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Sports radio. Let's rock now, we have lots to get
to today. Old school. When fifty hits, like we do
every Thursday, we throw it back and we reminisce, and
let's just say it involves a major debut, a major
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league debut that happened years ago and changed history. We
discussed that. We talk debuts, memorable debuts. Cam Newton and
Christian McCaffrey are in the news. We're gonna break that down.
Talk a little weddings. But man, I walked in today,
Rich I heard I walked in today, and I was like,
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what is going on? Is our good pal, Isaac Lowencron,
who's on the updates? He was blowing a gasket. I
don't know what that means. I heard his head was
spinning around. Yeah, no, yeah, like I saw steam coming
out of his ears. He was so mad. And he goes,
and you know, when you just politely asked somebody, hey, man,
how's it going? He's like, well, I did I tell you?
(02:02):
I was like, what's going on? Man?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Everything? You're right?
Speaker 1 (02:05):
And you know what, when he told me the story,
I understood, No, it all made sense, it really did.
He goes, You know, Paul skeens, I'm like, of course,
everybody knows Paul Skins. We talked about him yesterday.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
I'm more familiar with his fiance. I'm sorry his girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Oh yeah, everybody, as you know, going.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Back to LSU Libby done. But this guy's living the life.
You mentioned him yesterday saying no one's living a better
life right now than Paul Skeens.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
We said yesterday. If you missed it, checked the podcast
Covino and Rich. Who's had a better twelve months than
this guy? Right College World series? He made his debut,
He's like it up, hot girlfriend, all start done, hot girlfriend,
hot girlfriend, and then as of today a great mustache,
A vote with his hot girlfriend. But as of today,
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get this, the year gets even better. His girlfriend got hotter.
Everybody's working, everybody's living their life. You may have missed.
If you're on your way home, here's the update. He
twenty two years old, rookie pitcher is throwing a no
hitter through seven, no hitter through seven against Melia Walker,
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ninety nine pitches in eleven strikeouts, and they yank him,
they pull him out of the game, And I don't
want to. I don't want to steal Isaac's thunder. So
I'm gonna let him express his disdain. But we got
a clip from the manager, right, Danny, g Let's take
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a listen as to why they pulled out Paul Skeins
from his no hitter.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
He was tired.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
It really didn't have anything to do with the pitch count.
Everybody makes it about pitch counts. It was about where
he was at. It was about trusting your eyes, trusting him.
When I went and talked to him after that, I
mean he was tired. They did a good job of
wearing him down, and I mean he gave us everything
he had.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
That's Derek Shelton, Pirates manager. So now you know he
was tied. But there's a lot of fun facts surfacing today.
Courtesy of Bursch, one of our master editors and producers. Here,
Paul Skins threw one hundred plus pitches thirteen times at
LSU last season, topping out at one hundred and twenty
(04:16):
four in a complete game versus two lane. Apparently he's
throwing over one hundred and twenty pitches a bunch of times.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
I mean recently, we're talking about all those wild stats
that came out where Nolan Bryan would throw two hundred
and forty pitches and then five days later throw one
hundred and eighty pitches. I get it. It's not the
seventies or eighties anymore, but a rookie star that's electrifying
the baseball world. You don't let this guy go out
for the eighth. Maybe he gets a quick eighth inning
(04:43):
under ten pitches, a little bing bang boom, and then
he could go out for the ninth. You pull him
at ninety nine in the seventh.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Yeah, that's tough, man, And everybody pirates, fans especially, but
baseball fans want to see greatness. Want to see this
young kid do something cool. Want to see a legend
in the making. Right, So, like I said, I walked
in Lowan Crowns like, oh, and.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
This is the problem with baseball. I want to hear.
I want to hear from Isaac is he yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:10):
Standard, let's uh, let's welcome the one of the greatest
update guys in the game. What do you mean one
of Well, because I don't want to disrespect anybody else,
but you know what, what's wrong with that screwball flaring?
I hear the greatest Isaac Lowancron.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
That is a nice haircut, you know by the way,
Thank you man. Sorry I failed to mention that earlier.
Speaker 6 (05:30):
First, I'm trying to kiss up so he'll call you tycoon.
Speaker 5 (05:34):
First of all, I dispute what you guys just played
of manager Derek Shelton because his last inning, the bottom
of the seventh inning, he retired the Brewers on a
grand total of six pitches. So that completely negates that argument,
and he wasn't laboring, yes, six pitches, and it, unfortunately,
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is another example of the bigger picture issue here. This
is a reason that baseball is continuing to lose popularity nationally.
