December 11, 2025 • 7 mins
Tonight on The Huddle, Ali Jones from Red PR and Brigitte Morton from Franks Ogilvie joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
The Taxpayers' Union has released some packaged fudge taking aim at Nicola Willis' track record as a Finance Minister - ahead of the debate between her and Ruth Richardson that's supposed to be taking place. What do we make of all this?
The US is reportedly looking to require tourists to hand over their social media accounts in order to travel there. How do we feel about this? Would it put you off travelling to the US?
Cancer diagnoses are set to skyrocket in the next 20 years, but experts say at least half of these could be prevented if we smoked less, drank less, ate better and got more exercise. Do we need to take more responsibility for our health?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name
you can trust locally and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Globally, joining me the sevening Bridget Morton, who is a
lawyer with Frank's Ogilvy and Ellie Jones Red pr Good evening, Kay,
how I am a good thank you. Let's start with
the Taxpayers Union fudge stunt, the false flag event if
that's what if you want to listen to the unions,
what do we think? Bridget has all gotten a bit
weird in my mind, but it's happening next week apparently.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, I think it's a classic pre Christmas, you know,
a bit of noise to go around. Of course, I'm
sort of in the middle of here, stuck in the
fudge tax Pas Union as a client of mine, whereas
Nichola Willis have been campaign chare for the last couple
of elections, so you know, probably could have lined down
the middle. But I do think this budge stunt actually
probably benefits them both, you know, for the tax Payers Union,
(00:49):
that's really talking to their base about holding the government
to account and what's been spend to debt levels and
all of that sort of thing, because they do want
lower taxes and for Nicola Willis it gives you a
chance to sort of different she had herself from that
mother or budget which is not going to be as
tough as national wars in the nineties, and allows her
to sort of show the modern face of the national partting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I think yesterday I said it was a win
win like she even if she loses, she wins because
she looks well, not as radical as with Richardson, right.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Ellie, Yeah, and also well, the only thing is I
want to start off by saying I don't have a conflict.
I am feeling quite nauseous from having eaten several pieces
of Nicholas fudge, which arrived today from Jordan Williams. So
thank you for that's I listen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I hear what Bridget's.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Saying, and I agree from a political perspective, and she's
far more qualified to talk on that. I wanted to
talk about the marketing. I think it's absolutely outstanding. It's
really witty, funny, clever. I mean on the lid of
the box that says the aroma will hit you first,
a warm blend of heroic assumptions and overconfidence whipped together
(01:53):
with more debt and denial than ever before, and I
mean the whole thing. It's I think it's a masterclass
in marketing, and I'm really looking forward to it. I
heard what you said earlier, Ryan, I love this stuff
and I get really sick and tired of she said,
she said stuff in the news, and it runs for
two or three days, and you never get a conversation
where someone puts something to someone, they respond to it,
(02:15):
and then someone else responds again. This means that they
can actually have a conversation and when one of them
calls byes, the other one can say why and this
is how. And so I'm really looking forward to I
heard you say, you know, you think it's a bit
of BS, but I'll be watching no exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But I think what I mean by that is it's
about It might be more of a Beltway thing, this
particular debate than you might expect from a you know,
a labor on national one. But on the I agree
with you on the marketing. Fantastic marketing, Ellie. And what
I've done because i haven't eaten any of the chocolate
myself yet, but I've saved the whole thing, the box,
(02:52):
the whole kitten kaboodle, and I'm giving it to my
mother in law for Christmas because she loves politics. She's
really into this kind of thing, so I think she's
going to absolutely love like it's quite well done or
the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
It's absolutely stunning. We sing a video.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, I didn't know it was the video.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, there's an AI created video. Have you seen a Bridget?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah I have?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You have created proper bridge anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
No, well I have a look because it's actually a
bit scary. The only thing I'll say about that and
with the video is we do need to talk about
these issues seriously, and I'd hate this to turn into
a you know, a sort.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Of a cat fight.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Silly you know, the marketing and the fun of it
overwhelms some of the really serious issues. I hope that
doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Alien Bridget back in a second.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only
truly global brand.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Bridget Mordan Allie Jones on the huddle tonight. Hey, how
do we feel Bridget about going to the US If
you're going to have to hand over your social media
handle for the last five years And apparently we spoke
to a lawyer. If you're if your profile is currently
they might ask you to make it public so that
they can scan it what you've posted, and then you
(04:06):
can make it private again after that. Does it How
would you feel going to the US under those circumstances.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh, it's completely off putting. I think a lot of
people wouldn't want to do that. I think it's not
just the fact of the privacy element and the concern
that you may have inevinently said something in the last
five years that they're going to take an issue with.
There's also just the mechanics of it. Most of us
when we travel want to have it as easy as possible.
If you think that you're going to be caught up
because somebody's going to be scrolling all the way back,
(04:32):
you know, through your Instagram, was sitting in La, it's
probably not going to go through the US, or you're
going to choose to go somewhere else. If you've got
to live in the amount of time for holiday, it
just seems completely ridiculous. And you look at the justification
for it is you know that there's been a foreign
person who you know, has called time in the US.
