There's consultation on speed limits around Christchurch's Te Kaha stadium - once again.
New Government rules are forcing the City Council to ask for public feedback for a second time.
A 30 kilometre-an-hour limit was approved for multiple surrounding streets but can no longer be implemented because of the changes.
Mayor Phil Mauger told Canterbury mornings although this feels like over-consulting, this needs to be right to ensure public safety.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from Newstalks EDB morning.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well this time tomorrow Megan Woods and Matt Doocy will
be with us for Politics Friday. I guess what we'll
be talking about. Ah, what do you think? A no? Guesses?
So Politics Friday straight after ten tomorrow morning on News
Talks EDB. Right now though, Christ's mere Field Matrix with
It's go Phil.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning Bud.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What do you think about this speed limit thing around
the stadium and the council now having to do more
consultation because government's told you can't have a thirty k
speed limit. What's your response to that?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, well you're right, and this is a government that
said thirty k sairly we can do fifty k as
of right, but the only other thing we can do
is forty K, which we're going out to consult on.
I get it that people are consulted up to the
neck with stuff we consult to go to the toilet.
That drives me insane. But we have to do it
(01:01):
this way to get forty rather than thifty because I
just feel fifty when it's real busy is going to
be be a bit much around Becky.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The thing is, though, I think it should just be fifty.
I think you should go with that because when there's
something on there'll be a lot of traffic. We will
drive slower anyway. Why do you need a limit?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This should probably right And if it is forty people
may drive over that anyway. Who's going to police it?
I don't know, but that's what the consultation will tell us.
If people think they're happy with fifty, they'll tell us
and that that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right, Take off your meryl, how just tell me what
you think? Should it be fifty? Just go go with.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh I'm not allowed to predetermine anything, John, You'll get
me shot, all right. It will go through the motions
and if it's fifty or fifty, and if it's forty.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Or forty, are you going to write one of your
famous letters to the health Minister after what we've seen
with the lack of investment and after ours healthcare in
Canterbury and the Great christ Cgeria.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
That's cool. I what we did. I met with staff
with from the health from the health sector a couple
of months ago, with the mayors from the Canterbury mal
forum discuss exactly what you're saying. I'm actually at a
function with Siman next week and I'll catch up to
and face to face there. Maybe in this in this
afternoon's budget, there will be some some assistance, but we've
(02:16):
still got to continue to advocate for it because it's
it's not good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What well, okay, pretend I'm Simmy and what will you
be telling them?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Mate?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Are you aware of how bad things are here in
christ Church and we've got to have something done otherwise
it's just the backloggers. When when we had to shut
the emergency department because there's not enough people there, that's
not enough staff to have people coming in. That's not
a good look. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
What else would you like to see in the budget
for christ j Ah?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Are any anything will be good? I see that you
know that the government are short of money, that they're
looking at cutting down a load of the place, But
any anything that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sounds like you're saying, oh, we'll take any scraps.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Thanks, Well, the word scrap didn't come out of my mouth.
But we'll work with them and see what they can
come up with. And see, we've got pages, we've got brands.
We've got all sorts of things that have already heating
our way, so anything will be good.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
All right. The situation with staff leaving the hospital at night,
it's been in the news again today and I heard
from a council of Sarah Templeton yesterday that the council
is putting more lighting in the area. What would you
like to see done?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, yes, any any lighting is good. We have to
we have it is paramount that we look after a
hospital staff when we're crook, they look after us. So
to have them wandering Ratna wandering around the streets and
having people cost them that that is not on. I
understand that the hospital es will escort staff if there
are but I reckon it should be mandatory. Whether we
(03:44):
have a little thing like an electric golf cart that
the that the hospital security have and they put three
or four nurses in there and drop them off directly
to their car, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You see. But I understand that they're doing something like
that already. Phil. So do you think maybe enough's being
done in health New Zealand does nothing more they can do?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think they're doing as much as they can. I
understand that this person was at the birthing unit and
Antigua Street and maybe the same sort of system isn't
working around there. I don't know. I know that's what's
happening at the main hospital, but I don't know what's
happening around there.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
All right, you made all the right noises, Phil, But
does it sound like you intend to do anymore to
try and help these people?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, what one thing that's not going to excuse me,
go on. One thing that's not going to help at
all is very soon ninety percent of the free car
parks and Antiguou Street and vanishing because they're putting a
cycle way down there, and that doesn't help the situation
because that's right outside the birthing unit. But and I
know other councilors have been talking about this about using
(04:48):
Paracuori's car park at nighttime. Now we cannot. We don't
own it yet. The day we do own it, between
nine o'clock at night and eight o'clock in the morning,
it will never be full. Whether we can work with
the hospital and have it that they have their little
golf cart going back to some Fords and nurses get
free parking in there at nighttime when no one else
(05:09):
is using it. That might be something that i'd certainly
look at anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
All Right, there's been a bit of talk this week
about shopping trolleys and councilor Sarah Templeton, who also wants
your job later in the year. Yeah, she thinks it's
okay because thirteen percent of adults stone of a driver's license,
and she says that's the only way some people can
get their grocery time. Do you think it's stealing or
not taking a trolley away?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Saddly, we don't agree with everything that each other says,
which is a democracy, but this is certainly not the
biggest issue that council faces right at the moment. But
I feel it's theft. You know, if supermarkets lose, say
a thousand trolleys per annum, where do you think the
cost of that goes. It goes onto the cost of
milk and bread and stuff like that. So it's their
people should be respectful and not take them off the
(05:57):
supermarket property.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you agree with the council Aaron Qan who thinks
some sort of by law action is needed.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
By laws, by laws, I know where he's coming from.
