August 27, 2024 • 42 mins
Who is the "hardest NFL team to predict" for the 2024 season?
Covino has a hot take on the Pittsburgh Steelers
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to talk quarterbacks. But you heard that justin Herbert story, right,
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he was stuck in an elevator. Yes, who would you
least want to be stuck with? It's a great question.
Think about that. Think about it, start thinking about it.
There's a lot of stuck stories. We talked about it
yesterday on our afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Show, Suck Suck, Come Back, I I've come back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Stuck, come Back, I've come back.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We decided of the three, you can see the full
clip at covid on rich of the three's what's scary
of those astronauts that are stuck it out of space
until next year?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
In Mexico at six Flags or was it Safe Flags?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Down there, they're stuck on the swing because a storm
came in and you guys run your own.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
During a storm. Yeah, horrifying.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Stuck with twelve big NFL players on an elevator. A
lot of stuck stories. So who would you least want
to be stuck with of all the NFL quarterbacks? Think
of that dumb question. We'll get to that. You're ever
in mixed company rich and like everybody gets up at
the bathroom at the same time, you're stuck with the
person who never talks, and you're like, oh, that's the
worst one. I'm gonna use the restaurant. You're like, alright, honey.
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Then like her girlfriend's like I'll come with you, and
you're like I'm stuck with the dude. Yeah, its like
someone you really don't know that way, like, you know
what the worst is, you're just looking at that guy.
The worst is when you're stuck small tug with a guy.
And I'm not just saying this goes we're on Fox Sports,
but when you get stuck talking to a guy who's like,
I don't follow sports, and you're.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Like, what am I gonna like a dad at school?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Like we heard, we heard the assembly man, you pumped
about the NFL man week away.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't really care for sports, and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh that that is the longest. What's the longer two
and a half minutes? When the uber says it's on
its way and it says two and a half minutes,
but you're like twelve and a half minutes later, wait
is doing little Spinney circles? Or when you're stuck with
that dude because all you're friends went to the bathroom
and you're stuck with that one guy you have nothing
to talk to.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's like that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know what it's like when you pick your kid
up from school and one of the dads like starts
talking to you, but you have nothing in common with
that guy. You just you're looking for your kid to
come out so fast, like I have nothing to talk
to this guy. You look at your kid. You come on, buddy,
let's go still. You know what, Ever, because you're talking
about it, we're gonna get the NFL. But Carinos, you
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have a great story about your dad.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I do. I'll give you one word, Dad Pavarotti.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's a quick, thirty second story, but this defines what
we're talking about as far as those dads that don't
talk about sports. So my dad comes to pick me up.
When I was a little kid, I was, you know,
rough housing with one of my buddies. You're probably playing
contrab the eye base base, playing some basses loaded some
(03:55):
I was playing Nintenzo, probably blades up steel. My dad
comes to pick me up, and now he's in the
living room of another dad basically, but my dad wasn't like.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Dad.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
My dad was a blue collar dad, younger. This dude
was like stuffy older dad, right, yeah, like one of
the books. He was like a buston. And my dad
walks into the house and he's like, hey, come on,
let's go, and I'm like, I'll be right up, dad,
But I make my dad wait like ten minutes, because
I'm in the middle of something and my dad is
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having that Man, I'm stuck here with this stuffy dad moment.
He has no idea what to talk about, and he's
sort of scrambling for things, and he looks and he
sees a picture on the wall of Pavaratti, right, and
I remember it as a picture, by the way, Pavaratti.
This this dad, stuffy guy, this dad, and he had
a picture of Pavaratti and it was lit up, it
was illuminated and everything. This dude was a big Pavaratti fan.
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My dad just happened to see a documentary on Pavarotti,
but he knew nothing about Pavaratti. Again, my dad knew
only about vending machines. He didn't know about Pavaratti. My
dad's a blue collar or so. My dad just making
small talk. He's like, hey, yay, who's that pavar Rucci.