I was mentioning it to Camino Rich when we were
growing up and somebody was going to the ninth inning
with a no hitter. ESPN would always cut live to
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that game no matter what, and it was a cool thing.
And that's because baseball was a lot more popular back
then than it is now. And I'll just conclude with
one final thought. This tweeted by someone named cam and
I think it's representative of literally how all Pirates fans
and baseball fans are feeling. I think I speak for
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everyone in Pirates Nation when we say, bleep you, Derek Shelton,
Are you absolutely kidding me. He just pitched a six
pitch inning. I hate this man more than anything. Bleeping
rob us of one thing we can cheer about in
the last ten bleeping years. Bleeping bleep you unquote.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, you know, and you're stealing a moment from this kid.
This is how legends are made. Isaac did express too.
This is why baseball is no longer America's pastime. It
dropped the ball. It failed to allow this moment to happen.
We're rob his fans. So there's a lot of speculation
back and forth. There's a lot of people that agree
with Isaac, but if you look through social media, Rich
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and take the temperature, there's also a lot of people
that are like, you know, he's twenty two years old.
You know, let him blow his arm out, you let
him keep going like it's not worth it. It's not worth it.
Save this kid and save his career. So we open
up the phones and we break it down eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. But Rich, it gets a
little worse too, because they bring in Colin Holderman right
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and after his second pitch, no hitter broke and Jake
Bowers hits a single. The dude works himself into bases
loaded jam. The Pirates end up winning. Like I said,
one nothing over the Brewers. But this dude lets up
to no hitter at his second pitch, so.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
Physical felt like Dave Roberts put him in.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Yeah, right, Is this how baseball loses in the big picture?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Dany G.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Man?
Speaker 6 (08:07):
You're a big baseball fan. No, I don't like this either.
And the great Tommy John, the Tommy John the surgery
was named after him. He was on the Fifth Hour
podcast with Ben Mallor. I booked him. It was a
couple of years ago, and he said he swore up
and down that he had a healthier arm when he
threw more, not less. So he questioned resting pictures nowadays.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I gotta make it trust the guy whose arm is.
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Well but rich, he said, when he came back from
that surgery, that's how he was able to keep going
and keep the momentum for himself was because he kept
his arm loose by throwing a lot. He said. Whenever
he had too much time off, that's when he had
injuries get tight.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
And I get it. Yeah, I could see that.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
I want to make it clear too. Again.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Cavino I think this is weak. I really do. I
think this is the weakest you got to put yourself
in in in uh, in perspective of imagine if this
was your team, this is your team, and you got
a historical moment about to happen, how fired down are
you gonna be as a fan?
Speaker 2 (09:12):
There's layers here if you don't mind letting me adulter second.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
For sure, But also imagine if you were at the game.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Well I was. I said, do you mind if I
sit back on a cocktail while we're doing this? I
feel like I want to start the weekend with you
right now, dude.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
I wanted to have like a casual Thursday and start
the weekend early. I didn't expect to come in and
you know, Loan Crowns all fired up got me fired up.
I wanted to relax too.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Does he do it? I hurt? In between updates, he's
doing laps around the hallway.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
Yeah, yeah, I saw punch a hole in the wall.
He threw a chair in between the glass between the
studios building.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
Security has been notified, unfortunately.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
You know that first aid kit that was by the bathroom,
We ripped it off the wall. They smashed his head
in it.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
The hot yoga manager came in and said he was
making too much noise.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I know from all the huffing and puffin.
Speaker 5 (09:55):
I told him to get bent.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, but you know what I agree.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
It is.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Uh, it's very we We'll take your phone calls. But rich,
I do want to know your thoughts as a lifelong
baseball fan.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well, I mean, Shelton said the eye test. He must
have failed the eye test the way you did last time.
He went to the eye doctor for your eyes I failed.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Yeah, trust your eyes, they said, I have COVID.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I if there's if this guy is saying he was tired,
I mean, you gotta trust the manager, but don't give
me this BS eye test. As Isaac said, six pitches
a quick seventh inning. That's when you give the guy
a chance. It brings up a few points the eye test. Secondly,
do you remember when you'd be watching baseball and this
didn't even cross your mind, because if a guy was
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thrown a no no, it's like, unless he had one
hundred and thirty pitches, there was no doubt he's staying
in the game. It rob's baseball of the no hitter alert.
