Full Show Podcast: 11 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Pressing the newsmakers to get the real story. It's Ryan
Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drey with one New Zealand
coverage like no one else said, Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Seven after for Simeon Brown and why he doesn't smoke,
drink or eat. KFC a US immigration lawyer on Trump's
new rules for Kiwi terrorists, Jetstar and its baggage, Murray
Olds and Australia and the Brady in the UK, and
we have plans for local water done well. We also
have the bill, and you're not going to like the bill.
Bryan Bridge nine the number to text. Donald Trump has

(00:36):
every writer, as every president does, to crack down on
the American border. There are problems there that we down
here in safe little old New Zealand just do not understand.
Illegal migration sounds to us like a far away and
non threatening concept, because well it is. Thank you, ocean.
If you believe everything that the liberal international media serves

(00:57):
up on a silver platter for you, and that this
is an issue invented by tyrants like Trump to retain
their grip on power, explain Starmer, the lovely lefty Labour
leader of Great Britain. In case you missed it. Starmer
this week has signed a piece of paper asking Europe
to kindly redefine human rights because the current definition is

(01:19):
well a little too generous, thank you very much. Yes,
Labour's man at number ten wants to narrow human rights.
He wants to be able to kick more asylum seekers
out of Britain because the cost, the burden, the daily
arrivals of boats simply unsustainable and the British public had
enough of it ages ago. Enter Farage right. So this

(01:41):
is not a figment of a dictator's imagination, but a
genuine political problem. Back to Trump, He's cracking down at
the border friend or foe, and new rules are coming
for us Keiweks and other visa waiver countries. These apply
to tourists, so a visit to Hawaii is all it's
going to take for you. In order to gain entry,

(02:03):
you will have to hand over five years of your
social media activity. It's mandatory, by the way. You're going
to have to do this, this is their intention. You'll
need to supply your telephone numbers for every phone number
you've used in the past five years. Can you even
remember every email address that you have used for the
past decade. How many jobs have you had in that time?
How many work email addresses have you had in that time?

(02:26):
Can you remember them all? Now? I'm no terrorist, but
this sounds like a lot, doesn't it. So I probably
won't be visiting America anytime soon. If you had to
go for a funeral, if you had to go for
an event, something important, you would. But to be honest,
I'd probably, on balance just go to Mexico, Ryan Bridge,

(02:47):
You're trying to get over a bureaucratic wall to the
United States. Just sounds too hard basket to me. Nine
minutes after four, let's go now to hemp the Regulation Ministry.
David Seymour's on the charge here. Regulation Ministry cutting red
tape for hemp growers. Growers will need to notify MPI
and police, but will no longer need a license to

(03:08):
grow and handle it for legal purposes. The change is
expected to bring in an extra forty million bucks in
the first two decades. Brad Lakes, co founder of The Brothers,
Green with me this afternoon. Hey Brad, Hi, Ryan, good
to have you on the show. What are you doing
with hemp? Brad?

Speaker 3 (03:23):
We are basically taking the raw seed and we've got
a factory here in christ Church and also over in Sydney,
and basically we take that raw seed right through to
a range of retail health supplements, mainly focusing on joint
health and sleep right.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
And so what are the regulations that have been cut
that will benefit you? Well, how are they strangling you
at the moment?

Speaker 3 (03:49):
Well, I think, first of all, really you know the
fact that the regulations sit under the Ministry of Health
and the way they're sort of being viewed. I think
even with this licensing, it's still sitting under the Ministry
of Health, it's still lumps it alongside that, like I
guess that cannabis regulation. This just really means, as far

(04:10):
as I can sort of read into it, is that
we're not going to need to do I guess a
lot of the administration work that's required of recording seed
coming in and out of the factory and also for
our growers are just not going to have the requirement
each year to be submitting their documentation. And I think
listening to David today, it meant that also it doesn't
matter where it's growing around New Zealand. So from that perspective,

(04:33):
it now means there's a lot more area, probably a
lot closer to residential, you know, because previously couldn't grow
out any farms, schools, or had to be like basically
blocked by a broad maze or something like that if
it was on a public road or so, just all
those little things that I think will just make generally easier.
But it's it's probably don't need mean to sound ungrateful,

(04:57):
but it probably not as impactful I could think at
the commercial end as some other changes could be.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
What's the big deal? Why is everyone so worried about him?
Is it because it just sort of looks a little
bit like weed? Because you can't get high off him,
can you? So what's the problem?

Speaker 4 (05:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:12):
No, And then I mean most people have probably driven
past the crop and you wouldn't even you wouldn't even
think it was him. I mean most people don't have
probably never even seen a cannabis plant in their life
other than a photo. So I mean it doesn't look
anything really like you know, what you'd think of marijuana
plant looks like in a crop. It just sort of
looks like a normal crop probably, So yeah, And I

(05:34):
think I think what we sort of dealing with is,
you know, these a regulations put in place a long
time ago that we're based on, you know, heavy industry
suggestions and you know, basically a perception on cannabis and
particularly him, that it was the same as marijuana and

(05:55):
should have been treated the same. So I think we're
still probably a long way from where I think heap
should be, which should just be treated exactly like wheat.
It should be with sitting with MPI and every part
of that plant as long as it's obviously sits underneath
that THHC level of one percent should be available for
anyone to use, just like a wheat crop is available
for anyone can do whatever they want with a wheat crop.

Speaker 2 (06:17):
Can you sell the seeds? Are you going to sell
the seeds?

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Well, I think it would be interesting to see what
comes out of what the final law states. But the
fact you don't like the licensing, as far as I
can see, is the only thing holding would be the
only thing that would stop us from selling seed to anyone,
because you had to sell it to a license, like
someone with a hemp license. But I'm pretty excited because
it could mean that we could just be selling seeds

(06:43):
directly to anyone around New Zealand.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
On the website, right, well, and what would people do
with seeds? Go their own hemp at home and then
do well.

Speaker 3 (06:49):
Well, they could do yeah, they could just grow their
own like I think, and dott Oh, I mean, you
could get the seeds yourself. I think people you know,
the tea people making teas with the leaves. There's like yeah,
I think. I mean, I guess at a commercial level,
we obviously need like quite a bit to do whatever.
But I think just even the novelty of people being

(07:09):
able to grow hemp in their backyard, to me sounds
like a I don't know, quite a cool gardening gardening
feature exercise.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
Brad Preuth, appreciate you, Sarian, thanks for being on the show.
Brad Bradlake, co founder of The Brothers Green, talking about
the deregulation of the hemp industry. I'm not going to
stay a huge amount of money. I think it's forty
million dollars over several years, sorry, over several decades. Forty
million over several decades. But I suppose you're going to
start somewhere and it's not a massive industry to begin with,
is it. There you go. David Simol's latest endeavor fourteen

(07:41):
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Speaker 4 (07:45):
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Speaker 1 (07:48):
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Speaker 2 (07:52):
News Talks B. It is seventeen minutes after four. Ryan,
my wife went to the States and Mexico in September
and part of the entry v he's required us to
put our social media feed URLs into the visa application
for them to check this is the thing and are
they going to We're going to speak to a US
immigration lawyer after five o'clock and the question I have
for him is is this Will they make you sign

(08:15):
into your social media accounts and show them the last
five years or is it just stuff that you've made public?
And if it's not public, are they going to make
you make it public so that they can then actually
check it? Otherwise, what's the point. They don't even know
what they're looking at. If you give them a closed,
private social media handle, it means nothing. So we'll ask

(08:35):
him after five eighteen after four.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Sport with tab bedlve with in play are eighteen They're.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Responsibly Darcy's here with us, Darcy, how things tracking at
the base and beautiful weather and I'm good.

Speaker 5 (08:45):
I think the stage a couple of years ago. I
just deleted all of my social media accounts.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
Be walked in there.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
It all is the savest thing to do.

Speaker 5 (08:52):
Criick at New Zealand tonit of nine to four, the
loss of five debutante Mitchell hay who I've often talked
up about being the future from New Zealand wicket keeping.

Speaker 6 (09:01):
On debut, he.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
Scored fifty seven. Lot of starts, but not a lot
of people carrying on. They lost a little bunch of
wickets very quickly. Conway's sixty, Williamson thirty seven, Mitchell twenty five.
Hayes looking like maybe getting it together.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
But that is that.

Speaker 5 (09:18):
And before we do that, let's talk about how I'm
going to play with the tab Remember eighteen bet responsibly.
I've got a couple of different angles on this one.
I've decided that multi's are the biggest fun I have
when it comes to going to the tob It's. It's
problematic because you're betting on so many different games at

(09:38):
the same time. But I'm looking either doing a big
multi around a whole lot of American sports. I'm not
sure about that one or the world Darce Championship starts
tomorrow morning, New Zealand time the PDC Darts Championship. So
if you look at the first round of the Darts
Championship and you look at a lot of the favorites,
I've got an eighteen leg hates. I won't go through

(10:01):
all the names, ten bucks on that could win thro
outed and sixty four dollars. So that's I'm looking for that.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Most well Now, staying in Wellington, Jason Holland returns to
the Hurricanes.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
He does it says a lot about the culture of
the All Blacks. That's all I can glean from that.
When you've got a guy who's rugby mad, played the game,
coach the game. He was the head coach of the Hurricanes,
got to the top of the tree, which is the
assistant coach of the All Blacks, there's one step away.
Lasted a couple of years. I mean, you know what
this is not for me. He's gone back. He's obviously
not say a rugby because he's assistant coach back and

(10:33):
when into the Hurricane, so he's like that to me.
Says a lot about the culture. But then midway through
Razers four year season, so what they've got my favorite
most hated word in sport. They've got to look at
the learnings and they've got to find out what happened
with the review.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
Well, before you go, you've got former IC and S
boss on your show tonight.

