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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
All right, let's dive into Fan five because we had
to talk to Tom Pelisero of the NFL Network in the.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Next sex time for Fan five on the Power Trip
presented by Builders and Remodelers.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
He thanks Builders and Remodelers.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
In fact, saus one of the first questions we can
ask Tom Pelosaro in the next segment has nothing to
do with Vikings football, though we can talk a lot
about the Vikings and the Browns in the next segment.
But you know, this year we started a Power Trip survivor.
Yes we did, mainly because I won the Church Challenge
and you guys didn't want me to have immunity.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
That's fine.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
You couldn't think of any punishment.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
There's always that. The picks this week are a little
bit interesting. I did switch to the last second. Yeah,
the Niners are decimated. So I swapped. I had the
Cardinals all week and then this morning I changed to
the Rams. I'm like, look, the Rams better win tonight
when they have mac Joes than nobody else. So about
half the teams left are on the Cardinals yep. The

(01:16):
other half are on the Rams yep. And as you
just heard, Chris made his picks earlier in the week
for the rest of the season. He just wanted to
make sure that he didn't go Marnie on it and forget,
so he made picks for the rest of the year.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
It looks like he forgot.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
He forgot because he has the Ravens, which on paper,
Ravens versus what.

Speaker 5 (01:37):
Texans Texans both one and three.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
Not a bad pick, right, The Ravens are the better
team of the two, but Lamar might not play, and
so we're talking about Cooper Rush and essentially a.

Speaker 5 (01:48):
Coin flip, and the I don't think he knows that.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
The Viking perversion of the injury injury report is the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
They're extremely banged up. Yep. They're a point and a
half underdog at home.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
So one of the first point and a half underdog
at home, and Chris hasn't been survivor, so.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
It's the team that ye did. If Lamar plays, they're
gonna win.

Speaker 2 (02:10):
But if he doesn't, Chris might be out because he
essentially fell asleep at the wheel, which happens.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Well, that's fun. I don't and he doesn't care.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
Hey.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
By the way, we've been talking all week about how
the over under for the Vikings Browns is at thirty
six and a half, right lowest of the week. Profootballtalk
dot com did a story it's the lowest of the
season so far through five weeks, not just this week.
That is the lowest total of the twenty twenty five
NFL season thirty six and a half. The previous low
for this season was Week one Steelers and Jets was

(02:41):
thirty eight, and that easily hit the.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Over at thirty four to thirty two. Paull your hands up.
Both of their starting cornerbacks did not practice. Their best
defensive player, Kyle Hamilton, is limited, their best run stopper.
They put on the IR I think season ending IR
on Tuesday. Jackson did not practice. One of their tackles
was limited, another defensive player was limited, their center was limited,

(03:08):
and then their fullback, who is the best guy that
blocks her Derrick Henry. He didn't practice with a calf injury.
They're inside linebacker didn't practice, and their starting left tackle
didn't practice.

Speaker 6 (03:20):
Well.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
If they have fourteen people on the ir.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
If the depleted Niners win the night or the terrible,
terrible Titans went on Sunday, we're gonna lose half the
field either way. If Chris fell asleep at the wheel
and the Ravens find a way to lose because Cooper
Rush can't get it done, we could be down to
three people by Monday.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
I've saw it was last week. I don't know why.

Speaker 3 (03:44):
Who did the Titans played somebody last week? Where I
was playing in fantasy doesn't matter. And that is a
horrifically bad team.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
They've lost what ten in a row, beating back to
last year or something like that, ten or alloted.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
They've lost twenty to twelve, thirty three to nineteen forty one,
twenty and.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
Twenty six nothing. Yeah, fun took Baltimore. I mean, I'm
mount What do I have to say?

Speaker 2 (04:10):
It isn't I switches because I just I know the
Cardinals aren't great and the Christs are terrible.

Speaker 5 (04:14):
Into it a little well. I just the injury report
talked me into it.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It's if MATC.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Jones had Juwan Jennings and Rocky Pierce all tonight, I
probably would not have switched. But he's got no options.
He's got McCaffrey and nobody else. Until the defensive.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Line of the Rams is very good, they're just really
short over by Thursday.

Speaker 5 (04:32):
You got that going for you. That's a good part.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
But even if I'm out, I can just stop worrying
about it. Then on Sunday you can cheer for Houston
Fair Fair the Ravens, Hogs, the Ravens.

Speaker 5 (04:47):
The Ravens.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
The Gophers take on number one Ohio State six thirty
this Saturday.

Speaker 5 (04:54):
Right here on the fan, You're home for Golden Gopher football.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
The Ohio State Buckeyes are twenty three and a half
point favorites.

Speaker 3 (04:59):
They are four or no. The Gophers are.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Three and one.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, you gotta watch right. Like I said, I just
hope it doesn't screw up the SNL.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
I start at ten thirty, right on time. Don't push
the eleven o'clock or the ten o'clock news back. I
hate that garbage. Get that game done in time, so
we can start the news at ten SNL at ten thirty.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
Yeah, I think, as.