Like you know when your buddy with text your like, yo,
if you're not watching, I'm not going to say anything,
but put the game on, like like the little hey,
a no no's happening. What's the point if you know
(10:57):
the guy's going to go six. The Mets pitch two
no hitters in their franchise history. One you'll dispute because
you think Santana didn't really throw no hitter.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well, if I'm not mistaken, wasn't it Carlos Peltron who
hit a double? It was a clear double. Now a
foul ball, dude, No, it was. It was a double.
If you listen, I know that Santana got that no hitter,
and I know where you're going, too, rich He was
never really the same after that because he extended himself.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Well that's point one, so you could argue that side.
But the second Mets no hitter, you're thinking to yourself,
what second no hitter? You know why? You don't know
because it was started by Tyler McGill and cleaned up
by like three guys in the bullpen. I think a
bullpen mixmash no hitter is trash. I know it's still
an accomplishment, but you can't tell me it's the same thing. No,
(11:46):
I refuse to acknowledge. Like if if Skeen's was dealing
and he threw nine innings no hitter domination over ten strikeouts,
that's history. If Skeens pitches seven even at the bullpen
cleaned up those two innings, that said loses its pizzazz
with Isaac's right in that it's robbing you of what
a no hitter was a special moment for one guy
(12:09):
that the sun was shining on him that day.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's over, and like I said, a historic moment for
a young superstar where the casual fan comes up to
you at the barber shop and he's like, oh, you
heard about this guy.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Paul Skean's no hitter. Huh twenty two years old.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
It stole a moment from everybody basically needs that.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
It's a joke because Skeens is the most popular young dude.
Like we joke about Levy Donald his hawk girlfriend. Oh
did you hear about his hot girlfriend? But this guy
is a legit cy young candidate, Rookie of the Year, candidate,
everything candidate. I mean, the guy's got a sweet mustache,
sweet girlfriend. He's living the life. We talked about it
at nauseum the other day, how Paul Skeins is the man,
you know what, It made him even more than man Cavino.
(12:51):
I don't know, starting off his baseball career with a
no no. That just adds to this guy's hype. And
we say nah, Shelton says nah.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
We'll probably play that clip again. But I really think
that Shelton was just doing damage control and just beating
the reporters to the punch. You really think that Paul
Skeins and Paul Skeanes won't debate this because he's a
young player and he's gonna respect his manager. You really
think Paul Skins was like coach and I don't know
if I can go out there for the eighth I'm tired, dude.
(13:26):
These guys are our fierce competitors. You know this kid
wanted the ball. I'm not buying it at all.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Filling the blank, Covino, because I know you and I
share brains. Sometimes there's a classic moment Red Sox are
coming to mind. I think it's the rocket, Yep, it's
the rocket. Roger Clemens. Okay, do you remember mac namara
back in the eighties insisted that I pulled Clemens because
he said, yeah, coach, I'm done, and then Clemens is like, yeah, no, dude,
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I didn't say that. Nonsense like, so you could tell
me all day. I don't think Paul Skein's if you're
a competitor at his level, you think he wants to
come out of the game with a no hitter.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
No way, no way, That's what I'm saying. What Shelton
said was damage control and straight up bs in my opinion.
And again just to make it clear, because not everybody
big baseball fans, but you would have heard about this
if it happened. Paul Skeen's last twelve months, College World Series, champion,
College World Series Most Outstanding Player, recipient of the Dick
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Kwser Trophy, number one overall pick MLB All Star, hot
girlfriend Livy Dunn, and would have had a potential no
hitter today talk about a year. But they robbed him
of this, of this icing on.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
The cake, the Dick trousers awe, the Dick Howser Trophy.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Oh okay, no, no, no, that's that's a truth. That's
an a word I won back in the early two thousands.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Rich Yes, sorry, all right, let's go to the phone.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Let's say what's up eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox at Coven Know and Rich. If you want to
chime in on social media, you want to start with
Buck in Cincy.
Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yeah, let's go to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Hey Buck, Hey, how's it going? Hey buddy, what's up?
Speaker 7 (15:11):
Well? I think that this is just a symbol of
the nanny state society we live in, helicopter parents and
all of that. And you know, I'm from Cincinnati where
we had the great Vandermere just remembered for one thing,
throwing two back to back no hitters, And I think
to rob this opportunity from Schemes, who seems like a
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marvelous young man even though he plays for the Pirates,
is really its travesty.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
And he has that sort of workhorse, lumbering, big lug
of a players sort of vibe and mentality about him.
