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Speaker 3 (01:47):
Jack Team.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Well, let's be honest, Donald Trump has been right before.
There are occasions where he's come out with something seemingly crazy,
something totally bananas, earning him all the iron and ridicule
of the expert class and the media, only to may
B B be proven right over time. The one that
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springs to mind is the travel band with China shortly
after COVID nineteen took off. One minute he was being
rinsed for it. The next well, everyone had a travel
band with China. That being said, it is so hard
to see how his extraordinary move this week is going
to work out as he says it will. Overnight, China
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has reacted to Trump's tariff plan with retaliate tree tariffs. Yes,
the trade war has kicked off. Sheer markets around the
world have continued to shed trillions of dollars in value.
That's trillions with a tr trillions in value, thousands of
billions of dollars. Today is not the day for checking
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your key we saver balance. I can assure you of that.
But even as the US Federal Reserve says America should
expect slower economic growth and higher inflation, the White House
insists Donald Trump's plan is working. One of the curious
things about this term as president is how little Trump
has seemed to care about the stock market. Remember his
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first term as president, Anything that hurt share prices elicited
an immediate backdown, and Trump constantly bragged about how he
had the strongest economy. Ever, it just feels like it's
going to be extremely difficult to make that argument when
everything or almost everything, costs more. Still, if we've learned
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anything from the past, it shouldn't be that sometimes Trump
is right to buck conventional wisdom. If we've learned anything,
it's that in the absurd, polarized world we now live in,
personality and teams are much more important than facts. This
applies to many of Trump's opponents as well. People on
the absolute opposite end of the political spectrum, such as
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the nature of polarization. We're always right, we're never and
Trump's keenest cheer leaders are so slavishly loyal many refuse
to even acknowledge the most obvious objective failings. So his
team accidentally messaged war plans to a journalist. Well, we'll
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just insist they weren't classify it. So he's slapped tariffs
on uninhabited sub Antarctic islands. Of course he has. Those
penguins have been getting away with murder, you know, murder
for decades now. So he's kicked off a global trade
war that will leave a majority of US worst off. Fantastic,
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all part of the genius. It's a full game to
try and predict Donald Trump's next move. But for the
little it's worth. My best guess, and it is just
that a guess, is that none of these tariffs are
set in stone. Countries are going to try and plicate him.
Companies in the US are going to try and negotiate
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their own little carve outs. If you're a company that
relies on bringing in some mineral from China and you
need that to develop your industry, you're going to go
and knock on the door at Pennsylvania Avenue and ask
Donald Trump for a little bit of special treatment. And
Donald Trump is going to absolutely love picking favorites. That
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being said, his approach will lurch all over the place,
defined only by spur of the moment, whims and incoherence.
Regardless of what happens, Trump will claim success, his supporters
will agree, and the global order looks that much more unstable.
Jack Team ninety two ninety two is the text number
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if you want to send me a message this morning.
Jacket Newstalks headb dot co dot nz is the email address.
Don't forget the standard text costs to play if you
are going to message me that way. Crazy time to
be alive, crazy, crazy, crazy time to be alive. I
was speaking to a friend yesterday, a contact who is
really involved in the Asian share markets and investing and
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kind of has a really global perspective, all sorts of
extremely interesting, clever, powerful contacts and governments around the world.
I called him and asked him what he thought of
it all, and he said, you know what, I think
this is one of the most significant days of my life.
I said, come on, that's a bit overblown, isn't it.
He said, put it this way, I reckon, in decades
to come, we're going to look back at the fall
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of the Berlin Wall and we will say that was
the start of the free trade era, and yesterday was
the end. He reckons we are headed into totally unprecedented territory.
So on that cherry note, flick us a message Kevin
Melmill kick us off for Saturday morning.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
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Speaker 2 (06:54):
It's thirteen minutes past nine. I'm jacktaying this this news
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Speaker 2 (07:07):
Be Jack, says Mike. He's intentionally crashing the stocks so
he and his mates can buy and low then remove
the tariffs. Well that's cynical, Mike, But I suppose there
is some kind of some people will see logic in
that Jack Trump has taken all allies hostage. The US
can no longer be considered an ally. Well, I don't
think it's a formal ally of New Zealand, but I
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do think you make a really good point. But even
if all of these tariffs were removed, right, we went
back to how things were six months ago. Tariff wise,
at the very least, there is nothing that can assure
other countries around the world that even if a completely
conventional type president is elected in three and a half
years time, that in the future the American public won't
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elect another Donald Trump like figure who is prepared to
make pretty spur of the moment volatile kind of decisions
that throw the global order into the kind of madness
we're experiencing at the moment. So yeah, I think you're right.
We probably can't rely on America to be nearly as
stable as it has been in the past. Jeff has
good advice for us of well, don't look at your
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key we saver account for today, I'll get tomorrow you
feedback in a couple of minutes. Seventeen past nine on Newstalks,
he'd be And Kevin Milner is with us this morning.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Calder, Kevin, Gellahad Jack, what do you reckon? Do you
think that Trump is now less popular in America than
he was? Supporters he's even greater.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Now, I think among his supporters, I think there is
I think when Trump says he could walk down Forthavenue
and shoot someone, I think like among his supporters his
die hard supporters. There is literally nothing that would stop
him from being the kind of, you know, the popular
figure that he is. It is almost kind of cultish,
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the slavish devotion to him. So even when there is
a very little coherence around some of the arguments, people just,
I think, absolutely love him. I also think that applies
to other politicians on the other side of things. But
I think with trumpets especially pronounced. That being said, I
reckon there are some probably a big slab of more
marginal voters who supported him in the last election but
are thinking, oh, I actually, you know, I did like
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it when stuff was a little less expensive. I do
like economic growth. I don't love inflation. And those people
might be that their support might be a little bit,
you know, a little bit less firm. But yeah, it's
going to be amazing to see. I mean, you know,
one thing to point out is that that there are
already countries that are lowering their tariffs to try and
plicate him, and so if you you know, and maybe
he'll say, this is the thing, it's just a negotiating
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tactic to get everyone to lower tariffs on the US.
But I mean, you know, he put out that list
yesterday I said New Zealand had a twenty percent tariff
on the US.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
We just don't.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
I mean, it's just totally factually, just totally incorrect. But
the facts no matter in this world, Kevin. Facts don't
matter him anyway. Young you have been you have been
thinking about the economy of this week, and in particular,
you've been thinking about real estate.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Well, I've always felt sorry for people bidding for houses
and deadline sales and sales by tender.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Having done all their due.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Diligence at considerable cost, they have to put in a
bid with no idea what the other bids look like.
You find a house you like, you pay for a
builder's report, you pay for it to be valued, You
run it past the lawyer, more cost, and wait a
month or so to find that once again, you've been
out bid hundreds, maybe thousands of dollars, meant still no house.
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Really tough on first home buyers. I've been on both
sides of deadline sales. When I sold, I did really
well out of it, but I hated being a buyer.
Deadline sales and sales by tender are designed for the seller.
Now fair enough, you could say, real estate agents work
for and are paid for by the seller. My son
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tells me that in central London now, if you want
to get rental accommodation a flat, you have to pitch
for it. You find the flat that you like and
you're forward in writing what rent you've prepared to.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
Pay for it.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
The highest bid gets the flat. It's no longer a
matter of getting in first, which was bad enough. It's
a matter of how much money you've got. I hope
bidding for rentals hasn't hit New Zealand yet, have you?
Speaker 6 (11:27):
Are you aware that it has or hasn't yet?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Well?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I actually think we're in this curious moment, Kevin, where
rental demand is down as much lower than it was,
so I think for the first time, and however many
years renters have slightly more power than they did in
the past. So I think it's quite different to how
it is in the UK. But I'm sure that has yet.
Speaker 5 (11:48):
Yeah, you think it has back when you know, I
look back back when I bought my first house. It
was so much simpler and it seemed to work for everyone.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
You looked at photos of houses.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
In the paper or at a real estate office, and
under each photo was the price the owner wanted for them,
simple as that you'd be taking on the tour of
the house and if you wanted it, you'd not five
percent of what the owner wanted and put in an
offer and usually the house was yours. Now, especially for
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first owned buyers, bidding makes buying your house a bit
of a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
I think, Yeah, it's so tough a I mean, just yeah,
it speaks to some kind of imbalance. But you can
imagine how stressful that must be if you're trying to
trying to get a flat. I mean it's.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Yeah, and the time it all takes. Yeah, you know,
you put in your bed and you waded around and
waited around, and then you don't get it again. You know,
it turns out there were fifteen other bidders. Yeah, and
you're not quite sure how far your bid was off
the was off the top until the information comes clear.
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Now I find it, I find I'm very very please.
I'm loving at first. I'm not a first own boter anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Yeah, all right, Kevin, Hey, thank you so much for
your time. Appreciate it is ever Kevin Milne there with
us this morning, be fourteen o'clock. We've got your movie
picks for this week, including this film Novacaine, which does
look quite interesting actually, so our film review is going
to be here with us very shortly and give us
a bit more detail about that. Right now, it's twenty
two minutes past nine. We'll get to Liam Laws and
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update and talk super Rugby in a couple of minutes,
our Sportos and.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Next getting your weekends started.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
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Speaker 2 (13:43):
Okay, I've done a quick fact check in the ad break,
so here we go. I think encouraging rental bidding in
New Zealand is illegal, So that's there.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
There you go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
That answers that. So it might be happening in central London,
but it shouldn't be happening in New Zealand at the moment.
Speaker 6 (13:57):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
I'm not an old Trump supporter, but he campaigned on
tariffs and unfortunately the people in the US voted him in.
Nothing we can do other than brace our souls for
the storm and hopefully not w Yeah, it is true
he did. He's obviously back to tariffs for a long time.
I think I think people everywhere, maybe not his supporters
in the US, but were surprised by the scale and
breadth of the tariffs announced this week, But I guess
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we will wait and see what happens. But you know,
China overnight responding with retaliatory tariffs. It doesn't feel like
that relationship is improving at all at the moment. Ninety
two is the text number if you want to get
in touch our sport. Andrew Saville is here with us
this morning and sad Liam Lawson on the track for
the first time this season in the second Red Bull
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car if you like team, After what has been a
really tumultuous couple of weeks for him personally, he looked
more confident overnight.
Speaker 8 (14:51):
A lot more confident morning, Jack. Yeah, he did very
well use today. What you've got to remember is he's
gone back to the Racing Bulls team and it's a
different car that he raced for Racing Balls at the
tail end of last year when he had those five
or six events in a row. So he's had to
come to grips. He hasn't tested that new car like
the Red Bull car previously, This Racing Bulls car he
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hasn't tested. Got on the seat yesterday, did really well,
I think twelve or thirteenth after the first practice and
let's not forget you know, they're changing tires a lot,
they're tweaking the set up a lot. There's not a
huge amount you can read into practice, but he did
well to i'd imagine, gain some confidence back, looked strong
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and comfortable. Then in last night's second practice session he
was fifth overall. So I think that's what the team
can ask for. What he asked for is that he
improves with each session. The third practice is today and
then all eyes will be on qualifying. I think it's
about seven or eight o'clock tonight. Liam Lawson would need
i'd say at least a top ten qualifying spot. I
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think he can do that to to give everybody assurances
again that he does belong if one. Now, that second
practice session had four red flags across one hour, so
you've got to take a lot of times in the consideration.
I think he was faster than Sonoda and a stapping,
but they didn't get a real chance to post a
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fast lap, so take that with a grain of salt.
But the first day very very encouraging.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
I'd say, yeah, there was a pretty nasty crash at
Jack doing Jack doing the ausie. Yeah, yeah, I really
hit the wall very hard. I mean, he seems okay,
but it was a bit of a worry goes.
Speaker 8 (16:36):
To show again. You know, any any sort of twitch
in these cars, any sort of wheel lock or and
you're off and at that speed anything can happen. I
think the good thing for Liam lawson y today was
that he kept it on the track. Yeah, his lines
were very positive, his racing lines. He was getting a
fair amount of pace out of the car. It would do,
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it would have done. I'm sure his confidence a world
of good.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Yeah. Yeah, great Chiefs win over the reads last night, yes,
top of the table flash and yeah they looked they
looked pretty good. Three tries a piece. It was the
kicking that made the difference in the end.
