July 3, 2024 • 38 mins
Dan and Kerry in for C & R as they discuss the moves the Lakers have made this off-season in their attempts to placate Lebron James. Dan and Kerry talk about Klay Thompson's departure from Golden State and the reports that Klay was very unhappy with the Warriors over the last year. Kerry shares something special.
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But Carrie and I are with you for the next
two hours. Lebron James is going to be with the Lakers,
I think for the next two years. But again it's
all up to him. As the news of the day
is Lebron James. No surprise that he's back with the Lakers,
(01:43):
zero surprise whatsoever, and really not much of a surprise
in terms of his contract except a few other things.
And these things, no matter how minute they are, Carrie Roads,
when it comes to Lebron James, always end up being
a bigger thing. And it's a bigger thing considering the
news that we had yesterday when the Lakers introduced Bronni
(02:06):
James as part of their draft class of course, drafted
in the second round and the draft just a week ago.
But the conversation with the Lakers never stops. And maybe
we're making a mountain out of a mole hill. But
let's let's start with that Lebron James contract. It's a
two year deal near a max one hundred and four
(02:26):
million dollars over the two years, but the second year
is a player option, right. It also includes a no
trade clause, so the Lakers cannot trade Lebron James. Just
off the top of your head, do you know how
many players in the NBA have a no trade clause?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I do?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I do know what information? It's only two and the
other is Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So that tells you a little something. Okay, first of all,
whoever did Bradley Beal's contract is og?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Comes amazing, Like, I mean, that person is the the supreme,
the numero uno, the Godfather. But it's also the fact
of why, like is is there is there a reality?
Is there a real world where the Lakers would ever
trade Lebron James? No, no, no, and so like like
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just the fact. But again it's always getting more, like
wanting more where it just never ends with the Lakers.
It's the drafting of his of his son, It's it's
getting his contract, it's hiring of JJ Reddick, it's more
and more and more and more, and I just don't
know when it ends for the Lakers. And and that's
(03:38):
that's like my takeaways. I look at this is now
and and by the way, for the next how many
years it's going to be, whether it be the next
three years or four years where Brony's in LA Are
we going to have to deal with every off season
of Lebron James deciding on whether he wants to retire
or not like that is I think that the point
(04:00):
that we are at. And to me, it's just another
layer of the Lakers always giving into Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, we talk about acquiescing to somebody. I mean, this
is the ultimate case of that. Right, You're gonna be
held hostage for as long as Lebron wants to hold
you hostage. And so to be in that sweepstakes with
the Lebron at this point in his career, is it
worth it? Right? Are they gonna win this year coming
(04:28):
up or the next two years? Probably not. So you're
investing in Lebron being the main attraction that's gonna always
keep the arena field. But it's the Lakers. The arena's
probably gonna be filled anyway. So what do you stand
to gain with this? Is it just association with the
Lebron James brand, which is bigger than life. It's bigger
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than anything we've ever seen in that sport, right. I mean,
he has so much pool, so much gravitas, and I
think it starts and ends with brand because the brand
of play that he has on the court isn't with
him being a number number one option or number two option,
which we've seen the last couple of years, isn't enough
for them to win. So where does it stop? I
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don't know. But the version that we're getting right now
with him and him holding the biggest brand hostage is
pretty it's pretty it's pretty insane. You use the word
hostage a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So we're going to play back a little bit of
Brownie James from yesterday because I know that there's some
stuff that that stood out with that.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I just I just at.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
One point, if you're you're rich, Paul and Lebron do
you say, like, maybe we should give them one, maybe
we should give him a break, maybe keeping them under
the second apron and taking a million dollar less. Is
there their way of of it going back and forth? Sure,
but it sure seems like it's been, you know, a
(05:53):
one sided sort of deal. And the Lakers have been
somewhat criticized this offseason for their inn to bring in
other players that we thought maybe could have been candidates.
Obviously Klay Thompson the biggest name that didn't work out.
He chose to go to the Dallas Mavericks, which I
think a lot of feel is an indictment on the
Lakers considering his you know, connections there. But nothing has
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necessarily gone right for the Lakers, and that's a constant
message over these last couple of days. And the only
things that seem to actually be getting done are all Lebron,
James and Rich Paul connected.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it's all we talked about. It's Sunday, it's all calculated.
The leak, it's that comes out, when it comes out,
is always in Lebron's favor, even the contract right he's
willing to accept under the max. If we get this,
it's always a caveat, But the caveat is always something
that has to do with Lebron or his team, and
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so we see that that's number one. So everything about
that's always calculated. But then think about any free agent
that has joined them or joined Lebron on the stretch
of his career. They stand to gain no praise, but
there's but they stand the game the blame. And so
why would any any guy that has a chance to
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go play with Lebron that's had a name or been
an All Star or a big or thought of as
a big time player in this league want to go
be subjected to that, especially after saying what's Ruthblick?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, you know what's interesting because I know your
time in the NFL, there have been some some veterans
that have come aboard and maybe had different rules than
other people. I think that Lebron's career has gone off,
has gone on for so long that he has now
outlasted pretty much most of his peers in the NBA.
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And so if you go back a decade ago, and
it's crazy to think that a decade ago was twenty
fourteen at the end of his heat run, but it's
been ten years and even more than that, Lebron James
had guys that would be willing to come and play
for him, Yes, and there were certain players, and they
(08:01):
would kind of issue some of the younger people. Some
of the younger players that maybe they could bring along
didn't necessarily develop many many players, and instead would rather
take veterans that were Lebron's peers, or even guys that
were older than him. And this is the problem. When
you go to a ninety eight year old's funeral, none
of their friends are there because they're all gone. And
(08:24):
so Lebron now, in terms of wanting to bring people in,
there's nobody left in the league that would even want
to do what the Lebron old thing would do because
they're not connected to Lebron. He's not their age. And
the other thing is is maybe just maybe some of
them had heard stories about other people being passed along
or pushed to the side or moved on, and so
(08:46):
now that doesn't seem appealing to them. And so it's
not to be careful what you wish for. But what
worked ten years ago is now turning around and biting
you in the butt. And I feel that that is
part of what's happening with the Lakers and Lebron James
and now he's getting everything that he wants. But that's
not the NBA of ten years ago, and there are
people that don't want to play that way.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, nobody wants to have one guy be the beneficiary
of all the things. We talk about. We can take
it in switch sports, right, we can go to Caitlin Clark.
We've talked about that a lot, but he's been the
beneficiary of a lot of the story is surrounding the
blossoming sport of the WNBA, right, And so there's just
(09:26):
a normal feeling of like, Okay, enough enough, And I
think that's kind of what's happening here. How much pull
did Farv have when he came a lot and.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's someone with yeah, zero equity into the Jets, and
Lebron's got a little with the Lakers, but still like
even though he's been there a while now, I don't
know if it rises to the level of it, but
it is you are catering to your star. Like are
there any parallels with the Jets to what Lebron and
the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Sure, but I don't think Yes, there was power surrounding
what Brett Favre could do and and maybe we couldn't
do as a team prior. Right, Like there were some changes,
there were some things that he had his own locker
room with the coaches, right, he had the same dress
code didn't apply to him that applied to us at
certain points. But even in that small amount of time,
(10:19):
us as players, we recognized that and we spoke up
about that after a certain points. So do the players
that come their field. They had the cache to speak
up on some of these things that Lebron is doing.
And it's obviously the answers no when you see that.