I know that guy. My dad probably thought that was
Ron Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right, yeah, I know that guy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And the dad is like, oh, mister Cavino, I didn't
know you loved Pavaro. Have a seat, sit down. I
walked upstairs to my dad listening to Pavaratti albums with
this dude thinking like, my dad.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Doesn't like Pavaradi. You kidding me?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
My dad squeezed my hand so hard when he came up,
come on, let's go, He said.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Don't you have a do dad again? You you come up?
You better because I made him Wait, that's what happens.
You never want to get stuck with the with the
other lame dad. That's my dad and the pavaradis the Hey, listen,
we have time to think about it round the room.
What NFL team has you confused as hell? What NFL
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team do you look at and say there's one team
that leads this key of you think that? I think
there's a handful.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
There's another number one, Survey says Steve Harvey says. Survey
says number one answer on the board by far, simply
because of the quarterback situation. But it's not only that
they need an offensive tackle. They need another receiver, they
need a cornerback, they need to to improve their special teams.
There's so many question marks with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Were
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they starting when they face the Falcons, It's gonna be
Russell Wilson, But if he slips, then you got Justin fields.
And by the way, that's just me saying that, Yeah,
you know, but you got Justin fields backing them up.
People are gonna be chatting for Justin fields once they
get at home. It's gonna be a sticky situation. And
not only do they need an offensive tackles like I said,
with herbig au and receiver and cornerback to replace rush
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special teams. But like Towey was saying off the air,
we have a pre show meeting in the kitchen. I
was there, still waking up. He thought I wasn't listening,
but he was like, yo, I don't think Mike Tomlin's
gonna last through the year. That's my hot take. Why
do you think that? Two wee by the way, because
he was like, I don't think he's gonna last. There's
so many question marks there, Rich, this is the this
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is the catalyst to the question. So at the start
of it all, like when you think of teams with
the biggest question marks and hardest to predict, is the
Steelers number one?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, he was already sort of
on the warm sea last year quarterback situation disaster, right,
Like things are just very It's it's unsettling, and I
think it's gonna go soft aware.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean you could flip it a little bit and
change your perspective and say, well, those are good problems
to have, right, two guys to choose from, But I's not.
It's like, I'll give you the analogy. It's like, I
hate to always make it about dating, but it's like
dating two average girls and being like cruciala, I choose
how about neither? Hey, you have two job interviews with
jobs you really don't want. Wait for the job, you know,
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like sometimes two mediocre it does not equal one good. Yeah,
and I think that would be most people's number one.
So I got to get that out of the way.
That's sort of why we pose this question anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So tell me you you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Think not only will not only will Tom will be
on the hot seat. You think so he does not
continue his over five hundred streak.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's my hot take. It's sizzling, sizzling, sizzling. It's like
a fajita coming in the room. There's a lot of
pressure there, yeah, to figure it out. I mean, look,
a lot of people will ask you, like y honest
I'm glad. That's not my job. That's his job. He's
got to figure this out. It doesn't work out, that's
on him and Danny G. I know there's some action
in Vegas right when it comes to the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, the Steelers are the most bet on team to
go over their season win total, which Vegas has said
at eight and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
SAE, so a lot of people but also a lot
of Steelers fans out there, a lot of Steelers fans
doing you know, they're making a bet with their heart,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, that's over eight and a half wins.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Yeah, that's the public saying their coach, Tomlin can't go
under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He never does. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So I'm just looking at the TV screens too here
in the studio, like everybody's talking about the Steelers because
it's like, well, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, what's your team? Danny G. I'll hold mind for
a second. What is your team?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it? And I know you're big Raiders guy, and
you you have a lot more faith in them than
I think a lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Yeah, I'm not going to be a homer. I'm not
going to go that route. The most confusing team to
me is the Miami Dolphins, because besides Tua getting paid,
we know he's got a lot of weapons on offense,
but their defense was always stout and suddenly they lost
Wilkins to my Raiders. Thank you for that, Christian Wilkins,
Robert Hunt, Xavian Howard, Jerome Baker, Andrew van Ginkel who
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was a great piece to that defense, Brandon Jones the safety.
They lost all those pieces on defense. So how is
that going to translate on the field for the Dolphins
this season?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Has to think Bradley Chubb starting on the pup list,
so he's gonna miss the first four games of the year.