Speaker 8 (17:10):
Yep, a real armory soul given the deluge in the
north in other parts of the country yesterday, very very
soggy sort of game, quite tight early on, a lot
of forward play, a lot of keeping the ball tight,
which was the way to go for both teams. We
did see some attack in patches and I think the
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Chiefs near the end just really put their foot down
and they scored two tries in the last ten minutes
and walked away with a win twenty seven fifteen. The
Reds have been a little bit of a bogey team
for them in the past few years, especially in pool play,
in regulation play rather, but in the playoffs the Chiefs
have had their numbers. So Chiefs quite rightly because I
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think they have proved o the best team in the
competition at the moment they go back to the top
of the table. The good news is Jack, as you
can probably tell, the rain has cleared an Auckland. It's
beautifully sunny. Not a cloud in the sky. Is quite
remarkable the last couple of days. And you've got Mowana
versus Warratas at North Harbor Stadium this afternoon, Auckland f
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C at Mount Smart at five and then the Blues
Hurricanes at Eden Park at seven.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Amanza, I know it is. It's a bit of a
bit of a feast, isn't it. The Blues Canes is
going to be fantastic. It can't be long now, I though,
I actually need to do the maths. I'm sure Jason
Pine's done it at some point as well. At what
point we can say that Auckland f C have the
regular season sign up but they're probably not quite yet,
but a couple of games away. I mean that I
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think about seven points clear at the top.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Of the A League.
Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah, seven clear. They could go ten clear, but they've
still got I think four games up to go, so
they need another and need another win or two before
they can secure that top spot. The interesting thing, Jack
will be just quickly when the playoffs come around. If
they finish top, they get a week off, they get
to buy Yeah, in the first week the pluffs straight
into the home and away semis. I'd imagine the semi
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final would be at Mount Smart. But should they make
the fire, I wouldn't be surprised if they shifted at
to Eden Park in the stadium sold out.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
Yeah. True, Yeah, that is a very good point. Actually, yeah,
I was gonna be fascinated. Let's not get ahead of
ourselves just yet, but yeah, that that is a really
interesting scenario. It's going to be amazing to see what
happens if they get to that point. Thank you very much, sir,
We will catch you soon. Our Sporto Andrew Savil there
before ten o'clock, we're in the kitchen. Nikki Wix, our
cook has a delicious recipe for a quince paste. She says,
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it's actually very simple and it's sort of got a
kind of such a classy element, doesn't it. If you
can make your own quince paste. It's very European of her.
So she's going to share with that that with us
very shortly, your film picks for this weekend in a
couple of minutes, twenty nine to ten.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I still.
Speaker 9 (19:58):
It's all red, It's all red.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
This is Are We Dead? By Liberty, and it's an
interesting little story behind this. So kee we Muso. Georgia
Lions launched a competition earlier this year to try and
highlight independent artists and give them a bit of industry
to support a few more resources. And the winner of
the competition was Liberty. This is her brand new track.
It's called are We Dead? It came out this week
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and yeah, I reckon. Given all that, Liberty is probably
going to be one to watch on the New Zealand
music scene this year. Hey, thank you for your feedback,
Jack regarding the trade war, Come on, be honest, is
this all bad for New Zealand. Our dollars dropped, our
interestrates are down, and we'll go down further. We only
got a ten percent tariff ke we export as the
lightly to absorb that. In the short term, the rest
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of the world will want to do more with us
as they move away from the US, especially China. Yes,
global demand will weaken, but we're small. We're just a tiny,
tiny piece of the puzzle and all we need is
a little bit more love to move our way. Much
different story for Canada, for Mexico, for other countries, et cetera. Yeah, look,
I suppose relative to lots of other countries, New Zealand
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is in a good position, right, you know, you know,
relative to the countries that have tariffs of thirty percent,
say a ten percent tariff doesn't seem so bad. And
you could say that compared to some of our competing
exporters when it comes to things like wine in the US,
like we did better than the EU, So you could say, well,
actually we're in a stronger position than we were. But
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I suppose Donald Trump's big purpose behind these tariffs is
to try and drive domestic production and demand in the US.
So you've got to remember it's New Zealand exports versus
what is being produced in the US. But yep, I
guess we don't know fully the exact extent to the
effect here, except to say that anyone with a key
(22:00):
we saver or anyone with shares is looking at really
significant losses at the moment, and some people even reckon
that we could be facing a global recession which would
certainly impact New Zealand. But yeah, I guess we have
to wait and see. Ninety two ninety two is the
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this morning, Jacket newsbalks hed b dot co dot NZ.
It is twenty four minutes to ten, which means it's
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time to catch up with Francisca Rudkin for her film
picks this weekend. More than a Francisca good morning. Okay,
we have two different movies, both of them are on
at the Movies at the moment, So let's start off
with a little listen to Novacane.
Speaker 3 (22:36):
So what's he down deal.
Speaker 8 (22:40):
I'm just a regular guy with a regular job, but
I've got this condition where I don't feel pains.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
You're a superhero.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Okay, that's Novacane. Tell us about it, Francesca.
Speaker 10 (22:52):
So this is a bit of an action comedy.
Speaker 11 (22:54):
It stars Jack Quaid, son of Mee Meg Ryan and
Dois Quaid and He's a really charming lead.
Speaker 10 (22:59):
Here is Nathan.
Speaker 11 (22:59):
He really sort of fits the character beautifully. He plays
this nerdy assistant bank manager. He's crush on one of
his bank employees, Sherry played by Amber mid Thunder. And
as you heard in the trailer, there the gimmick or
the main joking the spell is that Nathan has this
rare genetic disorder that means he can't feel pain. And
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while he might think to yourself, wow, that is quite
a cool superpower, turns out it's actually really inconvenient and
very limiting Jack, because of course he has to live
this really controlled life because he doesn't know when he
is seriously injured himself. So for example, his parents wouldn't
let him eat solid food for fear of biting his
tongue off and not knowing he's got tennis balls on
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all the corners of furniture because he can, you know, hurt,
but that he has to set an alarm to go
the loo because he doesn't feel when his bladder is
full sort of thing. So it's actually quite limiting, not
hugely convenient superpower to have. Anyway, There's this robbery at
the bank and Sherry has taken hostage, and Nathan has
fallen madly in love with Sherry and he decides to
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actually put his life on the line to get her back. Finally,
he's decided he's just going to get out there and
go for it, and off he does. So the rest
of the film it's just a series of inventive ways
to injure Nathan, and it's very brutal. It's pretty violent.
This whole sort of premise gives the filmmakers lots of
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room to come up with creative ways to injure and
hurt Nathan, and they really do go to town on it,
and there is some sense that I actually couldn't watch
as he being you know, fish's bullets out of his
body and does things anyway, it's really good fun.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
It is light.
Speaker 10 (24:47):
It's a little bit different.
Speaker 11 (24:48):
As I mentioned, it is an action comedy, but it's
also a romantic comedy, and I like the fact they've
tried to kind of come up with the romantic comedy
that's got a bit of a different edge to it.
I didn't think it quite came together as well as
it could, and that might be because they were largely
relying on one gag throughout the whole film, and some
of them, you know, some they executed that better at
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sometimes not so well at other times.
Speaker 10 (25:12):
So that gets a little bit tiring. And I wasn't
one hundred percent.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
Sure about that the romantic spark between the two leads.
But otherwise, if you would like some fun escapism to
forget about the world this week, Jack, then.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
I can seriously recommend neither came very good.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Okay. Cool, So that's showing in cinemas at the moment.
Also showing at cinemas a Minecraft movie.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
In the Overworld.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
Wow, anything you can dream.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
About, you can create some good book or this. Yeah,
most of it.
Speaker 6 (25:49):
Light here was perfect until one deck went and we
came across me another.
Speaker 2 (25:59):
Okay, got some big names in this Jason memoir, Jack Black,
Jermain Clements for a Minder movie.
Speaker 11 (26:06):
Hey, has Tara spoken to you? Have you come across
the new Apple TV show called The Studio yet?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Ah? Yes, yes we have.
Speaker 11 (26:13):
Yeah, it's the satire. It's the satire on Hollywood movie studios, right.
And in the early aps, the studio owner he says
to his new president, who really wants to make quality films.
He says, Okay, I want to make a movie as
big as Barbie, and he comes up with this idea
to make a film based on the Cool aid Man.
And so this new president is sort of devastated that
he wants to do this kind of populist kind of film.
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The marketing executive is ecstatic and says, I can make
so much money out of this with him, And it
kind of looks at that dilemma that Hollywood faces, creatives
wanting to be creatives and studios and suits wanting to
make lots of money. And I did think to myself
that it's a little unfortunate in the week that this
sort of TV series has kind of hit and we're
all talking about it. We have a film about one
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of the biggest, most popular video games around has been released,
shot entirely in New Zealand. Huntley Stands in Idaho. But
this is so totally New zeal And. Every key we
will go to ango. No, this is so key.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
We You've even got the handy power station in the background.
It's fantastic, as you mentioned, absolutely fantastic parts. Jack Back
and just Mamore. They really ham it up in this film.
They even break into a song.
Speaker 11 (27:24):
I think the performances are very much aimed at the
young audiences.
Speaker 10 (27:28):
Look, I am fond of Minecraft. My children loved playing
it when they were younger. I'm not so familiar with
it anymore.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
I like the way that it allowed them to be creative,
you know, like it's like Lego video game, but it's
not really my world. So I can't tell you now
whether this sort of is loyal to the Minecraft game
as it is today, But I don't really think it's
aimed at me. I do think this film is aimed
at the young audience, who are going to absolutely love
(27:58):
this over the holidays. It is a very simple story.
The premise is pretty straightforward. They go on a mission
in the overworld and try and escape back to the
real world.
Speaker 10 (28:08):
It's got all the all.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
The characters and all the objects and the treasures that
feature in the game pop up, and it was lovely
to hear the kids all around. You kind of get
excited when they saw things and can relate to things.
But really probably pretty simplistic actually, and yeah, I mean
especial effects I thought were really great.
Speaker 10 (28:32):
A very highly stylized world. I thought they sort of
got the aesthetic.
Speaker 11 (28:36):
They did the aesthetic really well, and the live action
slips into that brilliantly, and that can be really hard
to do to make you feel like the live action
is taking place in such a highly stylized world. Of
course sort of shot against the green screen, so they've
done a really good job there. But I think this
will be huge fun for the clubs these holidays.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
Yeah, yeah, which is not a bad thing at all,
Thank you so much. That is a minecraft movie. Francesca's
first one, the comedy is Novacaine. And we'll have all
the details for those films the news talks. He'd be website.
She mentioned Tara. That is, of course Tara Award, our
screen time expert, who is with us every Saturday morning
after ten o'clock with three shows. You always recommends three
(29:16):
shows watching or streaming at home if you can't be
bothered getting your chill wimba off the couch. She's gonna
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about this brand new show from British comedian Jimmy Carr,
who I just I love Jimmy Carr. Still kind of
a unique comedian, right just with those one liners, the
snappy one liners. Friend of the show Jimmy Carr, of course, Anyway,
(29:38):
he's got this brand new show where he gets heaps
of other UK comedians and they all have to just
compete in a really simple challenge. So basically they've got
to make other people laugh whilst themselves keeping a really
straight face, so they can't move, they can't they can't react,
They've got to make other people laugh. And yeah, anyway,
(29:58):
we're gonna tell you about the show after ten o'clock
this morning, Don't Forget as well feature interview this morning
right after the ten o'clock news, Key We Music Legend,
He with the Velvet Voice. Marlon Williams is going to
be with us. He's got a brand new album. I said,
he's doing things differently. He's doing things differently because the
whole of Tefuddy Te wick O Wika is in Maldi.
(30:18):
This is the first time he's done that in an album.
So he's with us in studio after teen. Right now
it is sixteen minutes to teen. We're in the kitchen.
Next on Newstalks EDB.
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dB fourteen to ten non news talks edb. Nicki Wicksaur
cook is in the kitchen for us this morning, killed Niki.
Speaker 13 (30:42):
Oh cura in my heart is a fluss up with
what we're talking about this morning.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Oh okay, I thought, oh, you've got some bad I
think you're gonna see some saucy goss or something with
us there here. No, that's okay. I'm equally excited about
sweet things, so there's no judgment from me. Just for
a moment there, I thought, Oh, okay, NICKI, where we
go with this?
Speaker 14 (31:03):
That's all right?
