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Morn in a good morning, Welcome to News Talks EDB.
Jack Tame with you through the midday Test Day All
Blacks Day, First Test of twenty twenty four. I cannot
believe this. The English team has not played in New
Zealand for a decade. That is crazy, isn't it? Cannot
wait for seven oh five this evening We're going to
be counting down to that all important first AB's Test
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under Raiser Forsyth Bar Stadium, Tonedin tonight. Of course we'll
catch up with our sport I get his thoughts on
that very very shortly. Our feature interview after ten o'clock
this morning is none other than Kiwi music legend Julia Dean's.
You know how she's been producing heaps of solo music
over the last couple of years, like beautiful, kind of
amazing solo project. Well, she's just decided that she and
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the guys from Fur Patrol are going to get back
together for a couple of live shows. It is more
than twenty years since their first album, but it's going
to be so good to see them performing. So she'll
be with us in studio after ten this morning. Right now,
it's eight minutes past nine.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Jack Team.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
It was Rude climb Past, good old friend of the show,
our man in the garden, Rude kliin Past, who inspired
me ever since my fiasco with the trees in my backyard,
in which I inadvertently oversaw a much much much more
aggressive winter prune than intended, and which, for the sake
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of marital harmony, we need not re litigate this morning,
I've been looking for opportunities to make amends to mother
Nature at my place, along with my regularly nuttallid rat trap.
Rude suggested that what the native birds had lost in
terms of a leafy canopy at my place, I might
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make up to them with a bit of sugar water.
Native birds, it would seem, are kind of like school children,
or honestly kind of like me, and that the quickest
way to their hearts is through their stomachs, and the
more sugary the incentive, the better. So I bought one
from Predator Free New Zealand a pecka pecker bird feeder
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with a dripper bottle up the top for the neck
de feeders and little attachment for hanging energy balls or
bits of fruit underneath it. Winter is the time when
the native birds benefit the most from a bit of
supplementary feed and so, you know, putting a bit of
food in the feeder was obvious. I reckon that would
probably pleads the sparrows, but it wasn't at all clear
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to me how the native nectar feeders were going to
work out that the bottle was dripping out the Avian
version of fanta. It was that sweet. I had no idea.
You know, there's like a little metal attachment, a little
metal nozzle. How would they know that was the place
to go? So I spent a day or two googling
various theories and methods for attracting them before the bottle arrived,
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Although as it turned out, I needn't have worried. The
moment I strung it up and turned my back on
the feeder, it was swarmed by an incredible flock of toho,
you know, silver eyes, The pudgy little cuties swarmed the
feeders platform and pecked at the feeder nozzle, six or
eight at a time. They squabble, with more queuing up
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in the nearby plum tree, waiting to gorge. In the
few weeks that I've had it, I have become less
concerned about attracting birds and more worried that somehow I've
created a dependency. As well as the silver eyes, every
Toui in Auckland must have had the word. They swoop down, irridescent, gorgeous, greedy,
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The toho scramble. I've no idea what the record is,
and I don't know. Maybe you can outdo me. But
at one point yesterday I counted no fewer than six
tui in my backyard, six all of them lined up
to guzzle down the sugar water. It's a good thing
that tui don't have teeth to brush, But can too
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he get diabetes. Maybe it's middle age. I don't know,
Maybe it's maybe it's a weird form of nesting. I
just cannot believe what joy it's giving me to sit
down and watch the native birds squabbling over sugar water,
the toho, the silver eyes like furry little ping pong balls,
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the toui bullies. But such beautiful bullies. My feeder is
not bringing back a dense tree canopy to my backyard,
but it has certainly brought back a bit of life.
Jack ninety two to ninety two is the text number
if you're gonna fixus a messon this morning. Don't forget
that standard text costs apply. You can email me as well,
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Jacketnewstalk's HEDB dot co dot NZ. I'm gonna keep you
up to speed with the latest Euro So at the moment,
Portugal and France are into the second part of extra
time nil all in that game. I got up really
early this morning to watch Spain Germany, which was such
a good game of football. It's just it is a
golden time for sport at the moment, right and international sport.
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You've got the Euro's first all backs test of the season.
Of course, you've got the Mighty Warriors as well as that,
you got the Tour de France, the Olympics starting in
a couple of weeks. It never ends. Kevin Melon's gonna
kick us off next thirteen minutes past nine. I'm Jack Taman,
this is news dogs. He'd be.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with
Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack and bep you it on
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Speaker 2 (06:10):
Mb Ah, Jack, where'd you get your bird feeder this morning?
How amazing is that? Says Susi Jack, What was your
bird feeder brand? So I went on to Peter Ta Free,
New Zealand, and I got a Pecker Pecker bird feeder.
And I'm not being paid to promote it or anything.
I just bought one. It's pretty good because you attach
it to one of those warratars, you know, the metal
things you can stick in the ground. You're attached it
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to one of those, and it's important that you get
high off the ground. You kind of want about a
meter and a half or higher off the ground so
that cats and rats and that kind of thing don't
get up there and disturb it. Jack, you could publish poems.
I saw the description of what you were reading, says Steve.
That's very kind. Steve might be a bit of a stretch.
I don't think anyone needs me to get too lyrical anyway.
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Ninety two ninety two is our text number. If you
can beat six to twoy I'd love to hear from you.
I've actually put a video of it for all of
the non believers out there, I've put a video taken
from my taken from my window looking outside at all
the who he lined up yesterday. I put it on
our Facebook page, So go to Jack Tame on Facebook
and you can see that. If you like, Kevin Milne
is with us this morning. Kill to Kevin. Oh, hang
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on again, kill to Kevin.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Yeah. Don't you think those tooy look kind of like criminals? Yeah?
When they come and to drink, they're always looking behind
them and around them and genuinely make sure nobody's sneaking
up on them.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Totally. Well, although the silver eyes are probably more twitchy
in that they know that they're going to get shoved
out of the way by too it. You know, it's
actually amazing. It's only this This is going to sound
like an crearly dumb observation, but it was only upon
setting up the bird feeder that I really appreciated the
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difference in size between some birds and that a too
he is probably like six or seven silver eyes, Like
you could fit six or seven silver eyes and a toy,
which is a really big discrepancy. So you can see
why the too he's able to, you know, it's top
of the pecking order, very literal pecking order. Yeah, but
it's interesting.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Reading a book at the moment called bird Watching, and
you know it says that the silver eye is only
a fifth weight of a mouse.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Wow. Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, there's such a cue. I
love them because the kind of they're like little you know,
they're like little ping pong poles, but they're all kind
of slightly shabby at the stuff as well. They're very
very cute. I've got a real affinity for the little
for the little silver rise. But Kevin, you have had
a little bit of an issue with your calendar for
this week.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Yeah, Now, why is it that printed on my SPCA
twenty twenty four calendar is, for example, September the twenty
third South Canterbury Anniversary Day? Useless information? Why on January
the two does it say, seriously, day after New Year's Day?
Surely you know that. But on on Saturday, the sixth
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of July, that's today, it doesn't tell me that the
New Zealand All Blacks are playing England in the first
International of the Razor Era. As a result, what's now
written on our calendar for the night is Guru of
Chai seven pm. Guru of Chai is a play put
on by the Indian Ink Theater Company, the most innovative,
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fantastic theater group in the country. Christian's Dairy, etc. I've
talked about them before. It'll be brilliant, But Jack, I'd
rather be sitting in front of my Telly tonight at
seven pm watching the All Blacks than going to a play. Sure,
I'll record the game, I'll watch it when I get home,
but it's not the same. Call me a linear, constricted boomer,
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but home test matches needed to be watched live.
Speaker 5 (09:47):
It goes without.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Saying that it wasn't me that booked for the play.
My wife did. But it's not her fault. When she
made the booking, the little square that says six July
was blank. How was she to know it was a
momentous night. She simply said, Kevin, do you want to
go and see Indian Innslander's play? And I said yeah.
Had she been the perfect woman, she might have said, darling, No.
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She never said through that and there she might have said, darling,
it's on a Saturday night in the middle of winter.
A check. There's not a Matt Test Match on it
or the Warriors in factor are both, but that's a
lot to ask someone who's not invested in neither. So
can I say to the SBCA, you do a great job,
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but before you put out next year's calendar, don't bother
calling every regional council for their anniversary day chet instead
to the New Zealand at Rugby Union.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Yes, yes, that is a very very good point. I
wonder if with digital calendar, is there something you can
click whereby it puts on all of those kind of
key sporting events. There must be someone must have invented that, right,
because I get caught out by exactly the same thing
from time to time. But you know what, Kevin, I'm
going to give you a hack. And this is very
cheeky of me. Yeah, you know you don't have to go. No,
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you've bought a ticket, but you've supported the Kopappa.
Speaker 4 (11:15):
My daughter's actually just the rived home affectedly, right, and
maybe some negotiations.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Yeah, you see, I think it would be a great
opportunity a mother daughter bonding evening, you know. And you
have that that cough of yours has been getting a
little bit more harsh over the last couple of days.
I think the responsible thing to do, Kevin might be just,
you know, not for you, but for the community, you know, just.
Speaker 4 (11:40):
I think there are some possibilities in that regard. Yeah.
On the other hand, I hear it's a brilliant, brilliant play. Yeah, yeah,
very brilliant.
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Well, whoever goes along from the Mellon household, I hope
you enjoyed this evening. Thank you very much, Kevin. That
is Kevin Miln. Thank you for your feedback as well. Well,
it turns out my six too, he apparently, isn't remotely
impressive at all. Jack. I feed my bird life here
in Milton Kluther. I've got wax eyes, a silver eyes,
bell birds. My record for the twe family is seventeen
feeding it at one time every day. I have a
minimum of ten, says Kathy. Okay, that's pretty impressive, Kathy.
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How about this, Jack, I have a row of Cody
trees and have up to thirty two e feeding it once. Really, thirty,
that's astonishing, isn't it. Susie reckons she's got the same
thing up to thirty at my place. You get the
core fire in as well. This time of year keeps
the towy going okay, Well, apparently my six too is
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not remotely impressive, but thank you very much.
Speaker 6 (12:40):
Getting your weekend started.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
It's Saturday morning with Jack Team on News talksb.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
FO ten o'clock this morning. We're didn't catch up with
our cook Nicki Wex, who has just released her new book.
You might have seen A Quiet Kitchen her previous book,
which is just such like an amazing concept for a cookbook,
but also like a really kind of personal creative expression
from Nicki. The thing we love about Nikki is she
is so authentically Nikki, like not only on this show,
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but in everything she does. And this is what she's achieved,
I think in more from A Quiet Kitchen, which is
her new books, it's like a mix of recipes but
as well as that's some kind of life lessons and
her philosophy around different things in life. And it's a
really really amazing read. So she's gonna be with us
before ten o'clock this morning. Really looking forward to catching
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up with her. Jack Tell Kevin don't miss Guru of Chai.
It is a brilliant, brilliant play. Honestly, all Black tests
a dime a dozen. Guru of Chai is a rear gem,
says Clive. One way that Sporto thinks about that, Sev.
If it was up to you, Guru of Chai the
theater this evening or the all Blacks in England in
Alto or for the first time in more than a decade.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Yeah, an intriguing prospect, Jack, maybe if there was a.
Speaker 8 (13:56):
The play.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
It's not like you, Sev.
Speaker 7 (14:00):
Yeah, no, no, no, no, All Blacks all day long in
Dneda At the moment the day is Chile but sunny,
although with the roof for south by a stadium doesn't
really matter. It's going to be a cold evening but
obviously firm underfoot. There'll be but a jew on this
indoor surface. But the game I'm pretty sure is going
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to be played at a fair clip under this new
coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, really interesting selections this week. And saw your story
with Boden Barrett last night, who seemed to take being
benched pretty well. I thought, very professionally, what are you
making of Stephen petersbet at fifteen.
Speaker 7 (14:34):
Exciting He had an injury through a fair chunk of
the Super Rugby season with the Blues, but came back
and played very, very well. In the playoffs, so excited
to see him at fallback. He's a playmaker, he's an
attacking player. I'm pretty sure the English will kick a
fair amount down to the back three, so Reese, the
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Layer and seven Perafeeda will have a busy night, probably
under the high ball, but that then means they can counterattack.
I just having witnessed a couple of training runs this week, Jack,
I think the All Blacks under Scott Robertson and his
coach and crew are going to play or try to
play it an even faster pace than what we've seen
the last couple of years. The poor handling drills they
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were doing were quite extreme and running between drills and
they just seemed to be a real pace around the
whole training session or the training sessions this week, So
look look for the game to be played at pace tonight.
