July 11, 2025 • 16 mins
Maren Morris is a country music superstar.
She’s a Grammy Award Winner and a five time winner at the Country Music Awards, breaking records and writing songs for iconic artists like Kelly Clarkson and Tim McGraw.
And now she’s entering a new era in her life and career with her latest album ‘Dreamsicle’.
She’ll be heading to New Zealand next year to ride the country music wave that’s sweeping the country, performing shows in Auckland and Christchurch.
Morris joined Jack Tame to discuss this next phase in her career, the meaning behind Dreamsicle, and next year’s tour.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at BA.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Maren Morris is a country music superstar. She's a Grammy winner,
a five time winner at the Country Music Awards. She's
broken all sorts of records with the music. She's written
songs for artists like Kellie Clarkson and Tim McGaw and
she is entering a new era in her life and
career with her latest album, Dreamsicle. Maren is heading to
(00:52):
New Zealand next year to ride the country music wave
that's sweeping our nation and joins us this morning, Kilder, Maren,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's good to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, it's great to be chatting. You're sort of in
a kind of new era of life a little bit
with that with Dreamsicle. So tell us what is a
dream circle and what does a what is a dream
circle kind of rate presient?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that. Y'all
probably don't have those over there. So a dreamsicle is
like an ice cream cone, h And at least there's
different variations. There's like a cream cicle. But then in
Texas where I grew up. We were on a could
a stack street, so that ice cream truck would go
by in the summertime and I would always get out
(01:39):
of you know, the hundred pictures of options, I would
get the Dreamsicle. So, I mean that's been in my
head for a long time obviously as like a nostalgia thing,
like a childhood thing. But I named the record after
that because, well, there's a song on the record called
Dreamsicle that I wrote, and it's just about you know,
things that are you know, wonderful, like are fleeting and
(02:01):
we know that. But I think just not mourning it
too soon and just really being present in the moment
and enjoying what's in your hands, yeah at that time
is way more fruitful than trying to like rush through
it or like mourn that it's over while it's still happening.
Like I kind of fall into that trap a lot.
(02:23):
So it's just my own reminder to myself to just
stay present and enjoy like the good and the bad
things as there happening, because it all ends.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, that's such a good message and kind of a
universal message, right, like about trying to be present and
observe that the multitude of kind of emotions and things
that you have in life. But I can imagine that
for someone like you, given how busy you are and
given all the directions you're being pulled in, that must
be really difficult.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, I think when things are, you know, going well,
but you're also constantly you know, I'm always on the road,
traveling or on tour, So it's like some days I
don't even know what city I'm in until I step
off the bus, and there's just there's a sort of
disorienting nature to that. But then also like the tour
will end or an album cycle will end, and I'll
(03:12):
be like that was fun, But I really like it
was all kind of blurring together because it's just I'm
not taking stock of each moment, and some you know,
I think we all kind of are guilty of that.
That's a normal human experience. But now, I mean, like,
I'm so lucky and that I get to do this
thing that I love for a living. But yeah, it
(03:33):
does like it's a daily practice to just be appreciative
of it and be in the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So the good news is that we have popsicles in
New Zealand, so we don't have cream circles. We have popsicles,
which is kind of like an ice lolly, I think,
But what does the dream circle have. Does they have
like the chocolate bars coming out, or is there like
frosting that goes on top or something.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's actually like sort of an orange cream type of
ice cream.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But contravertial orange ice cream.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I mean oranges and is It's a good combo.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But I refreshing. I can see that. I can see
that it would be a refreshing option, especially if and
like you say, you know, as a kid, you kind
of you work out what your favorites are pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, you definitely like know what you don't like. But no,
for me, I don't know. I mean I love like
a popsicle for sure. But I mean that just like
felt so summary to me and very like reminiscent evocative
of like my hometown where I grew up in Texas.