Speaker 10 (31:04):
Well, I'm in love.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
It's true with quints, it's funny. Look, I feel like
people don't really know what to do with quinces. You
know about a quin's paste. But you know, is that fair?
Speaker 14 (31:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 13 (31:18):
And I think that's completely fair. You know, if you
have a quince tree, I mean, they actually grow really well,
They've got a beautiful blossom on them, but you end
up with these fruit that are rock hard, and the
only way you can tell that they are ripe is
by the yellow hue to their furry skins. And they
seem like the most inhospitable fruit in the world because
(31:42):
they you know, they're hard to chop up.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
What do you do with them?
Speaker 13 (31:45):
One quince goes a long way.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
But I'm here to tell.
Speaker 13 (31:49):
You that there are so many things you can do,
and that the easiest thing to do with them is
first of all, to peel them with a potato peela
or vegetable peela. Chop them in half, super hard. You
need a big knife and a strong arm. Chop them
into quarters. Check them in a dish or a pot
or a roast ied them in the oven. I roast them,
you know, Fill that dish with a little you know,
(32:09):
so half full with water. Don't worry about all this
business about how they brown off and this, that and
the other, and put them in a scidulated I lemon
juice water. To me, that's all a bit of a pilava.
You're going to roast the heck out.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Of them anyway, you know what I mean.
Speaker 13 (32:24):
And so and they go this kind of creamy caramel color,
and you think, oh, they don't look like Nicky's ones
in the book. But keep on cooking them and they
become this beautiful, rusty red color. And that is when
you know that they are truly cooked. I make them,
I do them like that.
Speaker 10 (32:41):
That's what I do.
Speaker 13 (32:42):
I roast them in the oven for maybe one or
two hours at one eighty and then I call them.
Only then do I attempt to take the core out,
because the core is really embedded in the flesh and
it's it's really hard to do when they're you know,
when they're raw. So wait till that, wait till they cooked,
and then spoon that core out, and then you've got
this beautiful fruit to either use with your musically in
the morning, or I'm going to say to you make
(33:03):
quince paste otherwise known as a membry, which is a
really beautiful thick preserve that they really favor in Spain
and Portugal. So that you have a little paste or
a little sort of square of this jelly and you
serve that with beautiful sharp cheeses like manchego, which is
a sheep cheese or parmesan or something like that, and
(33:24):
so absolutely beautiful. So I photographed these the other day.
The photographer looked, you know, I mean, he was kind
of into it.
Speaker 10 (33:30):
But then he had the cheese with the quidz past.
Speaker 13 (33:34):
It was like, oh my god, this is amazing. So
all right, here we go. So once you have baked them,
off and coored them.
Speaker 10 (33:42):
You then drain all the liquid off.
Speaker 13 (33:43):
You can use that for something else, mix it with
some soda water or something like that.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
It's delicious.
Speaker 13 (33:48):
Take your fruit and you want to pure it, and
then you.
Speaker 10 (33:51):
Want to weigh it.
Speaker 13 (33:52):
And why you want to weigh it, I mean you
could measure it out. I suppose you could do a
cup by cup, but then you want to find out
and you know, I had about one point five pages
of pure and I wanted to use seventy five percent
of that amount in sugar. Okay, So that's kind of
what it is. If you got a cup, you want
a cup of pure a, you want to use three
quarters of a cup of sugar, and good squeeze of
(34:15):
lemon juice they trip. There is also about one juicy
lemon per cup of quiz paste. And then you start
simmering at jack and you simmer it for about forty
five minutes, maybe to an hour, and as I say,
it'll go through those beautiful color changes, and it'll also
thicken up.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
It spits everywhere. So do it in a high sided.
Speaker 13 (34:35):
Pot if you can, and use a long handled spoon
to give it a stir every now and again. As
you go past and just on a sort of slow
to medium i'd say, and it'll all sort.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Of blip blip blip blip.
Speaker 10 (34:46):
Away in your kitchen and it's so lovely.
Speaker 13 (34:48):
And then pour it into a sandwich tin that you've
lined with perhaps some greastproof paper and let it set
and the fridge. I let it cure in the fridge
uncovered for you know, maybe even a week. You don't
have to do that, but it just I like the
consistency of it.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
And then you cut it into.
Speaker 10 (35:04):
Little squeeze wrap it up. It'll keep for over a year.
Speaker 13 (35:08):
Just put it in an ear type container in the fridge.
Speaker 15 (35:11):
Man.
Speaker 10 (35:11):
Every now and again you take.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
A few little slices or squeeze off it to sealve
with cheese, and it's just exquisite gets better over time.
Speaker 2 (35:19):
Yeah, a year is out impressive too, I mean, I know, yeah, rap, yeah, yeah,
that's great.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
That's great.
Speaker 13 (35:26):
I mean it's got all that sugar in it, and
it's got loads pitted in it and the quint so
you know, it preserves, you know, and keeps really well,
and it's the nicest gift in the world.
Speaker 6 (35:34):
I think.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, you go, you see where my heart flutter. No,
I can't see. I can't see why your heart was
a flutter. I think all of our hearts are fluttered
this morning. Next yeah, thank you for that. All right.
We will put that recipe for Nicky's Quint's paste up
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(36:57):
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As well as that our feature interview this morning, right
after the ten o'clock news, The Price of the Three,
The Pride of Auto Tuhy, the leading Light or one
of the leading lights from Littleton, Marlon Williams is going
to be with us. He's got a brand new album
(37:19):
called Fuddy ticker Wick. We want to get you in
the mood to have a listen to this. This is
my boy. You don't surf the mistake.
Speaker 14 (37:31):
This one.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
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Boy.
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Did you didn't live?
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Will you don't give it to.
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You?
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God, Oh.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Oh, how beautiful that is? O Turda. One of New
Zealand's finest voices, Marlon Williams, has just released his fourth
studio album. This one has written entirely into the or Maldi.
Marlon is, of course sing a songwriter who has collaborated
with the likes of Florence and the Machine, toured with
legends such as Bruce Springsteen, and bagged six New Zealand
(39:56):
Music Awards and an opera Silver Scroll. But for this album,
to f A t. Wickerwicka, he has returned to his
roots here in Altor. He joins us, this morning, cald A,
good morning to where Jack look you Mi, welcome to
the studio. To Fuddy ta WakaWaka. That means the messy house.
Speaker 4 (40:15):
Doesn't it tak Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the messy house. Yeah.
It's sort of a I guess I suppose on one level,
it's a sort of a metaphor for the the pains
and chaos of creation, and uh, you know how creation
comes out of comes out of disorder, and you know,
you just you have a house full of of ideas
(40:37):
and you sort of sit quietly and let them talk
to each other and then hopefully they they formed some
sort of cohesive thing.
Speaker 2 (40:46):
Okay, explain that to us more. What do you mean
it's a it's a metaphor. So you basically had your
feeling like things were a bit scrambled, and this is
this has been a process of clarifying.
Speaker 6 (40:55):
Man.
Speaker 4 (40:55):
Yes, you know, I think it's that speaks to the
fact you've got to let you've got to let the
chaos sit for a while before and and and not
try and impose any too much will on them, let
on things before they before they've had a time to
speak to each other and sort of arrange themselves.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Okay. What is striking to many about the album is
this is your first full album entirely in Todel. Marty
tell us about that decision.
Speaker 4 (41:22):
Yeah, well, it's been around, It's been around in my
head for a while. The idea of doing it, you know,
I grew up speaking a little bit, went to Kwangadel,
but it all sort of drifted away from me again
as I went into my moved on into my childhood,
into primary school. But I always was always singing and
(41:44):
Marty and you know, it's just such a beautifully beautiful
song language. So I always knew at some point that
I was going to come back around and give myself
an excuse to be able to sing sing in Todell.
And yet twenty nineteen came along and I sort of
was in between writing records and the first sort of
(42:06):
first came out came came to me, which was which
is the first single? And I born in a collaborator
and a fellow little Tonian, a rapper and today or
Marty teacher named Commy and so they, yeah, they helped me,
grace very gracious sleep to put the album together and
(42:28):
then yeah, we just sort of wrote over the next
few years and then recorded at the end of twenty
twenty three and now we're we're releasing.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
So if you compare where your Marty's at today with
where it was in say twenty eighteen or started twenty nineteen, like,
do you feel like you've you've got a more intimate
relationship with the all.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
It's getting there, it's you know, it's it's a very
humbling process.
Speaker 2 (42:52):
So there is there are a few things more humbling
than learning a language. But I can imagine as someone
with Marty fucker Pupper like it takes on another kind
of level.
Speaker 4 (43:02):
Yeah, there's there's lots of there's lots of layers going
on there, but you know, it's yeah, I've still got
I've still got a lot a long way to go
on the journey. But writing, writing in the language, and
and and you know, and working with working with the collaborator,
a proficient collaborator. Was Yeah, it was a really nice
step along the way.
Speaker 2 (43:23):
You said that you grew up singing in Maudi a lot,
so so in what context was.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
That there was that every year we'd have the kita
who who we are to, which would be at various
various muddi around the takua down there, and yeah, every
year Mum and I would get in get in her
old Volvo and and Kram learn all this all the
songs that we're going to be sung, which were a beautiful,
beautiful wiater from down there. There's songs by the Craft
(43:49):
Sisters and and other other great composers that have come
out of out of Kota. Who So, yeah, it was,
it was that was always there as a at least
in musical form.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
And so how would you learn it? She would just
teach you.
Speaker 4 (44:03):
We we had there were tapes. There were there were
cassette apes that we play in the car and go
get getting old.
Speaker 2 (44:10):
No, no, that's amazing.
Speaker 4 (44:12):
But yeah, so it was, you know, it was, it
was great. It was just it would take a good
you know sometimes that I would be five hours away,
so it five hours to just play it over and over.
Speaker 15 (44:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
I was gonna say, if you're in if you're in
like Autoitaian christ Church and you've got to go to
or it's only like an hour or so, then.
Speaker 4 (44:29):
We might extrift to prep Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:30):
You're stuff on Little River for a couple of hours
on the way.
Speaker 4 (44:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Isn't that amazing how you can reflect on things like
that and it you know, I don't know how you
felt about it at the time, but it turns out
to be quite a foundational thing in your in your life,
you know, like, yeah, the kind of you know, in
the moment, you don't think about oh, you don't think
I'm learning anything here. You don't think that this is
something that's necessarily super meaningful or you know, matters that
(44:55):
much in my life. But then you look back on
it after twenty or thirty years and you go, I'm like, god,
actually that was quite significant.
Speaker 4 (44:59):
Well it's yeah, I think that's the directness of music too.
You know, it's just it's it's Music's just there and
it's compelling and it's and it draws you in. So
it was just and obviously you know, it was very
very into music as a child, so it just it
just it took me on and it never you know,
I've been singing those songs at least in my head
(45:21):
ever since. For sure.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Is your mam a good singer.
Speaker 4 (45:23):
Yes, he's a great singer. Yeah, he's got a lovely,
lovely soprano. Oh that's not.
Speaker 6 (45:29):
So.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
Leading up to U, say, twenty nineteen, because you've seen
this album's taken about five years to kind of organize,
it struck me that you were like living the kind
of international jet set of life and a good way.
I mean, you were traveling the world, experiencing all these
different cities and cultures and playing and all sorts of
amazing places and stuff. Why do you think that process
has ultimately ended up with you really focusing on your
(45:54):
place here.
Speaker 4 (45:56):
I think it's a few reasons that. Yeah, I think
it was a general desire to be to be home.
You know. Obviously COVID came in the middle of that
and to further further consolidated that feeling. And you know,
I think, yeah, it's just it's just been there as
a sort of yawning chasm in my in my I guess,
(46:20):
in some sense of my self knowledge, you know. So
it was, yeah, it was it felt it just felt inevitable, inevitable.
I didn't I didn't know when it was going to happen,
but it just, yeah, it just felt like all things
get all things considered, that this was there was the
right time to do it.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
Yeah, yeah, it was going to happen at some point,
and you felt like you kind of owed it to
yourself at some point, but you need.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
To get there and yeah, and it's yeah, it's just
as I say, it's just another excuse to be able
to hang out at home and just yeah, spend time
in this beautiful country.
Speaker 2 (46:48):
Yeah, there's I don't know who it was it was
like T Lawrence or someone had this phrase about traveling
or was quote about traveling that I always liked. It's
a bit cheesy, but it definitely rings true in my experience,
and it was that the more a man travels, the
more he learns about his own home, but the more
perspective get it on the world in different cultures and
places and all of that, the one place you learned
(47:10):
the most about is home because you were able to contextualize.
