July 3, 2024 • 37 mins
Dan and Kerry in for C & R as try to fix the Homerun Derby on the air. Dan, Kerry and the crew answer the question: who are you more interested in watching right now Bronny or Caitlin Clark? Dan has an apology to make as he admits he is now watching a show he said he would not watch.
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In about thirty minutes or so, we are in for
the guys today on a Wednesday, July, third day before
the fourth of July. I'm gonna pose a question, because
we are gonna discuss over these next couple of weeks,
Over these next couple of weeks, who are you more
intrigued to watch play, Caitlyn Clark or Brownie James. Okay,
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that's that We're gonna throw that out there. Yeah, So
if you're driving along, if you're about to get you know,
away for the four day holiday making an extended weekend,
you can always chime in at Carrie twenty five Roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Heck,
we'd even take your phone calls if you want at
eight seven, seven nine to nine on Fox at eight
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seven seven nine nine six six three six nine. So
just put that stew on that a little bit, if
you will, including the crew over there. Briddy James is
gonna play some summer league ball for the Lakers. Yeah.
Caitlyn Clark obviously has been a topic of conversation for
the last two months all Star voting. She's an All Star,
so is Angel Reese. But there's other stuff that came
with the All Star voting that we do need to
(02:07):
talk about. So there is where our Caitlin Clark discussion
will be. But we start with a different sort of
festivity and that is in less than two weeks it
will be the Major League Baseball All Star Break, the
All Star Game less than two weeks away now that
you will see on Fox. And of course Monday of
All Star Week is the Home Run Derby. And we
(02:27):
found out today that show Heo Tani will not be
taking parts in the Home Run Derby and instead health reasons,
the reasons why soho Heyo Tani will not be taking part,
but also in a quote that it is not his
sole responsibility to carry Major League Baseball. It was something
(02:51):
that Dylan Hernandez wrote for the La Times, and I
think that there's some truth to that, the word soul responsibility,
because I do think that other players have to step
up and take this event and help keep it at
one of the marquee events of the summer. Like you
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and I are just sitting here and the Major League
Baseball has tried to mess with the format and they
did it again this year. But there is no doubt
that when we're in the middle of July and Home
Run Derby comes on and it's usually on ESPN that
we sit there and watch it and take it in
and enjoy the spectacle. But you can't just have it
a run of the mill thing, because then it's going
to kind of run out, maybe like the Slam Dunk competition.
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So that like then poses the question of like, first
of all, like who's responsibility is it then for Major
League Baseball or for the players to keep this home
run derby going. The problem with the dunk contest is
not only is it players that aren't superstars like Lebron
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that you would have loved to have in the games.
It's not even the next level of players, Like there
are players that aren't even in the league that we
had to put into the dunk contest because they could
actually dunk. Matt McClung being one of those guys. Yes,
major League Baseball as a bevy of stars. And it's
not that the names of those of those players aren't recognizable.
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It's just that there are very very few names that
will grab attention no matter what. Otani is one of
those names. Judge is another one of those names. Harper's
another one of those names. Yeah, those are the names
that I feel that need to end up taking part
in the home run Derby if it's going to continue
to be the spectacle that it is. And I don't
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blame Otani because of his injuries, but I do think
that these superstar players do need to take an account
and to take some responsibility of carrying what is a huge,
huge deal for Major League Baseball. Yeah, there's layers to it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you talk about the NBA Dunk Contest, for example,
it is a name a named events, like we want
the big names, we want the big brands to take
part in it. That's part of the problem that it's
gone down into such a place that it's that it's
at right now. But on top of the name recognition,
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as far as the Dunk Contest having any more you know,
gravitas as being something that's a must must watch events,
it's hard because we've probably seen every dunk that you
can do, and so you get tired of seeing dunks
that I especially me as a as a basketball player,
I can do, Like I want to see something that
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can't do. No, no, no, no, I'm just like from
you know, just like even from a player perspective, right,
But when you get to baseball in the home run derby.
There's nothing like hearing the back connect with the ball
and they're going as far as humanly possible, like I
can't do that, Like the normal person at home can't
do that. And so just seeing that and witnessing that
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has always been a great thing. But we've all also
seeing players that were really hot before the All Star break,
hitting the ball really well and hitting the ton and
then taking part in the home run derby and losing that,
losing their stroke and not being able to hit the
ball the same way for a portion of time once
the second part of the season kicks off. So I'm
sure a person like Otani that's really aware, self aware
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of himself as a player and his game, I'm sure
a little bit of that weighs in on him as well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think it ends up being a cop out you
do of the second half. Yes, swing, and you mean
to tell me that one one night after how many
rounds of VP that you've taken. You mean you haven't
gone at a spring training complex and ended up just
you know, like, all right, let's mash some let's just
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let's just get him out of here. I think it
is it is such an excuse for players who don't
perform to blame it on the home run Derby. And
I think it's become and that has now allowed players
to not participate in it. And and that's the problem
with me is I would I would love it, and
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I and I don't. I don't know if there are numbers,
And maybe this is the point that that I'm wrong,
But you know, is anybody out their average go up
after winning it? That would I mean, we would never
hear about that, but we would hear. Hey, guess what,
Lucky participating in the home run Derby just hasn't been
the same. Yeah, what about just taking this break in
the middle of the season, you know, and being away
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from your team and then taking a couple of days
off of that. But you're gonna blame it on the
one the one night that you hit the home run derby.
And I'm not saying that it hasn't happened to someone.
It's just you can't tell me that it's happening to everyone.
And that's why nobody should do it to me. That's
the problem that I have with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, I mean obviously we would all you know, I
think stand to gain a lot of love and affection
for that sport. In the Home Run Derby, if we
got to get a show down between oh Tani and
Judd down to stretch, those two going, you know, head
to head and you know, crushing balls out out of
the stadium, it would be a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Jason Stewart is a Dodger fan. He's been on record
of saying that he did not want shoeo Tani there
it is on to compete in the Home Run Derby
basically because of his injury. Correct? Is that is that
the sole reason?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, you know, it's too bad that he pulled out
today because I really thought this was going to be
the topic that carried us through the All Star Game.
I thought he was going to go right up to
the weekend and we could talk about it on sports
talk radio all next week. But no, he did what
I thought he should do. And that's because you talk
about the cop out, and I agree with you. I
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think that it's given the top name player is a
reason to not do it, a convenient reason not to
do it. And I also don't believe that it has
much of an impact on your production after the contest.
But I will say this, you hear about how it's
a different kind of exercise. In other words, it's much
different than batting practice. It's much different than cage work.
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You hear about how people how they didn't realize how
over exerting it is, how they would have like soreness.
And you probably experienced this, Carrie too, like soreness with
muscles that you don't typically have soreness with, like hamstring
soreness the next day, or like you know, a tweak
in the flexor or whatever. Like they have these little
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like over exertion kind of semi injuries coming off of it.
And I just didn't want the you know, our best player,
the daughter's best player, and the best player in the
entire league, to do something as he's over exerting himself
to injure that arm. He's been able to hit, and
he's been able to hit well all season, so obviously
the rehab and hitting don't have a whole lot to
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do with each other. But I think that you're doing
a little bit, that little extra, and that's kind of
where the injuries happen, right when you're trying to do
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And that was my issue.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's overcompensating, right so if you're trying to hit the ball,
if you're intense trying to hit the ball out of
the park, there is an extra gear that you have
to go with. I mean, you can have your normal swaying, yes,
but you also want to be impressive as well, and
that's part of it. How far the balls are going too,
So it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That is my big thing. And I do want to
clear up something that I said because I got confused.
