Andrew Saville joins Jack Tame to discuss the latest sports news.
The NPC final, Canterbury vs Otago, who will walk away with the trophy?
Jason Holland has retired as attack coach for the All Blacks, what's next for him?
And the White Ferns exit the cricket world cup following a difficult run in Sri Lanka.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at b Back in.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Twenty sixteen, I had the great pleasure and privilege of
going to see Bruce Springsteen perform at MetLife Stadium in
New Jersey. And at the time, it was his longest
ever concert. So he played for four hours. He and
the E Street Band played for four hours. I'm gonna
be honest with you, it was too long. By the end.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was like, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know, is there anyone here from a small town? Yep, yep,
I think I got the shtick bangs Bruce. Anyway, it
was an amazing thing to attend, you know. Anyway it was.
It was an amazing thing to attend. I'm very grateful
for it, but I'm also grateful that I'm not going
to another four hour concert anyway. I've double checked the
length of the Springsteen film, So Springsteen Delivered Me from
(00:56):
Nowhere is less than two and a half hours, so
ninety minutes shorter than that concert was at MetLife Stadium
a couple of years ago. But it stars Jeremy Allen
wa the guy from the Beer It's actually kind of
amazing how similar. He and young Bruce Springsteen look to
each other like he's perfectly cast. So we're gonna get
our film reviewers thoughts on that biopic very shortly. Right
(01:18):
now the time to catch it up with our sporto
Andrew Samil is him Jack.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'd love to go and see Springsteen in New Jersey.
That would be one of it was it was.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It was a bucketless thing.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Although I'd rather go and see HM at a smaller
venue I think than what is an eighty thousand seat
stadium that NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It wasn't an intimate experience. But and yeah, like I
was like two hours deepats like this has been amazing,
two and a half hours, depas like this really has
been amazing, three and a half hours. Defase, like you
know what I'm I think, I yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think maybe maybe he gets it. Maybe he gets
a cut of the food and beverage. So longer the year, obviously,
the more you spend. Now my understanding is that actor
didn't sing or doesn't sing, and didn't play and he's
never played guitar, and yeah, he he does an outstanding job.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, well have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I've seen I've seen enough snippets and you know how.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I've done the late the late the late night TV
show chat circuit to go, gee, this guy's good. He's
I mean, he's a he's a bit of a heart throb,
apparently Jeremy Allen White and so, and he's got that thing,
you know. Young Bruce Springsteen was you know, kind of
very fit and muscular and stuff and sort of has
a quite this is gonna sound weird, but quite like
(02:32):
a muscular neck. So when he's playing and crying and
and and singing and stuff, and on stage you often
see like he's all he looks really fain popping out.
That's it, you know what I mean. And so he's
sort of got that look. Absolutely nailed to reckon.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Anyway, speaking of speaking of baby, we were born to
run Otago versus Canterbury this afternoon in christ Church. I think, Jack,
I know who you'll be going for. And I'm as
far as the head's concerned, I'm sort of leaning a
little bit towards Canterbury because they've got a lot more
super rugby players in that team. They've got all blacks
(03:08):
on that team. They've got some big, big game experience,
even though they haven't won the NPC for seven eight years.
I think it is there's that big game experience as
a hometown advantage. However, gee, I've loved watching this Otago
team this year. Guys like Dylan Pledger, Lucas Casey, the
young flanker who are going to have long, long futures
in the game. They've been fantastic to watch. This Otago
(03:33):
team reminds me of the side of the nineties who
won the title a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
They play with a.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Lot of woomp up front, but also play with a
lot of abandoned throwing the ball around out wide.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So this should be a good game. Should be a
good game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, I think it'd be amazing. And as much as
of course the Hearts is Canterbury, the Heart also says
that if Canterbury were to go down and were to
get up, I'm not going to lose a moment's sleep.
