Canterbury police say they'll still serve rural communities under a plan to centralise officers.
They're mid-way through two weeks of internal consultation on a plan to shift some officers from smaller rural stations, to larger 24/7 hubs in Rolleston and Rangiora.
District Commander Superintendent, Tony Hill, told John MacDonald rural liaison officers will still work with smaller areas, and police will respond and come in from one of the hubs.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So police bosses are so concerned Aaron Canterbury, that people
are getting the wrong end of the stick about their
changes to rural policing that the district commander has asked
to come on the show to explain himself and to
explain what they're doing. This is ahead of those public meetings.
Culvin and Leiston tonight in one in hand the springs
tomorrow and Superintendent tiny Hill is with us now morning, Tiny,
(00:35):
good morning. Why are you going into damaged control with us? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, we are concerned that there is misinformation out there
about what we are proposing. We think our proposal we
have for our changing our structures is actually going to
move us into having a structure that will support us
to the policing better than for now and into the future.
I mean that proposal is to have for an uplifting
frontline numbers and row policing numbers and use offending our
(01:03):
staff as well, so that those are the things important
to us and what we're here in community, so that
want us to do very well. Act.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So what you're saying is you're talking about headcount, But
what does that mean for individual locations you like Colvid
and Least and Handle the Springs. What's the impact.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, we are proposing to change some of those roles
and what we know from those places at almost about
two thirds of the service delivery that we provide now
is actually about placing our roads. We've got them focused
on during rule. We're proposing the actually we're going to
have a shift in there to focus more on keeping
our roads so we know for the her and for example,
seven people died on our roads earlier last year and
it's a tragedy and we want to do something about that. Right, Right,
(01:43):
is the.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Changing that is the Colvid and station being closed, not
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In fact, the current list of stations that are open
and the district now will remain the same.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What's happening, what's happening in Leiston.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, same with Lithan as well. We're not proposing to
close that station, Ham the Springs. Ham in the Springs
doesn't change, and they're actually the proposal. There's no impact
on terms of the service delivery for him the Springs
all that's a location that's too far away for our
front line to get to. A reasonable time. So we'll
stick with our tried and trusted model for a tried
and trusted model for out you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So you stay, you stay, COVID and at least aren't closing.
But will they be staffed with staff based in those locations.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's the model will change in terms of so we're
moving to a model we're going to propose them to
have rurally aison officers, so that that's the staff who
will concentrate on doing that problem solving that communities love
us to do. So if you've got someone that's moving
in the community or something that's popped up community that's
not right for it, you need please to come and
work with you and other organizations to solve that. We're
not proposing to change that service currently provide.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But so what you are talking about is you're going
to keep the structures, the police station structures and COVID
and and least them and then people are just going
to go from elsewhere to work in them.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not necessarily, I mean that's part of the process. We
need to work with our people who currently work there
to see if that's what they want to do. In
terms of the changing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Role, well, hold on that what they mean they'd be
asking you, is that in the proposal?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's the proposal is to dis establish those positions in Commonden,
But also we're establishing more road policing roles right there
in the area.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and where where will those where will those road
patrol roles be based?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, ideally if the staff out there would like to
move into those roles, and that's what will happen. We're
not asking them to leave the community. We just want
to make to make sure that they are reflecting and
doing with the work that we asked them to do.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What are those liaison staff that you talked about, what
were those roles?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And so the rural liaison officers is a role that's
very similar to what our role stuff doing now, but
it just takes the requirement of working shift work, being
on call often. We can still use them for that,
but by and LARTs they're going to be our problem
solvers in the community and we know from our demand
it's currently occurring in those areas that what we're proposing
will meet the demand for those services right now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Will they be sworn officers, yes, so, well, they.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Still remain as service sworn officers. There's still level one
train stuff. That means they can still go to any
of those critical jobs if they're working at the time,
so that all the capabilities about what our front line
TIEFS safety team members have, but they can provide that
additional to more time problem solving that currently they can't
do as much.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Of right so they won't necessarily be based on the
areas that they're working in.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So for cold and we're proposing that their positions based
in Wikuli, which is only a short distance down the road,
and provide that service too cold and it means that
you know that we will have in row policing uplift,
but it also means that we know our road policing
stuff now do a ten jobs at our front line staff.
