October 31, 2025 • 8 mins
Pike River - (in cinemas) Two ordinary women who together stand up and take on the government, justice system and a company that will stop at nothing to protect itself, after the 2010 Pike River Mine explosion takes the lives of 29 men underground.
A House of Dynamite - (Netflix) Radars at Fort Greely, Alaska detect a nuclear missile. The president and his entourage must use the limited time they have to try to shoot down the missile before it reaches Chicago.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks. A'd be time to catch up with
our film review of Francisca. Rudkin has two film picks
for us this week, kicking off with Pike River, which
is just hit New Zealand cinema. So francisco Ers have
listen to that. There were thirty five miners down in
the mine.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
They don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Exactly what paman at the miners.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There's been an explosion at the mine. What happened up there?
We need to make sure the recovery is safe, recovery
all the men are dead.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I had the great privilege of seeing this a couple
of weeks ago. Francisca has been to see Pike River
as well, So tell us about the film.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm so excited to talk to you about a film
you've seen.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
First for everything. Eh.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, if I'm ever talking to some if anyone from
overseas is ever asking about the New Zealand film industry,
I say, look, we've got a pretty small film industry
in New Zealand, but we generally make films that matter,
and we tell stories that need to be told. And
I think with Pipe River, this is a really good
example of that. This story has been told from the
(01:18):
perspective of those closest to it, from the you know,
the perspective of the families, and an awful lot of
time and research went into your learning about their experiences
and what it has been like since this tragedy in
twenty ten, and in particular, in this film, we follow
the story of two remarkable women are Sonny Rockhouse and
(01:39):
Anna Osborne, and how they just basically refused to give
up the fight the justice for the men that they
lost in the mind. And you know, I know that
you've spoken to them as well, and I hate the privilege.
I'm hosting a couple of q and as with them
at the moment at Screamings, And you know, last night
I was saying, everybody has an opinion about Pipe River,
(02:01):
and everyone likes to share that opinion with them. They
everyone's a mine, expert Jack. You know, everyone's got an
opinion on whether we should get the men out and
we shouldn't it, all these kind of things. And they said,
what we wanted to do with this film was just
to lay our story out for people to actually see
what why we've been doing, what we've been doing, and
you know, they have been fighting incredibly hard and what
they have achieved is really remarkable. And I think that
(02:25):
that is what this film does. It kind of shows
us this story from a perspective that none of us,
you know, had access to. I think it also conjures
up for me. It conjured up an awful lot of emotion.
I mean, I've seen this film a couple of times,
so I've cried both times, but I've also laughed because
it's also an uplifting and at times funny film about friendship.
(02:47):
It's about the tragedy, It's about anger and loss and
a tragedy that should never have happened. But it's also
a very uplifting film jack about friendship and about advocacy
and what you can achieve. I hope that you how
did you find it? What emotions did it? Because it
also it brought up when I left, I found a
(03:08):
lot of shame as a New Zealander that we have
done so little for these family. There has been no
accountability whatsoever. But what happened to twenty nine men who
went to work one day and never came home.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think that was one of the defining feelings I
had watching the film, and I said that to Anna
and Soniel when they were with us on the show
a couple of weeks ago. It feels like the story
is unfinished and that there is this grave injustice that
has not been corrected or attended to or addressed sufficiently
(03:42):
in my view, And that is the sense you left with.
So most films when you watch them, have a sort
of conclusion that feels like, well, you know, we've kind
of you know, everything's kind of tied off. And the
sense I got with Pike River is that the story
hasn't yet been finished. And I hope that this film will,
(04:04):
you know, will stir a similar kind of response and
a lot of New Zealanders who will see this as
the injustice it is because for those of us who
haven't been directly affected, you know, the truth is that
over time, life goes on.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right. Yeah, And but I think we all collect we
all remember the time that we heard about Pipe River.
I mean I think collectively as a nation, we held
our breath and we held on to that hope. Yeah,
we were promised, you know that we were you know
that these men could be Okay, look, Jack, as far
as the craft of this film goes. It's absolutely stunning.
(04:38):
Melanie Linsky and Robin Malcolm are It's just a masterclass
in acting. The sound editing is brilliant, the cinematography is beautiful.
There are just haunting shots of the landscape which you know,
you feel the weight of that landscape on these men
who are still underground. The costume and makeup, the art department,
you know, everything has been thought through really thoroughly, and
(05:02):
it gives a sense of authenticity of what this small
community was like and things. So, you know, as far
as you know, the production of the film as well,
I think it's it's been made to a high standard
and made but a huge amount of respect and sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah. No, well, seid Well said, I think it's a
really important film. I hope everyone goes to see. Pike
Riverett is showing in cinemas now. Next up a film
that is screening on Netflix, something completely different. This is
a House of dynamite.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Approximately three minutes ago, we detected an ICBM over the Pacific.
