Full Show Podcast: 27 July 2024

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And He's Hello, good morning, and welcome to news Talk's
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Big show coming up after ten o'clock. Our feature interview
this morning is Irish comedian Ed Burn. He's just one
of those incredibly witty, slash droll, slash clever Irish comedians
of which there are a few, let's be honest. And
not only is he touring New Zealand, not only are

(01:06):
we going to talk comedy, I'm also going to hit
him up about the chase. He won the chase ed
Byrne won the chase, so I'm really looking forward to
catching up with him as well as that a couple
of fantastic shows to get you in the Olympic spirit
that I'm going to recommend in our screen time segment.
Right now, it's eight minutes past nine, Jack Tame and
yes it is upon us. We are exactly seven minutes

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away from the conclusion of the opening ceremony of the
twenty twenty four Summer Olympic Games. We've just seen an
array of big name sports stars handling the baton, passing
the baton in the Olympic Flame, Zidan passing it on
to Rafael Nadal, who yes, isn't French but has one

(01:52):
a few French opens in his time. Serena Williams coming
up the seend as well. The opening ceremony is a
total cheese fest. Let's be honest, and I think after
this mornings opening ceremony, about a third of the athletes
competing in these games probably will have caught a cold
from standing out in the rain for so long. Nonetheless,

(02:14):
I for one, am absolutely fizzing. I love the Olympics.
I absolutely love them. I always have, And even though,
of course I can see clearly enough that they are
an obscenely commercialized orgy of hyper capitalism, consumption and junk
food sponsorship deals, I have never wavered in suspending my

(02:37):
cynicism for a few weeks every four years, and I
doubt I ever will. Usually the only things that get
the whole world's attention are bad things, right, think about it.
The whole world's attention. Usually it's usually it's war, maybe
it's terrorism, natural disasters. Those are the only things that

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get the whole worlds attention, the only things that unite
the attention of the entire world. But the Olympics are
about as close as you manity comes to a shared
experience of and shared interest in something good. It's about
our only truly shared collective celebration. I remember once filming

(03:22):
alongside a super conservative Mennonite community in rural Pennsylvania. This
is twelve years ago, and the Mennonites are similar to
the Amish. They essume most modern technology and deliberately cloister
themselves from much of the rest of the world.

Speaker 3 (03:40):
Now.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I remember when I was filming, I asked a woman
from this community if she had heard of the Olympics,
and she told me that she'd never watched them, she'd
never seen them, but she did think she'd heard of them.
She asked me, was it something where people from different
countries came together? Yeah, I said, yeah, yeah, that's it.
That's it, it is. My favorite Olympic events are the

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primal ones, ones where you don't need crazy specialized equipment,
ones where the barriers to entry are relatively low. You know,
who can swim the fastest, who can sprint the quickest,
who can jump the highest, do the most impressive flips?
Outside of New Zealand's metal prospects and competitors, these are

(04:24):
the three events and athletes that are most excited about
at these Games. Number one, the fifteen hundred meters an
absolute classic. I don't know, maybe it's the legacy of
Snell and love Lock, et cetera, but the thing that
I love about the fifteen hundred meters is it is
the shortest running race to be properly tactical. At the

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same time, I was in the front row of the
stands at the Olympics in Rio and I remember, I
remember just how shocking it was seeing how fast the
fifteen hundred meters runners were moving. And I know this
seems obvious, but like TV gets you close, but you
still lose something in perspective. And the men's contest this year,

(05:06):
their favorite is Norway's defending Olympic champion, and if jakub Ingebritson,
which is his name, if he wins it again, I
think most middle distance running fans will probably consider him
the greatest men's fifteen hundred meter runner. Ever, the second
event I'm really excited about is another running race and
another all time great, Aliub Kubchogi is the boss of

(05:29):
Olympic marathoning. So he was Olympic champion in twenty sixteen,
Olympic champion again in twenty twenty, but his pursuit of
a third consecutive title puts him in a real master
versus apprentice clash with another Kenyon, the world record holder,
this guy Calvin Kiptum. And again TV's good, but you
just can't appreciate how fast they're actually running until you

(05:51):
see it right. And finally, the athlete I'm most excited
about at these games outside of the kiwis, of course,
is Simone Biles. There they just aren't really sufficient descriptors
for what she is capable of doing. But seeing her
at her best spinning and flipping and a kind of

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blur throwing herself into unbelievably complex and dangerous contortions, really
it really pushes my ingrained understanding of what the human
body is actually capable of. Like I see Simone Biles
at her best, and I think I sincerely did not

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know that Homo sapiens were capable of doing that. I
was team Simone when she pulled out of the last
Olympic Games. You know, how could you throw yourself into
the stuff she does without absolute supreme confidence? And I've
watched all of the redemption documentaries. I've followed her in

(06:54):
the years since the last Games. I know she's getting
on a bit in Gymnast years, but she is clearly
an all time great and I am desperate, absolutely desperate
for her to pull off a goal or you know,
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cost supply. The opening sereeny of the Olympic Games has
been going for a long time now. If you haven't
seen any of the images, it's been fairly impressive. Plenty
of kind of schmalty, cheesy stuff in there. When I
started watching this morning, they had various athletes coming via

(07:39):
the Sin. So they were coming on boats down the
Sein one by one. It was absolutely pouring with rain.
They had some breakdancers and people on bmx's kind of
doing stunts nearby to try and entertain everyone. And of
course the New Zealand team was looking great, but it
has to be seen that almost all of the athletes
looked absolutely completely nutterly drenched, which I'm not sure was

(08:03):
kind of ideal preparation for the start of competition. But
since then they've had various speeches and things and they're
at the absolute end of the opening ceremony. Now Tony Parker,
who is the French basketball champion, is currently carrying the
Olympic torch past that amazing triangular edifice that marks the

(08:25):
opening to the Louver Museum. So he's doing that at
the moment. I'm sure they will light the Olympic torch
in the games will officially be underway. Kevin Milner is
with us next on Saturday morning. Right now, it's called
a quarter past nine you with Jack Tame. This is
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EDB eighteen minutes past nine on News Talks CV. Thanks
if your message, Jack, I'm with you. The fifteen hundred
meters are still my favorite race. John Walker still amazes me.
Tactics and speed are central. Going and watching it on
YouTube is one of my favorite activities, says how are Yeah,
it is fun to go back and look at ultily
hunry meters racis it doesn't go for too long as well, Jack,

(09:09):
My husband Charlie says, watching the running at the Games
disconnects you from watching live as opposed to on TV. Yeah,
I mean it's great. Obviously the TV coverage of Olympic
sports is amazing these days, but there is something really
special when you can see athletes doesn't have to be
at the Olympics performing at that level and get a
true appreciation of what they are doing, how fast they're running,

(09:32):
how high they're jumping, all that kind of thing. Ninety
ninety two is our tech number. We're going to catch
up with our sport over very shortly. Get his take
on New Zealand's prospects at these Olympic Games. Still feeling
pretty gutted after that result of the New Zealand men's
sevens in the quarter final yesterday. I mean to be
knocked out this early of medals contention, this early in

(09:54):
the Olympics is pretty gutting, so we're going to get
to our sport has thoughts on all of that. Kevin
Milne is weather US first up this morning, though, Good
morning Kevin.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
Morning Jack.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
So was the Paris opening ceremony the best or terrible?

Speaker 6 (10:07):
Well?

Speaker 5 (10:08):
What do you think?

Speaker 3 (10:08):
I mean?

Speaker 2 (10:09):
To be honest, Okay, I love the Olympics. I find
the opening ceremony always just a bit stage challenge. It's
a bit cheesy for me, and today's was no exception.
Just just seeing the last drenched athletes coming down the scene.

(10:29):
I mean, I'm sure it's really fun to be a
part of and stuff, but yeah, it's it's probably I'm
probably the wrong person to be asking, to be perfectly honest,
Although we were talking to it, well we're talking to
a colleague on the ground there and he reckoned it
was the best ever, So there you go.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
Yeah, yeah, well there you go.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
I mean I think it was great. I think there'll
be a lot of people who would say it was awful. Yeah,
but because actually it was pretty radically different than anything
else I've seen. Yeah, and the big transvestite sort of
yeah presence. I mean I just thought it was great,
really modern a little bit challenging to some extent because

(11:09):
everything was so different. Yeah, but i'd say good on
the old French. Yeah for shaking it up a that.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah. Yeah, No, I'm sure it'll be well received. I
just feel I'm just fired about it's even going to
be sick because it's just been absolutely pouring with rain.
I've got a couple of friends who are there for
work and they say that it's warm. But still, if
you're looking to be performing at your best, do you
really want to be standing out in the elements for hours?
And anyway, Kevin, you have been thinking about spectacles and

(11:38):
a whole range of fields this week, because as well
as the Olympic ceremony, you've been thinking about New Zealand's
greatest ads.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
I mean, I thought we could talk about the Marketing
Association's call for New Zealanders to both the best ever
New Zealand TV ad campaign. I think they put it.
They're bringing it down into decades, but I thought you'd
just throw them all in together. So here we are
the best ever New Zealand TV ads going right back

(12:08):
to the seventies and eighties. Two ads absolutely dominate, The
great Crunchy bar Train Robbery and the Extraordinary Well that
was an amazing production done on the chief actually featuring
just about every well known TV actor in the country
at the time, and a brilliant song that was the seventies.

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And in eighty one came the Basf Dear John ad,
which was so good I am sure that the ad
had been made in the States, but no, we've done it.
Before we leave that era, I've got to mention the
huge scale Europa traveling on ad with the coolest models
and musicians ever assembled for an ad in New Zealand,

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and of course the Crumpy and Scotty ads for Toyota.
Then along came the Anchor Family ads, and around about
that time you're starting to watch TV, I think we've
gone even further back and when you were born there
So then along came the Anchor Family Ads, which was
basically a soap opera. Yeah, each episode lasting about a minute.

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It captured the country's hearts for years. And similarly, Spot
the Dog forty three different episodes that around from ninety
ninety one to ninety eight and had us all howling
into our soups. When spot that gorgeous Jack Russell finally
turned up back home and speaking.

Speaker 4 (13:34):
About a good cry.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
I just loved telecoms keep in Touch, Father's Day ad
with Cat Stevens's gorgeous Father and Son song. What are
the best ads on at the moment? Well, I'll go
for Pack and Sage stick Man, though it's probably near
the end of its run, and of course Tina from
Turner's But come on, Turner's time you made a new one.

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My favorite ad of all time, Jack, I have to
go back to before you were born, which seems really weird.
The basf John d Let's fly it again, Dear.

Speaker 7 (14:09):
Joe, how I hate to ride now?

Speaker 2 (14:13):
Answer, Dear Joe, I must let you know tonight then.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
For you is gone, so I'm sending you this side.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
Tonight.

Speaker 7 (14:32):
I'm with another you like him, George, He's your brother.
Sit to you forever.

Speaker 8 (14:45):
John.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
It might have been before my time, Kevin, but I've
definitely heard it. I've definitely heard it before, and they'll
take a lot of our listeners back. I reckon, there
is just one one ad you're missing in your list?
Can I gently suggest it? We are the boys from
down on the Farm. We really know how cheese. There's
no bit of Ellie than Cheersdale. It's always shorter.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Please.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
It would have been before your burst too, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (15:09):
I think it was. There's also the KFC one, you
know the cows and the sheep and the birds and
the horses were moving and by yes, yeah, I was thinking.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
Of jingles right, yeah, yeah, not that one.

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
With yeah yeah, as a bit of a classic. Hey,
thank you. I know our listeners will have many thoughts
on that as well.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
Here you go.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
How about the Buggerad. I think that's got to be
the all time greatest. I think, certainly, of like the
last thirty years, the Buggerad has probably has probably had
the most impact or coverage right just you know, the
Olympic Games opening ceremony are almost done. Currently Celine Dion
is singing, so I'm sure we'll all be able to

(15:47):
enjoy that. But I think they are finally reaching their conclusion.
Haven't been running for about four hours now, twenty five
past nine. We'll catch up with our sport O necks
get his Olympic picks on newstalk s dB.

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health professional. Chack Team twenty nine past nine on Newstalks,
he'd be. I just feel so bad to be pulling
our Sporto Andrew Savill away from what looks like an
incredible celendi on performance at the opening ceremony of the
twenty twenty four Paris Olympics. What are your thoughts on
the opening ceremony so far? Sae have no doubt you
would have said the alarm set for five o'clock this morning.

