Full Show Podcast: 10 August 2024

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In a Good Morning New Zealand, Welcome to news Dog eDV.
I'm Jack Tame with you through to twelve o'clock midday today.
It is an embarrassment, an embarrassment, an embarrassment of sporting
riches this weekend. Okay, we've had gold overnight, We've had
silver overnight, Incredible performances in the K two five hundred,
and of course where shy in the women's shot put.

(01:08):
In the next twenty four hours or so, we're gonna
have Lydia Coe playing for gold in the women's golf.
You've got Hamish Kur jumping for gold in the men's
high jump, the K one five hundred, Lisa Carrington and
Amy Fisher, plus the track cycling, plus David Lettie, plus
an all BLACKX test. Like I say, it is an
embarrassment of sporting riches. We're gonna be looking at all

(01:29):
of those on newstalks. He'd be this morning, plus our
feature interview this morning is a man who loves sporting
contests and loves all of the weird, obscure moments of
the Olympics. Kiwi comedian Tom Sainsbury is with us in studio,
so cannot wait for that. Right now, it's eight past nine,
Jack Team. Honestly, I just don't want it to end.

(01:51):
I cannot bear the thought of these Olympic Games ending.
Has two weeks really passed that quickly?

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (02:00):
Honestly, my entire life, the daily rhythms of our household
have entirely come to revolve around the Olympic Games. There
isn't a dinner that has cooked, a lunch box that
is prepared, a table that has wiped down, or a
basket of washing that is folded without the steady hum
of speed climbing or synchronized diving, or the men's eight

(02:23):
hundred meters ramp a charge in the background. So these
are my takeaways from Paris twenty twenty four. First of all,
I love the way in which sporting history turns on
the finest human margins. The mean one hundred meter final,
I think, was the perfect example. The way they broke
the line in such a crowd that both first and

(02:45):
second place, recorded the same time on the TV in
stadium clocks and with a microscope and a high quality photo.
Apparently the silver medallist somehow broke the line first, but
he did so with his foot, with his foot and
not with his chest, and ultimately it's whoever's chest breaks
the line first that when the race history decided by

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five one thousandth of a second. I said before the
Games that I was really looking forward to the men's
fifteen hundred meters, and I tell you what, it did
not disappoint. The two favorites had been talked up so
much and had smacked talked each other so much that
basically everyone including me, had worked themselves into a state
where it felt like those were the only two runners

(03:31):
who could possibly win Olympic gold. And the defending champion
was so cavalier that in the heats he deliberately didn't
crouch from the start of the race. He waited for
the starting gun, let everyone else run off in front
of him, and then casually trundled after him. The commentators
were saying, right, this is just plain disrespectful. But in
the final, yakob Ingebritson's approach came back to bite him.

(03:54):
He led for the first eighty or eighty five percent
of the race. He was setting a cracking pace as
he tried to break his great rival. This guy from
Britain called Josh Kerr, and on the final stretch Kerr
looked to go around Inger Britson, and Inger Briton kind
of drifted into lane two to try and block the overtake.
But what do we know about geometry? The inside lane,

(04:18):
Lane one has the shortest path to the finish line.
And as the two favorites scrapped it out in lanes
two and three, an American runner, this guy called Cole Howker,
slipped in on the inside and pipped them for Olympic
glory Curve finished second, Inger Brits and fourth. It was
it was extraordinary. It was amazing. So with the day

(04:39):
to go before the closing ceremony, here's my take on
the Olympic sports. I love many of the newer ones.
Sport climbing, welcome to the Olympics. So good, so good.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
It fits into my could a caveman do it? Category,
which I think is a really excellent measure for whether
individual sports should be at the Olympics. Think about it, right,
Swimming could a caveman do it?

Speaker 5 (05:01):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Shot put javelin could a caveman do it? Yes? Running,
could a caveman do it? Yes? Climbing could a caveman
do it? Yeah? And I'm not just saying it because
Finn Butcher won gold, but I reckon the kayak cross
is an absolute revelation. It's such a spectacle, it's so good.
It just feels like fir just like anyone could win
any race. The same applies to skateboarding. Actually, such spectacle

(05:26):
a it's so good. I mean no disrespect to any
of the athletes in these sports, but I am a
little bit ambivalent on surfing at the Olympics. If I'm
totally honest and as spectacular as the breaking has been
this morning, it is gonna take me a bit longer
to get used to break dancing at the Olympics. Honestly,

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I don't think that football should be at the Olympics.
The same with tennis and golf, although of course, if
Lydia Coe wins gold in the next twenty four hours,
I might have to go and scrub that from the internet.
Those sports, I just think they're big enough outside of
outside of the Games, and maybe the best test should
be whether or not the Olympics is the pinnacle competition

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in that respective sport, you know what I mean. And
if it's not, then perhaps leave it out. One of
the things that I think has been great about the
Games is just how well attended all of the events
have been. The crowds for everything have been massive, like
massive crowds at the judo, at the fencing, at the
sport climbing. I also love how refreshing it is to

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hear from athletes who you know, aren't like rugby players,
who have had every scintilla of life and personality of
beaten out of them by overly protective media managers over
the years. Favorite athlete of the Games, it's got to
be some own Biles. Surely she is the queen of
the Paris Olympics. And as for my favorite kiwi performance, well,
we still have that incredible contest and the women's k

(06:51):
one to come. It's gonna be amazing. Wat'sing Lisa Carrington
and Amy Fisher take to the water, and of course
there are several other kiwis who could be a chance tonight,
But for me, it is still going to be hard
to beat, our very first medal of Paris twenty four,
our very first goal. There's something about the women's sevens
team that just I don't know. There's something there's something

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they've got that expector there's something magic, don't you think?
Tell you what though. I don't like Mondays at the
best of times, but I reckon this week and Monday
of this week is going to be really, really tough.
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(07:34):
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Speaker 1 (07:42):
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Speaker 2 (07:51):
Jeef's got a controversial take, Jack. I agree with your
comments this morning. Rugby golf and I love golf, tennis, basketball, soccer,
maybe even hockey shouldn't be there. I'd love to see
darts added. I think they are hitting dance, an't they
I think they might be ending done. I've got to
check that for you. Jee disagree with you on rugby
because rugby sevens. I think if it was rugby fifteens
would make sense. And rugby sevens is just such a

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spectacle as well. It's the sort of thing that people
can pick up relatively easily if they're not that familiar
with the sport, and you have a real kind of
carnival vibe. Basketball got to keep it, especially because for
international basketball, Olympics are still the biggest thing. Tennis year
lose it, Soccer year lose it, Hockey keep it. That's
my good anyway, thanks for that, GEF ninety two ninety two.
If you want to send us a message, Kevin Milne

(08:32):
is with us this morning. Kyodai Jack.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
I'm doing you from Hamilton.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
Yeah, very good. Have you been enjoying the games, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (08:40):
I've been loving the game, absolutely loving the game. Yeah.
I just can't say that my what's that sport? We
go running out the running at the side walls.

Speaker 2 (08:51):
Oh, speed climbing.

Speaker 6 (08:52):
Yeah, yeah, that's my that's I'm righting for that.

Speaker 7 (08:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
What you want to have is that I like watching
the sport climbing mix, so you have the lead climbing
and the bouldering as well. They're just they're amazing athletes.
And and like I was saying before about climbing, it
fits into my primal sport category. So my cave could
a caveman do it? Obviously the caveman wouldn't have the
harness and all of that kind of thing. But I
really like the sports that test kind of basic human skills.

(09:19):
So whether it's well, you know, whether it's run, jump, swim,
whether it's you know, whether it's throwing something really far,
or whether it's climbing. And I feel like that's.

Speaker 6 (09:28):
The one for you. Yeah, I've got the one for you.
I'd love to see it back at the Olympics.

Speaker 5 (09:34):
Tug of War.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Why not? Why not see Apparently.

Speaker 6 (09:39):
Of War used to be in the Olympics. Yeah, in
the early days, and I don't understand why it's not there.
It would be a great, great.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Space really at the Olympics. I didn't know that, and
I mean, yeah, that is that is amazing. Yeah, I
think nineteen twenty four and nineteen twenty There you go. Anyway, Kevin,
You've had a surprise this week. In between all of
the Olympic excitement, your local zoo has surprised you.

Speaker 6 (10:03):
Yeah, I was amused surprise. But a news release from
Wellington Zoo on Thursday it read let's all give a
warm welcome to Wellington Zoo's newest arrivals, Onyx and Beryl.
They might think this is the preable to the arrival
of a couple of baby primates or mother and daughter gerafts,

(10:25):
but no, there are a couple of Romney cross sheep.
The newest editions to the zoos Meet the locals section. Now,
my daughter's reaction that Wellington Zoo had hit rock bottom
I thought a little harsh. But if we're being entireed
to visit the zoo to see some sheep, it suggests

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times might be tougher for zoos than we thought. On
the other hand, and looking at it, things a lot
more positively, this may be the start of a desirable trend.
Instead of hauling rare animals out of their home environments
all over the world, zoos become places kids go to
see animals from their own backyard. And I don't mean dogs,

(11:08):
cats and goldfish, but maybe native deer and goats, tar
and Shamois or Jenny, maybe yellow eyed penguins Kiwi and tuatara,
and od of birds like Kira and cacapot, maybe a
royal albatros. And then of course for the city kids,
you could have farm animals like horned Highland cattle, big

(11:32):
fluffy marinos remember Shrek. Yeah, you know, a Clydesdale horse
or two donkeys, eld packers, lamas. Then they go there's
the section where you got to see stoat, spirits, hedgehogs
and bosom. I don't know, sure it's not the exotic
image of zoos gone by, but maybe the arrival at

(11:55):
Wellingtons the suite of Rodney Cross sheep, it's a glimpse
into the future of New Zealand zoos.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
Yeah, yeah, maybe it's It's not the thing isn't that
they have Rodney Cross being announcers new arrivals.

Speaker 6 (12:11):
At the zoo.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, yes and no. I mean I agree with you
that compared to a you know, compared to a lion
or a rhinoceros or something, it might not have that
kind of exoticism. But I suppose for a lot of
city kids getting up close and personal with a sheet
that relatively close to a sheep might be kind of exciting, and.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Really it may be.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
And from an animal wealthier perspective too, you know.

Speaker 6 (12:36):
Yeah, yeah, we're having all these problems with you know,
elephants and all this sort of stuff getting the mirror
and finding him and then sending them back, and I'm
just wondering whether maybe there's something in it, yeah, where
we turn the zoos into just local animals that, as
you say, city kids never get to see.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, yeah, we'll see, Kevin. Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting
to see what people think about that. Thank you very much, Kevin.
Give them on with us this morning. I've looked up
some of the old, crazy, old Olympic sports that they
used to have. So tag of war was there for
a few years, which is good. Pistol dueling, and the
thing with your pistol dueling is I mean the sort
of is no second place is there? No one's getting
the silver medal and the pistol dueling.

Speaker 8 (13:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I think they used non lethal rounds. I hope they
use non lethal rounds. And the nineteen hundred Olympics in
Paris they also did live pigeon shooting, so it was
just whoever could shoot the most the most live pigeons. Again,
there's a TV spectacle if ever there were one, ninety
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Talks yed B. Time to catch up with our sporto
Andrew Savill and sav I started the show this morning
with one word and embarrassment. I said, embarrassment. It is
an embarrassment of riches when it comes to the sporting weekend.
Not only do we have several new medals for the
New Zealand Olympic team, we have several medal prospects competing
in the next twenty four hours and an all blacks

(15:14):
tests to boots. So there you go. Let's start off
with the Olympics.

Speaker 5 (15:16):
What did you know has started?

Speaker 2 (15:18):
Of course that that was about to roll off.

Speaker 9 (15:22):
And the the wires are still.

Speaker 10 (15:23):
Clinging on to fat.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
They've got the mat, get the algorithm going for the
wars and we'll see if they can do it. No,
I mean it is. It is an amazing sporting weekend.
But then start off with the Olympics because for me,
at the very least, that has been consuming everything so far.
What did you make of that amazing performance from Maddie
Wishy fantastic.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yep, she's She's always been there or thereabouts, and I
think sometimes people read her very relaxed demeanor in the
wrong way. Yeah, with the sunglasses on and sort of
sitting on the seat waiting for her turn to put
the shot, looking very very relaxed. That's just her style.
She's always had immense talent and that's now being realized.

(16:01):
And she was very very close to winning gold this morning,
which is fantastic to carry on that wonderful legacy of
Dame Valerie Adams. But yeah, I thought it was thought
it was a super performance. I think a lot of
people in the know might have rated her as a
medal chance for the Games in silver. Maybe some wouldn't

(16:22):
have predicted bet.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
And right up until that last throw that she was
in the gold medal position.

