The legendary Miriam Margolyes is back in Christchurch, joining John MacDonald in studio for a chat.
She’s one of a few famous names taking part in the Isaac Theatre Royal Variety Gala show next week, popping into the city early to don a habit and play a nun in ‘Holy Days’.
Margolyes discussed all that was on her mind, her career, the importance of reading books, and how much it means to be back in the garden city.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZEDB and B Cannoby Mornings with John McDonald. So, Harry
Potter star after award winning actor Miriam Marghales is in
christ Church. And she's in christ Church ahead of the
big Isaac Theatre Royal Anniversary concert on the seventeenth and
we're delighted that she has made time to join us
for a chat.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know, hello, I'm very pleased to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now. I'm going to remind you of some of the
comments that you have made in semi recent times about
Donald Trump, because I think we can't we can't ignore
them today given no what's happened.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's very upsetting. I'm not an admirer of his, but
I'm not going to say the words that come to mind.
But you can quote me here said.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I've seen them reported previously. Are you Are you familiar
with Scottish satirist and writer Armando Ianucci.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes, brilliant man.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right well, he told The Times in the UK this week,
the newspaper you may may or may not have seen
that that his dream dinner date would be with two people,
one of them is Donald Trump, And the other one
is you really how would you see dinner with Donald
Trump and with Armando working out?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well? If I thought he was going to be there,
I wouldn't go, or you would no because it would
spoil my dinner.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
How do you feel about Keir Starmer? How's he going?
Because it seems to me he was very good at
winning an election, not great at being in government.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Not yet. I think he's not doing well at the moment,
but I believe in giving him time. I will not
give the Orange one anytime at all.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Speaking of time, wisconsint at the Isaac Theater Royal. It's
more than a week away. Are you just one of
those people that likes to turn up early? How come
you're in town? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, I'm here for a wonderful reason. I'm going to
do a film, Yes, tell us about that. It's called
Holy Days. It's about a group of nuns, and the
star is, well, the stars really is Judy Davis and
Jackie Weaver, both of whom I know and deeply admire.
(02:17):
I'm the kind of also ran comedy part of it.
I've got false teeth and I show my bum and
otherwise properly in a habit though, But just Karen, are.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You saying there's no backside model involved, it's yours.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, we're going to see how it pans out.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So do you find it frustrating because I've been saying
it all morning on a Harry Potter star, Harry Potter star.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well we get all that Harry Potter business.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
See does it get to appoint where I think, well,
there's a lot more to made than Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, I hope there is. I mean, look, I'm very
grateful to it. It was enormous fun to do, and
I worked with wonderful people like the late Maggie Smith,
whom I adored, and you know, Hagrid, Robbie coltr I mean,
all the best of British talent was there. But it's
years ago and it's for kids, and I'm over it.
(03:10):
I never watched it, I never read it. I went
to sleep except when I was on the screen, and
that's it. So it's over. But I wish it well,
and I think it's great for kids to enjoy it,
and it got them reading, and there is nothing more important,
nothing at all more important for kids except love and reading.
Those are the two things that they must have now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
How do I how do I touch on this? You're lesbian?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Are you going to touch on it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I'm lesbian as well. I love I love women,
so I'm lesbian the best.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So I am. I'm a long time lesbian and I'm
a practicing lesbian until I get it right?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Good to know? How does and I'm not I'm not
making a connection between the two. But how does your
involvement in the work of JK. Rowling? How does it
sit with some of the personal views that she has
ex risk in recent times in relation to transgender issues.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I don't think she said anything that I couldn't agree with.
I just think that everybody should be allowed to be
whoever they want to be. I am not anti trans,
I am not, as it were, pro lesbian. I'm just
a woman with a with a genital organ and I
play it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Maria Miga lisis with us. She was in Harry Potter book.