Like they're coming into the season, a lot of losses
in free agency and already injured.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Doesn't look good.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, but but Mike McDaniel got a glow up though.
Did you see his hair? He looks like a drug
kingpin down in Miami. He's gotta be worth something. And
Danny g I like what you said about the Dolphins.
I feel the same thing about the Steelers. There's a
lot of voids in their roster. They're adding a lot
of new people. You know, we forget that chemistry is
a big part of this, like, you can't just start
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replacing people and all these voids and have all these
new people and expect them to jail right away too.
So there's going to be that transitional period for the
team and how fast are they going to jail? That's awkward.
It's hard to predict. We haven't seen it yet. Hardest
team to predict. You got the Dolphins, Steelers, you got
the Steelers. I mean we're talking about teams where some
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people would say, man, maybe they win. They're six and eleven,
seven and ten, and then other people were saying, no, no
playoff team. I think just based on the USA today,
which means nothing to me. But the USA today, did
they not predict the Jets to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yes? Right? Was that right? They predicted the Jets to
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I look at the Jets as confusing as can be
because I grew up in New York and people, much
like my Mets, people say Jets are gonna Jet there They're.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Still the Jets. J e t Yes, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Jets that there's something about just the stigma of that team.
Aaron Rodgers coming off an injury, but he's still Aaron Rodgers,
but is he still the elite Aaron Rodgers are and
getting older, so you don't know what to predict. Because
they added Mike Williams, they're healthy. Javon Kinlaw, I'm a
nineer fent. He's going to be a big acquisition. Solomon
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Thomas Hassan Reddick like the Jets made some moves. I
feel like the Jets are a playoff team. I think
the Jets for them, what stinks is that they have
to play the forty nine ers week one, and that'll
that's like a weird way. It's like, uh, it's like
a weird place to start, like, hey, let's play the
forty nine ers out west. That's like you draw the
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shark straw and the schedule making. But then after that
the Jets have a little bit of a cake schedule
for a minute. So I think the Jets are a
playoff team. I'm on board with the Jets making the playoffs.
Roger say, you know that's what you're really banking on too.
Going again, I'm gonna take a look at the Jets
schedule and I don't want to do that thing where
we go over every game, but there are very winnable
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games after the forty nine Ers, they play the Niners.
Then they play Get this, because I think these are
like we're talking about a couple of winnable games in
a row. Let's say they drop the opener to the Niners.
I'm a Niners fan. I'm cool with that. Own one,
they play Tennessee. If the Jets have anything they're gonna
they should beat Tennessee right. Then they play the Patriots
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two and one, the Broncos three and one, the Vikings.
If the Jets are what you think they might be,
four and one, then they played the Bills. You could
go four and two, Steelers, five and two, Patriots again,
six and two, Texans give them a lost six and three.
The way we're going is it's looking like the Jets
are a ten to twelve win team based on how
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things are going. So confusion. I say the Jets, but
I'm leaning on the playoff Jets, not the dude. The
Jets are to Jet. They give me seven to ten.
Aaron Rodgers has done I don't believe that. I like, uh,
I like the are still you know, productive, they have
a good team. But aside from Aaron Rodgers and not
knowing what to predict, there's not as many question marks
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as there are with the Steelers as there are with
the Dolphins. Did just play the Cardinal conversation? Did just
say the Cardinals, the Seahawks. They have a couple, you know,
week games down the stretch too. I think I'm on
board with the Jets postseason possibilities. Who are we forgetting?