So yeah, it's sort of like my I don't know,
(04:41):
maybe this home for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. I think the thing that's kind of noticeable with
Dreams to Called the album is that the sound of
the album is a little bit different, not in a
huge way, like you can still you can kind of
still see your your your roots coming through, but obviously
there's a bit of a different sound there. So how
do you kind of balance your natural inclinations towards what
might be deemed as a kind of country sound with
(05:05):
also wanting to blend in some other genres.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, I think that just comes down to, like, well,
I listened to so many different types of music, even
though I think the way that I sing and the
way that I write my lyrics is very country leaning,
because that's like how I learned to write songs. But
I really wanted to push myself with the sound of
this album, so I wanted to work with producers that
(05:32):
really challenged me. So that's like, you know with Jack Antonoff,
Evan Blair, Joel Little, who's a New Zealander, Yeah, and
then like Naomi McPherson from Muna doing like cry in
the Car Push Me Over. You know, there's a pretty
wide array of people that are getting these new feelings
(05:54):
out of me. And yeah, so I think it's probably
like sonically the most diverse record I've put out because
I worked with so many different friends on this project.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And so that the kind of inclination that drives the
sonic changes that comes more from the producer influence, you
think than the different music that you're listening to personally.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, it's probably a blend of both. But I
think I'm really I think because I learned to write
songs in Nashville, and like the collaborative process is me
like coming in as a writer that even though we
could be writing about something I'm going through emotionally that day,
I still want to come in and collaborate and you know,
(06:38):
share the message with the people I'm in the room with.
So you have to leave your ego at the door
to get the best possible thing. And so I think, yeah,
just there's a lot of like humbling and like give
and take I do with whoever I'm working with. And
I think it's just it could be the weather that day,
(06:58):
it could be how I'm feeling, it could be the
combination of people I'm working with. But I mean every song,
every song is a different mood depending on all those variables.
So I think, like you're going to hear every influence
I have come out of however I'm feeling. But also, yeah,
the producer, the other writers bring out a ton of
(07:21):
differences in me, and I think That's why I love,
you know, my sort of people I always come back to,
and I love writing with on every record. But then
also I like meeting new people and figuring a new
thing out about myself that maybe, like I had not
accessed before.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's like a process of kind of unlocking these
other frontiers or something like that. So Joel Little is
a friend of our show, so he's been on before.
We loved Joel Little in New Zealandia. I feel like
we plot every single like stage in his career. So
tell us about tell us about your experience working with y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh my gosh. I mean, he's just such a dream
and so kind and funny and like, you know, I
think the first time we wrote, I mean I think
it was Cut, which is the song I wrote with
Joel and Julia Michaels and Julia is a duet on
the song. But I just remember he sent the demo back,
(08:18):
and obviously I'm well aware of his work. He's an
extremely talented, successful writer, producer, but I was just so
blown away when he sent the Cut demo back, and yeah,
I was just like, please, anytime you're back in LA,
I would love to get on your books, and yeah,
we ended up writing Too Good. I think that next
(08:42):
time he was back in the States, and I just
I'm obsessed with him. I love that he takes my
wacky ideas because Cut and Two Good are very different
from each other, even though Joel you know, wrote and
produced them both with me. But I think that, Yeah,
that's like the fun part is he is just game
(09:03):
for whatever I throw at him when I walk into
the session, and he just executes it brilliantly. Like it's
just he's so so talented and so like so kind.
Maybe it's a maybe it's a New Zealand thing. You
are just really on earth human.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know, I'd like to say that, but
I think Joel's one of a guid Definitely. It's amazing
the extent to which he gives back to musicians and
the kind of you underground music community in New Zealand
as well. He's done so much for up and coming
musicians in New Zealand. You toured with the Chicks who
have actually also also been on the show before, So
how was how was that? I mean, we think of
(09:39):
them as being kind of trail blazing and outspoken in
these defining figures within country music. How was How was
your experience?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I mean incredible. We did Canada and Europe UK with them,
and I mean they're my heroes. Like I remember they're
from uh North Texas as well. So like when they
put out that first album in like nineteen ninety, I
think it's like wide open spaces. I mean, I obviously
(10:10):
it was huge, but I was just so that really
like opened my mind to the possibilities of you know, songwriting,
of musicianship, because they're all incredible musicians, like multi instrumentalists.
Natalie's voice is just so like no one else on
this planet sounds like her. There's just and then just
(10:32):
the three of them together, I mean, it's just such
a powerful collaboration. And I just I also love that
they really champion songwriters like the Dixie or the Chicks
are how I discovered Patty Griffin, who's like one of
my favorite artists, songwriters heroes of all time, And that's
(10:53):
only because the Chicks recorded her song let Him Fly.
