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August 14, 2024 39 mins

Dan and Monse in for C&R as they discuss Aaron Judge and Caitlin Clark, who is more famous and why. Dan and Monse talk about JJ McCarthy's season-ending injury in Minnesota and what the silver lining might be. Dan and Monse tell the unusual story involving the Chiefs' Chris Jones, a criminal and chicken wings.

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hump day, hump day. You got Mansei, you got me,
you got Judge v Clark. We put an end to that.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
It ended yesterday, but sure we'll end it today officially.

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For sure, I dress for a funeral today.

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Your funeral because Aaron Judge and Kaylin Clark discussion.

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Speaker 1 (01:08):
If you missed it yesterday. Monsey was here, Jason was here,
Iowa Sam was here, I was here. Carrie Rhodes was
next to me in studio and the topic of conversation
that came up really started. This was not a Kitlyn
Clark sort of conversation. The conversation actually centered around Aaron

(01:30):
Judge of the New York Yankees because it was all
about John Hayman's peace on how Aaron Judge is underrated.
I found out in the last twenty four hours. I
think he's very underrated from the response that we got
when Jason Stewart pointed out that in recent weeks when
Kitlin Clark showed up to a Yankees game, Aaron Judge

(01:52):
was there to greet her, that Kitlin Clark was the
more popular person in that exchange, and I disagreed, Yes,
what world do we living in that Aaron Judge is
not more popular than Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
That's the one And.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
This is what ensued.

Speaker 6 (02:09):
Hayman writes, numbers wise, analytically wise, and everything else, he
should be considered among the greats, and I don't think
that there. I don't really even dispute that. I think
the big difference is how we regard baseball, especially doing
what we do for a living on a national level.
It just doesn't move the need one anymore. Like a
great example this week, Aaron Judge was in the news.

(02:30):
Do you remember why? Because he was giving something to
Caitlin Clark, a much more famous sports figure in this country.
Shouldn't Aaron Judge be getting gifts when he goes from
city to city?

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Hold On, I don't think Caitlyn Clark. Hold on, hold on,
good use no way, Caitlyn Clark is more popular than
Aaron Judge. No way. I don't even know what metric
I could use when I'm sorry. Aaron Judge number one
has the law longevity, like Caitlyn Clark, has been a

(03:02):
conversation for a true conversation for what eighteen months.

Speaker 7 (03:07):
I'm a Yankee fan two and I believe that Judge
is all the things that we're saying and what you're
saying as well. I just think the explosion of the
women's game and what she did during those times it
kind of unrivals any other thing any other player or
any other sport as well.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
It's interesting that was part of the conversation. I don't
know if you caught it, Monci, but Iowa Sam usually
has this mic on what let's just say, like if
it was an office building, it would be third floor
and it needed some WD forty for how quickly he
pulled the mic down to defend Caitlyn Clark and then

(03:46):
the hot potatoes passed to you and you were ready
to jump in. And it didn't stop there after the
show at night, the name calling towards me. Someone lifted
our video that we don't even know how they got
our video. We have no idea. Because more of our
social push came today with the topic of conversation. It

(04:08):
has been an absolute whirlwind of Kitlin Clark fanatics and
just a very light dusting of Aaron Judge supports on
social media.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
You know, I don't even know if it's Kaitlyn Clark fanatics.
It's the Kaitlin Clark phenomenon, That's what it is. Because
I have a feeling that a lot of people that
chimed in aren't even necessarily Kaitlyn Clark fans. They just
see how popular she is right now, and what's great
for all of our listeners.

Speaker 5 (04:36):
It was not planned.

Speaker 4 (04:37):
I think you derailed your entire plan because of this. Yes,
the entire plan that you and Carrie had was derailed
because of this particular conversation, and so it just became
an interesting one.

Speaker 5 (04:49):
When you really think about it, she is a phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
She is the most popular possibly woman on the planet. Like,
now I want to know it was more popular Kaitlyn
Clark or Taylor Swift.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, it's Taylor Swift, you know, has a bigger, bigger reach.
And this goes back to your Lebron James. Like Lebron
James is more popular than Caitlyn Clark. You would think
so at the Olympics.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
We just saw at the Olympics, Caitlyn Clark was not
at the Olympics and people were wearing our Iowa jersey
and she was not there in Paris.