Speaker 5 (16:27):
Right we didn't qualify and she just got up their
first throw, bang, gone into the final. What I what
I loved last night as well, Jack, was that K
two victory. I don't think I've ever seen such a
dominant performance in kayaking for them to win the Lisa

(16:48):
Hoskin and Dame Lisa had win by more than a
boat lead over five hundred meters against the Hungarians the Germans.
It was staggering, absolutely staggering, and they never looked like losing.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
So dare I put you on the spot? Then for
the k on five hundred final, this incredible contest between
Lisa Carrington and Amy Fisher, presuming they both get through
the semis, which I think they were probably should yea,
who's your peck?

Speaker 5 (17:17):
I Amy Fisher has been paddling very real well, obviously
she's beaten Carrington a couple of times, but I just
can't see Dame Lisa Carrington losing an Olympic final.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
Put it that way, Yeah, I mean we just we
just don't see it, do we. We're just not used
to that.

Speaker 5 (17:35):
So just watching her in the four and then last
night in the two, what an absolute machine. And I
say that in the nicest possible way. She doesn't flinch
in that K four. I don't think I've ever seen
a paddle boat, a kayak boat with such metronomic timing.
Kids perfectly still bodies pretty much perfectly still apart from

(17:58):
rotating the paddle. But yeah, that was that K four
was outstanding as well. I just given her mental strength
as well, I think she'll I think she'll do it.

Speaker 2 (18:11):
Yeah, I think it's a I mean, it's a pretty
good bet, isn't that a.

Speaker 5 (18:16):
Having Again, I listened to you early on, the games
have been amazing. I think I think that one of
the biggest highlights have been the crowds. It looks like
everything has pretty much sold out.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Everything, I mean even even stuff like the you know,
the sport climbing. I think they have like the build
a stadium that sets about three and a half thousand,
like a temporary stadium. It's huge and and you know that,
you know, we've obviously got colleagues and friends who have
been enjoying the games in person, and you know, they
said that the the way they've managed to build atmosphere

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at all of these venues is really something. So you know,
you usually expect a really amazing atmosphere at the swim
meets and that kind of thing, but like even watching
the skateboarding. Skateboarding is a great example. You know, you've
got a DJ playing, there snoop dogs in the stands.
It's just there's something about the vibe that is really amazing.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
Like the opening ceremony I think the French have done
at their own way, which they always do bugger everyone else.
But what they've done is they've created a real vibe.
I think I know a lot of restaurant tours and
cafe owners in the in the in Paris have been
a little bit disappointed with the with the amount of
people turning up, but clearly those who have turned up

(19:24):
have been going to the game. I've been spending all
day at the venues and that that's the that's the
beauty of having the Games in Europe. Very easy to
get to for Europeans obviously, And yeah, just I think
you know that the heat has been a struggle for some,
but I think the crowds have been been absolutely immense.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
So if we were to meddle in another event in
the remaining in the remaining Games, you've got You've got
David Lizzie, You've got Hamosh Cure in the in the
high jump, you've got the track cycling. Lydia Co currently
sitting first equal hitting is the final round of the
women's golf. If there was one that you think is
most likely anything.

Speaker 5 (19:58):
Wow, I'd say Hamish Kur to meddle yep, possibly gold.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
It was so stressful.

Speaker 5 (20:06):
Well, he almost didn't make the final for goodness, ay,
but he's got that out of his system. So Hamish
kirt the way, I watched a bit of Lidia co
playing last night and that she's in that zone. She's
and so I wouldn't be surprised at all if she's,
if she holds on and wins by two or three shots,
Like you, I don't think golf belongs he. I don't

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think tennis or football or surfing belong there. I think
they need to have a bit of a rethink. The's
talk of gaming coming in in the next four or
eight years.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
That would be ridiculous as well.

Speaker 5 (20:38):
But anyway, that's a matter for another day, a.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
Man for another day. That's crazy that we pushed it
this far down. But I don't know if you heard
there was an all backs test being played down in
the capital. Yeah, I don't know, if you get to
come across your radar at all.

Speaker 5 (20:50):
Yeah. And I don't think it's sold out yet, which
is not I don't think Eeden Park sold out for
next week either, and I think that maybe suggests that
or is appointed to the opposition. I think Argentina might
stick with the all blacks from bit tonight, but then
the all black side should pull away. Argentina. Yes, they
made the semi finals last year of the World Cup,

(21:11):
but I don't I don't think what they used to
be anyway, some good experience in the pack.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
But I think You're Black should should.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
Win that comfortably in the end. But it just goes
to show a lot of attention drawn off them into
the Olympics, and it'll be interesting to see what the
crowds like tonight.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna have to set up like a
very complicated multi screen slash like gold sport News talks.
He the situation, you're.

Speaker 5 (21:38):
Going, I have full faith in you.

Speaker 2 (21:40):
Well, it's got because you've got the marathon. The men's
marathon is on this evening at the same time as
the All Blacks, so and I love the marathon, So
it's going to be.

Speaker 5 (21:47):
It's going to be a run yourself being.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yes, not exactly Olympic adjacent, I might add though, but yeah,
and I can't wait. Thank you so much, sir, that's
our sporto Andrew Sevil, thank you for your feedback as well.
Jacks is Nick too many different ways to get up
and down the pool. As far as I'm concerned, we
could thin out some of the swimming competition. Then just
you say that, Nick, I've got to mate who reckons
that they should cut all of the different strokes in

(22:12):
the pool, so you should only have freestyle. So basically
a race should just be how fast can you get
from there to there? So he reckons they should be
no backstroke, no, no breaststroke, no no butterfly as specified races,
and that everything should be freestyle. And of course in
freestyle you can swim the way we think a freestyle,
which is actually called the front crawl. But I think

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technically you can choose what style you want to swim.
So if for some reason you were a freakishly fast
backstroker and you could swim backstroke faster than most people
could swim front crawl, then you could swim that in
the freestyle. But I don't know, I think that's a
very controversial. Take ninety two ninety two is our text
number twenty five to ten your film picks for this
week next every what did be you with?

Speaker 6 (23:07):
Jactam?

Speaker 2 (23:07):
If you've been watching the Olympics or any of the
Olympics using your Google Chrome cast, we've got news to you.
After ten o'clock this morning, they're actually changing chrome cast
and that Google is no longer going to support it.
So what's it going to mean if you use chrome
cast to watch stuff at home? We will give you
all of the details and about forty five minutes or
so after ten o'clock this morning. Right now it is

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twenty two minutes to ten, and speaking of watching good stuff,
our film review of Francesca Radkin is here this morning.
Hey Francesca, good morning. We have two films to recommend
this morning, so let's start off with a little bit
of a listen to It ends with us.

Speaker 11 (23:43):
We all have an idea of what life can be.
That special connection you feel, that first kiss for fifteen seconds,
that's all it takes to completely change it.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Bye, Bam. It ends with us. Tell us about it, Franziska.

Speaker 12 (24:12):
So this has been highly anticipated by fans of author
Colleen Hooper. I am not a co host and I
haven't read the book, so I'm going to talk about
this purely from a film point of view books and
I did leave the very very packed cinema. I did
hear a lot of people talking about, you know, a
lot of fans saying that they were pleased with how
this has been adapted This is the Romantic Drama. The

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book was released in twenty sixteen. It was sort of
a social media breakthrough book. It was huge on TikTok
and BookTalk and things. And Coline Hooper from One Together
writes quite fun, character driven, easy sort of to read stories,
but she throws in quite serious issues and in this
particular case, domestic violence. To be honest, on screen, it's

(24:55):
a little bit of a weird mix. You have these gorgeous,
glamorous people seemingly living their best lives. There is an
element of fantasy to it. Our main character is of
course called Lily's Blo some Bloom, which is probably an
improbable I think Jack and So sort of a Hollywood
version of romance. But then you have the serious issues
like domestic violence. And to be fair, I think the

(25:16):
filmmakers have treated it with care and with a great
amount of respect. But coming back to that mix, I
think they're oversimplified a little bit, and I'm not sure
that when they're talking about abuse and trauma and the
silence that comes with it, it should be this palatable,
if that makes sense. I think Black Syde does really
good job as a lead character.

Speaker 10 (25:36):
She draws you in.

Speaker 12 (25:37):
This film didn't have an emotional hit for me, but
I did get on board and I did want things
to resolve well, you know, I wanted I wanted a
good outcome. I did kind of get involved. So I
think they've done a good job. I don't think it's
a maybe it's a little bit like the book you
read that you enjoy it and.

Speaker 6 (25:53):
You move on.

Speaker 2 (25:55):
Yeah, okay, Hey, I just think for people who maybe
missed it, do you want to explain what a co
ho is?

Speaker 13 (26:01):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (26:01):
That's they're the fatons of Colleen Hoover.

Speaker 2 (26:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that coh. Yeah, I'm
in it. Yeah, okay, they could.

Speaker 12 (26:09):
Have come across. I imagine that you that could have
come across.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
No, no, I just discovered. I was good to clarify
these things, see exactly. Yes, okay, okay, so that's it
ends with us. So that showing in cinemas at the moment.
Also showing in cinema is how to make millions before
Grandma dies. So this is a bit of a comedy.

Speaker 12 (26:24):
Yeah yeah, well yeah, it's a gentle comedy. It's really beautiful.
It's screening now. I caught it this week, and it's
kind of slipped under the radar a little bit, and
I wanted to tell people about it because it is.
It is really beautiful, it's moving, and it's been a
huge hit in Southeast Asia, and it's also become a
viral hit because people have been filming themselves crying at

(26:46):
the end of this film. So it's from Thailand. The
theme is very universal. It's a it's a film about
bombs within a family, and it looks at what sort
of happens to a family when a matriarch or a
senior member of a family is dying, and how the
whole family reacts and how they come together or don't.
And you know, kisicate. So the plot revolves around his

(27:08):
young university student m he's kind of dropped.

Speaker 10 (27:10):
Out of school.

Speaker 12 (27:11):
He wants to be a game caster, but he's pretty
useless at he's very aimless, and when his grandmother gets it,
he decides that he's going to go and look after
his grandmother because he's hoping that then he'll become the
number one family member and he will inherit her house
and this is an easy way to make some money.
But she's a very switched on woman with grandmother and
she knows her family and her children and her grandchildren
very very well, and so we kind of progress throughout it.

(27:33):
She becomes a we progress throughout this illness, and it's
just watching the way the different family all kind of
interact and move around this kind of momentous sort of
moment in their lives, and it's just really beautiful.

Speaker 9 (27:47):
It is.

Speaker 12 (27:47):
There is just gentle humor, lovely honesty, and as much
as I knew it was going to make me try
and cry, I did genuinely have it all here in
my eyes. So got to flex stock colon and you'll
be able to find where it's screaming around you. But
it's definitely worth catching.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
Yeah, Okay, cool, that's how to make millions before grandma dies.
I reckon, that's the best option for me this week.
Thanks Francisca. Francisca's first film was It Ends with Us,
And we'll put all of the details for those movies
up on our website, as we do with error thing
from our show on Saturday mornings. And if you're not
feeling like making it to the cinema, you really feel
just like veging out on the couch this weekend after ten,

(28:23):
I'm going to tell you about some amazing new TV shows,
including a brand new series from Sadavid Edinburgh. Well I
mean Sadavid Edinburgh, I mean obviously the Goat, but also
still churning out series at I think ninety eight or
ninety nine, like he's working into his late nineties at
the very least, which is super impressive. So we'll tell

(28:46):
you about that series and where you can see it
after ten o'clock. Right now, it is seventeen minutes to ten.
A lemon and cream sponge roll recipe for you in
a couple of minutes. You're with Jack Tame and this
is news dog z'db.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Saturday Mornings with Jack Tay keeping the conversation going through
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Speaker 2 (29:07):
He'd be thank you so much for all of your
messages this morning. Jack absolutely loved your opening spiel. Sounds
like your household is just like ours. Jack, totally agree.
These Olympics have been epic and I'm just like you
folding the washing whilst watching the games. This is the
thing we like. We've transitioned seamlessly in our house from
watching the European football Championships to watching as much of

(29:30):
the Olympics as possible. And I'll tell you what. Nothing
motivates a seven year old on a school day to
eat his breakfast, put his play in the dishwasher, brush
his teeth, get changed for school. Nothing at pack his bag,
make sure his books are in his bag. Nothing motivates
him like knowing that he'll be able to sit down
and watch a little bit of Olympic Games once he's done.

(29:51):
I've never seen a seven year old so prompt in
all of my life. Ninety two ninety two is our
text number if you want to flick the your message.
Of course, you can email me if you like as well.
It's fourteen minutes to ten on news talks. He'd be
in our cook Nicki Wex is here to fuel us
through the last thirty six hours of the games. Hey Nikki, Hello, Yes, so.

Speaker 8 (30:08):
Was I was?

Speaker 13 (30:09):
I inspired by the rolling of the gymnasts and all
that by this sponge roll.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I don't know, but I'm with you on the Olympics.

Speaker 13 (30:15):
We we didn't have a TV as kids at all,
and I thought that was because we were poor, and
I later on in life found out that was not true.
It was because my parents had made a very serious
decision not to have.