Speaker 9 (17:39):
Oh, I didn't get up solally, Jack, But how do
you cut into my selecting time? Yes, an interesting opening ceremony.
Very how can we put this? Very French? Yes, shock horror,
very avant garde and very catwalkie. Yep, thanks, you quite
enjoyed it. I did watch large chunks. I love watching

(18:01):
a New Zealand team coming. It always gives you a
bit of a thrill and a bit of a buzz. Yeah,
very different with the teams coming in on those boats
along the river's end. Good on bench mixing it up.
What always amazes me, Jack is not necessarily the performances,
but just the sheer coordination and the planning and the

(18:23):
money and the timing that goes into these opening ceremonies.
It's staggering. And then you add in these days the
television shot coordination and the direction. It's it's mind blowing,
that's what That's what sort of amazes me each of.

Speaker 4 (18:40):
Every four years, is just the.

Speaker 2 (18:42):
Logistics background goes into these things.

Speaker 10 (18:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (18:45):
Yeah, and the money is obviously staggering as well. But
I thought a lovely touch with Nadal carrying the tours,
you know, the king of the King of Paris at
certain at this time of year, usually Roland Garross. Nice
to see Carl Lewis, Nadia Kommon each also involved to
Olympic legends. I think the Serena William's links will a

(19:06):
bit tenuous, but all in all I thought, Gee, was
this is this is very French put on them for
giving it a real crack, and it's very different and
a lot of people, yeah, liked it. I'm sure I'm
sure Arthur Porrett would be rolling in his grave to
see a bearded woman involved in me.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Olympics ceremony to their own Jack exactly. So yeah, I
mean New Zealand obviously has you know, some pretty strong
prospects heading into these games. I'll tell you what, though,
I were tuned into that seven's quarter final yesterday morning,
and really that you know, sevens is such a desperate

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sport at the best of times, you know the games
can turn on the on the kind of finest margins.
But really I just felt so gutted for Scott carrying.
Those guys are so disappointed to be knocked out as
before the opening ceremony.

Speaker 9 (20:01):
That's going to be a new record. And I don't
know why the play going off the fifth between fifth
and eighth and tomorrow. I don't think there's any other
sport in the games that plays off for the minor placings,
do they anyway? Yeah, I feel for the guys who,
like Scott Curry veteran need be his last games. And

(20:23):
that game summed up sevens a bit late. Crickets T
twenty It can be a bit of a crapshirt times
roll of the dice where upsets caused regularly. But they
had their chance in the second half to nail a
couple of tries, didn't take it, so they'll be looking
their wounds for sure. All hope now with the women's
sevens team, the gold medalists from Tokyo, so that would

(20:48):
be hot favorite or one of the favorites. Anyway, Lisa
Carrington and that amazing kayak team, they'll pick up some golds.
I'd say five or six goals, if not two more. Jack,
I'm really The one thing I'm really looking forward to
usul and wise is this mass of four hundred meters
freestyle swimming final which is.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Tomorrow morning.

Speaker 9 (21:12):
I think from memory if featuring the Beaden's Eric of feweather.
So there's only been five occasions in history where women
female swimmers have gone under four minute barrier, and four
of them are in this race, which is quite incredible.
It's like it's like one of those one hundred meters
spread of instrument has gone by when you've had absolute megastars.

(21:33):
These these are the rock stars of the pool. So
really looking forward to that.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
Yeah, no, I can't wait for that. That's going to
be an amazing, amazing contest. Amon Biles, do you reckon
she can get back on top?

Speaker 10 (21:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (21:43):
I reckon again like you. I just you know, every
four years you tune into gymnastics, you never you'd never
you'd never otherwise. But that's that's also the positive of
the other games that you've watched a lot of sports
you'd never even think twice about watching and those primal ones.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
It's the ones. I love the ones where it's just
a person, you know, like just we need very little equipment,
you know. It's kind of a you know, just like
really basic kind of human athletic competition.

Speaker 9 (22:15):
Yeah, like judo, like sensing, you know, very old and
yeah sport and yeah, very non uh not, many innovations
have happened over the years, right, No, it's just it's
just kind of you're looking really looking forward to someone bars.
I think she'll do it.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
She's absolutely incredible, No, she really is.

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Hey, thank you so much. We're actually going to tell
you about us Simon Biles documentary you may or may
not have seen, hopefully haven't yet. That is screening just
in time for the Olympic Games. It has been put
out now, so in our screen time segment after ten
o'clock this morning, and to tell you about that. I
saw it the other day. It's so good and it's
made me all the more keen for someone Biles to
pull off the perfect kind of story arc, you know,

(22:59):
the redemption story the last Olympics. Of course, she got
the yips a little bit. She didn't want to compete.
I think really bravely decided that she was I'm going
to compete in a couple of events this time around.
Though she's older, she's wiser, she's more settled. So we'll
see how she goes. Twenty five to ten on newsbalks,
he'db news talks, he'db you were, Jack Tame, thank you
so much for your feedback this morning. Regarding ads, everyone

(23:19):
seems to agree that Kevin has missed out one ad
and his top last sea. I thought he had missed
out the Cheeresdale cheese ad, And yes, a couple of
you agree with that. But Jack says, Emma, come on,
the might have ten kids and the Sandpit ads still
makes me laugh. Dot dot dot Ozzies. Yeah, I think,
actually that is probably a pretty good call.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
Jack.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Might a ten your dreaming mate?

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Come on?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Says Georgie. Yeap, okay, might to ten Maybe gets onto
the list as well, so we can add Cheesdale and
might a ten to Kevin's a little list there if
you've got any other thoughts. Ninety two ninety two is
the text number this morning. Francesca Rudkin is our film
reviewer and she's with us now. Hey, Francesca Good morning.
Have you been watching the opening ceremony?

Speaker 11 (23:58):
I am about to go and do that. I that
exercise this morning.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Look at you classic Classics. See everyone else. The Olympics
is an opportunity for them to sit on the couch
while they watch the words best athletes. You are just
putting us all the shame, making sure that you're going
out and putting yourself amongst those best athletes before you
do any viewing.

Speaker 9 (24:17):
No, don't you worry. Don't you worry.

Speaker 11 (24:19):
I am exceptionally good at sitting on account.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Very good. Okay, we've got two films to discuss this morning.
Let's start off with the film showing in cinemas at
the moment. Tell us about mister Blake, at your service.

Speaker 11 (24:30):
So this is a rather charming, delightful, modest little film.
It's a gentle, sweet comedy at stars John Nalkovich as
a widowed English businessman. He is grieving the loss of
his wife. She died about four months ago, and he's
just sort of struggling to find his place in the world.
So he decides to return to the French estate, to
the manor house where he met his wife, and he

(24:53):
just wants to go and spend some time there quietly reflecting,
feel like he's close to her, and just recover a
little bit. But when he arrives, there's a little bit
of a miscommunication and it is presumed that he is
applying for a job to be the butler, and they
kind of relatively quickly a loot him and the chef
kind of work out the mistake, but he sort of

(25:14):
agrees to help out. And we've got this beautiful old home.
The owner she is also a widow. They really can't
afford to run it. They need to tune it into
kind of accommodation. There's there's a brilliant chef who's trying
to run everything. There's a kind of a quirky groundsman,

(25:36):
and then there's this wonderful woman who sort of helped out.
You just got this eclectic group of people who are
stuck in a bit of a rut and needed better help.
And it turns out that mister Blake is exactly what
they mean. Look, this is a very hopeful film. It's
it's sweet and charming. It's a comedy, but it's probably
not laugh out loud. It's more just puts a bit

(25:56):
of a smile on your face. It's quite a predictable
narrative that sort of unfolds. But what is the reason
why it's really easy to joy is because it's the
film sort of fill of hope. It is a film
about kind of getting out of a rat and how
this one person can bring people back together and remind
them of who they are and who they're not. It's
a bit of a meditation on loss and regret and
that it's never too late to repair relationships. This was

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released in It sort of finishes in Christmas time in
the film, and this was released just before Christmas in France,
and I can completely understand how it would be sort
of that feel good sort of festive season flick, but
very very pleasant. I would say that this is one
of those lovely Sunday afternoon flecks that you might just
go to the cinema and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Ah very good. Okay, cool, So let's mister Blake at
your service, Let's have a listen to another film. This
is the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Speaker 3 (26:50):
Gus March Phillips. I have a mission I want you
to lead.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It's time to do this on my own team.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
You won't like them. They're all.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Bad, they'll need to be.

Speaker 5 (27:10):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
This one is streaming on Prime Video tell Us about
the Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare.

Speaker 11 (27:15):
So this is sort of based on, kind of inspired
by a true story. It's based on the book called
The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare, How Churchill Secret Warriors set
Europe a blaze and gave birth to modern black Ops.
A very long title for a book, but it kind
of does explain what's going on here. So this Henry

(27:37):
caviln Alan Richson, who people might know from the TV
show Reacher, and it's kind of like an old school
boys kind of adventure story, an old fashioned kind of
schoolboys adventure story where the good guys who happened to
be a bunch of rogues, kind of misfits and outlies
take on the Nazis in their own unique way. So
they go on a mission that is approved by Winston

(27:59):
Churchill but will never publicly be admitted to be approved
if everything goes terribly wrong, called Operation Postmas, and they
have to get behind enemy lines and with Africa to
destroy German U boats that are cutting off Britian supplies
supplied and also stopping the US from entering the war,
so it's thought to be a very impossible kind of mission,
but very desperate they send this sort of motley crew

(28:22):
off and off they go. This is plenty of deadpan
lines in it. In Fleming is a character quick, sort
of wise cracked, dashing, very manly characters and very competent
female character as well. Lots of gunfire and knife work

(28:42):
and kind of these guys.

Speaker 4 (28:44):
Nothing is.

Speaker 11 (28:46):
You know, not doable to these guys. I was watching
this film, I thought to myself, this does feel like
a bit of a a bit of a not quite
Guy Richie film. Actually it turns out that actually is
directed by Guy.

Speaker 9 (29:02):
Richard, so I was a little disappointed.

Speaker 11 (29:04):
I was like, I feel like you're trying to be
a Guy Richie Field, but you haven't quite got there.
It doesn't quite have the It doesn't quite have the
or the energy and energy forth. And I said, oh,
I think there we going. It is Airichary film, but
it's look, it's great entertainment. And yeah, it didn't didn't
quite farow as well as I was hoping it would,

(29:25):
because I think the subject material and the characters and
the actors were all there. But it's still good, good
good entertainment. Yeah, okay, it kind of kind of harks
back to a lot of sort of rich old session
films as well. Yeah, you've got a bit of adventure
feel to it.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Nice, okay, cool. That's the Ministry of ungentlemanly Warfare. So
that is streaming on prime video. Francisca's first film, Mister
Blake at Your Service, is showing in cinemas now, Jack,
That odd Fellow's mint lolli ad always makes me laugh,
you know, the one with the high heels. The guy
with the high heels and his pink tights, says Brendan
di Venus, is all. What about togs togs undies, ooh,

(30:04):
togs talks Undies. Tost Onis was good? Was it? Probably
is pretty close to being on the list, isn't it?
If you only thought's ninety two? Ninety two is our
text number, tell us what you reckon? The best ads
are in New Zealand ever accord to ten you were jactame.
This is News Talk's EDB.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
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Speaker 7 (30:31):
I don't want to colder, You don't want to colder.

Speaker 2 (30:43):
It is thirty Minister ten. You were jactam this Saturday
morning on newstalks 'b So the Olympic opening ceremony has
wrapped up, goes on for a wee while it was
pretty dramatic in the end, but very shortly I'm going
to tell you about all the Olympic events you need
to know about today. Basically, things kick off from about
seven o'clock New Zealand time tonight, so I'll give you
a rundown of the keywis who are in action this

(31:04):
evening very shortly. Thanks for you back. Had heaps and
heaps of text about the best ads. Come on, Jack,
it's moments like these. You need Minty's That was a
great series of ads. Is there any one Minty's ad
that stands out though as being an all time classic?
Let me know your thoughts as well as that if
neither of those movie picks sounded like a bit of you.
This weekend, We've got a couple of TV shows we're
going to tell you about after ten o'clock this morning,

(31:25):
including the show Time Bandits, which is kind of a
remake of the eighties fantasy film, but Time Bandits is
made and produced by Takeaway Tit and Jermaine Clement. So yeah,
it sounds really really interesting and that the little bits
I've seen look great. So we're going to tell you
about that after ten o'clock this morning. Right now, it
is twelve minutes to ten, and Rosa Flanagan, who is

(31:46):
of course one half of two Raw Sisters, is with
us this morning. Hey Rosa, good morning, Jick.

Speaker 12 (31:51):
How are you.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
I'm very well. Thanks. Are you into the Olympics.