She doesn't want to be doesn't want to talk about
that Befter Award winning actor and she's in town for
the Variety Anniversary Variety Concert for the Isaac Theater Royal
a week on Sunday night. What are you going to
be doing in the concert? Mariam.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, I've been asked to do some Dickens and that
makes me very happy because the last time I was here,
which was in twenty twelve, just a year after the
terrible earthquake, that's what I did then. And so I'm
doing a bit of a reprise. I haven't worked out
which bits to do, but I'll be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's like a recital.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, I suppose it is. It's acting. It's taking on
the persona of one of Dickens's female characters, or it
maybe a male carrit I haven't decided yet, and just
to entertain and give people a good time so they
realize how vital theater is and how lucky they are
to have the Theater Royal. It's a great place.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We are very lucky and I don't know, do you
find this. What I love about the Arctic Theater Royal
is that you can go and see a shower, you
can go and see like the Variety concert got on
the seventeenth of November. But then you can go and
see bands like the Stranglers doing gigs. It's a rock
venue as well. I mean, I mean it is such
a gracious building and such a beautifully restored building. But
(05:51):
I reckon that the fact that it opens the doors
to so many things make sure or mean that it
has a long future.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What do you think, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you think theaters can get a little bit stuffy sometimes, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Depends on the people who are running them, and you've
got good people here. Theater opens doors, you know. Artists
make life bearable. It's politics and politicians that destroy it
for us, as I feel strongly today. But given I'm
being given the chance to show what I can do
and make people happy and make them realize what wonderful
(06:24):
things there are in literature to read, to read, to read,
not just to you know, sit in a bar and
drink and look at your phone all day.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is it a losing better though, because most of us
it's not losing. It's lost.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's lost already. So I'm just one of the last
pathetic beacons trying to point people in what I think
is the right direction to have the fun of life
from a book and not from a screen.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Do you know what I love about meeting people like you?
And actually I reckon, I reckon you are the I
reckon I can live vicariously through you in a couple
of ways, all right, with someone like you, I'm thinking, right,
you're across the disk from me, and you've been a
very similar distance from, or if not closer to the
likes of Stanley Tucci. Oh, yes, who was on the
(07:15):
Graham Norton Show with him?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yes, I was thrilled to meet him and I really
bonded with him. I thought he was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Had you met him before?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
No, No, I hadn't. That's the lovely thing about the
Graham Norton Show. You meet people you don't know. Because
I'm not really a world star like he is. I'm
just a little fat, old dike as you kindly mentioned.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh no, I didn't. I didn't quite put it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That way, but that's the truth, and I don't. I'm not.
I'm not a celebrity, but I do get to meet
through Graham. I get to meet a lot of fabulous people,
and he was one of them. And so afterwards, are
you aren't?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Are you the couch fuller? Is it? They ring up
and say, oh, we've got Stanley Tucci and we've got
Tom Crows and we need someone in the middle. Can
can you pop in on Thursday night? Miriam?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
If if that happens, I get paid. If I'm trying
to sell a book, then I don't get paid. That's
the way works. So I don't care what you know.
Either way, I get to meet people.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Can I come back to Stanley Tucci to you about
Boris Boris Johnson? Last night he was on Channel four
in the UK being a panelist for the election coverage.
They kicked him off. Do you know why? Every time
he spoke he held up his book and they asked
him a question and he said, oh, you can read
about that in the book. And after a few.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Hours it's not selling. That's wow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well who would buy who'd buy it? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, it's a tissue of lies from start to finish.
You know when he's lying, when he moves his lips.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Stanley Tucci, I've got to go to Stanley Tucci. Okay, right,
So if you don't know who Stanley Tucci is, he
was in Devil was Prada. He was also he was
a model back in the day. It was a looker
back in the day, and and and now he's the
thinking woman's crumpet. I think that's what helped. And he's
a cook, and he's a cook and I think he's
more well known for his cook for his cooking, I
should say, for his cooking than a then a then
(09:01):
as acting Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There were two.