Speaker 1 (05:23):
It reminds me when I'm in the state of California
where I live, and I see a Wisconsin license plate
and I feel like I see them everywhere, Yeah, that's
where I'm from. When it's in reality, I'm noticing that
one and I'm not noticing all the other ones. So
if you're seeing all these Caitlan Clark jerseys, you're noticing
that maybe you're not seeing the other ones, but there is,
and we're not gonna by the way, this we're not

(05:43):
going to make it a Lebron or Caitlyn Clark conversation.
I agree with you that it is a crazy, crazy phenomenon,
and I didn't deny the popularity as I said, over
the last eighteen months of what Caitlin Clark has brought.
We'll have an update of our poll numbers as well,
But just the fact of the matter is that it

(06:04):
hasn't even been two years and Aaron Judge has been
around for the last six or seven years, been on
top of his game for the biggest brand at all
of baseball, has done some amazing things and doesn't get
any credit for that.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
I don't disagree with that.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I also agree with Jason's stance of like this has
to do with just kind of baseball not being as
popular as other sports.

Speaker 5 (06:30):
I agree with that. I think he doesn't get the
credit he deserves.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
But at the same time, Kayln, Kaylyn Clark is is
her own thing.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
She is on a different level.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, it's just what it is. I'm going to give
you some of the feedback that I've received, Oh.

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Good, to make sure you don't use the bad words.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh yes, I'll try to keep it clean. We even
at a circuit go crazy there what I mentioned, Kaitlyn Clark,
Jason Stewart, do we have an update at all on
our whole question that is close to ending.

Speaker 6 (07:02):
There's still time to vote by forty seven minutes. Forty
seven minutes. We have to get in hundreds and hundreds
of votes. And it's still the exact same percentage as
it was yesterday. Seventy five percent, Caitlin Clark, twenty five percent,
Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
And it kind of reflects what we had in the room.
There were five of us, four of you, eighty percent,
thought Caitlyn Clark, one of us me thought, Aaron Judge.
The twenty percent. That's where it's that's where it's laid out.
This is some of the feedback. Graham tweet ten Dan

(07:39):
Byer is a massive, massive dip bleep. Be a real
shame if Kitlyn FC made him feel the full weight
of CC's motion. I don't even know what I know
what the first sentence meant. I do not know what
the Kitlyn Clark does she have our own football club?
Am I I did not understand? Is that of reality

(07:59):
Katelyn and Clark that I'm not familiar.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I do think that was a Caitlin fanatic. Well, that
one was a Kaitlin fanatic.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Here's uh, there was a there was another one that
told me time has passed me by. It is time
to hang them up. Hold on, hold on so good.
Someone else wrote, uh, dan Byer on Fox not blue
check marked in parentheses. I'm not popular enough and I

(08:28):
haven't purchased it. Not like it's like that you will
get a blue check mark if you are popular enough.
I'm not popular enough. And someone says I'm an average
middle aged woman and have never ever heard of Aaron Judge.
But I love Caitlin Clark. That was your point. That
was my point, and that's I think others as well
of And and if I'm if I'm guilty of looking
at the sports only view and the sports only fact, there,

(08:52):
so be it. But I think that was part of
your point in explaining all of this, when you're texting
your friends, not saying they're middle aged women. No, no,
just a group that maybe isn't in our normal world.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
They are not in our normal world.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
And so I just was like, do you know you
know Aaron Judge Kaylyn Clark, and they all said, we
know who Caitlin Clark is barely, but we have no
idea who Aaron Judge is. I asked a friend and
her husband, who are also not into sports, after my
volleyball game, and I was like, Aaron Judge, Kaitlin Clark,
who are they? And they looked at each other and
they're like, we don't know either.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Oh, maybe that Caitlin. Maybe I've heard Caitlin Clark. And
that was it. But Aaron Judge, Nah, nah.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
If Kaitlin Clark doesn't become the WNBA superstar that we
think that she could.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Be, somebody's gonna have to study that and figure out
where the downfall went because there's no way she is
going to be a small sample size. But we already
have seen her trajectory from the start of the WNBA
season to you know, halfway through it, and now with
the break because she didn't get to go to the Olympics.

Speaker 5 (09:51):
So now with the break, I don't see her now.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I was gonna say, play hypothetical with me, but we
don't even have to play hypothetical because I guess what
you're saying is is long as she's very good is
going to be this popular?

