July 3, 2024 • 50 mins
Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes in for C & R as they discuss the moves the Lakers have made this off-season in their attempts to placate Lebron James.
Dan and Kerry try to fix the Homerun Derby on the air.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:22):
It's a hum day, but it also kind of feels
like a Friday, with the Fourth of July coming up tomorrow.
Welcome in. We're sitting in for Cavino and Rich. Use
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Speaker 3 (00:56):
Carrie and I get together noon eastern nine Pacific here
on Fox Sports Radio every Sunday. And it's great, yes,
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Speaker 3 (01:21):
They're in for Dan Patrick this week? Nice will be
tomorrow as well, doing the Dan Slam as they called it.
So if you missed out on them, you can always
check out the podcast and they'll be in for Dan tomorrow.
But Carrie and I are with you for the next
two hours. Lebron James is going to be with the Lakers,
I think for the next two years. But again it's
all up to him. As the news of the day
(01:43):
is Lebron James. No surprise that he's back with the Lakers,
zero surprise whatsoever, and really not much of a surprise
in terms of his contract except a few other things.
And these things, no matter how minute they are, Carrie,
when it comes to Lebron James, always end up being
a bigger thing. And it's a bigger thing considering the
(02:05):
news that we had yesterday when the Lakers introduced Bronni
James as part of their draft class, of course, drafted
in the second round and the draft just a week ago.
But the conversation with the Lakers never stops. And maybe
we're making a mountain out of a mole hill. But
let's let's start with that Lebron James contract. It's a
two year deal near a max one hundred and four
(02:29):
million dollars over the two years, but the second year
is a player option. It also includes a no trade clause,
so the Lakers cannot trade Lebron James. Just off the
top of your head, do you know how many players
in the NBA have a no trade clause?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I do? I do know that information. It's only two
and the other is Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So that tells you a little something. Okay, first of all,
whoever did Bradley Beal's contract is the og?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Comes amazing, Like, I mean, that person is the the supreme,
the numero uno, He's the godfather. But it's also the
fact of why, like, is there is there a reality?
Is there a real world where the Lakers would ever
trade Lebron James? No, no, no, and so like like
(03:19):
just the fact. But again it's always getting more, like
wanting more, where it just never ends with the Lakers.
It's the drafting of his of his son, It's it's
getting his contract, it's hiring of JJ Reddick, It's more
and more and more and more, and I just don't
know when it ends for the Lakers. And and that's
(03:41):
that's like my takeaways. I look at this is now
and and by the way, for the next how many
years it's gonna be, whether it be the next three
years or four years where Brony's in La Are we
going to have to deal with every off season of
Lebron James deciding on whether he wants to retire or
not like that is I think that is the point
(04:03):
that we are at. And to me, it's just another
layer of the Lakers always giving into Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, we talk about acquiescing to somebody. I mean, this
is the ultimate case of that. Right, You're gonna be
held hostage for as long as Lebron wants to hold
you hostage. And so to be in that sweepstakes with
the Lebron at this point in his career, is it
worth it? Right? Are they gonna win this year coming
(04:30):
up or the next two years, probably not. So you're
investing in Lebron being the main attraction that's gonna always
keep the arena field. But it's the Lakers. The arena's
probably gonna be filled anyway. So what do you stand
to gain with this? Is it just association with the
Lebron James brand, which is bigger than life. It's bigger
(04:53):
than anything we've ever seen in that sport, right, I mean,
he has so much pool, so much gravitas, and I
think I think it starts and ends with the brand
because the brand of play that he has on the
court isn't with him being a number one option or
number two option, which we've seen the last couple of years,
isn't enough for them to win. So where does it stop?
(05:14):
I don't know. But the version that we're getting right
now with him and him holding the biggest brand hostage
is pretty it's pretty it's pretty insane. You use the
word hostage a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So we're going to play back a little bit of
Bronnie James from yesterday because I know that there's some
stuff that that stood out with that. I just I
just at one point, if you're you're rich, Paul and Lebron,
do you say, like, maybe we should give him one,
maybe we should give him a break, maybe keeping them
under the second apron and taking a million dollar less.
(05:47):
Is there their way of of it going back and forth? Sure,
but it sure seems like it's been, you know, a
one sided sort of deal. And the Lakers have been
some want criticized this offseason for their inability to bring
in other players that we thought maybe could have been candidates.
Obviously Klay Thompson the biggest name that didn't work out.
(06:10):
He chose to go to the Dallas Mavericks, which I
think a lot of feel is an indictment on the
Lakers considering his you know, connections there. But nothing has
necessarily gone right for the Lakers. And that's a constant
message over these last couple of days. And the only
things that seem to actually be getting done are all Lebron,
James and Rich Paul connected.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And it's all we talked about. It's Sunday, It's all calculated.
The leak, it's that comes out, when it comes out,
is always in Lebron's favor. Even the contract right he's
willing to accept under the max. If we get this
it's always a caveat, but the caveat is always something
that has to do with Lebron or his team, And
(06:53):
so we see that that's number one. So everything about
that's always calculated. But then think about any free age
that has joined them or joined Lebron down the stretch
of his career. They stand to gain no praise, but
there's but they stand the game the blame. And so
why would any any guy that has a chance to
(07:14):
go play with Lebron that's had a name or been
an All Star or a big or thought of as
a big time player in this league want to go
be subjected to that, especially after saying weusin ruthblike.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
R you know, you know what's interesting, because I know
your time in the NFL, there have been some some
veterans that have come aboard and maybe had different rules
than other people. I think that Lebron's career has gone off,
has gone on for so long that he has now
outlasted pretty much most of his peers in the NBA.
(07:43):
And so if you go back a decade ago, and
it's crazy to think that a decade ago was twenty
fourteen at the end of his heat run, But it's
been ten years. And even more than that, Lebron James
had guys that would be willing to come and play
for him, and there were certain players and they would
(08:04):
kind of issue some of the younger people. Some of
the younger players that maybe they could bring along didn't
necessarily develop many many players, and instead would rather take
veterans that were Lebron's peers, or even guys that were
older than him. This is the problem when you go
to a ninety eight year old's funeral, none of their
friends are there because they're all gone. And so Lebron now,
(08:28):
in terms of wanting to bring people in, there's nobody
left in the league that would even want to do
what the Lebron old thing would do because they're not
connected to Lebron. He's not their age. And the other
thing is is maybe just maybe some of them had
heard stories about other people being passed along or pushed
to the side or moved on, and so now that
(08:49):
doesn't seem appealing to them. And so it's not to
be careful what you wish for. But what worked ten
years ago is now turning around and biting you in
the butt. And I feel that that is part of
what's happening with the Lakers and Lebron James and now
he's getting everything that he wants. But that's not the
NBA of ten years ago, and there are people that
don't want to play that way.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, nobody wants to have one guy be the beneficiary
of all the things we talk about. We can take
it in switch sports, right, we can go to Caitlin Clark.
We've talked about that a lot, but he's been the
beneficiary of a lot of the stories surrounding the blossoming
sport of the WNBA, Right, And so there's just a
(09:29):
normal feeling of like, Okay, enough enough, And I think
that's kind of what's happening here.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
How much pull did Farv have when he came a
lot and that's someone with yeah, zero equity into the Jets,
and Lebron's got a little with the Lakers, but still
like even though he's been there a while now, I
don't know if it rises to the level of it,
but it is you are catering to your star. Like
are there any parallels with the Jets to what Lebron
(09:58):
and the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Sure, but I don't think Yes, there was power surrounding
what Brett Favre could do and and maybe we couldn't
do as a team prior, right, Like there were some changes,
there were some things that he had his own locker
room with the coaches, right, he had the same dress
code didn't apply to him that applied to us at
certain points. But even in that small amount of time,
(10:22):
us as players, we recognized that and we spoke up
about that after a certain points. So do the players
that come their field they have the cache to speak
up on some of these things that Lebron is doing,
and it's obviously the answer is no when you see that.
But for us, we spoke up about that. And that's
why that that union didn't last long. So didn't things
didn't change or like they did change in that time. Yeah,
(10:44):
like everybody now that Brett Favre doesn't have to wear
suits to the road game, so everybody's not wearing suits
to the road like that Farv is actually wearing the suit.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's that the rules relaxed for everybody else exactly so
he could wear his wranglers pedling. He's carrier all time.
Dan Byer Carrie used the word hostage. This was Bronnie
James talking about I guess his future when he was
introduced yesterday as the Lakers second round pick here in LA.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen it,
stuff media and stuff on it in the internet and
stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity, but
you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this for
my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different, but
it's it's it's more amplified, for sure. But I can
get through it.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I don't think I would just like when I get there.
I don't think it would be like to be like
me and my dad like I would. I would, you know,
I would be happy about getting to the league instead
of me thinking about playing with my dad. But that's
like not my mindset or not at all. I'm just
trying to put in the work and see where it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Takes me play.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So there's a little double dose of Bronnie James for you. Yeah,
riding the company line. Is that what you here? That's
what you're hearing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it's one of those things. It feels to me
like he's been kept captive in this room for for
a couple of months, getting prepped on what to say,
what not to say, and then they say, show up
to this place at this time, and you're going to speak,
you know, in a way that's not going to draw
attention to anything other than you know what you're gonna
(12:24):
put on the court. And it seemed like there was
no emotion, there was no sense of him being himself,
and so it seems like it's very much calculated, which
is everything that represents Lebron and so that's there's no
separation there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
There's there's no way to get to know him, and
and that's the thing of usually with rookies, whether it
be in your sport, the NFL or in the NBA.