Dylan Hernandez covering the Lakers rights for the La Times,
Dave Roberts is the one who said it's just not
his responsibility alone to carry the game of baseball. That
was the quote. Dylan obviously took that quote. I just
looked at it wrong and read it wrong, but wanted
to clarify. Roberts sang, basically, Otani does this on a
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daily basis. He doesn't need to do it for the
home run derby. Clarified that portion of it. The length
of the home runs is actually the thing that I
want to see. Exactly last year, in the home run
Derby that was won by Vladimir Guerrero Junior, he beat
Randy rose Arena in the finals twenty five to twenty three.
Vlad Junior ended up hitting about seventy five home runs
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last year in the home run derby, a Rose Arena
hit about the same amount, even maybe even a little
bit north of that. So the amount of home runs
that you see is not the great spectacle exactly. The
spectacle is when one goes five hundred feet. And I think,
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if we were to really be honest, and I've been
fortunate enough to go to a couple of home run Derbies,
and honestly, Carrie, they're a little bit boring because it
just kind of takes forever and by the time you
get to the finals, you've been to the park for
two and a half hours. You've seen I don't know,
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one hundred and sixty home runs hit amongst all of
the players already. Yeah, so when you see another home
run go over, it doesn't have the same effect as
maybe the first couple that you've seen. And I think
the reason when you guys are talking about trying to
alter your swing and doing different things, it's also because
you're hitting twenty six home runs in a round. Julio
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Rodriguez in front of the home fans last year put
on a show, hit forty one home runs in his
first round. Wow, yeah, crazy, you know, and guess what
he lost in the second round because he was so
down tired for what he did in the first round.
It's not natural. So you know what I want to see.
I want to see the farthest home run and you
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know who I want to see. I want to see
if Aaron Judge is the one that can hit it.
And instead of making guys hit eighty home runs or
to go through all of these stages to try to
hit all of these home runs, which doesn't make it
a fan friendly deal, put Judge out there, put Harper
out there, put Stanton out there, the guys that you
can if healthy, and say, you guys get ten home runs,
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you guys get ten hits, farthest home run, million bucks,
and you want to watch a show like just to
see what Aaron Judge and maybe a million dollars doesn't
do it. We throw a million out there. But the
reason to just you know what, You're not gonna have
to hit eighty home runs. You're not gonna be up there,
you know, swinging in the sun. But if you go
go there, take ten pitches or ten hits in a batting,
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which you would normally do in a batting situation. Anyway,
everybody's taking BP by the way, on Monday of the
All Star Game, just like they are, you know, on
before Tuesday's game. If you go out there and just say, guys,
put on a show, and who can hit the farthest,
that's what I would want to see. Who hits one
five hundred, who hits one five h five, who hits
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one out of the park? Who does you know? Like
those those are the things that I want to see.
That's what I would like to see from the home
run Derby, And then maybe just maybe you can get
those guys back into the derby. Judges have been in
since twenty seventeen. Otani hasn't competed since twenty twenty one.
Who's the only time that he did. So maybe instead
of having guys hit eighty home runs a night, you
just have him go up there and take ten swings
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and try to hit the farthest one that you can see.
And I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But the crazy part about that's that is I'm sure
there has to be a competition committee that has to
address certain things when it comes to baseball, obviously, and
the home run derby the way that it stands, it's
just it's too taxing. And the fact that they haven't
come up with this idea now is just if.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
They have to fill a TV show. That's what ESPN
is like, we need three hours of programming. How do
we extend this? Okay, we're gonna do it this way,
do it that way, and do it this way and
do it that way. Now what they're gonna do, they're
gonna have all eight players hit home runs. Then after that,
I think then they're gonna filter it into the four
players and make it a bracket. So it's head to head.
That way a little bit limits it because if you
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beat the other player, then you could just stop at
that point. If you've passed the opponent that you play,
you don't have to hit as many, but still you're
gonna be hitting a bunch of home runs. Somebody's gonna
probably end up hitting seventy five home runs in batting
practice and then they get the extra time for as
far and it just it doesn't have to be that.
And it's not that Vladimir Guerrero Junior isn't a a
(15:01):
popular name and star in Major League baseball. It's just
the fact of we want to see the star of stars,
and if there's a way that you can do it,
if you can tell Aaron Judge to show up there,
who wouldn't want to just watch him? I mean, heck,
he's on pace to break you know, his record of
the American League record is now we call him for
a home runs you know, he's on pace to break that.
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So who wouldn't want to see him in an instance
like this, maybe hitting a five hundred you know foot shot.
That to me is what major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And I have to say to Jason right now, Otani's
second judge is number one in the league. Right now,
He's the best player in this league right now. And
Otani is right there nipping at his tails. But I mean, obviously,
the season that judges happen, it's just remarkable.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'll give you that until show starts pitching, Like, yes,
this was this is definitely the soft launch of sho
Hell ti g He's just sitting And I love Dan's point.
I don't know why I've never even thought about this,
but that is the way to make a pretty tired
event more more interesting. At the very least, draw attention
to and or reward the longest home runs in the
(16:06):
current format at least. Yeah, Like I'd never even think
about that or even like the tiebreaker is the accumulation
of distance compared to the other guys, because each one
is measured, right, yeah, yes, I mean yeah, make something
out of that distance.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Furthest home run gets to the finals, you know, like
that's just something like that, or figure out a way
to make it. It's it's so much. It just looked
at They did a round by round breakdown MLB dot
Com did last year and in the final round lad
Guerrero hit fourteen home runs in a minute thirteen. It
was a home run every five seconds. Wow. Again, that's
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that's amazing. That's not baseball. I don't care if your
pitch clock is three seconds, like that is not baseball.
That is just you know, it's wack bam bam, bam,
bam bam. It's like Kendrick Lamar, like you know, right,
like it's like it is it's but that's not baseball again,
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just another home run, another home run. We will see
if they change Jason's favorite tradition of having unqualified youth
out in the outfield trying to catch. How is that?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
How was that ever allowed? And how is that allowed
moving forward? Like, honestly, I hate to bring this back
to like a real serious note, but major League Baseball
is libel if there is a serious injury, and god
forbid even worse, like I have no idea why they
would put kids in front of these flaming line drives.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, I know that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And a kid got hit last night at the Dodger game, right,
uh Otani hits the home run on the forehead on
the four.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, from that distance. Listen, Jason's a father, I'm a father.
I don't know the conversation that Jason would have. My
son's three, So you wouldn't understand that I'd be out
in the outfield when he's twelve years old, Like it
would break my heart, but I would be like, there
is no way in heck that you are going out
and fielding baseballs in a home run derby. You're no
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way possible. I don't care that you're three hundred feet
away from Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Those line drives are humming
from VP. Oh yes, yeah, there is absolutely no way.
As Rob Barker would say, no, way, no, how that
is not happening, my goodness. And by the way, it's
not just four kids, it's forty. So you're not only
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dodging baseballs, you're actually dodging other kids who aren't as
qualified to go and try to catch those baseballs. What's
the age requirement on that? I think like they max
it out maybe at fifteen, but there seems to be
like some ten year olds running around that. I have
no business being out there. Absolutely not. All right, he's
carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. We try to fix the
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home run derby, but Joey Otani not going to for
the betterment of jas and maybe for the betterment of
his elbow.
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Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's Covino and Rich here at Fox Sports Radio hanging out.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer, Brian Finley's here, Jason Stewart,
so's Iowa Sam Ex. Mary macrord of the studio. Yes,
and she's trying to tell you to sing with emotion.
On Sunday, No Dary it's not about you, It's about
your friend that you're honoring. Gets through it. Yes, I'm
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through it. I knew mirror is going to I knew
mirror it was going to be to give me. You're
not the music biz stuff. No, but I I I.
If I'm sitting there and I'm listening to you singing,
I'm like, get through the song. I didn't come here
to your Kerry Prye. All right, get about back Cary
twenty five Roads. You can find me at dan byro
on Fox. This may make Iowa Sam cry. I oppose
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the question of of uh, who would you rather watch?
