Paul Stenhouse: UK Govt issues order to gain Apple iPhone data, Tinder allows you to connect based on relationship style

The UK government is trying to get eyes on your iPhone data – regardless of where you live 

Reporting from the Washington Post says the UK government has issued a secret order to Apple to effectively give it backdoor access to all the data, even the encrypted data that it stores in iCloud.     

It's an offense for a company to reveal they've received this type of order, under the UK’s Investigatory Powers Act of 2016. Apple is expected to stop offering encrypted backups in the UK, but if it also meets the demand to offer a backdoor to encrypted data, then other nations like the US and China are likely to ask for the same thing. 

While the position from most law enforcement has been that it makes it easier for terrorists and child abusers to hide, the US, Canada, Australia, and NZ are now in favour of encryption to stop Chinese hackers.  

  

Tinder wants you to find the "relationship" you want  

Tinder has more than just a stack of profiles to swipe through at random, there's also an explore page which has let folks connect based on interests like Animal Parents or Gamers. But now you can also look for those who are wanting the same style of relationship as you. There are now categories for serious daters, those looking for a long-term partner, non-monogamy, and short-term fun.  

  

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be our Textbert Paul Stenhouse is here with big
news in the world of relationship dating online. These days,
Tinder wants you to find the relationship you want. Big
changes coming to the dating platform.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yeah, it's been a while since probably either of us
have been on Tinderjack. So just to set the scene,
Tinder used to be the app where you were just
the profiles would pop up and you'd swipe through them
left and right, kind of almost at random, right, Like
I think there was some algorithm kind of there. But
did you know I didn't that Tinder also had an
explore page or has an explore page, So there were

(00:47):
interests on there like animal parents or gamers and things
like that, and you could kind of like start to
find people you might want to be in a relationship
with based on your interests. But now Tinder Jack.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
So sorry, just to be clear on that that you're
still looking for you're still dating on that. So you're
still dating. Yeah, right, So I could say I'm looking
for people who are who love having a really clear
bench top. It's a niche. It's a niche, but No,
I couldn't. It wouldn't be next. So I could say
I'm curated playing for abee or something. Yeah, yeah, I think.

Speaker 3 (01:19):
It's even more curated than that. Right, that just puts
for random parameters in. If only you could get that
specific Yeah, I'm a night owl, I'm you know. Yeah,
that could be quite handy, but instead check they've put
some new options in which, let's just say, I think
might kind of change the game for Tinder because you
can now say the type of style of relationship you're

(01:41):
looking for. So there's now categories for serious datas people
looking for long term partners. Here's where it gets interesting,
non monogamy and my favorite short term fun.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Oh wow, short term fun. Yes, Saturday morning pool. Here
we go.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
I think that's like the most family friendly way.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, so we don't need to go into any more
detail on that front. Hey, the UK government is trying
to get eyes on iPhone users data. But here's the hook.
It doesn't matter where you live, don't have to be
in the UK. They want that data.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Yeah yeah, New Zealand, the US doesn't matter. They want
the data that Apple has. And this is all happening
in you know, secret basically and this. We only know
about it because of reporting from the Washington Post, and
the Post says that the UK government's issued this secret
order to Apple. It all sounds very kind of spy

(02:42):
movie esque, doesn't it really. But Apple is basically being
asked to give the UK government this backdoor into iCloud,
which even covers the encrypted data that you have in iCloud,
because Apple gives you an option to either store your
data in iCloud unencrypted or in a more secure encrypted way,

(03:02):
And so that's now what they want to get access
to globally, which is interesting. The encrypted piece is the
most interesting, obviously, because if they can get in and
break the encryption with like a sort of secret key,
there's a very good chance that other governments are going
to want that as well. Apple has been very adamant

(03:23):
that they're the privacy company. You can store your data
with us. It is safe. The US, like China, would
probably be wanting the same thing. Apple has been saying
no to those governments. But what's also interesting about this
is that the UK is kind of alone when it
comes to wanting to break into encryption. As I mentioned,
the US and China and other folks have kind of

(03:45):
wanted it, but in most recent times, actually law enforcement
in the US, in Canada, in Australia and New Zealand
they're actually now in favor of encryption on these platforms.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Right.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
The argument used to be, oh, it makes it easy
for terrorists and child abusers and other criminals to do
things in secret and we can't get in. But they're
no actually saying encrypt it because they want to stop
China these hackers. Man, So what a turn of events.
But no, this is all happening completely in secret and
is really one to watch. The hard part is that
under this law is actually an offense for Apple to

(04:19):
reveal that they've got this from the UK.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Right.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
And it's also Apple doesn't need to notify anybody if
they give that example and then if they agree and
also if they then give access to a user. Wow,
so we're kind of never going to know. So thanks
Washington Post because that might be the only way we
knew that this was happening or was going to happen,
or does happen.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah, that is so interesting. He thank you, Paul. That
is Paul our texpert. You're fascinating how the UK has
those secrecy laws so they can stop any of that
stuff being reported. Really is quite remarkable, fascinating times in
which we live.

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