Speaker 3 (05:25):
Conzuemius broke down earlier, this is a hammer of an
Ohio State team. They they are good everywhere. Defensively, they're outstanding.
It'll be loud, I think he said off the air,
what of all the third and longs their defense has faced?
They've given up third and six are longer? They've given

(05:47):
up one.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Well, and we're the opposite run all the numbers about
third and long. The Vikings have essentially not we're talking
about you're talking about the Gophers. Sorry you say the Gophers? Yeah, yeah,
and then I do win meat sauce on it for sure.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
Hey, I thought I wasn't listening though, I wasn't listening
to meet sauce. No, I completely meet sauce that one.
So they've they've given up one third and long all year,
all year, Third and six are longer. I think can
see me set off the air. Ohio State has given
up one and what is the number?

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Five and a half points a game they've given them yep, yeah,
face Drake Lincy.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
No, they haven't. And he was very good, very good.
But the Rutgers secondary is terrible, but he still looked great.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
I did.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I did not care for the fact that Ben basically
is like Miles Garrett's play.

Speaker 5 (06:36):
Yeah, he's probably.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
I didn't think he'd say he's more worried about this
game than I didn't think he would that that kind
of caught me off guard. How about this quickly for
a thing that nobody but like four people care about.
So in the NFL draft this year, they Browns had
the second pick. They moved back from two to five
and got a first round pick in next year's draft
and got the fifth overall pick. They took Mason Graham.

(07:01):
The Jags traded up and got Travis Hunter. There are
reports already that Travis Hunter is a bust, and that's
are you seeing how little he's playing on defense? Fairly,
but he's barely playing on offense. He barely plays. Yeah,
I don't know, man. They gave up a ton to
take him, and a lot of people took him high

(07:23):
in fantasy leagues because of the you know, a lot
of people said that he was the best wide receiver
in the draft. He barely plays. I think the best
play he has so far in four or five games
is his blocking on a third down or whatever. It's
a weird bit.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
I haven't seen him play at all yet this year.

Speaker 3 (07:39):
All I've all I remember, though, is what people were
concerned about beforehand, that if you're going to take him
in the top five, he has to be either an
elite receiver or an elite cornerback.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
You can just be really good at both, because that's
a cool gimmick.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
You're like, oh cool, a really good wide receiver a
really good corner If you're not a shutdown corner or
a game changing wide receiver, can't take either in the
top five, right, So if that's what he is, I
know it's early, it's four games, but hey, and the
Jags are better than we all thought too. Yeah, they
have a good coach. Man.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Think if he gets better because so far it's trending
the right way.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
I don't know if this is one of those revival
renaissance years for Trevor Lawrence or not. But everybody's really
down on Trevor Lawrence. But the Jags are playing pretty
well so far. They're three and one and nine. Who
do they in a terrible division? Really bad division? And
I don't who do they play this weekend? Hang on
one second, hang on one of us. The Gophers they

(08:34):
do They're forty five metshats they play?

Speaker 5 (08:39):
Hang on? Do they play? It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
No, We'll talk to Tom Pello Sarah on a second.
We'll ask him about the Lamar Jackson situation. See if
Chris is screwed. We'll talk about the Minnesota Vikings injury
report and the Browns game Sunday morning right here on
the fan eight thirty kickoff against six thirty pre game
with Muss and the rest of the Vikings pregame show,
including Hawkins Sauce. Around seven to fifteen, should I set

(09:05):
my alarm for seven fourteen just in case I oversleep?
Because I normally get up about six on Sunday same
the old body clock wakes me up, so I'll be
up before that. But to be great, I'm gonna set
my alarm for seven to fourteen just in case.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Paul, Yeah, because I want to hear you. Oh that's
kind of you.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
Replied, Just over sleep on it, Tom Bellisaro, next.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
Your scers, Hey Rubes.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
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Speaker 5 (09:44):
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(10:07):
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Speaker 2 (10:22):
All right, welcome back to the Power to At Morning show.
It is Thursday, a little after eight twenty. It's eight
twenty five, which means it's time for.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
Tom Pellasaro of the NFL Network thanks to our friends
at bell Bank.

Speaker 5 (10:32):
Hey, good morning, Tom, How are you good morning?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
I am fantastic.

Speaker 3 (10:36):
How you guys doing We're just doing it fantastically well
as well.

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Ben Lieber is in England. Chris Hockey's in England. I
don't know why you can't get sent to England. NFL
Networks got a budget for that. You could have done
the double Ireland England trip. But whatever, it looks like
you're stuck at home. No comment Cory, Oh, okay, Okay,
we'll move on to the next part. Okay, let's start
with this. So we were just talking last segment that
you know, we have a Power Trip survivor this year,

(11:01):
and Chris took Baltimore, and we're pretty convinced he took him,
like four days ago. I don't think Chris realizes that
Lamar Jackson might not play and the Cooper rush might start.
What it's the latest that you're hearing, is is Lamar
slated to start or not on Sunday?