Do let me just a model we can shift between
the two.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let me put it in a layperson's way. It sounds
to me like you're going to have a whole lot
of traffic cops who will be called to other jobs
if required.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So we are shifting there they're focus to road policing. Well,
it's a proposal. I'm just want to reiterate these proposal
because as I said earlier, that's what the almost two
thirds of the demand is actually about keeping the road.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
To and these will they'll be based in Rodeston and
Rung the Order, is that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, So there'll be an uplift in the frontline numbers
for rang Eura and Rolliston. But we haven't in our
structually we haven't decided where those positions will be for
road policing because we want to leave the process to
tell us exactly where they should be and our stuff
to consider these roles.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So if someone's just gott in touch saying so it's
road policing not policing, that's what it is, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well not necessarily. I mean we're still providing the service
there to the really officers, so they're not going to
see that they're not policing services other than road policing
security there, but also want to come back and reiterate
that that's where the em they're demanders.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So what do you say to someone living in Great Valley,
for example, who might be concerned that their nearest police
station is going to be in our way and rung
the Order.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, actually most of the services we're providing into there
come from that. The still staff and Hamna Springs still
staff and are and amble who'll still provide them with
a service, right, and so they call under the middle
life of service. Actually, the model is more often than
not that services coming to them from the start. Who
are patrolling twenty four to seven in the area.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but these liaison officers you talk about, they're working
nine to five. What happens after.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Ours, Well, that's where the emergency response comes. And that's
why we're having an uplift of numbers or the North
Canterbury PST team so we'll be able to respond.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So the emergency response will come from further away.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And again that's also the model that we're largely providing
to them now. But further you get away from the
center though, the model will go back to and remains
the same as what it is now. We'll either call
out staff or will contemplate sending a staff member out
there to work alongside it. We're far past the model
where our staff are being called to events. We're there
one up anymore. For our staff safety, we tend to
(06:50):
try and put them too up as often as we
possibly can.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, farmers that they've been stirring the pot here a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Bit, Well, it's not helpful that we haven't been asked
for a viewpoint from us, and I think it's and
finners to us. They could have come to us and say, hey,
what are you opposing and will mean for our community,
because we could have given them some assurance about we
still want to provide that great service we do to
the real community and that won't change under this model.
We believe that our proposal will meet their demands and us.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Right now, I've got a five to go a ten seconds.
But is this consultation with just staff or is this
official consultation with communities as well.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, it's a consultation with our stuff, but we are
inviting feedback from the public and we're getting a lot
already just telling us about how they feel about these changes.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, appreciate your time. Thank you. That's Superintendent Tony Hill,
who was District Commander for the Cannoby Police.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
For more from Canterbory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Canterbury Mornings podcast with John McDonald
from News TALKSB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So police bosses are so concerned Aaron Canterbury, that people
are getting the wrong end of the stick about their
changes to rural policing that the district commander has asked
to come on the show to explain himself and to
explain what they're doing. This is ahead of those public meetings.
Culvin and Leiston tonight in one in hand the springs
tomorrow and Superintendent tiny Hill is with us now morning, Tiny,
(00:35):
good morning. Why are you going into damaged control with us? Now?
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Well, we are concerned that there is misinformation out there
about what we are proposing. We think our proposal we
have for our changing our structures is actually going to
move us into having a structure that will support us
to the policing better than for now and into the future.
I mean that proposal is to have for an uplifting
frontline numbers and row policing numbers and use offending our
(01:03):
staff as well, so that those are the things important
to us and what we're here in community, so that
want us to do very well. Act.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
So what you're saying is you're talking about headcount, But
what does that mean for individual locations you like Colvid
and Least and Handle the Springs. What's the impact.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, we are proposing to change some of those roles
and what we know from those places at almost about
two thirds of the service delivery that we provide now
is actually about placing our roads. We've got them focused
on during rule. We're proposing the actually we're going to
have a shift in there to focus more on keeping
our roads so we know for the her and for example,
seven people died on our roads earlier last year and
it's a tragedy and we want to do something about that. Right, Right,
(01:43):
is the.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Changing that is the Colvid and station being closed, not
at all.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
In fact, the current list of stations that are open
and the district now will remain the same.
Speaker 2 (01:55):
What's happening, what's happening in Leiston.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
No, same with Lithan as well. We're not proposing to
close that station, Ham the Springs. Ham in the Springs
doesn't change, and they're actually the proposal. There's no impact
on terms of the service delivery for him the Springs
all that's a location that's too far away for our
front line to get to. A reasonable time. So we'll
stick with our tried and trusted model for a tried
and trusted model for out you.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
So you stay, you stay, COVID and at least aren't closing.