I've I even felt bad for Dalton Connect And I
said this, I said this yesterday that Dalton Connect is
a guy whose story is magnificent. Of a guy who's
(13:00):
art it out in a junior college, then went to
D two and transfer to the SEC, which player of
the year, and then gets drafted by the Lakers. That's amazing. Yeah,
that doesn't even give a second thought. And I also
thought that Bronnie's wording. And I don't want to sit
here and criticize Bronni because I don't think it's Bronnie's
choice exactly in all of this, but there were a
bunch of different ways to go. And what it is
(13:21):
is it sounds like it's a presidential debate, or at
least Bronnie is coherent, but he's saying the things that
are sticking to the topic and sticking to the script prepped. Yes, yes, yes,
this is the point. And if they talk about this,
go back to this sort of thing. Yeah, And that's
what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, it legitimately feels like if the way that
it's going right now and the way that he's approaching this,
and I'm sure he has to handle it a little
bit delicately, but we're not going to know who he is,
and this is a chance for him to actually, as
as he's becoming a man, to know distance himself from
(14:03):
that brand and be his own person. And so I
just don't know if planned with his dad, he's gonna
have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, there's there's gonna be a time Ris Dad's not
in the league and he's always gonna have his name,
And honestly, it's we don't know if Bronni will be
in the league when his dad is out of the league,
you know, and so like to the point of here's
and and maybe that goes back to the point of
the original contract. I am not surprised in the least
(14:31):
that Lebron is going for a year to year contract.
The cynic in me is like, of course Lebron wants
to make it about himself as this goes on. But
there's also a part of me to that point that thinks, like, well,
as long as I'm here, they're not gonna get rid
of Bronni, and I'm gonna take care of Bronni in
that way. And this is how we're gonna go because
(14:52):
this isn't your team, this is my team, and this
is how I want things to run. And that is
crazy to think of one of the most storied French
is in the NBA that he has taken over that
franchise and maybe now is holding them hostage, not only
now with his contract but Bronni's contract And and what
ends up happening to Bronnie And at some point Broni's
(15:12):
got to grow himself, Yes, and it would probably bemove
him that his dad wasn't still in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, but what you just said, is very much a
real thing. If his dad's not in the NBA, will
he be in the NBA after that time? So he
has in theory two years or a year here to
really show what he can do. And again we talk
about Bron having that he can he can opt out
in that second year. Maybe Lebron ends up going to
another team and he comes there there as well. But
(15:40):
like it's always that kind of at this moment, almost
seems like a package deal. He's carry Rhoads.
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Speaker 2 (17:09):
To get to that.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
In about thirty minutes or so, we are in for
the guys today on a Wednesday, July, third day before
the fourth of July. I'm gonna pose a question, because
we are going to discuss over these next couple of weeks.
Over these next couple of weeks, who are you more
intrigued to watch play Caitlin Clark or Bronnie James. Okay,
(17:32):
that's that We're gonna throw that out there. Yeah, So
if you're driving along, if you're about to get you know,
away for the four day holiday making an extended weekend,
you can always chime in at Carrie twenty five Roads.
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So just put that stew on that a little bit
if you will, including the crew over there. Briddy James
is gonna play some So I'm our league ball for
the Lakers. Caitlyn Clark obviously has been a topic of
conversation for the last two months all Star voting. She's
an All Star, so is Angel Reese. But there's other
(18:10):
stuff that came with the All Star voting that we
do need to talk about. So there is where our
Caitlyn Clark discussion will be. But we start with a
different sort of festivity, and that is in less than
two weeks, it will be the Major League Baseball All
Star Break, the All Star Game. Less than two weeks
away now that you will see on Fox. And of
(18:30):
course Monday of All Star Week is the Home Run Derby,
and we found out today that show Heo Tani will
not be taking parts in the Home Run Derby and
instead health reasons the reasons why Soho Heo Tani will
not be taking part, but also in a quote that
it is not his sole responsibility to carry Major League Baseball.
(18:56):
It was something that Dylan Hernandez wrote for The Times,
and I think that there's some truth to that, and
it's the word soul responsibility, because I do think that
other players have to step up and take this event
and help keep it at one of the marquee events
(19:18):
of the summer. Like you and I are just sitting here,
and the Major League Baseball has tried to mess with
the format and they did it again this year. But
there is no doubt that when we're in the middle
of July and Home Run Derby comes on and it's
usually on ESPN, that we sit there and watch it
and take it in and enjoy the spectacle. But you
can't just have it a run of the mill thing,
because then it's going to kind of run out, maybe
(19:41):
like the slam dunk competition, so that like then poses
the question of like first of all, like who's responsibility
is it then for Major League Baseball or for the
players to keep this Home Run Derby going. The problem
with the dunk contest is not only is it players
(20:02):
that aren't superstars like Lebron that you would have loved
to have seen in the games. It's not even the
next level of players, Like there are players that aren't
even in the league that we had to put into
the dunk contest because they could actually dunk. Matt McClung
being one of those guys. Yes, major League Baseball as
a bevy of stars, and it's not that the names
(20:23):
of those players aren't recognizable. It's just that there are
very very few names that will grab attention no matter what.
Otani is one of those names. Judge is another one
of those names. Harper's another one of those names. Yeah,
those are the names that I feel that need to
end up taking part in the Home Run Derby if
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it's going to continue to be the spectacle that it is.
And I don't blame Otani because of his injuries, but
I do think that these superstar players do need to
take an account and to take some responsibility of carrying
what is a huge, huge deal for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, there's layers to a So you talk about the
NBA Dunk Contest, for example, it is a name a
named event, like we want the big names, we want
the big brands to take part in it. That's part
of the problem that it's going down into such a
place that it's that it's at right now. But on
top of the name recognition, as far as the Dunk
(21:21):
Contest having any more you know, gravitas as being something
that's a must must watch events, it's hard because we've
probably seen every dunk that you can do, and so
you get tired of seeing dunks that I, especially me
as a as a basketball player, I can do, Like
I want to see something that can't do No, no, no, no,
(21:44):
I'm just like from you know, just like even from
a player perspective, right, But when you get to baseball,
in the home run derby, there's nothing like hearing the
back connect with the ball and they're going as far
as humanly possible, Like I can't do that, Like the
normal person at home can't do that. And so just
seeing that and witnessing that has always been a great thing.
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But we've also seen players that were really hot before
the All Star Break, hitting the ball really well and
hitting the ton and then taking part in the home
run Derby and losing that, losing their stroke and not
being able to hit the ball the same way for
a portion of time once the second part of the
season kicks off. So I'm sure a person like Otani
(22:25):
that's really aware, self aware of himself as a player
and his game, I'm sure a little bit of that
weighs in on him as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think it ends up being a cop out you
do of the second half. Yes, swing you mean tell
me that one one night after how many rounds of
BP that you've taken. You mean you haven't gone at
a spring training complex and ended up just you know, like,
(22:54):
all right, let's mash some let's just let's just get
him out of here. I think it is. It is
such an excuse for players who don't perform to blame
it on the home run derby, and I think it's
become accepted and that has now allowed players to not
participate in it. Yes, And that's the problem with me
is I would I would love.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I don't know, if there are numbers, and maybe this
is the point that I'm wrong, but you know, is
anybody out their average go up after winning it? That
would I mean, we would never hear about that, but
we would hear. Hey, guess what, Lucky participating in the
home run derby just hasn't been the same. Yeah, what
about just taking this break in the middle of the season,
you know, and being away from your team and then
(23:37):
taking a couple of days off of that. But you're
gonna blame it on the one the one night that
you hit the home run derby. And I'm not saying
that it hasn't happened to someone. It just you can't
tell me that it's happening to everyone. And that's why
nobody should do it to me. That's the problem that
I have with it.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah. No, I mean obviously we would all you know,
I think stand to gain a lot of love and
affection for that sport in the home run derby. If
we got to get a show down between oh Tani
and Judge down the stretch, those two going, you know,
head to head and you know, crushing balls out out
of the stadium, it would be a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Jason Stewart is a Dodger fan. He's been on record
of saying that he did not want sho Heyo Tani
there it is on to compete in the home run
derby basically because of his injury.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Correct? Is that is that the sole reason?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, you know, it's too bad that he pulled out
today because I really thought this was going to be
the topic that carried us through the All Star Game.
I thought he was going to go right up to
the weekend and we could talk about it on sports
talk radio all next week. But no, he did what
I thought he should do. And that's because you talk
about the cop out, and I agree with you. I
(24:46):
think that it's given the top name player is a
reason to not do it, a convenient reason not to
do it. And I also don't believe that it has
much of an impact on your production after the contest.
But I will say this. You hear about how it's
a different kind of exercise. In other words, it's much
different than batting practice. It's much different than cage work.
(25:09):
You hear about how people how they didn't realize how
over exerting it is, how they would have like soreness,
And you probably experienced this Carrie too, like soreness with
muscles that you don't typically have soreness with, like hamstring
soreness the next day, or like you know, a tweak
in the flexor or whatever. Like, they have these little
(25:30):
like over exertion kind of semi injuries coming off of it.
And I just didn't want the you know, our best player,
the daughter's best player, and the best player in the
entire league, to do something as he's over exerting himself
to injure that arm. He's been able to hit, and
he's been able to hit well all season, So obviously
the rehab and hitting don't have a whole lot to
(25:52):
do with each other. But I think that you're doing
a little bit, that little extra, and that's kind of
where the injuries happen, right when you're trying to do
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I know it's my issue. He has to overcompensating, right,
So if you're trying to hit the ball, if you're
intentionally trying to hit the ball out of the park,
there is an extra gear that you have to go with.
I mean, you can have your normal swaying, yes, but
you also want to be impressive as well. And that's
part of it. How far the balls are going too,
so it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That is my big thing. And I do want to
clear up something that I said because I got confused.
Dylan Hernandez covering the Lakers rights for the La Times,
Dave Roberts is the one who said it's just not
his responsibility alone to carry the game of baseball. That
was the quote. Dylan obviously took that quote. I just
looked at it wrong and read it wrong, but wanted
to clarify. Robert sang basically Otani does this on a
(26:40):
daily basis. He doesn't need to do it for the
home run Derby. Clarified that portion of it. The length
of the home runs is actually the thing that I
want to see. Exactly last year, in the home Run
Derby that was won by Vladimir Guerrero Junior, he beat
Randy rose Arena in the finals twenty five to twenty three.