But for us, we spoke up about that. And that's
why that that union didn't last long. So didn't things
didn't change or like they did change.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
In that time.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, like everybody now that Brett Favre doesn't have to
wear a suit to the road game, so everybody's not
wearing suits to the road like that far was actually
wearing the suit.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's that the rules relaxed for everybody else exactly so
he could wear his wranglers what he's carried on. I'm
dan Byer Kerrie used the word hostage. This was Bronnie
James talking about I guess his future when he was
introduced yesterday as the Lakers second round pick here in LA.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen it,
stuff media and stuff on it in the internet and
stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity, But
you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this for
my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different, but
it's it's it's more amplified, for sure. But I can
get through it.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I don't think I would just like when I get there.
I don't think it would be like to be like
me and my dad, Like how would I would?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know, I would be happy about getting.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
To the league instead of me thinking about playing with
my dad. But that's like not my mindset or not
at all. I'm just trying to put in the work
and see where it takes me pay.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So there's a little double dose of Bronnie James for you. Yeah, yeah,
riding the company line. Is that what you that's what
you're hearing.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, it's one of those things. It feels to me
like he's been kept captive in this room for a
couple of months, getting prepped on what to say what
not to say, and then they say, show up to
this place at this time, and you're going to speak,
you know, in a way that's not going to draw
attention to anything other than you know what you're going
(12:21):
to put on the court. And it seemed like there
was no emotion, there was no sense of him being himself,
and so it seems like it's very much calculated, which
is everything that represents Lebron and so that's there's no
separation there.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
There's there's no way to get to know him, and
and that's the thing of usually with rookies, whether it
be in your sport, the NFL or in the NBA.
I even felt bad for Dalton Connect and I said this,
I said this yesterday that Dalton Connect is a guy
whose story is magnificent. Of a guy who started out
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in a junior college, then went to D two and
transfer to the SEC, which player of the year, and
then gets drafted by the Lakers. That's amazing. Yeah, that
doesn't even give a second thought. And I also thought
that Bronnie's wording. And I don't want to sit here
and criticize Bronni because I don't think it's Bronnie's choice
exactly in all of this, but there are a bunch
of different ways to go. And what it is is
(13:19):
it sounds like it's a presidential debate, or at least
Bronnie is coherent, but he's saying the things that are
sticking to the topic and sticking to the script prepped. Yes, yes, yes,
that this is the point and if they talk about this,
go back to this sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, And that's what it feels like. I mean, it
legitimately feels like if the way that it's going right
now and the way that he's approaching this, and I'm
sure he's he has to handle it a little bit delicately,
but we're not going to know who he is, and
this is a chance for him to actually, as as
he's becoming a man, to to you know, distance himself
(13:59):
from that brand and be his own person. And so
I just don't know if planned with his dad, he's
gonna have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, there's gonna be a time ris dad's not in
the league and he's always gonna have his name, And honestly,
it's we don't know if Bronni will be in the
league when his dad is out of the league. And
so like to the point of here's and maybe that
goes back to the point of the original contract. I
am not surprised in the least that Lebron is going
(14:30):
for a year to year contract. The cynic in me
is like, of course, Lebron wants to make it about
himself as this goes on. But there's also a part
of me to that point that thinks, like, well, as
long as I'm here, they're not gonna get rid of Bronni,
and I'm gonna take care of Bronni in that way,
and this is how we're gonna go, because this isn't
(14:50):
your team, this is my team, and this is how
I want things to run. And that is crazy to
think of one of the most storied franchises in the
NBA that he has taken over that franchise and maybe
now is holding them hostage, not only now with his contract,
but Bronni's contract, and and what ends up happening to Bronnie.
And at some point Bronni's got to grow himself. Yes,
(15:11):
and it would probably behoove him that his dad wasn't
still in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, but what you just said is very much a
real thing. If his Dad's not in the NBA. Will
he be in the NBA after that time? So he
has in theory two years or a year here to
really show what he can do. And again we talk
about Bron having that he can he can opt out
in that second year. Maybe Lebron ends up going to
another team and he comes there there as well. But
(15:38):
like it's always that kind of At this moment, almost
seems like a package deal. He's carry Rhoads.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
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Speaker 4 (15:47):
Crew is hanging out. We're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Carrie's got something big that's happening this weekend and and
it's it truly is and it's a it's gonna be
a special, special deal. However, we may need to help
him so things don't get out of hand. Okay, correct,
that's coming up in about twenty minutes or so. Hit
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Speaker 4 (16:29):
A happy early fourth to you.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
If you are traveling, please be safe out there, and
if you aren't traveling still please be saved with your fireworks.
Oh Man ust in Southern California. Have to worry about
the wildfires that could come with it as well. But
it's hot everywhere, so I'm sure that it's gonna be
in most everywhere. Could be an issue. Just be safe
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and enjoy the extended, extended weekend. I don't know they're
gonna have a going away party for Klay Thompson, but
if they are, I think a lot of people are
going to be attending. He saw Steph Curry's tribute to
Clay's he left the sign to deal with the Dallas Mavericks. Now,
Draymond Green has had his opportunity to weigh in on
Clay's departure, speaking on his podcast with the volume Here's
(17:12):
the Warriors Forward about saying bye bye to Clay Thompson.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
When Clay told me I was just able to listen,
you know, and It wasn't like a yo, we could
finish like this so like you should rethink this. It
was just like wow, like all right, like congrass bro,
like I'm happy for you. That's dope, and like I
didn't even attempt to like want to talk him out
of leaving or like, yo, you should stay because like
all the reasons that you would say, like in things
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that you could, yeah, I could make words sound good,
but like those are known because to see him struggle
the way he did last year, I'd hope the care
that you'd have for that person would go far beyond
what you may feel as best for you or what
you want to see.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So some heavy words from Draymond Green. I have a
lot of takeaways from it. But you're the former athlee.
You've seen players come and go. When you hear Draymond
talk about Clay and talking about his future, how do
you respond to those comments.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's it sounds like a pretty mature response to a
situation that, like you said, may not benefit you.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
A lot of times when you're on a team or
you're in a relationship or whatever, it is, like you
can see you can't see the big picture of how
it's going to affect someone else because it's affecting you
directly in that in that scenario, So you're moving a
big figure in their Big three. They've had a lot
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of success, They've had some ups and downs, but way
more success. So a lot of times you want to
live off that success and not be realistic about the
things that are also going on as well. And I
think as you're getting mature, you're able to with you know,
celebrate the wins, but also understand that there is some
truth to the part that I'm not happy in this
(19:00):
to wist anymore. And so I think that's a beautiful
thing to see Draymond actually have that awareness, because a
lot of people wouldn't have that awareness, and Draymond hasn't
had that awareness a lot of time. To see that,
it's pretty cool to see a couple of things popped
into my mind. Number One, and it's not exact parallels,
but it did make me think of Scottie Pippen's time
with the Bulls and in his time, and not that
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they're not that Clay wanted to be the number one
guy or wanted it to be his team, but it's
that that there are different experiences for each player, and
we think that, oh the bulls, Jordan Pippen and Rodman,
you know, Jordan Pippen and Grant. However, you want to
look at it, that their experiences are similar, that they're
all tied into it, and heck.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He's splashed brothers with Steph Curry. So there's even this
two to zero and this, you know, this tandem there.