Speaker 2 (30:28):
TV, which is great, a great decision, which is great.

Speaker 13 (30:31):
But we would hire it for the Olympic Games.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
You wouldn't, so yeah we Dad would hire a TV.
And we were yeah we water. So there you go.
I know they must have been so exciting to see you.
So you have the excitement having a TV and not
only having a TV, but it's a TV to watch
the Olympics.

Speaker 13 (30:48):
There you got Nadia Komenichi was in her prime?

Speaker 14 (30:51):
What else?

Speaker 13 (30:52):
What else?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Okay? Run us through this recipe as well as.

Speaker 13 (30:56):
My childhood, Yes, was filled with chocolate logs, which I loved.
My mother seemed to be able to whip them up
on the regular. And then I'm sort of drowning in
lemons at the moment. So there's this thing to lemons
everywhere in the yard and my fruit bowls, et cetera.
So I just decided to give this a crack and
it worked out really well. It's a lemon scented sponge
roll and super simple, so oven goes on one seventy.

(31:18):
I did this in a Swiss roll tin. Actually I
did it in one that was ever so slightly bigger
some mine was a little bit thin of the sponge.

Speaker 15 (31:24):
But there you go in a.

Speaker 13 (31:25):
Large bowl, you whisk four eggs and you whisk those
with some caster sugar round about probably a thoo. I've
got one hundred grams here, which is round about a
third of a cup of caster sugar. And until it
goes at the alchemy of eggs and sugar jack, Honestly,
it is just unbelievable. And so it goes thick and creamy,

(31:46):
and it triples in volume, and then sift in and
you know me, I'm not a big swifter, but I
do sift in for this one because you want it
to have a really light landing, because you want to
keep all that air in it. One hundred grams of
plain flour, which is somewhere between a quarter and a
third of a cup really, and a teaspoon of baking
powder along with some lemon zest, and I use in
this probably about two tablespoons of lemon zest. Fold that

(32:09):
into the mixture until it's incorporated. You don't want to
take any of the volume out of that mix if
you can, but it does go down a little bit.
Pour it gently into a Swiss rolltin that you've lined,
shake it into the corners or just gently sort of
spatch luerid into those corners. The great thing about this
jack is it cooks in about ten to twelve minutes
until that sponge kind of springs back to the and

(32:32):
then once that is you just what you need to
do is you need to put another big sheet of
baking paper down on the bench and you flip the
cake out on that. I usually dust that with that
big sheet of baking paper with a bit more cast
to sugar and tip it out. Take the paper that
it was cooked on off and then gently fo roll
it up and I roll it up from the short side,

(32:55):
and you just allow it to call okay, and that
gives it kind of some sort of muscle memory we're
all about the Olympics, so that the sponge will then
be able to kind of reroll later when you fill it.
I've filled this with some beautiful cream. I just whipped
up some cream with some icing sugar to give it
kind of an extra thickness. I also put two tablespoons
of sour cream and with that two hundred meals of cream.
More lemon zest goes in there. Whip it up to

(33:17):
it's really stiff. Once you once your sponge roll has
cooled completely, you just gently unroll it and spread it
with that cream and then reroll it. And it's a
really good idea to then let it sit in the fridge.
You've got plenty of that baking paper. Wrap it up
in there and it really kind of sets it if
you like, and then slice away and you'll see by
the photograph that I sent you, actually, listeners might note

(33:41):
that the big roll is kind of slightly off camera,
and that's because I'd eaten about half.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
By the time I remember to take a photo. So
I've cleverly the perils of the job.

Speaker 13 (33:52):
The job.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
It's really beautiful.

Speaker 13 (33:54):
It's just scentered beautifully with that sort of fresh citrus
and yeah, it's really lovely, beautiful.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
With a little Hey, we've just got a great text
in that I've got to read you. I'm fifty five.
This is for Nicky. I'm fifty five. Today was the
first time in my life I've ever heard of someone
else who grew up without a TV, but whose parents
hired one for the Olympics. But the absence of the
TV and the highlighting of the Olympics for a brilliant
move by my mom and dad. They're so good.

Speaker 13 (34:20):
There is that great.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I love it.

Speaker 13 (34:22):
I suppose the equivalent these days is buying a subscription
to Sky for the month or whatever.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, I'm doing something.

Speaker 13 (34:29):
But it was pretty It was such a treat and
I loved that they bought it for you know, that
they hired it and for that. It was really fantastic.
So great. There's probably the other listeners out there. We
must be all in our fifties.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah, yeah, so good, right, al, Hey, thank you so
much that. I mean, it sounds amazing. And like you say,
like there is just such an abundance of lemons at
the moment, it's hard to know what to do with them.

Speaker 10 (34:50):
All.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
I know you don't drink, but he's what I've done.
From my point, I've brewed my own lemon cello for
the first time.

Speaker 13 (34:57):
Oh my goodness, I thought you were going to say
that that's amazing.

Speaker 2 (35:01):
It was absolutely delicious and I feel so sophisticated. I
just I'm just fine. It's really just a bottle of
hooch with a bit of lemon.

Speaker 16 (35:12):
Hey, try it.

Speaker 13 (35:12):
Try it drizzled over a little bit of ice cream
with whipped cream.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
I know, why do you need more cream?

Speaker 13 (35:19):
That's what. But it's that the whipped cream kind of
hardens ever so slightly and then you get the lemon.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
Callo, okay, yeah great, just to just to make that
even more healthy on a bit of a treat. Yeah,
very good. Hey, thank you so much. You have a
great weekend. We'll catch again very soon. That's Nicky Wax.
Her recipe for the lemon and cream sponge roll will
be on the news Talks he'd b website. It's eight
minutes to ten.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
Giving you the inside scoop on all you need to
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Speaker 2 (35:53):
This is so good Jack, good morning. Our house has
been transfixed by the Olympics over the last couple of weeks.
Getting ready for the day has never been so easy
with a seven year old, of five year old and
a two year old all becoming Olympians and racing the
clock to get ready for the day. Empty the dishwasher,
no problem, Make your bed, fold pajamas, tie your room
never easier. My husband and I have become judges having

(36:14):
to award gold, silver, or bronze for the speed and
difficulty rating and presenting medals. It is so good. Going
back to reality is going to be so difficult. Yeah,
I'm with you one hundred percent on all of that.
The thing, one of the many things I love about
the Games too, is watching these these sports that you
don't engage with a whole lot. Let's be honest, in
between Olympic years and then throwing out absurd sporting comparisons

(36:40):
and the hypothetical question I love the most at Olympics
time is if you had to win an Olympic gold
in the future, so from today, right from the tenth
of August twenty twenty four, I said to you, you
absolutely have to win Olympic gold at the next Olympic Games.
What sport would you pursue from today? You gotta, I said,

(37:04):
you can start training this afternoon. Okay, what sport would
you pursue between now and the Los Angeles Games in
twenty twenty eight if you had to win Olympic gold.
I'll let you steal on that for a little bit.
We'll come to some of your arts after ten o'clock
this morning as well as that. Cannot wait for this
after ten o'clock this morning, we're going to sit down
with friend of the show, keyw comedian Tom Sainsbury. He's

(37:25):
had a really remarkable couple of years. He has incredible
comedy and impressions on Instagram. He's got a stand up routine.
He's and basically every single New Zealand comedy TV show
from like Wellington Paranormal through to Educators. But as well
as that, he has just produced and directed a really

(37:46):
interesting film, Loop Track, And as a result of that,
Tom has just been overseas in a very glamorous location
looking at the possibility of making the next great Kiwi film.
So he's going to be with us right after the
ten o'clock news and is this coming up to ten though,
I'm Jack Tame, It's Saturday morning. This is news Dog zedby.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
Start A cracking way to start your Saturday Saturday mornings
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Speaker 2 (39:05):
More in a Morning New Zealand. You were Jack Daime
on Newstogs EDB. Tom Sainsbury wears many hats, actor, writer, comedian, director,
host influenza Oh you'll hate me saying that across film
TV stage and social media. You might know him, of course,
for his political impersonations, or for shows like Wellington, paranormal

(39:26):
shows like Educators. And Tom is hosting a winter special
of New Zealand's International Comedy Festival and having just returned
from a very glamorous international Sojean, he's here with us
in Studio Calda. Good morning. Hi. It's so good to
see you always, and you've just returned from Monaco, So

(39:47):
ain't you don't look you don't need to just rub.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
It in, show off my gold. No, I fay. I
couldn't get into the main casino, So just.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Explain to us why you have been in Monaco, of
all places, because we liked on Saturday mornings. We liked,
you know, in the depths of winter, we like to
think about slightly more exotic warmer climbs.

Speaker 3 (40:06):
Yeah, well I was over there. Look, it's all feeling
like I'm flexing, but it's not. We we scraped and
saved and we went over to the can Film Festival
to pitch a new film back right right. And while
we were there, it was like there's a few kind
of days floating around, so like three days and we're like,
I was there randomly with some other friends that with you,
and we're like, let's go to Monico for the day
because I've been obsessed with I've been obsessed with micro

(40:27):
states from my entire life, like you know, microstates Luxembourg.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
Okay, of course.

Speaker 3 (40:33):
Yeah, and I still haven't been. I had the opportunity
to go to San Marino. I love Samarino. Yes, have
you been to San Marino?

Speaker 2 (40:40):
I haven't been to San Marina. I thought I cheered
them more on the Olympics.

Speaker 3 (40:43):
When you are going to San Marino, please reach out
and let me know and if if it can happen,
I'm joining you in San Marino. But anyway, we were
there and we so we spent that kind of a
day there. It's all you really need in Monico. We
were there the day before the Formula one race, so
that all set it up.

Speaker 2 (40:59):
So there was lots of kind of asked this is
sounding a bit like a flex You're at the canty,
you had a bit of downtime just before you headed
off to can't and wait.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Until you know that. I was invited into the palace
and I'm now friends, but no, I'm.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Not across the Yeah, my gosh, Okay, so what were
you impressions of Monaco?

Speaker 3 (41:22):
Then what is it?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
I because I think it looks awful from the outside.
It looks like too much money and not enough taste
or people who have. Maybe that's not fair, maybe that's
but you know what I mean, though it does seem
a bit it's showy. It's a showy place.

Speaker 3 (41:36):
It is a showy place, but it's also kind of
like there's an element of it where they don't want
to kind of be ghost so that the really wealthy
people don't kind of show. It's not like Vegas were
everything's kind of fleshy, fleshing lights and stuff like that.
It's almost it's more like implied wealth, right, which you
would relate to I do.

Speaker 2 (41:53):
I relate very closely, just like how do you imply wealth?

Speaker 17 (41:57):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (41:58):
Well, you know, well just the clothing is just pristine,
you know, pristine, but not showy, like perfectly it's.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
Like Taylor's Okay, It's like it's as though you're perfectly
tailored and it's been professionally launded. Is all of your
clothing has been professionally launded. That's a flex.

Speaker 3 (42:16):
That's a flex, and it's the you can you can
kind of.

Speaker 2 (42:19):
Someone's iron the sleeves as well as the main part
of the shirt.

Speaker 9 (42:23):
You got.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
It's fancy and if you were to have any kind
of blank it would be your cuff links.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
And that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
We're not a watch Oh no, yes, the watch I
feel like yeah, yeah, and they head watching watching watch
watch watch stores and the expense.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Were they crazy?

Speaker 7 (42:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:41):
Because you know, is it the partique Philip. That's the
one where they say, I only ever see these ads
when I'm like, you know, at an airport, and that's
something that's the post. It's the one. Yeah, yeah, that's
that's how they do it. They have the pose. But
that the tagline I think it is for the partic fleet.
They say, no one ever owns a partic for leet.
You merely look after it for the next generation.

Speaker 13 (43:00):
You see.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
You just don't get that with your Cassie. You don't
well you g shops, Yeah exactly, Okay, that sounds like
you would fit right, and you can kind of appreciate
that level of wealth, you mean, like fewer Lamborghinis, Ferraris
and stuff despite the Formula one.

Speaker 3 (43:14):
Yeah you got it.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
You didn't say around for the Formula one.

Speaker 3 (43:17):
I was thinking about. I was thinking about going for it,
but the que because I was staying in Nice, which
was a lot cheaper, just down the road. And it's
just down the road. But the next day, like the
cues to get onto the train to go the other side,
I don't have done for this, so I didn't do it.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
That's a flex. That's a flex. There, there's the real flex,
being able to say I'm here, I'm in Monaco at
the Grand Prixs on I'm not going to go yeah,
I know.

Speaker 10 (43:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
How did the pitching go? Are you allowed to tell us?

Speaker 9 (43:43):
Or?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Is it it kind of like these kind of things.
It's a beginning, you kind of meet these people and
then you've got to develop the relationship. And our pitch
went quite it went quite well, but it's all kind
of a shifting sands. No one wants to make the
first move. We've got people that are kind of interested,
but no one until something comes, you know, it all
has to lock into place.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
So how do you pitch it? How do you pitch
a film? Is it like shark?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Well, our specific thing what like most people don't. But
we were very kindly kind of hosted by the New
Zealand Film festival. They kind of.