Speaker 5 (10:01):
Yes, mm hmm, yep.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
And that is and that and that may have been
the downfall of others because they weren't as good where
you've had this kind of know would you call it
cosmic rise or maybe even fall considering I mean, the
biggest comparison is Tebo, right, so if if Tim Tebow

(10:27):
was any good in the National Football League, it would
have just continued and continued just that that that comment
just keeps on flying.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Yeah, and that's a comparison.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, I think that's and and that's that is a comparison.
And we'll actually later on on the show, we're going
to kind of try to figure out who are these
other athletes that have had this, But Tebo has been
a name that has been brought up when we've been
talking about Caitlin Clark of having that same effect. To
your point, because that's my point about this is Yaron
Judge has been a great Major League baseball player and
a top Major League baseball player for the last seven seasons.

Speaker 5 (11:03):
And also for the Yankees. Sorry to add that to it.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Hey, I'll take all the help I can get at
all you want for the Judge case. Nick you want
to chime.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
In, Well, I was just gonna say I saw this
poll get posted almost in real time yesterday.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
This is like when you.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Get to election season and the news organizations can call
it like a like, like in November, California will be
called for Joe Biden. The second polls closed, this was
called for Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Almost a meeting, Sam said, this is Reagan Mondale eighty four,
where like, I only win Minnesota.

Speaker 6 (11:38):
But.

Speaker 1 (11:39):
That's Caitlyn Clark.

Speaker 8 (11:42):
Cut isn't Reagan Ducoccus, It was Reagan Mondal.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
I looked at home, so it was eighty four and
Ducaucus was against Bush in eighty eight. But yes, it was,
so you were right on the beginning, Sam, So it
was Reagan Mondale nineteen eighty four. And I know this
because Walter Mondale came to my home hometown for our
Labor Day parade. It was the biggest deal my town
of nine thousand had ever had. But he came to
town in nineteen eighty four. That when the Charlie's Charlie
Daniels band came to town to play, two biggest things

(12:08):
that ever happened in my city. But the point is
it was a complete annihilation. And I think that's what
you're saying in terms of my argument. But if she
is an average WNBA.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Player, the pole just said right now, and so that's
that's what I was reacting to.

Speaker 4 (12:25):
And I did say yesterday, Nick, let's have this conversation
in five years or something.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
Didn't we joke about it perfect what happened? Revisit, revisit this,
But right now.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
This is my calendar. It's too calendar.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
Yes, it's two things.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
I think Jason's point is very well made about just
the current state of where baseball is that the star
of the Yankees just doesn't have as much cloud as
it used to. And I think also on the other
side of it is women's basketball has been steadily building.
You know, they've been building, There's been an undercurrent, it's
gradually gotten more popular, and then Kayln Clark was able

(12:59):
to catapult it. And so this was also something that
we hadn't really seen yet for a sport that hadn't exploded.
So I think it's those two things going together here.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
We have had reasonable takes on this, we've had unreasonable takes. Jason,
you kind of started this whole thing.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
I was thinking when you brought up the fact that
let's play it out. If she becomes an average WNBA player,
which I have a feeling she will be maybe slightly
above average. I think it'll be more like a Dale
junior thing, and that he was always popular even though
he didn't win, because there's just something about him and
his background and his family that he always maintained that

(13:39):
like superstardom over all the other drivers. But this is
on a much different level. I think this is a
worldwide thing. And I want to say that our poll
and what we did in this, you know, in radio
over the last twenty four hours, is a great example
of how dumb the Olympic team is for not including
her on the team. This is the very latest example

(14:01):
of how short sighted and petty they were, right, I.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
Mean, I mean, you may a good point. I yes,
it's true. It's true.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
We were all talking about even if she didn't play,
even she didn't get the minutes, it was good overall
for women's basketball and for team USA.

