John MacDonald: Is that all the PM has to say about Destiny Church?

When I saw Brian Tamaki on the news last night, he looked more pompous than ever.

Pompous - not pious.

Because he was the one who instructed his so-called followers to disrupt that drag artist’s kids show and protest at the Auckland Rainbow Parade at the weekend.

From the pictures I’ve seen, both of those events looked pretty ugly. His idea. Under his instructions. And I’ve had a gutsful of this guy. And we need to be condemning him in the strongest way possible.

Because, it seems that’s all we can do. Sadly.

They were doing a particularly vigourous haka at the end of the parade. That wasn’t free speech. That was hate.

I saw one person saying on the news that Tamaki’s Man Up crew is nothing more

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from Newstalk ZB.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
When I saw Brian Tammockey on the news last night,
I thought he looked I thought he looked more pompous
than ever pompous, not pious, because he was the one
who instructed his so called followers to disrupt that drag
artist's kids show and protest at the Auckland Rainbow Parade

(00:33):
at the weekend, and from the pictures I've seen, both
of those events looked pretty ugly. I don't think you
could say any anything different his idea, under his instructions,
and I've had a guts full of the sky and
we need to be condemning him in the strongest way

(00:53):
possible because it seems that that's all we can do. Sadly,
that's as strong as we can go. You might have
said it on the news that were doing a particularly
vigorous hacker at the end of the parade. That wasn't
free speech, that was hate. I saw one person on

(01:13):
the news saying that Tommockey's man up crew in particular,
which is part of the destiny set up. They were
saying that it's nothing more than a gang or nothing
short of a gang and should be treated that way.
This person made particular mention of the gang patch legislation,

(01:35):
saying that destinies man up guys, they ride around on
motorbike experience patches, so why aren't they included in the
gang patch band. I thought it was an interesting point,
but we can't do that. Law doesn't allow it. As
I say, all we can do is condemn it, and
that's what you should be doing. The organizer of the

(01:55):
Rainbow Parade says, there is a difference between freedom of
speech and hate speech, and what we saw at the
weekend was hate, and I completely agree that's all it was.
You know, the muppets involved in both of those things,
they weren't I know, on paper they're church people, but
they weren't church people. They weren't religious people. They were

(02:19):
full of hate or fear or whatever it is that
drives them. And the parade organizers said it was very
clear they had set out to intimidate, to bully, and
to get is He put it this way, he said,
to get their message of misinformation across. Now. I agree
that they wanted to intimidate. That's what they were there

(02:40):
to do, and I agree that they were a bunch
of bullies. I don't know about the misinformation, but because
you never get any information from these clowns, misinformation or otherwise.
And as per usual, we had weasel words from the
Prime Minister when he was asked about it yesterday, he
said all the same. You know, he respects people's rights

(03:01):
to free speech and he respects people's right to protest,
and he said Tommicky's puppets quote went too far. W
went too far. I mean, you're down right, they went
too far, even by turning up. They went too far.
What the Prime Minister should have done yesterday was condemned
Brian Tammocky and his deluded followers in the strongest way possible.

(03:24):
He didn't they said, oh, they went too far. At
least he didn't say I wouldn't have done that way.
Christ of Luxeon should have done what Auckland me at
Wayne Brown did. Wayne Brown said it was nothing short
of thuggery. That's what he said about the Destiny Church protests.
Nothing short of thuggery. I think it's a great way

(03:45):
to describe it. I even thought Green's co leader Chloe
Swarbrick was a bit light on it when she said
yesterday that the Rainbow community leads love and support, not
hateful rhetoric. Now, look, I know what she's saying, but
I want to see her condemn these people too, really
condemned them, not dance around the edges and say things.
I got. They've gone too far because for me, this

(04:10):
wasn't free speech. This wasn't people exercising their right to protest.
It was hatred. And remember that this kind of thing,
it's not new for this destiny lot or man up
blot or whatever they want to call themselves. Remember they
got all excited about that event at the Turdunger Library
and christ Church at that time when there was an
event with people and drag dressed up and dragged reading

(04:33):
stories to kids. Remember that now that that was going
to be the end of the world apparently, and there's
no stopping them. Last night, Tommick he was saying that
he doesn't think they've gone far enough yet, and he
challenged the Prime Minister. He looked directly down the barrel
of the camera and he challenged the Prime Minister to
get some fortitude and to do a Donald Trump and

(04:54):
declared that only two genders will be recognized in New
Zealand male and female. You see what I mean. He
has unfinished business, this guy. That's why I'm saying these
guys are dangerous, not because of their not necessarily because
of their Mickey Mouse beliefs, but because of the way
that they express them. You know, if someone doesn't like

(05:16):
the idea of same sex people being in relationships, they're
allowed to feel that way. If someone doesn't get all
this gender stuff and thinks that, you know, we should
go back to what it used to be in the
good old days, were just boys and girls and men
and women, they can think that too. I mean, good
luck to them. But when people take it to the
next level like we saw at the weekend, that's not okay.

(05:38):
Not okay by me anyway. I'll tell you what else
isn't okay. The fact that this outfit, this Destiny outfit,
is out there bullying people, dishing out their hatred. But
because they call themselves a church, they enjoy all the
tax benefits that come with that. I was reading this

(05:58):
morning that a few years back some Destiny Church charities
were removed from the Charities Register. They're not filing their
annual tax returns and before that happened. You might remember this.
More than seventy thousand people signed a petition calling for
Charity Services to strip the church of its tax exempt status.
That went nowhere. I've had a look at the registers
this morning and the Destiny Church, the Destiny Church, New

(06:20):
Zealand Trust is still there and there are still some
regional branches registered as a charity to including Christ Church,
which is a rought. And until the government delivers on
its promise to crack down on so called charities not
paying tax, we just have to accept that that is
what it is. But it doesn't mean we have to
sit back and let these ignorant idiots do what they want.

(06:45):
We can't make them pay tax yet anyway, not yet. Anyway.
We can't tell them to take their patches off because
technically they're not a gang. But we can stand up
and tell them to pull their bloody heads in.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
For more from Canterbory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news talks It'd Be Christ Church from nine am weekdays.
All of the podcast on iHeartRadio