Vlad Junior ended up hitting about seventy five home runs.
(27:06):
Last year in the home Run Derby, a Rosarina hit
about the same amount, even maybe even a little bit
north of that. So the amount of home runs that
you see is not the great spectacle exactly. The spectacle
is when one goes five hundred feet. And I think,
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if we were to really be honest, and I've been
fortunate enough to go to a couple of home run Derbies,
and honestly, Carrie, they're a little bit boring because it
just kind of takes forever. And by the time you
get to the finals, you've been to the park for
two and a half hours. You've seen I don't know,
one hundred and sixty home runs hit amongst all of
(27:51):
the players already. Yeah, so when you see another home
run go over, it doesn't have the same effect as
maybe the first couple that you've seen. And I think
the reason when you guys are talking about trying to
alter your swing and doing different things, it's also because
you're hitting twenty six home runs in a round. Julio
Rodriguez in front of the home fans last year put
(28:12):
on a show. Hit forty one home runs in his
first round. Wow, yeah, crazy, you know, and guess what
he lost in the second round because he was so
down tired for what he did in the first round.
It's not natural. So you know what I want to see.
I want to see the farthest home run, and you
know who I want to see. I want to see
if Aaron Judge is the one that can hit it.
(28:34):
And instead of making guys hit eighty home runs or
to go through all of these stages to try to
hit all of these home runs, which doesn't make it
a fan friendly deal, put Judge out there, put Harper
out there, put Stanton out there, the guys that you
can if healthy, and say, you guys get ten home runs,
(28:54):
you guys get ten hits farthest home run, million bucks
and you want to watch a shit like just to
see what Aaron Judge and maybe a million dollars doesn't
do it. We throw a million out there, but a
reason to just you know what, You're not gonna have
to hit eighty home runs. You're not gonna be up there,
you know, swinging in the sun. But if you go there,
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take ten pitches or ten hits in a batting which
you would normally do in a batting situation. Anyway, everybody's
taking BP by the way, on Monday of the All
Star Game, just like they are, you know, on before
Tuesday's game. If you go out there and just say, guys,
put on a show, and who can hit the farthest.
That's what I would want to see. Who hits one
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five hundred, who hits one five h five, who hits
one out of the park?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Who does you know? Like?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Those those are the things that I want to see.
That's what I would like to see from the home
run Derby. And then maybe just maybe you can get
those guys back into the derby. Judge has have been
in since twenty seventeen. Otani hasn't competed since twenty twenty one.
Who's the only time that he did. So maybe instead
of having guys hit eighty home runs a night, you
just have him go up there and take ten swings
and try to hit the farthest one that you can see.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And I agree with that, But the crazy part about
that is I'm sure there has to be a competition
committee that has to address certain things when it comes
to baseball, obviously, and the home run Derby the way
that it stands, it's just it's too taxing. And the
fact that they haven't come up with this idea now
is just.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If they have to fill a TV show, that's what
ESPN is like, we need three hours of programming. How
do we extend this Okay, we're gonna do it this way,
do it that way, and do it this way, and
do it that way. Now what they're gonna do, they're
gonna have all eight players hit home runs. Then after that,
I think then they're gonna filter it into the four
players and make it a bracket.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So it's head to head.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That way a little bit limits it because if you
beat the other player, then you could just stop at
that point. You if you've passed the opponent that you play,
you don't have to hit as many, but still you're
gonna be hitting a bunch of home runs. Somebody's gonna
probably end up hitting seventy five home runs in batting
practice and then they get the extra time for as far.
And it just it doesn't have to be that. And
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it's not that Vladimir Guerrero Junior isn't a popular name
and star in Major League Baseball. It's just the fact
of we want to see the star of stars. And
if there's a way that you can do it, if
you can tell Aaron Judge to show up there, who
wouldn't want to just watch him? I mean, heck, he's
on pace to break you know, his record of the
(31:22):
American League record is now we call him for a
home runs you know, he's on pace to break that.
So who wouldn't want to see him in an instance
like this, maybe hitting a five hundred you know foot shot.
That to me is what major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And I have to say to Jason right now, Otani's
second judge is number one in the league. Right now,
He's the best player in this league right now. And
Otani is right there nipping at his tails. But I mean, obviously,
the season that judges happen, it's just remarkable.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I'll give you that. I'll give you that until Shoes
starts pitching. Like, yes, this was this is definitely the
soft launch of shohll Ti. He's just sitting And I
love Dan's point. I don't know why I have never
even thought about this, but that is the way to
make a pretty tired event more interesting at the very least,
draw attention to and or reward the longest home runs
(32:12):
in the current format at least. Yeah, Like, I'd never
even think about that, or even like the tiebreaker is
the accumulation of distance compared to the other guys, because
each one is measured, right, Yeah, yes, I mean yeah,
make something out of that distance.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Furthest home run gets to the finals, you know, like
that's just something like that, or figure out a way
to make it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's so much. It just looked at They.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Did a round by round breakdown MLB dot Com did
last year and in the final round lad Guerrero hit
fourteen home runs in a minute thirteen. It was a
home run every five seconds. Wow, again, that's amazing. That's
not baseball. I don't care if your pitch clock is
three seconds, like, that is not baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
That is just you know, it's whack bam, bam, bam,
bam bam.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's like Kendrick Lamar like you know, right, like it's
like it is it's but that's not baseball.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Again, just another home run, another home run. We will see.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If they change Jason's favorite tradition of having unqualified youth
out in the outfield trying to catch, trying.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
How is that?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
How was that ever allowed? And how is that allowed
moving forward? Like, honestly, I hate to bring this back
to like a real serious note, but major League Baseball
is libel if there is a serious injury, and god forbid,
even worse, like I have no idea why they would
put kids in front of these flaming line drives.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, I know that's right. And a kid got hit
last night at the Dodger game, right, uh Otani hits
the home run on the forehead on the forest. Yeah,
from that distance.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Listen. Jason's a father. I'm a father. I don't know
the conversation that Jason would have. My son's three, so
you wouldn't understand that be out out. But when he's
twelve years old, like it would break my heart. But
I would be like, there is no way in heck
that you are going out and fielding baseballs in a
home run derby. You're no way possible. I don't care
(34:19):
that you're three hundred feet away from Vladimir Guerrero Junior.
Those line drives are humming from VP. Oh yes, yeah,
there is absolutely no way, As Rob Barker would say,
no way, no how, that is not happening, my goodness.
And by the way, it's not just four kids, it's forty,
(34:40):
so you're not only dodging baseballs, you're actually dodging other
kids who aren't as qualified to go and try to
catch those baseballs.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
What's the age requirement on that I don't.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I think like they max it out maybe at fifteen,
but there seems to be like some ten year olds
running around that I have no business being out there.
Absolutely not all right, he's carried year roads. I'm Dan Byer.
We try to fix the home run derby, but Joey
Otani not going to for the betterment of Jason and
maybe for the betterment of his elbow.
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Speaker 3 (35:21):
Live Exkivino and Rich. Here at Fox Sports Radio, He's
Carrie Rhodes, the all Pro. I'm Dan Byer, sitting in
for the guys who are in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
A happy early fourth to you. If you are traveling,
please be safe out there, and if you aren't traveling still,
please be saved with your fireworks.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Ust in Southern California. Have to worry about the wildfires
that could come with it as well, But it's hot everywhere,
so I'm sure that it's gonna be in most everywhere.
Could be an issue. Just be safe and enjoy the extended,
extended weekend. I don't know they're gonna have a going
away party for Klayton Thompson. If they are, I think
a lot of people are going to be attending. We
saw Steph Curry's tribute to Clay's he left the sign
(36:05):
to deal with the Dallas Mavericks. Now Draymond Green has
had his opportunity to weigh in on Clay's departure, speaking
on his podcast with the volume Here's the Warriors Forward
about saying bye bye to Clay Thompson.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
When Clay told me, I was just able to listen,
you know, and it wasn't like a yo, we could
finish like this so like you should rethink this. It
was just like wow, like all right, like congrass bro,
Like I'm happy for you.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That's dope, And like I didn't even attempt to like want.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
To talk him out of leaving or like, yo, you
should stay because like all the reasons that you would say,
like in things that you could, yeah, I could make
words sound good, but like those are known because to
see him struggle the way he did last year, I'd
hope the care that you'd have for that person will
go far beyond what you may feel as best for
you or what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
So some heavy words from Draymond Green. I have a
lot of takeaways from it. But you're the former athlete.
You've seen players come and go. When you hear Draymond
talk about Clay and talking about his future, how do
you respond to those comments.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's it sounds like a pretty mature response to a
situation that, like you said, may not benefit you. Right.
A lot of times when you're on a team or
you're in a relationship or whatever, it is, like you
can see you can't see the big picture of how
it's going to affect someone else because it's affecting you
(37:33):
directly in that in that scenario, So you're moving a
a big figure in their Big Three. They've had a
lot of success, They've had some ups and downs, but
way more success. So a lot of times you want
to live off that success and not be realistic about
the things that are also going on as well. And
I think as you're getting mature, you're able to with
(37:55):
you know, celebrate the wins, but also understand that there
is some some to the part that I'm not happy
in this situation anymore. And so I think that's a
beautiful thing to see Draymond actually have that awareness, because
a lot of people wouldn't have that awareness, and Draymont
hasn't had that awareness a lot of time. So to
see that, it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
A couple of things popped into my mind. Number One,
and it's not exact parallels, but it did make me
think of Scotty Pippen's time with the Bulls and in
his time and not that they're not that Clay wanted
to be the number one guy or wanted it to
be his team, but it's that that there are different
experiences for each player, and we think that, oh, the Bulls,
(38:38):
Jordan Pippen and Rodman, you know, Jordan Pippen and Grant.
However you want to look at it, that their experiences
are similar, that they're all tied into it, and heck,
he's splashed brothers with Steph Curry, so there's even this
two to zero and this you know, this tandem there.