Speaker 6 (11:16):
Well, I mean, here's what we know. He has a
hamstring injury. John Harbaugh said there is no way he
could have gone back into that game, even if the
score were more competitive last week. Knowing Lamar's play style,
it's hard to imagine that a hamstring injury that keeps
you from returning to a game on one Sunday is
magically going to heal enough for you to be out
there the following Sunday. Having said that, there are a

(11:39):
lot of examples through the course of time of Lamar
Jackson not practicing most of the week and then just
kind of magically healing himself and being able to be
out there, whether it was through illness or injury, so
it bears monitoring. We'll see if he practices at all.
I would not think that he would play without practicing.
And he also took at the schedule. They've got to
buy in week seven hamstring injuries, I mean, depending on

(12:01):
the grade. Obviously the son that are very severe, but
even if it's a you know, kind of a lower
grade type of hamstring, given a guy three weeks off
with a buy here is probably the smart thing to do.
It just comes at this inflection point the Ravens season
where you know, if they dropped these next two games,
they're you know, they're they're in a one in five
hole and you're trying to climb out of it. This
is also why, for the first time in a long time,

(12:24):
they invested in a backup quarterback. You know, they've kind
of cycled through these guys the Snoop hunt Leaves of
the world for years. With Cooper Rush, you know, they
paid him. He got a legit. I believe it was
a two year deal to come in there, and that
was in part because you know, he's won a lot
of games in the league, He's had to play in Dallas.
You look at his record as a starter. I mean

(12:45):
a minimum, he's able to keep it competitive with a
backup quarterback. You're just hoping that guy can really go
five hundred in the short term for you. The fascinating
part about that, though, is Cooper Rush definitely does not
play the same way as Lamar Jackson. I mean, this
is a pure pocket passing type of it off, so
they'd have to do a lot of things differently here.
I would say right now, you know, Thursday morning, if

(13:05):
I had to guess, I would say that you're going
to be holding your you know what's about Looper Rush
trying to keep you in that Survivor Bowl.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
Yeah, it's crazy too, because you know, the Ravens are
one of those teams. On paper, they are a Super
Bowl contending team. They just have had a couple of
weird games. They have some injuries. They are the sixth
best odds of winning the Super Bowl and they're one
in three. They're eleven to one.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
And I think most of it's tom because you look
at that division, right, Joe Burrow's not coming back anytime soon.
Cleveland and mess As we're going to see this weekend.
Pittsburgh's three and one.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
But I don't know if anybody actually believes in Pittsburgh.
So the division is theirs to take even at one
in three, and again, only the Bills, Eagles, Packers, Lions,
and Chiefs have better odds than the Ravens too well.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
And you'd also say the only game where they've been
all classed was this past week.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I mean, the Chiefs just played better.

Speaker 6 (13:50):
They got Exavier Worthy back, they were the better team
the other two games.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
I mean not to put it on one guy, but
Derek Henry.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
Fumbles and pull those games, and it's you know, they
might they easily could three and one, but for one
of your best players coffing up the football.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
You know.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
The real issue for Baltimore though, is that defense. I mean,
they've been terrible, but then you look at their injury
report and you realize, you know, at least part of
the reason they've been terrible. I mean, I want to say,
they had, you know, like nine returning Pro Bowl players
from a year ago, and like six of them are
hurt right now. I mean there's all kinds of Marlin
Humphrey's not going to play this week, probably gonna be
out for a couple of weeks.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Ro Kwan Smith, Is that right?

Speaker 6 (14:24):
Now non Amutadks out for the season, which is a
big deal. Kyle van Noy's been out. I mean you're
going like a who's who of who's on that team.
Nate Wiggins got banged up last week. I mean, that's
a ton of your starters on defense. They're kind of
they're patchworking it. You know, you may have to go
out there and score forty points every week right now
with where they are from an injury perspective, you know,
and without Lamar Jackson, it's be a lot harder to do.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Hey, Tom, yesterday they are I think it was yesterday
that they named Dylan Gabriel the starter, and then they
were interviewing Shader Sanders in the locker room and he
did this like miming bit what do you make of
all of that? And kind of the way that he
Sanders has handled this whole situation.

Speaker 4 (15:06):
I want to say.

Speaker 6 (15:07):
This carefully here, Sauce, but I think that every week
that passes you see another reason that Hudor Sanders won
the fifth round. Yeah, and that's not because he can't play.
It's you know, and it's you know, in hindsight, there
was all this pushback on he it's not going to
be a problem.

Speaker 4 (15:22):
You're not going to deal with it. People are overthinking it.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
And you know, it's like last week he comes out
and says, hey, most teams be starting me right now,
but you know, I guess not here, and you know,
then that gets some blowback, and then so yesterday he
goes and you know, is conducting the interview but not
actually talking. I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
And it's just with a third string quarterback. Who doesn't
love your third string quarterback to be the center of attention.