There were two o's in there and there was no
there was only one. Say, the thing is, you were
on the show with him, but you mentioned to me
that you ended up going out for dinner with him afterwards.
What's it like going out for dinner with Stanley Tocci,
who's a real foodie. Does he get a bit boring
on it or no?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, he is never bored with the food, John shut,
I want to tell you, I want to hear it. Yeah, listen,
I said to him, let's go out for a meal.
Let's ask Graham to come with us. So we did,
and then you and McGregor rang up and said, I've
heard you're all going out for supper? Can I join?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Who's phoned? And you and McGregor rang up on.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
On Graham Norton's phone because I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So how did you and McGregor hear about it?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I don't know. Somebody must have been talking.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So what night of the week was this?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was I suppose a week after we were on
the show.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
All right, so organized you and McGregor, You and McGregor
jumps and you will Stanley Tocci and Graham Norton, Right,
what sort of restaurant to go to?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We went to the River Cafe, which is a really
nice Italian restaurant in Hammersmith by the by the the River.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Who chose the restaurant?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I think I did because I'd always wanted to go there.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right, So Stanley comes in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, and Graham and you and McGregor.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And who was king of the table because when you
go out there's always a king of the table, you know?
Was Stanley?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I think I was king because I was paying for it?
That was the key.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And what was he like when you got the meals?
Did he set there through?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We just we chatted like you and I are. It
was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, maybe we could go out for dinner.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
If you'd like. Have you are you married?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Then you've got to bring your wife with.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Brilliant all right. I was hoping for something on the
sod lovely to say you're Miriam and so what's playing
between now and seventeenth, the day of the concert.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, I've got I've got to go over the line.
So I know them, and I'm also doing a film.
As I told you, so you know, I'm a busy
old lady.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You like Boris Johnson next should be holding.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'm nothing like him in any way whatsoever. Wash your mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Out, missage saved lovely say it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
For more from Caterbory Mornings with John McDonald. Listen live
to news talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News Talk.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
ZEDB and B Cannoby Mornings with John McDonald. So, Harry
Potter star after award winning actor Miriam Marghales is in
christ Church. And she's in christ Church ahead of the
big Isaac Theatre Royal Anniversary concert on the seventeenth and
we're delighted that she has made time to join us
for a chat.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
You know, hello, I'm very pleased to be with you.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Now. I'm going to remind you of some of the
comments that you have made in semi recent times about
Donald Trump, because I think we can't we can't ignore
them today given no what's happened.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
It's very upsetting. I'm not an admirer of his, but
I'm not going to say the words that come to mind.
But you can quote me here said.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I've seen them reported previously. Are you Are you familiar
with Scottish satirist and writer Armando Ianucci.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Yes, brilliant man.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right well, he told The Times in the UK this week,
the newspaper you may may or may not have seen
that that his dream dinner date would be with two people,
one of them is Donald Trump, And the other one
is you really how would you see dinner with Donald
Trump and with Armando working out?
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well? If I thought he was going to be there,
I wouldn't go, or you would no because it would
spoil my dinner.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
How do you feel about Keir Starmer? How's he going?
Because it seems to me he was very good at
winning an election, not great at being in government.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Not yet. I think he's not doing well at the moment,
but I believe in giving him time. I will not
give the Orange one anytime at all.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Speaking of time, wisconsint at the Isaac Theater Royal. It's
more than a week away. Are you just one of
those people that likes to turn up early? How come
you're in town? Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Well, I'm here for a wonderful reason. I'm going to
do a film, Yes, tell us about that. It's called
Holy Days. It's about a group of nuns, and the
star is, well, the stars really is Judy Davis and
Jackie Weaver, both of whom I know and deeply admire.
(02:17):
I'm the kind of also ran comedy part of it.