But will they be staffed with staff based in those locations.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's the model will change in terms of so we're
moving to a model we're going to propose them to
have rurally aison officers, so that that's the staff who
will concentrate on doing that problem solving that communities love
us to do. So if you've got someone that's moving
in the community or something that's popped up community that's
not right for it, you need please to come and
work with you and other organizations to solve that. We're
not proposing to change that service currently provide.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But so what you are talking about is you're going
to keep the structures, the police station structures and COVID
and and least them and then people are just going
to go from elsewhere to work in them.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Not necessarily, I mean that's part of the process. We
need to work with our people who currently work there
to see if that's what they want to do. In
terms of the changing.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Role, well, hold on that what they mean they'd be
asking you, is that in the proposal?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
It's the proposal is to dis establish those positions in Commonden,
But also we're establishing more road policing roles right there
in the area.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, and where where will those where will those road
patrol roles be based?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Well, ideally if the staff out there would like to
move into those roles, and that's what will happen. We're
not asking them to leave the community. We just want
to make to make sure that they are reflecting and
doing with the work that we asked them to do.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
What are those liaison staff that you talked about, what
were those roles?
Speaker 3 (03:37):
And so the rural liaison officers is a role that's
very similar to what our role stuff doing now, but
it just takes the requirement of working shift work, being
on call often. We can still use them for that,
but by and LARTs they're going to be our problem
solvers in the community and we know from our demand
it's currently occurring in those areas that what we're proposing
will meet the demand for those services right now.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Will they be sworn officers, yes, so, well, they.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Still remain as service sworn officers. There's still level one
train stuff. That means they can still go to any
of those critical jobs if they're working at the time,
so that all the capabilities about what our front line
TIEFS safety team members have, but they can provide that
additional to more time problem solving that currently they can't
do as much.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Of right so they won't necessarily be based on the
areas that they're working in.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
So for cold and we're proposing that their positions based
in Wikuli, which is only a short distance down the road,
and provide that service too cold and it means that
you know that we will have in row policing uplift,
but it also means that we know our road policing
stuff now do a ten jobs at our front line staff.
Do let me just a model we can shift between
the two.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Let me put it in a layperson's way. It sounds
to me like you're going to have a whole lot
of traffic cops who will be called to other jobs
if required.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
So we are shifting there they're focus to road policing. Well,
it's a proposal. I'm just want to reiterate these proposal
because as I said earlier, that's what the almost two
thirds of the demand is actually about keeping the road.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
To and these will they'll be based in Rodeston and
Rung the Order, is that.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Right, So there'll be an uplift in the frontline numbers
for rang Eura and Rolliston. But we haven't in our
structually we haven't decided where those positions will be for
road policing because we want to leave the process to
tell us exactly where they should be and our stuff
to consider these roles.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Right.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So if someone's just gott in touch saying so it's
road policing not policing, that's what it is, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Well not necessarily. I mean we're still providing the service
there to the really officers, so they're not going to
see that they're not policing services other than road policing
security there, but also want to come back and reiterate
that that's where the em they're demanders.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
So what do you say to someone living in Great Valley,
for example, who might be concerned that their nearest police
station is going to be in our way and rung
the Order.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Well, actually most of the services we're providing into there
come from that. The still staff and Hamna Springs still
staff and are and amble who'll still provide them with
a service, right, and so they call under the middle
life of service. Actually, the model is more often than
not that services coming to them from the start. Who
are patrolling twenty four to seven in the area.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yeah, but these liaison officers you talk about, they're working
nine to five. What happens after.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Ours, Well, that's where the emergency response comes. And that's
why we're having an uplift of numbers or the North
Canterbury PST team so we'll be able to respond.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
So the emergency response will come from further away.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
And again that's also the model that we're largely providing
to them now. But further you get away from the
center though, the model will go back to and remains
the same as what it is now. We'll either call
out staff or will contemplate sending a staff member out
there to work alongside it. We're far past the model
where our staff are being called to events. We're there
one up anymore. For our staff safety, we tend to
(06:50):
try and put them too up as often as we
possibly can.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Okay, farmers that they've been stirring the pot here a.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Bit, Well, it's not helpful that we haven't been asked
for a viewpoint from us, and I think it's and
finners to us. They could have come to us and say, hey,
what are you opposing and will mean for our community,
because we could have given them some assurance about we
still want to provide that great service we do to
the real community and that won't change under this model.
We believe that our proposal will meet their demands and us.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Right now, I've got a five to go a ten seconds.
But is this consultation with just staff or is this
official consultation with communities as well.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Well, it's a consultation with our stuff, but we are
inviting feedback from the public and we're getting a lot
already just telling us about how they feel about these changes.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
All right, appreciate your time. Thank you. That's Superintendent Tony Hill,
who was District Commander for the Cannoby Police.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
For more from Canterbory Mornings with John McDonald, listen live
to news talks It'd be christ Church from nine am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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