Speaker 5 (14:21):
It was good. It was good no matter her being
on the team and not playing.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
I needed a break. I needed a Kitlyn Clark.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
You know, maybe she needed the break. Yeah, Like maybe
it was a blessing in disguise for her, for sure.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
I said this because Carrie Roads and I do our
Sunday show, and I said, on Sunday, if TUSA would
have lost, the person I would have felt worse for
is Caitlyn Clark because all of the people who came
out and said she should have been on the Olympic
team would have been right back out. Yeah, and all
those those those players on the Olympic team would go
back to resenting her. And I feel like this this

(14:54):
bridge is being built that they're some mending along the way.
She would have been the biggest victim at all. It
wouldn't have been Asia Wilson. It wouldn't have been Brianna
Stewart or Diana Trossi or Kelsey Plumb, wouldn't have been
any of those players. It would have been Kaitlin Clark
because of what I experienced over the last twenty four hours,
And it would have been nine million times worse for
those players, considering people don't even know what network we're

(15:17):
literally we have a sheet behind us. It is Fox
Sports Radio fifty times and people still can't get it right.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah idiots, Yeah, Well, at least you know you don't
work for ESPN.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Someone tmitted ESPN's Dan Buyer, look, Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports Your Radio, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports hold On, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Media, Sports Radio. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (15:42):
But the problem too is and I don't know if
you guys were aggravated by this ESPN's Dan Byer. Yeah,
and there's no apostrophe. Yeah, of course, come on, where's
the possession in that weet?

Speaker 1 (15:52):
I thought it was ESPNS like it was just the
new channel that they opened, like like ESPN News or
ESPN two. Wasn't the case?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
Well, listen, you were trending people, No, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (16:05):
I was. I was. If anything, I was trending downwards.
I mean, people are saying again that my career is
over for a stupid sports talk segment, and yet here
you are.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
You are.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
I've lived to.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
See another day and defend Aaron Judge, and I still.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
Feel like like, I don't think that the hay is
in the bottom. I don't think this is over with yet.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
No.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
No, And if Caitlin Clark goes on to have the
average career that Jason thinks that she may have, I
think I have a really good case five years from now,
I don't think if she has the career that Manzi says,
I probably don't have a great case. What are we
gonna say? I will, Sam? I mean, what what is average?
Right now?

Speaker 8 (16:42):
She's like on pace to break the w NBA assist
record in a season, and she's already having one of
the greatest WNB rookie seasons of all time.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
You'll know it.

Speaker 8 (16:51):
What do you mean what you'll know what if she's
average or not? But she's not average right now. She's
firm where she is. Why would she go downward? She's
just darting.

Speaker 1 (17:01):
Because because every athlete just continues to get better and
better in their career, every single one. Many days, I
would say many do.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
But but it's unknown. It is unknown territory.

Speaker 8 (17:11):
Sure, that's all. I think she's more inclined to have
an outstanding I agree with you. I don't know where
Jason's getting this, but that's that's fine.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
Unknown.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
I listen, you don't wish injury on anybody always be
a factor catching up different things like like there's there's
all these things. But maybe to your point, Sam, and
I'll give you credit on this because I don't agree
that every player gets better and better. It is most
difficult in a rookie season, and nobody has had more
difficult of a time, probably in their rookie season than
Caitlyn Clark has had. So maybe at the beginning of

(17:40):
the season, but that's not true now. She just I'm
agreeing with you. Why are you disagreeing with you? Why
are you to do this all the time? Sam, I'm
agreeing with you. I am on your side.

Speaker 3 (17:49):
He's very defensive about Iowa.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
I'm just looking at the numbers than the numbers speak
that she's having with the mouse outstanding rookie seasons of
all time, even though she had a bit of a
learning curve at the beginning.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
I think we're getting a little removed from the original question.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
Yes, he'sone's gonna say something. Are you holding back or
are you gonna say something?

Speaker 6 (18:08):
I'm just saying that what made her transformative in college,
she's not doing that on the pro level. So if
she leads the league and assists for the next ten years,
I don't know if that's going to be maybe slightly
above average, but it's going she's not gonna have the
impact on the WNBA that she had in college basketball.
And the question that we're trying to think about, is
is she still going to maintain this popularity even if

(18:29):
she is just like an assist queen for the next
ten years.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
I don't know. Yeah, we don't know. But in Sam
and I don't know if you weren't listening to what
I was saying, was her first two months were more
difficult start to a career than probably anybody has had
to the WNBA, and she has made it through that
and is now growing as a basketball player. Right, Is
that what you heard?