And so yeah, I just love that they like truly
love songwriters and they are incredible songwriters themselves. But yeah,
being on the road with them was just such a
dream and they are outside of their music, their allyship.
(11:13):
They're just going against the grain and stick like really
just staying within their morals so powerfully, like over decades.
It's just such a testament to like what they believe
in and just what good people they are. So yeah,
it was definitely one of the most like fun tours
(11:36):
I've gotten to do because they mean so much to me.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, they're incredible, like courageous women. It's yeah, I
can see that would have been so special. So I
think you were here in twenty eighteen, right with Nile Horn. Yeah,
I reckon when you get to New Zealand, you're going
to be like, whoa, things have changed in New Zealand
in that country music here is so big right now,
Like it's crazy the kind of the kind of change
(12:02):
that's happened in just the last couple of years. So
I wonder what's your scenes. Do you have any kind
of thoughts or ideas as to why country music is
stretching so far beyond its original routes and connecting with
different audiences at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean, you'd have to tell me, like in New Zealand,
like what kind of country music is resonating.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, I mean so I would say country music in
the broadest sense, but even even little things right like
we've got brand new like iHeart streaming stations that are
focused on country because there's such a demand for a
range of country music at the moment that maybe didn't exist,
you know, you know, say ten years ago. And I
don't know if it's the lyricism or the storytelling or
(12:49):
something about the musicality itself, but clearly there's like a
growing audience of people in New Zealand who might never
have thought they would ever listen to anything that could
be deemed to be country music, who are really seeking
it out at the moment. And I think, I mean
the sense I get is that it's happening and not
some places around the world.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, it's definitely like a popular, more mainstream genre of
music because I mean, like when I was in junior
high high school, even in Texas, it was a very
small group of like teenagers that would admit to listening
to country music, like it wasn't considered cool at that time.
(13:29):
Like it's so different now. I think also with like
social media and younger people's access to it has also
made it this worldwide genre. And not just something that
the States has. But now I mean, like I think
people crave authenticity and that's kind of the bedrock of
(13:52):
the lyricism and storytelling of country music. But it's also
like it's an incredibly diverse genre, and I think like
every you know, ten years, like there's some genre that
becomes like more mainstream. I feel like for you know,
a very long time and still is. It's like hip
(14:13):
hop and R and B and country like was sort
of waiting in the wings for a while and now
it's like, you know, on charts that aren't just dedicated
to its own genre, like it's on you know, mainstream charts,
but no, I mean I think, yeah, it's just and
there's more you know, collaboration, like artists sort of like
(14:33):
cross genre being on each other's songs, like duets that crossover.
Like I mean, this isn't a country song, but I
was a country artist when I jumped on the middle
in twenty eighteen, and it brought a ton of people
to my work because you know, even though I was
(14:55):
successful in the States and like parts of UK, like
it wasn't you know, in Australia and so like when
I was boring with Nile. I think The Middle had
just come out and people knew that song, so it
felt like, okay, like it's introducing my work that's been
predominantly country and on country charts to the world through
(15:17):
this like eight M pop song. Yeah. So yeah, I
think music is just all around right now, like extremely
diverse and collaborative and you know, cross pollinated.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's a very smart analysis and a very very good
a very good word for it. Look, we're so delighted
with Dreamscle and so so pleased that you're going to
be headlining in New Zealand. I just hope that you're
going to carve out like a couple of days somewhere
so you can have a vacation while you're hear I
have some days.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Off like buffering in between. But no, I mean I'm
so excited. I feel like when I was there last,
we had a day off and we went on the
ferry to like the vineyards the wind Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I definitely need to carve out a day for that
because that was that was a dreamy.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's all about being present, you know. This is that
you got to lean into the dreamsicle ethos here, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Be present in your wine drunk.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Hey, it's such a pleasure to speak. I know how