But their experiences aren't the same. The experiences of Clay
going through his injuries over the last couple of years
are not the same. The season that Clay had this
past year not the same of what Steph is has
gone through. And there is a difference in being number
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one as opposed to number two and number three. And
Steph Curry is that guy in Golden State and that
just like Jordan was that guy in Chicago. And even
when he left for a while, Scotty had a difficult
time that they weren't putting him number one. So then
Jordan comes back and they win three more titles, and
then Scotty goes and plays elsewhere in Portland.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And yeah, and you know, and ended up Houston as well. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's where I kind of draw the Scottie Pippen comparison,
not that Clay wanted to be number one, but it's
a different experience, like, yeah, you're on the same team,
Yeah you're winning the same titles. Yeah you have the
same championship rings, but your experience as a teammate just
completely different.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That's a great point. The Scotty Pippen thing was interesting
because when Jordan did leave to play baseball for a
year and a half, Pippin really proved his worth. We
actually got to see him in that number one, that
lead position. And even then there was some scenarios where
like ku coach would get a play call for him
as the guide and they refused to Yes, there were
(21:09):
things like that that happened, but like you said, that
the experience from Pippen and Jordan would be totally different
explaining in that time period, right, So even like seeing
the Last Dance, it was literally from Jordan's perspective, in
his eyes, telling that story, and you could see that,
you know, Pippen and Horace Grant and all those guys
were a little bit dejected about the way that they
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were conveyed in that in that in that in the
in that documentary. So that's a great, great comparison, and
Pippen went on to have success other places. I in Portland,
they were a minute away from being in the finals,
you know, so he has some experience and this can
kind of be Clay's chance to help, you know, Dallas
get over over to Hump as well and win another championship.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And it's south that Jordan and Pippen were never BFFs,
where it feels like Steph and Clay were. But I
think it also tells you that when you're in the
same situation of just even of your friends or someone
else like the same, their experiences are not the same
as yours. And that's what my you know, my takeaway
from that is there was so much conversation about Clay
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leaving the Warriors, and we've talked about the end of
the era with the Warriors, but I feel that even
the conversation over the last twenty four to thirty six
hours has been Clay saying thanks but no thanks to
the Lakers. And we see Steph post all these pictures
of Clay on Instagram and we know that they signed
the Warriors side Kyle Anderson, you know, so they're starting
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to have life without Clay figuring out their own way
of moving on. But it is interesting to hear Draymond
Green say what he had to say and said it
in a very emotional way, and it can teach you
a lot about life as well.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, just yeah, the maturation man. The we start having kids,
and I understand this thing isn't all about you. It's
about you know, really being of service to others. Then
you want to be the to your brothers. Well. Jason
Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Isn't it amazing? Guys, carry you can speak to this
much better than Dan and I can. When you're in
a room full of people making a whole lot more
money than most of society and you hear about We've
been reading all day with these reports that come out
of how miserable Klay Thompson was on the team. He
had friends, yes, but he was miserable in the way
(23:26):
he thought he was being regarded by the ownership, even
though he's making I don't know what, thirty million bucks
a year, whatever he was making. And it just goes
to show you that in every walk of life, there
are listeners right now, a good portion of them probably
who are suffering from some kind of misery at their job. Yes,
and it's not always tied or often it isn't tied
(23:49):
to how much you're compensated necessarily, it's just the dynamics
of the workplace and human beings and how you're treated
or thought to be treated. That's what's fascinating about.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And now I was just gonna say that's the harshest
part of reality for someone who's been at a place,
you know, and then all of a sudden you're like, hey,
you know, now they're treating me like this or this
is how they think of me.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
So and it's just it's again, it's such it's a
team sport, but it's still you're you're handling real human beings,
individuals that have emotions and have eyes, so they're seeing
how others are being rewarded or not rewarded. Or this
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young and up and comer just got paid and he's
right behind me. But you know, Draymond Green's had issues,
but they're still taking care of him and paying him.
So I've had an injury here and there, and you know,
I've done my service way probably more than you thought
I would, and you can't see that or take care
(24:54):
of that, and so as a human. There's just a
level of betrayal. I don't know if that's the the
perfect word for but that's probably what he feels for it.
And so that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think there's there's also the levels of it, like
if you're if you know you're Klay Thompson, and not
only did you bring four titles to Golden State, there
was a point where you missed significant time because of
your injuries, and you fought back and you worked and
you did all of this to get back to win
that fourth NBA title, and you look at all the
(25:26):
equity that you have. And sometimes it's even just the
littlest of things where that he felt that he was
owed that by the organizations and they aren't doing it,
and and I have there's I give Klay Thompson absolute
reason to be like, all right, this is for me.
And it really stinks that he felt that way. And
(25:49):
I don't know if that was the Warriors. If it
was the Warriors purposely doing it, shame on them, you know,
like in doing that because of what this guy gave
to your organization, or is it just a victor of circumstance?
They did they not recognize the production in balance of
who he is and what he is. That's what it
feels like, you know, to me. And and I think
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that the team is always going to be looked at
as the bad guy when the player ends up leaving.
But that doesn't mean that Clay's feelings aren't validated, and
that maybe the Warriors could have tried to have gone
the extra mile or to have done something to make
things at least remotely better instead of making the final
year of his contract there and being miserable. And I
think a theme that that Jason has pointed out to
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put words in is Clay Thompson finally felt wanted for
the first time in a while, and that was it
was a way to you know. And now he goes
to Dallas and as you know, this new life and
this new feeling and being reinvigorated.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
And that's the thing we can also, I think both
sides can have a valid point, and both both sides
can be accurate in what they're doing and how they're
attacking it. But that leaves the story to the individual again, right,
And so if if the feeling that you feel is
an accurate feeling towards for inside of you and what
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you feel. Then you go out and you do what
you did with Clay. Like Clay went to another team,
he has a chance to prove himself again and I'm
sure he'll be motivated, and you know, we will probably
probably see the best version of Clay and that's a
good thing. And the gold and the Wars will be fine.
They'll pivot and try to put a competitive team out
there and you know, not seem to overpay in their minds,
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and both teams will live on after that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
You know, Clay's in that unique spot where Curry's the
superstar and Greens like the guy that you love to hate,
you know, but like the welcoming, like Steph's always going
to be welcome with open arms with Golden State. But
whenever Clay does return like that, ovation is going to
be off the charts, Yes, And then when he's retired,
it's going to be off the charts as well, because
he carved out his own and they look at his
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trials and tribulations and what he went through.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It really sucks.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
And I think that as Steph Curry knows it, and
Draymond Green knows that, like Steve curR knows it. Yeah,
you know, and and and you also you also had
a change in front office. You know, Bob Myers isn't there.
Mike Dunleavy Jr. Now taking over, So there are other
decisions that maybe you thought were good. And maybe Steve
Kurrs like this is all that I can, you know,
help with, and Joe lacub And Mike Dunlevy Junr. Now
(28:17):
have their own vision for how it's going to go.
I mean, there's just a lot that plays in But
by the way, all of Klay Thompson's feelings one hundred
percent valid.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yes they are.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
What in the world is a player enhancement coach.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
The he's the guy who enhances players. Yeah, that would
be the uh, yes, that definition. You know what I
think this is. I think this is a mending offenses.
Kemba never should have left Charlotte, knowing what we now
know after he left as a free agent, and.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Maybe this is a way to welcome him back. He
truly is.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean, there hasn't been a lot of great Charlotte
Hornet's history, at least of this most recent crew, and
Kemba Walker is part of that history. So maybe this
is just a way of them making up a job
and bringing Kemba Walker back within the organization.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Now, let's find a way to get Kimbo on the payroll, right,
what about player enhancement coach? That sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's the perfect example of maybe just the grass isn't
necessarily greener. Both he and the Hornets were not better
off without each other. They may not have went out
to win an NBA title, but things would have been
better if you would have stuck around.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
They would have not won a title ever. No, no,
but when he was there and he was dynamic, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And the places that he went didn't work out as
much as he would have hoped. Player enhancement coach, Yeah,
I'm going to find out what that means instead of
ped Yeah, let's not get close to that.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That can be a step up man, Brian.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, Brian Finley has got a big occasion coming up
in a little over a week.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Marrin.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yes, she still has time to say no.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
She has a little time.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
She has time to say no. Yeah, So I'm not
exactly sure how to go about that. One of the
biggest things, guys, is trying to get the number down
on who's actually gonna show up because people will say
in your face.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm definitely gonna be there at the wedding, and then
you hear from somebody else, ah, yeah, we can't make it.
We couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. And then
you know, like we're we have to pay for as
many people, so we're supposed to come as whoever that
is that number. So that's always the fun part.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'll tell you what, Brian, I want you to mull
on this and you're gonna get us an answer at
the end of the break. Would you want Carrie Rhoades
to sing at your wedding? Okay, thank you, he's already
got that.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Let me I'll tell you why when we get back.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Okay, Yeah, he's Brian Fanlan, it's Carrie Roads, I'm Dan Byer.
Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam is here as well. Don't worry, Sam,
We've got some Caitlyn Clark talk coming up here on
Cavino and Rich. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the sharpshooter
from Indiana coming up a bit later on in the program.
Carrie's got a bit of a dilemma that we're going
to try to work through and hopefully we can help
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him find his pitch. He's carry Roads. Finda met Carrie
twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer
on Fox. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (31:23):
This is going to be Friendly? What a week from
Saturday on the dance floor? Yes, I can see you
right now. One shoon stamp there it is? Can you
do on Rich? Here at Fox Sports Radio. He's carry Roads,
I'm Dan Byer, Brian Fenley's hanging out. Jason Stewart is here,
so is Iowa Sam. So Friendly's getting married. Would you
have Carrie Rhoads sing at your wedding?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I absolutely would have Carrie Roads sing at the wedding.
I would even go as far as sing officiate the
wedding if we have who we had, so I go
that far.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I also would love to get your guys takes. So
I'm doing the you know how they have certain songs
for different dances.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes, right.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
First of all, my shooting to be wife and I.
We don't have the dance down. We're totally messing it
up here already. We've been practicing so that's a great scene.
But we've got this. We're gonna do a song a
Daddy Dog to dance, so I am this is literally
gonna have it. I'm gonna take my Corgie on the
dance floor and hold her. And there was that song
by a little baby called That's My Dog, you know,
(32:21):
So we're gonna play that while I'm like kind of
moving side to side with my dog.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Amazing, No, that is what is she? What's Kelly gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I know?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So he's just gonna standard. She's gonna join. Nana is
gonna be like what's going on? Like does she have
a dog?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, she might be jealous, but no, we're gonna start out.
We have this song that we're gonna dance to. It's
Louis Armstrong. What a wonderful world, of course. But we've
been practicing it even yesterday and we're still not getting
the timing down. We've got a week or so we're
gonna probably mess this up.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But be what order of the events is the dog
and and and the dance and that stuff the dog do,
just trying to figure that out. Okay, the dog, the.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Dog will be a flower girl in the wedding. And
now you can see what kind of a nerd I am.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To each their own, Brian Fellly, But what is most
important is that you would let Carrie Road sing at
your your wedding. I really I'm flattered, And it's what's
the most important for this conversation. Yes, Carrie has a
special memorial for a close friend of his coming up
on Sunday that he's got to sing at.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The debate is how do you do it?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
How do you do that? How do you do it?
Do you come prepared like, do you study for that?
Do you perform it? Do you get ready to go?
Or do you show up in the moment and be
fully present? Because that's my that's usually how I am.
But I know it's going to be really emotional. So
from you guys, what would what would you guys recommend?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So they're so prepared, it's such an interesting balance because
you obviously going to be emotional. The last thing that
you want to do though is sound cold, right exactly.
And the other thing that you don't want to do
is try to make it the Carrie road show and
carry out notes which I would say, like if you
were at Brian's wedding, number one, can't dress better than
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the groom, so you're not gonna do that. And then
when you sing, you have to remember that it's not
about you on stage. It's about the couple, whether if
they're dancing with a dog or not, you know, on
the dance floor, like that's the star.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
So you have to show you have to show some restraint,
you know what. That's the song. Dan, I saw the
Wedding Singer. That's not accurate, so I I know Adam
Sandler was taking over and he was putting on a show.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Love It's tried to sophisticated, Mama. It's my favorite scene
in The Widen Singer, a movie I have seen. I
think I think Carrie needs to just play it straight.
I don't think you can break down. I think you
have to get through it. I think you have to
practice and just and if people say that maybe it
wasn't emotional enough, that's what the rest of the memorial
(35:06):
is for. I think you got to power through and
make sure that you get through it.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I kind of I have a couple of questions here.
So you know the song or you need to choose
the song.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
No, the song is a song that she actually taught
me how to play. Wow, it's very very emotional.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Okay, so but you know the song cold?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I know the song?
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah, okay, you know that's a good thing. Yes, you're
not doing a song you're not unfamiliar with or whatnot. Yes,
I will say this, and this isn't going to mitigate
your emotions here, but yeah, I'm you know, my mother
passed away, and obviously just speaking at the memorial was
impossible for me, and I'm a pretty good public speaker.
(35:46):
I had somebody, I had the pastor read the words
because I knew I couldn't get through it.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I could never ever think about singing something that is
already already something that most people can't do public at
Adam memorial like that.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
I first of all, I give you high praise for
doing it, good luck. But that that's that's an amazing
thing to think about. And I totally understand your worries here.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Thank you. I think you gotta just power through it.
I I think that that is.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That's what you have to do, because that's what the
song is there for right, it's therefore to honor your friend.
And as much as you are tore up about this,
it obviously has meeting and it's about the song. I
think you gotta I think you got a prep. I
think you got to power through. I think you got
to get the cries out before you do it on Sunday.
(36:41):
But I think you got to power through. I want
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I think Carrie that if you break down, that that
will be even more endearing. And I know that's that's
a separate take. But if you are overcome and it's
taking you longer to actually get through it, that you're
going to have people afterwards coming to you and just
hugging you and even celebrating you even more for you
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putting yourself out there and doing that.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I agree with both. I agree with both. Thanks. It's
one of those things that that's what we talked about
before off the air. It's just I am a moment guy.
I love the emotion. I love being in that presence
with others that feel that presence as well, and so
it's it doesn't feel like you're alone doing that anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But I do want to get through it too. Got
to go through the other part of it. You don't
want to mess it up, Like I don't think you're
going to mess it up. Yeah, but I mean I
think you got to get through it. Sam, did you
want to are you? Is there like a live piano.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Or piano but I'm doing My buddy is just going
to play the guitar for me. The guitar.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Okay, Yeah, I understand the emotion of all of it.
But you also you wouldn't want to sing poorly. You
wouldn't want to miss a note, right, You wouldn't want
to do any of that. And again, if the if,
the don't if if you if you end up breaking down,
which is completely understandable. You never know where things can go.
I think you got a power through for the song
(38:09):
for your friend. That's my advice. Gotcha, We'll find out
the next time we get together. Carry and I team
up every Sunday, just not the next two because I'm
on vacation.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Good luck Carry Road, so that Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Dan is bye bye, out of sight, out of mind,
all right, good luck with that, Carrie. We're going to
continue hanging out here on Fox Sports Radio in for
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Speaker 4 (01:20):
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But Carrie and I are with you for the next
two hours. Lebron James is going to be with the Lakers,
I think for the next two years. But again it's
all up to him. As the news of the day
is Lebron James. No surprise that he's back with the Lakers,
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zero surprise whatsoever, and really not much of a surprise
in terms of his contract except a few other things.
And these things, no matter how minute they are, Carrie Roads,
when it comes to Lebron James, always end up being
a bigger thing. And it's a bigger thing considering the
news that we had yesterday when the Lakers introduced Bronni
(02:06):
James as part of their draft class of course, drafted
in the second round and the draft just a week ago.