He's got some little dude who might throw his arm out.
It's like, you know, I want to see this guy
go for him. Plus have you seen his girlfriend? Plus
his girlfriends? Really, let me let me.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Tell you, you know, caim, you know, robbing not just Schemes.
I really, I really honestly feel this way robbing the
baseball world of a moment, because what do we always
say about baseball? You and I love it. We played
it as a kid. I'm in my hometown. You know
what I did today. I passed a little league field
that I played on as a kid, and I told
my daughter, like, that's what daddy learned how to play baseball.
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I love baseball. You love baseball? Say we always talk
about our love of the game, but you know what
we always, in that same breath say, yeah, you know
they're lacking those big stars and we have one in
our hands.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
He brought up something else. You brought up something else.
You know, from a child's perspective growing up, you remember
where you were when Dave Getty pitched his no hitter,
when Dwight Gooden threw a no no David cohne, I'm
not even all Yankees, David Cohn had a perfect game.
You remember those things? You robbed the younger generation, the kid,
the player they're all hyped about. I got his.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Baseball card, I got his autograph.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
The little kids in that in that world are so
pumped about Paul Skins, And you rob these kids of
this awesome moment that they'll never forget, you know, that's
how you build lifelong face. That's the problem. That's where
Isaac is right.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
It's also how you build superstars. And like I said,
we we have a young star that this didn't do
him any favors. Listen, you some people may say, who cares.
At the end of the day, there's one hundred and
sixty two long games. But you know, it would have
been a pretty cool, little, uh, little thing for him
to do in the first half of the baseball season
where he's, like I said, rookie of the Year candidate,
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say young candidate.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
No, no, yep, uh. Let's talk to Dean in Iowa City.
What up, Dean?
Speaker 8 (17:29):
What's going on?
Speaker 7 (17:30):
Guys?
Speaker 2 (17:31):
Nothing?
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Man, just trying to break it down because there is
a back and forth on social media, a lot of
disappointed fans, but there's a lot of people like, well,
what do you expect? Of course, take him out, he's
a young guy. Your thoughts, Well, I.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Can understand both sides. But at the same time, I'm
looking at this from a systems perspective. How many innings
Z throw last year in college?
Speaker 6 (17:51):
What's it?
Speaker 8 (17:52):
You know, what's his top innings he's ever thrown? And
you know is he is he going to be pushing
that near the end of the year. You know, there's
there's more considerations than just God, you really wanted to
see a no hitter, that'd be great.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He threw one hundred plus pitches thirteen times at LSU
last season, topping out at one twenty four in a
complete game versus TWU Lane. He also, yeah, he throws
over one hundred pitches several times, you.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
Know in the bigs though. He's right, You're you're throwing
thirty five to thirty five ish starts wearing college like
nowhere close to that. So I get that maybe, like, hey,
it's a young dude, to ease him in.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
He threw one hundred and twenty two innings last season
for LSU.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Yeah, so it's it is about half of what you
would want out of an ace. Right, you want your
you want your you want your inning. Eaters in top
end of the rotation gouts to give you at least
two hundred innings. Right, let's go to Art in Vegas?
What up Art?
Speaker 7 (18:45):
Hey, how's it going, guys?
Speaker 2 (18:47):
It's going good man? Good Man?
Speaker 8 (18:49):
Hey, just want that I love the show, and I
want to preface this with I'm a Milwaukee Bird fan,
and they had no business pulling him out of the game.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
My goodness, you guys nailed the comment about how.
Speaker 8 (18:58):
ESPN needs to cut it the no hitters and it
would transcend the fan base. That's how we got to
know other people before interleague sports, et cetera. It was
the fast. Yeah, I really appreciate.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
You, thank you, appreciate you. And Cavino. Our buddy Wes,
who listens on Fox Sports Radio in Vegas, said, dude
throws over one hundred in entire start, and you're not
going to give this guy the opportunity after seven when
he's at ninety nine pitches, like you're telling me that
there is no nudging where it'd be like, oh come on,
(19:30):
come on, yo, skip coach. Let me go out there
in the eighth. If I get in trouble, yank me.
If I give up a hit, a walk, pull me,
but give me a shot.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
It was his day, man, it was his day, clearly.