Speaker 2 (44:16):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
They were like, do you have a genre piece? And
so there are seven random international film festivals around the
world and they all select filmmakers to pitch their next idea.
This is called the fant Fantastic Seven and you so
it's all from So we were pitching against like an
Egyptian film company at Lithuanian the best they were Lithuanians.

(44:39):
All the Lithuanians I know, and they would probably be.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
There eight yep, that's more than most people know.

Speaker 3 (44:44):
Are wonderfully eccentric. And these filmmakers their film was like
bonkers and they were bonkers and I love.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
And you were like, old, buy this film. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
And so you go into this environment and you have
to You've got five minutes, and so you turn into
a show you do okay. And the thing is, I've
just been doing months of comedy festival where you come
on you say joking it laughs. I tried jokes on
these Probably people couldn't understand my eggent. Someone was falling
asleep in the audience. Other people were kind of chatting
like it's that kind of environment.

Speaker 2 (45:14):
So basically you go in and they're treating you with
disdain from.

Speaker 3 (45:18):
The wed go and a very few laughs of Lithuanians
did laugh, of course, and also like I didn't. I
hadn't really considered how hot it would be. Like it's
the south of France in the middle of summer. I
was swearing. Thankfully, my shirt was kind of light, but
there was still you could still see the sweat.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
You could see it from the outside. Yeah, oh, that's
that's a punisher aide. There's nothing you can do about
that either, because it's the classic. It's like trying to
lower your heart rate. When you become aware of it.
The moment you're sweating, you say I need to stop sweating,
and it makes you sweat more. I used to have
that problem sometimes on television, and I would put paper
towels under markets.

Speaker 3 (45:55):
I've heard sanitry pets are also very good.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It's not dignified. Though you look around Monaco, no one's
that doesn't give away.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
The organize it so that they don't sweat. They're never
in a situation where it's too hot and it's not perfect.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
That's again another another like subtle indicator of wealth.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So so the Lithuanians are probably talking about you like
you're talking about the Lithuanians saying, oh they're quirkyes like eccentric,
really love their films really good.

Speaker 9 (46:18):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (46:18):
Yeah, when do you reckon, you'll find out you just
gotta We've got it.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Feels like the Breads are the most impressed by us,
and so it's it's kind of how do you you're
kind of pitching to people who will kind of represent
the film in that country, whatever the kind of country
you're you're pitching too. So we have to kind of
we have to get New Zealand on board now and
get all the funding here for them to trying to

(46:45):
jump on board. That's the vibe of ver Can.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I don't tell me anything you're not supposed to do,
but this is the film because Luke Trek was kind
of like there were comedic elements, but it wasn't strictly
a comedy, right, so when people said, oh my god,
Tom sains re maining his day, but like it wasn't
designed to be a laugh minute or anything. So, so
is this film what sort of genre would it?

Speaker 3 (47:04):
I would maybe it's some like I think it's really funny.
It's basically the kind of premise of it is like
a foreign extange student living with it like a New
Zealand dairy farming family in a micro state in a
micro state exactly. And I just love, like, I just
my whole obsession is the New Zealand character and how

(47:25):
New Zealanders behave, Like I've spent years thinking about it.
So it's all my kind of comedy. So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
So it's interesting because I'm sure people ask you this
when you're or you think about this when you're touring.
And I wondered, how your because so much of your
comedy relates to the New Zealand psyche and New Zealand
personalities and stuff, do you ever stress about how well
that translates to other countries and cultures?

Speaker 3 (47:51):
One hundred percent? In fact, it was only it was
only this year twenty twenty fours for some have performed
in Australia, going how am I going to be taken
in Australia.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
So the problem with Australia is that there are so
many keys as well, that's not the pro problem, but you.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Know, yeah, yeah, but I would do a shout out.
I'm like, who here's New Zealand. Who's in heavy gig
around that? And it was always about a quarter would
be Kiwi's and the rest would be Australians. And I
think I just think Britain, Australia and New Zealand are
so culturally similar, just product difference, but how we kind
of you know, and I'm speaking of the kind of

(48:25):
the white western kind of vibes. I think that that translates.
It's interesting. I did a video of the best video
I've ever done. It's got two and a half million views,
and it's just a stupid one of someone eating chips
but making like a real kind of performance on her life,
just like brushing their fingers and brushing their mouth and
getting rid of the crumbs and just doing it like
that and then repeating and repeating and just like just

(48:46):
pull yourself together, these people. But it's done so hugely
in America for some reason, and specifically with like African
American culture, and so it's like I've got all these
kind of African Americans kind of following me, and then
they kind of get the keys they know. And then
back in the day, I did this gag about a
woman like cutting her here and herself and she couldn't

(49:06):
quite get the levels.

Speaker 10 (49:07):
So just.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
And that got millions of views in South Africa. I
don't know what, Like who knows that there must be
hair comedy in South Africa?

Speaker 2 (49:16):
So I don't know it interesting, Yeah, I must have
been was likely concerned when you said you were talking
about white Western vibes. I'm going in this interview. Yes,
So if the Brits are may be interested when you're
pitching you can kind of they can kind of appreciate that, yes,
more than more than some other cultures or would necessarily
pick up on that human.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
One hundred percent, and probably Brits more than Australians that
we've kind of pitched the study because it's all about
comedy of manners and like passive aggression and not being
able to really communicate your feelings as you Seeland does
want to do and so and like the Australians haven't
really vibed with that. They don't really understand. They're like,
why are they babing like this? You don't get it?
But the Brits do?

Speaker 2 (49:56):
Can you distill? You pick up those quirks in our
national character? But do you you just add a movie
night and someone has a funny thing with chips and
you pick up on it. Like are you is it
a conscious thing or does it just they are?

Speaker 3 (50:12):
It's all a variety. I think the chips thing is observation. Yeah,
that's an observation.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
It's an observation, right. But so at some point you've I've.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
Seen someone going going to town eating chips.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
Yeah, and you've thought I can I can do that,
and that's funny.

Speaker 3 (50:28):
Or I'm more like mild irritation that sits sort of
like that, yeah, and it's just so stupid, Like who
am I to judge?

Speaker 2 (50:37):
But you must there must be a kind of like
is there are you you know? Are you conscious? Do
you go about the world thinking like with your eyes
wide open looking at everyone, going, oh my gosh, look
how they're reacting? Or is it Does it just kind
of happen by osmosis.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Osmosis a lot, But when you're kind of in the
zone of making regular or daily videos, you're kind of
attuned to it. So when something does come into your consciousness,
they're like, you put it away into the diary.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
It strikes me that you are just doing so much stuff,
or at the very least you have been evolved with
so much stuff over the last couple of years and
I mean, no one thinks anyone gets into comedy to
make gazillions of dollars. But do you are you in
a position where you're saying no to stuff? Do you
feel like you can say no to stuff?

Speaker 3 (51:26):
Emotionally? I don't think I can. I'm compliance and psychologically
it's really important to me co applying to people. I'm
being compliant, but I can. It would be a lot
of people if I did say no to things just
for scheduling and stuff, and I can. Financially I could. Yeah,
so financially I'm fine.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And but I mean even creatively, like, do you do
you feel like you can say?

Speaker 6 (51:48):
You know what?

Speaker 2 (51:48):
That's actually not right for me right now. I really
want to focus my attentions. Here are you doing. You're
making films, You're doing your comedy stuff, like, you're doing
stand up, you do stuff on social media. Plus you're
writing plays. You're like you're doing everything. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:02):
Yeah, yes, as complicated that. I should be a lot
more kind of savvy about that, and I should restrict.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
Myself, but not necessarily.

Speaker 7 (52:10):
I do.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Like most of the ideas I'm like, I'm really buzzing
with and then I get to say it, I'm like Oh,
I'm swamped and I have to say no to the
next project. And then someone pitches something to me. I'm like,
that is good.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Yeah, we're speaking. Even though we've had the comedy Festival
this year. I love this idea. Three nights right, Basically,
we're having a midwinter celebration. Yes, you've been roped in.
Just give us the details. What's the plan?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
So I'm hosting an I'm hosting an evening on the
twenty second of August down at the waterfront are the
ASP Look, I should know these details, but I fancy
theaters and the flags. I'm hosting the comedy Garlaite, so
there's a power. I think there's about ten comedians coming
in and I'm kind of hosting it and running it

(52:58):
in some great comedity like David Koreos. If you haven't
seen him, all know about him. He's a real bonker.
I think I can safely say bonkers.

Speaker 2 (53:07):
Yeah, that is a good thing. Yeah, and then Courtney.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
Dawson is also great, like she just so confident. But
there's a whole lot that Wilson Dixon Jack Can said
and things. And I'm going to be hosting it. So
I'm packing forth on the stage. But the amazing thing
about a lineup is all these amazing comedians and doing
like five or six minutes each and it's the best.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Of Oh that's great. Yeah, So it's like yeah, Yeahutely
it's kind of snackaball, yeah, but very funny, snackable.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Very funny and also like you're onto the next thing
before you even realize that.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Yeah, Dragh fantastic, also excited, and I just think it's
a great idea to have it in the middle of winters,
like a little beacon of light, metal of the darkness.
We're glad that we've stolen you back from Monaco for
the time being, although I'm sure you're fit in much
better over there. Thank you so much for your time,
Thank you for having me. That is Tom Satins Sturt.
All the details for that midwinter New Zealand Comedy Festival

(54:00):
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Speaker 1 (54:13):
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Speaker 2 (54:22):
It is twenty five minutes fast ten on news talks EDB.
If you were just turning on the radio or just
turning on iHeart this morning, you're just joining us. But
fourteen o'clock I posed a ridiculous question, just an utterly
absurd question. What would you do if you had to
win Olympic gold at the next Olympics? What sport would
you would you take up? We've got all sorts of answers. Jack.

(54:45):
If they had a new Olympic sport like tiddleywinks that
I might be in with a chance. No, that's not
going to work. Lee says that Lee did racewalking back
in the day. It says it's a really disciplined sport.
So Lee would back themselves in race walking. I reckon,
that's a real stretch lead, Pauline says Jack. The five
thousand meters, the five thousand meters in the athletics, the

(55:06):
men's race. I like long distance races at a high
school sports day. I still as much as I'm sure
you are a very athletic person, Pauline, I reckon, if
you have to win gold at the next Olympics. I mean,
it's basically an impossible question, right, I'm not sure that
there's necessarily a correct answer. I'm intrigued to see if
anyone can come up with a good argument for any sport. Dressage. Nah,

(55:27):
I reckon, that's one of the sports that is just
way more complicated than those of us who don't properly
understand a questrian can ever appreciate. That would be my
perspective on that. But anyway, let me know your thoughts.
It's time to catch you up with our screen Time
expert Tara Award for this week's screen Time picks TV
shows to watch and stream at home. Hey Tara, good morning.
What would you do.

Speaker 9 (55:50):
You?

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I mean, the five thousand means Pauline is I mean,
I am my Pauline's optimism, but I'm not sure she's
going to be able to pull that one off. What
would you do?

Speaker 18 (55:58):
I think it would have to be something where I'm
sitting down, Yeah, possibly maybe rowing or canoeing.

Speaker 12 (56:05):
Maybe.

Speaker 16 (56:06):
I think if you're sitting down you can just already wedding.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
I think you've got to look at the sports where
don't take this the wrong way. We're at letis system.
There's less of an issue, and I just like, I
wonder if there's like a one of like an ear
pistol or something.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
Yeah, if you had five four and a half years
of absolutely dedicating every waking moment to getting awesome with
the ear pistol, could you compete in an Olympic level?
I don't know what the answer is to that, but
you could do ten thousand now, Yeah, anyway, anyway to
the world. Yeah, lots of text going and so I'll
get to those in a couple of minutes. Talk us
through this week's shows. Let's begin with the show streaming
on Apple TV plus tell Us about Lady in the Lake.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (56:45):
This is a new thriller and it stars Natalie Portman.
This is her first small screen role. It's based on
a best selling novel set in nineteen sixties Baltimore, and
it's about two women whose paths cross in a in
a tragic, unexpected way. And Natalie Portman's character, Maddie is
a white Jewish housewife and Moses and Grimm plays at Cleo,
who's a black lower class and working three jobs to

(57:08):
get ahead, and when a local girl goes missing, Maddie
becomes determined to find.

Speaker 13 (57:12):
The killer, and that's how she's connected to Cleo.

Speaker 18 (57:15):
So you've got this murder mystery, but it's set in
a particular period of American history, during the Civil Rights movement,
during a lot of political upheaval, which gives the show
a bit more weight than your average murder mystery. And
this is not a fast paced thriller. It's not frenetic.
It's more moody and atmospheric and slow and heavy, very
stylish as well. The whole nineteen sixties vibe is captured beautifully.