But the conversation with the Lakers never stops. And maybe
we're making a mountain out of a mole hill. But
let's let's start with that Lebron James contract. It's a
two year deal near a max one hundred and four
(02:26):
million dollars over the two years, but the second year
is a player option, right. It also includes a no
trade clause, so the Lakers cannot trade Lebron James. Just
off the top of your head, do you know how
many players in the NBA have a no trade clause?
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I do?
Speaker 4 (02:42):
I do know what information? It's only two and the
other is Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
So that tells you a little something. Okay, first of all,
whoever did Bradley Beal's contract is og?
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Comes amazing, Like, I mean, that person is the the supreme,
the numero uno, the Godfather. But it's also the fact
of why, like is is there is there a reality?
Is there a real world where the Lakers would ever
trade Lebron James? No, no, no, and so like like
(03:16):
just the fact. But again it's always getting more, like
wanting more where it just never ends with the Lakers.
It's the drafting of his of his son, It's it's
getting his contract, it's hiring of JJ Reddick, it's more
and more and more and more, and I just don't
know when it ends for the Lakers. And and that's
(03:38):
that's like my takeaways. I look at this is now
and and by the way, for the next how many
years it's going to be, whether it be the next
three years or four years where Brony's in LA Are
we going to have to deal with every off season
of Lebron James deciding on whether he wants to retire
or not like that is I think that the point
(04:00):
that we are at. And to me, it's just another
layer of the Lakers always giving into Lebron James.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, we talk about acquiescing to somebody. I mean, this
is the ultimate case of that. Right, You're gonna be
held hostage for as long as Lebron wants to hold
you hostage. And so to be in that sweepstakes with
the Lebron at this point in his career, is it
worth it? Right? Are they gonna win this year coming
(04:28):
up or the next two years? Probably not. So you're
investing in Lebron being the main attraction that's gonna always
keep the arena field. But it's the Lakers. The arena's
probably gonna be filled anyway. So what do you stand
to gain with this? Is it just association with the
Lebron James brand, which is bigger than life. It's bigger
(04:50):
than anything we've ever seen in that sport, right. I mean,
he has so much pool, so much gravitas, and I
think it starts and ends with brand because the brand
of play that he has on the court isn't with
him being a number number one option or number two option,
which we've seen the last couple of years, isn't enough
for them to win. So where does it stop? I
(05:11):
don't know. But the version that we're getting right now
with him and him holding the biggest brand hostage is
pretty it's pretty it's pretty insane. You use the word
hostage a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So we're going to play back a little bit of
Brownie James from yesterday because I know that there's some
stuff that that stood out with that.
Speaker 4 (05:30):
I just I just at.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
One point, if you're you're rich, Paul and Lebron do
you say, like, maybe we should give them one, maybe
we should give him a break, maybe keeping them under
the second apron and taking a million dollar less. Is
there their way of of it going back and forth? Sure,
but it sure seems like it's been, you know, a
(05:53):
one sided sort of deal. And the Lakers have been
somewhat criticized this offseason for their inn to bring in
other players that we thought maybe could have been candidates.
Obviously Klay Thompson the biggest name that didn't work out.
He chose to go to the Dallas Mavericks, which I
think a lot of feel is an indictment on the
Lakers considering his you know, connections there. But nothing has
(06:16):
necessarily gone right for the Lakers, and that's a constant
message over these last couple of days. And the only
things that seem to actually be getting done are all Lebron,
James and Rich Paul connected.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
And it's all we talked about. It's Sunday, it's all calculated.
The leak, it's that comes out, when it comes out,
is always in Lebron's favor, even the contract right he's
willing to accept under the max. If we get this,
it's always a caveat, But the caveat is always something
that has to do with Lebron or his team, and
(06:50):
so we see that that's number one. So everything about
that's always calculated. But then think about any free agent
that has joined them or joined Lebron on the stretch
of his career. They stand to gain no praise, but
there's but they stand the game the blame. And so
why would any any guy that has a chance to
(07:11):
go play with Lebron that's had a name or been
an All Star or a big or thought of as
a big time player in this league want to go
be subjected to that, especially after saying what's Ruthblick?
Speaker 3 (07:20):
You know, you know what's interesting because I know your
time in the NFL, there have been some some veterans
that have come aboard and maybe had different rules than
other people. I think that Lebron's career has gone off,
has gone on for so long that he has now
outlasted pretty much most of his peers in the NBA.
(07:41):
And so if you go back a decade ago, and
it's crazy to think that a decade ago was twenty
fourteen at the end of his heat run, but it's
been ten years and even more than that, Lebron James
had guys that would be willing to come and play
for him, Yes, and there were certain players, and they
(08:01):
would kind of issue some of the younger people. Some
of the younger players that maybe they could bring along
didn't necessarily develop many many players, and instead would rather
take veterans that were Lebron's peers, or even guys that
were older than him. And this is the problem. When
you go to a ninety eight year old's funeral, none
of their friends are there because they're all gone. And
(08:24):
so Lebron now, in terms of wanting to bring people in,
there's nobody left in the league that would even want
to do what the Lebron old thing would do because
they're not connected to Lebron. He's not their age. And
the other thing is is maybe just maybe some of
them had heard stories about other people being passed along
or pushed to the side or moved on, and so
(08:46):
now that doesn't seem appealing to them. And so it's
not to be careful what you wish for. But what
worked ten years ago is now turning around and biting
you in the butt. And I feel that that is
part of what's happening with the Lakers and Lebron James
and now he's getting everything that he wants. But that's
not the NBA of ten years ago, and there are
people that don't want to play that way.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
Yeah, nobody wants to have one guy be the beneficiary
of all the things. We talk about. We can take
it in switch sports, right, we can go to Caitlin Clark.
We've talked about that a lot, but he's been the
beneficiary of a lot of the story is surrounding the
blossoming sport of the WNBA, right, And so there's just
(09:26):
a normal feeling of like, Okay, enough enough, And I
think that's kind of what's happening here. How much pull
did Farv have when he came a lot and.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
That's someone with yeah, zero equity into the Jets, and
Lebron's got a little with the Lakers, but still like
even though he's been there a while now, I don't
know if it rises to the level of it, but
it is you are catering to your star. Like are
there any parallels with the Jets to what Lebron and
the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Sure, but I don't think Yes, there was power surrounding
what Brett Favre could do and and maybe we couldn't
do as a team prior. Right, Like there were some changes,
there were some things that he had his own locker
room with the coaches, right, he had the same dress
code didn't apply to him that applied to us at
certain points. But even in that small amount of time,
(10:19):
us as players, we recognized that and we spoke up
about that after a certain points. So do the players
that come their field. They had the cache to speak
up on some of these things that Lebron is doing.
And it's obviously the answers no when you see that.
But for us, we spoke up about that. And that's
why that that union didn't last long. So didn't things
didn't change or like they did change.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
In that time.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Yeah, like everybody now that Brett Favre doesn't have to
wear a suit to the road game, so everybody's not
wearing suits to the road like that far was actually
wearing the suit.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's that the rules relaxed for everybody else exactly so
he could wear his wranglers what he's carried on. I'm
dan Byer Kerrie used the word hostage. This was Bronnie
James talking about I guess his future when he was
introduced yesterday as the Lakers second round pick here in LA.
Speaker 6 (11:12):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen it,
stuff media and stuff on it in the internet and
stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity, But
you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this for
my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different, but
it's it's it's more amplified, for sure. But I can
get through it.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
I don't think I would just like when I get there.
I don't think it would be like to be like
me and my dad, Like how would I would?
Speaker 4 (11:41):
You know, I would be happy about getting.