I'd be delighted for a Tiger if they did get up. Yeah,
you know, I'm still the loyalties aren't being tested as such,
(04:09):
but it would be. It would be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think my head, my head goes with Canby because
of that big game experience. But the heart Rugby heart
would want to see You know, a province that hasn't
won it for nearly thirty years and only won it
twice in fifty years, wouldn't mind seeing Otago would It'd
be great for the game in the South too.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So how much are you reading into this situation with
Allback's assistant coach Jason Holland deciding not to hang around.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, Look, I think the bottom line is Jack if
he was still enjoying his role, yeah, and was offered
another deal in which I'd imagine he would have been
if he was enjoying it. Look, I think Jason Holland's
a pretty good coach. He had he had some good
a good run with the Hurricanes, a super stupid rugby
(04:59):
head coach. I think if he was enjoying the environment
that overused word, and if he was enjoying coaching and
loving coaching at that level, and let's face it, it's
a coach's dream job to be involved with your black somehow,
he would be staying on. I just don't think he's
enjoying that environment at the moment. And unfortunately I'm hearing
(05:19):
that from a few people right that things just continue
not to click in this all black side.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Maybe they will.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
On this Grand Slam tour, they get away from home,
they get away from it all four big big games
in a row, especially Ireland and England. Maybe they'll win
for in a row and things will pick up. But
I just think given another season of almost one step forward,
two steps back, you know, I'm hearing that that things
(05:48):
are going to have to improve if this team wants
to keep on winning consistently.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's interesting. I will watch the space, I guess,
especially with that upcoming Northern Tour and pretty disappointing in
the end for the White fans missing the semi final
in the World Cape.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, it is just just quickly on this. I think, Look,
no matter how hard they work, and I'm sure they have,
they try hard before the Cup and the you know,
the rain's been frustrating. Let's face, I still don't know
if they would have made the top four even if
those games hadn't been rained off. I think it's it's
a numbers game jack at that level and New Zealand
just doesn't have the playing base of these other nations. Yes,
(06:22):
I'd continue to do well in the odd T twenty
match and the odd T twenty tournament, but one day
is more a test of cricketing depth and talent, and
not only fifty overs, but then you move towards test matches,
which yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Team barely ever plays these days.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
If ever, it's a bigger test of depth and talent,
and I think this White Fun's team has.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Been found out. Will it improve in the future, I
hope so, yeah, I do too. I enjoy the game
this afternoon. It's gonna be a busy afternoon because you've
got AFC, awkand FC playing at five pm I think so,
the kick off in the NBC Finals just after four,
and then yeah AFC at five o'clock. Thank you very much,
said Andrew sevel Our.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sporto with us there for more from Saturday Morning with
Jack Tame. Listen live to News Talks at B from
nine am Saturday, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at b Back in.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Twenty sixteen, I had the great pleasure and privilege of
going to see Bruce Springsteen perform at MetLife Stadium in
New Jersey. And at the time, it was his longest
ever concert. So he played for four hours. He and
the E Street Band played for four hours. I'm gonna
be honest with you, it was too long. By the end.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
I was like, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
You know, is there anyone here from a small town? Yep, yep,
I think I got the shtick bangs Bruce. Anyway, it
was an amazing thing to attend, you know. Anyway it was.
It was an amazing thing to attend. I'm very grateful
for it, but I'm also grateful that I'm not going
to another four hour concert anyway. I've double checked the
length of the Springsteen film, So Springsteen Delivered Me from
(00:56):
Nowhere is less than two and a half hours, so
ninety minutes shorter than that concert was at MetLife Stadium
a couple of years ago. But it stars Jeremy Allen
wa the guy from the Beer It's actually kind of
amazing how similar. He and young Bruce Springsteen look to
each other like he's perfectly cast. So we're gonna get
our film reviewers thoughts on that biopic very shortly. Right
(01:18):
now the time to catch it up with our sporto
Andrew Samil is him Jack.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
I'd love to go and see Springsteen in New Jersey.
That would be one of it was it was.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It was a bucketless thing.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Although I'd rather go and see HM at a smaller
venue I think than what is an eighty thousand seat
stadium that NFL.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
It wasn't an intimate experience. But and yeah, like I
was like two hours deepats like this has been amazing,
two and a half hours, depas like this really has
been amazing, three and a half hours. Defase, like you
know what I'm I think, I yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I think maybe maybe he gets it. Maybe he gets
a cut of the food and beverage. So longer the year, obviously,
the more you spend. Now my understanding is that actor
didn't sing or doesn't sing, and didn't play and he's
never played guitar, and yeah, he he does an outstanding job.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, well have you seen it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
I've seen I've seen enough snippets and you know how.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
I've done the late the late the late night TV
show chat circuit to go, gee, this guy's good. He's
I mean, he's a he's a bit of a heart throb,
apparently Jeremy Allen White and so, and he's got that thing,
you know. Young Bruce Springsteen was you know, kind of
very fit and muscular and stuff and sort of has
a quite this is gonna sound weird, but quite like
(02:32):
a muscular neck. So when he's playing and crying and
and and singing and stuff, and on stage you often
see like he's all he looks really fain popping out.