Bronnie James or Caitlin Clark? And Sam, these are tears
of joy because Cameron tweets in Clark, how is this
even a question? So I'm gonna pose it to carry first,
and then we'll go around. Ronnie James is gonna play
in the Summer League for the Lakers. I believe it's
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this this weekend. I think of their games in Sacramento
that he's gonna be playing in. We've watched Caitlin Clark,
but we'll continue to watch her over these next couple
of weeks of the w NBA season. And the than
the Olympics will end up taking taking place and and
we'll maybe be wrapped up into that, or we won't
be because she's not there. But in the near future,
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Ronnie James or Caitlin Clark, who are you more interested.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
In the near future? It is Ronnie James. It is
we already think he's not supposed to be in the league,
or he's fair you know, unfairly been put in the
position that we feel like he's not ready for the league, right,
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and he's going to go against some contemporaries, some peers
who are probably going to feel the same way, and
they are going to try to really do what has
been done to Caitlyn Clark, I believe as her professional
career has taken off. So I want to see if
we're going to have that same type of is there
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going to be reverenced there or is there going to
be some disdain? So I kind of want to see that.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Very good points, Iowa, Sam, I know that you're biased
in all of this, but I will pose the question
to you who do you would you rather see over
these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
This answer may surprise you, Dan, but I'm going to
say Brownie James is really wow, it's playing into the
We don't really know what he is. So it's like
and there's a lot of you know, and I'm sure
a lot of the w NBA players when Kaitlyn Clark
came into the league, they were like, why is she
getting so much attention? She's great, but she hasn't she
hasn't done anything at the pro level yet. Those questions
are hovering around Bronnie James. But I think like tenfold
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because unlike Bronnie James, Kaitlin Clark did quite a bit
of scoring and performing and playing at the college level.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
He didn't.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
He is a mystery. And again, if his dad wasn't
lebron James, and if it wasn't Lakers, he wouldn't have
been drafted. But he has a chance to go in
and use that as motivation and prove everybody wrong. If
he fails or if he's just he's a completely if
he's completely insignificant in the league, there's gonna be a
lot of negativity, a lot more than if Kaitlyn Clark,
you know, continues to average like sixteen, seven and six
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or whatever it may be. She's proving herself, so far
at the WNBA level we have it's a complete mystery.
With Bronnie James, there was some a point of contention
between you and our executive producer Jason Stewart in saying
that you feel that she has lived up to the expectation.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I do. I do think so.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Yes in general, yes, and so even if right now
from shooting from three, she's not been great. You know,
there's gonna be stats that go up and down this season,
but overall she's she's stuffed. She does stuff the stat sheet.
Jason just I think wants to see more of that
that flare that she showed at Iowa, but I think
that'll come in time.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So Iowa, Iowa. Sam.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So you think at sixteen points in the league she
would be a generational player with those numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Noah, no, right, I'm saying though that averaging right now
in her rookie season sixteen, six and seven, whatever it is.
You know, she is holding up her side of why
she was the number one overall pick, Like if you do,
it's been quietly done. If you look at some of
the little you know, blurbs, they show up during games,
like she's breaking rookie records like left and right, not
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only for the fever but for the WNBA WNBA in general.
So I think, like, quietly she is putting together a
great up to par rookie season. Jason wants to see
like more and I get that too, Yeah, because that's
what we want people to hold on to.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That we want to hold onto their attention to the WNBA.
With that, I mean, he.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Says so many things that I think are just incorrect.
This whole thing wasn't to live up to what a
first pick is, right, I mean, who was the first
pickwas Yer Boston. We've seen what she she brings. She's
not great. The expectations weren't the win Rookie of the
Year even or to just prove her work right. The
expectations were to be as carry just put it, generational.
(24:24):
But you can't really define transcendent. Transcendent is transform transformative?
Transformative or can you define that in like number of
wins stats?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Like? No?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
No, no, you define it by the eye test. Sure,
you define it with no measurables, no measurable.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So that's not very fair, is it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
No, think about this, So Lebron James came into the league,
and I hate talking about him, because we talked about
him so much right now, but that's a generational player,
came from day one, and we can see it. Even
with the eye test. You're like, no, this dude's different.
And then the numbers backed it up as well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know what I mean. I'm excited to see Bronnie James. Yes,
and I decide that Kateln Clark has not lived up
to the expectations that we thought. It doesn't mean she's
not having a great rookie season and we're actually seeing her,
seeing her grow within the season, but the levels of
Bronnie James, because if he can't hold his own, this
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isn't even talking about starring. This is about holding your
own in a summer league. My goodness. Like there, there,
it is, it is, It will not end, and honestly
it may not be fair, but the holding your own
is the bare minimum and that is what he has
to do, and that, to me is is intriguing. I think,
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are you on the Bronnie James train too?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I think there, And we'll go back back to the
Caitlyn thing, like I think I know what Caitlin Clark
is on the WNBA level the summer at least I
know what it is. It's the sixteen and seven or
whatever we keep quoting. That's no longer interesting to me.
So Brownie takes up all of my attention and this
and this debate. I definitely need to see how he
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how he just how he just exists with big, big players,
big boy players.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Right, is Brian gonna make this a clean sweep or
are you gonna go with a CC on this one? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm gonna go with the clean sweep. And there's this
one thing that happens to be a part of the
lexicon of sports fans, and it's hate watching. I think
there's hate watching from both. But when you throw in
the nepotism, there's the a certain population that just wants
to see him fail, wants to see him get blocked
in the face, wants to see how he handles that
(26:36):
wants to see the green light? What what? How many
shots is he gonna be able to take? Are they
gonna let him take shots? What is his playing time
going to be? What happens if he struggles and turns
it over? Is he gonna come immediately out of the game.
I think that people don't realize there's a lot on
the line with Lebron James's legacy by pushing his son
forward like this that people are recognizing.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And the crazy thing about that part of it is
is even if the Lakers are going to allow him
to be subjected to this as much as we want
to see it, will there be time constraints? Will he
play a little bit here and there just to show
glimpses so you can't have this full analysis of what's
going on or what he can be. So that's another
(27:19):
interesting part of it too, like will they allow him
to play play play and really go through that process.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I to answer that question, I think they'd be better
off hiding him offensive then than actually opening it up.
And then you just say, like, we're trying to do
some other things. But if you don't make an effort,
then you're still protected in a way. It's in the NBA.
The NBA loves the unknown. It's why guys are getting
(27:44):
drafted at nineteen and Dalton connect is thought to be
too old, you know, at twenty three and coming in
and guys who are been in college for a few
years that you know could be top picks maybe fall
a little because of their age. Because you always want
to be of what could be and what will be,
and the unknown is more intriguing than the known. And
(28:05):
I think in this situation, the Lakers will look at
it as like, well, the unknown buys us sometime.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's my point, And it still will lend the mystery
throughout the off season to the start of the season.
That question will still linger and that will still be
a part of the lure or the mystique of Bronnie James.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I know that first round picks and second round
picks are not the same. But when we started the
show talking about lebron and then you and I even
had the conversation of the break, and it's something that
we talked about again. When the Lakers drafted Dalton Connect,
it actually feel I feel bad for Bronnie and I
feel bad for Dalton Connect, but I use them as
just because of the examples that they are and how
(28:45):
different they are. But when the Lakers drafted Dalton Connect,
it was this message to show what a great coach
JJ Reddick was, that Reddick's mind was already working on
all of the ways they could utilize his offensive cap abilities, right,
and then when they draft Johnny Ronnie James they're like,
he's a hard worker, he earned it, you know, like
(29:05):
it's you're like, okay, so you're obviously not drawing up.