Speaker 12 (31:55):
Yes, I'm so excited for the Olympics. So I was
up this morning watching the ceremony.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Oh good job. What do you What was your take
on the opening ceremony, because I think it's dividing opinion
to be fair, Some people think was the best ever.
Some people think it was the most French ever.

Speaker 12 (32:10):
To be honest, I'm more of a fan of the
opening ceremony in the stadium. I think a lot is
a lot stronger.

Speaker 3 (32:19):
Yea.

Speaker 12 (32:20):
The weather was a bit of a down buzz as well.

Speaker 2 (32:22):
Yeah, it was a bit of an issue. Yeah, it
was kind of spread out. That was interesting. So maybe
maybe this way more people can see it because it's
kind of public it was on the scene and that
was on the Champs. But then, yeah, that's a that's
a very good point. Anyway, we're keeping things down very
French throughout this morning, and I feel like today's recipe
is very French. Indeed, you've got a little mushroom savory
pancake recipe.

Speaker 12 (32:42):
Yeah, this is on our Two Sisters app and it's
been actually one of the most popular recipes over the
last couple of months, which has been quite interesting. It's
a very it's a great recipe for an easy weeknight meal,
and I think it's great as well because it is
quite comforting too, and using those Keith Pantry staple ingredients.
So the recipe we've got today's so but you can

(33:04):
easily double triple it. So it's got chickpea flours, it's based,
so chickpea flour is great because it's gluten free pine protein,
so we're using that. So we've got about three quarters
of a cup of chickpea flour and three quarters of
a cup of water, and then we've got some plant
based or dairy yogurt in there, so you can use
coconut yogurt, Greek yogurt, but obviously wanting to stick with

(33:27):
the plain yogat. I'm not sure about having strawberry yogat
or fairy yogurt in most davory pancakes. And then we've
got some salt, and then we've got some nutritional yeast,
or you can use freshly grated parmesans. We've got three
tablespoons of that in there, baking powda. We've got half
a tea spoon, and then some chopped up coriander, or

(33:49):
you can use any herb that you want. So that's
kind of a batter mix, right that we mix up
in a bowl, and it's quite a quite a thick consistency,
I suppose, and then put that aside once you've mixed
it all up, And then in the pan, add some
cooking oil in there, and you've got an onion that
stice a brown onion. If you don't have a brown

(34:09):
onion at home, you can use a red onion if
you want to. And then we've got a leak. So
leak's in season at the moment, really cost effective, cheap
and so delicious. And I think you know, the classic
cheese and white sauce is something you know everyone kind
of maybe tends to lean towards. But it's amazing how

(34:31):
you can actually utilize it in lots of different ways.
So we've got some leak thinly sliced into just rounds,
a little bit of garlic. We've got a couple of
clothes there, so just crushed and chopped, a bit more
sea salt, and then we're using some spices. We've got
a teaspoon of ground human and a teaspoon of ground tumoric,
just to give a little bit of extra flavor in there.

(34:52):
And then we've got our mushrooms. For just three white
buttoned mushrooms, or if you've only got Portabellot mushrooms at home,
you can definitely use those, or oyster mushrooms if you're
feeling a little bit fancy. Cut them up into small
pieces and we just sort e those just to often
them up a little bit, create some flavor with the
gar like the human and the tumors, and then we
pour that mixture into the pancake batter right, mix it up,

(35:16):
and then using that same same pan, add a little
bit more oil, and then you can pour half the
batter and create your first pancake, and then repeat that
with the second one and obviously, it depends. If you've
doubled the recipe, you'll be making four, or if you've
tripled it you'll be making six.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
So easy as well, Yeah.

Speaker 12 (35:36):
So easy and a really great weekday lunch as well
as a dinner. And I love it that you can
just top it with whatever you want. So it's a
great way to use up those, you know, little things
in the fridge or the pantry that are nearly done
but no one's finishing them off, like yeah, some hummus.
Or if you've got left over roast begs and the fridge,

(35:58):
you can chuck them on top. If you've got some eggs,
you could fry an egg or boil some eggs and
put them on top. Avocado, smoked salmon, fresh green.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Yeah, yeah, sounds great.

Speaker 12 (36:10):
Gold with what you want to top top them with.

Speaker 2 (36:12):
Oh and that is the phrase of the day as well.
Thank you very much, Rosa. Yeah that sounds awesome. Okay,
we'll put roses recipe for leac and mushroom savory pancakes
up on the news Talk d website. And of course
you can find who are in her system by following
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Speaker 1 (36:29):
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Speaker 2 (36:38):
We've had a lot of entries, a lot of people
feeling like they've that they want to add to Kevin's
list of the best New Zealand ads. Ever, Kevin reckons
the best ads were made a wee while backing up,
I don't think anyone's really disputing that. I don't think
there's any ad in the last five years at the
very least that would necessarily make the list, is.

Speaker 4 (36:55):
There, Jack?

Speaker 2 (36:57):
The Specsavers ads always crack me up, says Keith. Yeah, okay, yeah,
they should have gone to Spekesavers. I mean that as
a clever campaign, isn't it. Keith Mark reckons the Big
ben Pies ads are pretty good now. The couple of
votes for Minty's. My only problem with Minty's is that
it's like, is there any one Minty's ad that was
the standout or is it more like the concept, you know,

(37:18):
the campaign that was worthy of making the list in
your opinion? Anyway, give us your thoughts. Ninety two ninety
two is our text number. Jack at news Talk, saidb
dot co dot Nz. Jack love your opening comments this morning.
Got up early to watch the Olympic opening ceremony, says Adam.
I've got to say, Simone Biles is something else like you.

(37:39):
Every time she performs, I feel like it's superhuman. I
look at her and think, oh, my goodness, how can
the human body do that? This is my thing with
mobile someone was like and it's one of those things
that you don't need to so whereas you need to
see runners in person to really appreciate how fast they're moving,
same with high jump, maybe in long jump. I feel
like seeing gymnastics is one of those things where watching

(38:02):
it on TV you can appreciate just how difficult it
was immediately, or at least you can get close right,
you can appreciate how impossible it would be for you
to do that. Anyway, After ten o'clock this morning, given
it as the start of the twenty twenty four Summer
Olympic Games, we're going to tell you about this amazing
documentary on Simone bars looking back at her experience at
the previous Olympics and her kind of redemption arc, the

(38:26):
thing that she's been through in the years since she
thought that might be her. She thought she might not
compete in another Olympic Games. But here she is lining
up to compete in Paris. So we will tell you
about that as well as that, of course our feature
interview right after the ten o'clock news. Irish comedian Ed
Berner is with us News is next on news dog.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
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Speaker 2 (39:16):
In a good morning you were Jack tame through the
midday on news Talks, he'd b and one of New
Zealand's favorite irishman's Ed Burne, is back in the country.
Ed is known for his Wow intellectual comedy I think
we can call it intellectual, and his TV appearances on
shows like QI. He even won the celebrity version of

(39:37):
the Chase. He's back on our shores with his Tragedy
plus Time tour and he's with us Scaled a good morning,
good morning to you. It is great to be chatting
to you. And I wanted to double check effect because
I read that you perform in New Zealand even more
than you perform in Ireland. Is that right?

Speaker 13 (39:55):
Oh yeah, that's that's a fair comment. I would say, yeah,
and I will I will sell more tickets in New
Zealand than I will in Ireland. New Zealand and being
a country with a population roughly the same and why
is that spread across a much larger area, so so more.

Speaker 14 (40:10):
Traveling has to be done. But I don't know why
that is.

Speaker 13 (40:14):
I feel like when I do go to New Zealand,
people go, well, he's here, we know how far he's come,
so you know, well, while he's here, let's go and
see him. Well, I feel like when I go to
Ireland they kind of go like, oh, well he's Irish,
so you know, i'll bother him today. I'll see him,
you know in a couple of weeks if when he's

(40:36):
you know, when he's on again.

Speaker 8 (40:37):
No, this is it.

Speaker 14 (40:40):
Don't all think people really potting onto that.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Maybe they just think they're going to be like they're
more likely to bump into you in a supermarket or
something like that. You know that there's going to be
something that's you know, it's a bit more commonplace to
see you behead.

Speaker 14 (40:54):
Yes, I think that's it. I think it's the it's definitely.

Speaker 13 (40:56):
The commonplace aspect is what makes people just not nearly
as excited about my arrival there. I'm not saying that
the entire country of New Zealand goes into apple of
ecstasy every time I step off the plane, but I
think people tend to be slightly more excited and appreciative
of the journey I've made than when I fly to
Ireland for gigs.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Well, I think it's I think it's something akin to that.
And you know, speaking on behalf of New Zealander is
perhaps the only thing that gets the more excited than
anned burned too is the chase. I'm not sure if
you are aware of this, but I mean as popular
as the chases in the UK and perhaps in Ireland.

(41:37):
The chase is like a social phenomenon in New Zealand.
So it plays right before the biggest evening news in
New Zealand, and so everyone who's tuning in for the
evening news, the last couple of minutes before the news
starts is the final Chase, right, and so there's this
huge kind of social phenomenon. And of course we've seen

(41:58):
you win the chase, so yeah, so just tell us
about that experience, because as like I say, as excited
as everyone is to see you show more than a
few questions about the chase.

Speaker 13 (42:09):
You want to know about that? Well, it was actually
my second time appearing on the chase.

Speaker 14 (42:13):
First time I.

Speaker 13 (42:13):
Did it as a as a you know these was
it was me. It was me and Eric Bristow ended
up being the two that went through. I can't even
remember who else is on that episode was. I feel
bad because it was two other celebrities, and one of
them was Nadine Dorries, who was it was an MP

(42:35):
to be the culture secretary despite not understanding anything about culture.

Speaker 14 (42:40):
Or you know. Yeah, and she, yeah, she went to
take I remember she went to take the lower offer.

Speaker 13 (42:47):
The audience booed her, so she took the middle offer,
showing you know, how easily swayed she was by public opinion.

Speaker 14 (42:58):
And then having taken the middle offer, you know, was thick.
So she got up, I'm no, I'm not a fan
of this.

Speaker 2 (43:08):
I'm taking I'm picking that on you. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (43:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (43:12):
And then so then it was me and Eric Bristow,
who's no longer with us, but who was it was
a darts player and I got to admit, was not
you know, the greatest teammate for the final chase. At
one point he buzzed in on a golf question and
then stood there and I literally stand the next to
going past dude pass. So that even though the money

(43:34):
I took back to the table was at the time
it was actually a record amount. It was something like
one hundred and sixty thousand or something like that, but
we didn't win it, so it means nothing. Yeah, and
then the second time I did, it was four of us.
We all made it through. It was a guy called
doctor Ranch saying it was like this TV doctor who
was the Reverend Kate Botley, who was you know, she

(43:55):
does like a she's a reverend, but who does TV
presenting and a lot of you know, faith based stuff.
And a reality TV star called Toff who came from
a TV show called Made in Chelsea and me and
between us, yes, we managed it. Ron Pome with the
with the Lions show.

Speaker 14 (44:12):
So yeah, the light of it. But they do I
mean I can I can talk about this all night. Yeah,
you feel like I'm not letting you in. They do,
they don't, they don't cheat.

Speaker 13 (44:20):
They're not allowed to cheat with with with TV talent,
with TV quiz shows, they still have to be above board.

Speaker 14 (44:27):
What they will do is they will tailor.

Speaker 13 (44:30):
Questions knowing what the interests are of the people who
are you know, who who the celebrities are, and so
you're aware that they're.

Speaker 14 (44:39):
Doing it like that.

Speaker 13 (44:40):
At one point, the chaser got a question about and
the answer was Pearl Jam. What Seattle grunge band had
an album called I think it was Vitalogy and.

Speaker 14 (44:52):
He and of course he knew he was.

Speaker 13 (44:53):
He was Sean Wall who went he went Nirvana.

Speaker 3 (44:59):
But you know, if.

Speaker 13 (45:00):
You're even the most cursory bit of research about your
contestants would reveal that I am a massive Pearl Jam,
you know, like I have worn worn T shirts in.

Speaker 14 (45:09):
My specials and stuff like that. So so they do.

Speaker 13 (45:13):
It's not as great an achievement as as as you
might think, because they do just slightly just stack the
questions in the favor.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
I think it's still I think it's still an almighty achievement. Yeah,
for what it's worth, you know, it's a stressle environment.
And then and to triumph on the chases certainly an
impressive feat. So so talk to us a little bit
about tragedy plus time, because the concept behind your show
is pretty unique.