But their experiences aren't the same. The experiences of Clay
going through his injuries over the last couple of years
(38:59):
are not the same. The season that Clay had this
past year not the same of what Steph is has
gone through and there is a difference in being number
one as opposed to number two and number three. And
Steph Curry is that guy in Golden State and that
just like Jordan was that guy in Chicago, And even
when he left for a while, Scotty had a difficult
(39:21):
time that they weren't putting him number one. So then
Jordan comes back and they win three more titles, and
then Scotty goes and plays elsewhere in Portland and yeah,
and you know, and ended up Houston as well. Yeah,
so that's where I kind of draw the Scottie Pippen comparison.
Not that Clay wanted to be number one, but it's
a different experience, like, yeah, you're on the same team,
Yeah you're winning the same titles. Yeah you have the
(39:43):
same championship rings, but your experience as a teammate just
completely different.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That's a great point. The Scotty Pippen thing was interesting
because when Jordan did leave to play baseball for a
year and a half, Pippin really proved his worth. We
actually got to see him in that number one, that
lead position. And even then there was some scenarios where
like Kou coach would get a play call for him
as the guy to make refused. There were things like
(40:12):
that that happened. But like you said that, the experience
from Pippen and Jordan would be totally different explaining in
that time period, right, So even like seeing the Last Dance,
it was literally from Jordan's perspective, in his eyes telling
that story, and you could see that, you know, Pippen
and Horace Grant and all those guys were a little
bit dejected about the way that they were conveyed in that,
(40:35):
in that, in that, in that, in that documentary. So
that's a great, great comparison. And Pippen went on to
have success other places. I in Portland, they were a
minute away from being in the finals, you know, so
he has some experience and this can kind of be
Clay's chance to help, you know, Dallas get over over
to Hump as well and win another championship. And it's south.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Jordan and Pippen were never BFFs, where it feels like
Steph and Clay were. But I think it all so
tells you that when you're in the same situation of
just even of your friends or someone else like the same,
their experiences are not the same as yours. And that's
what my you know, my takeaway from that is there
was so much conversation about Clay leaving the Warriors, and
(41:18):
we've talked about the end of the era with the Warriors,
but I feel that even the conversation over the last
twenty four to thirty six hours has been Clay saying
thanks but no thanks to the Lakers. And we see
Steph post all these pictures of Clay on Instagram and
we know that they signed the Warriors, sign Kyle Anderson,
you know, so they're starting to have life without Clay,
(41:41):
figuring out their own way of moving on. But it
is interesting to hear Draymond Green say what he had
to say and said it in a very emotional way,
and it can teach you a lot about life as well.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, just yeah, the maturation man, the we start having kids,
and I understand this thing isn't all about you. It's
about you know, really being of service to others. Then
you want to be the service of your brothers.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer. Is amazing, isn't it amazing? Guys?
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Carry you can speak to this much better than Dan
and I can when you're in a room full of
people making a whole lot more money than most of society,
and you hear about We've been reading all day with
these reports that come out of how miserable Klay Thompson
was on the team. He had friends, yes, but he
was miserable in the way he thought he was being
(42:30):
regarded by the ownership, even though he's making I don't
know what, thirty million bucks a year, whatever he was making.
It just goes to show you that in every walk
of life, there are listeners right now, a good portion
of them probably who are suffering from some kind of
misery at their job. Yes, and it's not always tied
or often it isn't tied to how much you're compensated, necessarily,
(42:54):
it's just the dynamics of the workplace and human beings
and how you're treated or thought to be treated.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That's what's fascinating about this.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And now I was just gonna say, that's the harshest
part of reality for someone who's been at a place,
you know, and then all of a sudden you're like, hey,
you know, now they're treating me like this or this
is how they think of me.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So and it's just it's again it's such it's a
team sport, but it's still you're you're handling real human beings,
individuals that have emotions and have eyes, so they're seeing
how others are being rewarded or not rewarded. Or this
(43:36):
young and up and comer just got paid and he's
right behind me. But you know, Draymond Green's had issues,
but they're still taking care of him and paying him.
So I've had an injury here and there, and you know,
I've done my service way probably more than you thought
I would, and you can't see that or take care
(43:56):
of that. And so as a human there's just a
level of betrayal. I don't know if that's the perfect
word for but that's probably what he feels for it.
And so that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I think there's there's also the levels of it, like
if you're if you know you're Klay Thompson and not
only did you bring four titles to Golden State, there
was a point where you missed significant time because of
your injuries, and you fought back and you worked and
you did all of this to get back to win
that fourth NBA title, And you look at all the
(44:29):
equity that you have, and sometimes it's even just the
littlest of things where that he felt that he was
owed that by the organizations and they aren't doing it,
And and I have there's I give Klay Thompson absolute
reason to be like, all right, this is for me.
And it really stinks that he felt that way. And
(44:51):
I don't know if that was the Warriors. If it
was the Warriors purposely doing it, shame on them, you know, like,
in doing that because of what this guy gave to
your organization, or is it just a victim of circumstance?
Do they did they not recognize the production in balance
of who he is and what he is. That's what
it feels like, you know, to me. And and I
(45:13):
think that the team is always going to be looked
at as the bad guy when the player ends up leaving.
But that doesn't mean that Clay's feelings aren't validated, and
that maybe the Warriors could have tried to have gone
the extra mile or to have done something to make
things at least remotely better instead of making the final
year of his contract there and being miserable. And I
(45:33):
think a theme that that Jason has pointed out to
put words in is Klay Thompson finally felt wanted for
the first time in a while, and that was it
was a way to you know. And now he goes
to Dallas and as you know, this new life and
this new feeling and being reinvigorated.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
And that's the thing we can also, I think both
sides can have a valid point, and both both sides
can be accurate in what they're doing and how they're
attacking it. But that leaves the story to the individual again, right,
And so if the feeling that you feel is an
accurate feeling towards for inside of you and what you feel,
(46:10):
then you go out and you do what you did
with Clay. Like Clay went to another team, he has
a chance to prove himself again and I'm sure he'll
be motivated, and you know, we will probably probably see
the best version of Clay and that's a good thing.
And the Gold and the Wars will be fine. They'll
pivot and try to put a competitive team out there
and you know, not seem to overpay in their minds,
(46:30):
and both teams will live on after that. You know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Play's in that unique spot where curries to Superstar and Greens,
like the guy that you love to hate, you know,
but like the welcoming like STEP's always going to be
welcome with open arms with Golden State. But whenever Clay
does return like that, ovation is going to be off
the charts. Yes, and then when he's retired, it's going
to be off the charts as well, because he carved
out his own and they look at his trials and
(46:56):
tribulations and what he went through.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
It really sucks.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
And I think that Steph Curry knows it, and Draymond
Green knows I think Steve Kerr knows it. Yeah, you know,
and and and you also you also had a change
in front office. You know, Bob Myers isn't there. Mike
Dunleavy Jr. Now taking over, So there are other decisions
that maybe you thought were good and maybe Steve Kerrs
like this is all that I can, you know, help with,
And Joe lacub And Mike Dunlevy Jr. Now have their
(47:20):
own vision for how it's going to go. I mean,
there's just a lot that plays in But by the way,
all of Klay Thompson's feelings one hundred percent valid.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yes, they are what in the world is a player
enhancement coach.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
The he's the guy who enhances players. Yeah, that would
be the Uh, yes, that's definition. You know what I
think this is. I think this is a mending offenses.
Kemba never should have left Charlotte, knowing what we now
know after he left as a free agent, and maybe
this is a way.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
To welcome him back. He truly is.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I mean, there hasn't been a lot of great Charlotte
Hornet's history, at least of this most recent crew. Kemba
Walker is part of that history. So maybe this is
just a way of them making up a job and
bringing Kemba Walker back within the organization.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Now on, let's find a way to get Kimbo on
the payroll. Right, what about player enhancement coach? That sounds
pretty good. There.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
He's the perfect example of maybe just the grass isn't
necessarily greener. Both he and the Hornets were not better
off without each other. They may not have went out
to win an NBA title, but things would have been
better if you would have stuck around.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
They would have not won a title ever. No, no,
but when he was there and he was dynamic, yes so,
and the.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Places that he went didn't work out as much as
he would have hoped. No player enhancement coach.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, I'm going to find out what that means instead
of ped Yeah, let's not get close to that. That
can be a step up, man, Brian.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, Brian Finley has got a big occasion coming up
in a little over a week.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Marrin. Yes, he still has time to say no. He
has a little time.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
She has time to say no. Yeah, So I'm not
exactly sure how to go about that. One of the
biggest things, guys is trying to get the number down
on who is actually gonna show up, because people will
say in your face, oh.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm definitely gonna be there at the wedding, and then
you hear from somebody else, ah, yeah, we can't make it.
We couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. And then
you know, like we're we have to pay for as
many people, so we're supposed to come as whoever that
is that number. So that's always the fun part.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
I'll tell you what, Brian, I want you to mull
on this and you're gonna get us an answer at
the end of the break. Would you want Carrie Rhodes
to sing at your wedding. Okay, thank you, he's already
got that. I'll tell you why when we get back. Okay, Yeah,
he's Brian Fanlan. It's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Jason
Stewart's here Iowa. Sam is here as well. Don't worry, Sam,
We've got some Caitlyn Clark talk coming up here on
(49:50):
Cavino and Rich. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the sharpshooter
from Indiana. Coming up a bit later on in the program.
Carrie's got a bit of a dilemma we are going
to try to work through and hopefully we can help
him find his pitch. He's Carry Roads. Fina met Carrie
twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byro
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I think for the next two years. But again it's
all up to him. As the news of the day
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is Lebron James. No surprise that he's back with the Lakers,
zero surprise whatsoever, and really not much of a surprise
in terms of his contract except a few other things.
And these things, no matter how minute they are, Carrie,
when it comes to Lebron James, always end up being
a bigger thing. And it's a bigger thing considering the
(02:05):
news that we had yesterday when the Lakers introduced Bronni
James as part of their draft class, of course, drafted
in the second round and the draft just a week ago.