That's it, you know what I mean. And so he's
sort of got that look. Absolutely nailed to reckon.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Anyway, speaking of speaking of baby, we were born to
run Otago versus Canterbury this afternoon in christ Church. I think, Jack,
I know who you'll be going for. And I'm as
far as the head's concerned, I'm sort of leaning a
little bit towards Canterbury because they've got a lot more
super rugby players in that team. They've got all blacks
(03:08):
on that team. They've got some big, big game experience,
even though they haven't won the NPC for seven eight years.
I think it is there's that big game experience as
a hometown advantage. However, gee, I've loved watching this Otago
team this year. Guys like Dylan Pledger, Lucas Casey, the
young flanker who are going to have long, long futures
in the game. They've been fantastic to watch. This Otago
(03:33):
team reminds me of the side of the nineties who
won the title a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
They play with a.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Lot of woomp up front, but also play with a
lot of abandoned throwing the ball around out wide.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
So this should be a good game. Should be a
good game.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, I think it'd be amazing. And as much as
of course the Hearts is Canterbury, the Heart also says
that if Canterbury were to go down and were to
get up, I'm not going to lose a moment's sleep.
I'd be delighted for a Tiger if they did get up. Yeah,
you know, I'm still the loyalties aren't being tested as such,
(04:09):
but it would be. It would be fantastic.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think my head, my head goes with Canby because
of that big game experience. But the heart Rugby heart
would want to see You know, a province that hasn't
won it for nearly thirty years and only won it
twice in fifty years, wouldn't mind seeing Otago would It'd
be great for the game in the South too.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
So how much are you reading into this situation with
Allback's assistant coach Jason Holland deciding not to hang around.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
Yeah, Look, I think the bottom line is Jack if
he was still enjoying his role, yeah, and was offered
another deal in which I'd imagine he would have been
if he was enjoying it. Look, I think Jason Holland's
a pretty good coach. He had he had some good
a good run with the Hurricanes, a super stupid rugby
(04:59):
head coach. I think if he was enjoying the environment
that overused word, and if he was enjoying coaching and
loving coaching at that level, and let's face it, it's
a coach's dream job to be involved with your black somehow,
he would be staying on. I just don't think he's
enjoying that environment at the moment. And unfortunately I'm hearing
(05:19):
that from a few people right that things just continue
not to click in this all black side.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Maybe they will.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
On this Grand Slam tour, they get away from home,
they get away from it all four big big games
in a row, especially Ireland and England. Maybe they'll win
for in a row and things will pick up. But
I just think given another season of almost one step forward,
two steps back, you know, I'm hearing that that things
(05:48):
are going to have to improve if this team wants
to keep on winning consistently.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, it's interesting. I will watch the space, I guess,
especially with that upcoming Northern Tour and pretty disappointing in
the end for the White fans missing the semi final
in the World Cape.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, it is just just quickly on this. I think, Look,
no matter how hard they work, and I'm sure they have,
they try hard before the Cup and the you know,
the rain's been frustrating. Let's face, I still don't know
if they would have made the top four even if
those games hadn't been rained off. I think it's it's
a numbers game jack at that level and New Zealand
just doesn't have the playing base of these other nations. Yes,
(06:22):
I'd continue to do well in the odd T twenty
match and the odd T twenty tournament, but one day
is more a test of cricketing depth and talent, and
not only fifty overs, but then you move towards test matches,
which yeah, this.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Team barely ever plays these days.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
If ever, it's a bigger test of depth and talent,
and I think this White Fun's team has.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Been found out. Will it improve in the future, I
hope so, yeah, I do too. I enjoy the game
this afternoon. It's gonna be a busy afternoon because you've
got AFC, awkand FC playing at five pm I think so,
the kick off in the NBC Finals just after four,
and then yeah AFC at five o'clock. Thank you very much,
said Andrew sevel Our.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Sporto with us there for more from Saturday Morning with
Jack Tame. Listen live to News Talks at B from
nine am Saturday, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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