Speaker 13 (45:44):
Well, it's it's certainly a departure for me the show
that the term tragedy plus time is. But it's attributed
to Mark Twain, but it's actually there's no actual evidence
he ever said it. But it's a definition of comedy. Basically,
it's the idea that comedy equals or humor equals tragedy
plus time, the idea that's it's not funny at the
time can become funny later once enough time has lapse.

Speaker 14 (46:06):
And so I sort of.

Speaker 13 (46:08):
I I try and examine that through the frame of
two different tragedies, one very minor that happened to me
where I had my car broken into and was joking
about it the following night, and then a much bigger tragedy,
which was the death of my little brother, which was
obviously far more difficult to try and be funny about.

Speaker 3 (46:31):
But you know, but here we.

Speaker 13 (46:33):
Are, and I talk about the sort of funny things
that were said and that happened surrounding the death, and
the funny things he was coming out with even when
he knew he was sick and stuff like that. So
it sounds like a downer subject, it has to be said,
But the overall show is I hope it's fairly uplifting

(46:54):
and certainly it's it is full of jokes.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
Yeah, I mean it's quite it's quite a it's quite
a it seems like quite a brave thing to do.

Speaker 14 (47:03):
Well, it's not.

Speaker 13 (47:05):
It's not entirely undbreaking. I mean shows mixing tragedy with
comedy is something that people has worked very well for
a lot of people that even look at you know,
most sitcoms now or even your average rom com, there's
always gonna be that moment that hits you in the
fields that even you know, God what Mash, Scrubs, Friends,

(47:27):
Ted Lasso, all these ones, you know, you were, it
kind of goes side side by side. You enjoy it
more for the for the for the dark that goes
with the light, you know. So it's it's certainly a
new thing for me. And it's it's maybe it's a
it's a path less traveled in stand up compared to
you know, scripted comedy whatever, you know, sitcom and movies

(47:50):
and that, but.

Speaker 14 (47:51):
It's it's it's it's it's not unheard of put it
that way.

Speaker 3 (47:55):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (47:55):
But it's performing the show, and you know, having performed
it a few times now. Is it has it been
good for you? Has it been cathartic in a way,
or is it has it you know, are there some
kind of downside that you prep hidden anticipated.

Speaker 13 (48:08):
We've reached that point of the interview where I get
to tick off the partic on my cars.

Speaker 14 (48:14):
No, it's not your fault. It is the question people
ask it is. Yes it is. I actually would like
to say yes. I find it very helpful and very useful.

Speaker 13 (48:23):
I genuinely there's aspects of them that I find very rewarding.
I love the fact that people are coming to the
show and they didn't know who my little brother was,
and they go away from Joe knowing who he was.
And I like the aspect of keeping his memory alive.
And I like that, you know, getting some stuff off
mea jail. I don't think overall it's very healthy what

(48:45):
I'm doing. I think breaking over the cold of a
tragic event five six nights a week is probably not
the best.

Speaker 14 (48:59):
Thing I could ever do for my mental health.

Speaker 13 (49:03):
I do also, you know, think in terms of of
you know, he died owing me money, and this is
my way of climbing some of it back.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
You gonna do you walk when you're in New Zealand?
Is that something that you try and do? I tried.

Speaker 13 (49:18):
I do absolutely, and I have done the last few
times i've been out there, when I was out there. Okay,
so here's the thing. When I used to travel with
my wife or girlfriend as she was before she became
my wife. Yeah, we actually I proposed her in New
Zealand before we had kids. We would travel together quite
a lot, and so I was able to like sort

(49:40):
of space to tour out a bit better so that
we could then get some hikes in and stuff like that,
and we could always turn everything into a working holiday.

Speaker 14 (49:48):
But now because I've got.

Speaker 13 (49:49):
To go on my own, I kind of feel bad
if I even take a day, Yeah.

Speaker 14 (49:53):
For myself.

Speaker 13 (49:54):
He said, Hey, that I could have, you know, just
done a gig and and and because I need to
get back to it, I'm going for a month and
I will be doing as much work because I can't.
But yes, I will definitely least get I reckon two
hikes in probably one on the North Island and one
on the South.

Speaker 14 (50:13):
I think that's a beam. That's that's a good aim.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Yeah, that's pretty that's pretty impressive that that you know,
you're kind of able to prioritize that when you're when
you're traveling, you know, it's it's quite yeah.

Speaker 13 (50:26):
To do that, it would just be, I don't know,
just be a shame. I'd like to go to New
Zealand and not go for a tramp. Yeah, I don't know,
like go to New Orleans and not visiting the jazz barge.

Speaker 14 (50:37):
You know what I mean. It's the hiking or tramping,
as you say, is so good there.

Speaker 13 (50:41):
To go all that way and not get you know,
some some miles, some tracks under your under your boots, yeah,
would be would be a shame. The only guess that
when I bring the boots with me, I have to
I have that moment.

Speaker 14 (50:54):
Of customs where they got to take them away and
radiate them and make sure there's no British soil on them.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Does anyone else say tramp.

Speaker 14 (51:05):
Lest I bring up plague of locust?

Speaker 2 (51:07):
No, it's a weird. It's a weird term anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 13 (51:13):
Very odd term to my ears, to my years. It
sounds like going out and hunting homeless people.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Hopefully you're not going to be doing any of that
while you're here, but look, we're delighted to have you
back in the country, beautiful jeers. Yeah, it's so good
to have you here. Thank you very much for your time.
Ed Byrne. He is playing Hastings tonight. He's also visiting Palmerston, North,
christ Church, Queenstown, Dunedin, Infracargo, Hamilton, Todunger, Tom McKee, Makoto

(51:40):
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(52:03):
Before eleven o'clock on News Talks, he'd be and we're
gonna keetch up with our texpert see if there is
any ongoing fallout from that crazy tech outage, the biggest
tech outage in history from last week. Next up, though,
If you look for something good to watch or stream,
while you're waiting for the serious gold medal competitions to begin.
Three shows to recommend in our screen time segment, including

(52:27):
an amazing documentary about Simone Biles. It's twenty one past ten.
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Speaker 2 (52:42):
We any three minutes past ten on Newstalks EDB. Well,
the games are officially underwail though it's that weird thing
of course, where we've had competition already beginning for some sports,
so the rugby sevens or the football, those competitions have
already begun. But the games are officially underway in Paris.
And here's what you need to know if you're hoping
to see some kiwis in action. Basically, we don't have

(53:02):
to do anything during the day today seven o'clock tonight
though you have the heats for or the men's single
skulls and the rowing, so Tom Macintosh is competing in that.
At the same time, the eventing team has Day one dressage,
so that's Janelle Price, Tim Price Clark Johnston just after
eight o'clock, about ten past eight, you have the rowing
single skulls women's heat, so Emma twigs up in that

(53:23):
and that at nine pm this evening the women's four
hundred meter freestyle heats. That's the one with Eric afair
Weather and Eve Thomas. Eric afeir Weather is considered a
pretty good metal prospect, pretty good shout although it is
an incredible field in the women's four hundred meter freestyle.
So if she and Eve are able to get through
the freestyle heats this evening, they go to the final

(53:46):
tomorrow morning, provided they qualify, which is just before seven
o'clock in the morning New Zealand time, so you might
have to watch them tonight and then you know, go
to bed and set your alarm nice and early so
you can get up and see them tomorrow morning. However,
if it wasn't enough to keep you entertained this weekend,
good news Tara awards our screen time and she's got

(54:07):
three TV shows to recommend to us this morning. Hey Tara,
good morning. Let's start off with the show that's streaming
on Apple TV plus The Tiger Way Tit. Jermaine Clement
reboots Tell us about Time Bandits.

Speaker 16 (54:20):
Yeah, so this is a reboot of the fantasy film
Time Bandits that came out in nineteen eighty one, and
it's been a remade, as you say, by Taigawa, Tt,
Jermaine Clement and Ian Morris from The In Between Us.
So there's a lot of anticipation and expectations around this series,
and a lot of it was filmed in New Zealand
as well, so lots to like already. But it's about
an eleven year old boy named Kevin who is a

(54:41):
real history fanatic and he discovers one night that his
bedroom is a time portal and he goes off in
this adventure with a motley group of time traveling thieves
who are zooming through history stealing different things from different
time periods, and are led by Penelope, who's played by
the wonderful Lisa Kudro and Jamaine Clemot plays the villain
called Pure Evil, who's trying to steal an important map

(55:03):
from the group of thieves. Now, I hadn't seen the
original nineteen eighty one film, so I came to this
with no preconceived ideas, no loyalty to the original, and
I thought it was a lot of fun. It's definitely
aimed at kids, but it's a very family friendly watch.
I watched this with my eleven year old and she
loved it. We both chuckled our way through it. It's funny,
it's fast, the humor feels very Monty Python esque.

Speaker 10 (55:25):
You know.

Speaker 16 (55:25):
It's silly but in a good way and a real adventure.
I think kids will love it. It's very clever and
it's got this wonderfully chaotic feel to it.

Speaker 2 (55:33):
Oh nice, cool, that's time band. It's on Apple TV Plus,
streaming on Netflix. The de Cameron.

Speaker 16 (55:39):
Yeah, another historical comedy. This one is definitely for adults.
It's a dark comedy set in fourteenth century Italy during
the Black Plague, not traditionally known as a particularly funny
time in history, but this is about a group of
aristocrats and servants who, when everyone else is dying in
the streets, they escaped to a villa in the Italian countryside,
where they intend to use all their privileged wealth and

(56:03):
wait out the plague. And it's a bit like if
White Lotus was sillier and set in the thirteen hundreds.
It's poking fun at the rich. It's about the upstairs
downstairs world between the servants and their masters and what
happens in a crisis when all those rules go out
the window. And also maybe a little bit of like
fourteenth century Love Island as well. They're in this sort

(56:24):
of protected bubble they wanted to couple off and find
a match. There is a lot going on here. It's
actually based on a collection of short stories that were
published in the fourteenth century and considered very risque at
the time. And I think with the success of shows
like Bridgeton, we're getting a lot of these historical dramas
and comedies with a modern twist or a modern soundtrack,
and this is one of those kinds of shows. So

(56:45):
if you want something light and fascical and completely ridiculous,
this will do the trick.

Speaker 4 (56:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Nice, cool, That's the de Cameron. So that's on Netflix.
Also on Netflix. My wife and I streamed this the
other night. Very exciting. Simone Biles Rising.

Speaker 16 (57:00):
Yeah, this is a new documentary series about Simone Biles, who,
of course, as the extraordinary American gymnasts, shares the greatest
of all times. She's doing moves that no one else can.
She is incredible, And this documentary series starts after the
twenty twenty Olympics, which Biles withdrew from during the competition
because her mental health was suffering. She was experiencing the twisties,

(57:21):
which is when the gymnask gets lost in the air,
and obviously, excuse me, that's quite dangerous, and she copped
a lot of criticism for putting her mental health first.
And the documentary follows her as she tries to rebuild
her career, to get that confidence back and to get
to the Paris Olympics, and captures her life and her
world in a really down to earth, understated way. It's

(57:43):
a fascinating insight into her talent and the pressure that
she faces. And every time the Olympics comes around, you
watch a few different sports and you think, oh, mate,
I could do that. Maybe it's not too late for men.
This reminds you that, no, you will never ever be
anywhere as talented as Simone Biles. Just the dedication and
the sacrifice that she has been through. What an incredible

(58:04):
athlete and an amazing human being. This is just such
an aspirer watch.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Yeah, it really is, so. I like I say, mar
and I watched this the other night, and I have
long been a Simone Biles fan. I know that I'm
hardly unique on that front, but I was very much
team Simone when in the last game she was like, actually,
I'm just not in the right place to be doing this,
because if you are running at full speed and throwing
yourself backwards into the vault and then doing two like

(58:28):
full flips in a pike position, I just can't imagine
going into that not having like, there's no way if
you're anything less than one hundred percent confident in your
own abilities, that you're going to land at right. Like,
it just seems so dangerous and it was kind of
a well, I thought it was quite a brave and
mature decision. All of that being said, it made me
yearn for the redemption story, so like, I just wanted

(58:52):
to win so much because you know, it would just
it would kind of cap off this incredible sporting athletic
fairy tale, which I think she deserves, and I think
anyone who watches Simone Biles Rising will agree. Thanks so much, Tark,
you take care and we will catch you. Ceron Tar
Award is our screen Time Expert Those shows Again, Time
Bandits is on Apple TV. Plus The Decameron is on

(59:14):
Netflix and a Simone Biles Rising is also on Netflix.
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Speaker 1 (59:27):
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so looking forward to having a bit of a listen
to that after eleven o'clock. Speaking of summary vibes, I
have been extremely fortunate this week to take a few

(01:00:58):
days off in slightly warmer climbs Marva and I, my
wife and I went up to Rara Tong. It was
the first time I've ever been to Rara Tonga for
a few days and just had such an amazing time.
What an incredible place that is. Things that surprised me.
First of all, I don't know why I'm always surprised
by this, but Pacific Islands are so green and lush.