Speaker 7 (11:42):
To the league instead of me thinking about playing with
my dad. But that's like not my mindset or not
at all. I'm just trying to put in the work
and see where it takes me pay.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So there's a little double dose of Bronnie James for you. Yeah, yeah,
riding the company line. Is that what you that's what
you're hearing.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Yeah, it's one of those things. It feels to me
like he's been kept captive in this room for a
couple of months, getting prepped on what to say what
not to say, and then they say, show up to
this place at this time, and you're going to speak,
you know, in a way that's not going to draw
attention to anything other than you know what you're going
(12:21):
to put on the court. And it seemed like there
was no emotion, there was no sense of him being himself,
and so it seems like it's very much calculated, which
is everything that represents Lebron and so that's there's no
separation there.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
There's there's no way to get to know him, and
and that's the thing of usually with rookies, whether it
be in your sport, the NFL or in the NBA.
I even felt bad for Dalton Connect and I said this,
I said this yesterday that Dalton Connect is a guy
whose story is magnificent. Of a guy who started out
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in a junior college, then went to D two and
transfer to the SEC, which player of the year, and
then gets drafted by the Lakers. That's amazing. Yeah, that
doesn't even give a second thought. And I also thought
that Bronnie's wording. And I don't want to sit here
and criticize Bronni because I don't think it's Bronnie's choice
exactly in all of this, but there are a bunch
of different ways to go. And what it is is
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it sounds like it's a presidential debate, or at least
Bronnie is coherent, but he's saying the things that are
sticking to the topic and sticking to the script prepped. Yes, yes, yes,
that this is the point and if they talk about this,
go back to this sort of thing.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
Yeah, And that's what it feels like. I mean, it
legitimately feels like if the way that it's going right
now and the way that he's approaching this, and I'm
sure he's he has to handle it a little bit delicately,
but we're not going to know who he is, and
this is a chance for him to actually, as as
he's becoming a man, to to you know, distance himself
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from that brand and be his own person. And so
I just don't know if planned with his dad, he's
gonna have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
Well, there's gonna be a time ris dad's not in
the league and he's always gonna have his name, And honestly,
it's we don't know if Bronni will be in the
league when his dad is out of the league. And
so like to the point of here's and maybe that
goes back to the point of the original contract. I
am not surprised in the least that Lebron is going
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for a year to year contract. The cynic in me
is like, of course, Lebron wants to make it about
himself as this goes on. But there's also a part
of me to that point that thinks, like, well, as
long as I'm here, they're not gonna get rid of Bronni,
and I'm gonna take care of Bronni in that way,
and this is how we're gonna go, because this isn't
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your team, this is my team, and this is how
I want things to run. And that is crazy to
think of one of the most storied franchises in the
NBA that he has taken over that franchise and maybe
now is holding them hostage, not only now with his contract,
but Bronni's contract, and and what ends up happening to Bronnie.
And at some point Bronni's got to grow himself. Yes,
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and it would probably behoove him that his dad wasn't
still in the NBA.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Yeah, but what you just said is very much a
real thing. If his Dad's not in the NBA. Will
he be in the NBA after that time? So he
has in theory two years or a year here to
really show what he can do. And again we talk
about Bron having that he can he can opt out
in that second year. Maybe Lebron ends up going to
another team and he comes there there as well. But
(15:38):
like it's always that kind of At this moment, almost
seems like a package deal. He's carry Rhoads.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
They all pro I'm Dan Byer in for Cavino and
Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (15:47):
Crew is hanging out. We're gonna have some fun.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Carrie's got something big that's happening this weekend and and
it's it truly is and it's a it's gonna be
a special, special deal. However, we may need to help
him so things don't get out of hand. Okay, correct,
that's coming up in about twenty minutes or so. Hit
him up at Carry twenty five roads. You can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
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Speaker 3 (16:21):
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the guys who are in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
A happy early fourth to you.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
If you are traveling, please be safe out there, and
if you aren't traveling still please be saved with your fireworks.
Oh Man ust in Southern California. Have to worry about
the wildfires that could come with it as well. But
it's hot everywhere, so I'm sure that it's gonna be
in most everywhere. Could be an issue. Just be safe
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and enjoy the extended, extended weekend. I don't know they're
gonna have a going away party for Klay Thompson, but
if they are, I think a lot of people are
going to be attending. He saw Steph Curry's tribute to
Clay's he left the sign to deal with the Dallas Mavericks. Now,
Draymond Green has had his opportunity to weigh in on
Clay's departure, speaking on his podcast with the volume Here's
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the Warriors Forward about saying bye bye to Clay Thompson.
Speaker 8 (17:15):
When Clay told me I was just able to listen,
you know, and It wasn't like a yo, we could
finish like this so like you should rethink this. It
was just like wow, like all right, like congrass bro,
like I'm happy for you. That's dope, and like I
didn't even attempt to like want to talk him out
of leaving or like, yo, you should stay because like
all the reasons that you would say, like in things
(17:37):
that you could, yeah, I could make words sound good,
but like those are known because to see him struggle
the way he did last year, I'd hope the care
that you'd have for that person would go far beyond
what you may feel as best for you or what
you want to see.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
So some heavy words from Draymond Green. I have a
lot of takeaways from it. But you're the former athlee.
You've seen players come and go. When you hear Draymond
talk about Clay and talking about his future, how do
you respond to those comments.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's it sounds like a pretty mature response to a
situation that, like you said, may not benefit you.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
A lot of times when you're on a team or
you're in a relationship or whatever, it is, like you
can see you can't see the big picture of how
it's going to affect someone else because it's affecting you
directly in that in that scenario, So you're moving a
big figure in their Big three. They've had a lot
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of success, They've had some ups and downs, but way
more success. So a lot of times you want to
live off that success and not be realistic about the
things that are also going on as well. And I
think as you're getting mature, you're able to with you know,
celebrate the wins, but also understand that there is some
truth to the part that I'm not happy in this
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to wist anymore. And so I think that's a beautiful
thing to see Draymond actually have that awareness, because a
lot of people wouldn't have that awareness, and Draymond hasn't
had that awareness a lot of time. To see that,
it's pretty cool to see a couple of things popped
into my mind. Number One, and it's not exact parallels,
but it did make me think of Scottie Pippen's time
with the Bulls and in his time, and not that
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they're not that Clay wanted to be the number one
guy or wanted it to be his team, but it's
that that there are different experiences for each player, and
we think that, oh the bulls, Jordan Pippen and Rodman,
you know, Jordan Pippen and Grant. However, you want to
look at it, that their experiences are similar, that they're
all tied into it, and heck.
Speaker 3 (19:44):
He's splashed brothers with Steph Curry. So there's even this
two to zero and this, you know, this tandem there.