(57:38):
But this is a who Done It? Where you take
your time with it. That the first episode takes a
lot of time to set this world up and get
to know all the different characters, and then it's going
to dive right and try and solve these murders. So
the pace is quite slow, and I think it will
be quite a rewarding watch, but you'll just need to
have the patience to stick with it.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Yeah, Okay, Cool Lady in the Lake that's on Apple
TV Plus on Netflix, Supercell.

Speaker 18 (58:02):
Yeah, this is a really fresh, energetic news series that's
been on net for a few weeks now and it's
still sitting in the ten and it's a superhero drama,
but not in the way that you might know superhero dramas.
This is not a Marvel type series. This is gritty
and urban and feels very real in a way that
a lot of superhero dramas don't. It's set in South
London and it's about five young black strangers who suddenly

(58:25):
develop superpowers. They come from nowhere. There's no obvious connection
between the five people. They can't choose their powers, and
they don't necessarily want to have them, but they realize
that they need to team up and work together to
protect themselves. And so it's science fiction, but as I said,
it feels very real. It's a story about life in
South London on the estate as much as it is

(58:46):
a story about superheroes, and kind of reminded me of
a mix of shows like Top Boy in Misfits. Great
soundtrack as well and very bingeable. If you want something
fast paced and entertaining, this would be a great weekend watch.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Nice and also on Netflix tell us about Secret World
of Sound with David Attenborough.

Speaker 18 (59:05):
I know Looksvid atten Braugh. He's ninety eight and is
still making television. And this is a new documentary series
that landed on Netflix this week, and it's all about
the wonder of sound and because of the developments and technology,
we can now pick up a lot of animal sounds
and interactions that would not usually be heard by the
human ear alone. And so this documentary celebrates all the

(59:28):
weird clicks and buzzes and rows of the universe and
shows us how the animals use those sound to their
advantage and how they use them to survive. And I mean,
I don't think you can ever go wrong with a
David Attenborough documentary. This has stunning photography, the storytelling is
always so compelling, and you've got some sounds that you
will have never heard before. So yeah, it's a winner.

Speaker 2 (59:49):
Awesome. Yeah, I can't wait to see that. Thank you
so much, Tara. So that Secret World of Sound with
David Attenber it's on Netflix, Supercell, that one in South London,
the drama that's also on Netflix, and the one with
Natalie Portman that's Lady in the Lake and that's streaming
on Apple TV Plus.

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(01:01:24):
Beautifully Ordinary, is out now after eleven o'clock this morning,
we're gonna have a bit more of a listen to
that album, because yeah, it should be really should be
really interesting. Tones and I is her name, She's like
a solo artist. But I think her name her real
name is Tony I think yeah. Anyway, she's from Melbourne.
But we'll have a bit of a listen after eleven
o'clock this morning and see if her new music is

(01:01:45):
as catchy as Dance Monkey has proved to be. Thank
you very much for all your feedback. Gosh, we've had
heaps of texts regarding regarding the Olympic sport that you're pursued.
The problem is, it's almost impossible to answer this question
without sounding like an ebisoute idiot, isn't it. So what
would you do if you had to win a gold
medal in the next Olympics? What sport would you take
up between now and then? And you can dedicate every

(01:02:07):
waking minute to practicing that sport, but you've got to
win a goal at the next Olympics. So what would
you do? Jack? I would lose forty kg's and be
a Coxon in the eight I reckon that that's not
the stupidest suggestion, although again I just know that the
Coxins and like really keen rowers around the country are
going to be rolling our eyes saying, come on, there's
way more to it. Than you actually think, Jack, I

(01:02:28):
would choose one of the shooting classes cardiovascular fitness and
a six pack wouldn't be essential. Concentration, eyesight, hand eye
coordination may give me an outside chance, says John. Thanks John, Yeah,
I reckon, I reckon. A shooting class is pretty good. Anyway,
let me know what your suggestion is. I'm going to
tell you my pick if I had to win gold

(01:02:49):
at the next Olympics very soon, it doesn't involve getting
a six pack. You'll be pleased to know. Although my
wife may not twenty four to eleven on newsbooks, he'd be.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Putting the tough questions to the newspeakers the mic asking.

Speaker 15 (01:03:03):
Breakfast, did you minister Suman Browns will us? When will
we know that?

Speaker 10 (01:03:05):
L and G.

Speaker 20 (01:03:06):
Well, we've got a piece of work underway at the
moment around that, but there's some pretty key decisions that
need to be made.

Speaker 15 (01:03:11):
What about it? And I know what the power companies
will say, especially the gent Taylors. When Onslow was on
the scene, they didn't see the need to invest in
any more capacity. Is that a fair argument or not?

Speaker 20 (01:03:20):
Well, there was an absolutely fair argument at the time,
but we've taken that off the table. We've made it
very clear that we're not going to be building a
big mess of onslow. But at the same time we
need to see these guys investing.

Speaker 15 (01:03:31):
Why would they they're making money like us know tomorrow.

Speaker 20 (01:03:34):
Well, ultimately that's why we also need to make it
easy for other people to enter the market too, and
that's what Fastrack's all about.

Speaker 15 (01:03:39):
Back Monday from six am, the mic asking break off
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Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Twenty one to ten eleven over at twenty one to
eleven on newstalk EDB. Fiona has messaged me Jack, you're lean.
I could see you doing the war climb or the bouldering.
Thanks Fiona, I appreciate that. The problem is you also
need to be strong.

Speaker 6 (01:03:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I'm not convinced I'll be able to make the Olympics
in that sport, but no, that's a good suggestion. Thank
you very much. Time to get up with our teach expert,
Paul Stenhouse. It's been a massive week for Google, Paul.
We'll get to that in a minute. But what what
would be your pick for the next game? I mean,
is it walking? You would be a good walker, especially
well here, especially because in New York everyone walks really quickly, right,

(01:04:23):
they walk with purpose, except the tourists who all like
linger on the on the sidewalks. But yeah, you could,
you could walk really quickly. I could see you're doing
quite well on that, actually, Paul, Yeah, very good. Okay,
that's that's that's no sillier answer. Yeah, that's no sillier
an answer than than anything else we've collectively thought of
this morning.

Speaker 21 (01:04:43):
Archery does make sense.

Speaker 22 (01:04:44):
I like archery or shooting.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
That's it's a you know, have you seen the size
of the archery course.

Speaker 4 (01:04:51):
Archery?

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
It's impossible, but it's unbelievable how good they are, like
it is? Yeah, yeah, with four years. Yeah, I'm not
sure anyway. Hey, yeah, big week for Google. So Google
Chrome Cast is being discontinued.

Speaker 21 (01:05:06):
Yeah, so's They've sold more than one hundred million of
these units and it's been around for eleven years. But
Google's decided that it's it's not the next big thing,
or it's not the thing that's going to take them
into the future. So the Crome cast is being stopped,
but it is being replaced by the Google TV streamer.
So this is a device that actually sits sort of
more on your entertainment unit. The Google Chrome Cast was

(01:05:29):
sort of tucked was a really tiny device that was
sort of tucked in the back of your TV. Was
absolutely groundbreaking when it launched eleven years ago. It still
is really like, it's a pretty it's a really great
entry level device into the streaming market.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
But Google says things have changed and they have.

Speaker 21 (01:05:45):
Google Chrome Cast type technology is now built into smart TVs.
Smart TV's obviously have streaming apps and things like that.
There isn't the same need, so they're trying to work
out what's what's next for that kind of Google TV experience,
and it's apparently this thing that sits on your entertainment
unit that has a couple of extra features too. Jackets
also a fully featured smart speaker, so you can talk

(01:06:06):
to it like it's got your Google Assistant built into
it as well, and Google also wants it to sort
of be like one of the portals for your smart home.
So it scares all these different extra kind of connectivity
things that they never could have fit into that tiny
dongle that allows you to do things like connect to
your Nest, which is owned by Google, then your Nest

(01:06:28):
Smart Video cameras, security cameras, things like that, you're smart thermostat,
you know, smoke alarms, all that type of thing. So
it really wants to kind of make Yeah, they want
this to kind of be almost like your home screen
of your TV, if you will. Yeah, and then from
that you then bounce out to the different things. But
it's look, it's and of course it would it be

(01:06:48):
twenty twenty four without having AI included to Google's Gemini
is going to be embedded into this thing, and Gemini
is going to be providing things like TV recommendations for
you and letting you use your voice to help navigate
the application. So as soon as you throw to it,
AI in little bit of computing power.

Speaker 2 (01:07:08):
And so I think that's why they have thought, right.

Speaker 21 (01:07:10):
We need to take this next step.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
I mean it does sound like a like a reasonable
next step, right. It's not like they're ditching current Google
crime Cast users.

Speaker 21 (01:07:19):
No, And look, they're still going to be available so
by yeah, while you can, and they're still going to
support them for some time. But I think the shame
with it is that it was just such a really
easy way to make a dumb TV smart if you will,
and like really great for second bedrooms and second homes and.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Things like that, TV at the batch, all that kind
of thing.

Speaker 16 (01:07:36):
Totally.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
Yeah, yeah, that's a very good point. Hey, texs Paul.
We'll let you get to training and we will catch
up with you again very soon. That is Paul Stenhouse.
After eleven o'clock this morning, we're going to catch up
with clinical psychologists Google Sutherland. You know how they always
talk about younger workers like millennials and Gen zs in
workplaces being really technologically capable. Sure, there might be some

(01:07:57):
downside to some younger workers, but they always talking about
them being quite agile in the digital space, and often
that can come at the expense of old workers. But
Google wants to talk about talk to us this morning
about a new study which shows some of the surprising
benefits of having slightly older workers in an organization. So
he's going to be with us very shortly to talk

(01:08:18):
us through that. Right now, it's sixteen to eleven.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
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Then with Jack Saturday Mornings with Jack Tam and Bepewart
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Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
Used Talk ZEDB fourteen minutes two eleven on News Talk
z'b Jack, I'd lose thirty years and join the women's
beach Volleyball. Not that losing thirty years is going to
be too easy or the joining the women's beach volleyball,
but good on you the time to catch up with
our master of Wine, Bob Campbell for his best buy
this week, and he's chosen a smith and Chief cru
Central Otago twenty twenty two pen on whaf for fifty

(01:08:51):
dollars to Bob, why did you choose it?

Speaker 10 (01:08:54):
Coury Jack? While I was recently asked to recommend a
special wine that a couple could use to toast them
as yet unborn baby, the brief was that the wine
should be able to be enjoyed in around five years.
That's about as long as they could wait, and should
survive less than perfect storage. My budget was up to

(01:09:19):
one hundred dollars, so they're quite serious about this. And
I chose the smith and Chef Peano and I because
it's the sort of wine that could be enjoyed by
a wide range of people and not just wine enthusiasts.
It's a it's an absolute cracker of a wine, and
you could you don't have to wait, wait for the

(01:09:39):
penning birth of a baby. You can create create all
sorts of reasons to open a special bottle in about
five years. So I thought the listeners might be interested.

Speaker 2 (01:09:51):
And so it's stealed with a screw crap with a
screw cat which will help it to run the distance,
especially if it's not in perfect storage. What does it
taste like?

Speaker 10 (01:10:02):
It's a very perfumed I think it's fund its seductive,
floral sort of black cherry, vanilla, darkberry, just so drinkable.
Just one of those wines that begs to be, you know,
for another glass to be poured. It's made with a

(01:10:23):
light touch. The wine's got a real silk and almost
etherial texture.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Right, Oh that sounds beautiful. Urck in fifty dollars is
good value for this one. Obviously there's a lot of
money for a lot of people.

Speaker 10 (01:10:34):
But this is special, yes, yeah it is, yes, yes,
not an everyday wine, that's for sure, not in my book.
I'm sure there are people who can drink wines of
the stature every day. But yeah, yeah, it's just to
give pressure on an important occasion. What it's all about?

(01:10:55):
And so we can you buy Bob Well it's it's
only recently released, and I had a little bit of
trouble finding it. So I went to the sauce smiff
and she Steve Smith is a Kiwi master of wine
and a good friend of mine. I rang him up,
said where can I get it? And he said it's

(01:11:16):
it's the best thing is to go online Smithandschef dot com,
right and and.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
And he said, that's that's supposed to go.

Speaker 10 (01:11:31):
Yeah, forty dollars, but that's sorry, fifty dollars. But if
you if you choose to join the Smith and Chef
Wine Club, you get ten dollars off. So that's forty dollars,
which I think it's a heckul of wife for forty bocks.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
And when that special occasion or the anniversary rolls around,
what would you match it with?

Speaker 10 (01:11:52):
Well, the classic with Pino noire is is Duck com
c And so that's the sort of established perfect Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:04):
And like you say, it'll it'll last at least five years.
What about with good storage?

Speaker 10 (01:12:10):
Yeah, good storage ten?

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
No, ye're nice? Yeah, longer, yeah, even more.