(01:01:19):
Every time I got to Pacific Islands, I'm always like,
oh my god, everything grows here. It's so so lush.
Second of all, I hadn't appreciated just how good the
snorkeling would be. We went and did one of the
turtle tours, and basically you go out into a little
break in the reef and we went out there saw

(01:01:41):
a couple of dozen turtles as well as huge schools
of eagle rays and lionfish just you know, amazing, amazing
underwater life. But anyway, I've put up a few photos
on Facebook. You can goind of look at Jacktame dot
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photos on the Gram as well. I've got to feed

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the gram. But yeah, I had a wonderful time in
Rara Tong, so absolutely cannot wait to return. And a
couple of minutes our texpert with the very latest on
that crowd strike outage and what it's going to mean
for the future of cyber security. Right now twenty five
to eleven, you're with Jack Tame on News doalg zedb putting.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
The tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking breakfast.

Speaker 18 (01:02:22):
The government's moving on interventionist courts over customary rights to coastlines,
basically taking it back to what it was before the
courts got involved in the first place, just as Minister
Paul Goldsmith.

Speaker 9 (01:02:30):
Is with us, well, it's very much about the rightem
to do.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
What we're doing is reasserting that all New Zealanders have an.

Speaker 19 (01:02:35):
Interest in what happens in the postal and marine areas.

Speaker 20 (01:02:37):
But we also recognized customary marine title through the legislation.

Speaker 9 (01:02:42):
The Parliament always set a very high.

Speaker 15 (01:02:43):
Bar for that.

Speaker 20 (01:02:44):
It does give valuable rights, and so we set a
high threshold in the legislation. The courts materially reduced that threshold,
and that's why we're making the unusual step of overriding
the courts and restating what we thought was quite clear.

Speaker 18 (01:02:56):
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Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Two to eleven Non News Talks ZEDB. A week on
from the crowd Strike tech outage, and still not all
systems are back online. Our Textbert Paul Steamhouse is here
with the details. Paul, now that we've had a little
bit of water under the bridge, talk to us about
the fallout.

Speaker 10 (01:03:18):
I told you it was going to be there. I
told you that this was basically like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
A coming if you were one hundred percent right on
that front.

Speaker 8 (01:03:26):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:03:27):
And so the crowd Streak CEO said in the post
yesterday that over ninety seven percent of systems are back online,
but Microsoft estimates that eight point five million PCs have
been disabled. So if you do some quick math, that
means there's still quarter of a million devices remaining offline,
which is that's a phenomenal amount again for the people

(01:03:49):
who were actually trying to be good corporate citizens and
actually try to protect their systems.

Speaker 10 (01:03:55):
Yeah, you know, they kind of got a little screwed.
In the US though, Delta Airlines was probably one of
the most high profile.

Speaker 21 (01:04:03):
Victims of the of the out and they still have
lingering issues and their CEO has had to come out
and apologize. There are continued flight disruptions and it seems
that those issues are related to some of the systems
for crewing planes with pilots and flight attendants. Apparently people
are sitting at the gate and they are just like

(01:04:25):
trying to flag down this was earlier in the week,
trying to flag down just any pilot or flight attendant
to like maybe fly their plane for them because Delta
doesn't seem to know or didn't seem to know where
any of their pilots or flight attendants were not good.
And the stock price of CrowdStrike it kind of may
try to make a recovery on Tuesday, but it's down

(01:04:46):
ten percent since last week, about ten percent, and it's
kind of taken them back to where they were at
the end of twenty twenty three so effectively wiped out
the twenty twenty four games.

Speaker 2 (01:04:54):
I'm surprised.

Speaker 21 (01:04:54):
I'm not completely They're not like completely in the in
the scene, but can you know, guess reports today have
another blue screen of death issue. You know, we're like
your eyes this time not related to crowd strike, but
Microsoft the BitLocker, which is their encryption service, that's having
some issues and they're having to roll out of shoes.

Speaker 10 (01:05:15):
So there'll be some system admins around here.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
And it's like, oh my gosh, seems like it's happy apes. Yeah,
and just again the irony of all these companies that
we're trying to do the right thing to protect themselves
from cybersecurity threats instead got taken down. Hey, WhatsApp now
has one hundred million monthly users in the US. That's
a huge sign of growth.

Speaker 21 (01:05:38):
It is it is because this is America is just
not a WhatsApp kind of land.

Speaker 10 (01:05:44):
Is really funny. I've got friends in the UK or
friends in New Zealand. New Zealand seems to love Facebook
Messenger I found in my circles.

Speaker 21 (01:05:51):
And then the UK they're just obsessed with WhatsApp and
America all about Apple, all about iMessage, and so this
is big. They have made us spent sixteen billion dollars
and twenty fourteen to buy WhatsApp, and they've really struggled
to get growth. So the one hundred million marks really
not surprisingly. They're seeing their biggest growth in places.

Speaker 10 (01:06:09):
That are kind of immigrant friendly.

Speaker 21 (01:06:11):
I guess Los Angeles, New York, Miami, Seattle, but it's
just kind of it's just not a thinking and so
they really trying to make.

Speaker 3 (01:06:19):
It a thing.

Speaker 21 (01:06:20):
I know, one hundred million people, but that's like one
in three.

Speaker 10 (01:06:23):
It's still not really and that's monthly users.

Speaker 21 (01:06:26):
Yeah, so for someone like me who's forced who's WhatsApp
when it gets when one of my friends in the
UK wants to message me, I'm one of those monthly users.

Speaker 10 (01:06:35):
I'm not a daily user.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
Yeah. Yet it'll change, Paul, You're just going to get
the family chat like this is the thing. The problem is, though,
we're problems. Well, the problem is too many people you
do the chat now, ye see, we've got the My
wife is doing whatever she can to avoid getting sucked
into the family chat this stage. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
To be asked, I don't entirely blame it.

Speaker 21 (01:06:56):
We've multiple We've got multiple versions of family chats with
significant others, some without.

Speaker 2 (01:07:02):
It can be dangerous. It can be dangerous and punishing,
Thank you very much. You know when you come back
to your phone and you've suddenly got seventy six notifications
and you're like, oh, what's happened here? What's happened? Okay?
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Quarter to eleven on Newstalks dB. If you were to
list all of the common things that gps and doctors
are presented with, colds would be near the top of
the list. But also, and this surprise me, cold saws
and doctor doctor Brian Betty is here with us this morning.

Speaker 3 (01:07:43):
What in it?

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Brian?

Speaker 2 (01:07:45):
Jack N Yeah, I was, I was a little bit
surprised by this. But but take us back to first principles.
What are cold saws?

Speaker 19 (01:07:52):
Yeah, look incredibly common. They can be very mild or
quite severe. And the small fluid filled blisters that are
tear on the skin, and they often appear in little patches.
Now commonly what people see is am on the lips,
in the cheeks, and sometimes in the nostrils, and more
severe cases, they can actually happen on the roof of
the mouth or the gums, and they tend to be

(01:08:14):
particularly painful. So what patients will notice is it starts
with a sort of tingling, riching over that particular area
of the skin, and over forty eight hours, these little
clusters of blisters actually developed. Then given about a week later,
a few days later, they actually burst and they start
to crust over and dry out, sort of like if
you've got kids have had chicken pox, a similar sort

(01:08:35):
of thing tends to happen. They just dry out, take
about two to three weeks to heal up completely, and
sometimes we do see things like a slight temperature, a
slight sore throat, and the headache associated with them. But
incredibly incredibly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
Common, and they're caused by a virus.

Speaker 19 (01:08:50):
That yeah, so they're caused by something called the Herpee
simplex type one virus. Now Herpe simplex type two is
a thing that causes chenital herpes. It's actually a virus
it's related, but it's a separate virus, and it causes
these things called cols laws cold saws. Now, they are
spread through close contact, so if you've got a cold saw,

(01:09:12):
things like kissine, sharing utensils or sharing tails will actually
spread the virus, so you need to be particularly careful
of that. And they are more likely to spread when
the lists burst because there's a bit of fluid there
which is very easy to transmit. Now, the other really
interesting thing about them is the virus once you've got it,
the virus, once it goes away, it hides in the

(01:09:33):
nerve cells of the face. Okay, so the virus never
ever goes away, It just sits there it and it
can actually be triggered by things like stress, fatigue, trauma, fever,
sun wind. So some people get these recurrent episodes of
it triggered by what we call these trigger factors, and
the virus pops out again and you get another cold sauce.
So you never actually get rid of the viruses. It's

(01:09:55):
quite interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
How do you treat them?

Speaker 19 (01:09:58):
Look, they get better over two to three weeks, so
regardless of what you do, they clear up and get better.
So that's the first thing to say about them. But
often we advise things like, you know, if you're going outside,
wear some sunblock or lip balm because that just helps
protect the area that's affected. Paracetamol or broof and can
help with the pain. Look, avoid salty foods around them.

(01:10:19):
Anyone who's eating sort of salty chips with sore throat
will know what I'm talking about. That can cause a
lot of pain. Things like ice and warm flannels can help.
And actually you can go to the chemists, go to
see a chemist and there is anti viral cream. You
can get something called a cycle of her or fam
cyclavia cream and that can speed up the healing of them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
And is there anything else we should be thinking about
if we experience culturals obviously trying not to you know,
share drinks and that kind of thing.

Speaker 19 (01:10:47):
Yeah, so that's really important. You don't want to spread them,
so kissing, you know, as we said, towels and things
don't do that. Look, they do recur, as I said,
with these trigger factors. So if you know that the
wind or the sun suddenly triggers them or something triggers them,
try and avoid that if you can. There's actually a
natural remedy kanooka honey based cream showing to be quite

(01:11:07):
quite beneficial with them. So there is a proven natural
remedy around which is quite quite interesting. But I would say,
look at particularly large they don't clear up over about
two weeks, or they're near the eye in particular the
eyes we get worried about. Please please go and see
your doctor or GP and get them checked out.

Speaker 4 (01:11:26):
Please.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Okay, Oh that's really that's really good advice. Thank you.
Hey are you into the Olympics, Bryan?

Speaker 22 (01:11:32):
Is that?

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
Are you in a.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Well?

Speaker 19 (01:11:34):
I will be watching them, yeah, but I didn't manage
to watch the ceremony this morning.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It was only five hours long. Don't worry about that.
It's pretty good. They had, you know, they had Celindi
on and Lady Gaga rough arma, duh and yeah Serena Willims,
Yeah it was. It was spectacular. But is there an
event that stands out to you that you're that you're
sort of most keen for or oh.

Speaker 19 (01:11:58):
Look, look, I think the canoeing actually interesting. You know,
the kayaking. It's kayaking, isn't it, you know Poles Carrington
that I think that's going to be really really interesting
this year in terms of what.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Happened such competition in New Zealand. Right, yeah, good reason
to think that we could be one too in the
in the women's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
Well, well that's exactly right.

Speaker 19 (01:12:17):
So I think that's why it's well well worth watching.
But I'll be interested in Dylan Schmid as well. The
trump the leader. Oh yeah, think that'll be really interesting
as well. So I've been watching him closely. So look,
I think exciting two weeks. So it always do is
once it starts.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
Yeah, I know, once it kicks off and you know
it's past the opening ceremon he gets into competition in
earnest in the middles of exciting. Yeah, hey, thank you
so much. You take care and we will catch you.
So in Doctor Brian Beatty teen to eleven non news Dogs,
he'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:48):
Rude climb passes our man in the garden.

Speaker 8 (01:12:50):
Killer a rude yeah in the garden. All right.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
I got back, got back last night from a from
a few days away, which is very very lovely and luxurious,
and of course the first thing I did is ran
inside put the jug on. My wife said, what are
you doing? You're making a cup of coffee, I said.
She said, oh, for goodness sake, she said, are you
feeding the birds? And I was like, yeah, well they've
gone four days.

Speaker 4 (01:13:12):
I haven't.

Speaker 2 (01:13:12):
I haven't been able to fill up their feet. It's
for four whole days. And you'll be pleased to know
that first thing this morning, once I put out some
new food for them, went out there, first thing this morning,
all the tohoe were back, all the silver eyes were back.

Speaker 6 (01:13:25):
That's right, that's exactly that's exactly how it works. I
love I love the fact that you do that, because
I think that gives you. It gives you, for me,
the fact that you've got a really nice heart.