Speaker 4 (47:14):
Totally it's going on. I definitely definitely felt that, you know,
and I also think conversely, you've got to go away
to appreciate a way to appreciate it, to be able
to contextualize it. You know, I don't think it's I
think it's no use telling a disgruntled teenager that that
(47:34):
they've got that they live in the best place in
the world and that there's no point in them traveling,
because it's a lie. But it's also true that they'll,
you know, they'll more more often than not, they'll fall
back in love with with home again. Yeah, and that
was your experience, Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, I have always loved
it here, but definitely, yeah, crystallized from from all those
(47:56):
years of traveling.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
You mentioned, and you mentioned and when I listened to it,
the first single from the album, it just sounded so
much like the kind of sixties show band stuff. And
then I saw afterwards that that's exactly what it kind
of inspired that sound. So have you been listening to
a lot of that kind of music?
Speaker 4 (48:15):
Yeah, I mean I grew up on Elvis and and
the Platters and and you know all those and in
Howard Morrison Quartet more locally people like that. So yeah,
it's that's always been there in my you know, in
my listening habits. And I think, yeah, Marya is a language,
like the pure phonetics of it just lend themselves so
(48:37):
beautifully to that that style of singing. And you know,
there's this I think there's a sort of a there's
a correlation globally with indigenous cultures and crooner's I've found. Yeah, yeah,
I think, you know, there's there's lots of all. You know,
there's a there's a real big crooning crooning scene over
in Australia. Yeah, I've just I've always noticed that there's people, Yeah,
(49:02):
people from indigenous cultures tend to love to warble.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
That's interesting.
Speaker 10 (49:07):
What do you think that is.
Speaker 4 (49:08):
I don't know, it's something in the I don't know
that the just some sort of alignment of passion. I guess, yeah,
but it's I don't know. For me, it's it's a happy,
happy marriage because I've yeah, I love that, love that stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:20):
Okay, just think off the top of my head. Could
it be that a lot of indigenous cultures aren't driven
by the same kind of like urgency of like of
modern life, like like you know, like well, like we're
so always in a rush for everything, and I feel
like I feel like indigenous cultures even the way that
(49:42):
we think about like tow Maldi kind of contextualizes everything
in a over longer time timespans. And I wonder if
being able to slink sing slowly kind of reflects that
maybe I'm thinking too deep.
Speaker 4 (49:53):
No, I mean that's good. Let's get into ISNA musicology.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Yeah, play, or or just simply that the a lot
of Indigenous languages are more poet I.
Speaker 4 (50:04):
Think, yeah, maybe there's I think there's a sense of
romance and and sort of yeah, like a of a
version of or a vision of beauty as it's as
it's in terms of singing. That's that, Yeah, they're just
closely aligns and I love I love for for nice things,
for pretty things.
Speaker 2 (50:24):
You know, you see has got a big crooning scene.
What does a what does a big crooning scene look like? Oh?
Speaker 4 (50:30):
I just you know, you just going to go into
some of those remote Aboriginal communities and and if you go,
if there's a karaoke machine, then you know, I think
it's from what from my experience, people over there are
singing Freddy Fender in the same way that they are. Yeah,
you know, like that that that heart hearty rat, passionate singing.
Speaker 2 (50:51):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so you I mean, this is an album,
it's a docco it's a tour as well. To talk
us through the touring process, because I mean you're playing
some diverse places from Moydocky to New.
Speaker 4 (51:07):
York, right, Yeah, yeah, I mean it's there's a lot
of a lot of different people I want to be
able to perform in front of. And yeah, I'm really
curious to you know, it's all music when you put
it out and you perform it in different places, the songs,
the song shift depending on the context of you know,
where you're playing, and certainly going to be true of
(51:29):
this record I think, you know, it's obviously playing to Yeah,
playing to a bunch of my Fino and moduky, it's
going to be different to playing at it in a
bar and Lower East Side. So yeah, I just I'm
I'm always fascinated to find out how how things resonate
differently in different spaces, and yeah, with this this example,
I'm yeah, it's going to be to be very interesting.
Speaker 2 (51:51):
Yeah, how do you how do you anticipate an album
entirely into or Mardi is going to translate to to
New York or LA or London.
Speaker 4 (52:01):
I think I think, you know, as a as a
as a world where I'm becoming more use to not
not needing to understand everything all that literally all the time,
you know, And I think, yeah, which is a very
positive thing and just as well because it's you know,
(52:21):
everyone's knowledge of the world is expanding at a terrifying rate,
so there's just so much information to take in. But
I think people, yeah, my experiences, people genuinely are are
more and more receptive to hearing things and in other languages.
Speaker 2 (52:39):
Finally, then if this album has been a process of
kind of organizing your own place and identity in your
own mind, at the very least, what has changed over
the last five years about the way you kind of
see yourself?
Speaker 4 (52:54):
Of course a big question. I'm not sure. Yeah, damn,
I don't know. Things. Things change so quickly. For me, said,
I definitely struggle with trying to like work out work
out my my identity of a time, my die chronic identity.
(53:15):
You know, it's I honestly couldn't tell you. I couldn't
tell you who I was yesterday.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Do you feel like it's Do you feel like you've
kind of reached a conclusion though, if if the if
it was to t Wicker Wicker to start with, is
it any less today? No?
Speaker 4 (53:31):
I think there is. There is for pragmatic purposes, you know,
I've got to present something to the world, and and
you know, but nothing's ever finished, is Yeah. I think
it's pretty pretty natural to sort of get to the
end of a project and and be healthily dissatisfied, you know,
and just because it gives you, it spoons you on
(53:53):
to find the next next spark of things.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
Yeah, well, congratulations on the album. I really hope you
enjoy the touring experience, and yeah, look forward to seeing
you so so good. That is is Marlon Williams. Tiff
Fuddy t wicker Wika is out now and the documentary
about the creation of the album is coming out at
the start of May. So the documentary is called Our Ruer,
(54:16):
which means two Worlds. It's going to be in Cinema's nationwide.
Marlin's going to be on tour across the country throughout
May and June. He's heading heaps and heaps of different places,
and we're going to have all the details up on
the news talks he'db website now before eleven o'clock. We
are in the garden. Plus tips from our doctor on
how to avoid damaging your achilles tendon. It feels like
(54:37):
one of those things that's coming for all of us.
In middle Age, you hear stories about people playing so
your sport when all of a sudden they hear the
pop and then they're out down for the count. Anyway,
he's got some advice on how to avoid injuries to
your achilles, the kind of stretches and things you need
to do to keep warm. Make sure you don't do
the damage that can put you in a moonboot for
months in a worst case scenario. We've got your screen
(54:58):
time picks shows to watch and stream at home for
you next. Right now, it is twenty two minutes past ten.
I'm Jack Taman. This is Newstalks, z'db aren't.
Speaker 3 (55:06):
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Twenty five past ten on your Saturday morning, which means
it's screen time time brap r up how screen time
expert Tara Award is here with her three shows to
watch your recommend this week yolda Tara, Good morning, Jack Okay.
I don't know how to say this name, so I'm
hoping you're going to help me out with this. Our
first show this morning is streaming on TV and z plus.
(55:35):
Is it burgerak bergerak bergerac is not sophisticated like U
Tara Okay is streaming on TV and z Plus. This
is a bit of a reboot of a British drama,
so tell us about it.
Speaker 10 (55:49):
Yeah, yeah, this is Burgerai.
Speaker 17 (55:50):
This was a huge British crime drama series that ran
for ten years in the nineteen eighties. Had a very
iconic theme song, and We'll sit on the island of Jersey,
and it was about a detective called Jim Bergerac who
was a very skilled detective but quite troubled personally, like
nearly all TV detectives, and you know, people just kept
getting killed in mysterious circumstances on Jersey. So this new reboot,
(56:14):
which has just come to TVNZ plus, is paying tribute
to the original show, but it's still very much a
new series. They've carried through a few of the details.
Bergerax still has trouble with alcohol, he still drives a
very nice car, and it's still filmed in this beautiful location.
But otherwise this is much darker and slower than the original.
(56:35):
Bergeack's wife has just died, he's raising a teenage daughter,
and I think it's maybe missing a bit of the
charm of the original. It feels quite sort of tried
and true for a British crime drama. So if you
did love the original, don't go into this thinking it's
going to be exactly the same.
Speaker 10 (56:51):
But if you do like a quieter.
Speaker 17 (56:53):
Detective series, it's a bit slower, and it's got that
beautiful setting, which is a format that works really.
Speaker 6 (56:58):
Well for British drama. It just kind of gets repeated
over and over again.
Speaker 10 (57:02):
This is definitely worth a life.
Speaker 2 (57:03):
Okay, very good really herself with that, So I'm sorry.
That's on TV and Z Plus. Also on TV and
Z Plus. Am I being unreasonable?
Speaker 10 (57:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 17 (57:14):
This is a gem of a series that I've only
just started watching but have been really enjoying it. It's
an award winning British series that starts out as a
comedy and then turns into a thriller. It was created
by Daisy May Cooper and Selene Heasley, who both star
in this. Daisy May Cooper plays Nick, who is a
mum and a wife. She's quite lonely. She's having an affair.
(57:35):
She has this deep secret that she can't tell anyone,
and she makes friends with a new school mom called Jen,
and they become fast friends. You know, it looks like
this friendship could be the answer at all of Nick's problems.
But then Gen is not everything she seems, and Maybe's
next secret is not going to stay secret for much longer.
(57:55):
And what I really liked about this series is that
it plays with different genres. So one moment it's a
dark comedy, the next it's got all these twists and
turns of a mystery. It's sort of heartwarming and sad
and funny at the same time. And about halfway through
it changes perspective. You see the story from a different viewpoint,
so it keeps us on our toes. It's having fun
with that format without giving us all the answers at once,
(58:17):
so you know, quite unpredictable. I've nearly finished season one
and I've got no idea where it's going to go,
so I really like that. It's clever and smart, and
two seasons are on TVZ Plus.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Cracking Okay, cool, that sounds great? Am I being unreasonable?
On Prime Video? Last One Laughing UK?
Speaker 17 (58:35):
Yeah, the show has been all over my social media
feed this week and it's my pick. If you're looking
for something silly and ridiculous to enjoy this weekend. This
is Last One Laughing UK, which is an international format,
but the UK version has just dropped on Prime Video.
The show takes ten comedians and puts them in like
a Big Brother type house with lots of cameras for
(58:55):
six hours, and in that six hours, there's only one
rule that they're not allowed to laugh.
Speaker 10 (59:01):
If you laugh, you're out of the game.
Speaker 17 (59:02):
So each comedian is trying to get everyone else to
laugh without laughing themselves. And I think what makes the
British version so good as the comedians they've got on board.
That's hosted by Jimmy Carr and Mashen Connete. You've got
Bob Mortimer, Richard Aoardi, Daisy mc cooper, Joe Wilkinson, lots
of comedians who already do that dead pan, straight faced
(59:23):
comedy already, so I think that probably helps them. But
lots of familiar faces from panel shows like What I
Lie to You and Task Masters, So if you like
those shows, you're like this.
Speaker 10 (59:33):
It's a very low stakes.
Speaker 17 (59:34):
I don't want to oversell it because some of the
things they do to make the people laugh are just
so over the top. But it's a really simple idea
that works, and it's just a bit of fun. If
you want cheering up and nothing more, this will do it.
Speaker 2 (59:45):
It just sounds so good. It's such a simple concept
day and there's something about the kind of British comedians
I think that really makes a show like that work. Hey,
very quickly, My pick for this week is Happiness, and
I saw that you wrote a great review of it
on the spin off US today, So this is on
Thursdays on TV three and three now, and I'm going
(01:00:07):
to declare a bit of a conflict of interest. It
is made by a couple of mates of mine, so
I do have some bias going into it now. But
here's the thing. I went along and I saw the
first three episodes, and I at first it took me.
It took me about ten or fifteen minutes to get
into it. So at first I was like, oh, I'm
not totally sure. And then once I've just given it
ten to fifteen minutes, I thought, this is fantastic. It's
(01:00:27):
basically it's a comedy set in Tow Dunger, of all places,
and it's a kind of musical theater comedy. And when
I say musical theater comedy, musical theater in a very
meta sense in that it is a kind of cross
between Glee and you know, and like in a kind
of American comedy perhaps Set Set. Yeah, yeah, exactly, Set
(01:00:51):
said and said in Tow Hunger, and yeah, I already
enjoyed it.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 17 (01:00:55):
It's our first New Zealand musical sitcom, which I think
is really really cool and ambitious and creative, and they've
done a beautiful job.