Speaker 10 (01:12:14):
Actually, you have to be a little bit conservative because
you're never absolutely sure it's going to be looked after.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
No that makes a lot of sense. Thanks Bob. That's
Master of Wine Bob Campbell. Who's picked this week is
a smith and chef CiU central Otago Pino Noir from
twenty twenty two for fifty dollars. All right, what would
I pick if I had to win gold in the
next Olympics. Keeping in mind that there really is no
right answer, I think we can all agree on that
I would choose a sailing class. I reckon I would

(01:12:43):
go for the men's dinghy or maybe the mixed class
as well. I would go for one of those. I
would just throw myself into training out on the Hodaker
golf every single day for the next three and a
half years to try and qualify. I reckon that would
be my best chance. I'm not saying I really have
a chance, but I reckon that would be my best chance.
Let us know your thoughts. Ninety two ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
Two Gardening with still sharp free accessories this winter, still shore.

Speaker 2 (01:13:07):
Climb past our man in the garden, good morning.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Good morning. Anything new from from the Jack Tame Garden
at the moment, no, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:13:15):
So, I just you know what I'm trying. I'm waiting
to see at the moment. I think I told you
about this. I had a bit of a disaster with
some hedging that I put in last year. I remember
I didn't I didn't water it right in the middle
of summer because I thought it was all good, and
then it turned out that it wasn't all good. Like
the half of the hedge kind of died. And I'm
basically waiting to see if it's gonna survive. I still

(01:13:35):
don't know. It's my point, and I wondered if some
at some point soon I feel like it's alive. But
at some point soon, should I be expecting all the
leaves are gone? Should I Should I be expecting to
see some buds and some new leaves.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Depends on if its name is Lazarus.

Speaker 2 (01:13:50):
Okay, I can't remember if its name is Lazarus, but
I'm not sure. If it's I'm not sure if it
has Lazarus's qualities necessarily.

Speaker 4 (01:14:01):
That's the point. Yeah, oh yeah, here's a good trick.
If you got a little I call it the sharp hank,
But I've got a pocket knife from my pocket, And
if you give a little scrape over the back and
under the bark, you'll see green material.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
Yes, it is still alive, and if you don't.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
If you don't, you'll have to go back to mister
and missus old Rings or Bombers or whoever and get
some more and try to get the same material if
you like the same species, the same variety.

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Is it possible that like that the outer branches will
be gone, but the inner branches will be Okay, yeah, yeah,
I think that might.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
You do with a couple just a slight scratch and
you can see it in its green.

Speaker 2 (01:14:41):
You know, there's hope, man, I'm just hoping. Yeah. Anyway,
we're talking about this morning that most people have never
even heard of.

Speaker 4 (01:14:49):
Had you heard of colembola?

Speaker 2 (01:14:51):
No? No, but apparently I hadn't heard of watering my
my new bushes in the middle of summer either, So.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
You go there, you go.

Speaker 4 (01:14:58):
Well, Coleembola, I actually springtails. They are known as springtails,
and they are I just realized they actually because I've
got heaps of the middle garden at the moment. They
are absolutely unbelievably important for our gardens because their job,
literally their ecosystem service, is to recycle dead material. That's

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what they do. We've got six thousand species on the planet,
but nobody knows. It could be forty thousand different Texa.
God knows. That's the point. Yeah, and coleombola comes from one.
I like that word colomb cola first one, which is
glue cola. And an embolon is a peg or a piston,

(01:15:41):
because most of the Glenbla have got a little piston
on the underside of their body with which they can jump,
which is why they called springtails. But anyway, these things
you find literally in your garden, in the compost, under
the plants that are actually as you think, as you
might think are dying at the moment in your heads.
For instance, they are the ones that literally recycle everything

(01:16:03):
and put it back into NPK for the future. Now,
there are some seriously called species, and I photographed them
and sent them on to Libby to put on the website.
There are some things that you find in your like
I've got this lovely red rhubarb and this columbola working
on that. They're white, crazy crazy stuff. There are a

(01:16:23):
little columbola that I find with my granddaughter in Rangatawan, Oakuni,
and she loves those little tiny things. They're quite nice.
They are about three or four millimeters in size and
they've got these weird little things sticking out of their
skulls and all that than their skins everywhere. But the
best thing at this time of the year for anybody

(01:16:45):
wants to have a look if it's rained, have a
look at puddles. There is a deep blue species that
rafts or a drifts on puddles and it moves around.
And I'm not talking about one or two. I'm talking
millions in probably a square foot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
Wow, that's extraordinary. Hey, thank you very much, Beau. Yeah,
that's incredible. Hey, thank you so much. Rude, and thank
you for you are reassuring words. As always, I'm not
sure my magnolias will Rude climb past in the garden
after leaven o'clock. That's mooning. New music for you from
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Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Ah, I got you know you sometimes see those you
see those images on like a British TV crime show
when there's some criminal who's committed a crime in London
and it goes to the head of the Metropolitan Police
and they have like one thousand TV screens all lined
up in a room as they're looking at the CCTV pictures.

(01:18:25):
I feel like that's going to be me tonight and
about like seven hours time, that is going to be
me at home this evening because it is a ridiculous
sporting weekend. We have kicking off at about six pm
tonight the men's marathon at the Olympics, and then the
rest of the Olympic action follows closely thereafter. Of course
you've got the All Blacks kicking off just after seven

(01:18:46):
o'clock and Wellington against Los Pumas. It's so complicated, there's
such an embarrassment of riches that when it comes to
the commentary on Newstalk ZB and gold Sport this evening
they've had to do a special thing whereby you've got
the All Blacks commentary that's going to be king off
before seven o'clock. But then Amy Fisher and Lisa Carrington
are going to be competing in the K one five
hundred semi finals in order to qualify for the finals,

(01:19:09):
so that's going to go on to Gold Sport Extra,
the commentary that's going to be on Gold Sport Extra,
and then after the rugby finishes at nine pm they're
going to resume normal broadcasting and commentary for the Olympics.
So that's when you have Lydia Coe teeing off in
number one position for the final round of the women's golf.
I've got Elise Andrews back on the track as well
as various other members of the track cycling team going

(01:19:31):
through all the way to the early hours of tomorrow morning.
Of course David Lytty, Hamish Kerr in action as well.
So yeah, it is going to be an amazing twenty
four hours or so of sport. We will catch up
with Jason Pine, who has been completely devoting his entire
life to these Olympic Games very shortly as he prepares
for a massive weekend sport this afternoon. Right now though

(01:19:54):
it's nine minutes past eleven, Jack team and clinical psychologist
Doogle Sutherland from Umbrella Well Being as well us Hey Google.

Speaker 7 (01:20:02):
Hey Jack, how's it going.

Speaker 9 (01:20:04):
I must say I'm a little bit concerned about you
screen habits and about how many screens you're going to
be watching.

Speaker 5 (01:20:10):
The damage that might be doing to your attention.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
I know this is the problem because there are only
I was debating this with Darcy Waldergrave this morning. There
are some sports that I feel you can you can
watch simultaneously, and some that you can't. And the men's
marathon is a good example of a sport that you
can I think, have on while watching other things at
the same time. So you can have the rugby on
one screen and then you can have the marathon on

(01:20:32):
another screen. And I reckon that's the that's the way
to go. But there are other there are other sports
that don't lend themselves quite so well to watching at
the same time. Like if you're trying to watch the
one hundred meters relay and watch the rugby at the
same time, that's that's going to be tricky, you know.

Speaker 9 (01:20:48):
Yeah, nothing fast is going to happen in the marathon, really, no, No,
In about ten minutes somebody might overtake somebody else that
we'll have a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
Yeah, exactly. Well for the last you know, the last
k maybe you focus on the marathon, you know, and
you give place attention to it or something. Anyway, it's
only for this weekend, I promised Google, you know, but
this time next week, I'm going to be right back
to just just normal screen kind of normal screen time. Anyway,
this morning, we want to talk about older employees because

(01:21:16):
you've got a fascinating bit of research looking at some
of the benefits of having slightly older employees in a workplace.
And we talk about, you know, some of the generational
differences in workplaces these days, and the different things that
people from different generations typically bring. And often we think
of young employees as being digital natives, so having really
developed digital skills that perhaps older employees don't necessarily automatically have,

(01:21:41):
but actually there are some real benefits.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
Eh.

Speaker 9 (01:21:44):
Yeah, No, it's when you talk about sort of people.
When we say older, let's be clear, we're talking about,
you know, people in the over forty five bracket.

Speaker 5 (01:21:52):
So anyone to get ancient.

Speaker 9 (01:21:57):
But yeah, I think it often conjures up sort of
images of people kind of staring at the screen, you know,
over the top of their glasses and stabbing at it
with their finger and not really knowing how this thing works,
while younger people are kind of you know, their hands
are flying and they've got several different screens on at once.
But this new reset showed that actually, people over the

(01:22:17):
age of forty five tended to be much more effective
in using technology at home and about setting really good
limits and boundaries around working from home, which which was
better for their overall well being and productivity. So it
was it was like, oh, many maybe people that are
over forty five.

Speaker 2 (01:22:37):
Can do things, okay, so that's interesting, So what are
the what are the benefits of actually setting those boundaries.

Speaker 9 (01:22:43):
Look, well, what this research showed was firstly that you
had fewer unfinished tasks, so actually they got more things completed,
which is and you know what that's like. If you
don't finish a task, it sort of hangs over you
like a like a sort of a small sort of
dagger waiting to force I've.

Speaker 10 (01:23:00):
Just got to finish that.

Speaker 9 (01:23:01):
So there's fewer of those. They had a better work
life balance, so they know reported saying, yeah, I think
my life there is actually you know, I can do
I can do my work, but I can I can
do my recreation, do my play, do whatever I want
to do. And they were more productive as well, which
and from a business perspective, that's always you know, that's
always important. There's always those concerns. I think still lingering

(01:23:25):
around that, Oh maybe when people are at home, maybe
they're not as productive, maybe they're just sitting around watching TV. Certainly,
this study showed that actually there's people over forty five
were more productive than younger Cohort.

Speaker 2 (01:23:36):
Yeah, that is just that's really interesting. Do you think
there's like an attitude thing or do you think that
comes down to the to the work practices that they've introduced.

Speaker 9 (01:23:45):
Well, well, look a bit of both. I mean you
touched on it earlier when you talked about digital natives
and digital migrants, And in some ways, I think if
you haven't grown up with technology, perhaps it's not quite
as fused together in your world as it is if
you were a digital native. So it's like, oh no,
you do make a distinction in your head between work

(01:24:08):
and play, and it's not all sort of melded together.
And I think that's probably helpful some of the research, though,
some of the things I really like the practical things
out of this research was one of the things was
older people are better about having a routine for their
work and getting dressed for work. And it reminded me
of somebody I was talking to who'd been doing this

(01:24:30):
for a while and they said, Look, what they do
is they get up in the morning, they get dressed
for work, so that you know, they get dressed as
if they're going into the office, and they have breakfast,
et cetera. They leave the front door, walk out the
front door, they walk down to the bus stop, they
walk back from the bus stop into the front door
again and go, yes, here I am at work. And

(01:24:50):
then they do the whole reverse at the end of
the day though from the door they walk down to
the bus stop and there's all the good things about
you know, getting out in the fresh air and et.
They come back and their home and then they get
changed out of their work clothes into their home clothes
sort of artist.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
No, no, I totally I'm into this. I think this
is really significant. Keep going.

Speaker 9 (01:25:12):
Yeah, it's a really nice little routine that that just
because I think one of the difficulties when you're working
from home is making that mental break, you know, from work,
and so doing some having that small routine I think
can be really helpful about giving your brain the message
we are no longer at work, we are at home.

Speaker 6 (01:25:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:25:34):
And the other thing that was useful I thought too
was the real when it's possible having a work space
that you can kind of in your in your home,
that you can clearly mark out as for work, and
then when you've finished work, you put it. You pack
that away, you know, you put if you've got your
laptop or whatever, you pack that away. If you've got
pen and paper or whatever you're doing, you physically pack

(01:25:56):
that away, and that space is no longer work. So
it mentally gets that reminder away from you, so you're
not reminded of.

Speaker 2 (01:26:04):
Work all the time.

Speaker 9 (01:26:06):
And there are clever ways around us. I was talking
to at a workshop. I was talking to a teacher
about this and they said, oh, yeah, what I do
is I try to put a limit around my work.
I take my laptop home for the weekend, but I
don't take my cord with me, my recharge accord, so
I know I've only got about three hours work because
then the battery is going to run out. I thought

(01:26:26):
that was a really clever way of imposing some limits
and some boundaries around that working from home space.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Yeah, that's interesting, just being able to distinguish between those
kind of mindsets A Actually it's quite significant for you well,
being like to be able to say this is work time,
I'm focused on this. Yeah, I'm going to be as
productive as possible. And now this isn't work time and
turning into a binary thing because I'm the absolute opposite.
Like my work kind of just leads into my existence,
you know, and I'm not sure that it's necessarily the

(01:26:54):
best for me or for my work.