Speaker 5 (10:51):
Yeah, I do. The head of the ICC, the chair
of the ICC for four years, Greg Barkley, who says
to rule the roost over here in New Zealand before
he took that roll up. We're going to talk to
him about what next for short form cricket in New
Zealand because there's a lot of ruckers going on about
what you well know about what happens to the super
smash stay the same, they advanced a little more, they

(11:13):
go to the big bass. So they open up this
new apparent rebel leg So I thought, if there's a
roll out there he's got a rough idea about the
strange comings and goings of world cricket, it should be
the guy who sat at the chair at the ICC
for four years, right right, So he joins us tonight.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Brilliant Darcy then, thank you, that's Darcy with Sports. It
is twenty after four News Talks The b Ryan. When
I applied for a new Esta. This is how you
get your tourist visa in America in August. The social
media disclosure was optional, Yes, it would have been. But
what they've come out today and said is that they
want to make it mandatory. So it's not mandatory yet,
but they want to make it mandatory anyway. Well, more

(11:48):
questions for the lawyer. We got on after five News Talks.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
The be digging deeper into the d's headlines. It's Ryan
Bridge on hither duple c Ellen Tree with one New
Zealand coverage like no one else News TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Four twenty four on News TALKSB. So the councils, you know,
with the local water done well, which is the National
Party's answer to three Waters which is now gone ski.
So the councils have had to submit their plans basically
show their working organize themselves. How are you actually going
to deliver this? And so they have done that. That
step has been taken. Local government Missus Simon Watts puts

(12:23):
out a statement today. He says all plans have now
been signed off. Forty four councils are handing over the
responsibility to a separate company, to a CCO like we
have here in Auckland like you have in other parts
of the country too. And the cost estimate this is
from initially the councils when they got together they decided, oh,
this is what we think the water will cost us

(12:45):
the assets and from that point to this point the
cost is ballooned by nine billion dollars, which is not
an insignificant number, is it nine billion dollars? The total
estimated investment across you know, decades is close to fifty billion,
so a nine billion increase is pretty significant. However, the

(13:06):
Minister is arguing that this is because the councils are
now required to ensure that the capital investment that they
are making is sufficient to achieve compliance. So what exactly
does that mean, Well we'll ask minister Watts. We should
ask mister Watts after six o'clock this evening.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Ryan Bridge.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
Now to this debate between Nicola and Ruth, which I'm
told joke us to the raid here, it's all getting
a bit silly. So today Flurfit Simons from the PSA
comes out and she's saying that this is a right
wing stunt. She even called it a read what is it?

(13:45):
A false flag event? Like this is getting bizarre. It's
getting ridiculous. And then Nichola Willis comes out and says
this when asked a question about clerfit simons have a listen.

Speaker 7 (13:57):
Pounds to the left of link joke us to the right.
I'm stuck in the middle. And that's where New Zealand
is too.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Later, the whole thing has become fascical. It was interesting yesterday.
Today it's fascical. Apparently it's going to happen next week.
It'll be moderated by the spin off, it'll be open
for all media to broadcast. I just thought it was
like a bit of a fun Christmas debate, you know,

(14:29):
a bit of a nap started with a chocolate fudge,
you know, let's have a bit of fun before Christmas,
and it's sort of morphed into this quite dramatic school
end of the year production. Nichola Willis's office saying we
want all media to be in attendant, like it's the
most important political debate this country's ever seen. It's not

(14:49):
going to be there, but we'll still we'll still pay attention,
we'll still bring you whatever happens next week. Comes after
the roofs of the half yearly Economic Update of course,
so there you go. It will happen. It won't happen
on this show. I can tell you that much. You're
on News Talks. There'd be coming up to or thirty
new Sport Weather. Then we're over to Murray Olds in Australia.

Speaker 8 (15:12):
Thanks on that.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Today's Newsmakers talk to Ryan first, Ryan Bridge on Hither
dupilusy Ellen Drive with one New Zealand and the power
of Satellite Mobile News Talks d Bay from.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Five News Talks. It'd be great to have your company.
We'll get to Simmy and Brown on the councer Cancer
out Look. I should say after five o'clock we'll get
to Murray Olds out of Australia very shortly. You know
Elon Musk, richest man in the world. You know him
with eight hundred billion New Zealand dollars. Just let that
sink in for a second. Next year he could double
that number and not through the Tesla. I know you're

(16:08):
thinking about the Tesla performance targets that they have set.
There are longer term slower burn type thing. This is
from SpaceX going public in twenty twenty six. They are
prepping for an IPO and seeking to raise reportedly thirty
billion dollars from that. Now Elon Musk's steak in SpaceX
is two hundred and thirty billion dollars. This is Bloomberg

(16:29):
reporting the numbers on this today. So his steak is
two hundred and thirty billion New Zealand that would be
worth more than a trillion dollars if they float this
and things go well. Now his overall fortune that would
grow to one point six trillion dollars next year. He
would be the world's first trillionaire. Now, this depends on

(16:51):
a whole bunch of stuff. Obviously, depends on where the
markets are, depends on what happens with the price, and
the number that they would need to get would have
to at least match or be better than this Saudia
Ramco Ipo from twenty nineteen. You'll remember that because it
was the biggest and still is the biggest. Their revenue
was three hundred and sixty billion dollars. SpaceX's revenue is

(17:12):
currently fifteen billion dollars. So this is the thing, and
this is all these companies in America that there's share price.
The darlings go through the roof and you're thinking, but
hang on, look at the earnings. However, then you think
about the how much oil is under the ground, and
how that is very much of the past, and then

(17:32):
you think about what's going on in space that is
very much of the future, and that is where the
value lies. So next year we could have our first
trillionaire and we could see Elon Musk's net wealth double.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
It's the world wires on news talks, they'd be drive.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
Tuesday, eleventh of December, Trumps that ordered a bunch of
soldiers and trumpers to board a Venezuelan oil tanker.

Speaker 9 (17:54):
As you probably know.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
We've just cheese e tanker coast of Venezuela large tank
and very large.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Largest whatever sees a shot.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Apparently it was helping terrorists now staying in the US.
The Fed's cut interestrates for the third time in a row.
Inflation on the rise, though Pal says this is probably
the last cup for a while.

Speaker 10 (18:17):
Having reduced to our past he read by seventy five
basis points since September and one hundred and seventy five
basis points since last September.

Speaker 11 (18:25):
The fed friend's read is now within.

Speaker 10 (18:27):
A broad range of estimates of its neutral value, and
we are well positioned to weak to see how the
economy evolves.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
And finally, King Jack.

Speaker 4 (18:35):
I'm going to show you how eat a Oreo.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
Sugar free Oreo cookies are on the way. It's iconic
American chocolate biscuit brand. If you haven't heard of it,
launching a zero sugar product next month. Contains artificial sweetness.
Does anyone believe that you can eat sugar free things
for them to taste nice and for you to not
get fat? Simple rule in life. If it tastes good,
it's bad for you.

Speaker 1 (18:58):
International corresponds with Ends and Eye Insurance, Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Murray Olds out of Australia. Murray, Good afternoon, Murray, you're there,
Good afternoon.

Speaker 12 (19:13):
Yeah, Hi there, Ryan, Good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Now you've a former pilot who was convicted of murdering
an elderly woman. He's had the conviction overturned. What's happening here, Well, this.

Speaker 12 (19:23):
Is a very celebrated case over here. Twenty twenty, there
were two There was a couple, apparently they were lovers
and they were camping together unbeknownst to their families. They
were camping up in the high country of Victoria, and
they're out in the books with their tent and their
campvan and so on, and along comes a guy called

(19:44):
greg Lynn. One thing led to another and the other.
The two older people die, the man and the woman.
Now Greg Lynn tracked down by police and he went
to trial a qu of murdering both of the people.
He was found guilty after a seven day jury deliberation.

(20:06):
They found him guilty of murdering the woman she was
aged seventy three, and not guilty. He was clear of
murdering her partner seventy four. Now he denied the charge.
He said both of the people died accidentally and he
had panicked. He'd panicked after their argument. They both died accidentally,
and he put the bodies into the back of his trailer,

(20:27):
hit their remains in the bush before returning later, and
he hurt them. Now you know, you'd think, okay, we've
got your bank to rights. But he went to the
Court of Appeal, which is the highest court in Victoria,
and the three justices agreed there were serious irregularities in
the trial that could not be remedied, and in fact
the conduct of the trial, the way the prosecution conducted itself,

(20:50):
may have resulted in the very serious injustice, so those
that murder conviction has been quashed and now he's back
and court in the new year. Yes, as trial again,
the new trial ordered, but it is very celebrated case
of Victoria. More twists to come.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Now, it sounds very twisty. Now the social media history
thing with the US. If you're a tourist and you
want to go over there, how are the Aussies taking it?

Speaker 12 (21:16):
Well, it hasn't really come bursting of the surface yet,
but suffice to say more than a million Aussies went
to the United States last year. Almost all of them
used this visa waiver program that allows us New Zealand,
Britain and a bunch of countries about forty countries to
go to the US for ninety days without needing a visa,

(21:38):
which is expensive and which is bloody time consuming. So
as I mean this, it's just burst on Australia overnight,
the same as New Zealand that okay, you have to
go back. We're my notes here, Okay, here we go.
Authorities in the United States have planning to collect very
detailed information, including five years of telephone numbers right, ten

(21:59):
years of email addresses who you've written to and you
know twenty sixteen IP addresses metadata from photographs, biometrics, information
about your family members. I mean, it's just ridiculous. It
is so I'm not sure that the strangers are going
to be that happy with this, given that there are
so many who go to the United States with a
second Trump presidency, I should say it's well down, about

(22:22):
six percent down in terms of travel to the United
States this year by assies. So look, it remains to
be seen. But what a pain in the backside to
try and do this, just to go to the land
where you can get shot by a bloke who's eighteen.
You can buy a gun from Walmart, but he can't
get it be Italy twenty one. That makes sense, doesn't.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Yeah, muz, I think that's the point. And it's going
to be too hard basket if you if you have
to go there your work conference or I don't know, funeral, fine,
But if you're tossing up between London, New York London.

Speaker 12 (22:52):
You know about Italy.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
I love Italy.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It is lovely very quickly on social media, has your
band going right?

Speaker 13 (23:00):
Twenty four hours in and a lot of young people
are saying, oh, albow, get up my page, Get out
that elbow for his point, saying, listen, this is a
very tough decision, but it's necessary. He gave us some
quotes this morning. Seventy percent of the kids have been
exposed to harmful content online. One and three say their
most recent experience of cyber bullying occurred on a social

(23:21):
media platform. Three in five kids ryan say they've been
groomed online. Alban Easy says this is the new rule.
No way we're going back, and ninety nine nine pairents
are saying you, beauty.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Mark, appreciate your time. Marie Old's our Australia correspondent. It
is eighteen minutes away from five. I was driving to
work this morning actually, and I saw a bunch of
kids on a scooter, on of those lime scooters. And
it's always freaky watching them do this because they are
two on us or sometimes I've seen once seen three
on a single scooter and there were two on the

(23:56):
scooter and one of them fell off and he was
carrying a fishing rode And thought, actually, you know, that's
not something you probably want to complain about, because at
least they're out there doing something. You know, it might
be an electric scooter they might not be getting the
physical exercise, but they're out in the sunshine. They've got
a fishing rod. Who cares. They're better out than inside,

(24:16):
aren't they? Seventeen to five Barri Sooper.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Next the politics was centric credit, check your customers and
get payment certainty.

