The Prime Minister's tempering expectations ahead of the Government's books opening this week.
The Half Year Economic and Fiscal Update will be unveiled tomorrow - with some economists expecting a projected surplus to be pushed out by another year.
Newstalk ZB senior political correspondent Barry Soper says this will be the third time a return to surplus has been pushed out.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Very so overhere with politics.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Very good afternoon, good afternoon, right, terrible about what's happening
in Sydney, obviously, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Well, it's shocking and you know we've all been through
that in this country. When you think back to the
Moss killings when fifty one people were killed, I remember
feeling honestly speechless. In your Australian correspondent said that he
felt really emotional talking about it. It's just awful that
you something like this can happen in a country like
(00:27):
Australia and like New Zealand. And of course the perpetrator
of the New Zealand Moss shooting wasn't Australian, Brenton Tarrant.
But that you can't make You can't play politics with
this game. Even though Chloe Swarbrick has been singled out
by a number of people because of her statements, but
look like us all. It was the shaken Prime Minister
(00:50):
who spoke to journalists this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Terrorism and hate have no place in our societies. Violence
of any kind is unacceptable, whether it is targeted at
people of due or any other faith. We all need
to call out in tolerance when we see it there
is room in this world for everyone to live side
by side at peace. At the stage, we have no
indication that any New Zealanders have been injured in the attack,
(01:13):
so let's all continue to look after each other, especially
our Australian and our Jewish friends. At this time, you're
shocked and appalled to think that something like that could
happen in a place where so much fun typically takes place.
And I have to be honest, as I watched those
images late last night, you know, into the early hours
of this morning, you know it's really sickening, and you
know your thoughts immediately go to the families of loved
ones who lost someone yesterday. You think about the people
(01:36):
that are fighting for their lives in hospital right now.
There are incredible stories again first responders, but also incredible
stories of just people in the local community coming down
onto the beach and helping where they could and can.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And that amazing man that came to undisarmed.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
One of the guns, the fruit boner. I'm incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I can't even envisage that a father and son would
be did you go the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
First thing, no, exactly. The first thing you think is, oh,
their parents will be absolutely ashamed and then you realize
the dead's in honors. Yeah, just hey, Bear's got behave tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The supers we pushed out again.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes it will be. That'll be the third time it's
been pushed out. But no doubt Nichola Willis will have
a good argument for it, unless hope she does have
a good argument for it, because the debate.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Is it happening?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
What has happened?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I'm mary on board now.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know, I've I've texted the Taxpayers Union today say well,
who's moderating? Where is it at?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And I've heard anything now. But look, I think I
think it will be on Thursday, because that's certainly the
last word from Nikola Willis on it. But that debate.
Luxon says he understands why Nikola Willis wants to put
up the government's case against former National Finance Minister Ruth Richardson.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think it is important that she feels she can
defend the record of this government and the approach of
this government and what we're doing. I think you would
have seen last week, you know he had major RMA reform.
I think there was well understood that was well supported
across the country. This week, we've got HEIFU Tomorrow on Thursday,
we'll have the GDP growth numbers. And why I think
what's important is that for most New Zealanders, they really
focused on Christmas, focus on Christmas shopping, and they need
(03:15):
to know that actually we're going into Christmas with the
economy building and with good momentum.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
See, there's always a positive to all these things, right.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nothing positive at your house apparently?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh what else? Thank you for bringing that up. Well,
it's a domestic dispute, and I want to take this
opportunity actually to tell you the real story about something
my other have said on the breakfast show this morning
about the debate.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Have her listen to hearther.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And I'll give you the real story.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I'm here for this debate. But this debate between Nichola
and Ruth is getting more and more ridiculous by the
day because I don't know if you've heard what the
latest is, but there is, for one hot minute, they
thought that the moderator should be Winston. Apparently this idea
has emanated from within my household that Nicola texts me
last night seas it was Barry's idea. So apparently Barry
sober came up with the idea that Winston should be
(04:01):
the moderator and then pitched it to Nichola's office, and
then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank the good Lord.
Winston is otherwise occupied and will not be doing it
because I'll tell you there's no chance that you would
get to hear anything from Nicola or Ruth. It would
just be the Winston show talking about I don't know,
you know that the evils of capital that no thanks,
I want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can
(04:21):
defend himself. I think it's a terrible idea. I'm not
allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to tell him
anymore like his off limits in the house. I'm not
allowed to say your idea sucks. So I just say
it on the radio to you and then he can
defend it later on. We just have we just have that, like,
just have a fight through you.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But that's how most work.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's normal, geez very it's all out there.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I hate to get in the middle of this, but
I think that that may have come from me on
Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Because I said that you were you were getting Winston involved. No, well,
thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, you know, but the thing is that it wasn't
me that suggested that Winston might be the moderator of
the debate.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
In fact, it was the taxpayer Union itself. You were
just talking to him like a good journalist. I went
to Winston and said, would you do it? And he
said yes, probably, Nichola Willis.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I've muddy the waters. I said, you were orchestrating the whole.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Thing from thanks right, I'm leaving. I've had enough.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Go home to hear there and explain yourself for more
from hither Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Very so overhere with politics.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Very good afternoon, good afternoon, right, terrible about what's happening
in Sydney, obviously, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
Well, it's shocking and you know we've all been through
that in this country. When you think back to the
Moss killings when fifty one people were killed, I remember
feeling honestly speechless. In your Australian correspondent said that he
felt really emotional talking about it. It's just awful that
you something like this can happen in a country like
(00:27):
Australia and like New Zealand. And of course the perpetrator
of the New Zealand Moss shooting wasn't Australian, Brenton Tarrant.
