November 28, 2025 • 9 mins
Train Dreams
A logger leads a life of quiet grace as he experiences love and loss during an era of monumental change in early 20th-century America.
Christmas Karma
A hard-nosed businessman, Mr. Sood, is forced to confront his past, present, and future over one fateful Christmas Eve —guided by three unforgettable spirits— on a journey toward compassion and redemption.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at b oh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, and that brings old skeletons when our ladies could
be nicking the most of hard time. In his spad
move put a man in.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This tonight, excicularly you do anything for me.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
The morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
That is Ed's share on the songs called Skeletons. So
he's just dropped a deluxe edition of his most recent
album Play. The first version of Play had thirteen tracks, right,
pretty reasonable, pretty standard. The deluxe edition has twenty seven,
so he's more than double the initial count. But I'm
sure the d fans won't be upset about that, right.
(00:58):
It is twenty two minutes to ten on News Talks.
Francisca Rudkin has our film reviewers. She's here with us
this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Killed he good.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hey, We're going to be talking to James Vanderbilt, the
director of Nuremberg after thirteen o'clock this morning. I know
that you're probably going to do that next week, but
have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I have, and I'm very excited to say that. We
are also talking to Russell.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Krauss tomorrow, but we're going to talk about Nuremberg, but
also going to talk about rugby league.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And winning Oscars and singing and all sorts of stuff.
Do you think, really it's fabulous.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Do you think he's going to be like he's an
Oscar's territory?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Possibly, yeah, possibly, And yeah, and he's really interesting about them.
I ask him, you know, whether he gets involved with
the hype and he's really interesting about it is in
my twenties, I was all in it was really important.
And he has quite a different approach to it now
and quite a different approach to It's a fascinating interview.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, very good, fantastic, Oh it's bas Okay, So we've
got we've got a couple of films to talk through
this morning. Let us begin with a film streaming on
it Flix at the moment. This is Train Dreams.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This is Jim not just on the boat. We just
cut down trees with Ben here five hundred years I've said,
some man Saul where they're recognized it or not?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, that is Trained Dreams. Tell us about it franchise.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh look, the trailer did not promote that film.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well I could only understand what he was saying at first,
but yeah, there is.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That watching this film was the best part of my week.
This is a devastatingly beautiful film on Netflix. It's been
going into cinemas just very briefly before hitting Netflix, and
that is so that it can be eligible for the
Award Season next year. Directed by Clint bent Me, It's
based on a novala by Dennis Johnson. It stars Joel Edgerton,
(03:03):
Flisty Jones, and William H.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Macy.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
It look, if full on actions your kind of thing,
and you know comedy and.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Stuff is your kind of thing, this isn't a film
for you. This is a film for the discerning film lover, an.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Art house lover, someone who was really happy just to
sit and let a film unfold, and you just kind
of get drawn into this beautiful meditation of life and
what it all means and its purpose and.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Things it really is. It really is quite stunning, and
it's really a story. It just about an ordinary man's life.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Look, we follow that this character Robert for eighty years
of his life.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He was an awphume.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
He doesn't know who his parents were or how they died,
but he was sort of brought up in Idaho and
he kind of wandered for a bit and then became
a logger and was doing a lot of work. This
is at this sort of the beginning of the nineteen
hundreds on the Great Northern Railway. And then he finds
purpose in his life and he meets Gladys played by
Felicity Jones. Johel Edgerton is Robert, and they fall in
(04:02):
love and they build this beautiful cabin by river.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
They have a very simple life.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They work hard, you know, and just as they're sort
of starting to get to a point in their lives where,
you know, Robert may no longer have to leave home
for months on end for the logging season, a tragedy
strikes and Robert had then has to kind of recover
from that, and.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
We just follow him. He's an observer of the world.
He is haunted by.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
An awful thing that he saw happen when he was
working on the railway, whereby one of his coworkers, a
Chinese worker was thrown off a bridge and killed. And
he's haunted by that, and it kind of he feels
that something bad is about to happen and he because
he couldn't stop that, that that was going to affect
his life.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
But he's just an observer.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The amazing thing about the period of time that this
film was shot is that the whole world is changing.