By laws a pain in the backside. Sadly, if you
don't want to have supermarket police, so to speak, standing
on the boundary saying you can't take these there's got
to be some people just got to be respectful and
not take other people's profities.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And not be and not and not be encouraged to
do so. I'm given the license to do so by
elected counselors.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, you've got another question for Michael. That was?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That was and Phil said, yes, you did right, John,
All right, how are you going to get on with
people moving around or moving out of the specific areas
in the council building, including you guys. You can't have
your council meetings and your usual chamber.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, we're where is you having our meeting this morning
at Fenalton Service Center, which is because we can live
stream it there. We can't go other places. One of
the best thing is that we we found out that
the building might be a wee bit compromise, and so
we're getting a report done. It's safety as param out
(07:06):
to all the people that work there, all the people
that come in. Now, if we knew something was wrong
and something fell down, we would be in the gun
for the rest of our lives. It would have been terrible,
so so for a cautionary measure, we pulled people back
from the edge of the building with us. We issue
is in three weeks time we will get a report
and I would say there's a more average chance we'll
(07:28):
move back in. If something has to be repaired, we'll
repair it. But at the stage, better be safe than sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Which edge is it on? Fill? Because I know there's
a big construction project right next door to you, guys.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, no, no, no, A long time ago, a long
time ago, before the earthquake, we a bit got glued
on the side of it, on the northern side, the
whole northern face of the building.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right, okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, all right,
I'll let you get around town. You'll be doing a
bit more traveling with these meetings off site, and we'll
catch up. We'll catch up beginning in a fortnite.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Thanks Phil, Yeah, cheers, Mate, Sah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
For more from Cabory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news Talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from Newstalks EDB morning.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well this time tomorrow Megan Woods and Matt Doocy will
be with us for Politics Friday. I guess what we'll
be talking about. Ah, what do you think? A no? Guesses?
So Politics Friday straight after ten tomorrow morning on News
Talks EDB. Right now though, Christ's mere Field Matrix with
It's go Phil.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Good morning Bud.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
What do you think about this speed limit thing around
the stadium and the council now having to do more
consultation because government's told you can't have a thirty k
speed limit. What's your response to that?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, well you're right, and this is a government that
said thirty k sairly we can do fifty k as
of right, but the only other thing we can do
is forty K, which we're going out to consult on.
I get it that people are consulted up to the
neck with stuff we consult to go to the toilet.
That drives me insane. But we have to do it
(01:01):
this way to get forty rather than thifty because I
just feel fifty when it's real busy is going to
be be a bit much around Becky.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
The thing is, though, I think it should just be fifty.
I think you should go with that because when there's
something on there'll be a lot of traffic. We will
drive slower anyway. Why do you need a limit?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
This should probably right And if it is forty people
may drive over that anyway. Who's going to police it?
I don't know, but that's what the consultation will tell us.
If people think they're happy with fifty, they'll tell us
and that that's what it'll be.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Right, Take off your meryl, how just tell me what
you think? Should it be fifty? Just go go with.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Oh I'm not allowed to predetermine anything, John, You'll get
me shot, all right. It will go through the motions
and if it's fifty or fifty, and if it's forty.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Or forty, are you going to write one of your
famous letters to the health Minister after what we've seen
with the lack of investment and after ours healthcare in
Canterbury and the Great christ Cgeria.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
That's cool. I what we did. I met with staff
with from the health from the health sector a couple
of months ago, with the mayors from the Canterbury mal
forum discuss exactly what you're saying. I'm actually at a
function with Siman next week and I'll catch up to
and face to face there. Maybe in this in this
afternoon's budget, there will be some some assistance, but we've
(02:16):
still got to continue to advocate for it because it's
it's not good.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
What well, okay, pretend I'm Simmy and what will you
be telling them?