Eleven strikeouts through seven ninety nine pitches. They yanked him,
and Rich I'm glad our last caller. You know, he
said he's a Brewers fan. He was watching and they
had nothing. He was surprised It's also different when you're
watching it right, Like we walked into this news like
wait what no way. But if you're w and you
(20:00):
see him grooving, that's disappointing.
Speaker 2 (20:02):
Man.
Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's a whole different perspective when you realize how this
guy was grooving the whole game took him out.
Speaker 2 (20:09):
Week.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
I'm standing my ground. I see the other side. I
get the other side of it. But weak, grooving, grooving, grooving, man,
he was grooving. He was grooving. This is why baseball
loses more feedback, more phone calls. And of course we
got this Cam Newton story. We gotta get to so
oh yeah, b this this Cam Newton story. I think
(20:31):
it's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
So Cam always makes me laugh most of the time.
I agree with him, and I may disagree with him again.
So hank Ty, we'll talk from Cam and McCaffrey will
go old school with a major League Baseball debut from
the history books and a bunch more. It's Friday, it
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a day where we.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Could have seen a no hitter, but a day where
we reminisce over you, a day we throw it back,
and we'll do that when we talk old school in
fifty hits in about twenty minutes. Yeah, buddy, we tell
you about this legend. You may have heard of this legend.
I think you've heard of him. Actually, didn't you, Rich?
(23:04):
Didn't you have an autographed baseball of this legend? And
some dog got a hold.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Of it, the neighbors dog. Yeah, terrible story, Rich.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
One of his hats and he wore it during a little.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
Is that what it was?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
I knew there was a story about this legend anyway,
on this day, this legend of baseball made his debut.
We're gonna talk other famous debuts, but Paul Skeen's was
robbed of a legendary moment. You're right in the world
of baseball, and that's why baseball loses. Now, if you
have other things you want to say about Paul Skeen's
and the potential no hitter robbed, he does have a girlfriend.
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We've established that you can hit us up at Covino
and Rich on social media. And another quick reminder, Rich,
we're live from the Tireck dot com studios and as
soon as this shows over today since it's getting late
early like mister Furley, we have over promised debut of
speaking to debuts of a new episode our bonus podcast
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where I think we're going to talk about NFL celebrity
fans because I don't think we'll have time for that
today and travel baseball. We mentioned how is tearing families apart?
When we were filling in for the herd, and it
got a lot of people chirping on.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Our social media pages.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
Some people were like, yeah, it is man, all the
pressures of travel sports is too much on families, too
hard on families, and those other people are like, that's bs.
So we're going to talk about that and umpires believe
it or not, on over, promised Fox Sports Radio's YouTube
page immediately after this show.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
Now I'm in New York. I told you I actually
speaking of baseball. Walk past my little league field, and
if you ever get the chance, if you go to
your hometown, do it once, because it'll bring back all
these memories. You're like, oh my god, I hit my
first home run on this field. I remember pitching on
this field. It's just a pretty cool memory. So if
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you are in your hometown past the old football field
or baseball field or whatever you played on, it really does.
It'll get your brain going, It really will. It's special,
it really is. Think of all the moment you had,
could you know at union little league field?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
I'm sure, I mean twenty seven little league home runs? Yeah,
I want to relive all those In fact one day, Rich,
did you stare at the mound and reminisce about that time.
You could have had a no no, but you were
yanked in the seventh. Yes, Now in Little League you
were yanked in the fourth. I know, yeah in the fourth,
ah man. So anyway, let's talk Cam Newton. You say
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you always get a good laugh at a good Cam
Newton story. Is it the stories or the hats that
he wears? I saw a real funny one. It was
like a mix of a fez and like a he
was wearing like a fez, but it had like a
strap around it, like like he was the the grand
marshal of a pre major. Yeah, like a drum major hat.
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Drum major. Now, what's the kind of hat is that
he wears? The hats he always all kind of crazy
hats man.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Well, that is a good story. This is a great
story and involves Cam Newton and Christian McCaffrey. And this
is as you call you know, you sometimes just say
it's a double doozy because there's like two questions to
be had. This is three questions I have here. Now.
Cam Newton was on his podcast, because everyone's got a podcast,
and he was talking about not getting the invite to
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Christian McCaffrey's wedding. Take a listen.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
About out to the McCaffrey's man Christian and oh.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
No, hold on, time to not look damn see, Matt,
I couldn't get an invite. I know, what is it
because of the bron praiody of people was brock there.