Who do you want to add to this list that
we're making the teams that are hardest to predict this
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What's up? Wes?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Thanks for checking out cnrread he goes Sunshine. Trevor Lawrence
and the Jags. They got to show up or that
team's gonna win. That team should with what they built
around Trevor Lawrence. At this point, they're well coached. He's like,
if they don't somehow remember last year. I remember this
specifically because they were six and two going into that
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forty nine Ers game they lost to them. They got
trounced by the forty nine Ers and then went on
a downslide, much like the Eagles season. The Eagles and
the Jags. But you know what, all the bad at
the end of the year, all these teams have that
The Steelers don't an official starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think if you.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Can't even figure that out, that screams like we don't
know what's going on yet. That's hard to predict. What
do you think about the Chargers music, Ryan, what do
you do you think that? Do you think the Chargers are.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
So the Chargers is similar to what you had said
about the Jets. I want to believe the Chargers aren't predictable,
but everybody here in LA knows that chargering is an adverb,
and so it's almost predictable that regardless of what happens,
you're gonna have a catastrophic the season in the playoffs,
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even going back to the standpoint, even go back to
Stan Humper or not, like there's a way then whether
it's you know, Philip Rivers, even that team does charger.
I'm intrigued by the Chargers because I think it's gonna
be interesting. Obviously, with Jim Harbaugh and Collins A big
fan of Jim Harbaugh, and he's had so much success
everywhere he goes, and I want to see if, as
you guys were talking about earlier, can like Justin Herbert
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really establish himself as like that bona fide top five
guy along with all the other elite quarterbacks. I just
don't find them confusing because I don't I personally don't
have super high expectations for them. Like there's so many
teams in the AFC that we know where like we
know the Chiefs are going to be really good. We
know the Bill should be very good, whether you think
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it's the Ravens or the Bengals in the AFC North,
we know all those teams are going to be very good.
And so I'm like, at best, if the Chargers have success,
what they're going to be like maybe like the sixth
or seventh best team barely getting into the playoffs. So
I don't see a huge range for them. I what
you said earlier. I think the Eagles, I'm like, I
don't know what to expect because for them to go
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from in the Super Bowl to last thing, well, they
started out like ten and one, right, I like that
answer because he again the question is what is hardest
to predict.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's hard to predict. You don't know what Eagles you're
gonna get.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Yeah, you have no idea because they had to turn
over both coordinators because that didn't work for Nick Sirianni.
There's all the questions that Sirianni and Jalen Hurts don't
have the best relationship. One of their biggest veteran leaders
on offense, Jason Kelcey's now gone. And so now you're like,
I I actually don't really know what I mean. They
have a lot of talent. I expect that they should
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be good or are they gonna come out and struggle
and then all of a sudden they start pulling apart
like that did at the end of last season.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I love what you said because you could say this
about so many teams, which is why NFL is king. Yeah,
which is why everyone's turning the page. Because like, back
to the Chargers one second, they should be running the
ball a lot to bounce out that offense.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's I'm I'm a hardball guy like him. JK.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Like who did they even have Like
did they have an elite running game right now, to
compliment Justin.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Herbert, they're in salary cap hell, and there's no more
Mike Williams to throw the ball to, no more Keenan
Allen to throw the ball to. So you got to
look at those weapons. It might take another offseason for
Harbaugh to get the salary cap mess figured out and
get the right additions to that offense for his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh, because we don't know Anthony Richardson and if he's
going to make time now, that's a good one. I mean,
I love the fact that we've named like five teams
and we could keep going on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Right, we can't make some fun. That's what makes it fun.
That's what makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The Harbaugh where, I think because he's gone places and
has had resulted pretty quickly. He went to the forty
nine ers and took them from three and thirteen to
thirteen and three. The next year he went to Michigan
won a national title. It's like, wait, the peace out
Chargers fans. I hope their expectation is too high, because
that would be like doing it three times in a roll.
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Like he's a great coach, great Khakis, great programs, had
a great preseason. I mean, did you see how cool
he was under pressure when he was stuck in an
elevator for two hours? It's two hours. He didn't even crack.
I'm cool, guys, relaxed. There was a test, so it's
a good Yeah, it's a good sign moving forward.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He worked on his footwork for the whole two hours. Yeah,
he was getting some practice in there. That's the true story.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
By the way, stuck in an elevator for two hours, uh,
with fifteen other people.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So again we asked you. Actually, I think there were.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
All great answers, but again, the hardest to predict is
it the Steelers? Do you feel any other team here?
Do you want to add a team? A eight eight,
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wrapping up the teams, the NFL teams that are hardest
to predict. Now the hardest to predict is obviously the Steelers.