Speaker 2 (24:23):
It is fourteen minutes away from five Barry Soapers here
politics bears good afternoon afternoon own debates on next week
will be on next week.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Yeah. It's really interesting though why Nikola Willis is quite
keen on this debate because she is a debating champion.
She was at the Victoria University debating team when she
was studying there and took part in international competitions. She also,
in the run up to the two thousand and eight
election was working for John Key and she coached him

(24:54):
but also stood in as Helen Klass for debate. So look,
she's got plenty of experience and I really think that
Ruth Richison given her. She's been really pushing for it.
Today they gave Nichola Willis a five pm deadline to
agree to a debate next week. She said, anytime, any place,

(25:16):
take it or leave it, Minister, is.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
This getting fasticle?

Speaker 6 (25:20):
I love it? I think it's great. Are we watching?
So she of of course to remind your listeners Ruth
Richardson was the mother of all budgets. But she's also
the chair of the Taxpayers Union, which is out to
discredit Nichola Willis. Nicola Willis would argue, and I was
looking today at what she would be saying, Probably last year,

(25:42):
debt as a percentage of GDP remained level for the
first time, she would say in six years, spending as
a percentage of GDP foul. As she said, their physical
policy is to return the books to surplus and bend
the debt curved down. Well, that's what you'll be saying,
no doubt, promoting that next week. So that is her argument.

(26:04):
But she's more than happy to have Ruth Richardson debate
it with her.

Speaker 7 (26:08):
She's looking in the shadows behind this campaign and what
she needs to desfront up. She needs to put her
face to the arguments. She needs to have the debate
with me. But what I want is a straight up,
honest debate to really analyze some of the claims that
she and her associates are making, to argue about actually
what the impact of some of the things that she
is calling for would be on everyday New Zealanders and

(26:30):
their families to test what her tolerance for human misery is.

Speaker 6 (26:35):
See so you can see what the way this is
going to shape harp and one is going to be kind,
the other is cruel. The cruel one is Ruth Richardson.
And I was messaging Nikola Willis today and she said
she's so keen on doing it next week, and she'll
do it on Thursday after the half year fiscal update.

(26:57):
Now you know that could not be that great for
the government.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Nevertheless, she'll push again, Yes, exactly great for Ruth. And
there was talk she wanted to push the debate out
till next year. I said to you, I said, this
is getting ridiculous, honestly that no one's that interesting like it.
Don't get me wrong, it's interesting. I will be watching.

Speaker 6 (27:17):
Yes, of course we.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Are tragic, but I mean it's not. And also PM
wants a clear runway for it, you know, don't kick
the year off. Doesn't want Ruth and Nickler going hammer
and tongs. No, anyway, what's happening in the Parliament.

Speaker 6 (27:31):
Well, the Electoral Changes Bill, it's before the House under
urgency that basically it sets a much earlier deadline for
enrolling to vote thirteen days before the election next year,
and also disqualified disqualifies all sentenced prisoners. Before the Labor

(27:51):
Party introduced three years, if you're three years in under
in prison, you could vote. Well, this bill will do
away with that. The Maldi Party's new MP your one,
your mate. She hasn't been expelled yet, incidentally, or any.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
One of the few left.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
That's right, that's right. She didn't make much headway with
her argument in Parliament this afternoon that it's unfair to
make people in roll thirteen days before the election, and
she was also upset that prisoners will be prevented from voting.

Speaker 14 (28:24):
Does the Minister dispute evidence that shows that to nying
prisoners the right to vote undermines rehabilitation goals, increases social
exclusion and ultimately increases the risk of offending.

Speaker 15 (28:37):
Well, of course, I tend to think more about the
needs of the victims of crime. Currently, it is the
law that if you're in prison for three years or more,
you lose your vote, and we are extending that earlier,
and we think that's fully justified.

Speaker 9 (28:50):
David Simol does he believe that new Zealanders of all
races are equally capable of fulfilling this basic requirement.

Speaker 15 (28:57):
Yes, and I have always been troubled by a particular
party claiming that their voters are disadvantaged by any changes
which would imply that their voters are less capable than
other voters of getting themselves enrolled, which is a strange
way to talk about your voters.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
So with that already, didn't ask anymore interesting.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
You know, you say, she's my friend, and she is,
and she was, but I have I tell you what
tried to get her on the show a couple of times.
Very just silence.

Speaker 6 (29:25):
So much for friendship radio silence.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Normally when you go into politics, you're chomping at the
bit to talk.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Totally part of the marketing part. You never know whether
you're Arthur or Martha, or whether you've got a seat or.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
Not exactly and who's pulling the strings now very quickly
has new visa policy. This is paying dividends.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Well, it's just it's a good you know, to me,
it makes sense that if you've got a visa and
you come from China or the Pacific to visit Australia
and their visa requirements are quite strict. Then the new
visa requirement will to allow them to come on to
New Zealand without having to go through the paperwork. Again, well,

(30:06):
that's seen in the past month ten thousand people coming
into the country and we're going to see many, many more. Obviously,
the point that the Immigration Minister made was that the
strong interest in the South Island in particular for three
percent of Chinese and Pacific visitors are going to christ

(30:28):
Church and onto Queenstown. So it's a very good policy
of the.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
Absolutely why not just piggyback hole exactly, very good to
see your Barry Soaper Politics eight minutes to five News
Talk ZBB, Simmy and Brown. After five, by the way,
on this new cancer report out today, basically not more
of us will get cancer, but there will be a
lot more cancer in New Zealand, I'll explain that after five.

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Speaker 1 (31:30):
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Speaker 2 (31:37):
B jeez, we've been doing a lot of news five
minutes away from five on the Caribbean, on South America,
Central America, of Late Heaven. We thanks to Trump and
where he's facing putting his international eye is basically and
is going backyard at the moment. In Mexico, there was
a great story out of Mexico yesterday which was Shinbaum,

(31:57):
who's the president elected last year. You'll know her anyway,
Gang violence is a big problem in Mexico. Homicide rate,
it's been going up for years. Anyway, she comes out
and says, I've got the homicide rate down almost forty percent.
I know, incredible, A thirty seven percent reduction in daily killings.
They reckon fifty five per day in November. That is

(32:19):
down from eighty seven last September, which was the average
for that time period. Puts out a press release, you know,
has a press conference. Everybody's happy, and then actually they
come out and say, yes, the murders are down. But actually,
and here's the trick with statistics, people being disappeared has
gone up, so they may you know, people may be

(32:41):
still being killed, but they're just hiding the bodies better.
That's what the critics are saying. To Venezuela. The President,
Nicholas Maduro, has taken to singing when it comes to
diplomacy with America. He was at a rally when he
said to American citizens who are against the war, I
respond with a very famous song.

Speaker 9 (33:00):
Dong worry, be happy, Lola la la.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
Long worry be happy loa.

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Speaker 1 (33:34):
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Zealand and the power of satellite mobile news Talk Zippy.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Good Thanks seven half the Fire. The new report from
the Cancer Control Agency reckons the number of people diagnosed
in this country with cancer is going to double in
the next two decades. More than half of these cases,
more than half completely preventable if people would just eat healthier,
exercise more, stop drinking and put down the fags. Health Minister,

(34:03):
Simeon Brown is with me now evening, Minister good evening.
So in terms of the increase, is this because we're
going to have more people therefore we'll have more people
being diagnosed, or is the rate actually going to increase.

Speaker 18 (34:15):
So if you look at the incident's incident rate, it's
effectively that has flatlined over the last twenty years. If
you look at the report and actually slightly decreased. What
we've got, though, is we've got an aging population and
a growing population. So this increase in the number of
cancer diagnoses is primarily being driven by a growing elderly
population and also a growing population. That's what's driving the increase,

(34:39):
and that's why we have to continue to invest to
ensure that we have more access to cancer treatments, cancer medicines, diagnoses,
and all of the things that this report is highlighted.

Speaker 2 (34:48):
Right, So it's not like there's a whole bunch of
new scary cancers on the horizon around the corner.

Speaker 18 (34:53):
No, not at all. That's not what that report is saying.
Report is very clearly saying that as we have an
aging population in a growing popular there's going to be
more people getting More people are getting cancer, but the
actual incident rate isn't what's driving that increase. And so
as government, we're very focused on making sure expanding access
to cancer medicines, expanding access to testing, diagnoses, and all

(35:17):
of those treatments that are required so that people can
get that access that they need.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Half the cases are preventable smoking, eating badly, not exercising,
drinking booze, and yet we still do it.

Speaker 18 (35:30):
Well, look, at the end of the day, people make choices.
But I think what this report highlights is the impact
of people's choices, and people do need to take element
of personal responsibility, and so I think it does highlight
the importance of you know, of all of those factors
and the importance and moderation. But look, ultimately people people
do make choices in their day to day lives. So

(35:51):
I'm not here to judge people's individual choices, but it's
also really important that we do highlight that people are
aware of that and obviously they can then decisions as
to how they live their lives in order to live
a healthier life and to produce their own risk of
contracting cancer.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Do you have it? Do you personally think about do
you worry about getting cancer? I mean, you're not a
big drinker, a smoker, or you know you're not going
through CAFC drive through every second day, are you, Minister?

Speaker 18 (36:19):
No, not at all, not at all. But look, I mean,
as the Minister of Health, I've been in the role
now for you know, ten to eleven months. I must
say my own mortality is something I think a lot
more about them than I did in previous roles because
of obviously the topics. But look, cancer is a really
important issue for so many New Zealanders. Everyone knows someone

(36:39):
who's either been diagnosed with they've lost a loved one
or they maybe may going through that journey themselves. What's
important is the government is that we are really focused
on improving cancer outcomes. The report does highlight that we
are seeing improved outcomes here in New Zealand. Though we
have a lot more.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Work to do, we certainly do. Minister, appreciate your time tonight.
Thank you Seeing Brown. The Health Minister time is ten
after five. If you head into the US next year
for a holiday, you might have to give border officials
there your social media details first. So the Americans, the
White House wants people from visa waiver countries like ours
to disclose five years of social media history. This is

(37:19):
part of getting your STRA application. So it's just tourism.
You're not moving there, it's tourism. Brian Hunt is a
US immigration lawyer, formerly with Homeland Security. Brian, Hello, good day, Ryan,
Thanks for having me. Do they want in terms of
what they want from my social media account? Will they
want passwords? Or is this all just public page information?

Speaker 19 (37:43):
Well, what they're asking for is disclosure of the identifiers
for social media and it doesn't go into the kind
of detail to say whether the or looking for anything
anything that has passwords. But if we look at what's

(38:08):
been happening with social media at other US agencies. For example,
when students are applying for a student visa to come
to the United States, they're requiring disclosure of the social
media identifiers and that they make those accounts public so
they can go look at them if they choose to.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
So if my account right now, like an Instagram account
or a TikTok account, is private, they might ask that
it's made public so that they can search it.

Speaker 19 (38:42):
That's what I expect, And the reason the reason they
don't know the details is just to clarify. This is
a notice of an intent to collect this information. So
under US law, federal agencies that they have forms, and
this ester program is considered a form for purposes of

(39:07):
this law. But anytime an agency makes changes to a form,
they have to provide a notice and an ability for
anyone who wants to send in comments. So what published
today was their intent too within in sixty days or
more to begin this collection?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Brian, What do they look at? What are they looking for? Specifically?
I love isis or something?