And he plays for I mean, he only average six
points a game in the in the select few games
that he played in college. So now I think what
you're gonna see is the concerted effort to show Dalton
kN X offensive game and then hide it and then
let Brodny James try to develop that over a year.
And honestly, next year Summer League would be the time
(29:26):
where maybe you would want to have Ronnie James. But
if they if they try to unwrap this present and
say here you go, this is what you got, it
could turn bad very quickly, really quickly.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And I think that's why I brought it up, is
because I would see that being what they would try
to do this summer, because I mean, it's just too
much pressure and too much expectations and anything that he does,
even if he played well, if he averaged ten and
three and two steals, like, there's still going to be
just it's going to be broken down to a degree
that's just unfair.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think I saw when the TV schedule came out,
they had six games that Ronnie ESPN otherwise the summer
of the games Ronnie ESPN two or NBA TV. Three
of those games were Laker games. So it's like the
three out of the six that they are making sure
that we get to see Roni Bronnie James, and maybe
to Brian's point, they should just be like love them
or hate them, watch them here.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well, if you guys hide them, hide him, then there's
more pressure to say and going at him, do you
deserve the contract? So that's the downside of hiding him
for because eventually, when are you going to face the music?
And if you keep hiding and then you're gonna hear
more people saying why did he deserve that contract?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, well, you keep up the scheme as long as
you can. You try to run it out. That's that's
the point of because if you're the Lakers, you know
the answer to the question, right like, you know what
the answer is going to be and it's not gonna
be good, So you don't want other people to know
that answer. At some point, I think that they would
rather handle the backlash of not unveiling Bronnie James than
(30:59):
the actual reality of unveiling him and him not being
what they are trying to build him up to me.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, you give him that answer after after the summer
the summer games, then you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That was a part of the interesting part today. And
the Adrian Wojanowski piece is that he just stated overtly
that that le Brony's going to be with the team
and playing with Lebron in the first week of the season.
That was a weird like addition. And then spend the
rest of the year in the G League and it's like,
if you do not hide him in summer league and
(31:32):
he's exposed to someone who just doesn't belong, yes, then
that first week is going to look like even more
of a side show.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yes man, they brought it amongst themselves, poor kid. Do
you think Lebron gets a statue outside Staples? No way,
I think he does. Do you think he does?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah? Wow, I do. No, I get it. I understand
what with you know who they are, and I think
at some point its feel like that's good for their
brand to have Lebron b wo But yes, all right.
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Hopefully you'll have me back after that. We're going to
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(32:44):
In just a second, I'll give you my apology, but
I do have to tell you. Do you know that
the WNBA voting was much more popular this year than
it was a year ago? Do you know how much
voting increased from last year to this year? Like thirty
thousand votes? Right? That would that be? Is that what
you think from if you gave a percent for the
total of votes from last year to this year, how
(33:06):
many votes do you think that voting increased by?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, I know the voting as a whole increased, but
from the last high, I think it was what seventy seventy.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'm way off anyway, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
I've got what did you say? Iosam? I'm sorry you
were in my ear. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I was just going to say a good way to
summarize it is five figures to six figures?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Would that be? Uh? For every player? For every for
every player? Total votes? Yeah, got it? RG three to
two to this. Total votes for the top five players
from last year to this year increased by five hundred
and ninety eight percent. That's six Haitlin Clark had seven
(33:48):
hundred thousand votes. She was the highest vote getter the
in in balloting, the highest vote her last year. I
had ninety five thousand and she had seven hundred thousand.
I know, I saw your lip.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
And it wasn't just her though other players were getting
Well yeah, that's because you're not just voting for her,
right Like like she brought everybody there to vote. She
brought people most everybody six hundred thousand for Leah Boston
and the next person five hundred and fifty eight. Like whatever,
I'm not like one president, you vote for like ten
other people on their five other people on the voting.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So there's a there's a ballot that says multiple people.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Right, yeah, yeah, you just yeah, you just made to
fill out your Yeah, you fill out your your team.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There, gotcha? All right? I ripped Hard Knocks off season.
I said, I have I only liked the training camp version.
I did not watch the entire Giants episode last night.
I got ten minutes in and I'm like, I better
go to bed. But boy did I love what I saw.
I am in, I am sold. And this is what
I love about the training camp version of it is
(34:48):
the behind the scenes stuff, the conversations. This was Joe
Shane in a snippet talking about the Giants decision this
past offseason, what they're gonna do with Sakwan Barkley, who
obviously he could have been up for a new contract,
could have used the franchise tag on him, and then
you got Daniel Jones making is forty million. This was
Joe Shane explaining about the Giant's decision that they had
(35:09):
to make earlier this offseason.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
We've got to grade the offensive line, and you're paying
the guy forty million dollars. It's not to hand them
all off to a twelve million dollars back. My plan
is address the offensive line. At some point here in
free agency, we're sitting a six. There's a chance there's
an offensive weapon there. This is the year for Daniel
plan all along was give him a couple of years.
Is he our graph for the next ten years, or
(35:32):
do we need to pivot and you'll find somebody else.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All of that stuff is probably said on the microphones
that we are talking about here on Fox Sports Radio
that have been topic at conversations. Yeah, but when you
hear a person of power talking like that and saying,
all right, we're not gonna pay Saquon, we got to
deal with this offensive line. And they signed a bunch
of guys in free agency, didn't do anything in the draft,
but signed a bunch of guys in free agency to
try to show up that line. His point about finding
(35:57):
the playmaker in the draft, guess what they did. They
draft him. The league neighbors sixth the overall wide receiver
from LSU. So it is all on Daniel Jones ten
times more in my mind now that we've heard it
from the GM, more so than us just even speculating
or anything else. And his point about Saquon Barkley is
representative of the NFL as its entirety. If you have
a great quarterback, you don't need to pay a lot
(36:18):
for a running back. And you I don't know if
you don't need to, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I think that's the difference because if you got a
player like Derek Henry, you or say Kawon Barkley, you
do want that guy there, you just can't. You just
can't afford to do it. But again, it's about Daniel Jones.
It is you paid them all this money. We need
to find out if he's the guy. And that's true.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And the point about Daniel Jones as well is now
when you hear that bite is like why do we
pay Daniel Jones anyway? Why you're like, like, maybe we
could have kept Saquon if we wouldn't have given him
the long term deal. That's the other point of it.
But when you look throughout the you know, Patrick Mahomes
has got a variety of running backs. Isaa Pacheco a rookie?
You know, I was trying to think of like the
top backs, Christian McCaffrey obviously, but then you got brock
(37:03):
Perty who's on his rookie deal. At some point that
marriage is gonna end up being a certain way. Jordan
Love's gonna want his contract Raiders. The Packers just paid
a lot, you know, to bring Josh Jacobs over, formerly
of the Raiders. We'll see if that works or not,
but I just loved it. I apologize hard knocks. I'm
gonna watch all of these Giants episodes. I am in Yeah,
Daniel Jones time. I want to see if he can
(37:23):
do anything. I don't think he is that guy, but
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Here's Kerry, I'm Dan Iowa, Sam Sierra, Jason Stewart's here,
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In about thirty minutes or so, we are in for
the guys today on a Wednesday, July, third day before
the fourth of July. I'm gonna pose a question, because
we are gonna discuss over these next couple of weeks,
Over these next couple of weeks, who are you more
intrigued to watch play, Caitlyn Clark or Brownie James. Okay,
(01:26):
that's that We're gonna throw that out there. Yeah, So
if you're driving along, if you're about to get you know,
away for the four day holiday making an extended weekend,
you can always chime in at Carrie twenty five Roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Heck,
we'd even take your phone calls if you want at
eight seven, seven nine to nine on Fox at eight
(01:46):
seven seven nine nine six six three six nine. So
just put that stew on that a little bit, if
you will, including the crew over there. Briddy James is
gonna play some summer league ball for the Lakers. Yeah.