But you want to back you meto.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Man, you know the man you're like y'all wasn't there
because I would have crashed him.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
I would have crashed it. Man, Oh my god, that
I had to have so much fun?
Speaker 1 (26:59):
Man, is that like an inviting your ex girlfriend to
the wedding? Heah, it's his ex quarterback, that's part quarterback.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Well then McCaffrey responded or somehow you know, you did
see on social media that McCaffrey said he hadn't heard
from Cam Newton in like four years. He hadn't responded
to any of his texts or dms. I think they
had a little bit of a back and forth after
as a result, right on Instagram, and he said Instagram
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doesn't count. Dude hasn't texted me. Cam Newton's like, what
number you got? But the point is Cam hadn't responded
in four years. To McCaffrey's texts. So if you don't
talk to that person, Question number one, can you be
mad if you weren't invited to the wedding? Now, I'm
not saying that cam Newton was mad about it. It sounded
like he was having fun, sounded like he wished he
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was there, but he wasn't.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
If you haven't talked to one of your old school
buddies in years, I think there's like a couple year
you know, statute of limitations like yo, if we haven't
even hit each other up or bsked about something, I
don't know if that person gets a wedding invite, even
if especially if you're trying to keep the wedding invite
list tight. So that's number one. Number two, if you
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find out someone's getting married and you're not invited, or
even if you can't go for that matter, do you
still send a gift?
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Well, if you're not invited, hal to the nah. But
if you were invited and you can't make it, it's isn't
it supposed to be standard that you still owe them
a gift? Isn't that like proper anteqette? Yes, you don't
even want to talk about how much you're paying for
a plate, right, because that's regionally different. People's head spin
when we suggest at least one hundred per plate.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
At least I was taking two hundred.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Yeah, with shrinkflation and inflation, yeah, maybe at least one
hundred and fifty minimum.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
I don't know. I made a reference to giving my
niece five hundred dollars for her graduation, and people made
it sound like I was Travis Kelty spending three million
on a suite.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Like regional differences, I get it. So again, Cam Newton
hadn't responded to Christian McCaffrey's texts in four years, so
they haven't really communicated. Seemed a little butt hurt being
playful about it. Do you owe a gift?
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Still?
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Would it be a nice gesture if Cam sent him
one of his goofy hats. Here's a hat you could wear,
You know that that'd be nice. You know, I think
it'd be nice. There's been plenty of times, for whatever reason,
I wasn't able to make friends' weddings, and I have
sent gifts just I don't want to say that of guilt,
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just out of etiquette, just out of etiquette, Like I
appreciate the invite, but I can't make it to your
destination wedding or whatever. Here's a gift. And you know,
I don't think you have to go overboard when you're
not even there, but just a little something to say
you appreciate it and to keep the friendship going. It's
all about friendship maintenance too. And that's why I think
Cam Newton failed. He failed his friendship maintenance with Christian
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McCaffrey and vice versa. Well, that's when you find out
are we work friends or real friends exactly? Yeah, that's
the truth. Yeah, and you know what, by the way, there's.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
A great cheapskate hack. I'm surprised you haven't brought this
up since you're the king of cheapskate hacks.
Speaker 1 (30:17):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
Oh, if you are getting married, invite all the rich
people you work with and all like the like. Think
of just send out a bunch of invites to like
rich people. Their secretary or assistant might just by nature
be like, oh, he can't make it or she can't
make it.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
Here's a couple hundred bucks. Yeah, I'm gonna do that
to all the bosses here at Fox for sure. If
I if I get a lope or get married or
something for sure. By the way, Rich in a side note,
today's my anniversary with my girlfriend starting to feel the heat.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well, i'd imagine you've been together seven years.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
Yeah, according to the not which is pretty much the
the site for weddings.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Oh, isn't that the site that Cavidill tell his girlfriend
to go to, which she said, when are we getting married?
He's like not good? Not good one good one good one, rich?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (31:08):
Wedding gift etiquette generally encourages sending a gift even if
you can't attend. However, the decision is ultimately up to you,
so it's like a non answer, but you don't have
to Yeah, but then are you ready?
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Frank?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It's nice and that's what it says, depending on your relationship.
Like if a random work colleague is like, you're invited
to my wedding.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Cool.
Speaker 1 (31:26):
You don't have to send something, though, even though you
have to see that person every day. But if you
are close friends family with that person, you technically should.