Speaker 5 (18:52):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yes, So that's why I didn't understand why you're disagreeing
with me, because I'm agreeing that you're saying, like she's
about to set the WNBA record for assists, and she's
made it through that portion of it, so she is
trending that way. There are things that could come up,
who knows, maybe the Fever don't put a decent team
around her anymore, you know, who knows those all those
things could play out. But I do know this that

(19:14):
we do have evidence of Aaron Judge over these six
seasons of what he has done, and we just don't
have that information right now with Caitlin Clark. And that's
my only defense of this, so in saying if we're
really going to look at it, and I brought up
the Bradley Cooper Tom Cruise thing, which.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
Is a good example, but I just think it's a
little bit of you know, oranges and little mandarins.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
Bradley Cooper could have two great movies back to back
in a summer and into Christmas, but Tom Cruise is
still a bigger star movie star. And that's just what
I'm saying. Like at this point is like we are
in the midst of this Caitlyn Clark hurricane. So what
happens maybe two years from now or where or where

(19:57):
we are in all of this, and again, she may
be on top, but the WNB at that point and
then the answer is definitely settled. I just don't think
that there's an ultimate verdict yet, despite the feedback that
we've been getting online.

Speaker 4 (20:07):
I mean, I agree with you, this is something we
have to check back in on five years. We'll I'll
just plan this again in five years, put it in
your calendars.

Speaker 1 (20:14):
It's like the Olympics coming to La say that check
back in four years.

Speaker 5 (20:17):
Check back in. But it's just I think her, the phenomenon.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That is Caitlin Clark has already lasted longer than I
think people expected, and so I don't think she's going anywhere.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
That's just how I feel already.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Sure, you know so.

Speaker 4 (20:31):
But the comparion, Yes, Tom Cruise is more Yes than
Bradley Cooper, even though he might be on your head
right now because he has a movie.

Speaker 5 (20:37):
I get all that.

Speaker 1 (20:38):
I want to finish just with this and then we'll
kind of put a bow on it because we're going
to talk about transcendent athletes coming up at the top
of the next hour that's in about forty minutes here
on Cavino and Nurch on Fox Sports Radio. Guys, by
the way, we're in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Moncey
and I did a clip about three months ago, would
you say, four months ago when KAITLINN Clarks was entering

(20:58):
the league and we had all that backlash of everybody saying, boy,
she's gonna learn when she gets in the WNBA. It
was around final fours around April in that point, because
that's when you had the conversation of who's the greatest
player of all time? And it caught fire and we
got a lot of response to it. But it was
fifty to fifty. I would say, there's the Caitlin Clark defenders.
And then there were those who felt that Diana Tarassi,

(21:20):
Brianna Stewart and others were right in how they were
talking about Caitlin Clark and how she walked. But it
was fifty to fifty. This has not been that there's
been it's been all Caitlyn Clark. Like, I thought that
there would maybe be a back and forth. Thank goodness
for Randy Scott who just tweeted in that his son
is Aaron Judge Socks. Otherwise I think I'd been getting
an O for today, so like, but that's it was

(21:42):
more fifty to fifty when you're talking about Caitlin Clark
where she is in the WNBA compared to other players,
than this actual conversation here.

Speaker 5 (21:49):
You're so right.

Speaker 4 (21:50):
It's just that this question I'm telling you didn't bring
Caitlyn Clark fans out.

Speaker 5 (21:54):
It just brought out the conversation who's more famous.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
While our conversation was Caitlyn Clark fans against general WNBA fans,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 5 (22:04):
This was just people out there that were like, no,
she's more popular.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
It was a different conversation and it was interesting that they're, yeah,
you know.

Speaker 1 (22:12):
We're talking about a popularity.

Speaker 5 (22:13):
We're talking about a popularity contest.

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time being. Again top of the hour, we'll revisit the topic,

(23:20):
but in a different way, an interactive way for people
to get involved if you want, eight seven, seven, nine
nine on Fox. Who are those transformational athletes? What was
the phrase that you used, Mancy, if you can remember
it off the top of your.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Head, it's a phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's good. Yeah, that's perfect.
That's perfect in all of sports because it's not everybody,
and there are great athletes, but there there's a difference
when you're a phenomenon.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
Yes, and sometimes the phenomenon doesn't last as long. No,
it doesn't, but you could still be a phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
And I say, the jury is still out, all right, Yeah,
let's go to the news deck news desk. Nick Kope
is here. Moncey and Nick were just going in the
way back machine on favorite Sacramento King memories. Nick is
a Kings fan. It was a huge Kings fan.