I've got false teeth and I show my bum and
otherwise properly in a habit though, But just Karen, are.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You saying there's no backside model involved, it's yours.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Well, we're going to see how it pans out.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So do you find it frustrating because I've been saying
it all morning on a Harry Potter star, Harry Potter star.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well we get all that Harry Potter business.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
See does it get to appoint where I think, well,
there's a lot more to made than Harry Potter.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, I hope there is. I mean, look, I'm very
grateful to it. It was enormous fun to do, and
I worked with wonderful people like the late Maggie Smith,
whom I adored, and you know, Hagrid, Robbie coltr I mean,
all the best of British talent was there. But it's
years ago and it's for kids, and I'm over it.
(03:10):
I never watched it, I never read it. I went
to sleep except when I was on the screen, and
that's it. So it's over. But I wish it well,
and I think it's great for kids to enjoy it,
and it got them reading, and there is nothing more important,
nothing at all more important for kids except love and reading.
Those are the two things that they must have now.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
How do I how do I touch on this? You're lesbian?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Are you going to touch on it?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, I'm lesbian as well. I love I love women,
so I'm lesbian the best.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
So I am. I'm a long time lesbian and I'm
a practicing lesbian until I get it right?
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Good to know? How does and I'm not I'm not
making a connection between the two. But how does your
involvement in the work of JK. Rowling? How does it
sit with some of the personal views that she has
ex risk in recent times in relation to transgender issues.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
I don't think she said anything that I couldn't agree with.
I just think that everybody should be allowed to be
whoever they want to be. I am not anti trans,
I am not, as it were, pro lesbian. I'm just
a woman with a with a genital organ and I
play it.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Maria Miga lisis with us. She was in Harry Potter book.
She doesn't want to be doesn't want to talk about
that Befter Award winning actor and she's in town for
the Variety Anniversary Variety Concert for the Isaac Theater Royal
a week on Sunday night. What are you going to
be doing in the concert? Mariam.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Well, I've been asked to do some Dickens and that
makes me very happy because the last time I was here,
which was in twenty twelve, just a year after the
terrible earthquake, that's what I did then. And so I'm
doing a bit of a reprise. I haven't worked out
which bits to do, but I'll be entertaining.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
It's like a recital.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yes, I suppose it is. It's acting. It's taking on
the persona of one of Dickens's female characters, or it
maybe a male carrit I haven't decided yet, and just
to entertain and give people a good time so they
realize how vital theater is and how lucky they are
to have the Theater Royal. It's a great place.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
We are very lucky and I don't know, do you
find this. What I love about the Arctic Theater Royal
is that you can go and see a shower, you
can go and see like the Variety concert got on
the seventeenth of November. But then you can go and
see bands like the Stranglers doing gigs. It's a rock
venue as well. I mean, I mean it is such
a gracious building and such a beautifully restored building. But
(05:51):
I reckon that the fact that it opens the doors
to so many things make sure or mean that it
has a long future.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
What do you think, I think you're right.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you think theaters can get a little bit stuffy sometimes, Well, it.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
Depends on the people who are running them, and you've
got good people here. Theater opens doors, you know. Artists
make life bearable. It's politics and politicians that destroy it
for us, as I feel strongly today. But given I'm
being given the chance to show what I can do
and make people happy and make them realize what wonderful
(06:24):
things there are in literature to read, to read, to read,
not just to you know, sit in a bar and
drink and look at your phone all day.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Is it a losing better though, because most of us
it's not losing. It's lost.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
It's lost already. So I'm just one of the last
pathetic beacons trying to point people in what I think
is the right direction to have the fun of life
from a book and not from a screen.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Do you know what I love about meeting people like you?
And actually I reckon, I reckon you are the I
reckon I can live vicariously through you in a couple
of ways, all right, with someone like you, I'm thinking, right,
you're across the disk from me, and you've been a
very similar distance from, or if not closer to the
likes of Stanley Tucci. Oh, yes, who was on the
(07:15):
Graham Norton Show with him?