Caitlyn Clark obviously has been a topic of conversation for
the last two months all Star voting. She's an All Star,
so is Angel Reese. But there's other stuff that came
with the All Star voting that we do need to
(02:07):
talk about. So there is where our Caitlin Clark discussion
will be. But we start with a different sort of
festivity and that is in less than two weeks it
will be the Major League Baseball All Star Break, the
All Star Game less than two weeks away now that
you will see on Fox. And of course Monday of
All Star Week is the Home Run Derby. And we
(02:27):
found out today that show Heo Tani will not be
taking parts in the Home Run Derby and instead health reasons,
the reasons why soho Heyo Tani will not be taking part,
but also in a quote that it is not his
sole responsibility to carry Major League Baseball. It was something
(02:51):
that Dylan Hernandez wrote for the La Times, and I
think that there's some truth to that, the word soul responsibility,
because I do think that other players have to step
up and take this event and help keep it at
one of the marquee events of the summer. Like you
(03:13):
and I are just sitting here and the Major League
Baseball has tried to mess with the format and they
did it again this year. But there is no doubt
that when we're in the middle of July and Home
Run Derby comes on and it's usually on ESPN that
we sit there and watch it and take it in
and enjoy the spectacle. But you can't just have it
a run of the mill thing, because then it's going
to kind of run out, maybe like the Slam Dunk competition.
(03:36):
So that like then poses the question of like, first
of all, like who's responsibility is it then for Major
League Baseball or for the players to keep this home
run derby going. The problem with the dunk contest is
not only is it players that aren't superstars like Lebron
(03:58):
that you would have loved to have in the games.
It's not even the next level of players, Like there
are players that aren't even in the league that we
had to put into the dunk contest because they could
actually dunk. Matt McClung being one of those guys. Yes,
major League Baseball as a bevy of stars. And it's
not that the names of those of those players aren't recognizable.
(04:20):
It's just that there are very very few names that
will grab attention no matter what. Otani is one of
those names. Judge is another one of those names. Harper's
another one of those names. Yeah, those are the names
that I feel that need to end up taking part
in the home run Derby if it's going to continue
to be the spectacle that it is. And I don't
(04:42):
blame Otani because of his injuries, but I do think
that these superstar players do need to take an account
and to take some responsibility of carrying what is a huge,
huge deal for Major League Baseball. Yeah, there's layers to it.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
So you talk about the NBA Dunk Contest, for example,
it is a name a named events, like we want
the big names, we want the big brands to take
part in it. That's part of the problem that it's
gone down into such a place that it's that it's
at right now. But on top of the name recognition,
(05:14):
as far as the Dunk Contest having any more you know,
gravitas as being something that's a must must watch events,
it's hard because we've probably seen every dunk that you
can do, and so you get tired of seeing dunks
that I especially me as a as a basketball player,
I can do, Like I want to see something that
(05:36):
can't do. No, no, no, no, I'm just like from
you know, just like even from a player perspective, right,
But when you get to baseball in the home run derby.
There's nothing like hearing the back connect with the ball
and they're going as far as humanly possible, like I
can't do that, Like the normal person at home can't
do that. And so just seeing that and witnessing that
(05:58):
has always been a great thing. But we've all also
seeing players that were really hot before the All Star break,
hitting the ball really well and hitting the ton and
then taking part in the home run derby and losing that,
losing their stroke and not being able to hit the
ball the same way for a portion of time once
the second part of the season kicks off. So I'm
sure a person like Otani that's really aware, self aware
(06:21):
of himself as a player and his game, I'm sure
a little bit of that weighs in on him as well.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I think it ends up being a cop out you
do of the second half. Yes, swing, and you mean
to tell me that one one night after how many
rounds of VP that you've taken. You mean you haven't
gone at a spring training complex and ended up just
you know, like, all right, let's mash some let's just
(06:49):
let's just get him out of here. I think it
is it is such an excuse for players who don't
perform to blame it on the home run Derby. And
I think it's become and that has now allowed players
to not participate in it. And and that's the problem
with me is I would I would love it, and
(07:10):
I and I don't. I don't know if there are numbers,
And maybe this is the point that that I'm wrong,
But you know, is anybody out their average go up
after winning it? That would I mean, we would never
hear about that, but we would hear. Hey, guess what,
Lucky participating in the home run Derby just hasn't been
the same. Yeah, what about just taking this break in
the middle of the season, you know, and being away
(07:30):
from your team and then taking a couple of days
off of that. But you're gonna blame it on the
one the one night that you hit the home run derby.
And I'm not saying that it hasn't happened to someone.
It's just you can't tell me that it's happening to everyone.
And that's why nobody should do it to me. That's
the problem that I have with it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
No, I mean obviously we would all you know, I
think stand to gain a lot of love and affection
for that sport. In the Home Run Derby, if we
got to get a show down between oh Tani and
Judd down to stretch, those two going, you know, head
to head and you know, crushing balls out out of
the stadium, it would be a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Jason Stewart is a Dodger fan. He's been on record
of saying that he did not want shoeo Tani there
it is on to compete in the Home Run Derby
basically because of his injury. Correct? Is that is that
the sole reason?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Yeah, you know, it's too bad that he pulled out
today because I really thought this was going to be
the topic that carried us through the All Star Game.
I thought he was going to go right up to
the weekend and we could talk about it on sports
talk radio all next week. But no, he did what
I thought he should do. And that's because you talk
about the cop out, and I agree with you. I
(08:40):
think that it's given the top name player is a
reason to not do it, a convenient reason not to
do it. And I also don't believe that it has
much of an impact on your production after the contest.
But I will say this, you hear about how it's
a different kind of exercise. In other words, it's much
different than batting practice. It's much different than cage work.
(09:03):
You hear about how people how they didn't realize how
over exerting it is, how they would have like soreness.
And you probably experienced this, Carrie too, like soreness with
muscles that you don't typically have soreness with, like hamstring
soreness the next day, or like you know, a tweak
in the flexor or whatever. Like they have these little
(09:24):
like over exertion kind of semi injuries coming off of it.
And I just didn't want the you know, our best player,
the daughter's best player, and the best player in the
entire league, to do something as he's over exerting himself
to injure that arm. He's been able to hit, and
he's been able to hit well all season, so obviously
the rehab and hitting don't have a whole lot to
(09:46):
do with each other. But I think that you're doing
a little bit, that little extra, and that's kind of
where the injuries happen, right when you're trying to do
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
And that was my issue.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
It's overcompensating, right so if you're trying to hit the ball,
if you're intense trying to hit the ball out of
the park, there is an extra gear that you have
to go with. I mean, you can have your normal swaying, yes,
but you also want to be impressive as well, and
that's part of it. How far the balls are going too,
So it's a little different.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That is my big thing. And I do want to
clear up something that I said because I got confused.
Dylan Hernandez covering the Lakers rights for the La Times,
Dave Roberts is the one who said it's just not
his responsibility alone to carry the game of baseball. That
was the quote. Dylan obviously took that quote. I just
looked at it wrong and read it wrong, but wanted
to clarify. Roberts sang, basically, Otani does this on a
(10:34):
daily basis. He doesn't need to do it for the
home run derby. Clarified that portion of it. The length
of the home runs is actually the thing that I
want to see. Exactly last year, in the home run
Derby that was won by Vladimir Guerrero Junior, he beat
Randy rose Arena in the finals twenty five to twenty three.