It's gone from a very manual world to technology and innovation,
and this train is opening up America and he goes
from an acts to a chainsaw. So we're also just
seeing how the world changed so dramatically over these eighty
years of his life, and he's just trying to find
(05:12):
what his purpose and his meaning is. Joel Edgerton is fantastic.
I think what I loved about him was he was
happy to be that observer. I can imagine another actor
coming in and going, oh my gosh, I'm going to win
an Oscar for this and I'm going.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
To really throw myself at There'll be a lot more done.
But he doesn't. He just embodies this person and this character.
It's just the thought. I mean, I did cry away.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It was just it was just a couple of hours
of absolute beauty.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This week. I loved it. So it's on Netflix. This
is a little quiet yeah, just you do just need
to sink into it. It's slow and ponderous. It's a
slow burner, but I just loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
That sounds fantastic. Okay, thank you, so that's Trained Dreams.
It's streaming on Netflix at the moment. Your next film
for us is in cinemas. It is completely different, to
say the least. This is Christmas karma.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
These kids should be arrested for making such a terrible noise.
Somebody's on the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And listen. Free Spirits will come to you tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So, this is a Bollywood inspired British musical nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I know that there are people out there that the
minute December hurts, they just love tuning through Christmas film.
So if you are looking for something a little bit
sentimental in sweet, you might want to try Christmas Camera.
I don't know how many adaptations of Charles Dickens a
Christmas Carol there has been.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's like it's its own form genre, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And this one is directed by Grinda Chada who did
Bend It like Beckham, so I was really interested to
see what she did with this film.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And it is this crazy.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Mix kind of Bollywood and mine and then it's infused
with kind of Latin and South Asian and African culture
and history. It all takes place in London. The Swift's
throw in all these ideas of this film, and some
of them stick and some of them don't. I think
probably the main problem is that the budget for this
film isn't quite what it really needs to be, so
(07:18):
it looks it feels a little bit more like sort
of a TV movie or a TV series, and it
does the film, and I think if a little bit
more money been thrown it, it might have been able
to pull it off a little bit better. Knar Laya
from Big Bang Theory. He stars as our scrooge, mister sud.
He's exactly as you expect. He's grumpy, he's this typefisted businessman.
He's a Hindu, so he doesn't understand also why in London,
(07:40):
why it's filled with all these different cultures, many of
them who don't believe in Christmas, who drop everything to
celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But he's got this really.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Interesting backstory Jack and he's part of the Ugandan South
Asian community that was expelled and sent to Britain and
that's happened when he was a child. So this is
the interesting thing, right, Some of this is really kind
of obvious and fun, and then there's these really interesting
kind of other aspects in there. It talks about racism,
and racial discrimination and re fugees and fitting in and
(08:07):
assimilation that is all these other ideas forgiveness and things.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
But it's all a bit nutty. I mean it studs Hu.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Bonnieville, who's in it for about five minutes even long
Goora starts as one of the spirits, Billy Porter, and
boy George turns up, and even boy George to me,
so if you didn't really look like you when he
was doing there. The music's by Gary Barlow, to be honest,
the songs quite memorable.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So look, it's just it's just.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's a bit of Christmas. Yeah, if you love, if you.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Like Christmas, I think you'll probably Christmas movies and you
don't mind them. Send me one sweet.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
There are some moving moments in this film, but I
just think, wow, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, okay, it sounds entertaining, if not necessarily great,
like yeah, yeah, busy. So that's Christmas karma that's showing
in cinemas. Francesca's first film is Train Dreams. That's the
one on Netflix, and both of those films will be
up on the News Talk He'd be a website.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
For more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live
to news Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Saturday Morning with Jack Team podcast
from News Talks at b oh.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yeah, and that brings old skeletons when our ladies could
be nicking the most of hard time. In his spad
move put a man in.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
This tonight, excicularly you do anything for me.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
The morning.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
That is Ed's share on the songs called Skeletons. So
he's just dropped a deluxe edition of his most recent
album Play. The first version of Play had thirteen tracks, right,
pretty reasonable, pretty standard. The deluxe edition has twenty seven,
so he's more than double the initial count. But I'm
sure the d fans won't be upset about that, right.
