Trainwreck: The Astroworld Tragedy
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be life is all about balance, so I reckon
if you've just finished up all ten seasons of Below Deck,
you'll be looking for something just to even things out
a little bit. Chris Shultz's in for screen time this week,
and he's chosen three documentaries because we figure that if
you've watched Below Deck, you're going to need just a
little bit of something there. Morning, Chris, Morning Jake.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah, very well, thank you. Okay, three fantastic documentaries
you can stream or watch at home to talk us
through this morning. Let's begin with one that's on Netflix.
Tell us about train Wreck, the astro World tragedy.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, well, we all all remember fire Fest, this ridiculous
festival from twenty seventeen that promised the world or was
a festival in the Bahamas, and all these influencers got
sucked into spending all their money on going and they
ended up with no music, living in disaster tenths and
(01:06):
eating tea sandwiches. This is not that, this is astro World.
This is a Travis Scott festival disaster from twenty twenty one.
I don't know if you remember that time, Jack. It
was a time when we weren't having a lot of
music festivals. The world had been in lockdown, and this
was one of the biggest going at that time that
(01:27):
was being streamed on Apple Music. I had it set
up in my lounge. We've just been through that five
month lockdown, and so I was like, even if it's
just on my laptop, I want to go to a
music festival. I want to experience a little bit of that.
And it turned into just a complete disaster. This turned
into a crowd crush where ten people died, including a
(01:49):
nine year old. Just so this is covering that it's
not funny at all. Like five festival, it was very
easy to laugh at that event. When people die, it's
a very different experience. So this is quite harrying in places.
They sort of together exactly why it turned into what
it did, and they talked to, you know, the security
(02:12):
teams that were all hired like the night before and
then led in thousands of extra people because the defencing
wasn't good enough. They talked to a crowd safety expert
who sort of analyzes the stage set up. They built
a stage for thirty five thousand people and fifty thousand people.
Fifty thousand tickets were sold, plus the people who jumped
(02:34):
the fences, and then they were all coming in from
one side, so everyone was getting crushed on one side.
So yeah, be very careful with this one. I found
it incredibly harrowing to watch. You know, they talked to
some of the victims' families, they're obviously still distraught. They've
got text messages from the organizers that showed they knew
(02:55):
what was happening. And the footage that really got to
me actually was when Travis Scott saw this. They never
stopped the show, the whole show when he hit his
planned even when people were being pulled out unconscious, and
they've got this footage of him watching someone get pulled
out of the mosh pit unconscious, and he stops the show,
does the right thing, and then he just carries on.
He keeps the performance going, and this was happening all
(03:18):
over the venue.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
From memory, he seemed he sort of had a really
strange response. And I know that he's a bit of
a controversial artist, but he had a pretty out there
response at the time. I wouldn't say so it was
totally cold, but it wasn't the kind of caring response
that you'd expect from most regular human beings, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think I think your cold is actually a
really good description for how he behaved afterwards. I mean,
he was actually here in October last year, and I
went to that show, and it showed he hadn't really
learned a lot. There were a lot of fights at
that show. People were actually pulled out of that mush
pit unconscious as well, so not a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Not a fun event to a teens, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I didn't have I didn't have a good time at that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Check that. It does sound like it sounded like a
really interesting documentary, but one, like you say, you probably
just want to be careful about when you choose to
watch it. It sounds like some really sort of confronting details,
isn't it. But that's train Wreck the Astro World Tragedy.
So that's on Netflix. Also on Netflix, American man Hunt
Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I picked this one just for you, Jack. I think
you're going to be very into this. This is the
third in the man Hunt series. They've also done the
Boston Marathon bomber, and they've done o Jack Simpson. I
think this is probably a harder one to tell, just
because of the time span and because of the secrecy
around it. Right, everyone remembers, you know, nine to eleven
(04:40):
and the ten year hunts that played out from George
Bush's presidency into a Barack Obama's and then you know,
we didn't know who had gone on these missions for
a long time at all was very secret. So the
trick here is they've got all this new footage, they've
got new details, They've got almost everyone who was there,
(05:02):
including some of the seal team that raided the house
and ended up killing O some of them. Uh So,
so this actually plays out more like a Born movie,
like a like a spy thriller. It's a three part
series full of cliffhangers. It's full of details that I'd
either forgotten about or didn't know. It's it's very cleverly told.
(05:25):
But the one problem with it is it's very pro American,
as you'd expect, almost surprise.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, it's like watching Top Gun, you know, like it's very.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Sort of hohorah, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, I watched it. I watched it because I
mean I find it interesting and one thing I do
find curious though, is you know this is it's a
great example of why you can so often disprove conspiracy theories.