Speaker 6 (24:14):
I mean, especially so.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
Mancey's wearing the old Slam magazine cover T shirt and
T shirt form with Chris Webber and white chocolate Jason
Williams on it. So I was just Jason Williams was
ahead of his time, man, I mean he was an
and one mixtape in the NBA, the Elbow Pass and
the All Star Game. I mean I never get tired
watching old Jason Williams clips.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I actually feel bad for
Nick because it's that. Or you got to talk about
the twenty two thousand and two Western Conference Finals like
that's the only thing that people talk about in the past.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Literally, I will never be over it. I will never
be over it, and you will never convince me that.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
The NBA didn't have a little bit of a.

Speaker 3 (24:57):
Totally nefarious games was an absolute abomination.

Speaker 5 (25:02):
Yeah, obviously because I was.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I'm not afraid saying that. In the city of Los Angeles.
Game six was ridiculous.

Speaker 5 (25:10):
I was a Laker hater, so I was rooting for
the Kings.

Speaker 4 (25:12):
I had a poster of the Kings with Paijestoyakovich, Vladi
Devots and.

Speaker 5 (25:18):
Chris Webber my first love, my first love.

Speaker 1 (25:20):
That King's team was ahead of their time. The Kings
did tell you brought you brought it up. I was
going to be profession in the news, Yes, professional, you know, Nick,
not that Monty is trying to take your job. But
as you were talking, there is news that just came in. Moncey.
Do you want to announce it? Don't worry, it's not
breaking news.

Speaker 4 (25:40):
But it's not that it's it is important to the
conversation we're having breaking The twenty twenty five w NBA
All Star Game will be held in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
I wonder why, oh my goodness, man, four four hours ago,
by the way, the Indiana Fever posted out we're changing
the game. Proof is in the stats. I've had multiple,
multiple people send me this graphic of everything that is
up with the Indiana Fever. I think it's coincidental that
the WNBA season resumes tomorrow, not from our group conversation

(26:15):
that we had yesterday. But I'll just sit here and
just mention that Aaron Judge leading vote getter for the
Major League Baseball All Star Game in the bet.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
I bet they find a way to put that game
in Lucas Oil.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
No, what, you're not gonna get seventy thousand?

Speaker 3 (26:33):
No, no, no, but you do it like they did for swimming.
You put it to the one end so you get
like thirty.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
That would be real interesting.

Speaker 2 (26:40):
Why not?

Speaker 5 (26:41):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Moving on to the NFL. You heard Nick talk about
the Minnesota Vikings and JJ McCarthy being done for the
season with that meniscus injury. Your first gut reaction.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
Was, damn, that sucks. That was my first gut reaction.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
My gut reaction was, this is good news for Minnesota.
This is actually good news for JJ McCarthy. This is
great news for Sam Donald. Not that you wish anybody
to be injured, but this is what this does. JJ
McCarthy out for the year in a season that he
probably should have sat anyway. This is the plan. This
is the thought process. Unless he completely wowed you, it's

(27:23):
Sam Donald's year. There wasn't a quarterback that was taken
in the first round that needed more time to sit
than JJ McCarthy. And now he'll just be doing some
of it through rehab and a knee injury, but he
probably needs that season to sit for Minnesota. You're not
putting in a spot to force JJ McCarthy into the
starting lineup, which then translates to Sam Donald, who signed

(27:46):
the one year deal for ten million dollars. If you're
Sam Donald, you no longer have to worry about anybody
sneaking up behind you taking your job, wondering when they're
going to pull the plug when the bye week is
going to happen, because you may lose your job the
next week. This allows Sam Donald to just all right,
I'm gonna play, and I'm here on the one year deal,
and you know what, if we do well enough, they'll

(28:08):
either want me back or somebody else will want me.
So it stinks right now for JJ McCarthy. And if
there is anybody to take a hit to your point,
it's probably JJ McCarthy. But again, he likely needed the year.
And for Minnesota. If Sam Donald stinks, guess what you
got JJ McCarthy there. He'll be your starter next year
on question to use the first round pick. And if

(28:29):
that doesn't happen, that means that you're winning football games
and you're having a fun season, and then you'll have
a tougher decision on whether to bring Donald back or
hand the reins over to JJ McCarthy. I don't think
that that's a bad problem to have. That's why I think,
like the news today sut in the immediacy for JJ
McCarthy stinks, but really it's good for him. It's good
for Donald, it's good for the Vikings.