Speaker 3 (07:16):
Yes, I was thrilled to meet him and I really
bonded with him. I thought he was gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (07:22):
Had you met him before?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
No, No, I hadn't. That's the lovely thing about the
Graham Norton Show. You meet people you don't know. Because
I'm not really a world star like he is. I'm
just a little fat, old dike as you kindly mentioned.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
Oh no, I didn't. I didn't quite put it.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
That way, but that's the truth, and I don't. I'm not.
I'm not a celebrity, but I do get to meet
through Graham. I get to meet a lot of fabulous people,
and he was one of them. And so afterwards, are
you aren't?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Are you the couch fuller? Is it? They ring up
and say, oh, we've got Stanley Tucci and we've got
Tom Crows and we need someone in the middle. Can
can you pop in on Thursday night? Miriam?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
If if that happens, I get paid. If I'm trying
to sell a book, then I don't get paid. That's
the way works. So I don't care what you know.
Either way, I get to meet people.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Can I come back to Stanley Tucci to you about
Boris Boris Johnson? Last night he was on Channel four
in the UK being a panelist for the election coverage.
They kicked him off. Do you know why? Every time
he spoke he held up his book and they asked
him a question and he said, oh, you can read
about that in the book. And after a few.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Hours it's not selling. That's wow.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well who would buy who'd buy it? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (08:34):
Well, it's a tissue of lies from start to finish.
You know when he's lying, when he moves his lips.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Stanley Tucci, I've got to go to Stanley Tucci. Okay, right,
So if you don't know who Stanley Tucci is, he
was in Devil was Prada. He was also he was
a model back in the day. It was a looker
back in the day, and and and now he's the
thinking woman's crumpet. I think that's what helped. And he's
a cook, and he's a cook and I think he's
more well known for his cook for his cooking, I
should say, for his cooking than a then a then
(09:01):
as acting Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There were two.
There were two o's in there and there was no
there was only one. Say, the thing is, you were
on the show with him, but you mentioned to me
that you ended up going out for dinner with him afterwards.
What's it like going out for dinner with Stanley Tocci,
who's a real foodie. Does he get a bit boring
on it or no?
Speaker 3 (09:20):
No, he is never bored with the food, John shut,
I want to tell you, I want to hear it. Yeah, listen,
I said to him, let's go out for a meal.
Let's ask Graham to come with us. So we did,
and then you and McGregor rang up and said, I've
heard you're all going out for supper? Can I join?
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Who's phoned? And you and McGregor rang up on.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
On Graham Norton's phone because I don't know him.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
So how did you and McGregor hear about it?
Speaker 3 (09:49):
I don't know. Somebody must have been talking.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
So what night of the week was this?
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It was I suppose a week after we were on
the show.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
All right, so organized you and McGregor, You and McGregor
jumps and you will Stanley Tocci and Graham Norton, Right,
what sort of restaurant to go to?
Speaker 3 (10:02):
We went to the River Cafe, which is a really
nice Italian restaurant in Hammersmith by the by the the River.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Who chose the restaurant?
Speaker 3 (10:11):
I think I did because I'd always wanted to go there.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right, So Stanley comes in.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, and Graham and you and McGregor.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And who was king of the table because when you
go out there's always a king of the table, you know?
Was Stanley?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
I think I was king because I was paying for it?
That was the key.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
And what was he like when you got the meals?
Did he set there through?
Speaker 3 (10:34):
We just we chatted like you and I are. It
was wonderful.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Well, maybe we could go out for dinner.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
If you'd like. Have you are you married?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
Then you've got to bring your wife with.
Speaker 2 (10:45):
Brilliant all right. I was hoping for something on the
sod lovely to say you're Miriam and so what's playing
between now and seventeenth, the day of the concert.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Well, I've got I've got to go over the line.
So I know them, and I'm also doing a film.
As I told you, so you know, I'm a busy
old lady.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
You like Boris Johnson next should be holding.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'm nothing like him in any way whatsoever. Wash your mouth.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Out, missage saved lovely say it.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
For more from Caterbory Mornings with John McDonald. Listen live
to news talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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