Whenever anyone says, oh, you know, the deep state or
the governments you know, done this or that, I always say,
look at a summer bin. Laden, right, he was. He
(05:59):
was taken out eventually by sealed Team Sex. But the
guy who pulled the trigger, despite having signed an end
you know, and despite being part of this elite group
of soldiers from you know this, this is supposedly elite
military force, within about thirty six hours of killing some
of them, Laden he'd already signed a book deal. You know.
(06:21):
I'm like, you know what, if there is a conspiracy theory,
they're probably not going to keep it secret. You know,
if you can't keep something like that secret and they're
going to be series made about it on Netflix, then
you know, you can probably disprove that consumer there's that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think all of the people on this, they've got
all the CIA operators as well, and most of them
don't have their Facebook. There's one or two that do,
but I think they all do want their moment, and
so this is probably the biggest thing they ever got
to work on. And the Netflix documentary gets from the
biggest audience, so you can see why they don't. They
would do it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, So that's American man Hunt, some of loudon and
very quickly tell us about underdogs on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I thought this was a kid's film, you know,
it's a nature documentary. We've been looking for a replacement
for David Attenborough for a long time. Morgan Freeman had
a bit of a go. I think Scarlet Johnson's done
one or two as well, and it hasn't really worked.
This is Ryan Reynolds narracing a nature documentary. But this
is unlike any nature documentary I've ever seen. It's raised
(07:17):
m If you're wondering whether or not it's few, just
watch the first minutes where the blur guy, the guy
who has to blur out details normally of things like
on the reality shows you were mentioning at the start.
There has to do a lot of work for animals.
So this is about the stuff David Attenburrough never showed
(07:39):
you the roots. Yeah yeah, yeah, And then it's got
Ryan Reynolds and narrating over the top. The one interesting
thing is new Zealand features In this they got footage
of the White time O Cave glowworms, apparently for the
first time. I don't know if that's true or not,
but the footage is incredible. But if you want an
example of the tone, he describes the glow worms as
(08:02):
making snot chandily is. So whether that is okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Where we're at. Yes, can imagine, can imagine Rayle Reynold's
doing that, Probably can't imagine today bat and we're doing that.
So it sounds like a bit of fun and something different.
So that's Underdogs that's on Disney, plus American Manhunt, Something
Bin Laden, and train Wreck, The Astro World Tragedy of
the documentaries that are streaming on Netflix, and all the
details for those will be up on The News Talk's
(08:27):
EDB website. Thanks so much, Chris, We'll catch again soon
Speaker 1 (08:30):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live
to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Teams podcast
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
A'd be life is all about balance, so I reckon
if you've just finished up all ten seasons of Below Deck,
you'll be looking for something just to even things out
a little bit. Chris Shultz's in for screen time this week,
and he's chosen three documentaries because we figure that if
you've watched Below Deck, you're going to need just a
little bit of something there. Morning, Chris, Morning Jake.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, yeah, very well, thank you. Okay, three fantastic documentaries
you can stream or watch at home to talk us
through this morning. Let's begin with one that's on Netflix.
Tell us about train Wreck, the astro World tragedy.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Yeah, well, we all all remember fire Fest, this ridiculous
festival from twenty seventeen that promised the world or was
a festival in the Bahamas, and all these influencers got
sucked into spending all their money on going and they
ended up with no music, living in disaster tenths and
(01:06):
eating tea sandwiches. This is not that, this is astro World.
This is a Travis Scott festival disaster from twenty twenty one.
I don't know if you remember that time, Jack. It
was a time when we weren't having a lot of
music festivals. The world had been in lockdown, and this
was one of the biggest going at that time that
(01:27):
was being streamed on Apple Music. I had it set
up in my lounge. We've just been through that five
month lockdown, and so I was like, even if it's
just on my laptop, I want to go to a
music festival. I want to experience a little bit of that.
And it turned into just a complete disaster. This turned
into a crowd crush where ten people died, including a
(01:49):
nine year old. Just so this is covering that it's
not funny at all. Like five festival, it was very
easy to laugh at that event. When people die, it's
a very different experience. So this is quite harrying in places.
They sort of together exactly why it turned into what
it did, and they talked to, you know, the security
(02:12):
teams that were all hired like the night before and
then led in thousands of extra people because the defencing
wasn't good enough. They talked to a crowd safety expert
who sort of analyzes the stage set up. They built
a stage for thirty five thousand people and fifty thousand people.
Fifty thousand tickets were sold, plus the people who jumped
(02:34):
the fences, and then they were all coming in from
one side, so everyone was getting crushed on one side.
So yeah, be very careful with this one. I found
it incredibly harrowing to watch. You know, they talked to
some of the victims' families, they're obviously still distraught. They've
got text messages from the organizers that showed they knew
(02:55):
what was happening. And the footage that really got to
me actually was when Travis Scott saw this. They never
stopped the show, the whole show when he hit his
planned even when people were being pulled out unconscious, and
they've got this footage of him watching someone get pulled
out of the mosh pit unconscious, and he stops the show,
does the right thing, and then he just carries on.