Speaker 4 (28:50):
Yeah, the news broken, you immediately put on your GM
cap and your coach cap because that is the right mentality.
Once you heard the news, logically, you were like, Okay,
this is how we move forward. So I hear what
you're saying, because this is now your path. There are
no questions as to how you're gonna approach the season.
You are approaching the season, and you're gonna go forward
with Sam Darnold, and now you know that you're gonna
have to figure out how he and Justin Jefferson can

(29:12):
work together. But I think I just took the emotional
aspect of it. I'm not a Vikings fan, but man,
some bad luck for the Vikings, right losing Kirk Cousins
Week eight last year, him leaving Minnesota deciding to go.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
They didn't want him back. I don't think they ever
wanted him back. But I get what you're saying.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
So it's just kind of like you feel like there's
a bit of a like an unfortunate dark cloud over
the Vikings, especially last year because Kirk Cousins finally had
a great primetime game.

Speaker 5 (29:39):
You know, that was his Kryptonide for how long?

Speaker 4 (29:41):
And so you saw so much potential in the Vikings
that just disappeared immediately, even justin Jefferson got hurt, but
without Kirk Cousins.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
And so I think there was.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Just like a lot of excitement because you were just like, Oh,
we're gonna we're gonna have a new team. We're gonna
we have the greatest wide receiver. Many think that, and
I probably wouldn't disagree on this team. Let's see what
happens this new year. And so I think it was
just like another blow, like too soon, but you're right.
I mean, if this is going to happen, it happened. Now.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, I saw a stat that's been making the rounds
and I apologize who over tweeted it. It's not my original,
but it's very popular. He's the first rookie quarterback since
nineteen sixty seven the modern era to miss an entire
season because of injury. Wow, so there are others that
maybe have sat out, but injury why So it kind
of even tells you other rarity of this and the

(30:32):
other point Monzi, he looked good against the Raiders, right,
I guess that would be the stinging part of it
through a couple of really good balls, and people are like,
that is the question on what he does throwing the
ball because he really didn't have to at Michigan, and
you're wondering how it's going to translate to the NFL,
and you saw it in that first preseason game. So
if there's any any to your point about it, it's

(30:54):
because of that. But I think ultimately, in the long run,
it's probably better for everyone that division. I am going
I said it a few months ago, then I kind
of wavered back to the AFC North, and now I
think I'm going back. Like, if it's not the toughest
division in the NFL, it's the second toughest, and it's
close with the AFC North. But when you have the
Bears looking as good as we think they are, the
Lions being in the NFC Championship Game and everybody loves

(31:16):
Green Bay and Jordan love right now, it's a tough division. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:18):
I also like what you said about Sam Donald, because
you know, everyone expected him to be here as a
bridge quarterback for the Vikings while they got JJ McCarthy ready,
and so I think this is it is a great
opportunity for Sam Donald and yeah, everything you said I
agree with. But I just didn't think of that initially.
I just went to all of the down earthing everybody
did you know? But yeah, like this is this is
actually a really great situation for Sam Donald and for

(31:41):
the Vikings because again, now you know what you have
to do.

Speaker 5 (31:44):
This is how you move forward.

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That's what I miss the most.

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How about a million dollars worth of wings? Someone was
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or just became the crazy hot athlete, whether it be
a flash in the pan, We want to hear from you.

(33:09):
A hit her up at Monzi Belagias. You can find
me at Dan Byer on Fox. We'll also take your
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eight seven seven nine nine six six three six ' nine.
We'll do that coming up in about twelve minutes. By
the way, Cavino and Rich aren't here today because they're
in the middle of doing their Dan Patrick hat trick. Yes,
and for Dan Patrick here on Fox Sports Radio. They'll

(33:30):
be in again tomorrow morning for Dan and you and
I will be here for Cavino and Rich tomorrow.

Speaker 5 (33:34):
Yes we will. You're kind of doing the Covino and.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Rich hot trick. You had to, you know, do do
some updates this morning, Rise and shine. Yeah, yeah, a
little different double dipping today. I'm not a morning person,
but I can't say I hate mornings.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
You're not a morning person. You're not a morning person,
and you're looking at me. Come on, and you know
I hate mornings.