Speaker 19 (39:33):
Presumably well, and this is another situation where we can
kind of look at the clues to predict what what
they're looking for. But what this announcement actually says is
simply that they're adding social media is a mandatory data

(39:53):
element on the collection. Now it does say in order
to comply with Executtive Order one for one six one.
And we know that there's two other agencies here, the
State Department and the US Citizenship and Immigration Services, who
are also implementing that same executive order and asking for

(40:16):
social media and they have given more details. So I think,
you know, at least I'm assuming they're going to follow
what the other agencies are doing when they collected more
social media information and it's under that same executive order, Bryant,
and with that go ahead.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
No, I just want to know, from your perspective generally
to people in New Zealand who might be thinking of
going to America, is it a dumb idea to write
negative things about Donald Trump?

Speaker 11 (40:49):
You know, it shouldn't be.

Speaker 19 (40:52):
I really don't expect that's going to be an issue.
What they say they're looking for is with the other
agencies of they're looking for is anti Semitic. They talk
about saying anti Semitic things on social media, but in
the same language. They use the word extremists and terrorists,

(41:18):
so I think they're looking for pretty extreme language when
it comes to anti Semitism. And then they also said
they're vetting for anti American activity. But if we look
at what they're looking for with anti semitism again, I
think they're looking for some pretty pretty extreme kind of

(41:40):
statements that involve terrorism or violence.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
All right, and so good to know, Brian. I really
appreciate your time tonight. Thank you. Brian Hunt. He's US
immigration lawyer formerly with Homeland Security. Times called to past five.
Now I've been talking about the cancer situation.

Speaker 19 (41:57):
So it is.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
The cancer pool came out just back to some brown
about it, and the number of people who will be
diagnosed with cancer in the next ten to twenty years
is going to go up, but mainly because we're getting older. Now.
Dick Van Dyke, who you will know from Mary Poppins.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Jim Jimmy Jim Jim Cherry us we bet as lucky
as lucky, come being Jim Jimminy, Jim Jimminy.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
To the titty Bang Bang as well. I mean, we'll
rap sheet as long as you're umed. He's come out
and done an interview. So he's turning one hundred on
December thirteen, So in a couple of days, he turns
one hundred, and he's doing interviews and he looks great
and he's talking. He's got all his marbles, everything's good.
And his secret, he says to getting to one hundred,

(42:40):
is getting rid of a couple of vices booze and cigarettes.
And so I thought I would share that with you
because it ties in quite nicely with the thing we're
talking about with cancer. But then you read further down.
This is a transcript transcript of his interview, and he says, yeah,
I smoked a lot, and he smoked well into his fifties.
So what is the lesson? What is the moral of

(43:02):
the story? Do you stop?

Speaker 6 (43:03):
You know?

Speaker 2 (43:05):
Is it just when you stop? The other thing about
him is he was an alcoholic, like full blown alcoholic,
and went to rehab in nineteen seventy two. So I
guess the moral of the story is you shouldn't drink
and you shouldn't smoke, But if you do, then you
need to quit, you know, you need to quit. Sort
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store to learn more. Ry and Bridge jet Star, what
have you done? Naughty? Naughty? Jet Star been pulled up
by mb for a couple of dodgy sets of scales
at Wellington Airport. These are the portable ones that you
put your bag on to see if you are under
the weight limit. Following a public complaint in September, Jetstar

(44:50):
were told to stop using these two particular sets of
scales because they failed to meet the legal accuracy requirements. Interesting,
Jessica Walker from Consumers will be now, hey, jess good evening,
right and this is naughty? How important is it that
it gets at scales right?

Speaker 20 (45:09):
They should definitely be right. There shouldn't be any question.
So under the Contumer Guarantees Act, the business needs to
execute its services of reasonable care and skill. In this instance,
that would mean when you buy your bags, they're going
to be weighed correctly. So yeah, they shouldn't be There
shouldn't be any concern when you wear your bags that
they're going to be massively out of whack.

Speaker 2 (45:28):
Are they missing? I mean? The airline says that the
scales would not have resulted in higher white readings. You know,
does it make it any better?

Speaker 20 (45:37):
That's this is something that's really surprised me. So I
understand this afternoon that jet Star statement has been that
was it that the wheel alignment was slightly off, but
the measurement or the weight of the bags would have
been correct. So that makes it really tricky for a consumer.
So if Envy's investigation is questioning the accuracy or saying
that that it was inaccurate, and our jet Star is

(45:59):
saying that the weight would have been correct, as the
consumer potentially stuck in the middle of this, it's a
really horrible situation to be in because who do you trust?

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Well? Isn't the message to consumers just if it's jit
Star then you need to be careful? And why are
your stuff at home?

Speaker 20 (46:16):
I think that's good advice regardless of who you're flying with.
So I reckon having an idea of the weight of
your bag before you get to the airport and certainly
before you get to the gate where you're almost at
the point of no return. That's in everybody's best interests.
I mean, having said that, I don't know how many
people have got scales at home. I know, for example,
that I certainly don't have, But I reckon when you

(46:36):
get to the airport and there are so many scales
around and about just chuck it on there and see
what it weighs out before you get to the gate,
and then find yourself in that situation we're going to
have to potentially pay out money.

Speaker 2 (46:48):
Is anyone going to get a refund for this? Do
you reckon?

Speaker 20 (46:52):
It's all going to come down to proving it. So
the fact that the end the investigation has found what
it has and that Jetstar has been directed to stop
using these scales for the time being, I think that
standard pretty good. Stead If you were to try and
make a claim, ideally would like jet Star to pay
people back if they've been reimbursed. If they can prove

(47:13):
that they were overcharged, then that would be ideal. But
the fact that Jetstar is saying that people won't overcharged
absolutely makes this trickier. So for people who feel really
strongly about this, and I understand a lot of people will,
then you can always go to the dispute tribunal. But
the thing with that is currently there's a non refundable
failing fee of sixty one dollars, So do you want
to throw more money at this that's the question.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
No you don't. It's the price of a jet Star fee.
To begin with, Jessica, thank you just could walk out.
Consumer in ZID time is twenty three minutes after five.
Now the earline for its part, this is what they
said about the scales they see. The two scales at
Wellington Airport had minor wheel misalignments that caused the scale
plates to sit unevenly. Very technical. This affected the stability

(47:59):
of the units, but not they're weighing accuracy, so in
other words, they might have looked a bit skill if
but it was weighing properly, so there was actually no
reading that was wrong, even though this one person complained
and it's gone to MB and mvy's given them a
bit of a warning. Anyway, they've thrown them out or
they're not using them anymore, these two particular scales at
Wellington Airport. But I don't know as a consumer. You know,

(48:21):
with Jetstar they're going to weigh your stuff, so you
should weigh it at home. And I was talking to Jessica,
since you didn't have scales at home, doesn't everyone have
a set of scales at home? No LRD is shaking
her head. And so you've got scales at home two
for years? I do, Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
I don't really like the numbers that come up on
them though, I think they might be faulty too.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Hence there's nothing to you.

Speaker 9 (48:41):
I mean, honestly, you get on the exactly, So why
does the scales say seventy five? I don't get it.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
You get on the scales and it would just be
a question mark, is you know? Is there anything there? No, Yeah,
everyone has scales at home, So just weigh your stuff
before you go to the airport. Quite easy. Twenty five
minutes after five News Talks MB can you.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
Trust to get the answers you need?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
It's Ryan Bridge on hither duplessy Ellen Drive with one
New Zealand coverage like no one else News Talks.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
It is five twenty seven. This whole Nicola roof debate
thing has very quickly become a little bit fascical, I think,
just a little over the top for this time of year.
It went from zero to ridiculous in twenty four hours.
It was a fight started, for goodness sakes, over some
chocolate fudge, some rather bad tasting chocolate fudge, might add,
and this debate I thought was just going to be

(49:31):
a bit of fun, but a Christmas fun, a bit
of a laugh, a couple of serious jabs about the deficit,
but sort of a bit of lighthearted banter between a
current and a former Minister of Finance. But interstage left
the rather dramatic debate organizing committee featuring Nikola Willis playing
herself as Nikola Willis and appearing in the debate as

(49:52):
Nikola Willis. First I heard that her office was telling
media it would be next year, which is outrageous because
no one's going to care about this next year. We've
got some of barbecues to get to. It's not like
you're delaying an all blacks test match, which people might
care more about. She said she wants all media broadcasting
the event invited, which is fair. It's good to be

(50:14):
fair to everybody, and I do like that about what
she's saying. But she is running around choreographing this thing
like mister g from Summer Heights High. Honestly, it's outrageous. Anyway,
I'll still be watching it's happening next week. I am
told it will be happening out of Wellington, happening out
of Parliament and everyone will have a chance to be
able to watch it somehow I'm not quite sure at

(50:34):
this point just how, but we will be there. We
will be watching. Did it need all the fuss? In
the meantime, raym Bridge. After five, I will get to
the panel the huddle, I should say very shortly. You're
on newstalks in'b.

Speaker 1 (51:03):
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Speaker 2 (51:15):
Beginning to look a lot like Smart twenty three away
from six year on News Talks MB for your Thursday evening.
Great to have your company. We'll get to the huddle
in just the second Big Stories of the day with
Bridget Morton and Allie Jones. And after six, well after six,
we'll talk more about the FED, because the FED has
come out today and they have cut by a quarter

(51:35):
of a percent. They're expected to do this. This is
over in the US, lowest level now in three years.
Over there the ranges three and a half to three
point seventy five percent. Hard job that they have got
on their hands because you've got jobs week, but you've
got prices rising. So this will probably be their final
it's their third and probably final cutting of the cycle.

(51:56):
We'll have more on the Business Hour after six this
evening bread staying in the US just for a second.
So the Trump administration has brought its war on DEI
to a kind of unexpected battlefront FOMPS, I know, sounds weird.
US diplomats switched from using Times New Roman to Calibri
under the Biden administration, and so now Marco Rubio comes out.

(52:20):
He says this was a wasteful diversity initiative and it's
told diplomats to switch back to using Times New Roman.
Alistair McCready is a typeface designer at Monolith and joins
me now, good evening, Sure how you doing very well?
Thank you, Alistair, thanks for being on the show. Did
the did the Biden administration do this for a particular reason?

(52:40):
Apparently it was something to do with people who've got
visual disabilities? Is that is that an actual thing?

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (52:47):
Certainly.