Speaker 14 (01:13:38):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:13:39):
Well, even if the toho don't, because I'm not sure
it's the most nutritious necessarily, but oh no.

Speaker 6 (01:13:44):
It's it's good that they will know what it's good
for them to be quite honest, because you know, I
used the mad butcher balls of or you know, and
pressed together and frozen and then they thaw it slowly.
So basically, when you when you told me that story
last time, that you were worried about them, I thought,
I'm going to try and try and do some trials

(01:14:05):
to see what happened, and that trial actually started already
eighteen years ago. When I lived in Auckland.

Speaker 10 (01:14:12):
I was.

Speaker 6 (01:14:14):
On my seat in the office and outside my office
window was a wonderful plant, a citrus plant. It was
actually a lemon, and suddenly a whole lot of these
toho came on the lemon and they mucked around. I
took photos of it, and it was actually one but
they were only a meter away from me on the
other side of the glass. And the cool thing was

(01:14:36):
that later on in spring they were back again, and
I was just wondering, what the hell is going on.
So I went outside and found they had been eating
scale insects on the particular lemon tree, and so I
took photos off the scale in sects. They came back.
Ten minutes later they were gone again, and I took
the same photo of the same twig and noticed that

(01:15:01):
half of the scale in sects had gone in ten minutes.

Speaker 23 (01:15:05):
Wow.

Speaker 6 (01:15:06):
Now, if you're a gardener, you know the scale sects
are real pinned above and tahoe basically my biological control.

Speaker 15 (01:15:15):
So that was that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:16):
Now, later in life, I actually got involved in bending.
As you know, I do a lot of bird bending,
including Tahoe. I did about forty three yesterday and about
sixty the day before, so it's been pretty busy here.
But here comes the thing when I look at the
balls of meat in the garden and I see how

(01:15:37):
many birds have got rings on them, and I came
to the conclusion that it wasn't actually that many, and
so I've written it all down so it will be
all on the website that Libby will check on. The
interesting thing is that I came to the conclusion in
the end that in my garden on efforts, there were
almost a thousand taoho passing through. No, yes, thousand, yes,

(01:16:02):
at nine hundred and seventy two I think was my number.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
There you go, this is and that's not You're not
eating you think, no, no, no, no, not at all.

Speaker 6 (01:16:14):
Because you know, let's say you got thirty in a
tree or on the block, and off the thirty only
two and a half I think it was two and
a half have got a band on which is one
in twelve, you know what I mean. So then and
then you start looking on and on and on, and
you count it all up with all my neighbors and

(01:16:34):
all other stuff as well, and in the end you
realize that there are almost a thousand coming past every day.

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
That is unbelieve credible. Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
So this is where education brings me. That's what I
do with maths and teachers and kids, and that is
real McCoy stuff. So these these toehol by the way,
also do a certain circuit and if you are stopping feeding,
they'll go to the other four or five houses in
the neighborhood and they know exactly where to get their talker.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
Well they're back now.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I love it.

Speaker 8 (01:17:07):
I love it. I love it very good.

Speaker 2 (01:17:10):
Hey, thanks for us Ruth that. Yeah, don't forget you
get to watch that video.

Speaker 6 (01:17:14):
I put a video of the Greek. It's a noisy,
noisy stuff. You love it so good?

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
Yeah, yeah, a little all of them feeding away. So
we'll make sure that's available at newstalks dB dot co
dot inwards. Last Jack, we'll catch again next week. Next
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Speaker 2 (01:18:21):
For all the money, all the sponsorship deals, all the
gazillions of dollars that always go along with the Olympic Games,
there are a few things that organizers can never, can
never control, including the weather. As it turned out from
the opening ceremony this morning, nothing too serious, but it
was pooring rain for most of the Olympic opening ceremony

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and in Paris for twenty twenty four. They decided to
spread the Olympic opening ceremony over a large part of
the city in its most recognizable landmarks. The biggest control
the controllables, era or don't control the controllables, as it
turned out in this case, seems to be when they
accidentally raised the Olympic flag upside down, which I don't

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think is the end of the world. It's not the
end of the world anyway. The Olympics are upon us
and here on New Stilks c B. Of course, we're
very excited. In d Before twelve o'clock, we're going to
catch up with Jason Pye. He's completely changing his entire
sleep sheige or ass he so often does for the
sports that he loves and head of Weekend Sport. This
afternoon we're going to get his top picks for the
twenty twenty four games. Right now, it is eight minutes

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past eleven two. And you know how we're always bagging
on phones. We're always saying that phones are bad for
mental health. How our social media has resulted in everyone
having terribly short attention spans. How the irony of the
digital age, in which everyone is supposed to be more
connected than ever, is that increasing numbers of people feel

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more disconnected than ever. Well, Google Sutherland from Umbrella Wellbeing
reckons that is all true, but actually it's not a
black and white equation. There are some real positives that
come from phones, comes to connecting with people, and Google
us with us this morning. Hey Google Jack, I'm very well,

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thank you. Are you Are you fizzing for the games?
Are you into the games?

Speaker 15 (01:20:16):
I don't know if I'm fizzing for them, but I
certainly I was. I certainly had them on this morning
while I was pottering about cleaning up. And yeah, and
I'm you know, you do end up watching diving, So
for four years, let's watch diving.

Speaker 4 (01:20:32):
Weird sports.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Yeah, yeah, badminton awesome, great, Yeah, it's just it's funny again.

Speaker 4 (01:20:43):
Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
I think I think you're speaking for us all on
that front.

Speaker 4 (01:20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
So, like I say, we you know, we do. And
I'm guilty of this breaking phones down into kind of
binary things. Right, Oh, it's all bad, it's a bad
But actually there are some real positives. And I think
that's a really really good suggestion, given how regularly we
hear about the negative health impacts of loneliness and and
the impact of owns on loneliness, to actually focus on

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some of the potential positives as well.

Speaker 3 (01:21:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:21:13):
Absolutely, And I mean if if you think about them,
phones and social media, that their purpose is to connect us.
And there was a new Canadian study out recently that
showed that that, weirdly, about only about a third of
people reached out and sent a message to an old friend,

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you know, somebody they hadn't talked to for a while,
even though they had the time the availability thought the
person would be into it, and all that only only
a third of people actually did, despite despite us knowing
that reaching out to old friends is actually a really
useful way of rekindling social relationships. Yeah, so, you know,

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but it does, I think, point us to the fact that, hey, this,
this could be a way to help combat some of
the loneliness and isolation.

Speaker 10 (01:22:02):
That we often talk about.

Speaker 2 (01:22:03):
Yeah, because it is that great irony right in this
connected a greater numbers of people are feeling more disconnected
than ever because there's a real shallowness that comes with
some of the technologies at our fingertips. But talk us
through some of these positives, then, so what are the
things that might help with connecting with old friends for example?

Speaker 15 (01:22:24):
Yeah, certainly doing a bit of practice.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
You know.

Speaker 15 (01:22:27):
This Canadian study kind of was a series of studies
over time, and they looked at all different sorts of things.
But one of the things I got people to do
was practice sending messages just to current friends, current contacts,
you know, just reaching out normally, sending a text or
an email or whatever. And then if they found that
if people had been doing that to current friends, they

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were more likely to then to transfer that and start
contacting old friends as well. So you know, I think
it's one of those things that you're practicing and you're
getting the mood and I'll just text them as well
or message them as well. And that seemed to be
quite helpful.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
Yeah right, Okay, that that kind of makes sense, I suppose,
although as a habit building thing that day, Oh.

Speaker 15 (01:23:11):
Yeah, I think you're right. I think, you know, you
kind of get into the habit of doing it, You
get into the groove of doing it. Another thing they
found that that is that if you if you imagine
what it would be like. You know, maybe you're looking
at your contacts or your social media and you see, oh,
there's old You know, I haven't spoken to Brian for ages.

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I wonder how he's getting on. Oh gosh, wouldn't have
been nice if he contacted me. So if you imagine
getting a contact from them, we often feel very positive
about that. And so imagine that and then flip it
around and go, well, if I kind of, you know,
if I think it'll be good hearing from him, he
might think the same about me. Maybe I'll just flick
in a text or whatever, so you know, put yourself

(01:23:53):
in their issues for a minute and and you're like pleading,
you know, you're likely to get a positive recept.

Speaker 4 (01:23:58):
Yeah that was another thing they found.

Speaker 2 (01:23:59):
Yeah nice, Okay, Yeah, I mean that makes it. That
makes quite a lot of sense. Again, it requires a
little bit of habit building, but actually just a little
something quite simple like that day, just just trying to
I suppose it's empathy, you know, imagine what exerience would
be like. Then that helps.

Speaker 15 (01:24:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think the third thing
I would say is that, you know, looking through your contacts,
if you see somebody that you used to be pretty
tight with, they're probably a better bit to reach.

Speaker 4 (01:24:27):
Out to than somebody that you oh we did fourth.

Speaker 10 (01:24:30):
Form French together.

Speaker 15 (01:24:32):
Yeah, you know, which maybe a bit looser. You're still
going to get a good outcome. But you know, go
back to those relationships that were strong, they are likely
to be the flames that you can rekindle quite quickly. Yeah,
which again seems common sense. But but but the thing
is about common sense, we often don't We often think
it's sensible, but but we don't.

Speaker 10 (01:24:53):
End up doing it, which is the problem.

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
Yeah, that's exactly right. I have another one too, and
I was before eleven o'clock. I was bagging on the
family chat on WhatsApp, which is very rough of me
because actually I'm probably more insufferable than anyone on the
family chat. But actually I find that group chats are
really valuable with old friends. So for example, because it
means that you don't individually catch up with you know,

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it's kind of like it's it's like many birds with
one stone, if you like, Yeah, I don't I don't
want to. I don't want to sound like a bird
in catching up with old friends. But you know, instead
of having to reach an email for different people, if
you have a group chat and you just say hey,
here's something, guys, and then people kind of enter it
and comment when they can and that kind of thing,
sometimes that can be a really good way to maintain

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those relationships.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. It's a really good idea.

Speaker 3 (01:25:42):
I think.

Speaker 15 (01:25:42):
You know, if you translate that into you know, in person,
that can be a bit outcy sometimes catching up individually
with somebody that you've seen for a while, whereas if
you go you know, as you say, if you go
with a group of people, it's like there's a bit
more banter and you know, you're not kind of stuck
going well, so so.

Speaker 3 (01:25:58):
What do you what have you been doing?

Speaker 15 (01:26:01):
You know that that awkwardness gets diluted a lot because
there's lots of people contributing, and you know, brings back
that camaraderie.

Speaker 4 (01:26:08):
I think too, it's like, honest is great.

Speaker 10 (01:26:10):
We're all kind of getting together.

Speaker 4 (01:26:11):
Yeah, I think it's a great one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
And you don't have to, you know, if they're saying
if everyone was taking a turn to update each other
on their lives, you're not. You're just telling the story once,
you know, here's what's ha made. You're not saying that
I've got to tell Tony and I've got to tell Peter,
and I've got to tell Rebecca and I've got to
tell Justin and you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Yeah, very much.

Speaker 10 (01:26:33):
You can get a bit bored with your own voice.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Yeah, and you can kind of, you know, like you
can kind of you know, rough off each other as
we tend to do, and you know, yeah, I find
that it's half in a really good way as well.
So yeah, very good, Yeah, very good. You have a
good weekend and we will catch again otherland. He is
a clinical psychologist with Umbrella Well Being. Before Midday on

(01:26:56):
news Talk said be we've chosen our album of the week.
It's enough of the sweet talk. It's by Lime Cordial.
Who are this Australian duo brothers who make really catchy
kind of summary poppy indie indie rock. I think that's
the best way that I can describe it anyway. But
I'm sure that our music reviewer Estelle will do a

(01:27:17):
much much better job when she joins us with her
thoughts on the album before midday. As well as that,
a couple of books to recommend, including the latest from
Daniel Silver, which I know will have people very excited.
Just gone quarter past eleven, you're with Jack Tame and
this is news Dogs.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
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Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
The man with the best job in the world. Our
Travel corresponded, Mike Yardley's here, Hey Mike.

Speaker 4 (01:27:42):
Good morning Jack. I'm so pleased she had such a
great time in Rara Tonga. How much ikamata did you consume?

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I consumed a lot of ikamata, I do you know.
I basically just alternated between the fruits ikamata and like
fried fish sandwiches or burgers. I just, oh my god,
this is so there is just there is there are
a few things in this world that I think can
compare with them. With raw fish and with deep fried

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fresh fish, Oh my god. Yeah, yeah, absolutely delicious. So no,
I loved my time there. Actually, you know, it felt
and felt silly. It's just like the obvious things I
was saying earlier in the show that you know, like
I'm always surprised and I don't know why I'm surprised
when I go to Pacific Islands, and I'm always surprised
by how lush and green they are.