He keeps the performance going, and this was happening all
(03:18):
over the venue.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
From memory, he seemed he sort of had a really
strange response. And I know that he's a bit of
a controversial artist, but he had a pretty out there
response at the time. I wouldn't say so it was
totally cold, but it wasn't the kind of caring response
that you'd expect from most regular human beings, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Well, I think I think your cold is actually a
really good description for how he behaved afterwards. I mean,
he was actually here in October last year, and I
went to that show, and it showed he hadn't really
learned a lot. There were a lot of fights at
that show. People were actually pulled out of that mush
pit unconscious as well, so not a lot.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Not a fun event to a teens, Chris.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I didn't have I didn't have a good time at that.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Check that. It does sound like it sounded like a
really interesting documentary, but one, like you say, you probably
just want to be careful about when you choose to
watch it. It sounds like some really sort of confronting details,
isn't it. But that's train Wreck the Astro World Tragedy.
So that's on Netflix. Also on Netflix, American man Hunt
Osama bin Laden.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
I picked this one just for you, Jack. I think
you're going to be very into this. This is the
third in the man Hunt series. They've also done the
Boston Marathon bomber, and they've done o Jack Simpson. I
think this is probably a harder one to tell, just
because of the time span and because of the secrecy
around it. Right, everyone remembers, you know, nine to eleven
(04:40):
and the ten year hunts that played out from George
Bush's presidency into a Barack Obama's and then you know,
we didn't know who had gone on these missions for
a long time at all was very secret. So the
trick here is they've got all this new footage, they've
got new details, They've got almost everyone who was there,
(05:02):
including some of the seal team that raided the house
and ended up killing O some of them. Uh So,
so this actually plays out more like a Born movie,
like a like a spy thriller. It's a three part
series full of cliffhangers. It's full of details that I'd
either forgotten about or didn't know. It's it's very cleverly told.
(05:25):
But the one problem with it is it's very pro American,
as you'd expect, almost surprise.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Yeah, it's like watching Top Gun, you know, like it's very.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
Sort of hohorah, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah, yeah, I watched it. I watched it because I
mean I find it interesting and one thing I do
find curious though, is you know this is it's a
great example of why you can so often disprove conspiracy theories.
Whenever anyone says, oh, you know, the deep state or
the governments you know, done this or that, I always say,
look at a summer bin. Laden, right, he was. He
(05:59):
was taken out eventually by sealed Team Sex. But the
guy who pulled the trigger, despite having signed an end
you know, and despite being part of this elite group
of soldiers from you know this, this is supposedly elite
military force, within about thirty six hours of killing some
of them, Laden he'd already signed a book deal. You know.
(06:21):
I'm like, you know what, if there is a conspiracy theory,
they're probably not going to keep it secret. You know,
if you can't keep something like that secret and they're
going to be series made about it on Netflix, then
you know, you can probably disprove that consumer there's that.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
I think all of the people on this, they've got
all the CIA operators as well, and most of them
don't have their Facebook. There's one or two that do,
but I think they all do want their moment, and
so this is probably the biggest thing they ever got
to work on. And the Netflix documentary gets from the
biggest audience, so you can see why they don't. They
would do it.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, So that's American man Hunt, some of loudon and
very quickly tell us about underdogs on Disney Plus.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
Well, I thought this was a kid's film, you know,
it's a nature documentary. We've been looking for a replacement
for David Attenborough for a long time. Morgan Freeman had
a bit of a go. I think Scarlet Johnson's done
one or two as well, and it hasn't really worked.
This is Ryan Reynolds narracing a nature documentary. But this
is unlike any nature documentary I've ever seen. It's raised
(07:17):
m If you're wondering whether or not it's few, just
watch the first minutes where the blur guy, the guy
who has to blur out details normally of things like
on the reality shows you were mentioning at the start.
There has to do a lot of work for animals.
So this is about the stuff David Attenburrough never showed
(07:39):
you the roots. Yeah yeah, yeah, And then it's got
Ryan Reynolds and narrating over the top. The one interesting
thing is new Zealand features In this they got footage
of the White time O Cave glowworms, apparently for the
first time. I don't know if that's true or not,
but the footage is incredible. But if you want an
example of the tone, he describes the glow worms as
(08:02):
making snot chandily is. So whether that is okay, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Where we're at. Yes, can imagine, can imagine Rayle Reynold's
doing that, Probably can't imagine today bat and we're doing that.
So it sounds like a bit of fun and something different.
So that's Underdogs that's on Disney, plus American Manhunt, Something
Bin Laden, and train Wreck, The Astro World Tragedy of
the documentaries that are streaming on Netflix, and all the
details for those will be up on The News Talk's
(08:27):
EDB website. Thanks so much, Chris, We'll catch again soon
Speaker 1 (08:30):
For more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame, Listen live
to News Talks EDB from nine am Saturday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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