busy you are, so we really appreciate it. All the
very best with Dreamsicle and we cannot wait to have
you in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So thank you. I can't wait to be there. I'm
counting it on the days.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So good. That is Maren Morris. She is coming to
New Zealand. Tickets for her Dreamsicle tour are available through
ticket Master. We've got all the dates up at news
Talks HEDB dot co dot for.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Maren Morris is a country music superstar. She's a Grammy winner,
a five time winner at the Country Music Awards. She's
broken all sorts of records with the music. She's written
songs for artists like Kellie Clarkson and Tim McGaw and
she is entering a new era in her life and
career with her latest album, Dreamsicle. Maren is heading to
(00:52):
New Zealand next year to ride the country music wave
that's sweeping our nation and joins us this morning, Kilder, Maren,
welcome to the show.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
That's good to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Yeah, it's great to be chatting. You're sort of in
a kind of new era of life a little bit
with that with Dreamsicle. So tell us what is a
dream circle and what does a what is a dream
circle kind of rate presient?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Oh my gosh, I didn't even think about that. Y'all
probably don't have those over there. So a dreamsicle is
like an ice cream cone, h And at least there's
different variations. There's like a cream cicle. But then in
Texas where I grew up. We were on a could
a stack street, so that ice cream truck would go
by in the summertime and I would always get out
(01:39):
of you know, the hundred pictures of options, I would
get the Dreamsicle. So, I mean that's been in my
head for a long time obviously as like a nostalgia thing,
like a childhood thing. But I named the record after
that because, well, there's a song on the record called
Dreamsicle that I wrote, and it's just about you know,
things that are you know, wonderful, like are fleeting and
(02:01):
we know that. But I think just not mourning it
too soon and just really being present in the moment
and enjoying what's in your hands, yeah at that time
is way more fruitful than trying to like rush through
it or like mourn that it's over while it's still happening.
Like I kind of fall into that trap a lot.
(02:23):
So it's just my own reminder to myself to just
stay present and enjoy like the good and the bad
things as there happening, because it all ends.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, that's such a good message and kind of a
universal message, right, like about trying to be present and
observe that the multitude of kind of emotions and things
that you have in life. But I can imagine that
for someone like you, given how busy you are and
given all the directions you're being pulled in, that must
be really difficult.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Yeah, I think when things are, you know, going well,
but you're also constantly you know, I'm always on the road,
traveling or on tour, So it's like some days I
don't even know what city I'm in until I step
off the bus, and there's just there's a sort of
disorienting nature to that. But then also like the tour
will end or an album cycle will end, and I'll
(03:12):
be like that was fun, But I really like it
was all kind of blurring together because it's just I'm
not taking stock of each moment, and some you know,
I think we all kind of are guilty of that.
That's a normal human experience. But now, I mean, like,
I'm so lucky and that I get to do this
thing that I love for a living. But yeah, it
(03:33):
does like it's a daily practice to just be appreciative
of it and be in the moment.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So the good news is that we have popsicles in
New Zealand, so we don't have cream circles. We have popsicles,
which is kind of like an ice lolly, I think,
But what does the dream circle have. Does they have
like the chocolate bars coming out, or is there like
frosting that goes on top or something.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
It's actually like sort of an orange cream type of
ice cream.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
But contravertial orange ice cream.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I mean oranges and is It's a good combo.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
But I refreshing. I can see that. I can see
that it would be a refreshing option, especially if and
like you say, you know, as a kid, you kind
of you work out what your favorites are pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, you definitely like know what you don't like. But no,
for me, I don't know. I mean I love like
a popsicle for sure. But I mean that just like
felt so summary to me and very like reminiscent evocative
of like my hometown where I grew up in Texas.