Speaker 10 (01:01:03):
It's full of joy and energy. The music because great.
Speaker 17 (01:01:06):
You know, you kind of find yourself humming along to
it and tapping your toes and it's just lovely to
watch something that is light and fun and wholesome and
definitely very in New Zealand.
Speaker 10 (01:01:17):
It's it's it's a really cool show.
Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, totally agree. Hey, thank you very much, Tara. We
will get to you again next week. All of Tara's
screen time picks will be on the News Talks EDB website.
Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday Morning with Jack team
on News Talks EDB.
Speaker 16 (01:01:37):
And I think it's gonna be a long, long time
Don't run again, fum.
Speaker 2 (01:01:58):
Elton John might have retired from touring in twenty twenty three,
but it does not mean he is any less active
as a recording artist. And he's just a brand new
album in collaboration with Americana artist Brandy Carlyle. The album's
called Who Believes In Angels. It was delayed a little
bit because Elton experienced a pretty serious health scier last
year and he's since talked about losing the majority of
(01:02:21):
his vision Since then, not slowing down has not been
much of an option. And you know, he's sort of
developed a reputation over the years of championing and supporting
rising artists throughout their careers. So he and Brandy first
collaborated way back in two thousand and nine on her
song Caroline. He made the acceptance call himself when the
(01:02:43):
request came through for that and for good reason, because
since then Brandy has become a Grammy winner. They collaborated
again last year for his documentary on the track never
Too Late and Anyway. We're gonna have a bit of
a listened before midday to the new album. Our music
reviewer Estelle has been listening to it as well, so
we'll make sure we save a bit of time before
(01:03:03):
midday to day to pick out a couple of tracks
and share those with you as well as that after
eleven o'clock this morning. We always say that our travel
correspondent has one of the toughest gigs in the broadcasting business,
and he is really rubbing things and our faces. This morning,
he has tracked down the world's largest chocolate fountain, so
I'm going to tell you where you can find that.
(01:03:25):
After eleven this morning, our texperts in in a couple
of minutes twenty four to eleven non news dog ZB.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
Putting the tough questions to the newspakers, The mic asking breakfast.
Speaker 18 (01:03:34):
It's new world of terroriffs. What happens next? Does it
reshape global trade? Former US Department of Treasury economist Bread
Setster is with us.
Speaker 7 (01:03:41):
It's a shockingly radical shift in policy. He increased tarots
on our host of trading partners by more than x
fact there.
Speaker 18 (01:03:49):
Do you expect what happens to be followed by a
lot of phone calls? And what we're seeing is not
what we'll see in a couple of months.
Speaker 7 (01:03:54):
There's still that of tariffs that are in the works
that haven't yet been imposed.
Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
So on one hand, we know there are more terrorifts.
On the other hand, the clear.
Speaker 7 (01:04:02):
Signal is that you're negotiating the tariff down, you're not
going to get the terror taken off.
Speaker 18 (01:04:07):
Back Monday from six am, the Mike asking breakfast with
the rain driver of the last news talk zby.
Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
The fallout from Donald Trump's tariffs across the world continues
to escalate. The Chinese other night announcing that they would
introduce retaliatory tariffs. I think New Zealand's tariff's kick off
at about midnight tonight. But our textbit Paul Steinehouse is
here with the details on a couple of the big
companies already feeling the effects of Donald Trump's new policy.
(01:04:36):
And Paul Apple is going to take a beating.
Speaker 19 (01:04:40):
Yeah, going to and already has two Jack. I was
just looking at the numbers just today, closed down seven
point three percent the last five days. It's down thirteen
percent on the past six months. It's almost down seventeen percent.
It's pretty But here's the one thing I did notice though,
(01:05:00):
if you go back to look at over the past year,
it's still up eleven percent, So I mean it is
a correction.
Speaker 10 (01:05:06):
I I guess.
Speaker 19 (01:05:06):
Still I'm not a financial person really, but you know
we're not down, down, down yet, We're still down.
Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Camp were still the market cap of Raffle is still
pretty impressive. Yeah, like two point nine trillion dollars.
Speaker 19 (01:05:17):
So it's ridiculous, right, But I mean this is where
like Apple's just taken the real beating because I mean,
the first time around, when Donald Trump was an office,
they started to move some of their production to Vietnam.
The Vietnam's tariffs are at forty six percent, are at
fifty four percent, so they just can't win there. But
it's like you for the consumers in the US, I mean,
(01:05:39):
the only good news is that some of these companies
have seen this coming. They've pulled as much inventory into
the United States as they possibly can. And of course
the tariffs don't apply until the product crosses the border, right.
Speaker 3 (01:05:51):
So it's already in the country.
Speaker 19 (01:05:52):
You're good, But obviously that inventory will run out. And
what we're really looking to see with Apple, and this
is why there's just so much uncertainty with investors, is
how much of this will be passed on to the consumer.
On the Trump I think actually came and said, you know,
he's been talking to the big tech companies and he's
they've reassured them they're not going to pass it on. Well,
(01:06:12):
I mean, that still doesn't really help with the stock price,
because if they do increase the prices and put that
onto consumers, Apple's going to feel that because the assumption
will be that revenue will decrease, right because people are
probably going to hold onto their devices for longer. They're
just not going to have maybe as much discretionary spending.
But they're also hammered that if they take this on with,
(01:06:35):
you know, to take it out of their profit margin
two or their profits then get crushed. They don't have
as much capital to invest. Potentially, it's they don't really
win at all, and it's just this uncertainty. And it's
the uncertainty too. I don't know if you saw that
this week, but Nintendo Jack are putting out a brand
new Switch, the Switch too, but now they don't.
Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
Know what they're going to do.
Speaker 19 (01:06:57):
They've halted their pre orders on this new console that
was supposed to start in the US April nine because
they said, and this is the direct quote, the company says,
they are taking the step in order to assess the
potential impact of tariffs and evolving market conditions.
Speaker 10 (01:07:13):
So they don't even want to sell the thing.
Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
That's amazing. So presumably they've already sold some right, and
now because of the tariffs they might have to increase
the price.
Speaker 19 (01:07:23):
They may have to increase the price, which means they're
oh yeah, and stopping the pre orders in the United States.
And they're only announced the new Switched like a couple
of days ago, and before they could even start the
pre order, they said, actually, in the US, we're going
to hold that. So they're saying that the console is
still going to be for sale and be released generally
on June fifth, with the data unchanged and the price unchanged.
(01:07:45):
But I guess all of that is you have to admit,
or have to expect, is subject to change.
Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Yeah, and just on that.
Speaker 19 (01:07:53):
The switch is probably something that's been talked about in
people's households if they have young people. It's been hugely popular.
They sold like one hundred and fifty million of the
first Switch Jack. Yeah, but the reviews about the Switch
to are awesome. It's fast, awesome, it's a bit bigger,
the screen's a bit bigger, but not so awesome. The
price is going up yeah, and even more Yeah, yeah, yeah,
(01:08:13):
maybe even more so. I think it's going to be
in New Zealand if it's on Christmas wish lists, like
eight hundred dollars.
Speaker 3 (01:08:19):
Oh yeah, I know.
Speaker 19 (01:08:21):
But there's some new Mario Kart games and you're going
to play it now with up to twenty four people.
Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
So it's kind of like lost.
Speaker 19 (01:08:27):
But there's a real uncertainty around just everything. And I
even heard, you know, this is me geeking out today.
I listened into the fench hears Q and a he
was doing with reporters, and all the questions were just
about uncertainty. Uncertainty, uncertainty, uncertainty. What do people do with uncertainty?
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Yeah, fascinating times. Thanks Paul. At least we've got new
Mario Kart games. Paul Stenhouse our textpit there before eleven
o'clock we're in the garden. But doctor Brian Beatty is
here next with one of those middle aged things. You
really want to avoid damage to your are Kelly's tendon?
What can we do to prevent it? Seventeen to eleven.
Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
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Zb quarter to eleven non news dog z B. Doctor
Brian betties with us this morning on one of those
injuries that any of us who happen to battle away
in social sports dreads are ruptured. R Kelly's tendon. So, Brian,
what actually is the Arkelley's tendon?
Speaker 20 (01:09:27):
Yeah, Hijack, Well, look, it's actually the largest strongest tendon
in the human body. Now, it's a fibrous cord that
is a bit of a rope type thing that attaches
the back of our calf muscle of the lower leg
to our heel, so you can actually feel it at
the back of your ankle. It feels like like a
rope or a bit of a cord at the back
(01:09:47):
of your ankle. And it is absolutely critical to walking,
running and jumping, so very very important in terms of
our movement.
Speaker 2 (01:09:56):
Okay, yeah, it's absolutely vital, isn't it. But it's one
of those things that you hear people hear about people
injuring all the time. How do we actually damage it?
Speaker 20 (01:10:04):
Yeah, well, look, yeah, you do hear about doors time.
You hear about in top level sports people that they've
done their achilles tender. And so the commonest situation is
an act of sport, So that's things like rugby, soccer,
and basketball. And the reason it happens is that the
achilles ruptures or tears apart with forceful movements such as
(01:10:25):
sprinting or jumping or quick stops and changes a movement,
or the other place that occurs if you get direct
trauma to the ankle. So you could imagine that happens
in a rugby tackle or at the bottom of a
ruck where it gets bashed and it can suddenly tear apart. Now,
the other place that occurs is with older people. So
as you get older, it tends to get a bit afraid,
(01:10:45):
a bit weaker, and it can rupture with the slightest
things like a slight trip on a curve or something.
It can cause it to pull apart because it does
weakend as we get older. So yeah, those are probably
the two big places where it occurs.
Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
What are the symptoms.
Speaker 20 (01:11:01):
Yeah, so look, if it happens, you know it's happened.
So look, it's a very, very sudden the sharp pain
at the back of the lower leg or heel, and
often a company by a popping or a snapping sound.
So that's what people describe. They said, I heard this
sort of snap that actually occurred, and you are suddenly
unable to walk. And the critical one is you can't
(01:11:22):
stand on tipy toes, so tiptoes you cannot do it.
There's marks swelling at the bottom of the back of
the leg, and sometimes you can actually feel if you
polp take down the cord, you can actually feel a
gap or an indent at where the ruptures occurred, so
you can actually feel it sometimes. But the big thing is.
You can't walk on this thing, and you can't stand
(01:11:43):
on tiptoes. It's just impossible.
Speaker 21 (01:11:45):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
Does it continue to be painful after the excellent incident?
Or is it once it's erupted and popped? Is it
kind of does the pain subside a bit?
Speaker 14 (01:11:53):
No?
Speaker 20 (01:11:53):
No, No, it's very painful and people come limping into
the surgery until you start to get into it what's
called a moon boot or definitive treatment. So no, So initially,
if it does occur, get ice onto it, rest it up,
don't walk on it, and start to take some pain
relief like parasital over brief and until you can see
the doctor.
Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Okay, once you do see the doctor, what happens.
Speaker 20 (01:12:13):
Yes, Look, we generally examine it. We do this very
particular test where we get you to kneel on the
bed and we squeeze your calf muscle in and if
the tendon is intact, we can see the foot or
the ankle move, but if it's not, it just doesn't move,
so we know that it's ruptured. And sometimes we feel
down we can feel this indient. So if that happens,
we generally get an ultrasound or an MRI to see,
(01:12:33):
look how bad is it. Has it fully ruptured or
partially just torn? And if we know that's the case,
is generally two things we can do about it. Now,
if you're older, you're not an athlete and it's not
so time critical, we will generally put you in a
what's called a moon boot, which provides some support to
the ankle, get to start to walk around on it
(01:12:54):
raises a heel and you'll be in that for about
six months, so it starts to heel itself up and
often it'll do that, so it's very good at doing that. However,
for those younger people, especially those top level athletes, they
end up seeing an orthopedic surgeon and within two weeks
we'll have an operation on the tender itself so to
try and sew it back together again. And once that's done,
(01:13:17):
your recovery time you're probably looking at three to six
months before you're fully recovered up about requires rehab, physio,
quite an extensive program to get you back and running.