Although England, as we know, you've always got to be
wary of them. They've got they can at times have
stifling defense, and they've got a good forward pack, a
lot of experience there. So really looking forward to this,
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I think primarily because Jacks, I'm sure you and your
listeners are as well. It's it's Scott Robertson's first game,
and we just distill a fair amount of intrigue about
how this all black side is going to play under him.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Yeah, yeah, it's going to be interesting. You cannot wait
for seven this evening.
Speaker 7 (15:52):
What a sporting weekend.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
It's a long it's a long haul for the for
those of us who are up this morning for the
first game. So I got a Germany.
Speaker 7 (16:00):
The Germans are out, they lost to Spain.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Portugal.
Speaker 7 (16:03):
France have about a minute to play in extra time,
so it looks head for a penalty shootout between the
Portuguese and.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
All right, at this point of the game. Is at
this point of the game? Is that right now? That
Spain broke the deadlock against the Gyms this morning, So yeah,
a couple of minutes left and then otherwise we're headed
to penalty.
Speaker 7 (16:18):
I'm sure nervous times for Ronald. I just got dragged
down in the penalty box, but it wasn't a penalty,
so that was for the French. You've got Lulu Sun
doing remarkable feats at Wimbledon. Yeah, tennis player born in
the Deep South and now representing New Zealand going through
to the what is it the Force Round now and
then you've got the Warriors playing this evening.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
It's all on mate.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
Yeah, no, it's an awesome, awesome sporting weekend and very
much looking forward to everything. Just after seven this evening.
Thank you very much, Sam. Thank you for your feedback
as well. Jack. Just make sure that with the bird
feeder you keep it clean. You can introduce botulism and
the silver eyes will be the first to go down. Yeah,
that's that's true. I have been washing it every day,
or maybe I missed one day, but almost every day.
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And I know that that's really really especially when all
of those birds are going and feeding and it's as
popular as it is. Jack. I raised a wax eye
baby that had obviously fallen from a nest and high wind,
had no feathers. It was so tiny, but I got
him through and he was delightful. I finally released him
by putting a cage in a tree close by with
the door propped open so that he could come and
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go if he wished. He finally went back to the wild.
That was so satisfying. That's lovely. They're just they're real,
A little cutis a It's funny how we call them
wax eyes, silver eyes or Toho. You know, like there's
three names for one bird. It's slightly confusing, isn't it. Anyway?
If you want to get in touch, ninety two. Ninety
two is the text number. This morning, after ten o'clock,
I'm going to tell you about this amazing new Kiwi
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TV show. There's so much hype around it. You know
how that show After the Party with Robin Malcolm was
just like the best TV drama made in New Zealand
for years. This new show Madam has a similar level
of hype. People in the nose say it's an amazing show.
So we're going to tell you about that after ten
o'clock this morning. Right now it's nine thirty News Talks.
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It'd be you were Jack Tame through to midday today.
Thanks for your feedback, Jack. I've recently saw the amazing
side of what appeared to be a group or flock
of nearly ten or more two. You're arriving together at
a very exotic looking tree with big orange flowers. It
was amazing site, says Fiona. See I thought too. You
sometimes see them in peers, but you know usually send
them in a big flock, do you So that would
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be incredible. Just so you know, in the Euros, France
and Portugal are going to penalties. So if you want
to see the drama of a live penalty shootout with
a pack stadium TV and Z Plus, you can stream that.
Now make sure you keep us on of course, you
know you can just have that on in the background.
But a bit of drama. Christiana Ronaldo up against Killian
and Buppe, et cetera. I'll let you know how that
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score goes in a couple of minutes as well. Now though,
it's time to catch up with our film review of
Francesca Rudkin for her picks this weekend. Hey Francesca, good
mind Jack. Let's start off with a movie that is
showing in cinemas at the moment. We'll have a listen
to the bike Riders.
Speaker 3 (19:06):
I'm thinking it's starting a writing club.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
Why all those clubs do are sit around talking about
motorcyclist If.
Speaker 6 (19:16):
You don't belong nowhere else or they belong together, we'd notes.
Speaker 2 (19:22):
Okay, is this a comedy?
Speaker 9 (19:25):
No?
Speaker 10 (19:28):
No, no.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
This is by Jus Nichols, who is a driptful film
such as Man Takes Shelter in Love and this is
probably his worst main screen film he's made, and it
takes a look at the changing nature of biting games
with the viewers from sort of the late sixties through
to the early seventies, and it's actually depth.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
Francisco. I'm really I'm really sorry to interrupt you. Are
you where are you staying right now? Can I can
we get you to just move to try and moving
around a couple of meters or something.
Speaker 8 (19:57):
I can move absolutely, I'm sure. Where are meaning again?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Not if anything's hapnding, wor oh? Okay, what have you done?
Speaker 11 (20:09):
Now?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
What have you done? Have you moved your hands? Your
hand on the microphone?
Speaker 12 (20:13):
No?
Speaker 8 (20:13):
No, I just ran across the room. It's very technical.
Does that film better?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
It's not want to describe as better. I'll tell you. Hey,
are you there?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Yeah, okay, there's something of it better here there?
Speaker 8 (20:27):
Okay, hello, hi, yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Yeah, there's it. Don't move, don't do not move. Tell
us about the bike riders.
Speaker 8 (20:34):
I'm standing underneath the tour frame. It's perfect that there's
an earthquake.
Speaker 13 (20:37):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (20:37):
So uh.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
This was, as I mentioned, adapted from the photo book
by a photojournalist, a guy called Danny light Line, and
they've used him kind of as a narrator in this film.
So he went in and he followed. After he finished
at college, he read and he sort of joined the
Chicago Vandals and he did interviews with them and he
photographed them, and he created this book. So the film
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is based on that book. And in the film, he
then he interviews Kathy, who is the wife of one
of the bikers, Benny Ben is played by Austin Butler,
and he is by far one of the probably more
self destructive and toughest, the sexiest, and definitely the cleanest
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of all the bikers in this gang. And so she
sort of tells the story of meeting him, falling in love.
She was a well respected, working class girl who didn't
anticipate that she would end up kind of in this
biker land. And she talks us through how it did
start out as a group of guys just trying to
find their place in the world by they love their motorbikes.
They got together and rode their bikes, and then how
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it kind of became a popular movement. There were more
franchises and then really kind of the violence and more gangs,
their aspects of it kind of took over. So you're
kind of just looking at this the way the gangs
kind of morphed into something else. And Tom Hardy plays Johnny,
who's the president, and really it's kind of a bit
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of a love story, a bit of a triangle love
triangle between Johnny and Kathy and Benny. Johnny wants Benny
to take over, Kathy wants Benny to leave the leave
the gang, and to be honest with you. Bennie doesn't
say huge amount of this film. He's a pretty emotionless
kind of character who's just this is where he fits
and he just sort of goes along for the ride. Look,
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it's really interesting, and I quite like the way that
they've told us from a female point of view, but
I feel like it only scratches the surface. It's a
little bit pretty. It feels like a sanitized version of
actually what was really going on. There's not a huge
amount of these guys that they like to sit around
drink beer, you know, ride their bikes, being a gang
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and hang out together. But I think that it doesn't
really put a touch on a lot of their kind
of beliefs and philosophies in the way they decide to
kind of grow and live their lives. So yeah, it
looks good, sounds great fun, but I just think it
just sort of probably scratches the surface of what really.
Speaker 13 (23:05):
Is going on.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Okay, so that's the bike riders also showing and cinemas
tell us about the Taste of Things.
Speaker 8 (23:12):
Oh look, if you love foody films like The Best
Feast or Chocolat or Big Night, then you're going to
love this French film. It's by tran On Hum and him.
About thirty years ago Davides with a film called The
Grempa part the Center of the Green, a part of Brandpapyet,
and that one the Can, and then this year The
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Taste of Things one best director at Can. It is
a slow, gentle film about basically a love of film
a food. It is set around the kitchen of one
of France's greatest epicure. It's eighteen eighty five and Dodana
is like the Napoleon of culumary art, but he is
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the first to credit his chef, Eugene, who brings all
his ideas to life. As I mentioned, it is pretty
much set in the kitchen. The first twenty minutes you
literally just make them, You just watch them make a meal.
So you really need to be a foody. Do not
go to this film hungry. It's twenty fifteen minutes long
and you're just sit there, just just salivating and refreshing
(24:18):
the fact that you're there very much a love letter
to sort of fresh ingredients and creativity and cooking from
scratch and making a meaningful moment out of a meal.
So quite divine, Juliet Binoche, Quite divine.
Speaker 12 (24:34):
But it is.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
Quite a slow film. It's completely focused on film with
a touch of romance. So I think you'll know if
that's for you.
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Yes, yes, yes, well plat okay, So that's the taste
of things. Your first film is The Bike Riders, and
of course both of those will be up on the
News Talks he'd be website. We try and put everything
from our show up there just as soon as it's
been on the radio. So go to News Talks, dB,
dot co dot nz Ford slash Jack and you'll be
able to find that, just so you know. In the
penalty shootout between Portugal and France, at the moment, oh
(25:07):
hi drama, Ronaldo made his but at the moment Portugal
is behind, so both teams have taken three penalties each.
France are up three to two over Portugal. One Portuguese
player has just missed one. I'll let you know how
the game ends up in a couple of minutes. Right now,
it's twenty to ten on news doorgs EDB.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through
the weekend with bpure dot co dot ins here for
high quality supplements used dogs EDB.
Speaker 2 (25:51):
It's definitely the native trees that the native birds like
the most. I mean no, right, I think the core
fire in particular, Jack, thirty plus two in a cor
fire tree was quite common and too dungyback in the day.
I've got a photo of a corhai tree at our
place way down with Tooey. Yeah, okay, that is impressive.
Thirty It seems to defeat the record at the moment.
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Haven't seen photographic evidence from anyone about thirty twoy, but
that's the record. Portugal has been defeated by France five
to four and the penalty shootout in the Euro's quarterfinals,
so that will mean that France takes on Spain in
the semifinal in a few days time, of course, than
the remaining quarter finals. Tomorrow morning on TVNZ plus Nicki
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Wacks Our cook is with us every Saturday morning on
News Talks EDBS, a highlight of the show. But this
week we're doing things a little bit differently because Nikki
has just published More from a Quiet Kitchen, her latest book,
and it is a deeply personal collection of recipes, stories, anecdotes,
and life lessons, and Nicki's with us this morning.
Speaker 14 (26:54):
Good morning, Yes, good morning. Check.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
First of all, congratulations, Just like a Quiet Kitchen, It
is beautiful, and I love the way that you sprinkle
it in like your own anecdotes and your own stories,
your own little philosophical thoughts and lessons between the recipes
that have enriched your life so much. So just to
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just for anyone who hasn't seen the bog, just just
tell us about the concept a little bit.
Speaker 14 (27:22):
First of all, So, I guess I wrote a couple
of books and they were sort of fairly traditional. They
were you know, and they kind of you know, deserts,
mains starters, whatever, that kind of thing. And then these books,
this series, I really just feel as though that doesn't
do that sort of the food journey any any service,
(27:42):
if you like. So for some reason, my publisher has
gone along with it, so I get to have chapter
headings like solitude and loneliness, yeah, retreats, regrets and ridiculousness
and that sort of thing, because what I do is,
I suppose I do think of my life, you know,
as a series of kind of experiences and the food
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that feeds into that. Literally, So yeah, I've got no
interest in sort of doing anything traditionally. But then after
I send it off the first draft to the publisher,
and the first edit always comes back where within each
one of those chapters they will put the save the
savory recipes first and the sweet ones in. Then even
though I have sprinkled the sweet ones and yeah, favor
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and I reverse them, and I go back and go, no, no,
I don't want them to be like that.
Speaker 2 (28:30):
That's not how I operate. Yeah, So when we got
a copy of the book, Libby and I, my producer,
Liby and I immediately talked about it and just said,
the thing that we love about you is your authenticity,
Like you are who you are, and that's why we
love you, and you don't there's no effort to ever
try and be cool or ever cooler than you are.
(28:50):
Don't get me wrong, cooler You know what I mean
there's no you are you are you are you, and
and that's what I think your readers love about you
as well. And the truth is that that since over
the last couple of years, right since COVID, you have
had a bit of an up and down time, to
say the least.
Speaker 14 (29:09):
Yeah, and look, that's lovely for you to say that.