Speaker 4 (01:28:27):
Yes, and those those peaks, but they kind of look
like Jurassic.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
I That's exactly it. So I did that. Of course,
I did the cross Island walk and through the needle
on on Roratonga, and when I got to up up
the top there I my wife was getting a message
while I was doing this. I did alone, each to
their own and and I met a lovely young couple
up there, and that was what they said to me,

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And they said, oh, this is kind of like Jurassic Park.
That yeah, exactly, It's beautiful. Anyway, we are focusing on
another fairly warm island, this morning, Corfu your top bites
and sights and Corfu and Corfu is I mean, like
ludicrously close to the coast of Albani right now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:12):
You come on.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
You could swim it, couldn't you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:14):
You could, you really could it, and you wouldn't have
to be an Olympian. It's just three kilometers across the water.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
So this north stretch to work out three k's of
swimming is not nothing. Yeah, yes, but I would, Yeah,
yeah it is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
But the thing about Corfu is it feels so on Greek,
even though it is Greece's northeastern outpost. And if you
look at a map you'll notice that Athaie is so
much closer than Athens. So even though it is Greek,
the architecture is just a mishmash of all the conquerors
who have been enticed to Corfu as much as holiday makers.

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It's Venechian. In fact, it's the Venetians who left the
bigness calling card because they ruled the roost for four
hundred years. So you've got these magnificently colored poundhouses, neoclassical villas.
The land escape, the countryside is just crowned with all
of these pastor painted hilltowns. It is a gorgeous, gorgeous island.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
Oh nice. Would you say it's the greenest of Greeks,
of the Greek island?

Speaker 4 (01:30:18):
Yes, Rara Tongua green. Actually, Jack, it is probably because
of the climate. It's more Adriatic than Mediterranean, so yeah,
a lot more rainfall. In fact, at times when you're
on the Corfu Trail around the island, it's like you're
looking at an Impressionist painting because there's all of these

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time odded farmhouses and cottages virtually swallowed in bougainvillia and
wisteria and jasmine. It is just so verdant. And the
high you climb on that Corfu Trail, the more achingly
beautiful the perspectives become between sea and sky. So yes,
definitely in time to hit the coastal trailers around the island.

Speaker 2 (01:31:03):
Mike, what's so impressive about the Old Fortress?

Speaker 4 (01:31:07):
Well, I'm a James Bond junkie, so when I went
to the Old Fortress, I thought, oh my god, I
can see that Mercedes being kicked off the side of
a cliff and for your eyes only, so I yes,
if you are a James Bond of Fishionado, you may
well know that for your eyes Only was shot almost

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entirely on Corfu, and a lot of the action scenes
happened around the Old Fortress, and it's this incredible fortification
which the Venetians built to keep the Ottomans at bay.
But the thing to do, jack, because it is a
really good purch to my the old town. The thing
to do is go there really early, because Corfu is

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a big cruise port, so you'll get thou the people
disgorging from those ships at around nine o'clock in the morning.
Go there before that, Walk across the moat, head up
the tower of the Old Fortress, and you will get
the most magical view across the watercolor patchwork of terra cots,
of rooftops of the old down as the sun pops up.

Speaker 2 (01:32:09):
Okay, that's a great tip, thank you. They play cricket
on Corfu.

Speaker 4 (01:32:13):
Yes, next to the Old Fortress, they've got this sprawling
square they call the Spianada. It's the biggest public square
in Greece. It's lash, it's leafy, it's full of life.
But brick's the curiosity. And apparently Corfiots as they are called,
are cricket fanatics and it's obviously a hangover from British rule.

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But if you go there on a Sunday, you will
see so many people playing cricket. They are just obsessed
by it, and then flanking one side of the square.
Another really cool area to check out is this enormous
long arcade building called the Listern and it was actually
built by Napoleon. He wanted it to resemble the Rue

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de Rivoli in Paris. So it is absolutely stuffed with
the best coffee houses in Corfu.

Speaker 2 (01:33:02):
Good. So, what are some of the highlights in the
old town.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
Well, it is a jumble of Venetian style of buildings
but really cheerfully painted in oka and rose hues, and
I just love getting lost in the old town. They've
got a fabulous medieval quarter called the Kimpiallo and that
is all you know, your skinny hotties. And at Moscow
Lore they do great gelato in Corfu. Definitely check out

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the kumquat shops in Corfu. It is quintessential corfou So
kum quot those tiny egg shaped fruit, yeah, are like
they're like miniature gods. They found you away from China
to Corfu. Sometime in the eighteenth century, and Corfu has
made it their own. So kume quat liquere absolutely delicious,

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but even better Jack the candid and glazed kum quats.
Buy a box of those. They are the perfect companion
on the Corfu trail.

Speaker 2 (01:33:56):
Yeah, okay, I'm convinced. Well, why is Corfou so popular
at Easter?

Speaker 4 (01:34:02):
Oh my goodness, they go totally crazy. It's just a
riot of festivity and a lot of locals. They celebrate
Easter by having clay pots from high above out there
apartment buildings, smashing them onto the cobbled lanes below. So
if you are going there for Orthodox Easter, keep that
in mind. Step an eye up at what could be
coming down. But it's all about expelling evil spirits. Then

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they get lost on the coume quat the cure and
they have eighteen Phila harmonia orchestras that take to the
streets around the Easter. So it's it's pretty pretty loud.

Speaker 24 (01:34:35):
Yeah, pretty razy, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:34:37):
What about good eats in town?

Speaker 4 (01:34:40):
Yeah, two signature corfe itt Bite. Do recommend past it sado.
It's rich beef and tomato stew, but they serve it
with pasta. It is such a good mix. And if
you are a fan of eggplants, and the Greeks do
love eggplant. In Corfu, they do what they call pastra
kio egg plants. So this eggplant is fried up with cheese,

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pork's army sliced boiled eggs. It's baked in the oven,
then topped with tomato sauce. That is a melon a half.

Speaker 2 (01:35:10):
That sounds great, oh good. And beyond the old town
where is good?

Speaker 4 (01:35:15):
Well, obviously Corfu was loaded with lots of dreamy bays
and beaches. My pick would be a place called Palo Castritza.
It's this chic beachfront village backed by dramatic cluffs, mountains,
carpeted and cypress and fur. But the thing about it
it's west facing, so it's the primo spot for long evenings,

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perfect sunsets and lots of kumquat cocktails.

Speaker 3 (01:35:40):
I have.

Speaker 2 (01:35:41):
Hey, thank you so much mate. Oh this sounds incredibleck yeah,
oh very good. We'll put Mike's tips for enjoying the
parts and sites in Corfu up on the news talk.
He'd be website news Talks. He'd be dot code in
ed Ford's Last Jack for everything from our show next
up Jason Pine. Are very excited Jason Pie and head
a weekend sport with all of his picks for the
twenty twenty four Olympic Games.

Speaker 1 (01:36:06):
Getting your weekend started. It's Saturday morning with Jack Team
on News Talk sed.

Speaker 8 (01:36:11):
B as Man as I started Nit sitting in the dark.

Speaker 3 (01:36:24):
Bringing the two step on the boundary.

Speaker 8 (01:36:27):
Last on the corner.

Speaker 2 (01:36:31):
Eleven thirty on News Talks, Be You a Jack Tam.
Jason Pine is taking us through the afternoon with weekends Sport,
and he's doing the whole stay up all night, sleep
during the day thing for the next couple of weeks
during the Olympics. The most important question then, Piney, were
you more excited about seeing Lady Gaga or Celendon performing
in the opening ceremony this morning?

Speaker 25 (01:36:50):
I thought, Selene down that was quite emotional, I have
to say, because we know her struggles and it must
I mean, that is gutsy for her to go out
there and do what she did.

Speaker 24 (01:36:58):
But yeah, I found that quite emotional.

Speaker 25 (01:36:59):
I'm not a huge opening ceremony guy, Jack, if I'm honest,
you know, it's really just the curtain razor to the
main event or events plural, but I admired the pageant
free and the extravagance and the just the sheer balls
of it from France.

Speaker 2 (01:37:16):
I've got five more questions asking about the fashions that
were on display, the various dancers, the French mythology, the
no no no. I think we can put that to
one side.

Speaker 25 (01:37:25):
I'm not sure the analysis I can give you on
that stuff is a particularly insight. I'm not sure that
the analysis that I can offer is any better. I'm afraid,
never mind hugely exciting. I know both of us absolutely
froth on the Olympics. What events are you most excited
by in the in these games? I am really looking
forward to seeing how we go in the pool. We
haven't won an Olympic medal in the pool since nineteen

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ninety six.

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
Yep, and that could have changed by the time tomorrow.

Speaker 24 (01:37:50):
Correct.

Speaker 25 (01:37:50):
Fairst cross, yep, obviously everything cross. It's a tough it's
a tough feel to eric a fair whether in the
four hundred free. There are five women in history of
swum under four minutes for that event. Four of them
are there, including Erica, So yeah, she's she seems like
a you know, pretty short to make that final tomorrow morning,
six fifty two.

Speaker 24 (01:38:08):
I think it is, you know, she could.

Speaker 2 (01:38:11):
They've got their heats tonight out that it's a grueling event,
so they do. I think heats at nine tonight correct, yeap,
very good.

Speaker 25 (01:38:20):
And the top eight into the final tomorrow morning at
just after ten to seven. So looking forward to that.
And the other one I'm looking forward to in the
first three or four days is the men's triathlon. Hayden Wild,
you'll remember at the at the Birmingham Commonwealth Games, was
penalized for unclipping his helmet just before he took his
hand off his bike. That was you know, micro second stuff,

(01:38:42):
a ten second penalty or whatever the penalty was. It
was enough thing to go from silver a gold to
silver Alex Yee who won gold in Birmingham. These two
have been head to head in the World Triathlon Series forever.
Hayden Wild could win Olympic gold on Tuesday. He really could.
He's an excellent form, good fitness, He's been training at altitude,
doing all the right things. He is another one to

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look out for. I like the traditional sports in the
alle books. I love the swimming, I love the track
and field, but then again, I'm quite keen to see
what happens in the sport climbing as well and becoming
an instant expert.

Speaker 2 (01:39:14):
I mean, sport climbing is have you watched it before?

Speaker 24 (01:39:16):
It's amazing, it's crazy what they can do.

Speaker 8 (01:39:19):
But that's so fast.

Speaker 24 (01:39:20):
Yeah, it's like eight seconds from bottom to top.

Speaker 2 (01:39:22):
And to be honest, if like I was saying at
the start of the show this morning, I like the
primal sports, the sports that it feels like you could
have competed in this two thousand years ago, you know.
So whether it's swimming or sprinting, or throwing or jumping, yeah,
that kind of stuff or flipping right, and sport climbing
I feel is primal sport adjacent and that you know,
it's just it's a basic kind of human skill, right,

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like climbing something as fast as you can.

Speaker 25 (01:39:46):
It was probably used to get away from predators two
thousand years ago. Oh they can't get me up here,
I'll climb to the top of this cliff. No, it's
a good point you make, so, yeah, the fast, highest
stronger mantra.

Speaker 3 (01:39:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (01:39:58):
Look, you know, and I talked before we came to
her about the sleep patterns that are going to be
completely thrown out by this, but you know it's it
doesn't come along in your world.

Speaker 24 (01:40:08):
It's not it is not, no, it is not indeed,
So yeah, looking forward to the next coup.

Speaker 2 (01:40:12):
We do have New Zealand football, of course, are you're
going to be calling the game tomorrow morning, So that's
five o'clock the New Zealand men take on Team USA.
That's right. And so they won that game against Guinea,
which met was a good start. But we've got USA
and France in that pool yep, so it's a tough pool.
But if we were to beat USA would be three
at the quarters.

Speaker 25 (01:40:30):
That's right through to the quarters they made They made
the quarters four years ago or three years ago in
Tokyo and lost on penalties to Japan, so it's not
uncharted territory. But yeah, I thought they were good against Guinee.
Game against USA will be will be pre instructive. Yes,
it'll be a step up. But I feel like New
Zealands footballers now believe that they belong on these big stages.
It's not they're not overawed or just happy to be

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there anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
I like it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
I do too. What's on the sarah of this upon
a bit.

Speaker 24 (01:40:54):
Of Olympics we'll go inside.