So look, if it happens, it's it's not great, but
you do get better at the end of it, but
it takes some time.
Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
It's so miserable, isn't it so is there anything I
can do just to avoid it? I mean, I just
don't get old. I guess it's the key.
Speaker 20 (01:13:41):
Well, well, don't get old and don't play rugby or soccer.
Speaker 15 (01:13:44):
Yeah yeah, so yeah, no, look.
Speaker 20 (01:13:47):
Look I'm staying fit, all those things, warm ups before
you play sport. Staying fit, you know, is really really important.
But occasionally it's just one of those things that occurs.
Speaker 2 (01:13:59):
Okay, all right, Hey, thank you so much, Brian. Appreciate
your time as always, doctor Brian. Betty There, it's ten
to eleven. We're in the garden next on News Dogs.
Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
He be gardening with still Sharp free autumn upgrades on
Still's best sellers.
Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Route Climb Past is our man in the garden. He's
with us now Counder Road.
Speaker 6 (01:14:17):
Kyoda Jack. Do you do bulbs at all?
Speaker 2 (01:14:20):
I don't really do bombs. I don't do I really
do balls, but I do. I mean, I'm I'm a
kentab throw and through. So I do appreciate a good effodil,
you know, Can we put it that way? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (01:14:31):
Any good tulip?
Speaker 14 (01:14:32):
Yeah no, I was just going to say otherwise, I'll
just have a check to Nikola Willis.
Speaker 6 (01:14:37):
She's always on about green shoots.
Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
So I thought, yeah, very good.
Speaker 6 (01:14:41):
God, I can't believe that's linking English. But anyway that
I can, if.
Speaker 2 (01:14:46):
Anyone it's you, I can. I don't. Don't make surprise,
don't discuss it in yourself. Come on, d we know
how to works.
Speaker 6 (01:14:55):
I know I know how it works.
Speaker 22 (01:14:57):
Anyway, But actually it is an idea to talk about
this because what you're doing now with bolts like tulips now, sisters,
croakers and all the other things they call you, they're
all on the we so of course, but here's the
thing you are now starting to work ahead for spring.
Speaker 14 (01:15:11):
Yes, yeah, you know it makes sense, say yeah, so
it's the growth of your home literally that you're looking
at the planet and everything. So tulip's very simple. Oh,
by the way, good story. But that story about tulips.
Do you remember the sixteen hundreds?
Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
I don't, but I know what you're referencing.
Speaker 14 (01:15:33):
Tulip pop cost three thousand florins. It's like three thousand.
Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
It was the bitcoin of the of the sixteen hundreds, right,
it was.
Speaker 14 (01:15:44):
A and that's well, the yearly wages of craftsman was
about three hundred florins a year unbelievable. Anyway, that burst
of course after thirty seven thirty eight years anyway.
Speaker 6 (01:15:56):
That's that's the way. But now we can have and
there's some really cool ones.
Speaker 14 (01:16:01):
By the way, those funny tulips that they were trading
at the time were basicallyvirus ridden versions of them, and
the viruses gain these wonderful colors.
Speaker 4 (01:16:11):
Yeah, this is actually quite that isn't rare?
Speaker 14 (01:16:14):
Yeah, okay, And to this day we still have tulips
with some of these funny little viruses in them. So
you can do anything you like with you. I just
want to say, go and get and have a look around.
Beautiful stuff to have.
Speaker 6 (01:16:28):
Easy to do.
Speaker 14 (01:16:29):
You work the soil twenties centimeters deep and you chuck
them in because those globs of course, like well drained soils.
You don't want them too wet because they start to rot.
A Yeah, yeah, it's important now nice it's the same
thing you were talking about it, especially Hagley Park, you
know what I mean. Daffodils, The roots, by the way,
go way down. So you prepare the soil for about
(01:16:51):
forty centimeters deep, but there are only ten centimeters in
terms of the depth of planting them. Full sun is
fine crocus. Here's another one I like. Crocus is absolutely wonderful,
beautiful smells, of course. And then there's this weird crocus
called ceffron, which reminds me of those tubes of the
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sixteen hundreds. Because cept from of course, there's an extremely
expensive material you can put in you in your food
there you but because they are autumn flowers, you plant
them later in December March. You'll be too late for that, right,
And then loculium the snowflake. And but finally, because this
is important, you can actually hit most of those bulbs
(01:17:33):
in containers. And in containers they do well because you
can totally manage the not too much or too much
water systems in those containers.
Speaker 6 (01:17:44):
Beautiful to do that, mate, superb.
Speaker 2 (01:17:47):
I thank you very much. We'll make sure all of
those varietals and the photos are up on the website. Hey,
thanks for the tomato seeds they arrived this week as well.
Really appreciate that.
Speaker 6 (01:17:56):
Your job.
Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
Yeah, yeah, so don't worry. I'll do my best on
that front. Route climb past in the garden for us.
After leaven o'clock on News Talk, we've got new music
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Speaker 2 (01:19:04):
In a good morning. If you're just sitting on the radio,
Jack Tame with you on newstalks 'db through to midday today. Well,
it was Murphy's law, of course, an inevitable that'll teach
you for breaking one of the golden laws of parenting.
Never take off a nappy if you don't have a
replacement immediately to hand, especially when your six week old
(01:19:26):
baby has been stewing and straining and writhing in his
cot and double especially Yeah, that's the thing, when he
just had the live rotavirus vaccine and it's playing havoc
with his belly. It was just as I bent his
legs up and put a little squeeze on his stomach
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that I sensed it something in the air, a drop
in barometric pressure, maybe a little facial expression, a little twitch.
Perhaps it might have been two o'clock in the morning.
But I threw myself back and across the room, out
of the line of fire. It was kind of like
that scene in the Matrix where time stops and Neo
(01:20:08):
dodgers bullets, and you know in horror films when someone
has their throat slit and the blood sprays on the wall,
it's kind of a pattern, an arc, a kind of
parabola of Crimson gore. Well, it was like that, except
it was yellow, an explosion of you know what was
(01:20:30):
in his tummy one second, and literally dripping down the
wall the next, and the bin, and on the laundry basket,
and on the exposed floorboards, the corner of the chunky
walnut carpet. Somehow he got it through the crack of
the door to my wardrobe, a patina of tiny little
(01:20:51):
specks of yellow down on my shoes. The distance he
covered was actually unbelievable. I pulled out a tape measure
the next morning, just out of curiosity. From the change
table to the wall was ninety odd scene, so twice
his height in relative terms, It's as if I pulled,
twisted and strained, pulled my legs up and propelled my
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last meal across three and a half meters of open territory.
Give us world records, Give us a call. I hosed
him down, delivered him to his mum, fetched the disinfectant,
and started scrubbing the walls. The next morning, I put
him on the change table once again. This time he
wasn't squirming. This time, his tummy was a bit more settled.
(01:21:39):
As I redressed him and pulled on his onesie, I
sang to my son, and he stared up into my eyes.
It's our problem, free, I sang. His face changed just
a little as he could. Was that was that a smile? Phlasophy?
(01:22:03):
He squealed, Hakuna Matata. His whole mouth broke out in
a giant smile, no question, an unmistakable smile. His whole face,
his whole body seemed to smile with him.
Speaker 14 (01:22:21):
Just for me.
Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
I felt my chest flood with endorphins. It was the
craziest physical reaction, just this rush, this kind of sweep
of joy and love said it all, really dripping walls.
One day, his first smiles for Dad, the next, Welcome
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Before midday, we're going to play you some of Elton
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picks for this week as well. But right now, our
sustainability commentator Kate Hall aka Ethically Kate, is with us
this morning.
Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Kilder, what I love that story?
Speaker 2 (01:23:09):
Thanks, well, yeah, I like half of it, all ahead.
Speaker 10 (01:23:14):
Of you exactly exactly. I feel more prepared.
Speaker 2 (01:23:17):
Yeah, what I have. What I have not mentioned is
that I actually took photographic evidence of both elements, both
parts of that story. But yeah, I've been going into
the air brakes and showing Libby, my producer, the photographic
evidence because I feel like when I say he managed
to propel you know what, across like a meter of
open territory and on the walls, that people think I'm exaggerating,
(01:23:40):
I am not exaggerating. I am being one of the
role Anyway, you.
Speaker 6 (01:23:45):
Might have to send me the pick.
Speaker 22 (01:23:46):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
You gotta be careful what you wish for. But like
I say the smile and just you know, oh my gosh,
just everything else melts away. It's amazing. Anyway, you have
been over the last couple of months traveling around the
country in an EV. So just I want to hear
how it's been. I want to hear the ups and
the downs. I want you to be totally honest about
the limitations of Tuesday and EV for a nationwide trip.
(01:24:10):
But just recap us. How how far have you traveled?
Where have you been?
Speaker 23 (01:24:14):
So we started in Auckland on the fifth of February
and we traveled through Hamilton, Todonga, Topaur, down to Wellington, Nelson,
along the West coast in Graymouth, through to christ Church,
then Queenstown, Dunedin, up past back through christ Church, picked
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in Wellington, Napier and back home.
Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
That's a big So that's our trip, ye What to
me were you in?
Speaker 10 (01:24:47):
So for the first six weeks.
Speaker 23 (01:24:50):
We were in an ID five so Volkswag can lend
us at EV's to travel for our tours, which is
very grateful for And so yeah, there was ID five,
which is kind of a classic, kind of more sporty car.
And then for the last few weeks we were in
the id Buzz, which is kind of brand new to
New Zealand and very you know, inspired by the comb
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So that.
Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Was that was pretty cool.
Speaker 14 (01:25:15):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Okay then, so I mean the number one criticism, you know,
the number one concern that I suppose people raised when
it comes to long, long trips in an EV is
that you can't do it because you know, you run
out of you run out of range, and you run
out a battery. What was your experience with the charging
network as it stands? Can you do a long trip
in an EV?
Speaker 23 (01:25:37):
One hundred percent?
Speaker 5 (01:25:37):
You can?
Speaker 23 (01:25:38):
So this seemed honestly, it seemed easy to me this
year because you know, in twenty twenty five, charge net
has so many more different charging stations across the country
that you know they're establishing new ones all the time.
I did a similar route in twenty twenty in a
vehicle with a range of about two hundred and twenty kilometers.
Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Yeah, for six weeks, So you know that's five.
Speaker 23 (01:26:00):
Years ago, and that you know, like, honestly, there was
a few different moments of range anxiety and when you're
when you're trying to like enjoy your holiday, you know,
I understand that I understand people's hesitations. However, I think
we probably waited because that's also an element too, is
if someone's just arrived and they've started to charge their
car just before you, and you're a factored in, you know,
(01:26:24):
in half an hour to top up your car, but
someone just arrived, so that half an hour is going
to turn into an hour. Then I understand that that's frustrating.
But that only happened to.
Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Us like once two months, so pretty good, Yeah.
Speaker 23 (01:26:37):
Exactly, So we just rock up and like we were
hardly waiting it all. It meant that we were stopping
at where the charges were rather than kind of the
main spots that you'd stop when you're traveling around, So
you get to say like cool new places and really
kind of yeah quick little towns that little like local museums.
I honestly think it. Yeah, it added more to the trip.
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And it kind of also feels like it encourages you
to kind of slow down really enjoying you Zland and
not just have that easither just stop into a petrol
station and then continue on. You know, you're forced to
kind of more slowly.
Speaker 2 (01:27:15):
I think that I think there are a couple of
things I've observed not having done big road trips with
an EV. But so, first of all, there are kind
of two types of evs now, right. So you have
the ones that are designed for everyday commuting, so they
aren't have a massive range, they've only got maximum a
couple of hundred kilometers maybe, but they're designed to be
driven every day and driven in cities. And then you
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have evs that have the longer range and are more
appropriate for the kind of adventure you've been on. And
when you're driving one of those cars, you really want
to be in a position whereby your trip is not
being dictated by the absolute location of the charging stations, right,
So you want to be like we're going here, here,
and here, and we'll come across some charging stations on
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the way, as opposed to being like, right, we're going
to go from this charging station and then we're gonna
skip the charging station. And this I always think about,
you know, like the first aviators who you know, like
flew across the world or flew across the United States
and had to make sixty stops and that kind of thing,
and how you know they could fly twenty kilometers and
then they needed to find somewhere else to land. It's
sort of steams comparable. But I suppose, like you say,
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with the with the propensity of charging stations as they
are now, you don't need to kind of worry about that,
you know, as you did in the past, which is great. No,
So how much did it cost you?