Around authenticity, I'd say that's really hard one for any human.
So I wasn't. I mean, we were all born authentic
and then we learned not to be somehow or other
have to get it back. So I wouldn't say that
my thirties were particularly authentic, or at least not for myself.
I mean, I've probably ended up exactly as other people
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saw me, but I angsed a lot about what people
were seeing. Not in a vain way, not in a
oh I need to present this way, but I just
was very unsure of myself, whereas I think I did
present quite a sort of shore front, whereas now I've
kind of come to you know, my outsides really really
kind of matched my insides these days, which is a
lot of therapy and a lot of ants thing. But
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there you go.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
So and I mean I mentioned COVID. But after COVID
you gotd by psychon Gabrielle pretty hard.
Speaker 14 (29:58):
Yeah, we did, you know, and I think a lot
of the country did. And it really woke up those
of us who were affected were woke up, We really did.
And my small community got hit pretty hard. There's still
houses down here at put white cutto red stickered, you know,
the hills slipped down, and you know, my own property flooded,
and it was it was pretty It was pretty shocking,
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to be honest. If you haven't been directly affected by
you know, some sort of climate crisis or an earthquake
or whatever, I think you feel empathy, but you don't
necessarily really feel it, you know what I mean. Or
as we were there, I was shin deep in water, going, oh,
how does this not flow away? Could it just go?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Please?
Speaker 14 (30:38):
And it really did shake me for quite some time.
I felt like I really couldn't trust trust nature, if
you like, and yet that's the only thing we can trust.
Speaker 2 (30:45):
It probably do you feel Do you feel more secure now?
Speaker 14 (30:48):
I do? Yeah, yeah, that has gone. But it took
a bit of work. I just sort of cooked my
waist through it. And I also made sure Jack that
I got out a lot in nature, So I do
think that more from a quiet kitchen. Certainly, the beautiful
imagery that Toddy has taken, there's a lot of me
in the water, up walking up in hills and that
sort of thing. Really had to kind of tune back
towards nature and embrace it.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Yeah, the photos are gorgeous.
Speaker 14 (31:12):
I mean, he's amazing.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
He does an amazing job because it's it is it
like a real art. A couple of little things, a
little anecdotes and stories. I wanted to ask you about
the eating for one. You really lean into this and
I love it. In fact, you don't say it's just
eating for one. You say there's all sorts of stuff
that can be fun for one, traveling for one, going
to concerts by yourself. Yeah, yeah, I love So you
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just just talk to us a little bit about that
and why you felt it so important to kind of
fear that your ethos around that.
Speaker 14 (31:40):
Well, Look, lots of people find themselves single for lots
of different reasons, or as I like to say, you know,
living or being solo. Primarily we've all got great friends,
we've got family, we've got all that. But if you
haven't got a significant other. Sometimes people that makes them
stop going out for dinner. They might not go to
a concert. They might yeah, not travel. I do all
of those things, and I love all of them. A
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friend of mine particularly put me onto the going to
the concerts thing before a Fleetwood mat concert. She said, look,
I've brought a single ticket. You know, I know you
love them?
Speaker 11 (32:09):
Why you?
Speaker 14 (32:10):
And so we did. We met up beforehand. We both
went and sat in our seats, had a great night.
In fact, that was the last time that they toured
in New Zealand. I'm so pleased I didn't. You can
often pick up tickets for you know, sell out concerts.
Dining dining alone is always a little bit hilarious because
everybody else is particularly uncomfortable with that, apart from me.
You know, while I'm sitting in the restaurant, I do
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think sometimes what I've given I've given my readers some
ideas around sit at what we call the pass or
you know, up at a counter, if you can go
back to the same place so that they know you,
which is really lovely. Take a book, take a kindle.
These days we've got phones. Just sit there and steering
and off into the distance. It is more acceptable now.
But what I reckon Jeck is loads of people are
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comfortable doing it when they travel for work or whatever.
But then when you're in your own hometown, does anyone
want to go up to Blue Breeze in and sit
on their own and have their mates see them?
Speaker 6 (33:05):
Do that?
Speaker 14 (33:06):
All I used to do all the time when I
lived around ponsb. So you know, I think, don't don't
worry about all of that. And I have had people
invite me to the table, which I find really weird,
you know, just because they feel like, oh, no, your
poor thing, you're on their own. I never look at
a couple sitting not speaking to each other and go
over and say, do one of you want to join me?
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You having a good time? So yeah, if you see
someone diving alone, just ignore them. It's fine, they're having
a great time.
Speaker 2 (33:34):
I reckon the book thing is I think the book
thing is absolutely critical, well not critical, but that's the
thing I love doing. I actually think this is a
little bit of a secret to I quite like, especially
when I'm overseas. But I don't know why. I think
it's the kind of bar culture in New York, for example,
it's a bit different. Yes, I love going to a
bar and having a glass of wine and reading a
book just by myself. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 14 (33:56):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
And I always think I must look so mysterious right now.
I always think, my gosh, if I was looking at
me thinking my gosh, I'm asterious person. Is he a spy?
Is something spy?
Speaker 11 (34:06):
Is a reviewer?
Speaker 2 (34:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (34:09):
Exactly, No, none of those things. You're just out enjoying
your own company. And sometimes it's really nice to enjoy
the drink, the food, really uninterrupted, ready to get that
experience kind of thing. Well, just have some time alone.
I just don't think we should be missing out on things.
So that is a big ethos for my books. And
it's why so many of the recipes serve one or two,
(34:31):
because that is the other thing is you know, for
years even I wrote recipes serves four to six. Always
it's hard for people to downscale those or they feel
like they have to sort of be eating something much
more or steer if it's just cooking for one, and
it really doesn't need to be. So yeah, I'm pleased
they're bringing comfort to people.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
No love, it's such a yeah, it's and like I say,
it is, it is absolutely beautiful. I know that we're
going to we're going to put one of the recipes
from the book up online today.
Speaker 14 (35:00):
Is the Parisian.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Caramel, which I feel like might have been picked out
for me. I just I've long seen rice pudding is
the most underrated of puddings.
Speaker 14 (35:10):
Oh, I agree, and the French have elevated it. I
can still remember the little bistro that I went to
eat this in Paris. And it comes cold in Paris. Yes,
at this time it may have just been a trend
and with some lightly whipped cream through it, so it's
light and billowy. And then they bring you this lovely
big bowl of of salted caramel sauce that you can
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just laidle out as much as you wish. Oh my goodness,
it is so.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Good, so much, given you are in such a beautiful
part of the world in Port Wykeata. What's the record
for the number of TOUI and your nick of the woods?
Speaker 15 (35:49):
Oh?
Speaker 14 (35:49):
I saw your toy video yesterday and I thought, how fantastic.
I have a lot of towey around here as well.
I love them. I've never seen sex. Now I've got
a pair. I've got two peers that sits at either
corner of my property, but not sex with the pears.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
I'm always like, are they friends? Are they a cup
or do they hate each other? It's all of those
things could apply. But you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 14 (36:12):
Think everything about it to is slightly clumsy.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yeah, they're not elegant. They're not elegant until they stop flying. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 14 (36:19):
And they're just amazing. But even their song it's so
disjointed and amazing, but it's not harmonious.
Speaker 11 (36:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 14 (36:27):
There they seem to keep us geesing, I think, Joe, Yeah,
but I was very envious of you, and just for
our listeners as well. I love the idea of your
sugar water. A friend of mine gets big oranges, she
haves them, she puts them on a steak, and within
minutes they are being surrounded the oranges. So there you go.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
We're going to keep moving, but thank you so much.
What I'm going to do is Nicky works dot Com
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It'd be hey, thank you for your messages. We have
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conversation with Nicky. As a thirty five year old mum
of two with a husband, I love my me time.
I go to dinner, I go to the movies. I
travel by myself and my husband is very on point,
he knows when I need my me time. My friends
all think it's a bit strange, so no, I just
(37:28):
that's a really good point actually about people when relationships also,
you know, wanting a bit of their own time and
you know, appreciating a bit of solo time. I think
I think all of us do, don't we All of
us surely do. It's really important, Jack, I giz up
all of your two stories, says Jill. I had sixty
four enormous white cockatoos land in my walnut tree in
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Australia and strip it beer in ten minutes. Yeah. They
returned every year, said Jill. That is pretty amazing, Jill,
sixty four of them. Yeah, making light work of that.
Thank you for all your messages. We'll get to more
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News Talks B website as well. After ten o'clock our
feature interview this morning. Cannot wait for this one. Kiwi
music legend Julia Dean's with us in studio. It is
almost ten o'clock. It's Saturday morning. I'm Jack Tayman. This
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That voice ay so pure, so suck It's beautiful. One
of our Theodore's all time favorite bands, for Patrol is back.
They first appeared back in nineteen ninety eight with their
sty Lifter EP and their Legacy Demands all sorts of
(39:33):
respect three albums and songs that top the charts in
the naughties. But for Patrol is going to be touring
New Zealand later this year. But the guitar the attitude
and that killer voice. Front woman Julia Dean's is with
us this morning, Kyoda, good morning, nice to be here. Yeah,
nice to see you in person, and fantastic to hear
that you guys are going to be playing on stage.
(39:55):
Is this the first time in two years? Am I right?
And thinking?
Speaker 16 (39:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 11 (39:58):
Or if you? Or the second time in a gazillion?
If you?
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Yeah? Okay, so you last for Patrol, will last together
in twenty twenty two? What was it about that experience
that made you think this would be fun and worthwhile?
Speaker 4 (40:13):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (40:15):
Too?
Speaker 11 (40:16):
I think one of one of them. The fact one
of the things is that we just we're actually like siblings,
and when we get together, it's just it's like being
back in the family again, and everything just kind of
locks into place, and just all the stupidity happens, like
the good stupidity. And the other is, yeah, we just
(40:37):
and we loved play together. But also when we did
those shows for the pet anniversary tour, the feedback that
we were getting from the audience is just like it
was like walking into a big love fest. Everyone was
so excited and so happy. And I actually just posted
(40:59):
I was looking back through the photos that our friend
Nick took and came with us on the tour, and
he took all these amazing photos of the audience and
just the faces of utter joy and delight. I just
posted a whole lot of them on my Instagram the
other day because it was just like, these are beautiful
and I think get like little friendly goosebumpy feelings just
(41:21):
thinking about it. It's just, you know, everyone sang all
the words, even to like the most obscure songs on
the record kind of thing. So we're hoping that we
can sort of generate that buzz again. And with our
second album, which was Collider, which is now twenty years old.
Speaker 2 (41:42):
Come on, twenty years is nothing, Yeah, which.
Speaker 11 (41:44):
Wasn't as commercially there's so much of a hit as
as pet but I don't know, we love it, Yeah,
we love it, and we know we've got people that
were messaging us after the last two.
Speaker 2 (41:57):
Yeah, had you not anticipated that response?
Speaker 17 (42:01):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (42:02):
I think we were more thinking more about ourselves and
how much fun we were going to have. And then
once we you know, so like hit the stage and
just met everyone and you know, on the stage and
in the audience and that beautiful kind of bubble, it's
like that's right, that's what this is like. Yes, yeah,
it's it's a good communal experience because it's not just
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us having a blast, it's the fact that we look
down is everyone else having a blast, and then that
just makes us feel better, and then that makes them
feel better, and then you just got this little happy
feedback loop.
Speaker 2 (42:36):
What does good stupidity look like?
Speaker 11 (42:38):
What it feels like? Sore core muscles? You know, when
you've been laughing so hard that you just like stop.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
That is the best pain in the world. It is,
Isn't it an amazing feeling when you when you when
you literally you can feel the physical effect of having
having hung out with people you love.
Speaker 11 (43:02):
Yes, absolutely. I mean you know you've been all that
time with your eyes screwed up tech because you slap
your mouth's open really wide, making these horrendous noises that
are great fun.
Speaker 2 (43:13):
Yeah, I think. Okay, so twenty years, So that means
that since nineteen ninety eight the style off th Ep,
your first big release is twenty six years Yeah, so yes,
h What is the kind of nostelgia element do you
(43:34):
think there's like a do you think for the you know,
for your for your fans, and for you guys, is it.
You know, there's a real kind of because the reason
the reason I asked this is I went back and
listened to I actually want to look up a couple
of videos of videos on YouTube that I hadn't looked
up in ages, and I was looking at Lydia and
there was a comment. One of the top comments on
YouTube was someone who said, I'm from Japan and I
(43:55):
was an exchange student in New Zealand when this was released.