Speaker 2 (31:33):
You know what it is though.
Speaker 1 (31:34):
It's a great reminder or indicator I guess of where
you guys really stand in your relationship, because hey, I
thought of you enough to invite you right, but you
didn't even show up or give me a gift, so
I guess you don't feel the same way about our
friendship and relationship. And even here in this story, I
think it's very clear that cam Newton and Christian McCaffrey
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aren't as tight as they once were, and that that
is proven now Rich and my opinion to be just
a work relationship. They had camaraderie in the locker room,
but it stayed there and ended there. It's Rich. I
think you can attest to if there anyone that's been
married the like Rich. You got married how long ago?
Twelve years?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Man, the period of time in which you get married.
The people that you invited to your wedding today, you
most like half of them, if not more, would not
be invited to if you got married today.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
We my wife and I had one hundred and fifty
people at our wedding. I'd say fifty of those one
fifty would be different.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
People exactly like work, your work setting changes, People come
and go. You're not seeing people on the on a
regular basis like family comes, you know, so it's like
it would be completely different in that capacity. Rich, would
you invite Greg Olsen to your wedding because that dude parties.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
Well, could I read the could I read the interaction,
the interaction with Olson and McCaffrey, just to you know,
give it the scoop. This is what McCaffrey put on
social media. He wrote me talking to Greg olsaid at
the bar, this was a great knife. But you know
what made it even better? Greg? What me if Cam
were here? I haven't got a text back in four years?
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In fact, they just go green now. Greg takes a
sip of whiskey. He would have loved it four years
even on Instagram. Me only once, but that doesn't count. Christian,
why don't he love me? Man? Camera cuts to Cam
and Christian together while arms wide open, plays by crete.
That's ncc.
Speaker 6 (33:33):
He sounds like a funny dude.
Speaker 1 (33:34):
That is funny man, And it would have been cool
to have Cam Newton here. I'm sure he seems like
a really fun dude. But they hadn't kept in touch.
So again, if you don't talk, can you be mad
if you weren't invited?
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Side nugget?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
I think if you communicate through Instagram that counts. I
do think that counts. Now, do you give a gift
a gift. I think the answer is yes.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Now the spot you always say this, and this is
a a good loophole, spot Away, says well Edikott also
says you have a calendar year to give the couple.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
If that is actually correct, I mean I don't think
couples necessarily adhere to that. Hey, by the way I
used this, I've used this rule in my real life
because some of the times I didn't attend other people's
weddings because that was broke right. And you also so like,
I'll get I'll get around to that gift. I got
a year, right, Like, if you're not really confident in
the couple, feel free to use this because they may
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be broken up within that year period. But yeah, it's
I think etiquette states that you have up to a
year to send a gift, which in twenty twenty four
is also ridiculous because you should be able to like
Venmo your wedding gift card.
Speaker 2 (34:41):
It do you think it's classy or is it not
classy to tell your buddy like, YO can just venmo
you instead of getting you a card?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Venmot Our buddy Jeff Edstrom who got married, we couldn't
make his wedding I'm sure he didn't mind at all.
And we have a question you can think about it.
Can you bring someone that the brider groom had isn't
met And this a whole story. We're gonna get to it.
We got more Covino and Rich, but first an update
from Isaac Lowencroft. The angry Lowancroft, the angry Lowencross.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
Yeah, speaking of weddings, potential Major League Baseball history was
left at the altars at arms. Pittsburgh Pirates rookie Paul
Skeens had a no hitter going through seven innings at
Milwaukee with eleven strikeouts. He thrown only ninety nine pitches,
but was still pulled from the game. The reliever who
replaced him immediately allowed a single to lead off the
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bottom of the eighth inning. Pirates did go on to
win the game one nothing. For a sampling of how
fans out there feel about manager Derek Shelton's decision to
pull Skeens, let me look at the mentions on Shelton's
Twitter account. Here's one from at Johnny two Times, who
posted as Shelton and I quote, You're a joke. I'd
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come to every game and sit behind the dugout to
bleep on your parade. You suck as manager. I seen
a little league coach do a better job than you.
Speaker 6 (36:04):
Loser.