Speaker 23 (01:28:31):
So I've been trying to add it up and I
don't know how exact kilometer and just you know kilometers,
how many we covered? That would have been clear of
me to clicked that on the car at the start
of the trip. Anyway, it cast around eight hundred and
fourteen dollars And that's charging at the fast charges, so
you can, you know, plug your car overnight and yeah,
(01:28:52):
you know, do a slow trickle. So that's like the
that's the most you're ever going to spend on charging
because you're at these super fast charges that you're only
stopping for. I think the max that we stopped at
was like forty five minutes.
Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Yeah, so did you come up I reckon that's charges?
Was that an issue?
Speaker 23 (01:29:10):
There was one place that had actually in Topau at
one point there were four charges there and like a
few of them were busy, and one of them was
was faulty and so but in that moment like it
because there was multiple charges there, that was fine because
it just meant there was less capacity for people to
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charge often there. And and like you said, it's if
you're passing through and you plan to stop at a
charger and it's full or it's faulty, you can just
go on to the next.
Speaker 10 (01:29:41):
One because it's not too far away.
Speaker 23 (01:29:43):
Yeah, so we were never kind of caught out or yeah,
kind of frustrated by it.
Speaker 2 (01:29:48):
And how do you feel about the batteries in the
battery debate? What happens to old batteries And.
Speaker 23 (01:29:55):
Yeah, so, I mean there's a lot of complications with
the mining of them and you know, supply chain and
where they're from, and we don't have that right. There's
totally some unethical and unstainable things that that we need
to figure out and we need to keep developing. But
with the battery, if the battery is no longer suitable
for a car, you know, especially with some of the
old leafs and older vehicles. Now the batteries, you know,
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they may have a range of seventy kilometers which can
get you caught out. Those can actually be used as generators.
So like on farms or battery backups for homes and
different things. So if they're not suitable for a car,
they're still suitable suitable for a lot of other different uses.
And there's different programs now where the batteries are able
to be picked apart and the different minerals, and yeah,
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elements of them are able to be taken apart, stripped
away from each other and used for other kind of
means and recycles.
Speaker 6 (01:30:52):
So yeah, so.
Speaker 23 (01:30:54):
It's kind of I think when you're driving in an
EV i've you know, I feel like you're kind of
open for that critique and criticism because you know, there's
a lot of complications around EV's. They are not the
be all, end all, like most sustainable way to travel,
Like we are still developing them, we're still changing things.
But I think like the fact that we are, you know,
(01:31:15):
we've come so far with our charging stations, with what
evs can do, with companies being more aware of the
ethical and sustainable side of things, Like we're learning and
we're evolving, and it's really cool to see that we're
not you know, we're not just like cool, this is
our new sustainable mode of transport that we're still developing.
The technology and it's important to have these conversations.
Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Ah, so good. Hey, thanks Kay. You can find Kate
of course by sitching on the social media platforms. She's
nine as ethically Kate. We'll put all those little notes
up on the news talks b website. Thank you very
much your feedback as well. Jack, your stories are fantastic.
Lucky little baby, says Chantel Jack. Babies love the freedom
of no nappies. Come on, you got to know that.
Let it all hang loose, sees muzz and Jack. Absolutely
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creaking story. Welcome to parent who just goes to show
it is absolute crap one minute and pure joy the next.
We have all been there, We've all got our version
of that. So welcome to the club. Thank you very much.
Appreciate that. Joing ninety two to ninety two. If you
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Speaker 15 (01:32:27):
I have a question for you April Son and Suba today.
Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Oh yes, how I feel about the Crusaders. Okay, Well,
here's the thing. Last week, and I think it's very
important when you are in the broadcasting slash punditory world
to own your errors and mistakes. Last week I was
speaking with Jason Pine and sort of in a very
sort of cocksure manner, dismissively spoke about more Una Pacific. Yeah,
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and do you know what I thought last week? They
were outstanding. I thought they were incredible. I thought they
were deserved. And it wasn't that I was willing them
all or supporting them necessarily, but I didn't feel poorly
about them getting up on the Crusaders. This evening, however,
I am cautiously optimistic. God, this afternoon, I'm cautiously optimistic
that the Crusaders will get up against the Druer and Suver.
(01:33:22):
But yeah, last week was a bit of a shock.
And the good thing about Super Rugby this season is
it does feel like so many teams could win games.
Speaker 15 (01:33:29):
Yes, I know, it's the surprise results which actually build
interest in the whole competition.
Speaker 6 (01:33:34):
Eight.
Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Yeah, absolutely, it's good for the good for the competition.
I think when you get these kind of results, so
and I'm very much looking forward to that but from
Suva to Switzerland and you focused on Zurich this morning.
It's sort of Switzerland's gateway city.
Speaker 1 (01:33:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Is it worth a couple of nights?
Speaker 15 (01:33:49):
I think so, Jack. Yeah. What I love about Zurich
airport is it's just so blissfully stress free. So I
was through all the bags and border control faith within
fifteen minutes. The train to the city center just a
ten minute ride. So it's such a great introduction to Europe,
you know, to shake off the jet lag while you're
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soaking up the lake and the mountains you're looking for
hiding in those twisting lanes of the medieval old town
and happily nibbling on Swiss goodies. Great way to start
a trip.
Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
Well, speaking of Swiss goodies, it's in the German speaking
side of Switzerland, right. Does that mean that the sausage
is a bit of a culinary draw It.
Speaker 15 (01:34:31):
Is wildly popular. Yeah. The street food tradition of Vorst
is just like staple diet hera a trip particularly for lunch.
So in the old town I went to this fantastic
place called Borsteria by Hymns and Cordons, and it's a
part butcher shop and part deli, but they do super cheap,
(01:34:54):
super spicy brut boss in a fluffy bun, really good,
cheap and easy takeaways. The other thing I noticed about
Zurich is they really like white sausage, which they call
vice VORs, and they serve it with a sweet mustard
that is so good. And because Zurich is a very
walkable city, I just think saucy has become your best friend.
(01:35:17):
You just snack away on those saucis. They'll keep you
going all day.
Speaker 2 (01:35:21):
Nit I mentioned chocolate in Easter.
Speaker 15 (01:35:25):
Oh my goodness. Yeah, take a stroll along barnhorf Strasser,
which is the swanky shopping street, and you've got to
pop into Cafe Springly, which is royalty in Zurich. They
are handcrafted chocolates. They are just exquisite works of art.
And of course the Easter chocolate displays at this time
(01:35:47):
of yeah, jack, next level, unbelievable. It's like a bespoke
art gallery in chocolate. And Zurich is also home to
LINT and you can visit their Home of Chocolate Interactive Museum,
which does a really good job actually just whipping you
through the whole story of Swiss chocolate making. You can
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graze quite generously on the white and milk and dark chocolates,
and best of all, the world's largest chocolate fountain, which
Gusha's thirty feet high. I actually went standing below it deck.
I had visions of Augustus Glue. I was going to say, yeah,
the fountains.
Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
It does feel very wonkery, doesn't it.
Speaker 14 (01:36:28):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:36:30):
Okay, So when I think of Switzerland, yes, I think
of chocolate, but I also think of FIFA. Is the
FIFA museum with a visit.
Speaker 15 (01:36:37):
It is funny story. FIFA only opens this museum about
nine years ago, and it was because they got fed
up with pesky football fans like Jack Tame loitering in
the lobby of the FIFA World headquarters. So they opened
up a museum and they've actually done a really good job.
The original FIFA World Cup trophy is there, so that's
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the one that was permanently awarded to Brazil after they
won the Cup for the third time in nineteen seventy.
They've got a replica of the current trophy, which contains
five kilograms of pure gold. It's estimated values apparently thirty
five million New Zealand dollars had a sane I've done
(01:37:23):
a really good job with the interactive stuff. So they've
got this games gallery and I can only describe it
sort of like a gigantic pinball machine which you find
yourself in the middle of and you have to test
your kicking skills. But it's like a pinball machine the
way it works. It's so cool. But obviously with all
whites booking their place at the next World Cup, yeah,
(01:37:46):
this museum is definitely something to add to your checklist.
Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
What is behind all the buzz in Zurich West.
Speaker 15 (01:37:54):
Yeah, it's a really interesting contrast to Old world Zurich.
So Zurich West was once a very scruffy industrial district
and it's just been transformed. So you've got old factories
that have been repurposed as theaters, shipyards and their art galleries.
In fact, the old viaduct, the old railway viaduct has
(01:38:18):
now got art spaces housed inside the arches of the viaduct,
which is pretty trippy to walk along. Best of all,
Prime Tower is here, So this is a thirty five
story skyscraper, Switzerland's tallest, and that just gives you the
most awesome treat across Zurich's rooftops. The Lake, the snow
coated peaks beyond. So yeah, take it all and over
(01:38:39):
a drink or two at Clouds Bards.
Speaker 6 (01:38:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
They've got some really sort of quirky festivals too, don't they.
Speaker 4 (01:38:46):
They do.
Speaker 15 (01:38:47):
I think it's that German side to them wed humor.
First of all, in August they have this massive street parade,
which is considered Europe's biggest peace celebration, so it's a
real hippie fest. Millions go to it. But I'm actually
a little bit disappointed. I'm not going to be in
Zurich at the end of April because in a couple
(01:39:08):
of weeks time, the whole city grinds to a halt
for this weird ritual they call sex Sluten and it
looks like ground Hog Day in the States. So it
involves see sitting on fire a giant straw snowman who's
called the boog, and the time it takes for the
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boob's head to explode it indicates whether it's going to
be a good summer. Apparently the word is they're in
for a long, warm summer.
Speaker 4 (01:39:38):
Jack.
Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Yeah, my goodness, that's quirky to say the least. Hey,
thank you so much, Mike, really appreciate that. We will
make sure all of your tips for a stopover in
Zurich are up on the Newstalk's EDB website. Travel safe
and catch you soon.
Speaker 15 (01:39:53):
Thank you Jack.
Speaker 1 (01:39:57):
Getting your weekends started. It's Saturday morning with Jack team
on Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
That is Dua Lipa of course. So she performed two
sold out shows at Auckland Spark Arena this week, wrapping
up her New Zealand tour, and the crowd last night
were treated to a special surprise appearance by Neil finn
Ah which I've been there for that so Neil and
Dua Lipa saying don't dream it's over. That would have
been a really special experience. Right now, it's twenty six
(01:40:41):
minutes to twelve on News Talks. He'd be Jason Pies
behind the mic for a weekend sport after the midday news.
Good morning sir, massive weekend to sport. Let's start off
with Lim Mawson. All eyes back on him on the
track in Japan. Today was another practice today or is
it qualifying?
Speaker 6 (01:40:55):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
One more practicing qualifying ride okay? Yeah, So I mean
things looked a bit more stable yesterday. Good reasons for
optimism perhaps.
Speaker 24 (01:41:04):
I think so, Yeah, And I wonder whether it's the
fact that, you know, the harsh glare of the top
team has come off yea. And while he's not an
as fast a car, you wouldn't have known it because
he's practiced faster than both.
Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Of the Red Bull drivers.
Speaker 24 (01:41:17):
Yes, with a big caveat there. Yes, nonetheless, but that's
what it says on the sheets. Yes, Now he'll practice
again today and then qualifying tonight will be I think
that'll give us a real indication of where he is
relative to Verstappen and to Yuki Sonoda. You know, I
think we all just want him to drive unincumbered, don't
(01:41:37):
we to be the driver that he can be and
on a track he knows well. So I get the
feeling it'll be, you know, well, certainly it'll be a
more positive weekend, you'd have to think.
Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Yeah, black Cats wrapping up there season this afternoon. We've
got Super Rugby as well, the Blues Canes this evening.
After that Chiefs performance last night and the wets down
in Hamilton. Yeah, Jeep was jeep as it was just
absolutely hosing down, wasn't it. And quite late in the
game though, were what thirteen ten a head on the
red side, that's been good this year.
Speaker 24 (01:42:03):
We're joint or certainly the same win Ostre will go
into that game. But top of the table clash, yeah, absolutely.
A couple of late tries though from Tokyaho and Xavier
rowe are getting them home, so Chiefs remain top.
Speaker 6 (01:42:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 24 (01:42:16):
A quadrupleheader if you're interested, from from around two thirty
this afternoon, with four games back to back to the back.