And it's amazing how this song to me just brings back,
you know, just brings back this incredible volume of memories
from that time. And I wondered how many times that
kind of story, doesn't have to be someone from overseas
or anything, has been repeated. And there's a kind of
that that that early aughts nostalgia.
Speaker 11 (44:16):
Yeah. Often we get people, you know, have done for years,
people coming and saying, oh, may we played your song
at our wedding. Oh I remember I just moved to
blah blah blah, I'd just broken up with somebody, you know,
all those sort of life moments. It's funny that somebody
told me years ago that you don't understand what nostalgia
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really is. Until about the age of forty. I think
somewhere around the age of forty was it just was
thinking about something and I was having that kind of like,
oh nice, sort of reminiscent thing. I went, oh my god, No,
I know what they meant. No, I really understand what
nostalgia actually is.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Is it better to have someone playing your song at
their wedding or through their breakup?
Speaker 6 (45:03):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Both, do you reckon?
Speaker 11 (45:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (45:05):
Well, it's good that you can exist in both those spaces.
Speaker 11 (45:09):
Yeah, I guess so well. Also, you know, particularly with Lydia,
it's like you played this as if you heard the
lyrics as your wedding does so yeah, or somebody walks
down the aisle to it, it's like.
Speaker 2 (45:26):
You around moont Yeah. Yeah, it can be. It can
be both pretty and stir said, I suppose.
Speaker 11 (45:34):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I guess that's it is.
You know, that whole idea of a song. It's like smell.
I guess music can be like scent. You know, these
things that trigger a whole cascade of memories and emotions.
You know, it's that same powerful thing, especially when you
hear something. I think it's like between your ment teens
(45:57):
to late twenties. That's a really formative time of life
and sort of and turning who you are and going
to be as an adult. And so I guess all
those experiences have this extra level of sinking in this
that's a technical.
Speaker 2 (46:15):
Yeah, yeah they do. They're kind of foundational. Yeah yeah,
But don't they say that the whatever album you listen
to at seventeen, you'll be listening to at seventeen here. Yeah, yeah,
that's the that's the kind of whatever it is about
that stage of life. I know you love them like brothers,
you said, Andrew and Simon, But what was it like
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playing with them versus writing your own stuff and performing solo.
Speaker 11 (46:43):
Oh it's it's way more companionable and fun and prone
to a little bickering. But that's okay.
Speaker 2 (46:51):
I think, what does what does a little bicker look like?
Speaker 12 (46:53):
What?
Speaker 2 (46:53):
What? What's the sort of thing that you were bicker over?
Give us give us a sense of how trivia all
this bicker?
Speaker 1 (46:58):
Oh?
Speaker 11 (47:00):
Man, I can't even define it. Just stupid things, right,
familiar things.
Speaker 2 (47:05):
You didn't carry that at amp or like, No.
Speaker 11 (47:08):
We're actually pretty We've always been reasonably good at reasonably
good at you know, the sharing of lugging air duties.
I guess maybe it was it's going to be the
SOMN drive, but which I think I dutifully should volunteer
for more now because back when we were touring all
the time, I didn't actually have a license. I could drive,
(47:30):
but it wasn't licensed, so I didn't. I've managed to
shirk that.
Speaker 2 (47:34):
It feels like a real strategic move. Don't tell them, sorry, guys.
You know what I really love to Another thing that
struck me just just going back through YouTube, And I
don't know why I decided to do that, but I
just as you do, is how music videos used to
I feel like at that time, especially you know, in
(47:56):
the early aughts, music videos were such a kind of
central part of the art. Yeah, And I don't know,
maybe it just speaks to me being older and maybe
not as being it's up with it. I might once
have wished I was. But it feels like music videos
don't hold the same place.
Speaker 11 (48:15):
No, I don't think they do. And I think a
large part of that is because the avenues for playing
them have changed. So when when you used to make
a video, you'd spend all this money on it, and
and time and time and there were really only there
was only music television to watch it on. So but
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which meant that it could actually earn sort of royalties
for the artists as well. So I guess it was.
But it was also part of that whole package off
you make a if you make a song single, you've
got to have a video to help sell it. Blah
blah blah. But now that I guess it's it's like
music streaming, the whole video streaming. There are more avenues,
(48:59):
but the pay per view kind of thing is is
dominating significantly smaller. Yeah, I mean that's that's my theory.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
And do you think as a result that the kind
of artistic approach to music videos has probably been reduced
as well. That may be artists they don't don't see
as much value as they once did, and a really
distinct video or Yeah.
Speaker 11 (49:24):
I think. I think when you actually are going to
put the money into it, you tend to make sure
it's going to be good worth viewing and worth spending
that money on. Otherwise it's there's a whole lot of
like with a lyric, lyric videos or just seemi like
little thirty second videos to kind of get I guess
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on social media and so forth, and then visualizers lots
of verse, I think, and then the you know, the
big cats at the top of the food pyramid music pyramid. Rather,
they tend to still put lots and lots of money
into right fancy music videos, and I still love watching
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flashy music videos. I think it is it's nice that
that visual element to a song. There's something really I'm
magical in that.
Speaker 2 (50:16):
Yeah, So what can we expeak from the shows?
Speaker 11 (50:19):
Fun?
Speaker 2 (50:20):
Good with the capital F you and only a small
amount of bickering from those on stage.
Speaker 11 (50:27):
Usually it's when I'm talking too much in between songs
and then just Simon just starts counting in with it.
Speaker 2 (50:32):
Does he do that?
Speaker 10 (50:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (50:35):
He always?
Speaker 2 (50:36):
And do you ever like try and push him so,
like if he's trying to give you a forecaut you'll
just push it out and just say well.
Speaker 11 (50:42):
I think probably more now than I used to. And
I think the problem from that is that I've gotten
used to being, you know, playing lots of solo things
where where I'm the bust or the only person on stage,
and so rather than the band waiting for me or
me waiting for me, Simon's just there, Oh, come on, and.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
It's not just if he's if he's counting you in.
It's if the count's actually subtly getting faster and faster
and faster. That's when you really need to worry. Yeah,
I look, I know, I know so many people are
going to be delighted that you guys are back playing live.
So many, so many people will be giving you those
same expressions that they did when you guys joined to
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give a couple of years ago. So yeah, thank you
so much for giving us your time and good luck.
Speaker 11 (51:26):
Oh, thank you, thanks for having me in.
Speaker 2 (51:29):
Yeah, now it really has That is Julia Dean. She is,
of course the front woman for Fur Patrol. Fair Patrol
are going to be performing in Littleton, Tarmackee, Makoto, Auckland,
Nelson in September of this year. We'll have all the
details dates for their shows and we can buy tickets
at Newstalks headb dot co, dot m seed. Coming up
this hour on News Talks, he'd be We're going to
(51:49):
catch up with our doctor Brian Betty. He wants to
talk to us about men's health. You'll be thinking, hang on,
it's July. Men's health month is over, and that's kind
of the point this morning. He doesn't want men's health
to only be a focus for a month every year.
He's got a couple of little points he wants to
share with us this morning that could make a big
difference to the lives of you or the men in
(52:09):
your life. Next up, if you're looking for something good
to watch this weekend, in between the Rugby, the Warriors,
the Euros all that other amazing sport, good news, three
fantastic shows to recommend in our screen time segment. Right now,
it's twenty one past ten on Newstalks EDB.
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Twenty three minutes past ten on News Talks EDB. Nick
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his backyard that took over the towy feeder. He's in
Takapuna as well, so relatively relatively central rest of the
urban wouldn't necessarily have expected to see KRCA there. Maybe
a little bit further out western Auckland or out in
the island somewhere, But you go, very good, Nick. If
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you can beat my seven twoy I think the record
for the moment of thirty two, although we haven't seen
photographic evidence. I've got six or seven twoy in my backyard,
which I think is my record. I do have video
evidence of it on my Facebook page if you want
to go and check it out. Not AI altered either,
but if you can do better than that, by all means,
let us know. Jack. The lyrics for he Patrol's Modern
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amazing too. John's flick me a note to say Jack,
I'm so going to be going to these concerts. Julia
has just got the greatest laugh and Chris says, Ah,
Jack Julius so much fun. Love that interview. Cannot wait
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Timetime on your Saturday morning. This is the time every
week where we catch up with Tara Ward. She's our
screen time expert. It's her job to bring us three
shows every weekend. And I'm really excited at least about
a couple of these. Tara, good Morning, Good Morning. Let's
start off with the latest KIWI comedy drama. A lot
(54:00):
of hype around this one. Tell us about Madam.
Speaker 18 (54:03):
Yeah, a lot of hype around Madam, partly because it's
already won two major international TV awards, one in Monte
Carlo and one in Berlin, even before it had screened
in New Zealand, so it's already been recognized as a
as a pretty special show. It's inspired by a true story.
It's about a woman who opened what she called an
ethical brothel in Northland a few years ago, so a
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brothel that puts the safety and well being of the
female sex workers first, and so this show runs with
that idea. It's a mix of comedy and drama, and
it's about an American woman named Mac who's played by
Rachel Griffiths, who decides to set up her own ethical
brothel in her small country town. She doesn't really know
what she's doing, and she has to deal with complaining
neighbors and staffing issues and the council and raising her
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family at the same time. So it's quite an unusual
idea for a comedy drama. But as a TV show.
Speaker 2 (54:53):
It works.
Speaker 18 (54:54):
It's a very well made, very confident, very few piece
of television and it has this amazing cut. I mean,
Rachel Griffiths is the lead Academy Award nominee from Muriel's
Wedding and Six Feet Under, as well as Martin Henders
and Danielle Cormack Remateiata Robbie Makeaceiva just such a strong
and somber cast and you know, it's something different for
a local show, which is exciting in itself. It started
(55:16):
on three this week, but you can also catch that
streaming on three now as well.
Speaker 17 (55:19):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (55:20):
Okay, yeah, really, yeah. It's great to see like a
couple of big New zeal The shows doing so well
after the Party series which was just amzing. Yeah. Awesome
to see me Adam doing so well.
Speaker 6 (55:31):
Right.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Next up on Disney Plus tell Us about Brats.
Speaker 18 (55:35):
Yea, if you grew up watching iconic eighties movies like
The Breakfast Club or sint Elmo's Fire, then this is
the documentary for you. This is made by Andrew McCarthy
who was one of the Brat Pack of actors, and
the Brat Pack was this group of up and coming
young stars people like Emilio Estevez, Demi Moore, Rob Low,
Molly Ringwold, who all seemed to star in the same
movies at the same time and who were incredibly famous,
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and when the term brat pack was made, it was
it immediately gave these actors a really bad reputation and
a label that some of them just couldn't through their career.
And Andrew McCarthy has struggled with that for forty years
and decides to meet up with some of his fellow brackpackers,
many of whom that he hasn't seen since the eighties,
to look back on that time in their lives, and
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the whole documentary is sort of a therapy session for him.
He's obviously had quite a chip on her shoulder about it.
But what I loved about this is that it dives
back into the eighties pop culture scene when Hollywood had
just started to make movies for young people like Back
to Future and Risky Business, and movies were just so
important in pop culture at that time. Everyone went to
the movies, everyone kind of shared in that same that
(56:42):
same moment. So this is really nostalgic and thoughtful and
a great trip down memory lane and kind of you know,
you meet those movie stars that you sort of grew
up with in a completely different context, which is great,
very good.
Speaker 2 (56:54):
Okay, that's Bratts. That's on Disney Plus. And a series
that my wife and I have watched this week Sprint
on Netflix.
Speaker 18 (57:02):
Yeah, this is the latest in Netflix's sport documentary series Boom.
And I know we talked about these kind of shows
a couple of weeks ago. Jack shows like Drive to
Survive or Tour de France Unchained. They take us behind
the scenes of a particular sport and they are full
of full of energy and fast paced with big personalities,
and Sprint is the latest of these series. This is
about the world of athletics, specifically one hundred and two
(57:25):
hundred meter runners, and it looks at what it takes
to be the fastest people in the world, the intensity
of the training, the psychology of it, all the mind games.
It talks to people like Usain Bolton Michael Johnson about
what you need to be so good over such a
short distance, and profiles a few of the athletes as
they train to be the very best and to get
to the Olympics. So it really immerses you in that world.