Speaker 5 (01:26:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
No.

Speaker 9 (01:26:58):
When we sometimes talk about segregationalists versus integrationalists, and segregationalists
to those people that can segregate work and home and
integrationists are those that can sort of do a bit
then and there. And I think it's really important to
say that having some level of choice and control over
that is really important. Like I know, for some people

(01:27:20):
they finish work at three o'clock, they pick up the kids,
and they cook dinner and do everything that you need
to do, and then they sit down again about half
past seven and do another hour or two of work. Now,
if they're in control of that, then that's probably an
even better thing because they're able to say, Okay, I
can stop now on now at home, now I'm picking
work back up again. So you don't have to be

(01:27:42):
completely black and white about it, but the ability to
separate it in your head and having your level of
control over that yourself is really key.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Yeah, hey, very good, Thank you so much. Doogle really
appreciate it as always. Google Sutherland from Humbrella Well Being Travel.

Speaker 1 (01:27:57):
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Speaker 2 (01:28:01):
The world and Mike Hardley is our travel correspondent. He's
with us this morning.

Speaker 7 (01:28:07):
Good morning, Jack, does plane spotting qualifiers in Olympic sports?

Speaker 2 (01:28:11):
Well, have you seen the breakdancing this morning?

Speaker 7 (01:28:14):
I've seen a bit of it. It's extraordinary.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
Yeah, I'm I'm not just I'm not disputing that they're
really talented, but I'm also convinced about the breakdancing just yet.
And I wonder if breakdancing is a sport then hey,
plane spotting in years to come gain it? You know
why not?

Speaker 10 (01:28:34):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (01:28:34):
You know?

Speaker 7 (01:28:34):
Yeah, I've been watching a Singaporey Lines plane which it's
been circling around christ Church for the last two hours.
Can you imagine how mind combing that must be for
the passengers? Yeah, they must have I know, they must
have a lot of fuel on board. There's been major
fold problems, that's que achieve so right, desperate to get

(01:28:57):
this plane in and I mean obviously ultimately they'd have
to pull the pin and go to walkland if the
fold doesn't clear.

Speaker 2 (01:29:04):
But yeah, oh that's frustrating. Can they land and Wellington
those big jumbos.

Speaker 7 (01:29:09):
This plane can't not too big?

Speaker 9 (01:29:11):
Right? Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:29:13):
It's currently the most watched flight in the world on
flight Radar twenty four, so I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
The only trade tokay. Yeah, very good. Ah, look the
plane's botting nerds unite. Great well, speaking speaking of dramatic
trips and experiences, this morning, you are venturing to Valletta, right,
that's how we say Valletta in Malta. Yeah, and so
along with the capital city, I mean, Malta is one
of the most fortified countries in the world.

Speaker 7 (01:29:42):
Right, astonishing, You would not want to take them on jack.
There are just fortifications everywhere. They guarded cities, coastlines, harbors.
It's the most striking first impression of Malta when you
go overre and those structures. They have been successively built
and rebuilt over three thousand years. Yeah, and I think

(01:30:06):
it all serves as a reminder that this strategic position
in the med has been such a coveted target for
so many powers over the Centris. But you do feel
like you're walking into a movie set in Malta.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
Yeah, yeah, what is so distinctive about the letter?

Speaker 7 (01:30:23):
It is such a jewel of a city, Jack, and
I think it's once again the location because it sort
of is perched on top of this very narrow peninsula
above what they call the Grand Harbor. It's the deepest
natural harbor in the Mediterranean. It's been in use since
the Phoenetian era, and the city itself has been so

(01:30:44):
beautifully preserved. So you wander these cobbled streets, and the
sweet reward at the end of virtually every street in
the Letta is a soul flipping view of the sea.
You've got that sapphire blue of the mead contrasting with
the golden butterscotch of the city's limestone buildings. It really
is amazing, and the city has got a grid street

(01:31:06):
passage of these elegant tan houses. Best of all architecturally,
the money shot are the Maltese balconies. There are thousands
of them, and they've all been fully enclosed, brightly painted
wooden balconies with glass windows, and they jut off the
side of every floor of every townhouse and the letters,
so that will fill your.

Speaker 2 (01:31:27):
Gram Oh awesome, So tell us about Fort Saint Elmo.

Speaker 7 (01:31:31):
Yes, now, this fort played a huge role in the
defeat of the Ottomans when they tried to conquer Malta.
So the Knights of Saint John, they said, the Ottomans packing.
But the National War Museum is at Fort Saint Elmo's
today and it does such a good job of whizzing
you through Malta's battle history. The funny thing about the
Knights is they became very corrupt and fell out of

(01:31:53):
public favor. So Napoleon Bonaparte, God bless him, sniffed an
opportunity and seized control of Malta for a while. But
then his troops started looting the treasures from the churches.
So the locals appeal to the British for help, and
the Brits center the French packing. So there's been this
just incredible sequence of conquest on Malta. Best of all,

(01:32:16):
they played a huge role as the Mediterranean base for
the Allies during World War II, and it's that aspect
of their history that is brilliantly showcased at the museum
that even got President Roosevelt's jeep at the museum in Valletta. So, yes,
some really cool stuff to check out.

Speaker 2 (01:32:36):
Very good. Yeah, that's quirky. What draws the crowds to
Saint John's Cathedral?

Speaker 7 (01:32:41):
Well, this is a very showing treasure and it's the
final resting place for hundreds of nights of Saint John.
They're all laid to rest beneath the marble slabs of
the floor. That every pillar, jack, every rib of that
church is just encrusted with gold. It's quite ridiculous. The
biggest draw of all Cardivaggio's only signed painting, his dramatic masterpiece,

(01:33:05):
the Beheading of John the Baptist. It's the largest of
all of his paintings. And the amazing thing is it
hangs inside the church, above the very spot where the
artist himself was stripped of his knighthood after he decked
a higher ranked night. Apparently Count Evaggio was as mad
as a cut snake. But yeah, all over the Leta,

(01:33:28):
the place just is drenched with history.

Speaker 2 (01:33:31):
Yeah, oh, this is amazing. So that's not food, our
favorite subject always the cafe scene and street food. What's
it like?

Speaker 7 (01:33:39):
Yeah, well, on the go, I would be sure to
get your teeth into forterra. It's what the locals bingon
faterra is this flattened sourdough bread typically stuffed with tomato paste, tuna, capers, onion, olives,
and pepper, goat cheese, and people just munch those all
over the city. Really good. I'm a walkover for old

(01:34:01):
school coffee shops. And there was this amazing cafe called
Cordina in Valletta. It's been going for about two hundred years.
They are toasted for terras are really good, by the way,
But if you want some sweet treats, go to Cafe
Cordina for their date frisses. So these are deep fried
wine based dough filled with sweet dates, very sort of

(01:34:22):
Arabic sweet dates, and then served with ice cream.

Speaker 6 (01:34:25):
They are so good.

Speaker 7 (01:34:27):
But beast of all Jack and Cafe Cordina a slice
of Diplomatica. It's a rum soap sponge with marsipan and
hazelnut cream housed between layers of puff pastry and the
top of with icing sugar. Thank me for that later.

Speaker 2 (01:34:43):
Oh yeah, that sounds incredible. And what about the signature dishes?

Speaker 7 (01:34:47):
Yes, three very quick mentions. Maltese blistered octopus. Now they
take the octopus and they cook it in garlic with
a tomato, olive and caper composition. Fabulous for the intrepid rabbit.
Stew is the national dish of molten and hot on
the heels of their traditional horse meats too, and a

(01:35:09):
red wine and time gravy. Jack. I have a confession.
I thought I was notching on the rabbit. It turned
out to be the horse.

Speaker 2 (01:35:16):
To wow.

Speaker 7 (01:35:17):
It was admittedly really delicious that time gravy.

Speaker 3 (01:35:21):
Yeah, so good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:22):
Yeah, okay, you didn't even I don't think I've eaten horse,
so I don't know what I have it. I shouldn't
eating rabbit a few times, but yeah, horse, yeah, I
mean why not you know? Yeah, well that's it.

Speaker 7 (01:35:34):
I mean I didn't know I was having horse. But
the horse was good, yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
Well, yeah, horse probably isn't saying that. I mean, it's
so small a I think of Malta's being just like
really like, could you could a keen half marathon a
kind of run around the whole island? Is it that
vibe or is it?

Speaker 9 (01:35:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:35:54):
That's right. And they haven't registered a medal on the
Telly at Paris unfortunately not yet.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
Yeah, okay, all right, very good. It sounds like an
amazing spot. I'm really envious. I would absolutely love to
visit Malta. So maybe one day, maybe one day if
they can give any planes back in yeah, very good,
we will catch it, so Mike, thank you very much.
Mike Yardley, our travel correspondent. All of his tips for
feasting your way from exploring your way through Malta and
Valletta will be up on the News Talks. He'd be

(01:36:21):
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Speaker 1 (01:36:40):
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Speaker 4 (01:36:56):
Sorry but I've told.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
You used to exact that you with Jack Tame. Jason
Plan is behind the make for weekend sport this afternoon,
and what a weekend of sport. We've got the marathon
kicking off just before the All Blacks as soon as
the All Backs finishes. Well, even in the second half
of the all backs, we're going to have to do

(01:37:24):
some sort of like impossible juggling because you've got the
K one semifinals, then you've got the K one finals
at eleven pm tonight. You've got Lydia Co currently in
first place heading into the last round. Hamish Kerr won
the World indoor title last year. He goes into the
men's high jump final. David Lytty, you've got the track cyclist.
It's hard to keep up. I haven't even mentioned the
worries MPC. I don't know how you're going to do

(01:37:46):
your show this afternoon. No, you've just read my diary, Jack.

Speaker 22 (01:37:49):
That is exactly the juggling that I'm looking forward to
doing over the next twenty four hours. You're right about tonight,
in particular with Amy Fisher and Dame Lisa Carrington. Not
since Athens two thousand and four, when Hamish Carter and
Bevern Doockerty went one to in the men's trithlon have
we had such a good chance of gold silver in
the same event. I don't know whether I don't know

(01:38:09):
the whether we should take sides. You know, I don't
feel like I want to. I mean it would be incredible.
Dame Lisha's now got seven gold medals and eight total
to get another one tonight. She she's just elevated herself
into the very top echelon, not just of New Zealand Olympians,
but of Olympians full stop.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27):
Yeah, absolutely, I mean the very top. So I think
the women's record for gold.

Speaker 22 (01:38:30):
Medals is none, Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I know,
it's mad that that that Lisa Carrington is in, that
is in that esteemed company. And then yeah, you start
talking about those who Lydia Co has already won two
Olympic medals, yeah, silver and Rio bronze and Tokyo.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
She's a co leader. She could win that.

Speaker 22 (01:38:45):
I mean, she could win gold medal, a gold medal
in the golf. And she's looking like the Lydia Co
at her best.

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
And she's had some you know, she's had some variable
form over the last few years, but she looks like
Lydia Co at her best. I agree, I agree.

Speaker 22 (01:38:57):
Maybe that's the Olympic seems to do something to you know,
I mean, like I say, golf's a hard game to win,
you know, to win Olympic medals and two games leat alone,
ever chance for a third. It's maybe it's something about
the Olympic rings that she really likes.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Yeah, yeah, it's bananas. So what has been your I
know you're not quite there yet, but what has been
your kind of standout moment of the game so far?
Is it a key we athlete, is it one of
the big international stars.

Speaker 22 (01:39:21):
It's a very good question. Actually, uh, there has been
so much. I think from a New Zealand point of view,
I have really enjoyed just watching things that you don't
expect necessarily. I mean it's probably recently biased, but even
Maddie Wishy this morning, yeah, in the shop, but I
just adored watching her and the way she way she
is makes she's so key we no, totally.

Speaker 2 (01:39:40):
She's cheering on the other understated and like yeah yeah,
just relaxed, relaxed.

Speaker 22 (01:39:45):
I was really looking forward to seeing that the one
hundred meters final and for Noah Lyles to win that
I thought was amazing. Obviously, what's happened since with them
getting COVID and then running the two hundred not winning
the two Have you.

Speaker 2 (01:39:54):
See the men's four times four by one hundred meter
this morning? The relay I didn't see it no, so
they basically, you know, the Americans always go in as
a hot favorite. The American stuffed up and they didn't
drop the bat, but they didn't they got the guy
doing the first leg stumbled as he went to pass
the bat into the second runner, and so they ended
up not doing the transfer within the allocated window, which

(01:40:17):
mean they were disqualified. Yea, but I mean hard Summer's
travel and that's it.

Speaker 22 (01:40:22):
And you can see it's every every stage of the
of the emotional scale for you know, from utter euphoria
to complete despair and everything in between. Yeah, yeah, absolutely,
what's on the show this after it was not on
the show, we'll try and cover as much as we can.
Madi Wish he's on the show. She's going to leave
us off after mid day, so chatting to her also.