But the conversation with the Lakers never stops. And maybe
we're making a mountain out of a mole hill. But
let's let's start with that Lebron James contract. It's a
two year deal near a max one hundred and four
(02:29):
million dollars over the two years, but the second year
is a player option. It also includes a no trade clause,
so the Lakers cannot trade Lebron James. Just off the
top of your head, do you know how many players
in the NBA have a no trade clause?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I do? I do know that information. It's only two
and the other is Bradley Beal.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
So that tells you a little something. Okay, first of all,
whoever did Bradley Beal's contract is the og?
Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Comes amazing, Like, I mean, that person is the the supreme,
the numero uno, He's the godfather. But it's also the
fact of why, like, is there is there a reality?
Is there a real world where the Lakers would ever
trade Lebron James? No, no, no, and so like like
(03:19):
just the fact. But again it's always getting more, like
wanting more, where it just never ends with the Lakers.
It's the drafting of his of his son, It's it's
getting his contract, it's hiring of JJ Reddick, It's more
and more and more and more, and I just don't
know when it ends for the Lakers. And and that's
(03:41):
that's like my takeaways. I look at this is now
and and by the way, for the next how many
years it's gonna be, whether it be the next three
years or four years where Brony's in La Are we
going to have to deal with every off season of
Lebron James deciding on whether he wants to retire or
not like that is I think that is the point
(04:03):
that we are at. And to me, it's just another
layer of the Lakers always giving into Lebron James.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, we talk about acquiescing to somebody. I mean, this
is the ultimate case of that. Right, You're gonna be
held hostage for as long as Lebron wants to hold
you hostage. And so to be in that sweepstakes with
the Lebron at this point in his career, is it
worth it? Right? Are they gonna win this year coming
(04:30):
up or the next two years, probably not. So you're
investing in Lebron being the main attraction that's gonna always
keep the arena field. But it's the Lakers. The arena's
probably gonna be filled anyway. So what do you stand
to gain with this? Is it just association with the
Lebron James brand, which is bigger than life. It's bigger
(04:53):
than anything we've ever seen in that sport, right, I mean,
he has so much pool, so much gravitas, and I
think I think it starts and ends with the brand
because the brand of play that he has on the
court isn't with him being a number one option or
number two option, which we've seen the last couple of years,
isn't enough for them to win. So where does it stop?
(05:14):
I don't know. But the version that we're getting right
now with him and him holding the biggest brand hostage
is pretty it's pretty it's pretty insane. You use the
word hostage a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
So we're going to play back a little bit of
Bronnie James from yesterday because I know that there's some
stuff that that stood out with that. I just I
just at one point, if you're you're rich, Paul and Lebron,
do you say, like, maybe we should give him one,
maybe we should give him a break, maybe keeping them
under the second apron and taking a million dollar less.
(05:47):
Is there their way of of it going back and forth? Sure,
but it sure seems like it's been, you know, a
one sided sort of deal. And the Lakers have been
some want criticized this offseason for their inability to bring
in other players that we thought maybe could have been candidates.
Obviously Klay Thompson the biggest name that didn't work out.
(06:10):
He chose to go to the Dallas Mavericks, which I
think a lot of feel is an indictment on the
Lakers considering his you know, connections there. But nothing has
necessarily gone right for the Lakers. And that's a constant
message over these last couple of days. And the only
things that seem to actually be getting done are all Lebron,
James and Rich Paul connected.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
And it's all we talked about. It's Sunday, It's all calculated.
The leak, it's that comes out, when it comes out,
is always in Lebron's favor. Even the contract right he's
willing to accept under the max. If we get this
it's always a caveat, but the caveat is always something
that has to do with Lebron or his team, And
(06:53):
so we see that that's number one. So everything about
that's always calculated. But then think about any free age
that has joined them or joined Lebron down the stretch
of his career. They stand to gain no praise, but
there's but they stand the game the blame. And so
why would any any guy that has a chance to
(07:14):
go play with Lebron that's had a name or been
an All Star or a big or thought of as
a big time player in this league want to go
be subjected to that, especially after saying weusin ruthblike.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
R you know, you know what's interesting, because I know
your time in the NFL, there have been some some
veterans that have come aboard and maybe had different rules
than other people. I think that Lebron's career has gone off,
has gone on for so long that he has now
outlasted pretty much most of his peers in the NBA.
(07:43):
And so if you go back a decade ago, and
it's crazy to think that a decade ago was twenty
fourteen at the end of his heat run, But it's
been ten years. And even more than that, Lebron James
had guys that would be willing to come and play
for him, and there were certain players and they would
(08:04):
kind of issue some of the younger people. Some of
the younger players that maybe they could bring along didn't
necessarily develop many many players, and instead would rather take
veterans that were Lebron's peers, or even guys that were
older than him. This is the problem when you go
to a ninety eight year old's funeral, none of their
friends are there because they're all gone. And so Lebron now,
(08:28):
in terms of wanting to bring people in, there's nobody
left in the league that would even want to do
what the Lebron old thing would do because they're not
connected to Lebron. He's not their age. And the other
thing is is maybe just maybe some of them had
heard stories about other people being passed along or pushed
to the side or moved on, and so now that
(08:49):
doesn't seem appealing to them. And so it's not to
be careful what you wish for. But what worked ten
years ago is now turning around and biting you in
the butt. And I feel that that is part of
what's happening with the Lakers and Lebron James and now
he's getting everything that he wants. But that's not the
NBA of ten years ago, and there are people that
don't want to play that way.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah, nobody wants to have one guy be the beneficiary
of all the things we talk about. We can take
it in switch sports, right, we can go to Caitlin Clark.
We've talked about that a lot, but he's been the
beneficiary of a lot of the stories surrounding the blossoming
sport of the WNBA, Right, And so there's just a
(09:29):
normal feeling of like, Okay, enough enough, And I think
that's kind of what's happening here.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
How much pull did Farv have when he came a
lot and that's someone with yeah, zero equity into the Jets,
and Lebron's got a little with the Lakers, but still
like even though he's been there a while now, I
don't know if it rises to the level of it,
but it is you are catering to your star. Like
are there any parallels with the Jets to what Lebron
(09:58):
and the Lakers are doing?
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Sure, but I don't think Yes, there was power surrounding
what Brett Favre could do and and maybe we couldn't
do as a team prior, right, Like there were some changes,
there were some things that he had his own locker
room with the coaches, right, he had the same dress
code didn't apply to him that applied to us at
certain points. But even in that small amount of time,
(10:22):
us as players, we recognized that and we spoke up
about that after a certain points. So do the players
that come their field they have the cache to speak
up on some of these things that Lebron is doing,
and it's obviously the answer is no when you see that.
But for us, we spoke up about that. And that's
why that that union didn't last long. So didn't things
didn't change or like they did change in that time. Yeah,
(10:44):
like everybody now that Brett Favre doesn't have to wear
suits to the road game, so everybody's not wearing suits
to the road like that Farv is actually wearing the suit.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
It's that the rules relaxed for everybody else exactly so
he could wear his wranglers pedling. He's carrier all time.
Dan Byer Carrie used the word hostage. This was Bronnie
James talking about I guess his future when he was
introduced yesterday as the Lakers second round pick here in LA.
Speaker 4 (11:14):
For sure, the amplified amount of pressure. I've already seen it,
stuff media and stuff on it in the internet and
stuff talking about I might not deserve an opportunity, but
you know, I've been dealing with stuff like this for
my whole life. So it's it's it's nothing different, but
it's it's it's more amplified, for sure. But I can
get through it.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
I don't think I would just like when I get there.
I don't think it would be like to be like
me and my dad like I would. I would, you know,
I would be happy about getting to the league instead
of me thinking about playing with my dad. But that's
like not my mindset or not at all. I'm just
trying to put in the work and see where it.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Takes me play.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
So there's a little double dose of Bronnie James for you. Yeah,
riding the company line. Is that what you here? That's
what you're hearing.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Yeah, it's one of those things. It feels to me
like he's been kept captive in this room for for
a couple of months, getting prepped on what to say,
what not to say, and then they say, show up
to this place at this time, and you're going to speak,
you know, in a way that's not going to draw
attention to anything other than you know what you're gonna
(12:24):
put on the court. And it seemed like there was
no emotion, there was no sense of him being himself,
and so it seems like it's very much calculated, which
is everything that represents Lebron and so that's there's no
separation there.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
There's there's no way to get to know him, and
and that's the thing of usually with rookies, whether it
be in your sport, the NFL or in the NBA.
I've I even felt bad for Dalton Connect And I
said this, I said this yesterday that Dalton Connect is
a guy whose story is magnificent. Of a guy who's
(13:00):
art it out in a junior college, then went to
D two and transfer to the SEC, which player of
the year, and then gets drafted by the Lakers. That's amazing. Yeah,
that doesn't even give a second thought. And I also
thought that Bronnie's wording. And I don't want to sit
here and criticize Bronni because I don't think it's Bronnie's
choice exactly in all of this, but there were a
bunch of different ways to go. And what it is
(13:21):
is it sounds like it's a presidential debate, or at
least Bronnie is coherent, but he's saying the things that
are sticking to the topic and sticking to the script prepped. Yes, yes, yes,
this is the point. And if they talk about this,
go back to this sort of thing. Yeah, And that's
what it feels like.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I mean, it legitimately feels like if the way that
it's going right now and the way that he's approaching this,
and I'm sure he has to handle it a little
bit delicately, but we're not going to know who he is,
and this is a chance for him to actually, as
as he's becoming a man, to know distance himself from
(14:03):
that brand and be his own person. And so I
just don't know if planned with his dad, he's gonna
have that opportunity.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Well, there's there's gonna be a time Ris Dad's not
in the league and he's always gonna have his name,
And honestly, it's we don't know if Bronni will be
in the league when his dad is out of the league,
you know, and so like to the point of here's
and and maybe that goes back to the point of
the original contract. I am not surprised in the least
(14:31):
that Lebron is going for a year to year contract.