Vlad Junior ended up hitting about seventy five home runs
(11:00):
last year in the home run derby, a Rose Arena
hit about the same amount, even maybe even a little
bit north of that. So the amount of home runs
that you see is not the great spectacle exactly. The
spectacle is when one goes five hundred feet. And I think,
(11:22):
if we were to really be honest, and I've been
fortunate enough to go to a couple of home run Derbies,
and honestly, Carrie, they're a little bit boring because it
just kind of takes forever and by the time you
get to the finals, you've been to the park for
two and a half hours. You've seen I don't know,
(11:42):
one hundred and sixty home runs hit amongst all of
the players already. Yeah, so when you see another home
run go over, it doesn't have the same effect as
maybe the first couple that you've seen. And I think
the reason when you guys are talking about trying to
alter your swing and doing different things, it's also because
you're hitting twenty six home runs in a round. Julio
(12:03):
Rodriguez in front of the home fans last year put
on a show, hit forty one home runs in his
first round. Wow, yeah, crazy, you know, and guess what
he lost in the second round because he was so
down tired for what he did in the first round.
It's not natural. So you know what I want to see.
I want to see the farthest home run and you
(12:24):
know who I want to see. I want to see
if Aaron Judge is the one that can hit it.
And instead of making guys hit eighty home runs or
to go through all of these stages to try to
hit all of these home runs, which doesn't make it
a fan friendly deal, put Judge out there, put Harper
out there, put Stanton out there, the guys that you
can if healthy, and say, you guys get ten home runs,
(12:48):
you guys get ten hits, farthest home run, million bucks,
and you want to watch a show like just to
see what Aaron Judge and maybe a million dollars doesn't
do it. We throw a million out there. But the
reason to just you know what, You're not gonna have
to hit eighty home runs. You're not gonna be up there,
you know, swinging in the sun. But if you go
go there, take ten pitches or ten hits in a batting,
(13:11):
which you would normally do in a batting situation. Anyway,
everybody's taking BP by the way, on Monday of the
All Star Game, just like they are, you know, on
before Tuesday's game. If you go out there and just say, guys,
put on a show, and who can hit the farthest,
that's what I would want to see. Who hits one
five hundred, who hits one five h five, who hits
(13:32):
one out of the park? Who does you know? Like
those those are the things that I want to see.
That's what I would like to see from the home
run Derby, And then maybe just maybe you can get
those guys back into the derby. Judges have been in
since twenty seventeen. Otani hasn't competed since twenty twenty one.
Who's the only time that he did. So maybe instead
of having guys hit eighty home runs a night, you
just have him go up there and take ten swings
(13:53):
and try to hit the farthest one that you can see.
And I agree with that.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
But the crazy part about that's that is I'm sure
there has to be a competition committee that has to
address certain things when it comes to baseball, obviously, and
the home run derby the way that it stands, it's
just it's too taxing. And the fact that they haven't
come up with this idea now is just if.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
They have to fill a TV show. That's what ESPN
is like, we need three hours of programming. How do
we extend this? Okay, we're gonna do it this way,
do it that way, and do it this way and
do it that way. Now what they're gonna do, they're
gonna have all eight players hit home runs. Then after that,
I think then they're gonna filter it into the four
players and make it a bracket. So it's head to head.
That way a little bit limits it because if you
(14:37):
beat the other player, then you could just stop at
that point. If you've passed the opponent that you play,
you don't have to hit as many, but still you're
gonna be hitting a bunch of home runs. Somebody's gonna
probably end up hitting seventy five home runs in batting
practice and then they get the extra time for as
far and it just it doesn't have to be that.
And it's not that Vladimir Guerrero Junior isn't a a
(15:01):
popular name and star in Major League baseball. It's just
the fact of we want to see the star of stars,
and if there's a way that you can do it,
if you can tell Aaron Judge to show up there,
who wouldn't want to just watch him? I mean, heck,
he's on pace to break you know, his record of
the American League record is now we call him for
a home runs you know, he's on pace to break that.
(15:21):
So who wouldn't want to see him in an instance
like this, maybe hitting a five hundred you know foot shot.
That to me is what major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And I have to say to Jason right now, Otani's
second judge is number one in the league. Right now,
He's the best player in this league right now. And
Otani is right there nipping at his tails. But I mean, obviously,
the season that judges happen, it's just remarkable.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
I'll give you that.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
I'll give you that until show starts pitching, Like, yes,
this was this is definitely the soft launch of sho
Hell ti g He's just sitting And I love Dan's point.
I don't know why I've never even thought about this,
but that is the way to make a pretty tired
event more more interesting. At the very least, draw attention
to and or reward the longest home runs in the
(16:06):
current format at least. Yeah, Like I'd never even think
about that or even like the tiebreaker is the accumulation
of distance compared to the other guys, because each one
is measured, right, yeah, yes, I mean yeah, make something
out of that distance.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Furthest home run gets to the finals, you know, like
that's just something like that, or figure out a way
to make it. It's it's so much. It just looked
at They did a round by round breakdown MLB dot
Com did last year and in the final round lad
Guerrero hit fourteen home runs in a minute thirteen. It
was a home run every five seconds. Wow. Again, that's
(16:46):
that's amazing. That's not baseball. I don't care if your
pitch clock is three seconds, like that is not baseball.
That is just you know, it's wack bam bam, bam,
bam bam. It's like Kendrick Lamar, like you know, right,
like it's like it is it's but that's not baseball again,
(17:08):
just another home run, another home run. We will see
if they change Jason's favorite tradition of having unqualified youth
out in the outfield trying to catch. How is that?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
How was that ever allowed? And how is that allowed
moving forward? Like, honestly, I hate to bring this back
to like a real serious note, but major League Baseball
is libel if there is a serious injury, and god
forbid even worse, like I have no idea why they
would put kids in front of these flaming line drives.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
Yeah, I know that's right.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
And a kid got hit last night at the Dodger game, right,
uh Otani hits the home run on the forehead on
the four.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Yeah, from that distance. Listen, Jason's a father, I'm a father.
I don't know the conversation that Jason would have. My
son's three, So you wouldn't understand that I'd be out
in the outfield when he's twelve years old, Like it
would break my heart, but I would be like, there
is no way in heck that you are going out
and fielding baseballs in a home run derby. You're no
(18:12):
way possible. I don't care that you're three hundred feet
away from Vladimir Guerrero Junior. Those line drives are humming
from VP. Oh yes, yeah, there is absolutely no way.
As Rob Barker would say, no, way, no, how that
is not happening, my goodness. And by the way, it's
not just four kids, it's forty. So you're not only
(18:35):
dodging baseballs, you're actually dodging other kids who aren't as
qualified to go and try to catch those baseballs. What's
the age requirement on that? I think like they max
it out maybe at fifteen, but there seems to be
like some ten year olds running around that. I have
no business being out there. Absolutely not. All right, he's
carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. We try to fix the
(18:55):
home run derby, but Joey Otani not going to for
the betterment of jas and maybe for the betterment of
his elbow.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
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Speaker 2 (19:18):
It's Covino and Rich here at Fox Sports Radio hanging out.
He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer, Brian Finley's here, Jason Stewart,
so's Iowa Sam Ex. Mary macrord of the studio. Yes,
and she's trying to tell you to sing with emotion.
On Sunday, No Dary it's not about you, It's about
your friend that you're honoring. Gets through it. Yes, I'm
(19:42):
through it. I knew mirror is going to I knew
mirror it was going to be to give me. You're
not the music biz stuff. No, but I I I.
If I'm sitting there and I'm listening to you singing,
I'm like, get through the song. I didn't come here
to your Kerry Prye. All right, get about back Cary
twenty five Roads. You can find me at dan byro
on Fox. This may make Iowa Sam cry. I oppose
(20:04):
the question of of uh, who would you rather watch?