But their experiences aren't the same. The experiences of Clay
going through his injuries over the last couple of years
are not the same. The season that Clay had this
past year not the same of what Steph is has
gone through. And there is a difference in being number
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one as opposed to number two and number three. And
Steph Curry is that guy in Golden State and that
just like Jordan was that guy in Chicago. And even
when he left for a while, Scotty had a difficult
time that they weren't putting him number one. So then
Jordan comes back and they win three more titles, and
then Scotty goes and plays elsewhere in Portland.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
And yeah, and you know, and ended up Houston as well. Yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
That's where I kind of draw the Scottie Pippen comparison,
not that Clay wanted to be number one, but it's
a different experience, like, yeah, you're on the same team,
Yeah you're winning the same titles. Yeah you have the
same championship rings, but your experience as a teammate just
completely different.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
That's a great point. The Scotty Pippen thing was interesting
because when Jordan did leave to play baseball for a
year and a half, Pippin really proved his worth. We
actually got to see him in that number one, that
lead position. And even then there was some scenarios where
like ku coach would get a play call for him
as the guide and they refused to Yes, there were
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things like that that happened, but like you said, that
the experience from Pippen and Jordan would be totally different
explaining in that time period, right, So even like seeing
the Last Dance, it was literally from Jordan's perspective, in
his eyes, telling that story, and you could see that,
you know, Pippen and Horace Grant and all those guys
were a little bit dejected about the way that they
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were conveyed in that in that in that in the
in that documentary. So that's a great, great comparison, and
Pippen went on to have success other places. I in Portland,
they were a minute away from being in the finals,
you know, so he has some experience and this can
kind of be Clay's chance to help, you know, Dallas
get over over to Hump as well and win another championship.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
And it's south that Jordan and Pippen were never BFFs,
where it feels like Steph and Clay were. But I
think it also tells you that when you're in the
same situation of just even of your friends or someone
else like the same, their experiences are not the same
as yours. And that's what my you know, my takeaway
from that is there was so much conversation about Clay
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leaving the Warriors, and we've talked about the end of
the era with the Warriors, but I feel that even
the conversation over the last twenty four to thirty six
hours has been Clay saying thanks but no thanks to
the Lakers. And we see Steph post all these pictures
of Clay on Instagram and we know that they signed
the Warriors side Kyle Anderson, you know, so they're starting
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to have life without Clay figuring out their own way
of moving on. But it is interesting to hear Draymond
Green say what he had to say and said it
in a very emotional way, and it can teach you
a lot about life as well.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, just yeah, the maturation man. The we start having kids,
and I understand this thing isn't all about you. It's
about you know, really being of service to others. Then
you want to be the to your brothers. Well. Jason
Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 9 (23:03):
Isn't it amazing? Guys, carry you can speak to this
much better than Dan and I can. When you're in
a room full of people making a whole lot more
money than most of society and you hear about We've
been reading all day with these reports that come out
of how miserable Klay Thompson was on the team. He
had friends, yes, but he was miserable in the way
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he thought he was being regarded by the ownership, even
though he's making I don't know what, thirty million bucks
a year, whatever he was making. And it just goes
to show you that in every walk of life, there
are listeners right now, a good portion of them probably
who are suffering from some kind of misery at their job. Yes,
and it's not always tied or often it isn't tied
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to how much you're compensated necessarily, it's just the dynamics
of the workplace and human beings and how you're treated
or thought to be treated. That's what's fascinating about.
Speaker 3 (24:00):
And now I was just gonna say that's the harshest
part of reality for someone who's been at a place,
you know, and then all of a sudden you're like, hey,
you know, now they're treating me like this or this
is how they think of me.
Speaker 4 (24:12):
So and it's just it's again, it's such it's a
team sport, but it's still you're you're handling real human beings,
individuals that have emotions and have eyes, so they're seeing
how others are being rewarded or not rewarded. Or this
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young and up and comer just got paid and he's
right behind me. But you know, Draymond Green's had issues,
but they're still taking care of him and paying him.
So I've had an injury here and there, and you know,
I've done my service way probably more than you thought
I would, and you can't see that or take care
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of that, and so as a human. There's just a
level of betrayal. I don't know if that's the the
perfect word for but that's probably what he feels for it.
And so that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I think there's there's also the levels of it, like
if you're if you know you're Klay Thompson, and not
only did you bring four titles to Golden State, there
was a point where you missed significant time because of
your injuries, and you fought back and you worked and
you did all of this to get back to win
that fourth NBA title, and you look at all the
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equity that you have. And sometimes it's even just the
littlest of things where that he felt that he was
owed that by the organizations and they aren't doing it,
and and I have there's I give Klay Thompson absolute
reason to be like, all right, this is for me.
And it really stinks that he felt that way. And
(25:49):
I don't know if that was the Warriors. If it
was the Warriors purposely doing it, shame on them, you know,
like in doing that because of what this guy gave
to your organization, or is it just a victor of circumstance?
They did they not recognize the production in balance of
who he is and what he is. That's what it
feels like, you know, to me. And and I think
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that the team is always going to be looked at
as the bad guy when the player ends up leaving.
But that doesn't mean that Clay's feelings aren't validated, and
that maybe the Warriors could have tried to have gone
the extra mile or to have done something to make
things at least remotely better instead of making the final
year of his contract there and being miserable. And I
think a theme that that Jason has pointed out to
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put words in is Clay Thompson finally felt wanted for
the first time in a while, and that was it
was a way to you know. And now he goes
to Dallas and as you know, this new life and
this new feeling and being reinvigorated.
Speaker 4 (26:46):
And that's the thing we can also, I think both
sides can have a valid point, and both both sides
can be accurate in what they're doing and how they're
attacking it. But that leaves the story to the individual again, right,
And so if if the feeling that you feel is
an accurate feeling towards for inside of you and what
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you feel. Then you go out and you do what
you did with Clay. Like Clay went to another team,
he has a chance to prove himself again and I'm
sure he'll be motivated, and you know, we will probably
probably see the best version of Clay and that's a
good thing. And the gold and the Wars will be fine.
They'll pivot and try to put a competitive team out
there and you know, not seem to overpay in their minds,
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and both teams will live on after that.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
You know, Clay's in that unique spot where Curry's the
superstar and Greens like the guy that you love to hate,
you know, but like the welcoming, like Steph's always going
to be welcome with open arms with Golden State. But
whenever Clay does return like that, ovation is going to
be off the charts, Yes, And then when he's retired,
it's going to be off the charts as well, because
he carved out his own and they look at his
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trials and tribulations and what he went through.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
It really sucks.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
And I think that as Steph Curry knows it, and
Draymond Green knows that, like Steve curR knows it. Yeah,
you know, and and and you also you also had
a change in front office. You know, Bob Myers isn't there.
Mike Dunleavy Jr. Now taking over, So there are other
decisions that maybe you thought were good. And maybe Steve
Kurrs like this is all that I can, you know,
help with, and Joe lacub And Mike Dunlevy Junr. Now
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have their own vision for how it's going to go.
I mean, there's just a lot that plays in But
by the way, all of Klay Thompson's feelings one hundred
percent valid.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Yes they are.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
What in the world is a player enhancement coach.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
The he's the guy who enhances players. Yeah, that would
be the uh, yes, that definition. You know what I
think this is. I think this is a mending offenses.
Kemba never should have left Charlotte, knowing what we now
know after he left as a free agent, and.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Maybe this is a way to welcome him back. He
truly is.
Speaker 3 (28:49):
I mean, there hasn't been a lot of great Charlotte
Hornet's history, at least of this most recent crew, and
Kemba Walker is part of that history. So maybe this
is just a way of them making up a job
and bringing Kemba Walker back within the organization.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Now, let's find a way to get Kimbo on the payroll, right,
what about player enhancement coach? That sounds pretty good.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
He's the perfect example of maybe just the grass isn't
necessarily greener. Both he and the Hornets were not better
off without each other. They may not have went out
to win an NBA title, but things would have been
better if you would have stuck around.
Speaker 4 (29:24):
They would have not won a title ever. No, no,
but when he was there and he was dynamic, yes, so.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
And the places that he went didn't work out as
much as he would have hoped. Player enhancement coach, Yeah,
I'm going to find out what that means instead of
ped Yeah, let's not get close to that.
Speaker 4 (29:44):
That can be a step up man, Brian.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah, Brian Finley has got a big occasion coming up
in a little over a week.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
Marrin.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Yes, she still has time to say no.
Speaker 4 (29:56):
She has a little time.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
She has time to say no. Yeah, So I'm not
exactly sure how to go about that. One of the
biggest things, guys, is trying to get the number down
on who's actually gonna show up because people will say
in your face.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm definitely gonna be there at the wedding, and then
you hear from somebody else, ah, yeah, we can't make it.
We couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. And then
you know, like we're we have to pay for as
many people, so we're supposed to come as whoever that
is that number. So that's always the fun part.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
I'll tell you what, Brian, I want you to mull
on this and you're gonna get us an answer at
the end of the break. Would you want Carrie Rhoades
to sing at your wedding? Okay, thank you, he's already
got that.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
Let me I'll tell you why when we get back.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Okay, Yeah, he's Brian Fanlan, it's Carrie Roads, I'm Dan Byer.
Jason Stewart's here, Iowa Sam is here as well. Don't worry, Sam,
We've got some Caitlyn Clark talk coming up here on
Cavino and Rich. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the sharpshooter
from Indiana coming up a bit later on in the program.
Carrie's got a bit of a dilemma that we're going
to try to work through and hopefully we can help
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him find his pitch. He's carry Roads. Finda met Carrie
twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byer
on Fox. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
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Speaker 3 (31:23):
This is going to be Friendly? What a week from
Saturday on the dance floor? Yes, I can see you
right now. One shoon stamp there it is? Can you
do on Rich? Here at Fox Sports Radio. He's carry Roads,
I'm Dan Byer, Brian Fenley's hanging out. Jason Stewart is here,
so is Iowa Sam. So Friendly's getting married. Would you
have Carrie Rhoads sing at your wedding?
Speaker 1 (31:41):
I absolutely would have Carrie Roads sing at the wedding.
I would even go as far as sing officiate the
wedding if we have who we had, so I go
that far.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
I also would love to get your guys takes. So
I'm doing the you know how they have certain songs
for different dances.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Yes, right.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
First of all, my shooting to be wife and I.
We don't have the dance down. We're totally messing it
up here already. We've been practicing so that's a great scene.
But we've got this. We're gonna do a song a
Daddy Dog to dance, so I am this is literally
gonna have it. I'm gonna take my Corgie on the
dance floor and hold her. And there was that song
by a little baby called That's My Dog, you know,
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So we're gonna play that while I'm like kind of
moving side to side with my dog.
Speaker 4 (32:26):
Amazing, No, that is what is she? What's Kelly gonna do?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I know?
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So he's just gonna standard. She's gonna join. Nana is
gonna be like what's going on? Like does she have
a dog?
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, she might be jealous, but no, we're gonna start out.
We have this song that we're gonna dance to. It's
Louis Armstrong. What a wonderful world, of course. But we've
been practicing it even yesterday and we're still not getting
the timing down. We've got a week or so we're
gonna probably mess this up.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
But be what order of the events is the dog
and and and the dance and that stuff the dog do,
just trying to figure that out. Okay, the dog, the.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Dog will be a flower girl in the wedding. And
now you can see what kind of a nerd I am.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
To each their own, Brian Fellly, But what is most
important is that you would let Carrie Road sing at
your your wedding. I really I'm flattered, And it's what's
the most important for this conversation. Yes, Carrie has a
special memorial for a close friend of his coming up
on Sunday that he's got to sing at.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (33:33):
The debate is how do you do it?
Speaker 9 (33:36):
Like?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
How do you do that? How do you do it?
Do you come prepared like, do you study for that?
Do you perform it? Do you get ready to go?
Or do you show up in the moment and be
fully present? Because that's my that's usually how I am.
But I know it's going to be really emotional. So
from you guys, what would what would you guys recommend?
Speaker 3 (33:56):
So they're so prepared, it's such an interesting balance because
you obviously going to be emotional. The last thing that
you want to do though is sound cold, right exactly.
And the other thing that you don't want to do
is try to make it the Carrie road show and
carry out notes which I would say, like if you
were at Brian's wedding, number one, can't dress better than
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the groom, so you're not gonna do that. And then
when you sing, you have to remember that it's not
about you on stage. It's about the couple, whether if
they're dancing with a dog or not, you know, on
the dance floor, like that's the star.
Speaker 4 (34:30):
So you have to show you have to show some restraint,
you know what. That's the song. Dan, I saw the
Wedding Singer. That's not accurate, so I I know Adam
Sandler was taking over and he was putting on a show.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Love It's tried to sophisticated, Mama. It's my favorite scene
in The Widen Singer, a movie I have seen. I
think I think Carrie needs to just play it straight.
I don't think you can break down. I think you
have to get through it. I think you have to
practice and just and if people say that maybe it
wasn't emotional enough, that's what the rest of the memorial
(35:06):
is for. I think you got to power through and
make sure that you get through it.
Speaker 9 (35:09):
I kind of I have a couple of questions here.
So you know the song or you need to choose
the song.
Speaker 4 (35:16):
No, the song is a song that she actually taught
me how to play. Wow, it's very very emotional.
Speaker 9 (35:21):
Okay, so but you know the song cold?
Speaker 4 (35:24):
I know the song?
Speaker 9 (35:25):
Yeah, okay, you know that's a good thing. Yes, you're
not doing a song you're not unfamiliar with or whatnot. Yes,
I will say this, and this isn't going to mitigate
your emotions here, but yeah, I'm you know, my mother
passed away, and obviously just speaking at the memorial was
impossible for me, and I'm a pretty good public speaker.
(35:46):
I had somebody, I had the pastor read the words
because I knew I couldn't get through it.
Speaker 4 (35:51):
Wow.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I could never ever think about singing something that is
already already something that most people can't do public at
Adam memorial like that.
Speaker 5 (36:03):
That.
Speaker 9 (36:03):
I first of all, I give you high praise for
doing it, good luck. But that that's that's an amazing
thing to think about. And I totally understand your worries here.
Speaker 4 (36:12):
Thank you. I think you gotta just power through it.
I I think that that is.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
That's what you have to do, because that's what the
song is there for right, it's therefore to honor your friend.
And as much as you are tore up about this,
it obviously has meeting and it's about the song. I
think you gotta I think you got a prep. I
think you got to power through. I think you got
to get the cries out before you do it on Sunday.
(36:41):
But I think you got to power through. I want
to hear it.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
I think Carrie that if you break down, that that
will be even more endearing. And I know that's that's
a separate take. But if you are overcome and it's
taking you longer to actually get through it, that you're
going to have people afterwards coming to you and just
hugging you and even celebrating you even more for you
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putting yourself out there and doing that.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
I agree with both. I agree with both. Thanks. It's
one of those things that that's what we talked about
before off the air. It's just I am a moment guy.
I love the emotion. I love being in that presence
with others that feel that presence as well, and so
it's it doesn't feel like you're alone doing that anyway.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
But I do want to get through it too. Got
to go through the other part of it. You don't
want to mess it up, Like I don't think you're
going to mess it up. Yeah, but I mean I
think you got to get through it. Sam, did you
want to are you? Is there like a live piano.
Speaker 4 (37:42):
Or piano but I'm doing My buddy is just going
to play the guitar for me. The guitar.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Okay, Yeah, I understand the emotion of all of it.
But you also you wouldn't want to sing poorly. You
wouldn't want to miss a note, right, You wouldn't want
to do any of that. And again, if the if,
the don't if if you if you end up breaking down,
which is completely understandable. You never know where things can go.
I think you got a power through for the song
(38:09):
for your friend. That's my advice. Gotcha, We'll find out
the next time we get together. Carry and I team
up every Sunday, just not the next two because I'm
on vacation.
Speaker 4 (38:17):
Good luck Carry Road, so that Dan.
Speaker 3 (38:23):
Dan is bye bye, out of sight, out of mind,
all right, good luck with that, Carrie. We're going to
continue hanging out here on Fox Sports Radio in for
Cavino and Rich Chario
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Atani says thanks but no thanks to the home run
derby that's next.
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