The cynic in me is like, of course Lebron wants
to make it about himself as this goes on. But
there's also a part of me to that point that thinks, like, well,
as long as I'm here, they're not gonna get rid
of Bronni, and I'm gonna take care of Bronni in
that way. And this is how we're gonna go because
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this isn't your team, this is my team, and this
is how I want things to run. And that is
crazy to think of one of the most storied French
is in the NBA that he has taken over that
franchise and maybe now is holding them hostage, not only
now with his contract but Bronni's contract And and what
ends up happening to Bronnie And at some point Broni's
(15:12):
got to grow himself, Yes, and it would probably bemove
him that his dad wasn't still in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Yeah, but what you just said, is very much a
real thing. If his dad's not in the NBA, will
he be in the NBA after that time? So he
has in theory two years or a year here to
really show what he can do. And again we talk
about Bron having that he can he can opt out
in that second year. Maybe Lebron ends up going to
another team and he comes there there as well. But
(15:40):
like it's always that kind of at this moment, almost
seems like a package deal. He's carry Rhoads.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
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Speaker 2 (17:09):
To get to that.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
In about thirty minutes or so, we are in for
the guys today on a Wednesday, July, third day before
the fourth of July. I'm gonna pose a question, because
we are going to discuss over these next couple of weeks.
Over these next couple of weeks, who are you more
intrigued to watch play Caitlin Clark or Bronnie James. Okay,
(17:32):
that's that We're gonna throw that out there. Yeah, So
if you're driving along, if you're about to get you know,
away for the four day holiday making an extended weekend,
you can always chime in at Carrie twenty five Roads.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
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Heck, we'd even take your phone calls if you want
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So just put that stew on that a little bit
if you will, including the crew over there. Briddy James
is gonna play some So I'm our league ball for
the Lakers. Caitlyn Clark obviously has been a topic of
conversation for the last two months all Star voting. She's
an All Star, so is Angel Reese. But there's other
(18:10):
stuff that came with the All Star voting that we
do need to talk about. So there is where our
Caitlyn Clark discussion will be. But we start with a
different sort of festivity, and that is in less than
two weeks, it will be the Major League Baseball All
Star Break, the All Star Game. Less than two weeks
away now that you will see on Fox. And of
(18:30):
course Monday of All Star Week is the Home Run Derby,
and we found out today that show Heo Tani will
not be taking parts in the Home Run Derby and
instead health reasons the reasons why Soho Heo Tani will
not be taking part, but also in a quote that
it is not his sole responsibility to carry Major League Baseball.
(18:56):
It was something that Dylan Hernandez wrote for The Times,
and I think that there's some truth to that, and
it's the word soul responsibility, because I do think that
other players have to step up and take this event
and help keep it at one of the marquee events
(19:18):
of the summer. Like you and I are just sitting here,
and the Major League Baseball has tried to mess with
the format and they did it again this year. But
there is no doubt that when we're in the middle
of July and Home Run Derby comes on and it's
usually on ESPN, that we sit there and watch it
and take it in and enjoy the spectacle. But you
can't just have it a run of the mill thing,
because then it's going to kind of run out, maybe
(19:41):
like the slam dunk competition, so that like then poses
the question of like first of all, like who's responsibility
is it then for Major League Baseball or for the
players to keep this Home Run Derby going. The problem
with the dunk contest is not only is it players
(20:02):
that aren't superstars like Lebron that you would have loved
to have seen in the games. It's not even the
next level of players, Like there are players that aren't
even in the league that we had to put into
the dunk contest because they could actually dunk. Matt McClung
being one of those guys. Yes, major League Baseball as
a bevy of stars, and it's not that the names
(20:23):
of those players aren't recognizable. It's just that there are
very very few names that will grab attention no matter what.
Otani is one of those names. Judge is another one
of those names. Harper's another one of those names. Yeah,
those are the names that I feel that need to
end up taking part in the Home Run Derby if
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it's going to continue to be the spectacle that it is.
And I don't blame Otani because of his injuries, but
I do think that these superstar players do need to
take an account and to take some responsibility of carrying
what is a huge, huge deal for Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, there's layers to a So you talk about the
NBA Dunk Contest, for example, it is a name a
named event, like we want the big names, we want
the big brands to take part in it. That's part
of the problem that it's going down into such a
place that it's that it's at right now. But on
top of the name recognition, as far as the Dunk
(21:21):
Contest having any more you know, gravitas as being something
that's a must must watch events, it's hard because we've
probably seen every dunk that you can do, and so
you get tired of seeing dunks that I, especially me
as a as a basketball player, I can do, Like
I want to see something that can't do No, no, no, no,
(21:44):
I'm just like from you know, just like even from
a player perspective, right, But when you get to baseball,
in the home run derby, there's nothing like hearing the
back connect with the ball and they're going as far
as humanly possible, Like I can't do that, Like the
normal person at home can't do that. And so just
seeing that and witnessing that has always been a great thing.
(22:05):
But we've also seen players that were really hot before
the All Star Break, hitting the ball really well and
hitting the ton and then taking part in the home
run Derby and losing that, losing their stroke and not
being able to hit the ball the same way for
a portion of time once the second part of the
season kicks off. So I'm sure a person like Otani
(22:25):
that's really aware, self aware of himself as a player
and his game, I'm sure a little bit of that
weighs in on him as well.
Speaker 3 (22:33):
I think it ends up being a cop out you
do of the second half. Yes, swing you mean tell
me that one one night after how many rounds of
BP that you've taken. You mean you haven't gone at
a spring training complex and ended up just you know, like,
(22:54):
all right, let's mash some let's just let's just get
him out of here. I think it is. It is
such an excuse for players who don't perform to blame
it on the home run derby, and I think it's
become accepted and that has now allowed players to not
participate in it. Yes, And that's the problem with me
is I would I would love.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
It, and I don't.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I don't know, if there are numbers, and maybe this
is the point that I'm wrong, but you know, is
anybody out their average go up after winning it? That
would I mean, we would never hear about that, but
we would hear. Hey, guess what, Lucky participating in the
home run derby just hasn't been the same. Yeah, what
about just taking this break in the middle of the season,
you know, and being away from your team and then
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taking a couple of days off of that. But you're
gonna blame it on the one the one night that
you hit the home run derby. And I'm not saying
that it hasn't happened to someone. It just you can't
tell me that it's happening to everyone. And that's why
nobody should do it to me. That's the problem that
I have with it.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah. No, I mean obviously we would all you know,
I think stand to gain a lot of love and
affection for that sport in the home run derby. If
we got to get a show down between oh Tani
and Judge down the stretch, those two going, you know,
head to head and you know, crushing balls out out
of the stadium, it would be a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Jason Stewart is a Dodger fan. He's been on record
of saying that he did not want sho Heyo Tani
there it is on to compete in the home run
derby basically because of his injury.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Correct? Is that is that the sole reason?
Speaker 7 (24:25):
Yeah, you know, it's too bad that he pulled out
today because I really thought this was going to be
the topic that carried us through the All Star Game.
I thought he was going to go right up to
the weekend and we could talk about it on sports
talk radio all next week. But no, he did what
I thought he should do. And that's because you talk
about the cop out, and I agree with you. I
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think that it's given the top name player is a
reason to not do it, a convenient reason not to
do it. And I also don't believe that it has
much of an impact on your production after the contest.
But I will say this. You hear about how it's
a different kind of exercise. In other words, it's much
different than batting practice. It's much different than cage work.
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You hear about how people how they didn't realize how
over exerting it is, how they would have like soreness,
And you probably experienced this Carrie too, like soreness with
muscles that you don't typically have soreness with, like hamstring
soreness the next day, or like you know, a tweak
in the flexor or whatever. Like, they have these little
(25:30):
like over exertion kind of semi injuries coming off of it.
And I just didn't want the you know, our best player,
the daughter's best player, and the best player in the
entire league, to do something as he's over exerting himself
to injure that arm. He's been able to hit, and
he's been able to hit well all season, So obviously
the rehab and hitting don't have a whole lot to
(25:52):
do with each other. But I think that you're doing
a little bit, that little extra, and that's kind of
where the injuries happen, right when you're trying to do
a little extra.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, I know it's my issue. He has to overcompensating, right,
So if you're trying to hit the ball, if you're
intentionally trying to hit the ball out of the park,
there is an extra gear that you have to go with.
I mean, you can have your normal swaying, yes, but
you also want to be impressive as well. And that's
part of it. How far the balls are going too,
so it's a little different.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
That is my big thing. And I do want to
clear up something that I said because I got confused.
Dylan Hernandez covering the Lakers rights for the La Times,
Dave Roberts is the one who said it's just not
his responsibility alone to carry the game of baseball. That
was the quote. Dylan obviously took that quote. I just
looked at it wrong and read it wrong, but wanted
to clarify. Robert sang basically Otani does this on a
(26:40):
daily basis. He doesn't need to do it for the
home run Derby. Clarified that portion of it. The length
of the home runs is actually the thing that I
want to see. Exactly last year, in the home Run
Derby that was won by Vladimir Guerrero Junior, he beat
Randy rose Arena in the finals twenty five to twenty three.
Vlad Junior ended up hitting about seventy five home runs.
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Last year in the home Run Derby, a Rosarina hit
about the same amount, even maybe even a little bit
north of that. So the amount of home runs that
you see is not the great spectacle exactly. The spectacle
is when one goes five hundred feet. And I think,
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if we were to really be honest, and I've been
fortunate enough to go to a couple of home run Derbies,
and honestly, Carrie, they're a little bit boring because it
just kind of takes forever. And by the time you
get to the finals, you've been to the park for
two and a half hours. You've seen I don't know,
one hundred and sixty home runs hit amongst all of
(27:51):
the players already. Yeah, so when you see another home
run go over, it doesn't have the same effect as
maybe the first couple that you've seen. And I think
the reason when you guys are talking about trying to
alter your swing and doing different things, it's also because
you're hitting twenty six home runs in a round. Julio
Rodriguez in front of the home fans last year put
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on a show. Hit forty one home runs in his
first round. Wow, yeah, crazy, you know, and guess what
he lost in the second round because he was so
down tired for what he did in the first round.