(01:40:43):
We talk about Dame Lisa Carrington and Alicia Hoskin, but
the other two in the K four I'm going to
chat to both of them, Olivia Bretton to Aravaughn. They're
on the show All Blacks of course. Tonight we'll talk
about of that with Peter Alattini and World darts champion
and world number one Luke Humphries is on the show
coming for the Hamilton Darts Masters next weekend. So it's

(01:41:03):
not all Olympics and all blacks are but at darts
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
But I mean they're talking. I mean we say that
for now, the darts at the Olympic, Darts at the Olympics. Shepherdon. Honestly,
it would have the support. I have you seen the
breaking this morning? I thought you met breaking news. No,
I know the breaking well it is. Have you seen
the breakdancer. I watched a bit of it. Yeah, yeah,
Get the darts in there, Get the darts in there,
I say, twenty four to twelve one News Talks EDB.

Speaker 1 (01:41:27):
No better way to kick off your weekend than with Jack.
Saturday Mornings with Jack Team and bepurured on code Z
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Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
EDB twenty one to twelve on News Talks EDB. Katherine
Rains is our book reviewer. She's chosen two books to
recommend to us this weekend. More than a Katherine, Good
morning Jack. Okay, let's begin with the War below by
Ernest Scheider.

Speaker 8 (01:41:51):
So this pos the question that if we want to
build electric vehicles and solar panels and cell phones, that
we need to dig more minds to extract the minerals
such as latium and rare earths. And the focus on
the book is that we've reached a very time of
a very difficult choice, in particular focuses on the USA,
but relevant to other countries, and that the US wants

(01:42:11):
to reduce green vehicles and infrastructures, and it needs to
be able to.

Speaker 16 (01:42:15):
Access the metals and minerals to make those possible.

Speaker 8 (01:42:18):
And the places where they're available in the US are
places known for natural beauty and endangered species. And so
you see the examples of conflicts between the companies that
want to mine for certain metals, that residents who oppose
the constructions of those mines, the environmentalists that recognize that
mining various metals is essential to the green revolution but
don't want to disturb the native plants and the process,

(01:42:38):
the miners who want jobs, and the politicians who just
tell everybody what they want to hear because they need
both the votes of the miners and the environmentalists. And
so he takes it and he looks at as specific
places in the US such as Nevada and North Carolina,
and there's a focus on the Thames. But and it's
the only plant that's known to grow in the lithium
rich soil of Nevada, and he uses that discovery and
protection of this plant is the story that highlights those

(01:43:00):
tensions and compromises and motivations behind all of the different
people involved. You know, like if you don't mind the
mesals that we need for the electric vehicles, and you
become dependent on other countries and primarily China.

Speaker 16 (01:43:14):
And his argument here to supply with the materials.

Speaker 8 (01:43:19):
But if you do mine in the US, then you've
got the communities and the ecosystems and all of the
indigenous sites that could be destroyed forever. So he crafts
this business story that talks about all of those factors
and the changes to the geopolitical boundaries and you know,
what is it that we value and what's the cost
of the technology. And Yeah, it's fascinating because you know,
we're right at the sort of the beginning of this

(01:43:40):
argument almost about and those tensions that exist in every
way that we use energy.

Speaker 3 (01:43:45):
But how we solve those issues?

Speaker 15 (01:43:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:43:47):
That sounds intriguing. I think I'll be into this. That
sounds like a bit of meat. That's the wall below
by Ernest Scheider. You've also read Home Truths by Charity Norman.

Speaker 8 (01:43:55):
So this is a set in Yorkshire and it's told
by Liver at MB he's a probation officer, and her husband, Scott,
who's a secondary school teacher, in particular their teenage daughter Heidi,
and they have a son, Noah, and they look back
from twenty nineteen in August, where the whole story begins
on Heidi's thirteenth birthday, which led to Liver being on
trial for attempted murder. And at the party, Scott's brother

(01:44:18):
dies unexpectedly and everybody has their feelings of guilt which
lead to this family unraveling. And Livy's used to dealing
with criminals in her role as a probation officer, but
now that she's at risk of this prison term and
a jury's deliberating whether she's guilty or not. But her
husband Scott, after losing his brother, stumbles into this world
of online conspiracy theories and he's seeking answers or perhaps

(01:44:42):
comfort in those those theories, and it really turns the
lives of Lovera and Heidi and Noah upside down, and
you know, the tension kind of keeps going as he
steps further into this world of conspiracy theories, and Leve
is trying to hold her family together in this constant
anxiety about her children, in particular Noah, who suffers from asthma.
And there's just this a real suspense thriller, you know,

(01:45:03):
finally dynamics and the impact of these theories on personal
relationships in this courtroom drama where you know she's on
trial for attempted murder and you hit that tension and
lots of themes and grief and guilt and family and
you know she's guilty or not guilty, but lots of
twists and turns, and Charity Norman's particularly good at telling
the storyline.

Speaker 2 (01:45:20):
Yeah, a very good. Okay, that's Home Truths by Charity Norman,
Catherine's first book, The War Below by Ernest Scheider. Both
of those, of course, will be up on our website
eighteen to twelve new music from Australian musician Tones and
I next.

Speaker 1 (01:45:35):
Giving you the inside scoop on All you Need in
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Speaker 3 (01:45:43):
It'd be stay with.

Speaker 16 (01:45:45):
You, Stay by your side, Girdle.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48):
We will hold on on on for the ride.

Speaker 14 (01:45:51):
We don't need a speech. Just look up at the
light with me, listen and know that I will stay

(01:46:15):
with your, Start with your, stay with you. A full soul,
a fool tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:46:30):
That is tones and I the song is called Wonderful.
It's pretty, isn't it? Got an amazing voice. She's just
released an album called Beautifully Ordinary, and our music review
at Stelle Clifford has been listening.

Speaker 16 (01:46:44):
I'm really glad, you say, with that song for just
to get that real full.

Speaker 17 (01:46:50):
Races of her, Yeah, the richness of her vocals, and
I actually that's I think probably my favorite off the album,
and I wanted to showcase it because if you know
Dance Monkey, then you kind of.

Speaker 16 (01:47:01):
Know what her voice is like.

Speaker 17 (01:47:02):
But this one just gives that real variation on what
she can do. And I love the crescendos and I
love the choir that comes in and it is pretty
like it's this pretty pop song, and it's nice to
hear her do something that's a little bit different because
we know she can bring the jams that you can
dance to, and there's plenty of those on this album too.

Speaker 16 (01:47:24):
But just to also have that. I think there's more emotion.

Speaker 17 (01:47:29):
Behind some of what she's singing in this album, and
I think it's a really nice bit of growth for
her to actually go, yeah, I'm gonna own this and
go somewhere different. There's a couple of songs like that
actually that have sort of surprised me. There's a song
called Sorrento, and I wasn't quite sure how she was
singing about until her Nana on Instagram did a reveal
of her album cover, and I think it's actually like

(01:47:50):
a love letter to her granddad, like and hang it
out in Sorrento, and I just thought that was really beautiful.
It's funny when you listen to Tones and I because
you forget that she's full ossy, and then you get
onto her Instagram and.

Speaker 16 (01:48:01):
You hear her full sassy ossy accents.

Speaker 17 (01:48:03):
And you're like, oh, that's right, and she's fun man,
and she's a bit chaos her can. Yeah, totally taking
the mickey out of Nana doing the album reveal, which
I just I thought that was really cute. It's just
a nice thing to show the Tones and I. The
song that I think everybody knows is dance Monkey, and
I'm not sure if you mentioned it earlier, but the
whole over three billion streams on Spotify for just one single,

(01:48:28):
and that's that's huge and it really catapulted her to
a different level, right, like really successful Australian artist now
suddenly on this global recognition, and that song just keeps
being one of her one of her biggest songs. There's
some songs on this album that are gonna gonna compete
with that, really you reckon? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

(01:48:51):
ess is catchy. There's actually a song called Dance with Me,
so it's Monkey is all about dancing for me, and
then there's a song called Dance with Me, so maybe
that's a little bit of a you know, she wants
someone to dance with and now as a poster you
being out there on your own doing your thing.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Yeah, but it's it's all big.

Speaker 17 (01:49:07):
And pop and catchy executly like that song there, she's
got a bit of blues sway and country swag and
a couple of the tracks later into the album, I
think maybe that's possibly to keep up with where because
pop and country have been doing that real popular crossover,
like a lot of artists delving into that country thing

(01:49:28):
if they weren't already a country artist. I don't know
if it's necessarily my favorite of her stuff, but it
kind of breaks up the album and gives it a
little different sort of groove, which I.

Speaker 16 (01:49:38):
Kind of like. Fixtures played a little bit more on
this album.

Speaker 17 (01:49:41):
With that kind of stuff, her distinctive voice, some real
big anthem productions, a couple of tracks where it's just
a girl and her guitar and she can hold her
own on those, and yeah, lots of that dance stuff,
and then also this use of this choir for backing vocals,
which just adds another level, doesn't it. Like it's just
a beautiful kind of thing to hear. Possibly one or

(01:50:03):
too many tracks on the album.

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Like it's quite long, are they?

Speaker 17 (01:50:07):
I think it's like sixteen tracks? Okay, yeah, yeah, but
maybe that's just also because there's those ones that really
stand out.

Speaker 16 (01:50:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. I'm happy with those ones.

Speaker 2 (01:50:17):
Something.

Speaker 17 (01:50:17):
Yeah, yeah, there's a couple I'm like, oh yeah, that's
kind of a similar sort of pop song. I think
when she adds those variations, that's kind of what you're
living for to hear that in her I think it's
going to be a good album to tour, like, there's
lots of fun, it's.

Speaker 16 (01:50:29):
Quite raw at times with her emotion.

Speaker 17 (01:50:32):
She opens with a track that is just full like
anyone who's ever doubted her or had anything bad to say.
She's like, well, I'm just going to give it all
back to all of you. Yeah, and a real showcase
of her range. So she's really really showing off in
this in this album too, which I think is quite
cool to hear her voice stretch.

Speaker 2 (01:50:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:50:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:50:50):
So if you want to see her, she's at the
Aucklandtown Hall on the twenty eighth of this month. Oh album,
yeah yeah, And I think, like I say, I think
it's going to be a really great showcase and a
really fun fun gig to go and see her.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
So oh nice, Okay, cool, that sounds great, So what
do you do?

Speaker 16 (01:51:06):
It all a fun listen? It's an eight out of
ten to me.

Speaker 2 (01:51:08):
Eight out of ten for tones and I am beautifully ordinary.
All right, we're gonna have a bit more of a listen.
We'll try and pick out one of those songs that
you reckon. There's going to be a banger that might
be able to compete with her streaming records as they stand.
Thank you so much of Stelle pleasure. Very good. That
is the Stale Clifford Our Music reviewer eight out of
ten for beautifully ordinary by tones and I will have
all listen in a couple of minutes. I wanted to
read you this though. It's got this amazing email Jack,

(01:51:31):
A nice overview of Malta from your travel correspondent Mike
Yardley this morning and Valletta. I've got to say it
is bloody hot here right now. I've been here for
forty years in Malta, coming home to visit this week
with my Maltese wife and really looking forward to a
cooler climb. How good that's from Brian. I just I

(01:51:51):
love technology. Isn't this amazing? So Brian is tuning into
news talk Z'DB live from Malta at the moment. Isn't
that incredible? So halfway in the middle of the Mediterranean,
halfway between Sicily and Tunisia, Brian is tuning in for
a sounder home and messaging us, sending us an email

(01:52:11):
from Malta that is really amazing. So thank you so much, Brian,
delighted to hear you coming home for a visit. I
hope you and your wife have an amazing time, and
it's still pretty chilly. I've just compared the temperatures in
New Zealand at the moment, especially the r temperatures and
Tartanaki with those in Valletta, and it's certainly going to
be a change of pace, to say the least. But
I hope you have a wonderful trip. It has just

(01:52:31):
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Speaker 2 (01:52:43):
Don't go anywhere. That's my advice for the next twelve
hours or so, do not go anywhere. Right after the
midday news, Jason Pine is going to be kicking off
Weekend Sport an interview with Maddie Wishi as she reflects
on that incredible performance in the woman's shot puts silver
medal for New Zealand. This morning. He will be speaking
with her and counting down to what could be. We
don't want to jinx anything touching what everywhere a golden

(01:53:05):
night for New Zealand. The twenty twenty four Olympic Games.
As the Games come to an end, we have so
much to look forward to. The K one five hundred
women's semis and final, Hamish Kerr in the high jump,
the track cycling team racing. We've got David Letti competing
in the weightlifting, Lydia Coe currently leading the women's golf
heading into the final round. And I don't know if

(01:53:26):
you heard, but this team called the All Blacks are
playing tonight as well against Argentina and Wellington. An incredible
evening of sporting entertainment awaits us all. Thank you so
much for all your comms this morning, your texts and emails,
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