So there's there's a lot of rugby, there's a there's
an Auckland FC game and amongst all of that as well,
plus the Formula one and the cricket to keep eyes on.
So yeah, the codes are alliding as always about this
time of the year.
Speaker 2 (01:42:33):
Jack Yeah, yeah, speaking of a league this afternoon as well.
Of course Auckland FC win. We're going to the maths.
At what point can we say they've sign up the
regular season.
Speaker 24 (01:42:43):
Well, mathematically they could win it as early as next weekend. Okay,
if they win. If they win today and win next
week and their closest challenges Western United drop three points
across their next two games, so the earliest possible time
that they could win it as next.
Speaker 2 (01:43:00):
Week is there is there an in and league we
say it's the Minor Premiers. Does that what we're saying
in the Alien yea that Yeah.
Speaker 24 (01:43:06):
The end of the Minor Premier is they win the
Premier's Plate. That's the regular season silvo were then they
go into the knockouts.
Speaker 2 (01:43:11):
But which is when?
Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Of course?
Speaker 24 (01:43:13):
Yeah, but finishing top the big advantages. If you finish
top and make the Grand Final, you host the Grand Final.
Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Yeah, true, yeah, of course, which is the huge advantage.
Speaking of New Zealand football, Jake Leson, this is an
amazing story this week. You're speaking with.
Speaker 24 (01:43:25):
Him, so yeah, got him on straight after mid day today. Yeah,
what a what a journey to justice has been for him.
You know, he's been awarded thirty four point seven million
New Zealand dollars and damages. Medical malpractice by a former
team doctor at Portland Timbers basically led to the end
of his career prematurely, well prematurely an unsterilized plate left
(01:43:45):
in his leg during a routine operation for stress fractures
and it caused multiple surgeries, infections, serious medical conditions and
his early retirement. So yeah, Jake Leson whether us after
midday to tell what is a harrowing but I think
in some ways uplifting story.
Speaker 2 (01:44:01):
As well, and an important story. Yeah, hey, thank you
very much, sir, Thanks for to all that sport the South.
The new Jason Pine will be with us for weekend
Sport right after the twelve Colock News before midday. We've
got that new music from Alton John and Brandy Carlisle
that we will share with you. Next up, your book
picks for this weekend.
Speaker 1 (01:44:18):
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Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
Twenty to twelve on newstalks 'DB. Kathin rains as our
book reviewer on Saturday mornings. She's got two reads for
us this weekend. Hey, Catherine, morning Jack. Okay, let's begin
with a Sea of Unspoken Things by Adrian Young.
Speaker 21 (01:44:38):
So this's a set Primary is very small town in
the US, and you get this kind of airy feeling
right from the start, and it cents it on this
character called James and her twin brother Johnny, and they're
really different people. James is always there to clean up
her brother's mess and take the blame for his chaos. However,
you always jump to that you do jump into the
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future and she's started life again after these tragic events
have actually taken Johnny's life, and she's living in Sam Francisco.
She left to pursue some artistic things, but she'd left
not only kind of Johnny behind at the Star and
her high school boyfriend, Micah, And so two decades later,
she's back and bringing back her brother's ashes and focusing,
(01:45:20):
you know, like on this belief that Johnny's death was
in an accident, even though everybody keeps telling her that
it was, and she really doesn't believe it. So she
starts to uncover their secrets hidden in her hometown and
connections to her brother, and of course Micah, who she'd
left behind her was very close to her brother as well,
and there's this touch of magical realism element, and they're
almost the connection between two twins really, but it feels
(01:45:44):
quite thriller like, and it's told all the time from
Jamie's point of view, and she has lots of questions
and confusion about her past and trying to understand her
brother's motivation, and you get this great tension and airy
connection just a little bit haunting as you're kind of
reading it, and the backstory and trying to work out
how these characters are connected and how everybody fits in together.
Speaker 2 (01:46:04):
Nice Okay, sounds very intrigued. That's a sea of unspoken
things by Adrian Young. You've also read Dream State by
Eric Pushna.
Speaker 21 (01:46:12):
So this is set in Montana and Los Angeles, and
it follows three people and the later their children and
spans across about fifty years. And it's a very character
driven novel and it rarely explores the life of these
three characters and the significant others. And so the story
begins in Salish, Montana, where twenty seven year old Ceci
is preparing for her wedding to Charlie at his childhood home,
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and Charlie is a surgeon working in Los Angeles, and
he asks his best friend Garrett not only to officiate
their wedding but also look after Ceci in his absence,
and so he yet to almost examine these almost mundane
events that make up their experiences with friendship and parihood
and marriage and things that might seem ordinary. But there's
a whole lot of these complex and deeply ford characters,
(01:46:56):
and those imperfections make it really interesting. And the author
has this ability to capture these quiet moments of emotions
and turning these every day into actions into something much more.
And because the pacing of the novel is quite slow,
you can immerse yourself in these these inner lives and
the twists and turns, and those human relationships and the
mistakes that they've made in the past and that repeating
(01:47:18):
of the mistakes. And there's also interesting a bit of
an environmental aspect to the narrative, as these characters kind
of transformed by age. You see how Montana and Los
Angeles have been transformed by climate change, and you know
of this natural extension of almost half a century spent
in the worlds of Montana and the changes that they've seen.
Speaker 10 (01:47:35):
But really at the heart.
Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
Of this novel is this.
Speaker 21 (01:47:39):
Connection and this complex emotions that people have between them,
and it us with you really long after you've turned
the final page. And it's really interesting the way these
three lives kind of intersect and the change that happens
right at the beginning of the novel, which talk about it,
I'll give it all away, but is really interesting about
how the dynamics change between the three of them and
how their lives intersect and intertwine.
Speaker 2 (01:48:00):
Yeah, cool, okay cool. That's a dream State by your
Pushnim I See You of Unspoken Things by Adrian You
was Catherine's first book, and of course both of those
will be up at News Talks, B dot co dot
Inzi Ford Slash Jack new music from Elton John and
Brandy Carlisle for you.
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Done.
Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
That's Who Believes An Angels by Elton John and Brandy Carlyle.
It's the name of the album that they've just released
as well. Of course, Sir Elton has stopped touring, but
he's still recording and still Cliver in our music reviewer
is still listening to Sir Elton as he belts them
out like the beast of them? How are you Stelle?
Speaker 25 (01:49:23):
Yeah, I'm doing good And that is one of those
stadium fellas that song, isn't it.
Speaker 22 (01:49:26):
Yeah?
Speaker 25 (01:49:27):
You can just imagine everyone waving their lights in the
air having a good sing along. A couple of months ago,
I saw the teaser trailer video for this album and
I was like, what is this going to be because
it's a clip of Elton John losing his marbles like
he is just throwing his toys in the studio.
Speaker 10 (01:49:45):
Heavenless massive tentrum.
Speaker 25 (01:49:48):
I'm like, oh my god, how did Brandy Carlile like
go in a studio and record an album? Like what
a great little teaser to be Like, yeah, come of
this album like so clever because the bit that they've
done alongside the album as they've also done a thirty
minute doco behind the scenes of putting this album together. Yeah,
so that comes out later on today. It's the first
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time Elton John's actually let anybody film the writing album process,
and so you know, he has set himself. There's some
stuff that he's quite embarrassed about, and he was in
a dark place. He'd finished his tour, he'd gone out
on this massive high and he was kind of tired
and then got into the studio. There's twenty days they'd
blocked out for him and Brenda Carlisle to come together
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and write this album, and they went in with nothing
and I think he just, you know, he started off
kind of not on the right place and the head space,
which is a pretty honest thing to say, right when
you've had a however many decade career to then kind
of have to front foot and go there's all these
other people in the studio going, well, we want to
write at one hundred percent, so let's get on with this.
(01:50:52):
So that was kind of interesting, a few sort of
stumbling days for them, I think, but at the end
of it, they've come out with ten complete tracks and
a full album and a documentary and you can just
hear the passion for both of them, I think four.
I mean, they're very, very talented musicians. Branda Carlole is
an excellent songwriter in her own right, and then to
come together with someone who can just suddenly, you know,
(01:51:15):
get it on the keys and smash out this massive
riff or oh, I know, I want to do like
this real orchestral end to a song. So I'm just
gonna write that right the second. You know, in ten
minutes later, she's kind of standing there in awe, being
like what has happened? So I think that they definitely
have brought out the best in each other. The first
(01:51:36):
three tracks are quite rock and roll, and they're sort
of like a tribute to who Sir Elton John and
Bernie Torpin idolized when they were young and coming up
through the ranks. The opening track the Rows of Laura Nero.
If you haven't heard her music before, listen to this
album and then go back and have a listened to
her stuff through the sixties and seventies.
Speaker 2 (01:51:55):
It's got this.
Speaker 25 (01:51:56):
Real rolling, rambling intro to it, and it starts the
whole album and you don't hear anyone sing for like
the first two minutes. It's got this massive, long intro,
and you've got musicians and they're like Chad Smith on
the drums from Redhot Chillies, You've got Brandy, You've got
Alton Andy, Andrew wat is their producer, and they're just like, well,
(01:52:17):
we're just all going to lead it with our music stuff,
and you're not gonna hear anyone sing yet, you know,
Like it's quite an interesting start for these guys. Brandon
Carlo actually leads most of the songs in the vocals,
and Elton does a lot of the backup harmony vocals.
He said that was a huge challenge for him because
everyone has their their rhythm right or how they would
a phrase like they're phrasing, and so he's had to
(01:52:38):
kind of match his phrasing, and you know, he's got
that big voice where often people have to sort of
match into him, and he's had to change that style
to fit in with her. So I think it's kind
of interesting to know that someone like Sir Elton John
wants to sell challenge himself and that's what keeps him going,
I think, and keeps them afresh and keeps them wanting
to do this.
Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
But yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah yeah, And.
Speaker 25 (01:53:02):
So one of the you're want to play this a
little bit later, but Little Richard's Bibles that's the second
song on the album, again a tribute to Little Richard.
I mean, people like to see Elton John having around
long enough that they've performed with people like this and
then to like sort of have these influences style the
music I think has been kind of a really beautiful
place for them to go. I can't imagine also being
(01:53:24):
Brandy Carlisle saying here's some lyrics I wrote, would you
like to write a song like I just imagine it?
Speaker 22 (01:53:31):
Would you like to take part in this?
Speaker 25 (01:53:32):
And some real strength in the singing. Swing for the
Fences is a song that both of them have said,
you know, it's encouraging our young gay youth to embrace
their identity and your dreams. If you can look to
both of them, have how to live your truth. Doesn't
matter what politically is happening around you. You know there
is hope for that and giving strength to those communities,
which I think is a beautiful place for both of
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them to, you know, to lead from. And at the end,
so they've done it in two halves because they want
it to be like an actual album that you flip over.
There's disc one, there's disc two. Disc one ends with
Brandy singing a song called You Without Me as an
absolute tear jerkish.
Speaker 2 (01:54:08):
Yeah, sounds beautiful on it.
Speaker 25 (01:54:09):
It's all about that moment where you're so proud because
your kids have grown and they're about to do some
things on their own, but you're also devastated because they
don't need you so much anymore. So for anyone who's
a parent, there is going to you know, you can
let some tears out over that one, which is quite beautiful.
And then the second half ends with Elton, So it's
kind of like this full wrap up where they've really
(01:54:30):
showcased all their talents, but they've also given space to
each other, and I think that's a pretty awesome place
to be.
Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Sounds great, I'm looking for Okay, what did you give it?
Speaker 10 (01:54:40):
Oh?
Speaker 25 (01:54:40):
This has really changed so many because the more I
slit with it, the more I like it. I started
somewhere like a seven, but then I've just gone hard
on it for the last sort of two hours, and yeah,
I'm going to say maybe more like a nine. Okay, yeah, yeah,
it grows on you, and I think that's a great place.
And I just love Brandy's I love her voice on this.
Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
He was great, alright, well looking yeah, yeah, okay, cool
figure steal so nine out of ten for who believes
in angels. We will get that little Richard's Bible song.
Play that to you in a couple of minutes right
now at seven to twelve on Newstalk's EDB.
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Very shortly for weekends sport. A massive weekend of various
different codes. I think what four Super Rugby games back
to back this afternoon to look forward to. Plus, of
course you've got a league as well, the black Caps
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We're gonna leave you with Sir Elton John and Brandy Carlyle.
Their album is Who Believes in Angels? This is Little
Richard's Bible.
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