Everybody's talking about it. It's not just us. Everybody's talking
about the Steelers and what's going on there and all
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the voids they need to fill. I already explained, you
already know the quarterback situation, but they need an offensive tackle, receiver, cornerback,
they got to improve on special teams, so they got
like five voids they have to fill. That's a lot
of moving parts and a lot of headaches for Tom,
and I see a lot of question marks, a lot
of difficulties in their future, not rooting against Russell Wilson
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or fields for that matter. But I think that's the
hardest team to predict because you just don't know. We'll
ask yourself a parallel type of question. Is it also
just a alt of them being in arguably the best
division in football? Like they got to play the Ravens twice,
they got to play the Bengals twice, and they got
to play the Browns twice, which, by the way, is
another question mark. Is Deshaun Watson, the guy that got
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paid all that money, is he worth it? Is that
Cleveland Browns team gonna deliver this year? That's and then
it's funny you can't even bring him up and possibly
the top five. Yeah, you know, does endless answers to
this stupid question of what is the biggest mystery going
into the twenty twenty four NFL season, Because there's a
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name I'm gonna throw you right now, and you could say, yes,
I agree, this is not a playoff team, but will
this guy give the team future hope? You know, sometimes
your team could lose, but you're like, all right, well
we got the pieces, we just need to develop it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, green Bay, now they're already there. No, I mean
last year, Yeah, last year, green Bay Now, yeah they
discovered all right, Jordan loves the guy this year, Danny
g in your division in the AFC Wes, we talked
about the Chiefs, We talked about your Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He's like a good you know placeholder bow Knicks is
is Sean Payton and bow Knicks at the beginning of
something good. Is this could be grand opening, grand closing,
or could be like he got his guy.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I mean, all signs point to the fact that he's
going to be a successful NFL QB. Bow Knicks was
the guy that secretly the Broncos front office wanted. Remember
that story that they didn't even leak that to the
rest of their staff because they were so tight limped
on that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They were playing chess while playing checkers pretty much.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
And so this is the guy that the Broncos fabulous
new head coach wanted.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So let's see how he uses him. I'm not trying
to be all over the place, but I'm just sure nature.
I'm an ad D type of guy. I'm sorry, just
how I was raised. I'm looking at the divisions, and
we talked about the competitiveness of let's say the AFC
North or even for that matter, the NFC North. Everyone's
especially Colin. We're filling for him. He's high on Caleb Williams.
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Does that team have a playoff chance? Did the Lions
take a step back? Are the Packers gonna pick up
where they left off? There's so many interesting questions, But
in that AFC West, we're all locked in, like, all right,
it's Chiefs. But then after the Chiefs, you could order
those three other teams in a multitude of ways, and
I'd be like, yeah, that looks right. We were just
talking off the air, Rich while you were hob nobbing
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in the hallway, Towey and I were saying, maybe this
is the year they don't win the West, and would
you say, hey, they got It's gotta be sometime he can't.
So yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not not a guarantee
we think that way certainly, of course, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm certainly not wishing ever injury on a player because
that's that's just trash behavior. But what if what if
Mahomes or Kelsey, your key players, Chris Jones, if someone
goes down and they stumble to nine and eight or
ten and seven and they're a wild card, or that's
possible Tom Brady, remember he missed the season and they
that was the one year the Patriots didn't make the playoffs.
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There was a year I'm a Niners fan as a kid,
Montana went down, Steve Young went down, if you remember,
Steve Bono was the quarterback, and they missed the playoffs
on a tiebreaker. That forty nine Ers dynasty missed the
playoffs one year. The Patriots missed the playoffs. One year
it happens.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
This is a dream scenario, But what if the Raiders
defense continues to look the way they did on Christmas Day.
They were all over Mahomes. He made errors in that game.
That that was the game, Santa, just reality is you're right,
(24:47):
But that was the game that woke the Chiefs up,
that led them to their Super Bowl victory. That Kelsey
said that woke our asses up. No one remember they
added Christian Williams, the one of the big high motor
guys in all of football, to go next to Max Crosby,
who's on the field even more than Wilkins. Those two
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guys leading that defense the Raiders. Here's a hot take.