It's not natural. So you know what I want to see.
I want to see the farthest home run, and you
know who I want to see. I want to see
if Aaron Judge is the one that can hit it.
(28:34):
And instead of making guys hit eighty home runs or
to go through all of these stages to try to
hit all of these home runs, which doesn't make it
a fan friendly deal, put Judge out there, put Harper
out there, put Stanton out there, the guys that you
can if healthy, and say, you guys get ten home runs,
(28:54):
you guys get ten hits farthest home run, million bucks
and you want to watch a shit like just to
see what Aaron Judge and maybe a million dollars doesn't
do it. We throw a million out there, but a
reason to just you know what, You're not gonna have
to hit eighty home runs. You're not gonna be up there,
you know, swinging in the sun. But if you go there,
(29:14):
take ten pitches or ten hits in a batting which
you would normally do in a batting situation. Anyway, everybody's
taking BP by the way, on Monday of the All
Star Game, just like they are, you know, on before
Tuesday's game. If you go out there and just say, guys,
put on a show, and who can hit the farthest.
That's what I would want to see. Who hits one
(29:35):
five hundred, who hits one five h five, who hits
one out of the park?
Speaker 2 (29:39):
Who does you know? Like?
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Those those are the things that I want to see.
That's what I would like to see from the home
run Derby. And then maybe just maybe you can get
those guys back into the derby. Judge has have been
in since twenty seventeen. Otani hasn't competed since twenty twenty one.
Who's the only time that he did. So maybe instead
of having guys hit eighty home runs a night, you
just have him go up there and take ten swings
and try to hit the farthest one that you can see.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
And I agree with that, But the crazy part about
that is I'm sure there has to be a competition
committee that has to address certain things when it comes
to baseball, obviously, and the home run Derby the way
that it stands, it's just it's too taxing. And the
fact that they haven't come up with this idea now
is just.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
If they have to fill a TV show, that's what
ESPN is like, we need three hours of programming. How
do we extend this Okay, we're gonna do it this way,
do it that way, and do it this way, and
do it that way. Now what they're gonna do, they're
gonna have all eight players hit home runs. Then after that,
I think then they're gonna filter it into the four
players and make it a bracket.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
So it's head to head.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
That way a little bit limits it because if you
beat the other player, then you could just stop at
that point. You if you've passed the opponent that you play,
you don't have to hit as many, but still you're
gonna be hitting a bunch of home runs. Somebody's gonna
probably end up hitting seventy five home runs in batting
practice and then they get the extra time for as far.
And it just it doesn't have to be that. And
(31:02):
it's not that Vladimir Guerrero Junior isn't a popular name
and star in Major League Baseball. It's just the fact
of we want to see the star of stars. And
if there's a way that you can do it, if
you can tell Aaron Judge to show up there, who
wouldn't want to just watch him? I mean, heck, he's
on pace to break you know, his record of the
(31:22):
American League record is now we call him for a
home runs you know, he's on pace to break that.
So who wouldn't want to see him in an instance
like this, maybe hitting a five hundred you know foot shot.
That to me is what major League Baseball needs.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
And I have to say to Jason right now, Otani's
second judge is number one in the league. Right now,
He's the best player in this league right now. And
Otani is right there nipping at his tails. But I mean, obviously,
the season that judges happen, it's just remarkable.
Speaker 7 (31:49):
I'll give you that. I'll give you that until Shoes
starts pitching. Like, yes, this was this is definitely the
soft launch of shohll Ti. He's just sitting And I
love Dan's point. I don't know why I have never
even thought about this, but that is the way to
make a pretty tired event more interesting at the very least,
draw attention to and or reward the longest home runs
(32:12):
in the current format at least. Yeah, Like, I'd never
even think about that, or even like the tiebreaker is
the accumulation of distance compared to the other guys, because
each one is measured, right, Yeah, yes, I mean yeah,
make something out of that distance.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Furthest home run gets to the finals, you know, like
that's just something like that, or figure out a way
to make it.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
It's so much. It just looked at They.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Did a round by round breakdown MLB dot Com did
last year and in the final round lad Guerrero hit
fourteen home runs in a minute thirteen. It was a
home run every five seconds. Wow, again, that's amazing. That's
not baseball. I don't care if your pitch clock is
three seconds, like, that is not baseball.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
That is just you know, it's whack bam, bam, bam,
bam bam.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
It's like Kendrick Lamar like you know, right, like it's
like it is it's but that's not baseball.
Speaker 2 (33:14):
Again, just another home run, another home run. We will see.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
If they change Jason's favorite tradition of having unqualified youth
out in the outfield trying to catch, trying.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
How is that?
Speaker 7 (33:27):
How was that ever allowed? And how is that allowed
moving forward? Like, honestly, I hate to bring this back
to like a real serious note, but major League Baseball
is libel if there is a serious injury, and god forbid,
even worse, like I have no idea why they would
put kids in front of these flaming line drives.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
Yeah, I know that's right. And a kid got hit
last night at the Dodger game, right, uh Otani hits
the home run on the forehead on the forest. Yeah,
from that distance.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Listen. Jason's a father. I'm a father. I don't know
the conversation that Jason would have. My son's three, so
you wouldn't understand that be out out. But when he's
twelve years old, like it would break my heart. But
I would be like, there is no way in heck
that you are going out and fielding baseballs in a
home run derby. You're no way possible. I don't care
(34:19):
that you're three hundred feet away from Vladimir Guerrero Junior.
Those line drives are humming from VP. Oh yes, yeah,
there is absolutely no way, As Rob Barker would say,
no way, no how, that is not happening, my goodness.
And by the way, it's not just four kids, it's forty,
(34:40):
so you're not only dodging baseballs, you're actually dodging other
kids who aren't as qualified to go and try to
catch those baseballs.
Speaker 2 (34:48):
What's the age requirement on that I don't.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
I think like they max it out maybe at fifteen,
but there seems to be like some ten year olds
running around that I have no business being out there.
Absolutely not all right, he's carried year roads. I'm Dan Byer.
We try to fix the home run derby, but Joey
Otani not going to for the betterment of Jason and
maybe for the betterment of his elbow.
Speaker 6 (35:10):
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Speaker 3 (35:21):
Live Exkivino and Rich. Here at Fox Sports Radio, He's
Carrie Rhodes, the all Pro. I'm Dan Byer, sitting in
for the guys who are in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
A happy early fourth to you. If you are traveling,
please be safe out there, and if you aren't traveling still,
please be saved with your fireworks.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Oh man.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Ust in Southern California. Have to worry about the wildfires
that could come with it as well, But it's hot everywhere,
so I'm sure that it's gonna be in most everywhere.
Could be an issue. Just be safe and enjoy the extended,
extended weekend. I don't know they're gonna have a going
away party for Klayton Thompson. If they are, I think
a lot of people are going to be attending. We
saw Steph Curry's tribute to Clay's he left the sign
(36:05):
to deal with the Dallas Mavericks. Now Draymond Green has
had his opportunity to weigh in on Clay's departure, speaking
on his podcast with the volume Here's the Warriors Forward
about saying bye bye to Clay Thompson.
Speaker 8 (36:18):
When Clay told me, I was just able to listen,
you know, and it wasn't like a yo, we could
finish like this so like you should rethink this. It
was just like wow, like all right, like congrass bro,
Like I'm happy for you.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
That's dope, And like I didn't even attempt to like want.
Speaker 8 (36:33):
To talk him out of leaving or like, yo, you
should stay because like all the reasons that you would say,
like in things that you could, yeah, I could make
words sound good, but like those are known because to
see him struggle the way he did last year, I'd
hope the care that you'd have for that person will
go far beyond what you may feel as best for
you or what you want to see.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
So some heavy words from Draymond Green. I have a
lot of takeaways from it. But you're the former athlete.
You've seen players come and go. When you hear Draymond
talk about Clay and talking about his future, how do
you respond to those comments.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
It's it sounds like a pretty mature response to a
situation that, like you said, may not benefit you. Right.
A lot of times when you're on a team or
you're in a relationship or whatever, it is, like you
can see you can't see the big picture of how
it's going to affect someone else because it's affecting you
(37:33):
directly in that in that scenario, So you're moving a
a big figure in their Big Three. They've had a
lot of success, They've had some ups and downs, but
way more success. So a lot of times you want
to live off that success and not be realistic about
the things that are also going on as well. And
I think as you're getting mature, you're able to with
(37:55):
you know, celebrate the wins, but also understand that there
is some some to the part that I'm not happy
in this situation anymore. And so I think that's a
beautiful thing to see Draymond actually have that awareness, because
a lot of people wouldn't have that awareness, and Draymont
hasn't had that awareness a lot of time. So to
see that, it's pretty cool to see.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
A couple of things popped into my mind. Number One,
and it's not exact parallels, but it did make me
think of Scotty Pippen's time with the Bulls and in
his time and not that they're not that Clay wanted
to be the number one guy or wanted it to
be his team, but it's that that there are different
experiences for each player, and we think that, oh, the Bulls,
(38:38):
Jordan Pippen and Rodman, you know, Jordan Pippen and Grant.
However you want to look at it, that their experiences
are similar, that they're all tied into it, and heck,
he's splashed brothers with Steph Curry, so there's even this
two to zero and this you know, this tandem there.
But their experiences aren't the same. The experiences of Clay
going through his injuries over the last couple of years
(38:59):
are not the same. The season that Clay had this
past year not the same of what Steph is has
gone through and there is a difference in being number
one as opposed to number two and number three. And
Steph Curry is that guy in Golden State and that
just like Jordan was that guy in Chicago, And even
when he left for a while, Scotty had a difficult
(39:21):
time that they weren't putting him number one. So then
Jordan comes back and they win three more titles, and
then Scotty goes and plays elsewhere in Portland and yeah,
and you know, and ended up Houston as well. Yeah,
so that's where I kind of draw the Scottie Pippen comparison.