Bronnie James or Caitlin Clark? And Sam, these are tears
of joy because Cameron tweets in Clark, how is this
even a question? So I'm gonna pose it to carry first,
and then we'll go around. Ronnie James is gonna play
in the Summer League for the Lakers. I believe it's
(20:25):
this this weekend. I think of their games in Sacramento
that he's gonna be playing in. We've watched Caitlin Clark,
but we'll continue to watch her over these next couple
of weeks of the w NBA season. And the than
the Olympics will end up taking taking place and and
we'll maybe be wrapped up into that, or we won't
be because she's not there. But in the near future,
(20:46):
Ronnie James or Caitlin Clark, who are you more interested.
Speaker 3 (20:49):
In the near future? It is Ronnie James. It is
we already think he's not supposed to be in the league,
or he's fair you know, unfairly been put in the
position that we feel like he's not ready for the league, right,
(21:10):
and he's going to go against some contemporaries, some peers
who are probably going to feel the same way, and
they are going to try to really do what has
been done to Caitlyn Clark, I believe as her professional
career has taken off. So I want to see if
we're going to have that same type of is there
(21:32):
going to be reverenced there or is there going to
be some disdain? So I kind of want to see that.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
Very good points, Iowa, Sam, I know that you're biased
in all of this, but I will pose the question
to you who do you would you rather see over
these next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
This answer may surprise you, Dan, but I'm going to
say Brownie James is really wow, it's playing into the
We don't really know what he is. So it's like
and there's a lot of you know, and I'm sure
a lot of the w NBA players when Kaitlyn Clark
came into the league, they were like, why is she
getting so much attention? She's great, but she hasn't she
hasn't done anything at the pro level yet. Those questions
are hovering around Bronnie James. But I think like tenfold
(22:08):
because unlike Bronnie James, Kaitlin Clark did quite a bit
of scoring and performing and playing at the college level.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
He didn't.
Speaker 6 (22:16):
He is a mystery. And again, if his dad wasn't
lebron James, and if it wasn't Lakers, he wouldn't have
been drafted. But he has a chance to go in
and use that as motivation and prove everybody wrong. If
he fails or if he's just he's a completely if
he's completely insignificant in the league, there's gonna be a
lot of negativity, a lot more than if Kaitlyn Clark,
you know, continues to average like sixteen, seven and six
(22:37):
or whatever it may be. She's proving herself, so far
at the WNBA level we have it's a complete mystery.
With Bronnie James, there was some a point of contention
between you and our executive producer Jason Stewart in saying
that you feel that she has lived up to the expectation.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
I do. I do think so.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Yes in general, yes, and so even if right now
from shooting from three, she's not been great. You know,
there's gonna be stats that go up and down this season,
but overall she's she's stuffed. She does stuff the stat sheet.
Jason just I think wants to see more of that
that flare that she showed at Iowa, but I think
that'll come in time.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
So Iowa, Iowa. Sam.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
So you think at sixteen points in the league she
would be a generational player with those numbers.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
I.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Noah, no, right, I'm saying though that averaging right now
in her rookie season sixteen, six and seven, whatever it is.
You know, she is holding up her side of why
she was the number one overall pick, Like if you do,
it's been quietly done. If you look at some of
the little you know, blurbs, they show up during games,
like she's breaking rookie records like left and right, not
(23:44):
only for the fever but for the WNBA WNBA in general.
So I think, like, quietly she is putting together a
great up to par rookie season. Jason wants to see
like more and I get that too, Yeah, because that's
what we want people to hold on to.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
That we want to hold onto their attention to the WNBA.
With that, I mean, he.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Says so many things that I think are just incorrect.
This whole thing wasn't to live up to what a
first pick is, right, I mean, who was the first
pickwas Yer Boston. We've seen what she she brings. She's
not great. The expectations weren't the win Rookie of the
Year even or to just prove her work right. The
expectations were to be as carry just put it, generational.
(24:24):
But you can't really define transcendent. Transcendent is transform transformative?
Transformative or can you define that in like number of
wins stats?
Speaker 5 (24:34):
Like? No?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
No, no, you define it by the eye test. Sure,
you define it with no measurables, no measurable.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
So that's not very fair, is it.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
No, think about this, So Lebron James came into the league,
and I hate talking about him, because we talked about
him so much right now, but that's a generational player,
came from day one, and we can see it. Even
with the eye test. You're like, no, this dude's different.
And then the numbers backed it up as well.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
You know what I mean. I'm excited to see Bronnie James. Yes,
and I decide that Kateln Clark has not lived up
to the expectations that we thought. It doesn't mean she's
not having a great rookie season and we're actually seeing her,
seeing her grow within the season, but the levels of
Bronnie James, because if he can't hold his own, this
(25:19):
isn't even talking about starring. This is about holding your
own in a summer league. My goodness. Like there, there,
it is, it is, It will not end, and honestly
it may not be fair, but the holding your own
is the bare minimum and that is what he has
to do, and that, to me is is intriguing. I think,
(25:41):
are you on the Bronnie James train too?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
I think there, And we'll go back back to the
Caitlyn thing, like I think I know what Caitlin Clark
is on the WNBA level the summer at least I
know what it is. It's the sixteen and seven or
whatever we keep quoting. That's no longer interesting to me.
So Brownie takes up all of my attention and this
and this debate. I definitely need to see how he
(26:06):
how he just how he just exists with big, big players,
big boy players.
Speaker 2 (26:10):
Right, is Brian gonna make this a clean sweep or
are you gonna go with a CC on this one? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I'm gonna go with the clean sweep. And there's this
one thing that happens to be a part of the
lexicon of sports fans, and it's hate watching. I think
there's hate watching from both. But when you throw in
the nepotism, there's the a certain population that just wants
to see him fail, wants to see him get blocked
in the face, wants to see how he handles that
(26:36):
wants to see the green light? What what? How many
shots is he gonna be able to take? Are they
gonna let him take shots? What is his playing time
going to be? What happens if he struggles and turns
it over? Is he gonna come immediately out of the game.
I think that people don't realize there's a lot on
the line with Lebron James's legacy by pushing his son
forward like this that people are recognizing.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
And the crazy thing about that part of it is
is even if the Lakers are going to allow him
to be subjected to this as much as we want
to see it, will there be time constraints? Will he
play a little bit here and there just to show
glimpses so you can't have this full analysis of what's
going on or what he can be. So that's another
(27:19):
interesting part of it too, like will they allow him
to play play play and really go through that process.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
I to answer that question, I think they'd be better
off hiding him offensive then than actually opening it up.
And then you just say, like, we're trying to do
some other things. But if you don't make an effort,
then you're still protected in a way. It's in the NBA.
The NBA loves the unknown. It's why guys are getting
(27:44):
drafted at nineteen and Dalton connect is thought to be
too old, you know, at twenty three and coming in
and guys who are been in college for a few
years that you know could be top picks maybe fall
a little because of their age. Because you always want
to be of what could be and what will be,
and the unknown is more intriguing than the known. And
(28:05):
I think in this situation, the Lakers will look at
it as like, well, the unknown buys us sometime.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
That's my point, And it still will lend the mystery
throughout the off season to the start of the season.
That question will still linger and that will still be
a part of the lure or the mystique of Bronnie James.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
So I know that first round picks and second round
picks are not the same. But when we started the
show talking about lebron and then you and I even
had the conversation of the break, and it's something that
we talked about again. When the Lakers drafted Dalton Connect,
it actually feel I feel bad for Bronnie and I
feel bad for Dalton Connect, but I use them as
just because of the examples that they are and how
(28:45):
different they are. But when the Lakers drafted Dalton Connect,
it was this message to show what a great coach
JJ Reddick was, that Reddick's mind was already working on
all of the ways they could utilize his offensive cap abilities, right,
and then when they draft Johnny Ronnie James they're like,
he's a hard worker, he earned it, you know, like
(29:05):
it's you're like, okay, so you're obviously not drawing up.