Current flight trajectory is consistent with impact somewhere in the
continentally the United States. If we do not take steps
to neutralize our enemies now, we will lose our window
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So, Dan Dan, Dan, Right.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So this is Catherine Bigelow. I really like Catherine Bigelow
is a direct point break Zero, DAC's Duty, the hurt Locker.
She is really good with tension and draft and thrill.
She can just, you know, she just can bring all
this together and take you on an incredible sort of
ride and journey and things. House of Dynamite. It was
written by Noah Oppenheim. He was a former NBC News
(06:18):
chief and he also wrote Zero Day. People might have
been watching that on Netflix as well, starring Robert de Niro,
and this film describes nineteen minutes in which a missile
has launched from somewhere in the Pacific. We don't know
who has launched it. It is picked up by a
US Army base in Alaska, and then we kind of
follow what happens. It's flagged to the White House situation
room and everyone else it needs to know whether it's
(06:40):
analysts or national security agents or you know, the military
and things. Then everyone's kind.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of on a zoom.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We're all in a room together and I'm thinking, Ah,
this is perfect. This is so care from Bigelow territory.
She's going to put us in a room, and she's
going to amp up the tension. This is going to
be a great ride. I can't see what she does yet.
And I also thought of was like, good, where is
this going? Because this missile is only good. It's not
going to take very long to go up and come down, right,
So I was thinking, where's this film going. As it
turns out, Jack, it goes back to the beginning, and
we go back to the beginning a couple of times,
(07:07):
and we see this same story told through different points
of view, and I'm going to be honest with you,
I was a little bit disappointed by this. I found
it very unsatisfactory, basically because I did not get enough
information each time, or you know, yeah, more of enough
information each time we went back to the beginning to
feel like it was adding to the story. I think
(07:29):
what she is trying to say here, Jack, and in
light of and I think this was a very good
This sort of added a new spin to this film.
And light of Trump treating to rest out nuclear testing,
I think what the message here is saying is that
the decision makers in a moment like this, in a
nuclear strike, need to be the best position knowledgeable and
(07:52):
trained people in the room possibly to make that decision.
So that does resonate a little bit more, maybe in
light of you know, as I said about, you know,
the sight of the world and things. But I love her,
but I just I did not find this sounds fine.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, interesting, Okay, that's like you say, she's an amazing
director usually, so yeah, maybe this is a rare myss
from Catherine Bigelow. So that's a House of Dynamite and
Francesca's first film was Pike River. Pike Rivers and Cinema
is The House of Dynamite is on Netflix. All the
details for those films will be on the News Talks.
He'd be website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.
(08:28):
Listen live to News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks. A'd be time to catch up with
our film review of Francisca. Rudkin has two film picks
for us this week, kicking off with Pike River, which
is just hit New Zealand cinema. So francisco Ers have
listen to that. There were thirty five miners down in
the mine.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
They don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Exactly what paman at the miners.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
There's been an explosion at the mine. What happened up there?
We need to make sure the recovery is safe, recovery
all the men are dead.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
I had the great privilege of seeing this a couple
of weeks ago. Francisca has been to see Pike River
as well, So tell us about the film.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm so excited to talk to you about a film
you've seen.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
First for everything. Eh.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hey, if I'm ever talking to some if anyone from
overseas is ever asking about the New Zealand film industry,
I say, look, we've got a pretty small film industry
in New Zealand, but we generally make films that matter,
and we tell stories that need to be told. And
I think with Pipe River, this is a really good
example of that. This story has been told from the
(01:18):
perspective of those closest to it, from the you know,
the perspective of the families, and an awful lot of
time and research went into your learning about their experiences
and what it has been like since this tragedy in
twenty ten, and in particular, in this film, we follow
the story of two remarkable women are Sonny Rockhouse and
(01:39):
Anna Osborne, and how they just basically refused to give
up the fight the justice for the men that they
lost in the mind. And you know, I know that
you've spoken to them as well, and I hate the privilege.
I'm hosting a couple of q and as with them
at the moment at Screamings, And you know, last night
I was saying, everybody has an opinion about Pipe River,
(02:01):
and everyone likes to share that opinion with them. They
everyone's a mine, expert Jack. You know, everyone's got an
opinion on whether we should get the men out and
we shouldn't it, all these kind of things. And they said,
what we wanted to do with this film was just
to lay our story out for people to actually see
what why we've been doing, what we've been doing, and
you know, they have been fighting incredibly hard and what
they have achieved is really remarkable. And I think that
(02:25):
that is what this film does. It kind of shows
us this story from a perspective that none of us,
you know, had access to. I think it also conjures
up for me. It conjured up an awful lot of emotion.
I mean, I've seen this film a couple of times,
so I've cried both times, but I've also laughed because
it's also an uplifting and at times funny film about friendship.