Speaker 25 (01:40:55):
The early Whites camp actually talked to Chef the mission
of the New Zealand team, Nigel Avery, keen to hear
from him what are the metrics they use for the
success of the games? Obviously medals, but what else, what
else has to happen for them at the end? Say hey,
that went well, that went well, and how often is
he fighting fires? And you know, the expecting expected because
because it's not like you and I tune up. You know,

(01:41:17):
you're on the radio nine to twelve. I know I'm
on twelve till three. He's just there at the games
and whatever happens happens. So I think it has to
be quite reactionary in many ways, but also making sure
that the other thing as well is I reckon athletes.
You know, when they turn up for these pinnacle events
they have I don't know whether they want to be
bothered that much with you know, the likes of the
welcomes and the connections with the rest of them. They

(01:41:38):
just want to focus on the event.

Speaker 2 (01:41:40):
The problem is that it probably differs, right, some athletes
would be really into it and some athletes don't want
to be totally focused on their event. And you have
to be flexible enough to kind of be athlete led
in that sense, right, but also offer them some leadership
and guidance Like that's really tricky.

Speaker 25 (01:41:55):
Yeah so yeah, so I'll ask those questions of Nigel
Avery Warriors one last night.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
That were still to say that.

Speaker 25 (01:41:59):
Yeah, so we'll have still alive, those myths stay alive
and rutched Ravender on the show this afternoon. So heaven
a chapter and he's playing in the United States Major
League Cricket.

Speaker 24 (01:42:10):
There go, there you go, and anything else that comes
into our focus.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
Yet very good looking forward to it. Thanks like a
busy show and good luck for the next couple of weeks.
Jash Pine with Week in Sport this afternoon. He'll be
with us right after the midday news before twelve o'clock.
We're going to play some of Lime Cordial's new album.
Enough of this week talk next up. If you're looking
for something good to read in between all of the
Olympic sports, two fantastic recommendations for you twenty three to twelve.

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Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
News Talks v twenty one to twelve. Our book reviewer
is Katherine Range. He's here with her picks for us
this weekend. Hey Catherine, Good morning Jack. So Daniel Silver's
got a new book, tell us about a death in Cornwall?

Speaker 5 (01:42:57):
He does.

Speaker 22 (01:42:58):
This is his twenty fourth one and he's retired. Yes,
And in the scabrielle On has retired from the Israeli
intelligence stepwork. But of course, and he works now as
an art restorer and lives in Venice with his wife
and children. But of course, you know, being a good thriller,
he gets ameshed in interta Atory greed and Murder, and
he agrees in the start of this book to go

(01:43:19):
to this unveiling of a recently retrieved stolen self portrait
by Vincent van Gogh at a London gallery. And while
he's there is approached by a friend from his very
uncomfortable past, a guy called Detective Sergeant Timothy Peel, and
Peel wants to enlist his age in his aid and
investigating this murder of Charlotte Break who's this prominent professor

(01:43:39):
of art history from the University of Oxford and her
brutal murder is being attributed to a serial killer, but
there are inconsistencies in what happened to her that aren't
known to the general public, and there's clues for a
reason to suggest that she may have been killed by
somebody else, and Gabrielle soon uncovers data that Charlotte was

(01:43:59):
searching for providence of a Nazi luted Picasso painting worth
more than a million dollars, and its ownership was dated
to an acquisition by a French Jewish businessman who ended
up dying in our Switch in nineteen forty four, and
his only daughter survived, who gave birth to a son,
a young man named Emmanuel, who also has been found dead.

(01:44:21):
And so Gabrielle's wondering if this is a coincidence, and
so he steps up a sting to recover the louted Picasso.
And there's several characters. There's a wonderful woman Ingrid Johnson
who's a professional thief, and an assassin ton British offer
of Christopher Kelly, who've appeared in other books by Daniel Silver,
And so you get these themes of loyalty and betrayal

(01:44:41):
and greed and international politics and lots of character development
in this modern day problem of using art as a
means to launder money for the very rich and to
avoid taxation, and the role of dark money in politics.
And yeah, it's a good read. And it's quite nice
that it's moved away from the intelligent network into the

(01:45:02):
spycraft and the spycraft into the art world. It makes
a bit of a change.

Speaker 2 (01:45:06):
Very good. Okay, So that's a Deethan Cornwell by Daniel Silver.
You've also read After Annie by Anna Kidlin.

Speaker 22 (01:45:13):
So this is a very sad story. And Annie's a
young mother of four who dies very suddenly of a
brain aneurysm. And this happens in the first chapter of
the book. And Annie was a woman who appreciated the
simple pleasures in life. She loved her children and loved
the residents of the nursing home that she worked for.
And the book follows her family and her best friend

(01:45:33):
through the first year after their loss and how each
handles that loss in their own way. And Bill, her husband,
is completely blinded by grief and loses sight of helping
his children on what they need. And thirteen year old Alexander,
who's the oldest child, and though she's a mature for
her age, there's a lot more responsibility that she should
have to caring for the younger children, and is also

(01:45:55):
coping with a secret that her best friend is enduring
and young eleven year old aunt sadness manifests itself in anger,
and the youngest boys are eight and six and they
just lost the lads who just won their mum to
come home, and so it certainly brings tears to the eyes.
And then her best friend, Anne Marie, who had always
looked to Annie for support and guidance, finds herself falling

(01:46:17):
back into old habits and trying to maintain her very
hard thought sobriety. And it's not a complicated story, and
it's quite beautiful and how simple it is, and it
really resonates, and it's that testament to strength and love
and shows lots about family dynamics and struggles and that
real sense of grief and loss after losing their wife

(01:46:38):
for mum and friend, and you know, it also encapulates
those really awkward moments of grief and the quiet struggles.
And it was a very touching story. And I guarantee
you you would need some isssues to read this story.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
All right, that sounds really interesting though, Thank you, Catherine.
So that's after Annie by Anna Quinlan. Catherine's first book
are Deathan Cornwall by Daniel Silver, and both of those
will be on the website of course. Next up, new
music for you from Lime Cordial. It's seventeen to twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:47:06):
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Speaker 3 (01:47:15):
It'd be the.

Speaker 8 (01:47:17):
The same, more apprecia.

Speaker 10 (01:47:22):
She didn't.

Speaker 2 (01:47:38):
This is Lime Cordial. That song is called Happiness Season.
The new album is enough of the sweet talk and
our music reviewers Dell Clifford has been listening Kilds delgn
Morning Caldra Morning.

Speaker 23 (01:47:51):
That's actually turned out to be I think my favorite
track on the album, and I'm always yeah, I'm always
influenced by the artists themselves when they put things up
on social media and they're like, oh, this is actually
our favorite and you're like, oh is it? And I'm
no way, stay with your own thoughts. It's just this
really infectious. I mean a lot of the album kind
of has that real upbeat, infectious sort of vibe about it.

(01:48:13):
But Happiness Season, there's just something I don't know, I
just think melodically and the style of track is just
a really good one. This is a bit of a
journey of a relationship. This album so a concept album
for these guys, which they said kind of happened before
where sometimes the concept comes to them after they've written
a few songs, where this one was like, actually, I

(01:48:34):
think we're telling a journey somewhere along the line. Perhaps
it was going to be like a French menu where
you had all these little entrees into the main and
so there's kind of pepperings of food throughout some of
the songs. But it actually is a related relationship journey.
So you start off with all these quiet, bright sort
of songs. It starts with pedestal, which you know, when

(01:48:54):
you find someone you love, you pop them up on
that pedestal. But also if you listen to the lyrics,
it's still got that kind of tongue in check thing
that these guys are so good at doing yeah, where
you know, maybe yeah, maybe you're not praising the feat
at the bottom of the pedestal. It's very interesting listen
once you delve into those lyrics, which I think is great.
Happiness Season, which is my favorite, is a midpoint in

(01:49:15):
the album where suddenly after that you kind of come
out of Happiness Season and then what happens to a
relationship from there. Not necessarily that you're going down to
some dark, gloomy places with the song or anything, but
I think they've sort of been quite good at capturing
some of those rawer elements of you know that suddenly

(01:49:36):
relationships are affected by other things and society, yeah, pressure
and just stuff changes as you are with someone for
a long time, or friendships as well, I suppose. Yeah,
Imposter Syndrome is a is a great song. I think
probably that actually speaks more to their own relationships to
each other in the music industry as well.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
I thought, do you know, I had not appreciated they've
been around for like fifteen years.

Speaker 11 (01:50:01):
Now they have, and.

Speaker 23 (01:50:05):
When they've played the Australian circuit for a long time
and lots of those indie kind of festivals. But I think,
you know, this is only their third album for event.
I mean, given that they're brothers, I guess they've been
together forever, but holding that music stuff, Yeah, it's surprising,
isn't it. And I think what's happened now is they've
kind of found their groove and then what they do,

(01:50:26):
which is.

Speaker 11 (01:50:26):
That indie pop.

Speaker 23 (01:50:28):
This has got that low fi pop sort of resonance
to it. Imposter Syndrome talks about like how prevalent tool
poppy syndrome is in Australia, which I dare say can
be the case here in New Zealand. Yeah, you don't
want to stand out too much, but you also want
to do something cool, so you kind of hone your
craft to make sure it's not gonna It's.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
A very difficult space to exist in, isn't it. It's
very I want to excel, but I don't want to
stand out.

Speaker 14 (01:50:50):
Yeah yeah right, And in.

Speaker 23 (01:50:52):
That somehow they've still managed to excel, So I think
that's due credit to what they do. There's always some
beautiful brass sections and some real flourishes in some of
the later songs on this album with the trumpet and
stuff they put in kind of country influence. There's a
few wah wah steel guitars and a couple of the songs,
and I think they're just good at that production that

(01:51:12):
keeps it quite interesting. And because they play like every
instrument known to man, so they sort of pep that in,
but not in a way that you go, oh, that
was a bit you know, they meant they blamed it
really well. And again because their lyrics are really I
think they do really delve into their emotions really well.
But also sometimes there's just a bit of cheek to it,

(01:51:34):
which I guess maybe that's the Australian Yeah, and we're
willing to take that. These guys are going on tour,
so they're going to be in New Zealand and October.

Speaker 10 (01:51:45):
They've talked a lot.

Speaker 23 (01:51:46):
About being eco warriors, and they're like, but then, how
do you tour the globe and jet planes when you
know that's what your ethos is. So they're working real
hard on their sustainability. So anyone buying tickets or going
onto any information about their shows, you'll see heaps of
stuff where they're tracking their emissions, talking about how they
can reduce their carbon footprints, they are using evs wherever

(01:52:10):
they can, reducing waste, and then every venue they're asking
to do something, it is really obvious that they're helping
the environment. So that's kind of cool. And also I
wonder if they'll have their beer they've made like a
carbon neutral bear. Oh so maybe i'll sell that at
their gigs your Lago Lago okay, yeah, so everything that,
all the processes of making that beer. Yeah, you all

(01:52:31):
go back into the environment.

Speaker 2 (01:52:32):
Basically very good. Okay, so I want to give it
and happy your words, not mine. Stelle love it.

Speaker 23 (01:52:42):
It's a nine out of ten, really great listen. Yeah,
it's really grown on me. If you can go from
start to finish a couple of times and then pick
out your faves because you get to follow that sort
of glowing in demise.

Speaker 2 (01:52:52):
Ah yeah, okay, cool, that makes sense. Hey, thank you.
We're going to have a bit more of a listen
to enough of the Sweet Talk by Lime Cordy. We
are just their third album, which is interesting given they
have been around on the scene for a wee while now.
But nine out of ten that Stelle reckons. It's we'll
have a bit more of a listen. I'll pick up
a good song to play for you in a couple
of minutes on news talks. He'd be right now. It's
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Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
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Of course we've had a little bit of football already,
we've had a little bit of rugby sevens, but the
rest of the Olympic Games really kick off from about
seven o'clock New Zealand time this evening. If you want
to know what's on and when various kiwis are in
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listening to all of that. Thank you very much for
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For last Jack is the place to go if you
want anything from our show. Jason Pine has taking you
through the afternoon with weekend sport counting down to the
rest of the competition in the Games. I'm back with
you next Saturday morning at nine. Until then, have a
great week, and we're gonna leave you with enough of
the sweet talk from Lime Cordial. The song's cold treatment.

(01:55:06):
She acted.

Speaker 26 (01:55:13):
That's a cold treatment, you kid, but we don't even know.
Whatever ranted. That's a cold treatment. You cop in th sway.

Speaker 17 (01:55:26):
Your three minutes. That's the trip in chick.

Speaker 14 (01:55:33):
We don't even know.

Speaker 8 (01:55:35):
We never acted.

Speaker 2 (01:55:38):
That's a cold treat me see your treat minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
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