(15:45):
This should be a big day for Dylan Gabriel stepping in,
getting his opportunity a guy that they really like. I mean,
if you think about how Kevin Stefanski wants to play offense,
it's just see it and rip it. It's rhythm passing.
Guys are going to be open, just get the ball
out of your hands. That's not really Chadur's game. Chadeur's
an extend the plays, try to create something down the
field player. He did have some success obviously in that

(16:07):
you know that preseason opener. It's preseason, but it was impressive.
It's the reason that he's still on the roster right now.
Even though the following week he was banged up and
didn't play in the second preseason game. But with Dylan Gabriel,
he's the guy who profiles like Kevin Stefanski quarterback. The
only reason you know that he fell to the third
round was size. He's five to eleven. It's not the
shortest quarterback in the NFL. You know, guys like Russell Wilson,

(16:29):
Kyler Murray have played good football at a you know,
a reduced height, but you know, that's just something that
works against him. Plus he's a left handed quarterback. That's
not for everyone. But the way that the Browns look
at it as this guy might be Bo Nicks just
a few inches shorter if he can play that same way.
He's played a ton of football. He broke Bodex's record
for college starts, he broke his record for totally get

(16:51):
one hundred and eighty eight total touchdowns six years of college.
I don't know how many degrees he came out with,
but he had a lot of productivity at the college level.
You know, let's see. You know, the other issue here
is the moment that Dylan Gabriel gets on the field,
it does start the clock ticking from a public and
media perception standpoint of what is Shador gonna get a shot?
Chador was never gonna leap frog Dylan Gabriel. Dylan Gabriel

(17:14):
was the third round pick, Shador was the fifth. They
both had good moments, they both had rocky moments through
the course of camp. And you know, now the Dylan
Gabriel gets his shot, but you know that, you know
it know it won't be as much of a factor
this week in London. But when they come back to
Cleveland and if Gabriel, you know, has some bumps in
the road, there's the people are gonna be calling for Shador.
There's we're gonna be word Shador Sanders jerseys in the crowd,

(17:35):
the Dylan Gabriel jerseys. And that's just the fact. So
it was a really weird it's a weird thing to do,
Like it's not it's not damaging, you know, it's I mean,
the other scenario would have been he comes out and
just says, well, I should be starting over Dylan Gabriel,
which is a bigger problem. But it's still weird, and
it's just part of this this pattern of you know,
whether it's a lack of self awareness or lack of maturity.

(17:56):
It's just kind of you know, he keeps putting himselves
in situations where we're talking about someone who just from
an organizational standpoint, you generally don't want to be.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
Being talked about, which is your third string quarterback.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Yeah, and self awareness is the key, because what ESPN
was saying yesterday was that his mind stunt was in
response to Rex Ryan basically saying should or Sanders should
keep his mouth shut and stop talking.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
So and Rex was, I mean, I watched that clip yesterday,
but that's that that's over the top. I mean, listen,
like I get it. Rex is a former, you know,
coach in the league. That felt to me, I'm not
criticizing Rex, but it felt like we were going over
the line into the personal area, which is you know,
going back to the pre draft process where I caught
a lot of flak for the things that I reported

(18:38):
and wrote just talking to people within the league, but
like those were the objectively true facts. People did not
have good interactions with Shador Sanders in the pre draft process.
There were questions about how is he going to function
outside an environment where his dad's his coach like he
has been since going back to high school and youth football,
the accountability structures are just different when now you're in

(18:58):
a different building and you know whether it's I mean
getting again, these are minor transgressions, but they're part of
the broader picture. You go out, you get two you know,
high level of speeding tickets, you know early on, and
you know through the thing you have multiple, you know,
little injuries that pop up, like you know, I don't know,
is he you know, fully taking care of his body
the way that he needs to. Is you just kind
of get away with the same stuff he did in college.
I don't have the answers to that, but you know

(19:20):
what he said last week, what he didn't say yesterday.
It's just, you know, these are just all part of
the Schudor Sanders experience.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I have no doubt.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Listen, I believe we'll see Schudor Sanders play at some
point this season. If Jimmy Haslam said that back in camp,
he said, we got to see these guys and that
is part of a bigger picture here, which is a
Browns team that, whether they called a rebuild or not,
they're rebuilding. Their draft class has been really good. Real
Mason Graham Carson Schwessinger is a dude. He's been unbelievable.
Quinchot Judkins now that he's on the field. The other

(19:49):
back that they took, Harold Fannon, Isaiah Bonder they signed
as an under at free agent.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Like those are building block type of pieces.