Not that Clay wanted to be number one, but it's
a different experience, like, yeah, you're on the same team,
Yeah you're winning the same titles. Yeah you have the
(39:43):
same championship rings, but your experience as a teammate just
completely different.
Speaker 2 (39:49):
That's a great point. The Scotty Pippen thing was interesting
because when Jordan did leave to play baseball for a
year and a half, Pippin really proved his worth. We
actually got to see him in that number one, that
lead position. And even then there was some scenarios where
like Kou coach would get a play call for him
as the guy to make refused. There were things like
(40:12):
that that happened. But like you said that, the experience
from Pippen and Jordan would be totally different explaining in
that time period, right, So even like seeing the Last Dance,
it was literally from Jordan's perspective, in his eyes telling
that story, and you could see that, you know, Pippen
and Horace Grant and all those guys were a little
bit dejected about the way that they were conveyed in that,
(40:35):
in that, in that, in that, in that documentary. So
that's a great, great comparison. And Pippen went on to
have success other places. I in Portland, they were a
minute away from being in the finals, you know, so
he has some experience and this can kind of be
Clay's chance to help, you know, Dallas get over over
to Hump as well and win another championship. And it's south.
Speaker 3 (40:55):
Jordan and Pippen were never BFFs, where it feels like
Steph and Clay were. But I think it all so
tells you that when you're in the same situation of
just even of your friends or someone else like the same,
their experiences are not the same as yours. And that's
what my you know, my takeaway from that is there
was so much conversation about Clay leaving the Warriors, and
(41:18):
we've talked about the end of the era with the Warriors,
but I feel that even the conversation over the last
twenty four to thirty six hours has been Clay saying
thanks but no thanks to the Lakers. And we see
Steph post all these pictures of Clay on Instagram and
we know that they signed the Warriors, sign Kyle Anderson,
you know, so they're starting to have life without Clay,
(41:41):
figuring out their own way of moving on. But it
is interesting to hear Draymond Green say what he had
to say and said it in a very emotional way,
and it can teach you a lot about life as well.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Yeah, just yeah, the maturation man, the we start having kids,
and I understand this thing isn't all about you. It's
about you know, really being of service to others. Then
you want to be the service of your brothers.
Speaker 8 (42:03):
Well.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer. Is amazing, isn't it amazing? Guys?
Speaker 7 (42:08):
Carry you can speak to this much better than Dan
and I can when you're in a room full of
people making a whole lot more money than most of society,
and you hear about We've been reading all day with
these reports that come out of how miserable Klay Thompson
was on the team. He had friends, yes, but he
was miserable in the way he thought he was being
(42:30):
regarded by the ownership, even though he's making I don't
know what, thirty million bucks a year, whatever he was making.
It just goes to show you that in every walk
of life, there are listeners right now, a good portion
of them probably who are suffering from some kind of
misery at their job. Yes, and it's not always tied
or often it isn't tied to how much you're compensated, necessarily,
(42:54):
it's just the dynamics of the workplace and human beings
and how you're treated or thought to be treated.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That's what's fascinating about this.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
And now I was just gonna say, that's the harshest
part of reality for someone who's been at a place,
you know, and then all of a sudden you're like, hey,
you know, now they're treating me like this or this
is how they think of me.
Speaker 2 (43:15):
So and it's just it's again it's such it's a
team sport, but it's still you're you're handling real human beings,
individuals that have emotions and have eyes, so they're seeing
how others are being rewarded or not rewarded. Or this
(43:36):
young and up and comer just got paid and he's
right behind me. But you know, Draymond Green's had issues,
but they're still taking care of him and paying him.
So I've had an injury here and there, and you know,
I've done my service way probably more than you thought
I would, and you can't see that or take care
(43:56):
of that. And so as a human there's just a
level of betrayal. I don't know if that's the perfect
word for but that's probably what he feels for it.
And so that's that's tough.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I think there's there's also the levels of it, like
if you're if you know you're Klay Thompson and not
only did you bring four titles to Golden State, there
was a point where you missed significant time because of
your injuries, and you fought back and you worked and
you did all of this to get back to win
that fourth NBA title, And you look at all the
(44:29):
equity that you have, and sometimes it's even just the
littlest of things where that he felt that he was
owed that by the organizations and they aren't doing it,
And and I have there's I give Klay Thompson absolute
reason to be like, all right, this is for me.
And it really stinks that he felt that way. And
(44:51):
I don't know if that was the Warriors. If it
was the Warriors purposely doing it, shame on them, you know, like,
in doing that because of what this guy gave to
your organization, or is it just a victim of circumstance?
Do they did they not recognize the production in balance
of who he is and what he is. That's what
it feels like, you know, to me. And and I
(45:13):
think that the team is always going to be looked
at as the bad guy when the player ends up leaving.
But that doesn't mean that Clay's feelings aren't validated, and
that maybe the Warriors could have tried to have gone
the extra mile or to have done something to make
things at least remotely better instead of making the final
year of his contract there and being miserable. And I
(45:33):
think a theme that that Jason has pointed out to
put words in is Klay Thompson finally felt wanted for
the first time in a while, and that was it
was a way to you know. And now he goes
to Dallas and as you know, this new life and
this new feeling and being reinvigorated.
Speaker 2 (45:48):
And that's the thing we can also, I think both
sides can have a valid point, and both both sides
can be accurate in what they're doing and how they're
attacking it. But that leaves the story to the individual again, right,
And so if the feeling that you feel is an
accurate feeling towards for inside of you and what you feel,
(46:10):
then you go out and you do what you did
with Clay. Like Clay went to another team, he has
a chance to prove himself again and I'm sure he'll
be motivated, and you know, we will probably probably see
the best version of Clay and that's a good thing.
And the Gold and the Wars will be fine. They'll
pivot and try to put a competitive team out there
and you know, not seem to overpay in their minds,
(46:30):
and both teams will live on after that. You know.
Speaker 3 (46:33):
Play's in that unique spot where curries to Superstar and Greens,
like the guy that you love to hate, you know,
but like the welcoming like STEP's always going to be
welcome with open arms with Golden State. But whenever Clay
does return like that, ovation is going to be off
the charts. Yes, and then when he's retired, it's going
to be off the charts as well, because he carved
out his own and they look at his trials and
(46:56):
tribulations and what he went through.
Speaker 2 (46:58):
It really sucks.
Speaker 3 (46:59):
And I think that Steph Curry knows it, and Draymond
Green knows I think Steve Kerr knows it. Yeah, you know,
and and and you also you also had a change
in front office. You know, Bob Myers isn't there. Mike
Dunleavy Jr. Now taking over, So there are other decisions
that maybe you thought were good and maybe Steve Kerrs
like this is all that I can, you know, help with,
And Joe lacub And Mike Dunlevy Jr. Now have their
(47:20):
own vision for how it's going to go. I mean,
there's just a lot that plays in But by the way,
all of Klay Thompson's feelings one hundred percent valid.
Speaker 1 (47:27):
Yes, they are what in the world is a player
enhancement coach.
Speaker 3 (47:32):
The he's the guy who enhances players. Yeah, that would
be the Uh, yes, that's definition. You know what I
think this is. I think this is a mending offenses.
Kemba never should have left Charlotte, knowing what we now
know after he left as a free agent, and maybe
this is a way.
Speaker 2 (47:49):
To welcome him back. He truly is.
Speaker 3 (47:52):
I mean, there hasn't been a lot of great Charlotte
Hornet's history, at least of this most recent crew. Kemba
Walker is part of that history. So maybe this is
just a way of them making up a job and
bringing Kemba Walker back within the organization.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
Now on, let's find a way to get Kimbo on
the payroll. Right, what about player enhancement coach? That sounds
pretty good. There.
Speaker 3 (48:15):
He's the perfect example of maybe just the grass isn't
necessarily greener. Both he and the Hornets were not better
off without each other. They may not have went out
to win an NBA title, but things would have been
better if you would have stuck around.
Speaker 2 (48:27):
They would have not won a title ever. No, no,
but when he was there and he was dynamic, yes so,
and the.
Speaker 3 (48:35):
Places that he went didn't work out as much as
he would have hoped. No player enhancement coach.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
Yeah, I'm going to find out what that means instead
of ped Yeah, let's not get close to that. That
can be a step up, man, Brian.
Speaker 3 (48:48):
Yeah, Brian Finley has got a big occasion coming up
in a little over a week.
Speaker 2 (48:55):
Marrin. Yes, he still has time to say no. He
has a little time.
Speaker 1 (49:00):
She has time to say no. Yeah, So I'm not
exactly sure how to go about that. One of the
biggest things, guys is trying to get the number down
on who is actually gonna show up, because people will
say in your face, oh.
Speaker 6 (49:11):
Yeah, I'm gonna come.
Speaker 1 (49:12):
I'm definitely gonna be there at the wedding, and then
you hear from somebody else, ah, yeah, we can't make it.
We couldn't do this, we couldn't do that. And then
you know, like we're we have to pay for as
many people, so we're supposed to come as whoever that
is that number. So that's always the fun part.
Speaker 3 (49:28):
I'll tell you what, Brian, I want you to mull
on this and you're gonna get us an answer at
the end of the break. Would you want Carrie Rhodes
to sing at your wedding. Okay, thank you, he's already
got that. I'll tell you why when we get back. Okay, Yeah,
he's Brian Fanlan. It's Carry Roads. I'm Dan Byer. Jason
Stewart's here Iowa. Sam is here as well. Don't worry, Sam,
We've got some Caitlyn Clark talk coming up here on
(49:50):
Cavino and Rich. Yeah, we're gonna talk about the sharpshooter
from Indiana. Coming up a bit later on in the program.
Carrie's got a bit of a dilemma we are going
to try to work through and hopefully we can help
him find his pitch. He's Carry Roads. Fina met Carrie
twenty five Roads. You can find me at Dan Byro
on Fox. That's next here on Fox Sports Radio.
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