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Mate?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Are you aware of how bad things are here in
christ Church and we've got to have something done otherwise
it's just the backloggers. When when we had to shut
the emergency department because there's not enough people there, that's
not enough staff to have people coming in. That's not
a good look. It's terrible.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
What else would you like to see in the budget
for christ j Ah?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Are any anything will be good? I see that you
know that the government are short of money, that they're
looking at cutting down a load of the place, But
any anything that.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Sounds like you're saying, oh, we'll take any scraps.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Thanks, Well, the word scrap didn't come out of my mouth.
But we'll work with them and see what they can
come up with. And see, we've got pages, we've got brands.
We've got all sorts of things that have already heating
our way, so anything will be good.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
All right. The situation with staff leaving the hospital at night,
it's been in the news again today and I heard
from a council of Sarah Templeton yesterday that the council
is putting more lighting in the area. What would you
like to see done?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, yes, any any lighting is good. We have to
we have it is paramount that we look after a
hospital staff when we're crook, they look after us. So
to have them wandering Ratna wandering around the streets and
having people cost them that that is not on. I
understand that the hospital es will escort staff if there
are but I reckon it should be mandatory. Whether we
(03:44):
have a little thing like an electric golf cart that
the that the hospital security have and they put three
or four nurses in there and drop them off directly
to their car, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
You see. But I understand that they're doing something like
that already. Phil. So do you think maybe enough's being
done in health New Zealand does nothing more they can do?
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I think they're doing as much as they can. I
understand that this person was at the birthing unit and
Antigua Street and maybe the same sort of system isn't
working around there. I don't know. I know that's what's
happening at the main hospital, but I don't know what's
happening around there.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
All right, you made all the right noises, Phil, But
does it sound like you intend to do anymore to
try and help these people?
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Well, what one thing that's not going to excuse me,
go on. One thing that's not going to help at
all is very soon ninety percent of the free car
parks and Antiguou Street and vanishing because they're putting a
cycle way down there, and that doesn't help the situation
because that's right outside the birthing unit. But and I
know other councilors have been talking about this about using
(04:48):
Paracuori's car park at nighttime. Now we cannot. We don't
own it yet. The day we do own it, between
nine o'clock at night and eight o'clock in the morning,
it will never be full. Whether we can work with
the hospital and have it that they have their little
golf cart going back to some Fords and nurses get
free parking in there at nighttime when no one else
(05:09):
is using it. That might be something that i'd certainly
look at anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
All Right, there's been a bit of talk this week
about shopping trolleys and councilor Sarah Templeton, who also wants
your job later in the year. Yeah, she thinks it's
okay because thirteen percent of adults stone of a driver's license,
and she says that's the only way some people can
get their grocery time. Do you think it's stealing or
not taking a trolley away?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Saddly, we don't agree with everything that each other says,
which is a democracy, but this is certainly not the
biggest issue that council faces right at the moment. But
I feel it's theft. You know, if supermarkets lose, say
a thousand trolleys per annum, where do you think the
cost of that goes. It goes onto the cost of
milk and bread and stuff like that. So it's their
people should be respectful and not take them off the
(05:57):
supermarket property.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Do you agree with the council Aaron Qan who thinks
some sort of by law action is needed.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
By laws, by laws, I know where he's coming from.
By laws a pain in the backside. Sadly, if you
don't want to have supermarket police, so to speak, standing
on the boundary saying you can't take these there's got
to be some people just got to be respectful and
not take other people's profities.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
And not be and not and not be encouraged to
do so. I'm given the license to do so by
elected counselors.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah, you've got another question for Michael. That was?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
That was and Phil said, yes, you did right, John,
All right, how are you going to get on with
people moving around or moving out of the specific areas
in the council building, including you guys. You can't have
your council meetings and your usual chamber.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Yes, we're where is you having our meeting this morning
at Fenalton Service Center, which is because we can live
stream it there. We can't go other places. One of
the best thing is that we we found out that
the building might be a wee bit compromise, and so
we're getting a report done. It's safety as param out
(07:06):
to all the people that work there, all the people
that come in. Now, if we knew something was wrong
and something fell down, we would be in the gun
for the rest of our lives. It would have been terrible,
so so for a cautionary measure, we pulled people back
from the edge of the building with us. We issue
is in three weeks time we will get a report
and I would say there's a more average chance we'll
(07:28):
move back in. If something has to be repaired, we'll
repair it. But at the stage, better be safe than sorry.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Which edge is it on? Fill? Because I know there's
a big construction project right next door to you, guys.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Yeah, no, no, no, A long time ago, a long
time ago, before the earthquake, we a bit got glued
on the side of it, on the northern side, the
whole northern face of the building.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right, okay, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, all right, all right,
I'll let you get around town. You'll be doing a
bit more traveling with these meetings off site, and we'll
catch up. We'll catch up beginning in a fortnite.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Thanks Phil, Yeah, cheers, Mate, Sah.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
For more from Cabory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news Talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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