Speaker 6 (19:56):
You got to figure out you have something in Dylan Gabriel,
Do you have something in Stoud or if you don't,
you're sitting on two first round picks next year because
you got the Jaguars pick from the Travis Hunter trade
and the Browns pick might be a pretty high one
depending how you know, the rest of the season goes here,
you're gonna have the opportunity to go out and draft
a quarterback in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
You have to get an evaluation for twenty twenty five.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
And to the.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Extent that anybody's focused in on, well, why isn't shudor
the two? Chadeur should not want to be the two
this week. You should not want to be in a
position where you didn't get any of the reps. You
know they're given all the reps to Dylan Gabriel this week.
You shouldn't want it to be. Hey, third quarter, it's
competitive game. Shout, go out there, and you haven't thrown
any of these guys all week, and you're you know,
you're completely going off metal rep.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
You shouldn't want that.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
When it's Shador Sanders' time, he'll he'll ascend to a
different position on the depth chart.

Speaker 4 (20:43):
Right now, he's still the three. And I'm really fascinated
to see.

Speaker 6 (20:46):
What Dylan Gabriel can do as the first rookie quarterback
to ever make his first start in an international game.

Speaker 4 (20:53):
And oh yeah, going up against.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
The Brian Flores defense, it should be fuck.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
Not to keep hammering Shaudur because we've already talked to
him minutes more about him.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
We probably should have.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
But just to go back to the Rex Ryan thing,
if Rex Ryan says basically, hey should do or keep
your mouth shut, we don't need to hear from him,
and you want to do the mind trick control him.
If you're Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Lamar Jack,
if you're an established quarterback, we could sit here and
go like is it worth it?

Speaker 5 (21:16):
Like getting into a meme fight or a mind fight.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
In this case, I guess with Rex Ryan you'd say
just move on, But it just looks so like a
lack of self awareness where it should be about Dylan
Gabriel and your opportunities and you're on a team, but
instead you're you're worried about what Rex Ryan is saying
about and you're acknowledging that he's getting to you by
doing the mime thing. I just I don't know, man,

(21:39):
he just he can't help himself. And that's what basically
I saw the entire panel on that show yesterday say,
is like should do has just got to get somebody
is here to say, like, well, just stop worrying about
everything else and just go freaking play football.

Speaker 5 (21:50):
But I don't know if it's ever going to get it.

Speaker 4 (21:52):
It was out of his own mouth last week.

Speaker 6 (21:54):
I yeah, no other places I'd be playing a lot
of a lot of people be playing me now, but
I'm not playing here. Well, I mean, you told multiple
teams not to draft to you, including the Ravens, who
this week, Oh yeah, I need a backup quarterback to
play now. It probably would have been Cooper Rush. They'd
already signed him by the time we got to the draft.
But you know, you chose, you know, to a degree,
you at least it tried to influence the process once

(22:14):
he wasn't a high draft pick to try to get
to a place where you thought he had a shout
to get on the field.

Speaker 4 (22:18):
But listen, fifth.

Speaker 6 (22:19):
Round quarterbacks don't start it just it doesn't happen. It's
extremely rare. You know that you have a brock Party,
which was I believe during his first year, or you
have a you know, a Tom Brady who really got
his opportunity in his you know, second year. Like there's
just not a lot of opportunities. Are you know instances
that through the course of time, you know you're in
this spot. Man, Like it's again, I don't want to

(22:42):
hammer you door because everybody says like he's not a
bad he's not a bad guy.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
Like people like him.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
Everything I've heard in the building, you know, they kind
of shrug their shoulders and shake their heads at this stuff,
like he's good on a day to day basis. But
you know, my question would just be, how hard is
it too when you're asked about just go hey, man,
love Dylan Gabriel fired up for my opportunity is coming.

Speaker 4 (23:01):
But I'm gonna do everything to support him this week.
That's it.

Speaker 6 (23:04):
Yeah, we all love the more interesting answers, But is
a mind routine going to help you in the big picture.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
I don't know that any of these things help you
in the big picture.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Hey, Tom, how do you think the Travis Hunter experiment
is going?

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Well?

Speaker 6 (23:18):
You know, he's got I think thirteen catches, no touchdowns,
and he's defended one pass on defense. So you'd say
right now that you're not getting the maybe the instant impact,
the splash that you would anticipate getting from any player
at a skill position up at the top of the draft.
I think it's way too soon to say this is
a bus they made a mistake to trade up for mean,
Travis Hunter is taking on something we've never seen anyone

(23:41):
take on. You know, he's playing offense one half, defense
another half. He's going back and forth. I mean, he's
playing like eighty snaps a game. That's a challenge, man.
And it goes back to something that you know, as
much as Travis kept saying in the pre draft process,
all you know, I want to I can do it.
I played one hundred and forty SAPs hundred sixty STAPs
a game in college. I can do it in the pros.
Absolutely want to do it.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
I talked to a lot.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Of coaches head coaches about this, and everybody had different
things that they raised of like how hard this is
going to be. It's not just the stamina and the conditioning.
Travis Hunter clearly has that part, but it's the detail
anytime you're a rookie coming into the league, the detail
that goes into route running and the nuances the offense
and the checks or defensively, all the checks that you're
making there and the nuances and the detail of your technique,