(00:58):
It is twenty two minutes to ten on News Talks.
Francisca Rudkin has our film reviewers. She's here with us
this morning.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Killed he good.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Hey, We're going to be talking to James Vanderbilt, the
director of Nuremberg after thirteen o'clock this morning. I know
that you're probably going to do that next week, but
have you seen it yet?
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I have, and I'm very excited to say that. We
are also talking to Russell.
Speaker 5 (01:20):
Krauss tomorrow, but we're going to talk about Nuremberg, but
also going to talk about rugby league.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
And winning Oscars and singing and all sorts of stuff.
Do you think, really it's fabulous.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Do you think he's going to be like he's an
Oscar's territory?
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (01:35):
Possibly, yeah, possibly, And yeah, and he's really interesting about them.
I ask him, you know, whether he gets involved with
the hype and he's really interesting about it is in
my twenties, I was all in it was really important.
And he has quite a different approach to it now
and quite a different approach to It's a fascinating interview.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Oh, very good, fantastic, Oh it's bas Okay, So we've
got we've got a couple of films to talk through
this morning. Let us begin with a film streaming on
it Flix at the moment. This is Train Dreams.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
This is Jim not just on the boat. We just
cut down trees with Ben here five hundred years I've said,
some man Saul where they're recognized it or not?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Okay, that is Trained Dreams. Tell us about it franchise.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Oh look, the trailer did not promote that film.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Well I could only understand what he was saying at first,
but yeah, there is.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
That watching this film was the best part of my week.
This is a devastatingly beautiful film on Netflix. It's been
going into cinemas just very briefly before hitting Netflix, and
that is so that it can be eligible for the
Award Season next year. Directed by Clint bent Me, It's
based on a novala by Dennis Johnson. It stars Joel Edgerton,
(03:03):
Flisty Jones, and William H.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Macy.
Speaker 5 (03:06):
It look, if full on actions your kind of thing,
and you know comedy and.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
Stuff is your kind of thing, this isn't a film
for you. This is a film for the discerning film lover, an.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Art house lover, someone who was really happy just to
sit and let a film unfold, and you just kind
of get drawn into this beautiful meditation of life and
what it all means and its purpose and.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Things it really is. It really is quite stunning, and
it's really a story. It just about an ordinary man's life.
Speaker 5 (03:34):
Look, we follow that this character Robert for eighty years
of his life.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
He was an awphume.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
He doesn't know who his parents were or how they died,
but he was sort of brought up in Idaho and
he kind of wandered for a bit and then became
a logger and was doing a lot of work. This
is at this sort of the beginning of the nineteen
hundreds on the Great Northern Railway. And then he finds
purpose in his life and he meets Gladys played by
Felicity Jones. Johel Edgerton is Robert, and they fall in
(04:02):
love and they build this beautiful cabin by river.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
They have a very simple life.
Speaker 5 (04:07):
They work hard, you know, and just as they're sort
of starting to get to a point in their lives where,
you know, Robert may no longer have to leave home
for months on end for the logging season, a tragedy
strikes and Robert had then has to kind of recover
from that, and.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
We just follow him. He's an observer of the world.
He is haunted by.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
An awful thing that he saw happen when he was
working on the railway, whereby one of his coworkers, a
Chinese worker was thrown off a bridge and killed. And
he's haunted by that, and it kind of he feels
that something bad is about to happen and he because
he couldn't stop that, that that was going to affect
his life.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
But he's just an observer.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
The amazing thing about the period of time that this
film was shot is that the whole world is changing.