(57:47):
And I know with athletics, some of us might only
watch it every four years or so at the Olympics,
and with the Olympics only a few weeks away, this
is perfectly timed. You will become a sprinting armchi expert
in no time with us one.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
Do you know that there is one of the funny
things about these series, like you watch, you know, you
watch six hours with the television and all of us,
and you've just believe that you've become qualified for ah,
you know, he's just too slow out of the blocks
there and needs to keep his head down to at
least the forty in And the other thing. My word
of caution when when watching these series is think very
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carefully about what stage of the evening you're watching them.
Because my wife and I were curled up on the
couch the other night and I was onto my second
bowl of ice cream for the weekend, and you had
these these elite sprinters ripping off their shirts and my
wife I could sort of I could sort of see
her sitting up straight and the couch all of a sudden,
you know, intensely focused on the television as I was
(58:43):
licking the hokey pokey, thinking oh, okay, yeah right. You know,
some of the physical specimens are a little bit intimidating
for us me immortals, but never mind aspirational as it's
aspirational TV. Exactly nice that we can yes share in
a little bit of a well a bit of a
fantasy life. I suppose Sprint is on Netflix, Spratt on
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Disney plus, Madam is on three and three now and
all of those shows are on the News talks AB website.
Thank you so much to our screen time expert Tara.
We will see you next week. Right now, it's ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News talks AB.
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Yes, she just leaves Beast found the.
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Turn them back the hands of time. Ah, how good?
Remember this? This is Crawl from the Kiwi band Atlas.
This spent more than two months at number one back
in two thousand and seven, and that was the first
time that had been achieved by a New Zealand artist
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since nineteen eighty seven. And Dave Dobbins Slice Heaven. That's
remarkable a the single really launched the career of the
band at Keewe. Beth Campbell and American Sean Cunningham founded,
and now Sean Cunningham is stepping into the solo artist's
spotlight with a brand new album of his own. We're
gonna have a bit of a listen to that after
eleven o'clock this morning. Be interesting to see how it
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compares to Atlas's sound. Haven't heard a lot of Sean Cunningham,
so we're going to make sure we have a little
bit of time after eleven o'clock this morning and can
share that with you. Thanks for all your feedback. If
you want to send us a Messa this morning, ninety
two ninety two is our text number. Absolutely love that
interview with Julia Dean's This Morning Jack. She is such
a legendary musician and I'm really excited to see fur
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Patrol on stage. Like you say that voice, that voice, Yeah,
that voice. Before eleven o'clock this morning. Catch up with
our doctor, doctor Brian Betty. Next up, Amazon is making
a big new play into an area where they don't
usually muck around. They've decided to go with the company
that owns sacks for the Avenue, you know, the big
department store, the glitzy department store in New York, and
(01:01:08):
buy out some of the competitors. This deal is worth
billions and billions of dollars. So why is Amazon pursuing it?
We'll tell you all in a couple of minutes. Right now,
it's twenty five to eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:01:20):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers The Mic Hosking.
Speaker 19 (01:01:23):
Breakfast The government's new housing plan, funger Ami Vince Cocarillas.
Whether if the developers seed are profit in it, they will
do the infrastructure.
Speaker 15 (01:01:30):
Is that fair or not?
Speaker 13 (01:01:31):
So what we've done in oday is work at where
the infrastructure needs to be and put in place and
there own contributions. Now there are some councils for Doric
that we do so when it developers is ok, I'm
going to do development in this area. We put the
price on each property and so I glatly going towards
the infrastructure in the area and to then kick their
project so then it actually flowers for the points to
be upgraded, the roads to upgraded, and the weight side
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of things.
Speaker 19 (01:01:51):
You almost sound like you've got erect together in fung arrangments.
Speaker 13 (01:01:54):
Now we've been working on at a long time, Mike,
A long time back.
Speaker 19 (01:01:58):
Monday from six am, the mic Hosking Breakfast with Jaguar.
Speaker 6 (01:02:02):
News Talk ZEDB twenty two.
Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Minutes to eleven on news Talk ZEDB, Netflix and Paramount
have asked Canadian courts to ditch a local news funding rule.
Now this rule is a little bit different to the
one that's being pursued by the government here, but it
could have big implications for news producers in Canada. Our
texpert Paul steinhouses here with the details. Hepe, Paul, Yeah,
good morning Jack.
Speaker 5 (01:02:24):
It's a timely conversation, isn't it, with the closure of
news Hub. And it's a really interesting one because it's
called the Online Streaming Act and it's in Canada, and
they are basically going after the biggest streaming services, those
who pull in more than twenty five million dollars Canadian
worth of revenue and who aren't affiliated with the domestic broadcasters.
Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
So they're really looking at.
Speaker 5 (01:02:47):
The real Netflixes of the world, the big internationals.
Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
Sure, and they're going to take They're going to.
Speaker 5 (01:02:53):
Put five percent tax on that revenue, which is a
pretty large number, right. They think they're going to pull
in about two hundred million dollars in funding, which they
are then going to go and put into what I
assume is like in New Zealand onni a type fund,
they're going to go towards creating local content, supporting black
and Indigenous creators. All of this sounds good.
Speaker 14 (01:03:11):
And here's where it's weird.
Speaker 5 (01:03:13):
The Motion Picture Association of Canada actually kind of says
that it's okay. They're kind of on board with it,
and I guess it's because they're probably going to be
creating content that could potentially end up on one of
their services, right.
Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
But what they're here, yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:03:26):
But what they're not interested in is a component of
that law where they need to fund local news.
Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Interesting, so about one point five.
Speaker 5 (01:03:34):
Percent is actually is going to be going to local
news production. And these studios are saying that this news
content mandate is unreasonable. That's the word they use. They
said it's neither appropriate in consideration of the nature of
the services they provide, nor equitable. So what they're really
saying is that, hey, we we're happy to maybe think
(01:03:56):
about helping out if it's going to be entertainment, but
if it's somethin that we're not going to put on
our service, don't really want to do it. And they've
gone to the court to say strike it out. Because
this is supposed to go into law September one.
Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Well, look here's the thing. It's you know, I'm sure
people would say, oh, you have on that one. Yeah,
if I put on If I try and look at
this critically, you can see why they Netflix is actually,
you know what we don't. We're not competing with news.
We're not sucking people away from news. We're not hoovering
up that information like maybe Google and Meta are doing
(01:04:32):
with their models. We're quite different. We're just providing entertainment.
And I think there's probably the reasonable argument to me idea.
Speaker 5 (01:04:37):
But I think that the big piece that is probably
the the core of this argument is that news organizations
don't typically outside of usually morning shows in most parts
of the world, don't typically make a lot of money,
and so they're actually like that content's like the lost leader, right,
So I think, how else are you going to fund news?
(01:04:58):
I actually think it's quite an interesting kind of dance
stuff done. I really like as well that they're targeting
the big streamers and not yet you know, the new
not the niche ones, but they've kind of gone.
Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
You've got to be So Amazon is getting into the
luxury department store gain by pairing up with Sex fifth Avenue.
This was a real surprise.
Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Sex fifth Avenue is going to be buying Neman Markets.
They've been competitors for years and years. There's been a
lot of consolidation in the luxury space. The number of
department store brands is dwindled. In fact, hum of department
stores period have. I guess I've dwindled here in the
States that What was really surprising to me was the
line that said the parent of sex forth is in
partnership with Amazon. I thought that's interesting. They're spending two
(01:05:43):
point sixty five billion, right, so effectively Amazon's buying into
the parent company of Sax together that they're buying Neman Marcus.
Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
And then even.
Speaker 5 (01:05:51):
More bizarre is that they've got sales Force as part
of this deal too. Like they are a very minor stakeholder,
but they don't usually do anything outside of sort of
software startups and things that are related to the customer
relationship management world. So that was really prising. But Amazon's
Mijorready Steake is going to come with technology and logistical expertise.
Speaker 6 (01:06:14):
Now that's interesting.
Speaker 5 (01:06:16):
Right because they have now basically put a value on
what they do and are bringing that into the business deal.
And I think another thing that kind of underscored for
me just how important the online market is in this
new venture is that the guy who runs the online
store for sex, he's going to be the CEO of
(01:06:37):
this new combined company towards Sex Global. So it's almost
like they're saying goodbye in person. But at the same time,
in the press release, they actually said they were most
interested in this company because of their large footprint, because
they do believe that when you're in the luxury market,
it's a little different to when you're just buying a
T shirt. With nine ninety nine, you actually want to
(01:06:57):
partner with the sales associate. You want them to know
what they're talking about, and chances are you probably want
to feel it, touch it, and maybe try it on
before you go and spend literally thousands of dollars on
some of these items.
Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
Yeah, fair cool. It'd be very interesting watch the space.
Thank you, Paul. That's that expert Paul's Stenhouse seventeen to eleven,
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According to eleven on Newstalks EDB, Men's Health Week was
a couple of weeks ago in June, but we want
to talk about it now because men's health shouldn't just
be a week, it should be every single week. And
doctor Brian Betty is with us this morning. Kiler, Brian,
why is men's health so important?
Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
Oh? Look, I think there's some real underlying statistics that
are really important to reflect on. You know, there's big
studies overseas that show that men are twice as likely
as women never to have visited their doctor or GP,
that three times is likely not to have seen their
GP in the last five years. And in New Zealand,
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men die three and a half years younger than woman.
They also developed things like heart disease ten years earlier,
they develop diabetes earlier. So they've got this cluster of
things that go on that are really really important and
it should be a concern that we think about. We
think about men's health and we think about all the time.
Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So for the guys who are listening now, or people
who have guys in their life who maybe have put
off that trip to the doctor for a little too long.
Why should they be visiting their GP.
Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
Well, look, I think one of the big reasons, and
then it's this cluster of hidden health problems that can
start to develop over time early on, and if we
don't go to see our GP, if we don't go
to see our doctor, we won't know about them. And
early intervention is really really important. So there's three in
particular that are a great concern. One is cholesterol, So
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if you don't get a blood test, if you don't
see your doctor, you don't know that you may have
a cholesterol problem. And cholesterols those fats that flow around
to the bloodstream and clog up heart vessels in particular
and can cause heart attacks. So I mentioned that men
have heart disease ten years earlier. That's one of the
reasons that occurs. So we need to check for that
quite regularly. The other one is sugars, which can lead
(01:09:19):
to diabetes. So when sugars start to go up in
the bloodstream, they can start to damage the heart, they
can start to damage the kidneys, they can start to
damage the nervous system. And the thing is we don't
know it's happening until we test it. So it's really
really important. And the third one is what's called the
silent killer, and that's blood pressure. So again unless we
test our blood pressure over time, we don't know it's
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going up. And again that can lead to stroke, heart attacks,
and kidney damage. So these things are hidden. That's called
the silent hits. And unless we go we don't know
it's happening. And early is better than late.
Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And of course there are a couple
of other issues that men in particular should be concerned
about or aware of.
Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Well, probably the big one is the prostate. And again
from about the age of fifty onwards, I think you
do need to be going too here gp having a
chat about whether you should get a prostate examination, which
is basically a simple blood test and look at the
finger up the back passage as everyone talks about, to
check that the prostate's healthier normal size, because again early
(01:10:20):
detection of prostate problems leads to cure. If you leave
it till it's late, it's often too late, and that's
the problem we run into. The other one that's just
started to happen is bowl screening, So you get a
kit through the mail every two years. It's a little
pooh sample you have to do, you send it away
and if there's little changes in that they we can
then progress you to the specialist to examine the bowel
(01:10:43):
and look for any changes that may lead to bowel cancer.
So again, it detects problems early. There's just a couple
of other ones that I think are worth mentioning. I
think skin checks, especially if you're in the country or
a farmer. I think once a year going to see
a GP for a skin check is really very important
for those early signs of skin cancer.
Speaker 4 (01:11:04):
And the other big.
Speaker 3 (01:11:05):
One which men are really reticent with is you know,
sort of if you're feeling down, if you're feeling anxious,
if you're feeling a bit depressed, often a good thing
to do is just look, go to your GP, go
to your doctor and have a chat about it, because
again we can do things about that.
Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Okay, a simple question, but maybe then maybe a bit
so let that but how often should men go for
a check out? When should we be going?
Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Look?
Speaker 3 (01:11:29):
Really good question. Look, I think from the age of fifty,
I think you should be going once a year, right,
because what we know about cholesterol, sugars and blood pressure,
they tend to go up as we get older, so
I think you need to keep on top of that.
So yearly from the age of fifty and from about
the age of thirty, I think every two to five years,
depending on what's going on, is really really a wise
thing to do. So I think you know, with all
(01:11:52):
these things, early detection actually saves lives, It leads to
cure rather than leaving things late. So I think getting
into the habit of doing that from about the age
of thirty onwards, and certainly from the age of fifty
every year, I think you should be going and just
having a chat and looking at what needs to be done.
Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Yeah, that is just great advice. Thank you so much, Brian.
What we're going to do is we'll make sure we
clip up Brian there and we put them on the
Newstalk's He'd be website. If there's someone in your life
who should be hearing Brian's message there but maybe didn't
or is a bit too proud, you can just send
them that little link and no one needs to be
any the wiser. Newstalks he'db dot co dot indeed is
the best place to go for that. It is ten
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Eight to eleven non newstalks. He'd be here. He is
the hero of the hour, rude climb past our man
in the garden. Go and get a bird feeder, he said,
it'll perk you up. My goodness, has it added a
bit of a bit of life to my backyard?
Speaker 15 (01:12:50):
I know this seth was absolutely lovely to hear you.
It was so gorgeous because this is what I did
with the kids as well at school, and it is
exactly what it's about.
Speaker 6 (01:12:58):
My lovely.
Speaker 2 (01:12:59):
My wife is she's got she's become concerned that there's
too much, that there are too many birds, like they're
all squobbling to be over there the whole time. So
the silver eyes will come down. There'll be like six
or eight of them, you know, all on the little platform,
and then a couple of two you will sweep down
and push them out of the way. And then she's
concerned that there are you know, that it's kind of
standing room only for the silver eyes and they can
(01:13:20):
you know, there are a couple who are getting squeezed
off to the sides the runts of the of the
flock perhaps aren't getting it fed. It's that popular. As
my point, and I've.
Speaker 15 (01:13:27):
Got I've got a very quick idea for you here.
Instead of giving the silver eyes that particular sweet stuff,
get a ball from the mad butcher, a big meat ball.
Hang that up just a bit further up and the
tooies won't eat that, but the silver ice will have
their own. Good there you.
Speaker 2 (01:13:44):
Go, Goody.
Speaker 15 (01:13:45):
And something else that's really cool. You were talking about
the aggression of Towi. Well, Gerald and Katie and they're
in great Berry. They've got a market garden there. They've
got trouble with Karka.
Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
Yeah, of course.
Speaker 15 (01:13:56):
Eating eat, you know, pushing everything away. But Touwi when
they when they get Towey there with flex for instance,
they will chase the kraka away. Do not underestimate the
sense of humor. They go through your skin and it hurts.
Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
That's amazing. We will take out the carca. Yep. I've
got a real soft spot for carca because I think
that they are the most dinosaury of New Zealand birds.
They just look the way they There's something about their
posture and the way, especially when they're on the hudder kicker,
you know, they just they kind of and the way
if they spin around one hundred and eighty degrees at
a time when they standard gun. Anyway, we are talking
(01:14:36):
about disruptors this morning. Yeah, disruptors.
Speaker 15 (01:14:38):
Well, look, my sister sent me a wonderful photograph of
a big slug coming out of her robotic lawn mower,
which he named Elbetta's probably after my brother or our brother,
but that's another story. And it came out there and
it sort of showed itself there. That was amazing. And
she immediately linked this to a disaster because when she
came back from holiday in South I think South Francis
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was something Alberta's had not mowed a blade of grass
and so, yes, she thought the slugs had been you know,
I don't know, done something. Sister, yeah, taken over. And
then she says, and then so so because she's a
handy little little girl, she is, or old girl really,
but anyway, the handy girls. She had a look and
(01:15:22):
she found that inside the thing were not just slugs,
but also amazing amounts of ants.
Speaker 2 (01:15:29):
They had literally.
Speaker 15 (01:15:30):
They had literally made a nest there. Yeah, absolutely, and
so she's she basically got rid of these ants, and
the thing winked again, and that reminded me of a
little trick that ants play sometimes, and I've headed a
couple of times myself that ants go inside your house
and sometimes crawl into let's say a light switch and
(01:15:52):
when yeah, that happens, that happens quite a lot, and
these things then basically they do calisthenics or something. They
do this I don't know whatever, and they actually shortcut
the whole light switch by going from the positive to
the negative poll and as soon as you just switch
(01:16:12):
the light on, you and the sparks everywhere.
Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
It's amazing. But then they then they because they released
their like scenes pheromones when they're when they're freaking out.
Speaker 15 (01:16:22):
Yeah yeah, that's right, the asset and that means help me,
help me, So.
Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
All the other all run and chain reaction.
Speaker 15 (01:16:31):
I just want to say, this is what happens in
the wind, to be careful for ants in your switch box.
Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
That's I didn't know that. I mean, they do get
everywhere there. They're one of those like I always look
at ants and just go, man, you are so incredibly
well adapted. You're remarkably well adapted. And yet's so annoying,
so annoying. Hey, thank you so much, rude and go well,
I love, I love.
Speaker 15 (01:16:54):
The story is brilliant.
Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Yeah, thank you so much for the for the bird
feeder recommendation. That has been amazing. And of course the
Great Bird Survey Household bird Survey is currently underway at
the moment, So if you want to take a little
bit of time in your afternoon go count the native
birds at your place. That would be a wonderful thing
to help our biodiversity. After eleven o'clock this morning, oh
this is amazing. Our sustainability commentator is trying to make
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it through a year only eating New Zealand made food.
She's passed halfway now, so how hard is it? News
is next on News Dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:17:26):
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Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
B Nothing like first All Blacks test day of the year.
(01:18:06):
Cannot wait for seven o'clock lace even I thought, I
thought Scott Robinson's first team as all back coach made
a lot of sense. Not huge surprises. Petal feed at
fifteen is a little bit of a surprise. I thought,
but I reckon. Damien McKenzie certainly earned that ten Jersey.
We're going to catch up with Jason Pine for what
is a massive weekend of sport very shortly. He'll be
joining us with his thoughts on that as well as that.
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Before midday today, we're going to play some new music
from Sean Cunningham. He was part of the band Atlas
that were massive in New Zealand like fifteen years ago
a wee while ago. Now Sewan has just gone solo
and we're going to have a little bit of a
listen to his solo project as well as that. We're
taking a cruise in the Greek Islands with our travel
correspondent very shortly. Right now it is eight minutes past eleven.
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Jack Team and our sustainability commentator Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate,
is with us this morning. Kilda, good mind. We are
now officially in the second half of twenty twenty four,
which means we are officially more than halfway through your
New Zealand Made Food Challenge. Just for people who don't
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understand what you're trying to do this year, give us
the basics. What are you trying to achieve so.
Speaker 10 (01:19:17):
Since the first of January, I have purchased only New
Zealand made food. So when I'm shopping to make growthries,
it has to be made in New Zealand, preferably grown
that's made in New Zealand, meaning you know, sometimes you
can't get everything grown to New Zealand. Used to say,
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like a music or something may have some important also
local ingredients made in New Zealand.
Speaker 2 (01:19:43):
Okay, So okay, first of all, why why yes?
Speaker 10 (01:19:49):
So that I can challenge myself to understand what we
make here in New Zealand, so I can really really
you know, what different crops we have or don't have,
so I can support and discover small New Zealand maids
businesses and just yeah, change out my diet a bit
to just be a lot more local.
Speaker 2 (01:20:08):
I mean that is actually really cool, Like I I
in theory, I love the idea of being more connected
to the seasons and to the produce that is available
in New Zealand and that kind of thing. But the
more I think about it, the trickier it seems it
would really be so so, like to give me an example,
would you eat anything with refined sugar in it?
Speaker 10 (01:20:30):
Okay? I still do bake with sugar, right, Okay, but
you know, like again that sugar I guess isn't grown
in New Zealand. Yeah, yes, like you know, made in
processed here and says like made in New Zealand. Yeah,
right on attack it type of thing. So but I wouldn't,
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I guess. I just living with low waste in general,
which I've tried to do the last few years. I
make a lot of my own stuff, right, which that
has been hard because you know, sometimes you might find
a baking ingredient that says made in Australia, but you
may find, you know, gluten free because I'm Celiac too,
box of biscuits that says made in New Zealand but
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all the ingredients are from out Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:21:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:21:14):
So that's been one that I've just kind of know,
use my better judgment to decide how. Yeah, my challenge,
But I do I do. Really, what I've loved is
eating far more simply. So I do eat a lot
less refined processed foods. Not that I was heavy on
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those anyways, especially being yeah Celiac and low waist, but
I just eat really basic foods.
Speaker 2 (01:21:41):
Oh my gosh, what about bananas?
Speaker 3 (01:21:44):
No?
Speaker 2 (01:21:45):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 10 (01:21:46):
That's literally you've like my main my main.
Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
Challenge has no banana? Yeah, or isn't there a couple
of places in Northland that like, okay, there you go.
Speaker 10 (01:21:58):
All through summer. All through summer, I had a lot
of bananas for me, Like I was eating at least
a banana a day. That's especially as Celia. It's like
a really simple.
Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
You know, try having a seven year old boy in
the house. Honestly, he eats four a day sometimes, oh
my gosh.
Speaker 10 (01:22:15):
And it's really hard to replace, you know, you can't.
It's not really just a quick swap out for a
banana like this. So rice, yep, I really miss right,
Oh my goodness, but what rice with qua which we
grow in New Zealand. But it's not the same, Like, no,
it's not the same. It is much better for you,
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so you know, that's probably much more nutritious. However, I
feel like rice you can eat like every day and
it doesn't get old, you know.
Speaker 2 (01:22:44):
But Keen well, I feel like, yeah, queen wa with
a with a lamb corma just I know you're not
a coat, but like that's not the same. Yeah, that's
not that doesn't hit the same way okay, So what
has been good about this challenge so far?
Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
So I haint the house benefits, you know, literally eating
super simple foods, just not having the option of reaching
for anything that is yeah, you know overseas. I think
also the connection that I feel with New Zealand, like
I knew again I was going to understand all these
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different small producers, but you know, just being far more
engaged and intrigued by what we grow here in our
soils has meant and I've ended up with like different
random types of produce from people's gardens and you know,
experimenting with different things. I saw a lady in the
Corimandel when we were house sitting there. She had made
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her own salt from just ocean water, and I went, oh,
my goodness, of course, like I was researching New Zealand
made salt when I'm whilst staring at the ocean when
you know, a bucket of water, boil it down, which
I'm yet to try. So I think the creativity of
this challenge has definitely outweighed like the sacrifices of rice
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and bananas.
Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Yeah right, It's actually a really amazing thing to try
and achieve. Are you confident you're going to get through
it all, get through the rest of the year.
Speaker 10 (01:24:14):
Yes, I am. However, one of my kind of parts
of the challenge that I thought i'd do so I
wouldn't waste food is I've still been able to eat
what I already had in my pantry. Yeah, now I'm
using up some of those things. So I definitely there
some things that I have been using throughout, especially.
Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Spices and oh my gosh, I.
Speaker 10 (01:24:36):
Think towards the end of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Yeah, I think about this. At first, I was like, yeah,
I get the more I think about it, though, you
just it just means like the most delicious food. Interesting. Yeah,
then then your stuffed, yes, oh my god.
Speaker 10 (01:24:56):
But then you usually find the alternatives, Like we do
grow so much in New Zealand, you know, we even
grow coffee. Like we're out north, we really grow much
black tea. So I've actually gone off black tea. I
don't drink caffeine now. So yeah, all these Them'm saying,
that's been an experiment and I will definitely make it
till the end of the year, but I will probably
have a little hiatus from queneware.
Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
In ye Okay, So what's going to be the what's
going to be like is this is the equivalent of
your death road dish?
Speaker 13 (01:25:22):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:25:22):
He asked people like, what would you have as your
kind of last meal? What is going to be your
first meal of twenty twenty five?
Speaker 10 (01:25:29):
It will be rice? Maybe just playing rice. I really
must write like I'm actually salivating a little bit, just
like a plate of rice with some bananas on the
side and coconuts.
Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:25:46):
I used to have so much like coconut milk coconut
So yeah, I mean maybe that's a new dish in itself.
Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
It's just amazing. Yeah, I'm glad you're doing it because
I couldn't. I'll be honest with you. I couldn't. I
couldn't do it. So I love the in theory. I
love being more connected to what we're producing and practice.
I think I still want to be able to wrap
up a lambcorma with you know, some nice starchy bes
MARTI race.
Speaker 10 (01:26:13):
Well, we can have a balance, right, That's why I'm
doing it. Then I can. I can find out all
these different great places so then other people can just
incorporate them and said not be so extreme.
Speaker 2 (01:26:23):
Good for you, all right, Well, what we'll do is
maybe for our last show of the year in December.