(24:26):
like it's around the clock type of an undertaking. Now
you're trying to do that double. You're trying to play
both positions. You know, the reason that they trade up
to number two is they thought they've got a really
unique guy who's gonna be able to impact the game
in both ways. You know, I'm not gonna sit here
after four games and question the way that they went
about it. It'll be interesting to see as the season
goes on, coming out of the by going into year two,

(24:48):
do they adjust some things in terms of, you know,
what they're putting on his plate. But right now, I mean,
the guy's drinking from a fire hose. We know that
he's really talented.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Player.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
He's not the biggest guy on the field, he never
will be, but he competes. He's certain got ball skills.
You know, let's see did they kind of you know,
utilize them in different ways And also mentioned this is
not like it's a.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Bad Jaguars team.

Speaker 6 (25:06):
They're winning games right now, so what they're doing in
the big picture, you know, clearly is working. But listen,
he's on a team right now. Where Travis etn has
been one of the most fascinating stories in the entire
league this year, going from a guy that people didn't
even think was going to start to be one of
the top backs in the league. You got Brian Thomas
Junior there, You've got Britain streams, you got a lot
of mouths to feed on offense and defensively. You know,

(25:27):
they got other guys that they're trying to get going.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Like I get it.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
You know, there's a plan. It's a not a four
game plan, it's a four year plan. Let's see where
this thing goes. But you know, to the extent of
what do we think we were going to get, we
probably thought we were going to get a bunch of highlights,
a bunch of viral plays, that hasn't happened yet. I
imagine that they're coming at some point here, but he's
just he's taken on a lot and you're probably seeing
a little bit of that.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
All right, final thing or two for Tom Pelasero, NFL
Networked thanks to our friends at bel Bank again, Vikings
and Browns Sunday eight thirty, Right here on the fans.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Six thirty pre game, What are you looking for? What
did I say?

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (26:02):
I thought also I thought I dropped ESPN or something.

Speaker 4 (26:05):
You're like, no, you can listen to you can listen
to PA and have the sound off.

Speaker 6 (26:09):
Although you know we well, I guess ratings aren't impacted
by sounds, So sure, beat.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
Our guys there you go.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
All right, So six thirty pre game, eight thirty kickoff?
What are you watching for? What injuries concerned you on
both sides? What what strategies.

Speaker 2 (26:19):
Should both teams be imploring based on who they're facing
Sunday morning?

Speaker 6 (26:23):
The Vikings injury situation is not great. I mean the
offensive line. You know, Brian Kelly's not going to play
this week. Obviously, the rookie guard is not going to
play this week, and Brian O'Neil's not going to play,
so you're and you're your backup center. Also, you know,
Jurgen's is still not practicing either, so you might have
a third string center and a backup guard, a backup
right tackle in front of Carson Wentz against what might

(26:46):
be the best defense in the league. And that's not hyperbole.
I know Miles garretted in prize history because of an ankle.
Miles has a lot of Wednesdays off. If he's not
out there the next couple of days, I'll get concerned.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
But he's is a lot of weeks for Miles isn't
practicing on Wednesdays.

Speaker 6 (27:01):
They're you know, by and large, you know, obviously they've
got some guys that haven't been available all season for them,
but by and large, they're they're pretty healthy on that
side of the ball. Again, they got some young guys
who are really impressive on that defense as well. So
the offensive lives is the biggest concern to me, you know,
how they use Miles Garrett. Obviously, Christian Deriso is rounding
into form here, probably getting closer to one hundred percent

(27:22):
than he was when he first.

Speaker 4 (27:22):
Went out there.

Speaker 6 (27:24):
That's a good thing. But anytime you got three backup
offensive lineman. That's a that's a huge concern, you know,
to me, if I'm Kevin O'Connell, you know this is
this is kind of a pivotal game in the season too,
because you know you're coming off obviously the loss in Dublin.

Speaker 4 (27:36):
You're two and two.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
You've played, you know, two or at least one and
a half if you could hear the second half of
the Bears game, good games, and he played two not
good games at all. Obviously, the Vikings made it really
competitive last week in Park is the way that the
Steelers tried to manage that end of the fourth quarter,
but they had They haven't played well in two of
these games. So three and two and two and three
going into your buy is going to feel a lot different,

(27:57):
especially because when the schedule came out, you were thinking,
we got an opportunity to turn two road games into
two neutral site games. We should be able to get these.
You got to get a win over the Browns. It's
as simple as that. So for Kevin O'Connell, I'm thinking,
how do I utilize my best players, how do I
despite the protection issues, despite you know, the injuries, how
do I get the ball to Justin Jefferson. How do

(28:19):
I get to Jordan Addison more than we co algo
TJ Hawkinson. Those are my guys, Like, how do I
Addam feeling too when he's in the game on third down?
How do I get the ball in those guys' hands?
And just try to make this as easy of a
game as I possibly can under tough circumstances. For Carson Wentz,
you know, defensively, obviously we're watching Andrew Van Ginkle through
the course of this week and whether he's able to go.
I mean that the impact that he's able to make

(28:40):
is pretty significant, you know, when he's out there and
when he's healthy. So you know, all those are our
injury factors here. But you know, probably the biggest factor
in this game is just how does Dylan Gabriel handle
the pressure.