Speaker 1 (33:54):
When you get up and you're up, it's awesome, but
then like when eleven o'clock comes around, you're kind of like,
all right, I'm not used to this. Yeah, I just
have different hours in radio, and yeah, it just happens
that way. But yeah, so my own little double dip today,
but it'll just be you and me tomorrow. Nothing in
the morning for me. So maybe get a chance to
sleep in or stay up late and order some Wings

(34:16):
Bill if somebody wants to buy wings you can help
Chris Jones as he's trying to chip in to help
a lady who stole a million and a half dollars
worth of wings basically from a school district. Is that
the crux of this story. There's a woman who is
sentenced the nine years Jason Stewart for stealing chicken wings.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Yeah, I guess she was in charge of food ordering
for the school district and during the pandemic somehow ring
up one point five million dollars and mostly chicken wings.
And I honestly, I'm so vague on the details on
this thing, and it hasn't been very well written these stories.
But Chris Jones of the Chiefs is offering to pay

(34:57):
that one point five million, so she serves a lo sentence.
I guess the story has gone viral. I'm not totally
in on the details, but I think that's the gist
of it.

Speaker 5 (35:07):
I think those are the details out. Yeah, there's not
much else.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
But she was able to do it throughout the pandemic
and did just multiple orders.

Speaker 5 (35:14):
It kept going.

Speaker 4 (35:15):
Then the school realized they were over budget, did a
little investigation and realized that that's how she got away
with it.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
What boy, five million dollars over budget? The reason the
reason why this is crazy, there's two reasons. Number one,
Chris Jones paying feels like, oh, what a nice guy.
She stole the wings, Like that's it's not like she
was wrongly convicted. We've heard heard about more of those

(35:42):
stories DNA testing. Hey, I'll pay for your legal fees
so you can be you know you were wrongly convicted.
You didn't commit this crime. No, she did. She kept
on placing orders charging it to the school and kept
them herself. But the other part of it, and I
never thought about this until it was stated in one
of the articles who has chicken wings at school? Like

(36:06):
the point is that they aren't allowed because of the
bones in them, and it could be a choking hazard
to kids. So I would think maybe in October of
twenty twenty, when the first box of chicken wings is
ordered and you're saying, wait a second here, why is
you know? Why is Lincoln Elementary? That was my elementary
school too?

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Right, we were the Lincoln Lions. We were also the
what color who I remember? Orange? Orange and black? I
think ours orange? I swear orange blue. Wow? Dan Patrick
Hatrick ruscious your friends again? But why after? We are
always bead friends, just not on the same team sometimes,
hold on, hold on, why wouldn't you know? Like why

(36:49):
did it take a million and a half dollars down
the line to realize that somebody at a school district
is ordering chicken wings.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Don't hate the player, hate the game. I mean, Dan,
let's be real here. She that's the thing it is.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
It is questionable that they now noticed it, how many
years later, because the pandemic was what four years ago,
which is crazy to say. So it's crazy that they
figured this out now. And I yes, she's guilty, but
it's ridiculous that it's a nine year sentence. And maybe
that's why Chris Jones is heard the nine year sentence
and was like, you know what, I want to step up,
which I was actually surprised because you don't hear about

(37:25):
celebrities and famous athletes like this who.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
Have money, really give this much money like we always hear, Oh,
they donated one hundred thousand.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
Dollars, but to cover one point five million, that's a
that's a chunk just for the late.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
And again, the judge isn't gonna say get out of jail,
go home, like no, she did it, Like that's the
point is, is she actually stole it? Now the school
board of the school district is reimbursed awesome for Chris
Jones to do it, if that's what he's he's he's
really intending. But I don't think that's what he's intending

(38:00):
to do because he quote tweeted it saying like, I'll
pay for the I'll pay for the wings.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Like you don't think he understands the details of the situation,
Like you don't think he oh that she's super guilty
like of this, This isn't there.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, because his actual tweet was I'll pay for the
wings that she stole to get her free, right, not
like I'll pay for the wings so the school can
have new basketball uniforms that they haven't been able to
buy because of the scheme. Iowa Sam, I.

Speaker 8 (38:26):
Would say that Chris Jones is the wind beneath her wings.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
I was gonna say, was Vera Ladell in mild medium
or hot water? Was that the question? When she was busted?
Hit him up at Iowa Sam? Ninety nine different levels
of wings, That's what I But she can't because she's
I'm dan by her in for Covino and Rich here

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