Chairman David Kirk's accepting responsibility for a worldwide search for a New Zealand Rugby CEO that has ended with them promoting one of their own.
Community rugby boss and interim chief executive Steve Lancaster is the new boss, ending a months-long search for a replacement for Mark Robinson.
Sportstalk host D'Arcy Waldegrave explained further.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Darcy water Grave sports talk hosters with me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, Darce, I grew up in fear of myself. Is
that even worse?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And what's changed is that you're no longer living in
fear of yourself what the rest of us are?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you very much, Thank you great to be on board.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just walk out the door and what happened? Did you
touch her?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
No? No, no, no no. I was standing in the
doorway and she came out and she placed both of
her hands on my waist. You saw it, and I mean, ah,
I'm being touched in appropriately and she went, yeah, you are,
And I who was there? I feel sorry?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
She was awesome. Yeah, well I feel sorry. Hey listen. Okay,
so we've got Steve Lancaster, boss of new boss of
nz R. It's going to be with us after five o'clock.
So let's talk to you about the NALI stuff so
that I don't have to talk to him about it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Great.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He's not their first choice. He probably not because it
was Tom Harrison of Six Nations.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That looked like it. I don't know what happened in
the interim, but maybe he came over checked out the
layer of the land, checked out. The people are actually
running this show and thought, you know what, I don't
want to be under this. And I wonder how much
power David Kirk has in this and if he met
David Kirk and went okay, David Kirk very powerful man.
(01:16):
He is the CEO by proxy, isn't he really? He
runs the show. So maybe they're like, wow, now if
I work like this, I don't know. I'm just throwing
ideas up in the ear.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Somebody suggested the pay is like nine hund thousand to
one point one million. It's not enough to get somebody
like Tom Harrison over here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well there's that what a CEO is in. I think
the bloke he runs this place earns a few meal,
doesn't he? In general, it's it's quite high for Looten.
They make a lot of money. But I think there's
a lot of this bit of ego and this as well.
I'm the CEO of New Zealand Rugby. That's pretty cool.
It's got to make up for a few hundred grand.
And these people make a fortune anyway. They don't care really,
just numbers, right. But what I like about this, and
(01:55):
I think there's been a turnaround because he supposed to
be the chief rugby officer at Lancaster. Once they got
the new CEO, Ah, that was the role he was
going into and that was released what February. I think,
so that is obviously no longer case, so they have
to find a new person to do that. But I
think when you look at the delegation of roles within
(02:19):
New Zealand rugby, you've now got a very good CFO,
You've got a very good c COO. So you've got
two guys who understand the commercial realities of playing on
a global stage. With the likes of Silverlate, the list
goes on. So in the case of Lancaster, he doesn't
have to be right. He needs to be across the business,
but he doesn't have to be right in the weeds
(02:40):
of the financial side of that, and that's a really
important part of ian z are. What they want is
a figurehead, someone who screams New Zealand Rugby's played for Canterbury,
he's played for Crusaders, he's been involved at a community
rugby level. He knows everybody, really affable guy and he
provides that real New Zealand sides to being a CEO.
(03:05):
He's like one of the people, like you've interviewed and
I've interviewed, and yeah, and he does it really Also,
does he have to be the monster financially, No, he doesn't.
He's got to be across it. Obviously he does. But
I think part of that that went, well, you know what,
we've actually got the ideal guy right here. If we
can't get this high falut and two billion dollar people
(03:25):
across the line, two million dollars year across the iron.
So he's done everything, so why not? And you've seen
that new selling rugby that they starting to understand the
concept of delegation, and now with the coach, and now
the coach has answered a couple of people and now
it's this structure which there hasn't been before. I mean,
if you're being really.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Hey, okay, that's enough. You know what, You've got your
own show after seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is my show.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, thank you, Doc. Is there anything else?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Actually, I agree with that question already, Darcy water Grave
Sports Talok Coast.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As long as you didn't touch me inappropriately in the studio.
That's why I'm sitting so far across the desk from you.
And tonight in the show, Gregor Paul's going to talk
about this.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
With us, ask him about Yeah pirstchoice was. He's back
at seven for two for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.
Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Darcy water Grave sports talk hosters with me.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Hello, Darce, I grew up in fear of myself. Is
that even worse?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
And what's changed is that you're no longer living in
fear of yourself what the rest of us are?
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thank you very much, Thank you great to be on board.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
Just walk out the door and what happened? Did you
touch her?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
No? No, no, no no. I was standing in the
doorway and she came out and she placed both of
her hands on my waist. You saw it, and I mean, ah,
I'm being touched in appropriately and she went, yeah, you are,
And I who was there? I feel sorry?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
She was awesome. Yeah, well I feel sorry. Hey listen. Okay,
so we've got Steve Lancaster, boss of new boss of
nz R. It's going to be with us after five o'clock.
So let's talk to you about the NALI stuff so
that I don't have to talk to him about it.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Great.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
He's not their first choice. He probably not because it
was Tom Harrison of Six Nations.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That looked like it. I don't know what happened in
the interim, but maybe he came over checked out the
layer of the land, checked out. The people are actually
running this show and thought, you know what, I don't
want to be under this. And I wonder how much
power David Kirk has in this and if he met
David Kirk and went okay, David Kirk very powerful man.
(01:16):
He is the CEO by proxy, isn't he really? He
runs the show. So maybe they're like, wow, now if
I work like this, I don't know. I'm just throwing
ideas up in the ear.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Somebody suggested the pay is like nine hund thousand to
one point one million. It's not enough to get somebody
like Tom Harrison over here.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Well there's that what a CEO is in. I think
the bloke he runs this place earns a few meal,
doesn't he? In general, it's it's quite high for Looten.
They make a lot of money. But I think there's
a lot of this bit of ego and this as well.
I'm the CEO of New Zealand Rugby. That's pretty cool.
It's got to make up for a few hundred grand.
And these people make a fortune anyway. They don't care really,
just numbers, right. But what I like about this, and
(01:55):
I think there's been a turnaround because he supposed to
be the chief rugby officer at Lancaster. Once they got
the new CEO, Ah, that was the role he was
going into and that was released what February. I think,
so that is obviously no longer case, so they have
to find a new person to do that. But I
think when you look at the delegation of roles within
(02:19):
New Zealand rugby, you've now got a very good CFO,
You've got a very good c COO. So you've got
two guys who understand the commercial realities of playing on
a global stage. With the likes of Silverlate, the list
goes on. So in the case of Lancaster, he doesn't
have to be right. He needs to be across the business,
but he doesn't have to be right in the weeds
(02:40):
of the financial side of that, and that's a really
important part of ian z are. What they want is
a figurehead, someone who screams New Zealand Rugby's played for Canterbury,
he's played for Crusaders, he's been involved at a community
rugby level. He knows everybody, really affable guy and he
provides that real New Zealand sides to being a CEO.
(03:05):
He's like one of the people, like you've interviewed and
I've interviewed, and yeah, and he does it really Also,
does he have to be the monster financially, No, he doesn't.
He's got to be across it. Obviously he does. But
I think part of that that went, well, you know what,
we've actually got the ideal guy right here. If we
can't get this high falut and two billion dollar people
(03:25):
across the line, two million dollars year across the iron.
So he's done everything, so why not? And you've seen
that new selling rugby that they starting to understand the
concept of delegation, and now with the coach, and now
the coach has answered a couple of people and now
it's this structure which there hasn't been before. I mean,
if you're being really.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Hey, okay, that's enough. You know what, You've got your
own show after seven o'clock.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
This is my show.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Okay, thank you, Doc. Is there anything else?
Speaker 2 (03:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Actually, I agree with that question already, Darcy water Grave
Sports Talok Coast.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
As long as you didn't touch me inappropriately in the studio.
That's why I'm sitting so far across the desk from you.
And tonight in the show, Gregor Paul's going to talk
about this.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
With us, ask him about Yeah pirstchoice was. He's back
at seven for two for more from Hither Duplessy Allen Drive.
Listen live to news talks it'd be from four pm weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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