The Raiders defense could finish in the top five of
defenses in all the NFL. And remember the complaint with
Derek Carr stands. They never had a good defense when
Carr was there. Imagine Carr with a defense like this.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, you know what, I will say, there's not a
person outside of Kansas City that's like unless you're a
Mahomes superfan kid and you're like I Thatt Mahames, no
one wants a three peat. I'm a Niners fan. I
don't want them to do what Montana couldn't do. Patriots
fans don't want him to do what Brady couldn't do.
Steelers fans don't want that. Any team at one point
had a great dynasty. They don't want a three peat.
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No one wants a three peat. It's it's like this,
you know, when Steph and the Warriors were just winning
every year, It's like, all right, enough's enough, and I
think we love watching them. But I don't think anyone
would cry if knocked him out. If Lamar did. If
you know they laid an egg in the wildcard round,
that's boring for football, to be honest. It's as simple
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as that.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah. I call it the Clitchko theory.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
There was a tenure of the clitch Goos that made
the heavyweight division boring, which is bad for boxing because
people want to tune into heavyweights. They knew they were
going to win. The clitch Goes were the best. The
Chiefs keep winning. It's just boring for the NFL. But
the AFC is so stacked, but no one wants the Chiefs.
All right, let's do it some herd Line news line.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
This is the herd Line news All.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Right, guys, we'll pick up real quick where you guys
just left off.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
One thing we didn't talk about is the departure of
one of their great cornerbacks, the gerious Sneid.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Maybe that could lead to part of the downfall there.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
But Sneid obviously was a part of their back to
back Super Bowl champion defense, one of the key positions
in the secondary, with Chris Jones holding it down up front.
But Snead, he's feeling hurt. He didn't want to have
to leave Kansas City. So here's what he had to say.
After first they gave him the franchise tagged and they
ended up trading him to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
He got a new contract with Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
But here's what sneed had to say about having to
leave the Chiefs quote. I didn't talk to them. I
was upset, man, I was upset. Kansas City. That's like
my first love. They showed me the way, they showed
me how to be a champion. They gave me two rings,
and you know what, I was bitter. I was angry
because I wanted to stay in that environment around everybody
that I was used to.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, and sometimes you don't know the impact these guys have.
In the locker room in the clubhouse, we were talking
about Danny GE's Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The other day, Jason Hayward.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He was a guy that was instrumental in that Cubs
twenty sixteen World Series. Some guys bring a team together.
Think about any work environment. There's people that are good
camaraderie people, and maybe you lose something with Sneid. He
was part of back to back champions.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
So I mean, listen, the Chiefs have been the team
to be the past like five years, right, but like
at some point those margins start getting smaller and smaller
and smaller, and like we talk about this with the Patriots. Yes,
they won six Super Bowls, but they also win a
gap of ten years where they didn't win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
People forget then.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So you're reminded of that if you watch the Tom
Brady the documentary Man in the Arena and you're like, oh,
well there was a there was a gap. It wasn't
like they won one every three years and then that
lasted eighteen years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's it's they went t street season.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
The Patriots won a few Super Bowls when you had
a flip phone, and then they went ten years and
they won again when you had like the iPhone eight.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It was that's how you can engauge the Patriot exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So it's you know, listen, obviously, Chiefs are a great
drafting team. They have a lot of great young players
in the secondary that they're trying to fill this in with,
and maybe it all works out for them, but you know,
Snead obviously still a little hurt about having to get
shipped out of Kansas City. All right, this one's for you,
rich Oh. Trent Williams and the forty nine Ers remain
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at an m pass.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Jeremy Fowlers reporting that Williams is continuing to hold strong
and refuses to show up in San Francisco without an
adjustment to his current contract.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I hope, I hope this is not a carbon copy
of Chris Jones last year with the Chiefs where they
lost their first game and they're like, say, Joe's I
could see the forty nine Ers getting pressured without Trent
Parties run around, get.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
His head cut off, and they lose to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And then then all of a sudden, Kyle Shanahan and
uh and the front office is like, all right, you know,
John Lunch, get it done.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, let's do it before that, please, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Trent Williams might be the most important guy in that team,
a team full of superstars. Trent Williams could be the
most important guy one hundred percent. I don't think I
don't think that's crazy or a hot take by any means.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Way more important than Ayuku Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, not
even clo. I mean outside of just the inherent value
you have to give to the quarterback. If you take
that away, without a doubt, Trent Williams, Kyle Shanahan's offense
doesn't have time to percolate if Trent Williams.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Is in blocking the left side.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That's right, all those plays unfold with deebo and McCaffrey
because Trent Williams gives Purty time.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's right. We'll wrap up with this.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
We talked a little bit of the Patriots, and it's
going to be the first NFL season we will not
see Bill Belichick on the sidelines of New England for
over two decades now. Belichick also known for being the
mastermind behind building those rosters that won six Super Bowls
for the Patriots, but now a member of the media.