There were with suddenly our social media accounts need to
(04:54):
be open to access. I just don't think that they're
interested in my tramping photos. That's complete other rage.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I agree. That totally puts me off the idea
of even transitting through the alley.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, if we wanted another reason, or even needed another
reason not to go to the US, this is it.
Surely I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean,
just the thought of it. It feels quite violating really,
And you know, I know people don't want to see
me singing karaoke at last year's Christmas party, but you know,
there's a lot of stuff in there about friends that
we've lost, and just a lot of really personal stuff.
(05:29):
I just think it's absolutely outrageous. Oh, I wouldn't go
to the States. Don't need to go to the States,
so certainly wouldn't. This is another reason.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you, right this cancer
diagnosis story. So over the next twenty years, we will
see a fifty percent increase in cancer diagnoses, and half
will be because of preventable, preventable cancers. I we're drinking,
we're smoking, we're eating the wrong foods, bridget do we
(05:55):
I mean, we know this like people say, do we
need an education campaign, do we need to need to
cash campaign, or do we already know what's bad for
us and we do it anyway because that's just part
of living well.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think there's an element of sort of self responsibility.
But if you actually look at some of those education
campaigns we've had previously, they have led to change. You know,
smoking rates are very very low compared to what they
used to be. Also, look at the beach this summer.
You know, every kid will be wearing a RAS shirt.
Will we have a hat on? Have suns going on?
We've completely changed our attitude to sort of sun and
(06:27):
I think we are changing our attitudes and learning more
and more about you know, the difference is sometimes of
processed meats or you know, excess alcohol. I think those
things are changing, but they do require a bit of
cultural change, and so I don't think it's necessarily fair
to say that, you know, we all know this, we
do need sometimes those reminders to kind of go is
this actually the right thing for you to do in
(06:48):
the long term.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ellie Well, I.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Think it's a combination of things. I think, yes, it's
certainly self responsibility, but I think as some of the
media coverage around this has said prevention is the key here,
and the story I was reading says improved prevention efforts
could see between eighty fourteen thousand fure cancer diagnoses each year.
And I think the other thing with prevention to remember
(07:10):
is that prevention is all about catching something early as well.
You know, we've all heard the saying and an ounce
of prevention is worth I think it's a pound of cure,
and we really need to shore up our frontline primary
health services. That's where this prevention and nipping these things
in the bud happens. So I agree that we've got
to be more responsible, but it's actually more than that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I appreciate you guys tonight. Thank you. Bridget Morton, lawyer
at Frank's Ogilvy, and Ellie Jones from red PR on
the Huddle for.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
More from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news
Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty, a name
you can trust locally and.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Globally, joining me the sevening Bridget Morton, who is a
lawyer with Frank's Ogilvy and Ellie Jones Red pr Good evening, Kay,
how I am a good thank you. Let's start with
the Taxpayers Union fudge stunt, the false flag event if
that's what if you want to listen to the unions,
what do we think? Bridget has all gotten a bit
weird in my mind, but it's happening next week apparently.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Yeah, I think it's a classic pre Christmas, you know,
a bit of noise to go around. Of course, I'm
sort of in the middle of here, stuck in the
fudge tax Pas Union as a client of mine, whereas
Nichola Willis have been campaign chare for the last couple
of elections, so you know, probably could have lined down
the middle. But I do think this budge stunt actually
probably benefits them both, you know, for the tax Payers Union,
(00:49):
that's really talking to their base about holding the government
to account and what's been spend to debt levels and
all of that sort of thing, because they do want
lower taxes and for Nicola Willis it gives you a
chance to sort of different she had herself from that
mother or budget which is not going to be as
tough as national wars in the nineties, and allows her
to sort of show the modern face of the national partting.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, I think yesterday I said it was a win
win like she even if she loses, she wins because
she looks well, not as radical as with Richardson, right.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Ellie, Yeah, and also well, the only thing is I
want to start off by saying I don't have a conflict.
