Jason Pine: Sportstalk host on the All Blacks' overall 2025 season

The All Blacks will review their campaign in the coming weeks as they take stock of a mixed year.

The side are heading home in groups as they contemplate a 10-win, three-loss record.

Those losses include a record demise to South Africa, a first defeat in Argentina and the disintegration of Grand Slam hopes to England.

Sportstalk host Jason Pine recapped the action.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jason Pine Sports Talk Coasters with me. Hello Piney, Hello Heather. Okay,
rate the All Blacks year for me, and let's do
it out of five?

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Okay, what we should do with if I go three, two,
one and we both give our mark out of five?

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Okay, out of five?

Speaker 2 (00:14):
What about out of ten? What about out of ten?
Our mark out of ten? Go? Okay, So three to
one sucks pretty close. You're a tough marker. Yeah, I'm
giving them just I'm giving them the extra mark because
ten out of thirteen is a record that a lot
of Tier one nations would love. But I think there
are still a lot of unanswered questions, as your five

(00:36):
out of ten suggests. You know, no Rugby Championship, no
Grand Slam. Yes, they kept the Bletter Slow Cup and
that was that was good. But we're talking about Australian
side who is still.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The problems that are plaguing them at the end of
this year that we're plaguing them at the start of
last year, massive deficits in terms of losses.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
That those third quarter blues are crazy, hey, like not
being out of score score points or for stopped conceding
them the twenty minutes after halftime. Look a year from now,
after this massive tour of South Africa with what three
tests over there plus the one of the neutral location,
If we're ten from thirteen back in the next year,
that's probably not too bad, considering four of them are
against a terrific South African side. But will we get there?

(01:17):
That's the thing?

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Is it? The actual is it? Is it the number
of I think looking at the number of tests that
you win is kind of not the right metric. I
think it's the quality of the game that's being played, right,
You see the problems there?

Speaker 2 (01:31):
Yeah, great point because we beat France and three tests
at the start of July or into July, and none
of the three were really great performances. But there are
three wins there. Whereas you look at the win over
South Africa and Auckland, that was a terrific performance that night,
but they have been a bit few and far between.
So yeah, I think we leave twenty twenty five in
an all black sense, with a sense of not really

(01:52):
being sure if the improvement has been enough for us
to feel confident about the World Cup in two years time.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
So Piney on Friday surprised to read in Gregor and
you and I talked about Gregor Paul's piece, but what
I didn't talk to you about was the fact that
Scott Raiser Robinson is actually not the head coach in
the way that we would consider a traditional head coach.
He's a culture coach. He's a manager type figure, right,
And is it Scott Hanson who's the actual head coach.
That's surprising to me.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
It is surprising to me too, and I think that
might be one change they have to make. They have
to get razorback on the grass as a hands on coach,
because I think that's how he was initially anyway, and
maybe later in this time at the Crusaders he moved
into more of this sort of overseeing role. But he
was initially a very good on the grass rugby coach.
And with Jason Holland leaving now, I don't think they'll
replace him. I think they'll just, you know, give all

(02:40):
the responsibilities out quite a bit to Scott Robinson. After all,
he's the head coach. He's the one who lives and
dies by the results of the team. If I'm him,
I want to have my hands dirty within that team.
So is it.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
Possible that actually that may go some way to explaining
why we looked at the Crusaders and they were just
absolutely brilliant, and then Scott Raiser Robertson moves to the
All Blacks and they're not brilliant because he's not the coach.
Because when we're looking at the team, this is not
a Scott, this is not a razor team, this is
a handsome team.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Well, I think also the fact that coaching at super
rugby level allows you to be a man manager because
you have your team with you the whole time, right,
You've got five or six months together with them. That
is enough time. It's like, you know, that's being in
a workplace with them All Blacks. It's like they come
in and out. He doesn't have a long time with them.
So building that culture being a great man manager is
a lot more difficult at All Blacks level than Crusader's level.

Speaker 1 (03:32):
Now, what happened to England? I mean two days not
the hell.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Imagine if you had tickets for day three, if you're
all set for your day at the cricket and there's
no cricket. This is astonishing, reader. I think guys have
just forgotten how to bat. You know, they love the
t twenty. They smack it around everywhere, and they get
to the white white clothing on the red ball, they
forget how to play. So yeah, like crazy, but yeah,
good entertainment, I guess, But yeah no, you wouldn't want
tickets to Day three.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Brilliant. Hey, thank you, Pioneers, always appreciated. Jason Pines Sports
Store Coast.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
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