It's gone from a very manual world to technology and innovation,
and this train is opening up America and he goes
from an acts to a chainsaw. So we're also just
seeing how the world changed so dramatically over these eighty
years of his life, and he's just trying to find
(05:12):
what his purpose and his meaning is. Joel Edgerton is fantastic.
I think what I loved about him was he was
happy to be that observer. I can imagine another actor
coming in and going, oh my gosh, I'm going to win
an Oscar for this and I'm going.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
To really throw myself at There'll be a lot more done.
But he doesn't. He just embodies this person and this character.
It's just the thought. I mean, I did cry away.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
It was just it was just a couple of hours
of absolute beauty.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
This week. I loved it. So it's on Netflix. This
is a little quiet yeah, just you do just need
to sink into it. It's slow and ponderous. It's a
slow burner, but I just loved it.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
That sounds fantastic. Okay, thank you, so that's Trained Dreams.
It's streaming on Netflix at the moment. Your next film
for us is in cinemas. It is completely different, to
say the least. This is Christmas karma.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
These kids should be arrested for making such a terrible noise.
Somebody's on the Northwest.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And listen. Free Spirits will come to you tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
So, this is a Bollywood inspired British musical nuts.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
I know that there are people out there that the
minute December hurts, they just love tuning through Christmas film.
So if you are looking for something a little bit
sentimental in sweet, you might want to try Christmas Camera.
I don't know how many adaptations of Charles Dickens a
Christmas Carol there has been.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
It's like it's its own form genre, to be honest
with you.
Speaker 5 (06:47):
And this one is directed by Grinda Chada who did
Bend It like Beckham, so I was really interested to
see what she did with this film.
Speaker 4 (06:55):
And it is this crazy.
Speaker 5 (06:57):
Mix kind of Bollywood and mine and then it's infused
with kind of Latin and South Asian and African culture
and history. It all takes place in London. The Swift's
throw in all these ideas of this film, and some
of them stick and some of them don't. I think
probably the main problem is that the budget for this
film isn't quite what it really needs to be, so
(07:18):
it looks it feels a little bit more like sort
of a TV movie or a TV series, and it
does the film, and I think if a little bit
more money been thrown it, it might have been able
to pull it off a little bit better. Knar Laya
from Big Bang Theory. He stars as our scrooge, mister sud.
He's exactly as you expect. He's grumpy, he's this typefisted businessman.
He's a Hindu, so he doesn't understand also why in London,
(07:40):
why it's filled with all these different cultures, many of
them who don't believe in Christmas, who drop everything to
celebrate Christmas.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
But he's got this really.
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Interesting backstory Jack and he's part of the Ugandan South
Asian community that was expelled and sent to Britain and
that's happened when he was a child. So this is
the interesting thing, right, Some of this is really kind
of obvious and fun, and then there's these really interesting
kind of other aspects in there. It talks about racism,
and racial discrimination and re fugees and fitting in and
(08:07):
assimilation that is all these other ideas forgiveness and things.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
But it's all a bit nutty. I mean it studs Hu.
Speaker 5 (08:13):
Bonnieville, who's in it for about five minutes even long
Goora starts as one of the spirits, Billy Porter, and
boy George turns up, and even boy George to me,
so if you didn't really look like you when he
was doing there. The music's by Gary Barlow, to be honest,
the songs quite memorable.
Speaker 4 (08:28):
So look, it's just it's just.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
It's a bit of Christmas. Yeah, if you love, if you.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Like Christmas, I think you'll probably Christmas movies and you
don't mind them. Send me one sweet.
Speaker 5 (08:38):
There are some moving moments in this film, but I
just think, wow, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yeah yeah, okay, it sounds entertaining, if not necessarily great,
like yeah, yeah, busy. So that's Christmas karma that's showing
in cinemas. Francesca's first film is Train Dreams. That's the
one on Netflix, and both of those films will be
up on the News Talk He'd be a website.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
For more From Saturday Morning with Jack Tame. Listen live
to news Talks ed B from nine am Saturday, or
follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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