Speaker 21 (52:48):
Yeah. Typeface is a kind of a technology. I mean,
so it was lettering in type If you think of
any letter ever interpreted or read had to be created
in some way, shape or form. So yeaheople are always
pushing that industry further. And the font they chose to
switch to, Calibri outdates times in New Roman by about

(53:09):
I don't know, maybe seventy years, seventy five years or so.
So it's a lot more contemporary, a lot more clearer.
It was built for a different context, in a different time,
and therefore it's just it's more suited to, Yeah, a
wider range of I guess readers of different visual impairments.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
So if you're not visually impaired, is that is it
harder for those people to read it? Or is it
just you wouldn't notice.

Speaker 21 (53:36):
I think that's probably a bit relative to the individual.
I mean, there's all sorts of things that go into reading,
not just the way you see or how clearly you
can see. It's how you interpret letters and their shapes
and times in New Roman was created in the thirties
for a newspaper. It was meant to be printed, and
over the years it's been reconstructed in various forms, and

(53:56):
now it's what we know is digital. And now you've
got Calibri, which was created by Microsoft for Windows Vista.
It must have been early two thousands as part of
a group of typefaces they made and it kind of
became the default, actually replaced Times New Roman and Microsoft Word.
So you know for that big time gap that was
back in two thousand and say, two thousand and six. Yeah,

(54:18):
and now it's nowadays what we know is today. But
the reason they probably chose either or of the typefaces
just because there are most OS platforms now on computers worldwide.
You don't have to buy them and install them yourselves,
so they're very accessible elistair in.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
Terms of I mean, then the thirties Times New Roman
came about in terms of print, was that that was
everyone using Times New Roman or were there other ones
out there?

Speaker 11 (54:43):
There's there's a lot out there.

Speaker 21 (54:44):
There was an enormous industry, you know, huge factories casting
things physically, you know, they're called foundriies because they're literally
casted hot metal or carved wood, and it was it
was all printing. We didn't have screens, we didn't have
digital So Times New Roman called Times because it was
created for the Times newspaper in London specifically, and then

(55:06):
over the years it sort of evolved into what we
know of it now. So you know, you can imagine
they're two different fonts in regards to you know, times
New Roman has what we have serif versions. So serifs
are basically the little feet at the bottom of the letters,
and then you've got kaliviri, which is a Sands serif,
which just basically means without and they're a lot more contemporary, considered, cleaner,

(55:27):
more legible.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Yeah, what's your favorite alistair? What do you use?

Speaker 21 (55:33):
I draw my own, so I don't really Uh, you
pick your kids, you know.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
If you write an email, you use something that you've designed,
that you've come up with.

Speaker 21 (55:43):
Not specifically. So the fonts are essentially software. So you
have the typeface, which is a design, and then a
font is the software that drives that design. So the
fonts are what we have on our computers. And if
a computer doesn't have a font installed, then it won't
recognize it unless it's on say a.

Speaker 11 (55:58):
Website or something.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, first, notting elis.

Speaker 21 (56:01):
I can't send it in a font I want and
expect him to see it as well.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah, it's a bit of it. Ah, I'm with you.
I'm with you, very very okay, Alis, appreciate your time.
Alison mccredia, who's a typeface designer at Monolith. It is
eighteen minutes away from six The Huddle.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
With New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name you can
trust locally and.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Globally, joining me the sevening Bridget Morton, who is a
lawyer with Frank's Ogilvy and Ellie Jones read pr good evening, gay,
how I am a good thank you. Let's start with
a taxpayers Union fudge stunt, the false flag event if
that's what if you want to listen to the unions,
what do we think? Bridget has all gotten a bit
weird in my mind, but it's happening next week apparently.

Speaker 16 (56:41):
Yeah, I think it's a classic pre Christmas you know,
a bit of noise to go around. Of course, I'm
sort of in the middle of here, stuck in the
fudge Taxpas Union as a client of mine, whereas Nichola
Willis have been campaigned chair for the last couple of elections,
so you know, probably could have lined down the middle.
But I do think this budge stunt actually benefits them both,

(57:01):
you know, for the tax those Union, that's really talking
to their base about holding the government to account. And
what's been spend, debt levels and all of that sort
of thing, because they do want lower taxes, and for
Nicola Willis, it gives her a chance to sort of
differentiate herself from that mother ll budget which is not
going to be as tough as national wars in the nineties,
and allows her to sort of show them modern faith
of the national partting.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Yeah, I think yesterday I said it was a win win,
like she even if she loses, she wins because she
looks well, not as radical as with Richardson.

Speaker 22 (57:30):
Right, Ellie, Yeah, and also well, the only thing is
I want to start off by saying I.

Speaker 23 (57:35):
Don't have a conflict.

Speaker 22 (57:36):
I am feeling quite nauseous from having eaten several pieces
of Nicholas fudge, which arrived today from Jordan Williams. So
thank you for that.

Speaker 12 (57:45):
I listen.

Speaker 22 (57:45):
I hear what Bridget's saying, and I agree from a
political perspective, and she's far more qualified to talk on that.
I wanted to talk about the marketing. I think it's
absolutely outstanding. It's really witty, funny, clever. I mean, on
the lid of the box that says the aroma will
hit you first, a warm lend of heroic assumptions and
overconfidence whiped together with more debt and denial than ever before.

(58:09):
And I mean the whole thing. It's I think it's
a masterclass in marketing, and I'm really looking forward to it.

Speaker 12 (58:15):
I heard what you.

Speaker 22 (58:15):
Said earlier, Ryan, I love this stuff and I get
really sick and tired of she said, she said stuff
in the news, and it runs for two or three days,
and you never get a conversation where someone puts something
to someone, they respond to it, and then someone else
responds again. This means that they can actually have a
conversation and when one of them calls BS, the other

(58:36):
one can say why and this is how? And so
I'm really looking forward. I heard you say, you know,
you think it's a bit of BS, but I'll be watching.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
No exactly, but I think I'm What I mean by
that is it's about It might be more of a
Beltway thing, this particular debate than you might expect from
a you know, a labor on national one. But on
the I agree with you on the marketing. Fantastic marketing, Ellie,
and done because I haven't eaten any of the chocolate
myself yet. But I've saved all the whole thing, the box,

(59:05):
the whole kitten kaboodle, and I'm giving it to my
mother in law for Christmas because she loves politics. He's
really into this kind of thing, so I think she's
going to absolutely love it. Like it's quite well done
or the whole thing.

Speaker 22 (59:16):
It's absolutely stunning.

Speaker 12 (59:17):
We've seen a video.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
No, I didn't know it was a video.

Speaker 22 (59:21):
Yeah, there's an AI created video.

Speaker 16 (59:23):
Have you seen a Bridget Yeah, yeah I have.

Speaker 12 (59:27):
Do you have created?

Speaker 9 (59:28):
Probably anyway, but.

Speaker 22 (59:32):
No, I have a look because it's actually a bit scary,
the only thing I'll say about that. And with the videos,
we do need to talk about these issues seriously, and
I'd hate this to turn into a you know, a
sort of.

Speaker 16 (59:42):
A cat fight.

Speaker 22 (59:43):
Silly you know, the marketing and the fun of it
overwhelms some of the really serious issues.

Speaker 18 (59:48):
I hope that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Alien Bridge it back in the second on the Huddle.

Speaker 1 (59:53):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southby's International Realty, the only
truly global brand.

Speaker 2 (59:58):
Bridget more than Ellie Jones on the Huddle tonight, Hey,
how do we feel Bridge about going to the US
If you're going to have to hand over your social
media handle for the last five years, and apparently we
spoke to a lawyer. If your profile is currently private,
they might ask you to make it public so that
they can scan it what you've posted, and then you

(01:00:20):
can make it private again after that. Does it How
would you feel going to the US under those circumstances.

Speaker 16 (01:00:25):
Oh, it's completely off putting. I think a lot of
people wouldn't want to do that. I think it's not
just the fact of the privacy element and the concern
that you may have inevnently said something in the last
five years that they're going to take an issue with.
There's also just the mechanics of it. Most of us
when we travel want to have it as easy as possible.
If you think that you're going to be caught up
because somebody's going to be scrolling all the ways back,

(01:00:46):
you know, through your Instagram, was sitting in LA, it's
probably not going to go through the US, or you're
going to choose to go somewhere else. If you've got
to live in an amount of time for holiday, it
just seems completely ridiculous. And you look at the justification
for it is you know that there's been a foreign
person who you know, has called time in the USC
for with suddenly our social media accounts need to be

(01:01:08):
open to access. I just don't think that they're interested
in my tramping photo. That's complete other range.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
Yeah, I agree with you, but totally puts me off
the idea of even transitting through the Alliah.

Speaker 22 (01:01:19):
Well, if we wanted another reason, or even needed another
reason not to go to the US, this is it.
Surely I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean,
just the thought of it. It feels quite violating really,
And you know, I know people don't want to see
me singing karaoke at last year's Christmas party, but you know,
there's a lot of stuff in there about friends that
we've lost, and just a lot of really personal stuff.

(01:01:42):
I just think it's absolutely outrageous. Oh, I wouldn't go
to the States. Don't need to go to the States,
so certainly wouldn't. This is another reason.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you, right this cancer
diagnosis story. So over the next twenty years, we will
see a fifty percent increase in cancer diagnoses, and half
will be because of preventable, preventable cancers. I we're drinking
we're smoking, we're eating the wrong foods, bridget Do we

(01:02:09):
I mean we know this, Like people say, do we
need an education campaign? Do we need an education campaign?
Or do we already know what's bad for us? And
we do it anyway because that's just part of living well.

Speaker 16 (01:02:19):
I think there's an element of sort of self responsibility.
But if you actually look at some of those education
campaigns we've had previously, they have led to change. You know,
smoking rates are very very low compared to what they
used to be. Also, look at the beach this summer.
You know, every kid will be wearing a rash shirt.
Will we have a hat on? Have suns going on?
We've completely changed our attitude to sort of sun and

(01:02:41):
I think we are changing our attitudes and learning more
and more about you know, the difference is sometimes of
processed meats or you know, excess alcohol. I think those
things are changing, but they do require a bit of
cultural change, and so I don't think it's necessarily fair
to say that, you know, we all know this, we
do need sometimes those reminders to kind of go, is
this actually the right thing for you to do in

(01:03:02):
the long term, Ellie.

Speaker 22 (01:03:04):
I think it's a combination of things. I think, yes,
it's certainly self responsibility, but I think, as some of
the media coverage around this has said, prevention is the
key here, and in fact the story I was reading
says improved prevention efforts could see between eighty and fourteen
thousand fure cancer diagnoses each year. And I think the
other thing with prevention to remember is that prevention is

(01:03:25):
all about catching something.

Speaker 9 (01:03:27):
Early as well.