Speaker 4 (28:51):
They're going to design a game plan.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
I'm sure that it all is just getting the football
out of his hands as quickly as possible, not letting
Brian Flores cloud the picture. But flows about as good
as anybody in the league. Get throwing different stuff at people,
and in this case, you got a guy who's played
a lot of football, but it was a lot of
college football. Let's see, you know what type of Does
he flood the zones and drop everybody or does he
come at this kid. I'd imagine it's going to be
a mix and'll be fun to see exactly what he

(29:13):
grows up.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
Appreciate it, Tom, talk to you next week man.

Speaker 4 (29:16):
Thanks fellas.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
All right, there's Tom Bella Sero NFL Network, thanks to
our friends at Bell Bank.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Thanks great. He knows a lot.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
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A seventeen year old boy in Florida fabricated his own
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Speaker 5 (30:02):
What hey, man, if you get abducted and you might
get hurt.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
So he's saying, like, if I'm gonna fake my abduction,
I'm gonna shoot myself in the.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Leg and make it look like I really got roughed up.

Speaker 5 (30:13):
Why go through that at all? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I mean, there's got to be some kind of a
sympathy vibe or a financial vibe. You got to do
something right. It's either for attention or for money. Yeah,
I love attention, but I shoot myself in the leg.
Would you for money? How about attention and money? Like,
if you get shot in the legal you're look, you're
you're you have a good level of regional fame. You
get shot in the leg, it's gonna be on every

(30:37):
major TV station in the Twin Cities, right, Kfans meets
a shot in the leg.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
So you're gonna get a lot of attention. Yeah, what if.

Speaker 3 (30:44):
Somebody says you're also gonna get paid like fifty K
and a week of coverage?

Speaker 5 (30:50):
How bad is the injury? It's a gunshot under the leg?
Does it mess up my calves?

Speaker 3 (30:56):
I thought you were gonna say, like your you know,
reps or your exercise or what?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Right? Those are cats of steel? Yeah? I don't know.

Speaker 3 (31:05):
A woman, a woman in Kentucky's accused of damaging a
Little Caesar's restaurant after she learned that the extra sauce
wasn't free. What I like that out of about ninety
percent of headlines, I read the headline and sauce goes
what just shocked and surprised.

Speaker 5 (31:24):
After everyone paul your hands up, the.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Little Caesar's lady would hawk, well, yeah, she's hot and
ready and pissed.

Speaker 5 (31:32):
Well played.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, but Chris would pay for the extra sauce because
he doesn't care is Little Caesar?

Speaker 5 (31:39):
Is that still their bit hot ready pizza in the NFL.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
I thought whoever got a hold of Little Caesar's and
turned it around has done a really good job, because
Little Caesars when it first came out was outstanding. Then
it kind of hit a rough patch. Now it's kind
of back. That was a hell of it ride. We
just went on, thank you. I mean it's no Seventh
Avenue pizza. I feel like that was a documentary on
Little Caesars. Yeah, when it first came out good, then

(32:07):
it hit a real weird another I think so. A
Piggly Wiggly cash here in South Carolina gave a woman
the wrong lottery ticket. Oh no, but the gal instead
of saying like, hey, this is the wrong one, she's like, whatever,
I'll just keep this one. It doesn't matter, not the
end of the world. And she won three hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (32:25):
But you go back and help that. Give that lady
some cash.

Speaker 3 (32:28):
I think you'd have to give her. Yes, yes, you'd
have to, Zach. Do you like those gas stations piggy
Wiggily Yeah, I've never been to one. So aren't Piggy
Wiggily's grocery stores? Not the gas stations. I'm pretty sure
they're grocery store. It's the show Cory and I are watching.
They mentioned wah wah was great, that's a gas station, right, yes,

(32:54):
but that's like, uh yeah, not steroids.

Speaker 4 (32:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
So you guys know that a lot of fast food
joints now are starting to integrate AI into the drive
through in some shape or form.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's I have for a while though, but it's not all.
But it's not like universal. They're all starting to kind
of dip their toes into it, Like how can we
make this more efficient. How can we make this better
by using AI? Can we get the fast food process
through quicker?

Speaker 5 (33:21):
I think it's kind of interesting. Last year before I
tell you what this year is.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Last year, what do you think the average time to
go through a drive through was across all US drive throughs? Oh?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
Good question.