So yeah, it's sort of like my I don't know,
(04:41):
maybe this home for sure.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah. I think the thing that's kind of noticeable with
Dreams to Called the album is that the sound of
the album is a little bit different, not in a
huge way, like you can still you can kind of
still see your your your roots coming through, but obviously
there's a bit of a different sound there. So how
do you kind of balance your natural inclinations towards what
might be deemed as a kind of country sound with
(05:05):
also wanting to blend in some other genres.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
I mean, I think that just comes down to, like, well,
I listened to so many different types of music, even
though I think the way that I sing and the
way that I write my lyrics is very country leaning,
because that's like how I learned to write songs. But
I really wanted to push myself with the sound of
this album, so I wanted to work with producers that
(05:32):
really challenged me. So that's like, you know with Jack Antonoff,
Evan Blair, Joel Little, who's a New Zealander, Yeah, and
then like Naomi McPherson from Muna doing like cry in
the Car Push Me Over. You know, there's a pretty
wide array of people that are getting these new feelings
(05:54):
out of me. And yeah, so I think it's probably
like sonically the most diverse record I've put out because
I worked with so many different friends on this project.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
And so that the kind of inclination that drives the
sonic changes that comes more from the producer influence, you
think than the different music that you're listening to personally.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
I mean, it's probably a blend of both. But I
think I'm really I think because I learned to write
songs in Nashville, and like the collaborative process is me
like coming in as a writer that even though we
could be writing about something I'm going through emotionally that day,
I still want to come in and collaborate and you know,
(06:38):
share the message with the people I'm in the room with.
So you have to leave your ego at the door
to get the best possible thing. And so I think, yeah,
just there's a lot of like humbling and like give
and take I do with whoever I'm working with. And
I think it's just it could be the weather that day,
(06:58):
it could be how I'm feeling, it could be the
combination of people I'm working with. But I mean every song,
every song is a different mood depending on all those variables.
So I think, like you're going to hear every influence
I have come out of however I'm feeling. But also, yeah,
the producer, the other writers bring out a ton of
(07:21):
differences in me, and I think That's why I love,
you know, my sort of people I always come back to,
and I love writing with on every record. But then
also I like meeting new people and figuring a new
thing out about myself that maybe, like I had not
accessed before.
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Yeah, it's like a process of kind of unlocking these
other frontiers or something like that. So Joel Little is
a friend of our show, so he's been on before.
We loved Joel Little in New Zealandia. I feel like
we plot every single like stage in his career. So
tell us about tell us about your experience working with y'all.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
Oh my gosh. I mean, he's just such a dream
and so kind and funny and like, you know, I
think the first time we wrote, I mean I think
it was Cut, which is the song I wrote with
Joel and Julia Michaels and Julia is a duet on
the song. But I just remember he sent the demo back,
(08:18):
and obviously I'm well aware of his work. He's an
extremely talented, successful writer, producer, but I was just so
blown away when he sent the Cut demo back, and yeah,
I was just like, please, anytime you're back in LA,
I would love to get on your books, and yeah,
we ended up writing Too Good. I think that next
(08:42):
time he was back in the States, and I just
I'm obsessed with him. I love that he takes my
wacky ideas because Cut and Two Good are very different
from each other, even though Joel you know, wrote and
produced them both with me. But I think that, Yeah,
that's like the fun part is he is just game
(09:03):
for whatever I throw at him when I walk into
the session, and he just executes it brilliantly. Like it's
just he's so so talented and so like so kind.
Maybe it's a maybe it's a New Zealand thing. You
are just really on earth human.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, I don't know, I'd like to say that, but
I think Joel's one of a guid Definitely. It's amazing
the extent to which he gives back to musicians and
the kind of you underground music community in New Zealand
as well. He's done so much for up and coming
musicians in New Zealand. You toured with the Chicks who
have actually also also been on the show before, So
how was how was that? I mean, we think of
(09:39):
them as being kind of trail blazing and outspoken in
these defining figures within country music. How was How was
your experience?
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I mean incredible. We did Canada and Europe UK with them,
and I mean they're my heroes. Like I remember they're
from uh North Texas as well. So like when they
put out that first album in like nineteen ninety, I
think it's like wide open spaces. I mean, I obviously
(10:10):
it was huge, but I was just so that really
like opened my mind to the possibilities of you know, songwriting,
of musicianship, because they're all incredible musicians, like multi instrumentalists.
Natalie's voice is just so like no one else on
this planet sounds like her. There's just and then just
(10:32):
the three of them together, I mean, it's just such
a powerful collaboration. And I just I also love that
they really champion songwriters like the Dixie or the Chicks
are how I discovered Patty Griffin, who's like one of
my favorite artists, songwriters heroes of all time, And that's
(10:53):
only because the Chicks recorded her song let Him Fly.