Speaker 22 (01:03:28):
You know, we've all heard the saying and an ounce
of prevention is worse. I think it's a pound of cure,
and we really need to shore up our frontline primary
health services. That's where this prevention and nipping these things
in the bud happens. So I agree that we've got
to be more responsible, but it's actually more than that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I appreciate you guys tonight. Thank you Bridget Morton, lawyer
at Frank's Ogilvy, and Ellie Jones from red PR on
the huddle. It is eight minutes away from six. We've
had loads of texts come in thank you, but nice
to have you both on the show. We had loads
of texts coming on the Jet Star situation and the
scales and how much does your bag weigh? Ryan it's
not about weighing. This is from James. I thought it

(01:04:08):
was an interesting one. Not about weighing at home. This
is the way you bags at home before you go
to the airport, or even at the airport. It's the
gate scales that are the issue. Even if every other
set up until now says it's underweight. If those say
it's over, you either pay a bunch of money or
you don't fly. I've been caught an arguments far too
often to ever trust them again. Back to in New

(01:04:30):
Zealand for me, says James. James. The thing is in
New Zealand's flights are so much more expensive than Jet Stars.
You'll probably better to get a jet Star flight and
then just add extra baggage, you know, if you're on
the if you're on the CUSP add extra baggage. Is
it that hard? I don't know. I don't understand. Like
they tell you very clearly that they are very strict

(01:04:51):
on this, and it's like timings. You know, you've got
to get there bang on time or early if it's
a Jet Star flight, because they've just closed the door
in your face. They don't really care. It's not that
kind of airline so I don't know. And also, why
are we so consumed with weighing bags when we don't
weigh people. I mean the difference in size between you know,

(01:05:13):
you get on a plane, you get on the bus,
you walk around the street. You can see it. Some
people are huge, some people aren't. And how do they
know how big? You know? They've got no idea how
big you are when you turn up, and yet they
want to charge you sixty dollars if you're half a
kilo over on your bag. Rubbish.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
It's the Heather Duper c Allen Drive Full Show podcast
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Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Four to six News talks It. Mike says Ryan, I
have an idea, what about a total weight allowance if
you're getting on a plane ninety kilos for you and
your bag. Well, we're getting a bit ridiculous now, aren't we.
Another person here says the Taxpayers Union never gets a
donation from me. Again, I'm not wasting money on fudge,

(01:05:58):
especially not for journal Chris. It's a good point. If
you are, I mean to be fair, it's meant to
be a stunt. It's a publicity stunt, and to get publicity,
you need to give the journalist something to talk about.
They've given the journal somebody to talk about. It's work,
hasn't it. Is that not a measure of success. You
could argue that they deserve more of your money. Chris, anyway,
you're on newspaper.

Speaker 9 (01:06:19):
Can I assure you that none of the fudge that
were sent to us went to waste? This is why
I'm having so many issues with the scales myself at
the leaven Ah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
There's a problem with you or with your gut. I
haven't eaten it yet. Is it good? I mean it
was fine, ungrateful, ungrateful for the state. Anyway. We'll talk
to Jamie McCAT host of the Country on the Fonterra Payout.

Speaker 24 (01:06:41):
Next where Business com meets Insight the Business Hour with

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Speaker 4 (01:07:07):
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Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
Talks at be.

Speaker 12 (01:07:12):
Good evening.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
It is seven after six. Great to have your company.
We'll get to end of Brady out of the UK
before seven o'clock. We'll get to Jamie mckaye, host of
the Country on Fonterra. They've had their annual meeting in
christ Church today. A bit of an outlook on the
milk supply both from here and also around the world.
And what does it mean for prices, What does it
mean importantly for that midpoint of the price range. First though,

(01:07:34):
this is an interesting one. This is about fractional leadership.
Have you heard of this? Chances are you probably haven't.
I didn't hear about this until for the first time
until yesterday. But a key we company that specializes in
this new way of company leadership has just landed a
pretty big contract with the Singapore government. The company is
called Fractional Directory. The CEO is Michelle Aubon and she

(01:07:57):
is with me now, good evening, Yes, hell, oh great
to have you on the show. Michelle. First of all,
you need to explain us, explain to us what fractional
leadership is.

Speaker 25 (01:08:07):
Absolutely, it's really something that before about six months ago,
most people were asking that constantly, and now we're starting
to hear it more and more. And what it really
is is it's just using a full time.

Speaker 16 (01:08:18):
Leader at a fraction of their capacity.

Speaker 25 (01:08:21):
So maybe that's two days a month, four days a week.
It's just more or less part time senior leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
Who are these people? Why are they part time? Why
aren't they full time jobs. And are we talking like
CEOs and CFOs stuff like that.

Speaker 25 (01:08:38):
Yeah, so the word part time gets a bit of
a bad rap, doesn't it. But the truth is is
that actually this is a completely different model. So what
happens is that we actually we've been watching this in
our directory over the last two years, and two years
ago there was forty three publicly operating people and that
has fourteen x in two years. And these are these

(01:08:59):
senior most kind of top executives in the company or
excuse me, the country who are untethering from the five
day work week and going back into companies you know
as one or a couple days a week and as
kind of senior leaders working just in their expertise is by.

Speaker 2 (01:09:16):
Not just consultants business consultants.

Speaker 25 (01:09:19):
Yeah, And the common question because everyone's familiar with consulting,
but the difference between consulting and fractional is that a
fractional leader is fully embedded. So I'll give you an example.
A company who's hired a fractional chief marketing officer. Everyone
understands the kind of outcomes you'd want, but a fractional

(01:09:41):
chief marketing officer pretty much does the same thing. It's
just almost like they're not in the company two days
a week, but there were really specific outcome that they
only need that kind of reduced time to hit. So
we're seeing this be really really effective, and it's not
just giving them advice and you know, throwing a PowerPoint

(01:10:01):
over the wall. It's actually being in with the leadership
team alongside them, and it's really amazing kind of the
effect that we're starting to see this have in New
Zealand and around the world.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
So what's the deal, Michelle, You've got with the Singapore government,
what are you actually doing for them?

Speaker 25 (01:10:18):
Yeah, so this sup poor government started to see a
bit of traction in this model as quite a lot
of senior leaders there are either approaching this as a
result of mass layoffs, people are going, I want to
work in a different model, and we're seeing some of
the top talent you know, no longer go back into
full time jobs but actually just emerge as fractional leaders.

(01:10:39):
And then the other thing that we're seeing, which is
our deal with the government, is we're seeing that when
four Singaporeans are actually going to be a retirement age
in ten years, and there's these senior leaders who have
these big playbooks that have kind of proven out their
expertise over their career, and they're going, how can I
still you know, be be relevant and be impactful in

(01:11:02):
a company without having to retire. And so the government
is basically piloting the model and we're helping them to
take fifteen companies through a full placement to actually show
the impact that fractional can make instead of have full
timely embedded in the company.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
Michelle, you're the CEO of the Fractional Directory. Are you
a fractional CEO? Are you like a full time CEO?
And is there not a contradiction if you are?

Speaker 25 (01:11:29):
Yeah, you know, it's actually it's a really relevant question
because I started as the fractional CEO of our startup
and then as we've moved into you know, out of
New Zealand and into other countries, we go one full time.
But it's true, you actually you can work in either.

Speaker 2 (01:11:47):
No fair enough, I didn't wasn't being serious, Michelle. Thank you.
Michelle Auborne with our CEO of the Fractional Directory. It's
eleven minutes.

Speaker 4 (01:11:54):
Lapter six Brian Bridge.

Speaker 2 (01:11:56):
Interesting, this is news out of out of Space and
NASA has lost contact with a spacecraft that has orbited
Mars from more than a decade. It's called the Maven,
and I've always wondered how they do the communications. Well,
the Maven apparently quite an important part of this. So
if you are communicating between Earth and a something that's
orbiting or going around the Red planet, then you would

(01:12:18):
usually do that communication through Maven. And so Maven's just
chugging along through space doing her thing, working fine before
it went behind Mars. Then it pops out the other
side radio silence, and they're not really sure why. So
they're trying to figure this out. Yeah, So basically when
they put the two Mars rovers up their curiosity and perseverance,

(01:12:40):
the Maven was the communication relay for NASA. So Maven's
gone gone quiet, gone dark. The good news is that
they do have two other spacecraft around Mars. They've got
Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter and they've got Mars Odyssey. Those were
launched in two thousand and one and two thousand and
five respectively, and they will do the communication relay, so

(01:13:01):
we can still communicate with things that are going around Mars,
even if Maven for the meantime is a bit quiet.
Jamie mckaiye hosted the Country on FONTIRA six thirteen.

Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
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iHeartRadio powered by Newstalk z EBB News Talk ZB.

Speaker 2 (01:13:19):
It is caught a past six Now after six thirty,
will speak to Simon Watt's local government minister. We basically
now have all of the councils coming in. Excuse me,
my microphone has just done a weird thing. We basically
now have all of the councils coming in and saying
this is our plan for water, local water done well
and we now also know how much it's likely to

(01:13:40):
cost us. So we'll talk to Simon Wat's about that.
It is sixteen halfter six.

Speaker 4 (01:13:46):
The Rural Report on Heather Duplessy Allen.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
Drive, Jamie McKay's with us host of the Country, Jamie
good Evening. Gooday, Ryan, So is a nine dollars milk
price on the cards for twenty five twenty six? What
do we think?

Speaker 23 (01:13:58):
Well, it's not I think or you really, Ryan, it's
probably what the experts think. And having just read and
reviewed the Rabobank Q four Global Dairy Quarterly Report, a
one sentence hit me right between the eyes. This was authored,
by the way, by Emma Higgins, who's their senior ag analyst.

(01:14:19):
She wrote, there is elevated risk that the farm gate
milk price moves lower across the course of the season,
which would mean that the final season payout lands around
the nine dollars per kilogram of milk solid mark. So
that's not a great number when we started the season
with a ten dollar fore cast. Of course, Fonterra has

(01:14:40):
since trimmed that to nine dollars fifty. But if it
gets down to nine dollars, well, you know, the margins
are getting a bit skinnier there. Because yesterday Dairy and
Z came out with their econ tracker, which is their
tool for working out how much it costs to produce milk,
and they're saying the break even price is eight fifty.
So you know, look, ten dollars is great. Nine dollars

(01:15:01):
fifty is okay. Nine dollars jury's out a wee bit
on that one. We've still got a long way to go.
But the reason all this has happened, Ryan, and this
is in the Global Dairy quarterly report as well, is
because of stunning. That's the word they've used stunning global
milk production growth across the second half of twenty twenty five.
Right around the world, the EU and E K and

(01:15:24):
UK should I say, have posted their strongest growth since
twenty seventeen. For the month of October, US milk flows
posted their fifth consecutive month of growth rates over three percent.
Here in New Zealand, we're tacking along at about three
point four percent ahead of where we were last year.