Speaker 3 (33:38):
So you've got a factor in the ones that have
no lines because nobody likes going anymore and you go
right through, and then tho's other ones where there's significant
weights because they're popular as hell.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
One minute you.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
Think it's one minute on average?

Speaker 3 (33:53):
Yeah, that is to order to drive up to get
your food to pay, you think a minute, minute and
a half. Okay, you're going one minute and a half,
and you must door dash a lot. I've never used storagage, Zachary.
I was gonna say three and a half, you're gonna
go three. But I went through one of those Chick
fil A mobile throughs the other day. The line was like,

(34:14):
I mean, legitimately fifteen cars. There's never been a more
popular And I.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Drove right through the mobile through line right to the front,
passed all of them.

Speaker 5 (34:23):
It was awesome. Yeah, use the app.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
So last year, the average drive through time in the
US five minutes twenty six seconds was way off. Yep,
that was like one minute. Where are you going five
minutes and twenty six seconds? However, since some of these
fast food joints have started to add AI to find
ways to go faster, the average is now nine seconds slower.

(34:50):
What so what fourth straight headline? You've just s took
bonus the other day and get in here fair? But
just in general, isn't that interesting that so far.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
They haven't figured out how to use it to maximize efficiency.
They're just going to have to slow roll it like
everybody else because a lot of us are trying to
figure out how do I make my life more efficient
with AI?

Speaker 3 (35:15):
I'll say this, and I'm not paid to say this,
and you didn't tell me to say this. I went
to your spot yesterday, the one in Egan, after I
dropped Kelly and Louis off at the airport.

Speaker 5 (35:24):
My spot being raising canes, raising canes. I went to
the one in Egan. I ordered. I didn't want the toast.
What yeah?

Speaker 4 (35:32):
What? What?

Speaker 5 (35:35):
Because?

Speaker 3 (35:35):
What did you get?

Speaker 5 (35:36):
You didn't get cole slot d. I got extra sauce.

Speaker 3 (35:40):
The sauce.

Speaker 5 (35:40):
You're doing it wrong. No, I'm not. I'm just saying
thank you, Zach. They handed me the cup. It's a
bad deal though for it.

Speaker 3 (35:49):
I turned around, filled up my drank and by the
time I turned back around before I walked out, it
was fresh lot ready outstanding. Course, it was so good.
I'm trying to convince myself not to go back there today.

Speaker 5 (36:03):
That's how good. You shouldn't get.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
The extra sauce because sauce is like thirty five cents probably.

Speaker 5 (36:08):
But I didn't even eat the Coleslaw.

Speaker 3 (36:10):
Well, of course, because it's rabbit Pews don't get the
coslaw again. Even Todd Graves, no, it's not. Even Todd Graves,
the founder and owner of Raising Knes, is like hard
pass on his own Coleslaw. He's like, I don't understand Coleslaw,
but people seem to like it. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (36:24):
Even he was like, Nola, he gets it. Yeap, so good.
What what's Tuesday? Knes is coming in on Tuesday? Oh
hell yeah, Well then I won't go.

Speaker 3 (36:36):
The guy on the Pringles can has a name, Uh guess,
Pete Pringle. I mean you're very close, Pat Pringle, Pringle
chip s Minnyle chip Pringle is a very creative name.
But that is incorrect. Bend over Pringles, bendover Pringles. Yeah,

(36:59):
Candy Anita bath. His name is Julius Pringles. Come on,
how high falutin is he? Uh?

Speaker 5 (37:11):
Favorite kind of Pringles go.

Speaker 4 (37:14):
So weird?

Speaker 3 (37:15):
Because you guys would vomit sour creem was on your plate.
I've never had barbecue sauce in my life. I love
barbecue chips. I've never had the sauce never will. Sour
cream in onion would make me throw up. They're my
favorite chips, sour cream and onion. Pringles, although Stacks were better,

(37:35):
what happened is Stacks they're gone. I don't They're not
even in Target anymore. Yeah, you guys, Stacks were better
than Pringles. I still like Pringles, but I was on
team Stacks and none of they disappeared.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
Ye wonder if.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Julius Springles slipped a little money to Target and said,
can we get the stacks off this shelf?

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Please?

Speaker 3 (37:53):
Do you think somebody today who's going to work at
like a like camps right across the street spot, do
you think they work with as many weird eaters as
I work with? Surrounded by free we won't eat in
front of people. There's a multitude of things you won't
eat same with Zack, same same. Yeah, we got weird
eaters here for sure.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Which is fine.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
But maybe I should cut back a few things. Coleslaw,
what's wrong? I love Coleslaw, always have. It's delicious. I
gotta find somewhere to go because I up my house.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Who goes to knees and says.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
I don't want more toasts? I also I also didn't
eat the sixth finger. Our Nordo is Nordo coming over
on Saturday and update.

Speaker 5 (38:37):
He's never said anything. Maybe bring that sixth finger and
see what happens?

Speaker 4 (38:41):
Hey, you all right?

Speaker 3 (38:43):
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