(02:47):
It's about the tragedy, It's about anger and loss and
a tragedy that should never have happened. But it's also
a very uplifting film jack about friendship and about advocacy
and what you can achieve. I hope that you how
did you find it? What emotions did it? Because it
also it brought up when I left, I found a
(03:08):
lot of shame as a New Zealander that we have
done so little for these family. There has been no
accountability whatsoever. But what happened to twenty nine men who
went to work one day and never came home.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I think that was one of the defining feelings I
had watching the film, and I said that to Anna
and Soniel when they were with us on the show
a couple of weeks ago. It feels like the story
is unfinished and that there is this grave injustice that
has not been corrected or attended to or addressed sufficiently
(03:42):
in my view, And that is the sense you left with.
So most films when you watch them, have a sort
of conclusion that feels like, well, you know, we've kind
of you know, everything's kind of tied off. And the
sense I got with Pike River is that the story
hasn't yet been finished. And I hope that this film will,
(04:04):
you know, will stir a similar kind of response and
a lot of New Zealanders who will see this as
the injustice it is because for those of us who
haven't been directly affected, you know, the truth is that
over time, life goes on.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Right. Yeah, And but I think we all collect we
all remember the time that we heard about Pipe River.
I mean I think collectively as a nation, we held
our breath and we held on to that hope. Yeah,
we were promised, you know that we were you know
that these men could be Okay, look, Jack, as far
as the craft of this film goes. It's absolutely stunning.
(04:38):
Melanie Linsky and Robin Malcolm are It's just a masterclass
in acting. The sound editing is brilliant, the cinematography is beautiful.
There are just haunting shots of the landscape which you know,
you feel the weight of that landscape on these men
who are still underground. The costume and makeup, the art department,
you know, everything has been thought through really thoroughly, and
(05:02):
it gives a sense of authenticity of what this small
community was like and things. So, you know, as far
as you know, the production of the film as well,
I think it's it's been made to a high standard
and made but a huge amount of respect and sensitivity.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Yeah. No, well, seid Well said, I think it's a
really important film. I hope everyone goes to see. Pike
Riverett is showing in cinemas now. Next up a film
that is screening on Netflix, something completely different. This is
a House of dynamite.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Approximately three minutes ago, we detected an ICBM over the Pacific.
Current flight trajectory is consistent with impact somewhere in the
continentally the United States. If we do not take steps
to neutralize our enemies now, we will lose our window
to do.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
So, Dan Dan, Dan, Right.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
So this is Catherine Bigelow. I really like Catherine Bigelow
is a direct point break Zero, DAC's Duty, the hurt Locker.
She is really good with tension and draft and thrill.
She can just, you know, she just can bring all
this together and take you on an incredible sort of
ride and journey and things. House of Dynamite. It was
written by Noah Oppenheim. He was a former NBC News
(06:18):
chief and he also wrote Zero Day. People might have
been watching that on Netflix as well, starring Robert de Niro,
and this film describes nineteen minutes in which a missile
has launched from somewhere in the Pacific. We don't know
who has launched it. It is picked up by a
US Army base in Alaska, and then we kind of
follow what happens. It's flagged to the White House situation
room and everyone else it needs to know whether it's
(06:40):
analysts or national security agents or you know, the military
and things. Then everyone's kind.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of on a zoom.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
We're all in a room together and I'm thinking, Ah,
this is perfect. This is so care from Bigelow territory.
She's going to put us in a room, and she's
going to amp up the tension. This is going to
be a great ride. I can't see what she does yet.
And I also thought of was like, good, where is
this going? Because this missile is only good. It's not
going to take very long to go up and come down, right,
So I was thinking, where's this film going. As it
turns out, Jack, it goes back to the beginning, and
we go back to the beginning a couple of times,
(07:07):
and we see this same story told through different points
of view, and I'm going to be honest with you,
I was a little bit disappointed by this. I found
it very unsatisfactory, basically because I did not get enough
information each time, or you know, yeah, more of enough
information each time we went back to the beginning to
feel like it was adding to the story. I think
(07:29):
what she is trying to say here, Jack, and in
light of and I think this was a very good
This sort of added a new spin to this film.
And light of Trump treating to rest out nuclear testing,
I think what the message here is saying is that
the decision makers in a moment like this, in a
nuclear strike, need to be the best position knowledgeable and
(07:52):
trained people in the room possibly to make that decision.
So that does resonate a little bit more, maybe in
light of you know, as I said about, you know,
the sight of the world and things. But I love her,
but I just I did not find this sounds fine.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, interesting, Okay, that's like you say, she's an amazing
director usually, so yeah, maybe this is a rare myss
from Catherine Bigelow. So that's a House of Dynamite and
Francesca's first film was Pike River. Pike Rivers and Cinema
is The House of Dynamite is on Netflix. All the
details for those films will be on the News Talks.
He'd be website for more from Saturday Morning with Jack Tame.
(08:28):
Listen live to News Talks he'd be from nine am Saturday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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