(01:15:44):
The Big Seven, that's the EU, the US, US, Australia, Brazil,
Argentina and Uruguay forecast to finish twenty twenty five up
two point two percent year on here. So the guts
of it all, Ryan, is, you know, the milk price
has gone up. People are around the world, especially in
places like the States where grain prices are low, have
just moved their production from feeding stuff to feeding other stuff,

(01:16:09):
basically dairy cows, and therein lies the.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Problem and then all the milk comes on tap. Now
our national lamb crop for the season is up a
bit on the previous.

Speaker 23 (01:16:21):
Yeah, this is sort of a this is a really
good news story, to be honest, Ryan. If you remember
back and you're far too young to remember, back to
the nineteen eighties. But when Rob Muldoon was in power
and we had farming subsidies on a national sheep flock
peaked at about over seventy million. Now we've got about

(01:16:41):
twenty three million, twenty three or twenty four million, so
we're well more than half. But the national lamb crop
is going to be nineteen point sixty six million according
to the Beef and Lamb New Zealand latest Lamb Crop Report.
That's up about two hundred thousand lambs on last season.
But the good news part of the story is a

(01:17:02):
the lambing percentage has improved a whole lot one hundred
and thirty one point one percent average across the country.
That's amazing when you consider some of the land that
they're farming on with these sheep sheep farms, and that's
off the back of one point nine percent reduction and
breeding you numbers. So the number of lambs processed is

(01:17:22):
probably going to be in line with last year, which
was down a million on the year before. And part
of the reason for that is even though we've got
more lambs, we're only going to process about the same amount.
That's because some of those lambs born are going to
be retained as you lambs to rebuild the breeding flock.
Global lamb supply remains constrained. They're supported by an expected

(01:17:45):
five point eight percent reduction and Australian lamb export availability
and continued low New Zealand supply. The guts of all
this is that farm gate prices are at historically high
levels and probably will remain there at least for this season.
Here's the final number for you, Ryan, Lamb is now
eleven dollars a kilo milk, or the milk price could

(01:18:10):
be as low as nine dollars a kilo. It's not
often that lamb exceedstary. It's a while since we've seen that,
So watch the space.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
Certainly will Jamie thank you for that. Jamie McKay, host
of the country. Here on News Talks, Hedb. It is
six twenty on your Thursday evening. Great to have your
company or get to some of your tech's next and
a bit of show biz.

Speaker 1 (01:18:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
That'd be twenty three after six, So the hero's got
a story from an OAA that they've done to police.
The police when they were looking for Tom Phillips set
up cameras in the bush to try and find and
try and catch them. And they were motion sensor cameras,
so if things moved, presumably you'd pick up a possum
or something, but obviously you'd pick up Tom Phillips and
the kids as well if they were in the bush

(01:19:02):
and on the move. So they twenty eight motion sensor
cameras in the bush. We know that much. They won't
tell us where they were because there's obviously ongoing investigation
and stuff like that going on, So those things we
don't know, but we do know there were cameras. We
do know they were motion sens and we do actually
know that they did pick up Tom and potentially the

(01:19:23):
kids at some point, but they just weren't in an
area where police could get too easily. So I suppose
you've got this footage, But what I mean, it's not
like you can send the troops the cavalry in and
swoop on them quick smart, So wasn't actually very effective
obviously in catching them. In fact, nothing they did was
very effective in catching them. At all until the fourth
year of it was it If we're being honest, twenty

(01:19:44):
four minutes after six.

Speaker 4 (01:19:46):
There's no business like show business.

Speaker 2 (01:19:49):
Fucking Rolling Stone magazine has crowned the best Australian and
New Zealand songs at the twenty first century so far,
settled on the best three hundred songs. G says, who
did this? Took them a while? This here is number three,
Walking on a Dream by Empire of the Sun. Came

(01:20:11):
out in two thousand and eight, and this is an
Australian band for those who aren't familiar, banger of the song.
Second spot also a banger. And are we going to
win any of these? It's going to be a full
Australian street Kylie Bano. This one came out all the
way back in two thousand and one. You'll know this one,

(01:20:33):
Rolling Stone says. Here's here she is serving sharpened club
beats that wouldn't have sounded out of place in a
German electro cup from the eighties, a style so ahead
of its time it seems futuristic now, and doesn't it?
Number one, the number one the top song of the
last quarter of a century from Australia and New Zealand

(01:20:56):
as us.

Speaker 20 (01:21:00):
Out that kind of loves just a for us, we
create a different kind of bout Let me be.

Speaker 19 (01:21:09):
So.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Lord's debut song came out in twenty thirteen, Rolling Stone
describing it as a zeitgeist grabbing history making hit. The
magazine says no other track has reshaped pop music quite
like Royals.

Speaker 8 (01:21:25):
I was cractical.

Speaker 17 (01:21:29):
We count our.

Speaker 4 (01:21:30):
Dollars on chain.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
To the party and there it is a twenty six
minutes up six So does that when we took out
number one ants, they might have got come for two
and three. I'm actually a little bit surprised by walking
on a dream by Empire of the Sun, to be
honest with you at number three, three hundred songs to
rank twenty first center. I suppose, yeah, maybe maybe we.

Speaker 9 (01:21:55):
Don't really who really likes it. It's a personal taste thing.
But I remember a Vice article from a few years
ago where they to people who were at an Empire
of the Sun set at a festival and just interviewed
them more on why on earth they were there, like.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
Just and what did they say?

Speaker 9 (01:22:07):
Well, they were all like, yeah, they're great advice. It's like, well,
are they like, are they really that good? Clearly very divisive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
Well, Rolling Stone would be the authority, wouldn't that both
they know what they're talking about. Twenty seven after six now,
Simon Watts, the local government minister.

Speaker 7 (01:22:20):
Next, you can call me creepy.

Speaker 2 (01:22:30):
Let me live that fantasy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:34):
Everything from SMEs to the big corporates, the Business Hour
with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance, your futures
in goodheads used talks.

Speaker 24 (01:22:44):
It'd be we could be last, last.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Nasty twenty five away from the talks. People get you
in the radio UK correspondent shortly. First though, the bills
in for all that water infrastructure that we need to
build so desperately, and it's nine billion dollars more expensive
than previously thought. Councils have now all submitted their local
water done Well plans to the government. They're expected to

(01:23:13):
spend forty eight billion dollars on water. Simon Watt, says
the local government minister, and joins me Tonight, good evening,
Minister Earding Ryan Seasons Gruden Season's greetings. So what's happening
with this? The extra nine billion than we thought? Is
that because something has changed or is the estimated cost change.

Speaker 26 (01:23:34):
No, it's basically the councils have done a review and
a forecast of what they believe they need to spend
over the next decade, and that is up on where
they before had their plans.

Speaker 11 (01:23:46):
Only it's going to be clear, this is what.

Speaker 26 (01:23:48):
They believe they need. Then you've got to work out
what their capacity is to actually undertake the work and
what they can spend and invest. But the highlight is
we've got an infrastructure deficit.

Speaker 11 (01:23:59):
We all know that we need to get more.

Speaker 26 (01:24:01):
Money going into pipes in the infrastructure and we've now
got entities that can deliver that change and over the
next decade that means more jobs for kiwis.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
So this is what they believe they will need. Can
they afford it?

Speaker 26 (01:24:14):
They can based on the assessment that the independent regulator,
the Commerce Commission have done. That process is now complete.
They reviewed all sixty eight of councils and with the
exception of one which has got a facilitator in place,
the rest have been signed off. So we're in a
really good spot. And you know that's pretty good within
in effect twelve months from when the legislation got passed.

Speaker 2 (01:24:35):
Is it cheaper them under what three waters would have
cost us?

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
Well?

Speaker 26 (01:24:39):
Ryan I mean, as you know, that's a hypothetical because
those guys got voted out and they never put that
policy into practice. We are of the view, compared to
the status quo, this is going to be a better
deal for rate payers. And why I say that is
because you know, we've got financially sustainable entities who are
going to be undertaking this infrastructure investment. It's a big

(01:25:00):
pot of money, right, No one's arguing about that. And
I think we do need to acknowledge the capacity of
the system, but I think what we need is consistent
and stable investment over decades, not that lumpiness. And you
know that's something that we're now.

Speaker 11 (01:25:13):
Set up to deliver.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Okay, so they can afford to do it. It means
a hell of a lot of money they can afford
to do it. That's been signed off. We're given them
the tick tick for that. When will people actually start
to see their pipes or not actually more to the point,
not see their pipes.

Speaker 5 (01:25:31):
Well, that work's already started.

Speaker 26 (01:25:32):
And if you're living in Auckland, for example, water care,
we're first out of the gates and are undertaking that work.
You know, at pace there's a lot of build up
of capability. We need more water engineers, we need more
people in that neck of the woods, and that's good
as well in terms of capability.

Speaker 6 (01:25:49):
But this work has already started.

Speaker 26 (01:25:51):
And you're really going to see the industry build up
to what I would expect peak delivery over the next
two to three years.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Two to three years. So like you know Wellington, we
see those stories every second week of pipes bursting and
water going all over the street and stuff. When will
that not happen well Ryn.

Speaker 26 (01:26:10):
You know, that's a challenging one because there's a lot
of pipes in Wellington. But what I can be clear
about is now they've got a stable entity to deliver
that infrastructure. It's been reviewed by the ComCom. So we're
getting out of the planning and these guys can start
doing the doing. And I think that's what rate payers
have been calling for. They want this stuff to get
on and be done. But you've got to acknowledge when
you build infrastructure, you've got to do that over a

(01:26:32):
long period of time, in consistent program to do that.
So that's underway now and that's going to be good
for our communities.

Speaker 2 (01:26:39):
How were you in the house today? Apparently it was
all getting but instead of that end of year rightist
thing seems to be seems to be coming into play
in the house. What was it like there tonight.

Speaker 26 (01:26:48):
Yeah, it's pretty pretty jovial and everyone's fired up. I mean,
I'm in the chair till when Parliament goes to midnight tonight,
and I've got my bills going through all stages, so
I'll be don't you when you're ake at midnight doing
whatever you do, you can think of me. I'll be
still sitting in a chair in Parliament doing the good
work for the.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Public I'm doing on this drive show at the moment,
So I'm happily. I will be happily sleeping tonight Simon,
while you're working, which would be a nice chair.

Speaker 26 (01:27:14):
I might give you a shout out at midnight.

Speaker 11 (01:27:15):
There you go, Okay, all.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
Right, hey, appreciate your time. That Simon Watt's Local government
minister is twenty one minutes away from seven News to Rainbridge.
We'll get to get end of Brady, who's our UK
correspondent in just a second. Do you really if you're
living in Wellington and you have seen the flood, you
know the streets flood, you've seen your been walking to
work and you've seen your morning's breakfast following you down

(01:27:38):
the street. Do you when do you realistically think that
will be fixed? Because, like he's right, Simon Whatt, it's
not going to happen overnight. But realistically, how long is
it going to take to fix one hundred year old
pipes that are not just in one street or two
streets or the city center, but everywhere in town. It's

(01:27:59):
going to be a lot to be whild, isn't it?
Like I think, because we've got the legislation passing, because
we've got the water done well thing happening, I think
there's probably an expectation that we click our fingers and
things will be done. But this is this is decades
of not investing. It's going to mean probably decades of
now investing and god knows how long before we actually

(01:28:20):
see our streets not flooding whenever there are pipe bursts.
Twenty to seven.