But that you can't make You can't play politics with
this game. Even though Chloe Swarbrick has been singled out
by a number of people because of her statements, but
look like us all. It was the shaken Prime Minister
(00:50):
who spoke to journalists this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Terrorism and hate have no place in our societies. Violence
of any kind is unacceptable, whether it is targeted at
people of due or any other faith. We all need
to call out in tolerance when we see it there
is room in this world for everyone to live side
by side at peace. At the stage, we have no
indication that any New Zealanders have been injured in the attack,
(01:13):
so let's all continue to look after each other, especially
our Australian and our Jewish friends. At this time, you're
shocked and appalled to think that something like that could
happen in a place where so much fun typically takes place.
And I have to be honest, as I watched those
images late last night, you know, into the early hours
of this morning, you know it's really sickening, and you
know your thoughts immediately go to the families of loved
ones who lost someone yesterday. You think about the people
(01:36):
that are fighting for their lives in hospital right now.
There are incredible stories again first responders, but also incredible
stories of just people in the local community coming down
onto the beach and helping where they could and can.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
And that amazing man that came to undisarmed.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
One of the guns, the fruit boner. I'm incredible.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
I can't even envisage that a father and son would
be did you go the.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
First thing, no, exactly. The first thing you think is, oh,
their parents will be absolutely ashamed and then you realize
the dead's in honors. Yeah, just hey, Bear's got behave tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
The supers we pushed out again.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Yes it will be. That'll be the third time it's
been pushed out. But no doubt Nichola Willis will have
a good argument for it, unless hope she does have
a good argument for it, because the debate.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Is it happening?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
What has happened?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Well, I'm mary on board now.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
I know, I've I've texted the Taxpayers Union today say well,
who's moderating? Where is it at?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
What?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
And I've heard anything now. But look, I think I
think it will be on Thursday, because that's certainly the
last word from Nikola Willis on it. But that debate.
Luxon says he understands why Nikola Willis wants to put
up the government's case against former National Finance Minister Ruth Richardson.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
I think it is important that she feels she can
defend the record of this government and the approach of
this government and what we're doing. I think you would
have seen last week, you know he had major RMA reform.
I think there was well understood that was well supported
across the country. This week, we've got HEIFU Tomorrow on Thursday,
we'll have the GDP growth numbers. And why I think
what's important is that for most New Zealanders, they really
focused on Christmas, focus on Christmas shopping, and they need
(03:15):
to know that actually we're going into Christmas with the
economy building and with good momentum.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
See, there's always a positive to all these things, right.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Nothing positive at your house apparently?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Oh what else? Thank you for bringing that up. Well,
it's a domestic dispute, and I want to take this
opportunity actually to tell you the real story about something
my other have said on the breakfast show this morning
about the debate.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Have her listen to hearther.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And I'll give you the real story.
Speaker 6 (03:40):
I'm here for this debate. But this debate between Nichola
and Ruth is getting more and more ridiculous by the
day because I don't know if you've heard what the
latest is, but there is, for one hot minute, they
thought that the moderator should be Winston. Apparently this idea
has emanated from within my household that Nicola texts me
last night seas it was Barry's idea. So apparently Barry
sober came up with the idea that Winston should be
(04:01):
the moderator and then pitched it to Nichola's office, and
then nicholas office were like, hmm, thank the good Lord.
Winston is otherwise occupied and will not be doing it
because I'll tell you there's no chance that you would
get to hear anything from Nicola or Ruth. It would
just be the Winston show talking about I don't know,
you know that the evils of capital that no thanks,
I want to hear from the ladies anyway. Barry can
(04:21):
defend himself. I think it's a terrible idea. I'm not
allowed to say that. I'm not allowed to tell him
anymore like his off limits in the house. I'm not
allowed to say your idea sucks. So I just say
it on the radio to you and then he can
defend it later on. We just have we just have that, like,
just have a fight through you.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
But that's how most work.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
It's normal, geez very it's all out there.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I hate to get in the middle of this, but
I think that that may have come from me on
Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Because I said that you were you were getting Winston involved. No, well,
thank you very much.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
Right.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Well, you know, but the thing is that it wasn't
me that suggested that Winston might be the moderator of
the debate.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
In fact, it was the taxpayer Union itself. You were
just talking to him like a good journalist. I went
to Winston and said, would you do it? And he
said yes, probably, Nichola Willis.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I've muddy the waters. I said, you were orchestrating the whole.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Thing from thanks right, I'm leaving. I've had enough.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Go home to hear there and explain yourself for more
from hither Duplessy Allen Drive.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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