We will we will come back to you then and
see if you're equivalent of a death Row dish. Your
first meal for twenty twenty five is going to be
any difference? If maybe you've got some summer cravings. Maybe
keep up the great work. Nice to chat, Thanks Sex.
That is Kate Hall. You can find her on the
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social media platforms by searching ethically Kate. If you want
to get in touch, ninety two ninety two is our
text number. You can email me as well. Jacket Newstalks
he'd b dot co dot n Z. Sixteen past eleven.
We're off to the Greek Islands next.
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Travel correspondent is Mike Yardley. He's with us. Hey Mike,
Good morning Jack.
Speaker 9 (01:27:10):
The All Blacks by ten. George Stephanopolis by twenty oh.
Speaker 2 (01:27:14):
Okay, so you're referencing the interview that George Stephanopolis is
doing with Joe Biden today. Do you know how long
the interview is going to be?
Speaker 9 (01:27:21):
Apparently it's half an hour. That just really still really
clips and tell you what, Jack, it's not looking flash
one of the clips Bubberly, George asks Joe, have you
watched the debate from last weekend? Joe Biden's not actually
sure if he has or not.
Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
I mean, I said last week I thought it was
I thought I think thought it was done. I still
think he's going to be done. I still think he's
going to be done. But oh my gosh, I can't
wait to see that. That sounds incredibly Yeah, it sounds
amazing and exciting. So because because they were saying originally
that Stephanopoulos was only going to have fifteen minutes. Because
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the thing about Joe Biden is he doesn't do many interviews.
Hasn't done a sit down interview with the New York
Times and the whole time he's been president, which is
very very very uncommon, like very unusual. I think he's
the first president, you know, in kind of modern history
not to do that. And so yeah, a lot of
pressure on this interview today. They were meeting in Wisconsin,
I think, but fifteen minutes. I feel like most people
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can be interviewed for fifteen minutes without too much of
an issue, maybe even Joe Biden. But it might not
be the case. Okay, well we'll make sure that the
news team are looking through those clips and we can
share them, share them with everyone very shortly. As for
the all backs by ten at least, I reckon that's
a I reckon, that's a good part. How are you
feeling about Demo at ten pedifet at fifteen?
Speaker 5 (01:28:42):
Mm?
Speaker 9 (01:28:44):
Yeah, I can understand it, diplomat.
Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
I think it's good. No, it's good. It's the thing
of Damian Mackenzie, especially he's he's kind of reduced the
number of eras he made, but I reckon he's he's
still such an exciting and unpredictable player, and that's what
you need against the English, I think, because they're not
going to exciting and unpredictable much. He's I reckon, he's
way more reliable than he was a few years ago.
(01:29:08):
I think he's really worked on that. That's my view. Anyway,
we'll see I see come this evening.
Speaker 9 (01:29:12):
I think Richie. I see Richie Mlung is in town.
He's got Richie's bus.
Speaker 2 (01:29:16):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I don't know about about I
mean maybe I just haven't. I haven't seen Richie Wong.
I played the season right, so it's kind of hard
to make that go anyway. Hey, we are cruising the
Greek islands this morning, and would you say in your
experience that megaships are best geared for cruising the Agean.
Speaker 9 (01:29:39):
In a word, no, I mean I do think megaships
had the place, and of course I was on that
princesseship a few weeks ago. But with the G and C,
what I think is really important to remember is there
are generally no sea days when you're cruising it. Why
would you want to be on a massive venue backed
ship dressed up like a theme park when the real
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attraction is the onshore experience. So I would say, yeah,
go for a MIDSI to ship, even the smaller ship,
because obviously with the smaller ships, for example, Celestial cruises
is the Greek cruise line in the Aegean. They can
get you into the smaller ports and the whole boarding
and disembarking procedure is just far more seamless. It's just
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so stress free. So yeah, smaller is good in the Aegean.
Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
Didn't didn't you previously work on a cruise ship.
Speaker 9 (01:30:30):
Twenty five years ago?
Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
Jack?
Speaker 9 (01:30:32):
Ten years during mye I was the DJ on a
Greek cruise ship because Royal Olympic Cruise Lines. Yes, on
the flagship vessel no less, the Horus very good.
Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
I had no idea the DJ of all things as well.
Speaker 9 (01:30:48):
Exactly said thing was after nine to eleven Royal Olympic
went busted, not because of me, but because the Americans
stopped traveling for a while. So yeah, they were, they
were sunk literally, So the Royal Olympic Cruise Lines, which
was the Greek cruise line the torch, has been passed
to this company called Celestial Cruises, which is Greek owned
(01:31:08):
and operated headquartered out of Pereas Athens. And I'll tell
you what Jack the world is indeed the village. When
I was cruising on board Celestial Journey a few weeks ago,
I suddenly recognized the head waiter, Pablos dal Impertis, and
he is now, I would say, seventy five, still working
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on board cruise ships. He works with me on board
the Stella Solaris.
Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
That's amazing.
Speaker 9 (01:31:33):
So that was such a cool we reunion. But he's
been working on cruise ships now for over fifty years
with no intention of retiring.
Speaker 2 (01:31:40):
Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So one of the most popular islands.
Speaker 9 (01:31:44):
Well obviously Meconos and Santorini would stand out as the
perennial pin ups, and any self respecting cruise itinery would
include those islands. What about Mekinos as small, she style
absurdly good locking, but she does get crowded very fast somehow, though,
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even though they're is that massive humanity in all of
your lane ways, it's those cubist, white washed houses. That
charm of that architecture just subdues the crowd congestion somehow.
You still think this is magical. And if you want
to go to the best best bar in town, I
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would strongly suggest you book an advance a table at Veranda,
which is that little Venus, that little cocktail strip Inos.
You can book a table in advance, even if you're
just a day tripper and you want to cocktail at
Little Venis. Do that and you'll be able to q
jump the congestion in Mecinos.
Speaker 2 (01:32:44):
Yeah right, Okay, So after tendering ashore, what is the
best way to reach the top of Santorini.
Speaker 9 (01:32:52):
This is a good question because from the old port
it's a thousand feet up to the cliff top town
of Feta, which is that magnificent Tiara of white washed
houses crowning Santorini. The cable car is appealing. The problem
is if you've got multiple ships tendering at the same time,
you will be queuing for a cable car ride for
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several hours. Bugger that. So option to the donkey ride.
A lot of people wonder about the donkeys. I have
to say, those donkeys are looking way better, way healthier
than I remember from twenty years ago. And I've actually
got a weight limit weight limits now, So if you
weigh over one hundred kg, no donkey for you in Greece.
Speaker 7 (01:33:37):
So option three walk it.
Speaker 9 (01:33:40):
Six hundred stone steps gigsig zagging the cliff face up
to Farah. But I did the walk, and I have
to say, not that I weigh a hundred kg.
Speaker 6 (01:33:48):
I hastened to it.
Speaker 9 (01:33:49):
But I have to say the good thing is you
can console yourself by remembering every step you are taking
is burning off that buffet from breakfast.
Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, I reckon, it's a way to do it, even
if it's stinking hot. You know, you've got to take
some water and that kind of thing. But it's just
definitely the best way to do it. You're just so
much more satisfying if you can get then So did
you CRUs take you to any lesser traffic islands, ones
that weren't quite as busy.
Speaker 9 (01:34:11):
Yes, I tell you what, Jack. The real surprise for
me was this little island called Melos. I've never been
there before, but the name is interesting because Melos. Think
veniceter Melo, the statue at the Louver, and this is
where it was discovered a couple of hundred years ago,
that statue of the Greek goddess Aphrodite. It's not so
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terroristy Melos, but unbelievably beautiful. The thing about it is
it's got all the whitewashed villages that are so quintessential Greece.
But then you've got all these dramatic volcanic rock formations,
rock arches, sea caves, bone white beaches like Sutokanico Beach,
which is truly mesmerizing. I was watching the water and
(01:34:54):
it just pivots from turquoise to cobalt, turquoise cob I
don't know how they do it, but it's just extraordinary.
So pack your tags because that will be the dip
of your trip.
Speaker 6 (01:35:05):
Sata Canet be very good.
Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Would you recommend Celestial cruises.
Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
Yeah, I would.
Speaker 9 (01:35:11):
It's a good value four star cruise experience, and as
I mentioned before, it's the only Greek owned and operated
cruise line in the aege and the Mediterranean, and you
really do feel that sense of pride. You've got not
only that passion for their home waters, but you combine
that with three thousand years of cultural heritage. It's pretty
hard to beat.
Speaker 2 (01:35:30):
Yeah, it sounds so good. And when would be the
best time of year to cruise the Agen do you think?
Speaker 9 (01:35:35):
Not now? Too hot, too busy, and it's just insanely
busy through the European summer now, so definitely go for
the shoulder seasons. The good thing about the cruise season
in Greece it generally runs now from March to November,
so I would opt for March April, May maybe, even
though May is actually now busy, But then again October
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November at the end of the year, and you will
have a far more optimized experience.
Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
So good, Okay, it sounds like an amazing little trip. Mike,
Thank you so much for sheer that with us. We'll
make sure all of Mike's tips for cruising the Greek
Islands are available on the news talk z'd be website
before midday. New music for you from Sean Cunningham, he
of Atlas Fame. We've got your book picture for this
weekend as well. Next up though, we're going to take
you to the to Dunedin Orti Porty this afternoon. Jason
(01:36:24):
Pine is gearing up for a massive weekend. On Weekends
Spoil will tell us how things are shaping up at
Forsyth Bar Stadium ahead of the All Backs First Test
of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (01:36:37):
Getting your weekends started.
Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
It's Saturday morning with Jack team on News Talks edb.
Speaker 16 (01:36:52):
So Man.
Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Seven o five Tonight Forsyth Bars Stadium, the All Blacks
in England and the All Blacks First Test of twenty
twenty four, the first under new coach Scott Raiser Robertson
and Jason Pine is there for us at Forsyth Bar,
counting down to what is going to be an epic occasion.
This evening killed a parony, but early, Jack On a
(01:37:27):
bit early. I mean the thing with Forsyth Bar so
is there's no point in ever saying how the conditions
because the conditions are very very stable.
Speaker 20 (01:37:35):
Yes, the roof ensures that I've got to say, though,
cracking day.
Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
In Duneda is every day is a beautiful day in Dunedin. Well, yes,
I mean, you know what I mean, Yes, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 20 (01:37:45):
No, but you know, it's one of those one of
those winter Dunedan mornings where it's it's chilly, but it's
clear skies and sunshine. It's a cracker Jack and I
cannot wait for this game tonight. There are so many
layers of conversation to be had, and we'll unpack some
of those this afternoon. But at the end of the day,
it is Scott Robertson's first test as All Blacks head coach,
(01:38:05):
and I can't to see how this plays out to them.
Speaker 2 (01:38:08):
Yeah yeah, so okay, pantas a picture of seven oh five,
the game starts, whistle blows, what are the things that
you are going to be most keenly focused on in
those opening minutes. It's a great question.
Speaker 20 (01:38:20):
I'm I guess going to try to see whether the
All Blacks of twenty twenty four look like the Crusaders
of the last six or seven years, Whether what worked
for Scott Robertson so so well and so successfully in
red and Black will work in just black and you
know that's things like winning the collision areas, you know,
making sure that you do the basics correctly, but also
(01:38:43):
unleashing you know, the back line to do what you
know they want to do. And on that my secondary focus,
and in fact I'm going to try my best to
just watch him only for a little while, as Damien
McKenzie's performance at number ten and how he runs the cutter.
He was in the ten jersey last time we were
here last year when the All Blacks took on Australia
and had I think what he would call a mixed afternoon. Yeah,
(01:39:05):
Richie Morgan came on and kind of steadied the ship
in many ways. Now this is Damien McKenzie's ship to run,
so his performance this evening will also be well worth
looking at.
Speaker 2 (01:39:15):
Yeah, and tell me that you at least delayed your
wake up time this morning until five or six am.
You surely watched the game with a bit of a delay.
The Euros, No, I didn't.
Speaker 20 (01:39:27):
It was yeah, yeah, I watched them both and you
know both went the distance, didn't they pretty much? Gee,
when the Euros get to this point, it's pretty compelling viewing.
Speaker 2 (01:39:37):
It's so good, honey, I just I love. I know
we've said it already, you know that our entire house
is completely Euros focused at the moment, But it's just
something about tournament football that is so exciting and getting
up starting the day with it as well, you know,
curling up on the couch for the cocoa and yeah
it's great. I need to come rid of your place.