Speaker 1 (01:28:27):
Eff, it's to do with money. It matters to you.
The Business Hour with Ryan Bridge and Mass Motor Vehicle Insurance,
your futures in good hands. News talks 'B.

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Seventeen to seven. On News TALKSB, we were just talking
about infrastructure and water and all that stuff. And Gale
is sent in a really interesting text. Who's listening into
the program? Gale, good evening, Nice to have you listening.
I'm just driving through an area of west Auckland that
was hit hard by the floods of two or three
years ago. This is Gale's area. Every drain I walked past,
or drive past, I should say, is blocked with leaves.

(01:29:00):
I don't understand why the people who live in those
houses can't get out with a rubbish bag every now
and then and sweep up a few leaves, put them
in a bag. I keep our drains absolutely clear because
I don't want my house to flood. I just don't
understand why people think it's always somebody else's job. Gail,
great text, Thank you and good point. And I think

(01:29:22):
because we pay rates, because we pay such exorbitant amounts,
I think people just do it's someone else's it's the
council's job or problem. But you're right, before councils, what
did we have? We had each other? Didn't we we
had like communities, we would one, we would talk to
each other. People barely do that to their neighbors these days.

(01:29:42):
But also you would organize jobs. You are on Saturday.
We're all gonna get together and we're gonna do this.
We're gonna, you know, lay that concrete. We're gonna build
this road, We're gonna do something. We're gonna mow the berm,
mow the berm. Now it's everything is the council's problem
and the council's fault, and they do make a bit
of a rod for their own beck because when you

(01:30:03):
try and do something, they say no, you can't do
that because you'll get in trouble, and then there's health
and safety and someone's toe gets run over. Then you
know you'll go to jail. So there is that problem.
But the sentiment, gal I completely agree with, get out
there and do your own stuff. New Zealand quarter to seven,
Ryan Bridge getting in the Brady a UK correspondent. Good evening,

(01:30:25):
Good morning to you in.

Speaker 11 (01:30:26):
The well, said Ryan. Love that attitude.

Speaker 2 (01:30:29):
Now, the doctor's strike, this could all be called off
at the last minute.

Speaker 11 (01:30:34):
So yes, I think a combination of factors here, they're
reading the room. For a start, we've got this strain
of a so called superflu which is predicted to get
to a tidal wave level next week. It's bad. I
mean the government and medical leaders are saying to people that,
you know, if you're on public transports, if you're out
on the boat, start wearing face masks again. And I've

(01:30:55):
noticed this the last couple of weeks on the tube
in London. Initially I was thinking, okay, these visitors, and
then it was happening at six am when I was
on the tube sitting with Ukrainian builders going to work.
A lot of people are now wearing face masks because
they don't want to get this superflu before Christmas. So
junior doctors are unhappy about money again, pay and working

(01:31:16):
conditions and lack of training opportunities in the UK. They've
threatened a five day strike starting December seventeenth. So what's
that next Wednesday? For five days? And they've got the
government over a barrel. And what's happened now? I think
the combination of the superflu and the junior doctors basically
not having a huge amount of public support, the government

(01:31:38):
has reached out and just said let's talk. So there's
some sort of an offer in the pipeline. Will it
be enough to call off a strike at the last minute?

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
Let's see now, they're dropping like flyers from Eurovision. This
is a bit of a crisis for them. Now, which
country is the lightest to pull out?

Speaker 11 (01:31:55):
Iceland? So that is now five countries in the space
of forty eight hours have said they will not perform
next year in May at Eurovision if Israel is allowed
to participate. Now the organizers, the European Broadcasting Union, they
are adamant that Israel will be allowed to sing. And
what's happened now this week Ireland, Spain, Slovenia, the Netherlands

(01:32:18):
and now last night Iceland. Five countries have all come
out and said Okay, if they're in, we're out. And
I think it's just real anger over the impunity with
which Israel seems to be allowed to play soccer continuing
cultural events like Eurovision, despite seventy thousand civilians dead in
Gaza in two years. So all these countries are making

(01:32:40):
a stand, putting pressure on the organizers who are unflinching
so far.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Yeah, tell me about that. I love a good local
council local baro story in London in the UK more generally,
but this one in London, and it's a five hundred
thousand dollars rolls Royce on the pavement.

Speaker 11 (01:32:57):
Yes, so there is one of the plushes squares in
London if you want to buy a little property there,
and I'm talking not a massive one. Twelve million dollars
is the average starting price for a property on Grosvenor
Square in central London. So you can imagine the people
who can afford that kind of money. They want to
be able to walk the pavements without having to go
out into the road because someone from Saudi Arabia has

(01:33:20):
parked a half a million dollars Rolls Royce and if
you see pictures online of this vehicle, it doesn't it's
not a classy looking vehicle. It's just like a huge, big,
blocky chunk of metal blocking the pavement. So they've been
inundated with complaints from local residents saying we can't walk
on the pavement because of all these supercars everywhere. So

(01:33:42):
the council turned up with a tow truck and it's gone.
They realize that, you know, one hundred and twenty dollars
fine for illegal parking ain't gonna touch the sides. If
you can afford half a mil for a Rolls Royce
and you live in Saudi Arabia, so they forgot about
just basically thought, let's just not issue a fixed penalty
was on the windscreen here, just get the toll truck out.

(01:34:02):
So they're starting to move them. And funnily enough, this
morning we're hearing this Grosvenor Square and other parts of
Belgravia and really wealthy bits of central London there's no
illegal parking today.

Speaker 2 (01:34:15):
Great, well that's the out coming on. That's the counsel
I suppose doing its job. And thank you and Brady
a UK correspondent, eleven away from seven. Now some of
your texts on the working bee is the word yes,
thank you for that text. That's the word I was
searching for but couldn't quite grasp. This is on from
Gail who's in West Auckland, says people should just clear
their own drains. Why are you waiting for the council

(01:34:36):
to do it? Next time it rains the whole suburb
is going to flood again. Another says Ryan Gale is right.
Worse still, I saw a guy tipping his burm lawn
clippings into a drain. Cardinal sin Ryan about the leaves
and the drains. How about those people that blow all
of their leaves from their property into the road in
the first place, which end up in the drains. We

(01:34:57):
have these people on our lovely street and they're very annoying.
That's from Karen. Thank you, Karen Ryan. Our Residents Association
and Grafton regularly organizes drain and gut to clean up.
Some more communities should do the same. I think they
should too. But what do you do when you've got
half the street blowing stuff down a drain and then
you what are you gonna have the other half cleaning
it up? No? One's sort of and we need to

(01:35:20):
be a bit more combine. We need to be in
cahoots on this, don't we, rather than sort of going
in our own directions. It is ten away from seven
News Talks EBB.

Speaker 1 (01:35:31):
It's the Heather too for see All and Drive full
show podcast on iHeartRadio powered by News Talks EBB News TALKSB.

Speaker 2 (01:35:39):
Eight minutes away from seven. The court documents have come
out for departu Marti Man. It just does never gets
better for them, does it it. The hole just keeps
digging and digging and digging, getting deeper and deeper and deeper.
They'll reach China soon, So what's happened is that emails
between marium and a KAPAKINGI and a guy who you
probably haven't heard of, called Lance Norman. He's the party secretary.

(01:36:01):
And so Mariiameno and Lance are emailing back and forth,
and in one of the and they're referencing a meeting
which was held like a hue to try and calm
things down, which involved the co letters JT and Mariameno
CUPAKINGI right, and it's in reference to when JT called
Mariameno's son, I said, I'm going to get utu on him.

(01:36:25):
You know that's quite an offensive thing to say. So anyway,
Then in this email, Norman goes back to Mariiomeno cuppa
King and says, in conclusion, I was in attendance at
this meeting where you alleged mister Tumberhead. He made a
statement about your Fano and you will recall that you
called him an effing seaward. This is all in the documents,

(01:36:46):
the court documents. This is a party that will get
and should get nowhere near the treasury benches, nowhere near
a cabinet table. Lord help us. This is an absolute
mess of proportions. I don't think we've seen in recent
political history. That's easy to say, coming up at seven
o'clock and so what are we going out to tonight?

Speaker 9 (01:37:08):
Teenage dirt bag by Wheatis to take us out tonight, Ryan,
this is actually quite a nice story. Wheatis are coming
to New Zealand in January. We knew that. But they're
going to be playing one show in Napier. So they're
doing Auckland, Wellington and Napier. Why Napier Well Basically, the
bloke at the Rob Franks, at the Napier Music Academy,
saw that they were going to play Auckland Wellington and
he was like, hey, we could do a show here,

(01:37:29):
So he reached out to them, booked a venue, the
Paisley Stage, and it's happening. It's a two hundred capacity
venue and Rob says that he really thinks that wind
bands of a smaller size or a large size when
they come to New Zealand, it's always Auckland, Wellington or
christ Church. And he says there's more to New Zealand
and that let's try get them to other places. And
he's gone out and done it, so good on them.

Speaker 2 (01:37:46):
Fantastic.

Speaker 9 (01:37:47):
Yeah, the Wellington shows at San fran That one's sold out,
but you can still get tickets for the Napier show
and the Auckland one if you're interested.

Speaker 2 (01:37:53):
Great. This song was in the American pie kind of era,
wasn't it.

Speaker 9 (01:37:58):
Yeah, early early naughties. Yeah, probably the only one from
whaitis that most of us will know.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
I would say, I actually confused yesterday when you told
me about this confused Wheatus with Weezer, very different bands, which.

Speaker 9 (01:38:09):
Yeah, to be well, Weser was across that whole error
as well. And this music video as well had an
actress and at Mina Savaria. Then event she was also
in American beauty movies about there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
That's true. All right, very good. We'll leave you with
some Wheatus this evening and see tomorrow on your Friday.

Speaker 8 (01:38:28):
ANGI she's mist.

Speaker 10 (01:39:14):
She man, I feel like more.

Speaker 8 (01:39:22):
It's for a night and night and lonely alone, behome.
She's walking over to me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:30):
This must be fake.

Speaker 8 (01:39:33):
My lip starts to shake. How does she know who
I am?

Speaker 4 (01:39:40):
And why does she give a damn bad I've got
to duck.

Speaker 8 (01:39:46):
It's deal on, my lady, come with me from Monday
and don't say just the temp.

Speaker 1 (01:40:00):
Thank you, For more from Hither Dupless, see Alan Drive.

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