Speaker 5 (36:05):
Dwebote at Johnny two times, weighing in and soccer. The
Athletic report of the Jurgen Klop has turned down the
US Soccer Federation, which was interested in hiring him as
the new head coach of the US men's national team. Finally,
guys in the NFL, there was a celebrity golf event
in Reno, Nevada today and New York Jets quarterback Aaron
Rodgers did a brief interview with an outfit called Vegas
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Sports Today. Rodgers was originally asked about Raiders offensive coordinator
Luke Getsy, but then said of Davante Adams and I quote,
I can't wait to play with him again.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
Unquote.
Speaker 5 (36:41):
Listen, do you think Luke Getsy's going to utilize Davante
Adams good in the new Raiders offense?
Speaker 4 (36:47):
I love lou Getzy, He's a fantastic coach, awesome, and
I love Davante. I can't wait to play with him outside.
Yeah great, I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Yeah all right, fellas, back to you.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Thank you. Isaac Low and cron Now we're live from
the Tyre Studios and when we return, we'll wrap up
this wedding talk. But we got old school and fifty hits.
Next on the Coveno on Rich Show, Welcome back to
the show Thursday. That feels like a Friday, Yeah, buddy,
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probably because we won't be here tomorrow, I know, and
next week. Just letting you know, out of respect and courtesy,
because we love you. Fox Sports Radio Nation Covino and
Rich Steve Covino, Rich Davis in New York and we'll
get back to that wedding talk. We'll get back to
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because there's other stories to tell. Mike Evans is even
involved in a wedding story today.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Let me tell you. I've been in New York for
twelve hours. I've already had three bagels and I ordered
pizza for after the show, So I am already in
glutton mode. And by the way, you know why Cam
could have go to the wedding. You know who took
his invite?
Speaker 6 (37:54):
Who?
Speaker 2 (37:55):
Shane Gillis. Comedian Shane Gillis is there and he has
one of my favorite new theories. You heard this. He said,
if you order pizza tell me if you agree with this.
He said he likes to grab a slice and eat
it standing up before he even sits down and hopes
that no one sees it that way. He could then
grab a plate and be like, oh, I grab two.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
Three, that's it. I got I got it. I get it.
But you still feel like a slob regardless. But anyway, hey,
look at the time.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
If there's a certain.
Speaker 6 (38:26):
What we gonna do is go back.
Speaker 10 (38:30):
Back into time, throwing it back. For a Thursday, Old
School went fifty hits. That's fifty after CNR give you
the time capsule topic and we reminisce together.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Yeah, so every Thursday we reminisce. We're reminiscing like the
Little River Bands. We throw it back and we get
you involved. Most interactive show on radio eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox at Covino and Rich on social
Media at Fox Sports Radio. On this day, Rich, you
know what you're on this day?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Boy?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Do you want to make the announcement?
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Rich loves on to day? I love on this day?
I have two could I give you the other one?
On this day? In nineteen sixty seven, it was the
debut of The Newlywed Show, which is when we all
started saying making Whoopie, But that's not what we're talking about. Whoopie,
whoop great show, great game.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
But also on this day, July eleventh, nineteen fourteen, Oh
Babe mother fin Rude made his MLB debut pitching for
the Boston Red Sox against the Cleveland Naps at Fenway Park. Ruth,
nineteen years old, was the winning pitcher in his debut.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
Thirty seven hot dogs.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
Before the game, he had thirty seven hot dogs, but
he fizzled at.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
The play three women in the bleachers.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
He allowed eight hits, two runs, three women in the bleachers,
and posted one strikeout, didn't walk a batter. Bye. Made
history on this day, all those years ago, George Harrison's style,
So Babe Ruth made his debut and changed the game forever.
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Man the great Bambino on this day. Wait, they're the
same guy. They're the same guy. So based on that, Yeah,
we asked this question Fox Sports Radio Nation your most
memorable debuts. But guess what doesn't have to be in sports.
It could be a TV show, it could be a
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rock band, it could be just a memorable debut. A
memorable debut that comes to mind for you could be anything.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
Well, there's one. See, do you want to go random
or obvious? Where which way you going first? It doesn't
matter to me. I'm gonna go one obvious. One. You
might not know because you remember this because it was
not that long ago. Trevor Story's debut. Guy hit two
home runs in his first two at bats, and if
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you remember, he had like a great first week or
so where he was like just hitting everything. So Trevor's
story comes to mind, and uh, there is one in
the acting world that you might not realize. This was
the person's first ever role. I'll let you know what
that is and we'll go over all the greatest debuts
a La Babe Ruth one hundreds something years ago next
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year on Fox Sports Radio