I am feeling quite nauseous from having eaten several pieces
of Nicholas fudge, which arrived today from Jordan Williams. So
thank you for that's I listen.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
I hear what Bridget's.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Saying, and I agree from a political perspective, and she's
far more qualified to talk on that. I wanted to
talk about the marketing. I think it's absolutely outstanding. It's
really witty, funny, clever. I mean on the lid of
the box that says the aroma will hit you first,
a warm blend of heroic assumptions and overconfidence whipped together
(01:53):
with more debt and denial than ever before, and I
mean the whole thing. It's I think it's a masterclass
in marketing, and I'm really looking forward to it. I
heard what you said earlier, Ryan, I love this stuff
and I get really sick and tired of she said,
she said stuff in the news, and it runs for
two or three days, and you never get a conversation
where someone puts something to someone, they respond to it,
(02:15):
and then someone else responds again. This means that they
can actually have a conversation and when one of them
calls byes, the other one can say why and this
is how. And so I'm really looking forward to I
heard you say, you know, you think it's a bit
of BS, but I'll be watching no exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But I think what I mean by that is it's
about It might be more of a Beltway thing, this
particular debate than you might expect from a you know,
a labor on national one. But on the I agree
with you on the marketing. Fantastic marketing, Ellie. And what
I've done because i haven't eaten any of the chocolate
myself yet, but I've saved the whole thing, the box,
(02:52):
the whole kitten kaboodle, and I'm giving it to my
mother in law for Christmas because she loves politics. She's
really into this kind of thing, so I think she's
going to absolutely love like it's quite well done or
the whole thing.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
It's absolutely stunning. We sing a video.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
No, I didn't know it was the video.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah, there's an AI created video. Have you seen a Bridget?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah I have?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
You have created proper bridge anyway.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
But.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
No, well I have a look because it's actually a
bit scary. The only thing I'll say about that and
with the video is we do need to talk about
these issues seriously, and I'd hate this to turn into
a you know, a sort.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Of a cat fight.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Silly you know, the marketing and the fun of it
overwhelms some of the really serious issues. I hope that
doesn't happen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Alien Bridget back in a second.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
The Huddle with New Zealand Southeby's International Realty the only
truly global brand.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Bridget Mordan Allie Jones on the huddle tonight. Hey, how
do we feel Bridget about going to the US If
you're going to have to hand over your social media
handle for the last five years And apparently we spoke
to a lawyer. If you're if your profile is currently
they might ask you to make it public so that
they can scan it what you've posted, and then you
(04:06):
can make it private again after that. Does it How
would you feel going to the US under those circumstances.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Oh, it's completely off putting. I think a lot of
people wouldn't want to do that. I think it's not
just the fact of the privacy element and the concern
that you may have inevinently said something in the last
five years that they're going to take an issue with.
There's also just the mechanics of it. Most of us
when we travel want to have it as easy as possible.
If you think that you're going to be caught up
because somebody's going to be scrolling all the way back,
(04:32):
you know, through your Instagram, was sitting in La, it's
probably not going to go through the US, or you're
going to choose to go somewhere else. If you've got
to live in the amount of time for holiday, it
just seems completely ridiculous. And you look at the justification
for it is you know that there's been a foreign
person who you know, has called time in the US.
There were with suddenly our social media accounts need to
(04:54):
be open to access. I just don't think that they're
interested in my tramping photos. That's complete other rage.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I agree. That totally puts me off the idea
of even transitting through the alley.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, if we wanted another reason, or even needed another
reason not to go to the US, this is it.
Surely I totally agree with what you're saying. I mean,
just the thought of it. It feels quite violating really,
And you know, I know people don't want to see
me singing karaoke at last year's Christmas party, but you know,
there's a lot of stuff in there about friends that
we've lost, and just a lot of really personal stuff.
(05:29):
I just think it's absolutely outrageous. Oh, I wouldn't go
to the States. Don't need to go to the States,
so certainly wouldn't. This is another reason.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Yeah, I tend to agree with you, right this cancer
diagnosis story. So over the next twenty years, we will
see a fifty percent increase in cancer diagnoses, and half
will be because of preventable, preventable cancers. I we're drinking,
we're smoking, we're eating the wrong foods, bridget do we
(05:55):
I mean, we know this like people say, do we
need an education campaign, do we need to need to
cash campaign, or do we already know what's bad for
us and we do it anyway because that's just part
of living well.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think there's an element of sort of self responsibility.
But if you actually look at some of those education
campaigns we've had previously, they have led to change. You know,
smoking rates are very very low compared to what they
used to be. Also, look at the beach this summer.
You know, every kid will be wearing a RAS shirt.
Will we have a hat on? Have suns going on?
We've completely changed our attitude to sort of sun and
(06:27):
I think we are changing our attitudes and learning more
and more about you know, the difference is sometimes of
processed meats or you know, excess alcohol. I think those
things are changing, but they do require a bit of
cultural change, and so I don't think it's necessarily fair
to say that, you know, we all know this, we
do need sometimes those reminders to kind of go is
this actually the right thing for you to do in
(06:48):
the long term.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Ellie Well, I.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Think it's a combination of things. I think, yes, it's
certainly self responsibility, but I think as some of the
media coverage around this has said prevention is the key here,
and the story I was reading says improved prevention efforts
could see between eighty fourteen thousand fure cancer diagnoses each year.
And I think the other thing with prevention to remember
(07:10):
is that prevention is all about catching something early as well.
You know, we've all heard the saying and an ounce
of prevention is worth I think it's a pound of cure,
and we really need to shore up our frontline primary
health services. That's where this prevention and nipping these things
in the bud happens. So I agree that we've got
to be more responsible, but it's actually more than that.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I appreciate you guys tonight. Thank you. Bridget Morton, lawyer
at Frank's Ogilvy, and Ellie Jones from red PR on
the Huddle for.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
More from Heather Duplessy Allen Drive. Listen live to news
Talks it'd be from four pm weekdays, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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