And so yeah, I just love that they like truly
love songwriters and they are incredible songwriters themselves. But yeah,
being on the road with them was just such a
dream and they are outside of their music, their allyship.
(11:13):
They're just going against the grain and stick like really
just staying within their morals so powerfully, like over decades.
It's just such a testament to like what they believe
in and just what good people they are. So yeah,
it was definitely one of the most like fun tours
(11:36):
I've gotten to do because they mean so much to me.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
Yeah, Yeah, they're incredible, like courageous women. It's yeah, I
can see that would have been so special. So I
think you were here in twenty eighteen, right with Nile Horn. Yeah,
I reckon when you get to New Zealand, you're going
to be like, whoa, things have changed in New Zealand
in that country music here is so big right now,
Like it's crazy the kind of the kind of change
(12:02):
that's happened in just the last couple of years. So
I wonder what's your scenes. Do you have any kind
of thoughts or ideas as to why country music is
stretching so far beyond its original routes and connecting with
different audiences at the moment.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
I mean, you'd have to tell me, like in New Zealand,
like what kind of country music is resonating.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Well, I mean so I would say country music in
the broadest sense, but even even little things right like
we've got brand new like iHeart streaming stations that are
focused on country because there's such a demand for a
range of country music at the moment that maybe didn't exist,
you know, you know, say ten years ago. And I
don't know if it's the lyricism or the storytelling or
(12:49):
something about the musicality itself, but clearly there's like a
growing audience of people in New Zealand who might never
have thought they would ever listen to anything that could
be deemed to be country music, who are really seeking
it out at the moment. And I think, I mean
the sense I get is that it's happening and not
some places around the world.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, it's definitely like a popular, more mainstream genre of
music because I mean, like when I was in junior
high high school, even in Texas, it was a very
small group of like teenagers that would admit to listening
to country music, like it wasn't considered cool at that time.
(13:29):
Like it's so different now. I think also with like
social media and younger people's access to it has also
made it this worldwide genre. And not just something that
the States has. But now I mean, like I think
people crave authenticity and that's kind of the bedrock of
(13:52):
the lyricism and storytelling of country music. But it's also
like it's an incredibly diverse genre, and I think like
every you know, ten years, like there's some genre that
becomes like more mainstream. I feel like for you know,
a very long time and still is. It's like hip
(14:13):
hop and R and B and country like was sort
of waiting in the wings for a while and now
it's like, you know, on charts that aren't just dedicated
to its own genre, like it's on you know, mainstream charts,
but no, I mean I think, yeah, it's just and
there's more you know, collaboration, like artists sort of like
(14:33):
cross genre being on each other's songs, like duets that crossover.
Like I mean, this isn't a country song, but I
was a country artist when I jumped on the middle
in twenty eighteen, and it brought a ton of people
to my work because you know, even though I was
(14:55):
successful in the States and like parts of UK, like
it wasn't you know, in Australia and so like when
I was boring with Nile. I think The Middle had
just come out and people knew that song, so it
felt like, okay, like it's introducing my work that's been
predominantly country and on country charts to the world through
(15:17):
this like eight M pop song. Yeah. So yeah, I
think music is just all around right now, like extremely
diverse and collaborative and you know, cross pollinated.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
It's a very smart analysis and a very very good
a very good word for it. Look, we're so delighted
with Dreamscle and so so pleased that you're going to
be headlining in New Zealand. I just hope that you're
going to carve out like a couple of days somewhere
so you can have a vacation while you're hear I
have some days.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Off like buffering in between. But no, I mean I'm
so excited. I feel like when I was there last,
we had a day off and we went on the
ferry to like the vineyards the wind Island. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I definitely need to carve out a day for that
because that was that was a dreamy.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
It's all about being present, you know. This is that
you got to lean into the dreamsicle ethos here, Yes.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Be present in your wine drunk.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Hey, it's such a pleasure to speak. I know how
busy you are, so we really appreciate it. All the
very best with Dreamsicle and we cannot wait to have
you in New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
So thank you. I can't wait to be there. I'm
counting it on the days.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
So good. That is Maren Morris. She is coming to
New Zealand. Tickets for her Dreamsicle tour are available through
ticket Master. We've got all the dates up at news
Talks HEDB dot co dot for.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
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