And he plays for I mean, he only average six
points a game in the in the select few games
that he played in college. So now I think what
you're gonna see is the concerted effort to show Dalton
kN X offensive game and then hide it and then
let Brodny James try to develop that over a year.
And honestly, next year Summer League would be the time
(29:26):
where maybe you would want to have Ronnie James. But
if they if they try to unwrap this present and
say here you go, this is what you got, it
could turn bad very quickly, really quickly.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
And I think that's why I brought it up, is
because I would see that being what they would try
to do this summer, because I mean, it's just too
much pressure and too much expectations and anything that he does,
even if he played well, if he averaged ten and
three and two steals, like, there's still going to be
just it's going to be broken down to a degree
that's just unfair.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I think I saw when the TV schedule came out,
they had six games that Ronnie ESPN otherwise the summer
of the games Ronnie ESPN two or NBA TV. Three
of those games were Laker games. So it's like the
three out of the six that they are making sure
that we get to see Roni Bronnie James, and maybe
to Brian's point, they should just be like love them
or hate them, watch them here.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Well, if you guys hide them, hide him, then there's
more pressure to say and going at him, do you
deserve the contract? So that's the downside of hiding him
for because eventually, when are you going to face the music?
And if you keep hiding and then you're gonna hear
more people saying why did he deserve that contract?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, well, you keep up the scheme as long as
you can. You try to run it out. That's that's
the point of because if you're the Lakers, you know
the answer to the question, right like, you know what
the answer is going to be and it's not gonna
be good, So you don't want other people to know
that answer. At some point, I think that they would
rather handle the backlash of not unveiling Bronnie James than
(30:59):
the actual reality of unveiling him and him not being
what they are trying to build him up to me.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, you give him that answer after after the summer
the summer games, then you're in trouble.
Speaker 4 (31:11):
That was a part of the interesting part today. And
the Adrian Wojanowski piece is that he just stated overtly
that that le Brony's going to be with the team
and playing with Lebron in the first week of the season.
That was a weird like addition. And then spend the
rest of the year in the G League and it's like,
if you do not hide him in summer league and
(31:32):
he's exposed to someone who just doesn't belong, yes, then
that first week is going to look like even more
of a side show.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yes man, they brought it amongst themselves, poor kid. Do
you think Lebron gets a statue outside Staples? No way,
I think he does. Do you think he does?
Speaker 4 (31:49):
Actually?
Speaker 2 (31:51):
Yeah? Wow, I do. No, I get it. I understand
what with you know who they are, and I think
at some point its feel like that's good for their
brand to have Lebron b wo But yes, all right.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
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Speaker 2 (32:20):
Excivino and Richiere at Fox Sports Radio, He's the all
pro Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer, Kerry and I team
up every Sunday on Fox Sports Radio newon the Eastern
nine Pacific. But for the next two Sundays, I'm on vacation,
So it's just Carrie is going to be hanging out
and having fun on the Carrier Roads show. Carry Roads.
Hopefully you'll have me back after that. We're going to
hear some interesting audio from New York Giants GM Joe Shane.
(32:44):
In just a second, I'll give you my apology, but
I do have to tell you. Do you know that
the WNBA voting was much more popular this year than
it was a year ago? Do you know how much
voting increased from last year to this year? Like thirty
thousand votes? Right? That would that be? Is that what
you think from if you gave a percent for the
total of votes from last year to this year, how
(33:06):
many votes do you think that voting increased by?
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Oh, I know the voting as a whole increased, but
from the last high, I think it was what seventy seventy.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I'm way off anyway, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,
I've got what did you say? Iosam? I'm sorry you
were in my ear. I'm sorry.
Speaker 6 (33:22):
I was just going to say a good way to
summarize it is five figures to six figures?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Would that be? Uh? For every player? For every for
every player? Total votes? Yeah, got it? RG three to
two to this. Total votes for the top five players
from last year to this year increased by five hundred
and ninety eight percent. That's six Haitlin Clark had seven
(33:48):
hundred thousand votes. She was the highest vote getter the
in in balloting, the highest vote her last year. I
had ninety five thousand and she had seven hundred thousand.
I know, I saw your lip.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
And it wasn't just her though other players were getting
Well yeah, that's because you're not just voting for her,
right Like like she brought everybody there to vote. She
brought people most everybody six hundred thousand for Leah Boston
and the next person five hundred and fifty eight. Like whatever,
I'm not like one president, you vote for like ten
other people on their five other people on the voting.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
So there's a there's a ballot that says multiple people.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Right, yeah, yeah, you just yeah, you just made to
fill out your Yeah, you fill out your your team.
Speaker 2 (34:27):
There, gotcha? All right? I ripped Hard Knocks off season.
I said, I have I only liked the training camp version.
I did not watch the entire Giants episode last night.
I got ten minutes in and I'm like, I better
go to bed. But boy did I love what I saw.
I am in, I am sold. And this is what
I love about the training camp version of it is
(34:48):
the behind the scenes stuff, the conversations. This was Joe
Shane in a snippet talking about the Giants decision this
past offseason, what they're gonna do with Sakwan Barkley, who
obviously he could have been up for a new contract,
could have used the franchise tag on him, and then
you got Daniel Jones making is forty million. This was
Joe Shane explaining about the Giant's decision that they had
(35:09):
to make earlier this offseason.
Speaker 7 (35:11):
We've got to grade the offensive line, and you're paying
the guy forty million dollars. It's not to hand them
all off to a twelve million dollars back. My plan
is address the offensive line. At some point here in
free agency, we're sitting a six. There's a chance there's
an offensive weapon there. This is the year for Daniel
plan all along was give him a couple of years.
Is he our graph for the next ten years, or
(35:32):
do we need to pivot and you'll find somebody else.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
All of that stuff is probably said on the microphones
that we are talking about here on Fox Sports Radio
that have been topic at conversations. Yeah, but when you
hear a person of power talking like that and saying,
all right, we're not gonna pay Saquon, we got to
deal with this offensive line. And they signed a bunch
of guys in free agency, didn't do anything in the draft,
but signed a bunch of guys in free agency to
try to show up that line. His point about finding
(35:57):
the playmaker in the draft, guess what they did. They
draft him. The league neighbors sixth the overall wide receiver
from LSU. So it is all on Daniel Jones ten
times more in my mind now that we've heard it
from the GM, more so than us just even speculating
or anything else. And his point about Saquon Barkley is
representative of the NFL as its entirety. If you have
a great quarterback, you don't need to pay a lot
(36:18):
for a running back. And you I don't know if
you don't need to, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (36:24):
I think that's the difference because if you got a
player like Derek Henry, you or say Kawon Barkley, you
do want that guy there, you just can't. You just
can't afford to do it. But again, it's about Daniel Jones.
It is you paid them all this money. We need
to find out if he's the guy. And that's true.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
And the point about Daniel Jones as well is now
when you hear that bite is like why do we
pay Daniel Jones anyway? Why you're like, like, maybe we
could have kept Saquon if we wouldn't have given him
the long term deal. That's the other point of it.
But when you look throughout the you know, Patrick Mahomes
has got a variety of running backs. Isaa Pacheco a rookie?
You know, I was trying to think of like the
top backs, Christian McCaffrey obviously, but then you got brock
(37:03):
Perty who's on his rookie deal. At some point that
marriage is gonna end up being a certain way. Jordan
Love's gonna want his contract Raiders. The Packers just paid
a lot, you know, to bring Josh Jacobs over, formerly
of the Raiders. We'll see if that works or not,
but I just loved it. I apologize hard knocks. I'm
gonna watch all of these Giants episodes. I am in Yeah,
Daniel Jones time. I want to see if he can
(37:23):
do anything. I don't think he is that guy, but
we'll find out here soon. He's carry Roads. I'm Dan Byron.
Of course, the training camp version has the Chicago Bears.
Happy forth to you, happy for Hey, A best of
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