Yeah yeah, yeah. Who are you feeling about the favorites then?
(01:39:58):
Now that now that the Germans are knocked out? Are
you feeling like it's Spain's tournament to lose the Swiss caps? Yep, yep.
Speaker 20 (01:40:03):
Well but Spain France, what a game is going to
be in the semi fire finals, you know. Then tomorrow
obviously England and going to try and you know, get
their way pastraight yeah, waight through exactly the Dutch you know,
and Turkey as we call them now. In the other quarterfinal.
Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
I think Spain.
Speaker 20 (01:40:20):
I actually thought Spain before this morning, and I just
thought that they would get find a way to get
past Germany. I didn't think it'd take them on hundred
and nineteen minutes. But here we are. Yeah, but yeah,
Spain for me, But Spain France in a semi final.
I think Wednesday morning that game get the coco on.
Speaker 2 (01:40:36):
I'll tell you what, this morning was a morning to
feel like an old man though. So you had spain
right that they're star wingers. One of them is sixteen
and on one of the other ones twenty one. And
then the German coach is younger than me. Yeah. The
German coach is thirty six. Yeah, oh my god, this
is nothing in my life. No, see, this is the
(01:40:58):
jacksture in your life. You've now arrived at Jack. I
arrived here a long time ago, don't you worry about
I was like, this is how is this happening? Anyway? No,
it's been great. So what's on the show this afternoon?
Ben Smith?
Speaker 20 (01:41:08):
Straight away after midday Rugby Royalty down these parts. Of
course we'll also get a bit of a look inside
the All Blacks camper an English viewpoint as well. The
other thing I want to focus on is New Zealand
is under seventeen men's basketball team overnight making history. That's
through to the semi finals of the of the Under
seventeen World Cup. No New Zealand under seventeen site's ever
gone that far. So I have a look at that
(01:41:29):
and Chanelle Harris Tavita after two ahead of the Warriors
Bulldogs game.
Speaker 2 (01:41:33):
Very good, looking forward to it. Have you a great
time in Forsyth parts today, looking forward to this afternoon
and to this evening. Of course Jackson Pine with us
with weekend sport right after the midday news and of
course we can have that All Blacks game live for
your news talks. He'd be kickoff five past seven in
Donedan tonight the All Blacks England test number one for
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6 (01:41:52):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
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really unwanted turn when their holiday homes become interrupted by
acts of violence and vandalism and damage. And there's this
weird real war in pine Ridge raging against these wealthy
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second homeowners and those of pine Ridge who've been left
behind in the Hiles and crisis and they can't afford
to live where they're living. And there's this group of
people called not Just for August, meaning not just for
the August holidays, and the leader of this is a
guy called Robbie, and they're ramping up their campaign against
these London property owners when these two families arrive and
the real locals are having to make deal with these
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static caravans in all year round, and you know, they
haven't really sort of done anything but bad. They've protests
have been low key and egging cars and a bit
of graffiti on walls, and then somewhere along the line
this has got really serious, right. And the start of
the book is situated around a house falling into the sea,
but most of the story takes place and the lead
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up to this with the dynamics between the characters and
becoming increasingly complex. So you get this secrets and lies
and acts and criminal activities and lots of mistrust and
hatreds and tangled relationships and amongst it, and lots of
greed and envy, and you know, locals versus outsiders debate
when it comes to the property ownership. And because the
story is told over these dual timelines and multiple points
(01:43:43):
of view, you get to see all of the characters
and their secrets and flaws, and the way that characters
react so differently from each other when they're in the
same situation, and that divide between class and in generation
women relationships, and just lots of intriguing dynas going on
in this book. And yet it's really interesting the way
everybody kind of melds together or doesn't, as the case
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may be.
Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
They are nice, okay, very good. That sounds intriguing. So
that's our holiday. It's by Louise Candlish. Robin Harding has
written The Haters.
Speaker 12 (01:44:13):
So this is about a school counselor called Cameron, and
she's just published a new book and this is finally
her dreams have come true and everything is going really
well until she gets this message from an unknown person
and she tries to forget about it, and then she
gets this absolutely scathing one star review on her book,
and then all of a sudden, there's loads of bad
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reviews and online trolling starts to creep into her personal
life and it really crosses the line from angry reader
to feeling like someone and is out to get it.
And there's so many interesting and suspicious characters in this book.
But also on the flip side of this, her personal
life isn't going too well either, and her job and
(01:44:54):
her teenage daughter Eliza, and her new boyfriend Theo, and
even her longtime friends and then his husband and his wife,
and writers groups and work colleagues, and she gets to
the point.
Speaker 17 (01:45:03):
Where she just doesn't know who to trust.
Speaker 12 (01:45:06):
And throwing into this mix is this very unlikable student
in her professional life who she tries to help but
she just can't. And so you get this book that's
interspersed with chapters from Cameron's own book, a book called Burnt.
Also you get this clever book within a book, and
her book is actually about young teens with problems, and
in her mind it's all fiction and not based on
(01:45:28):
any of her students and their problems, and you get
this very tense story about social media and engaging with
trolls and how horrible people can be when they hide
behind that ammininity of the Internet, and her life feels
like it's systematically broken apart. And it's less thriller like
than Robin Harding's previous books have been and more this
character driven domestic suspense novel and sly reveals in secrets,
(01:45:53):
and it's very tense, and you keep turning the pages
because actually just really want to know what happens.
Speaker 2 (01:45:58):
Yes, yeah, that sounds sounds great. Okay, So that's The
Haters by Robin Harding. Catherine's first book is Our Holiday
by Louise Candlish. And make sure both of those titles
are up on the News Talks. He'd be websites if
you want to read them too, seventeen to twelve on
News Talks, he'd be new music from Sean Cunningham for
you in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1 (01:46:16):
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Speaker 21 (01:46:24):
It be picks me r tis me out, sports, my cigarette,
drink my temment, tix me home lives there, summer dream
could be my home.
Speaker 2 (01:46:46):
Swig mir versus Sean Cunningham. That song is called Honeybee.
He's just released an album called Whatever that Is, and
our music review at Cel Clifford has been listening Morina Marina.
Speaker 17 (01:47:00):
That's actually one of my favorites entire album, Honeybee, and
a reason to go back and listen to it a
few times. That driving percussion beat that you can hear
is actually Sewn slapping his knee.
Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
Oh wow, okay, yeah playing At the same time, he's like,
where we have like the symbols between your knees and
what one man.
Speaker 17 (01:47:28):
I mean if he wants to be a solo artist,
you know, like I mean, maybe he hasn't visualized that
for himself.
Speaker 2 (01:47:34):
Was I'm not being crazy.
Speaker 4 (01:47:36):
It was.
Speaker 17 (01:47:38):
Also some really great street performers who is amazing.
Speaker 2 (01:47:42):
Sorry, anyway, we've immediately the.
Speaker 17 (01:47:46):
Great thing about recording a solo album is you can
do all the layers yourself, and so he created this
percussion drum beat on his knee and it is just
knee slaps. Mike nice and close recorded it like that,
and it gives us real driving rhythm to underneath. Inspired
by the Beatles. If you watch that massive long docker
(01:48:06):
of the Beatles putting their album together before they broke up. Oh,
Paul McCartney's also sometimes done, you know, like a driving
percussion beat or something that's just playing around with something
that's not a traditional instrument. Sort of influenced by by
those guys. But yeah, Honeybee, great song. Definitely one of
my favorites on the album. This is a really cool
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evolution I think for Sean Cunningham. I mean he was
huge here. If we give a little bit of history
to the band.
Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
Atlas, yeah we had, but we played it.
Speaker 17 (01:48:35):
Did you play Crawl?
Speaker 4 (01:48:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (01:48:39):
That was just.
Speaker 17 (01:48:41):
Take you back all wearing our bootleg jeans, massive chunky
belts with the big yeah like emo rock. You know,
you're wearing a dark eyeliner and your fringe all weird
and spiky over your forehead and just look. He had
such a cool voice that really stood out on that song,
and I think that's what made it stand out.
Speaker 2 (01:49:02):
Was very successful. That song was incredibly successful in New Zealand, and.
Speaker 17 (01:49:06):
So he carried on with that band for a little while.
But then what broke them up. I didn't know this
was that he lost his voice. So he lost his
ability to sing, and after like going back to Nashville,
he had to seek like some full on treatment and
things and was going through therapy for his voice. Turns
out major allergies, but also the past smoker just all
caught up on him, and yeah, he had to like
(01:49:29):
go on some full on allergy stuff. Instead of start
of getting his voice back, he went into another band
when he was in Nashville and in the States, and
they were quite successful for a while too over there,
but he said he got sick of the band politics
right my Love, Yeah, totally right, And he'd been banned
since high school and it was like, what else, what's
the evolution next? And so I think taking the solo
(01:49:50):
thing means that he's probably you know, you're mature, you grow,
and you also are willing to delve into your emotions
a little bit further. And he definitely does that. One
of the title track, whatever that is. He said he
wrote that about six months prior to his dad passing, right,
And so we've been having these really intense chats with
his dad about aging and you know, you you still
(01:50:14):
feel like you're twenty something inside, but your body's seventy something,
and you know what does that mean and what does
it look like and what does it mean for life?
So quite a special song for him, I think, to
share and have on his album after his you know
dad eventually passing, and that's actually been a really big
single for him to so again, he has that really
stellar voice. Sometimes he reminds me of Passenger with that,
(01:50:39):
you know, that real rolling rhythm and melody that Passenger
gets gets his songs, and when it's an acoustic guitar
and a few sort of drum percussion of bits behind him,
he's got that kind of sort of indie folk sort
of sound about him. Yeah, And it's really great because
it feels like he's more in tune with what he
wants to do musically. So I think I like that
(01:51:00):
evolution in him finding his place, I suppose after being
a band member for so yeah. So this album definitely
is more touching on his personal stories, his personal journeys,
and for me, I feel like you can connect with
him more as an artist because of that and just
finding what his style is. And I get that sometimes
you try and be all the different things, right, you
(01:51:22):
do rock and you do pop, that actually you can
bring all of those things together and make a really
cohesive musically. There's some really beautiful moments in this and
sometimes it's because it's quite simplistic and more of that
acoustic and in other times it's like lots of layers
with the electronics stuff he's put in as well, so
(01:51:43):
more encompassing full anthem type songs, you know what I mean.
And again, now that I've seen Passenger at live a
couple of times, it's kind of something that he sort
of does too, definitely reflective on a lot of his
One of his songs called Lonesome No More, that's a
really good track too, and that's sort of him commenting
about his sobriety journey. So again, real personal stories, you
(01:52:06):
can do that when it's just about you. But I
really like what he's done here is he's really taken on.
But the album goes on a bit of a journey,
so you know, from start to finish, just quite a
good way to listen to it. A few times, I
think beautiful music to perhaps sometimes just having the background
while you're doing stuff. Other times real turn up tunes
you can kind of come in and out of this album,
(01:52:27):
which I really I think is is really great, real
beautiful listen, and he is coming here to tour I
believe in summer some stage.
Speaker 2 (01:52:34):
Very good as a solo artist. So what did you
give it?
Speaker 17 (01:52:37):
Get your hands sleps ready, isn't eight out of ten
for me?
Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
That is? I knew you'd be concerned. I was wrong.
It wasn't. It was Dick van Dyke and Mary Poppins.
Speaker 17 (01:52:51):
Remembers you blur those two movies together like something, am I?
Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Yeah, surely I'm not the only one who does our fault.
Speaker 17 (01:52:59):
They cast the same cast for.
Speaker 2 (01:53:00):
Nearly every exactly. Yeah, so it was Dick Van Dyke
and Mary Propins sorry who was doing the right there back?
Which is totally unrelated to Sean Cunningham, just to be totally.
Speaker 17 (01:53:10):
Clear, so we could pitch it to him, right.
Speaker 2 (01:53:13):
Yeah, maybe he's a talented guy. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Thanks
of Stelle the stelle quimage our music reviewer. There eight
out of ten for whatever that is from Sean cunning
and what have a bit more of a listen in
a few minutes right now? It is eight to twelve.
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Sean Cunningham. This is, whatever that is, See you next week, Saddle.
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What is life if you don't live it awright?
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Is it just used to turn.
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To we go again?
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Or is this.
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Really the same We all stuck in time for every
kids screwing up now as.
Speaker 21 (01:55:27):
Much as we ever did.
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Still get in high, Still get in by whatever.
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That is, whatever that.
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Just trying.
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