Here's what Belichick had to say about some of the
challenges that the Patriots are now facing in free agency,
(30:45):
he'd said, this taxa choose its Virtually every player, even
the minimum players are basically getting close to a million dollars. Now,
once you hit that million dollar threshold, you have to
pay more state taxes in massachuse sits. So that's just
another thing you're contending for. This isn't Tennessee, Florida, Nevada
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teams without a state income tax. Those are things you're
getting hit on pretty hard by the agents.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I wonder if it would make no sense. I don't
think they can do it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
CAVI, you know, you ever think they'd make an adjustment
per state, per salary cap. That's too complicated. But there
there tends to be a disadvantage. But I remember when
a Rod maybe when he signed with the Texas Rangers,
like no taxes in those state taxes in Texas.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, you save a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Maybe you or I guys making regular selleries one thing,
But when you're making tens of millions of dollars a year,
they're not going to make that adjustment. Now, plus is
a bad look to the fans. There's no way anybody
else there has to pay the tax.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, like we're gonna give everyone a benefit.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Noah, just kidding out you guys, not your regular guys,
the Patriots. I mean, it's it's sounds sounds sounds nice,
but no, just another uh, just another thing that's going
to hold the Patriots back as they try and find
their way in the post Belichick, post Brady era. Parachuice,
it's tax uices. Thank you, Ryan, appreciate me, Ryan Music.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News. I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Colin usually does the headline news with J Mack. Do
you play pickup basketball like him? Because I do not
feel like his Instagram story is like basketball. Oh yeah?
Have you ever seen him ball in person? Is he
any good?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I actually have not seen him play in person, but
if if it's any gauge on how much he cares
about it, he's got to be at least pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Is he going all out?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean all out? Oh not like you who
takes uncontested threes at the gym? Yes, I mean I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't go full speed really on anything at this
He's going. I'm, by no means an old guy, but
I'm not trying to get hurt, you know, what I mean,
he's going on, how old.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is J thirty forty something? Yeah, he's in and he's
going on, we're around the same age. So I not
only is he going all out?
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Why Sometimes during the break he's like, oh, man, I'm
watching film on this team we got coming up.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I'm like, okay, oh, that's too much pressure and you're
supposed to having. He's like the guys. He even takes
some shots. He's like the guys that I play. I
play softball twice week, and I think that's a lot.
There's guys that play five days a week and they'll
say things like, you know, you're hitting the cage this week.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I'm like, hitting the cage this week? We play Sunday morning,
sofball hitting the cage. I'm going out to dinner with
my wife and kids? Am I hitting the cage?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Say?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'll do your best, That's not it, But I'm like
going all out. It's like, come on. I wanted to
ask because Ryan did a great job filling in for
j Max. You know what here, but do you put
Jmak in the same category as me playing softball him
playing basketball? No, the way you're describing it, he takes
he takes his men's leagues very serious. Ah man, Look,
(33:52):
if that's what keeps him in shape, keeps them happy.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm not judging by any means. I never even met
him in person.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I hear he's a great guy, but I'm saying for
for car cortionary reasons, like you got to be a little.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Careful as you get old.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm sure you don't go out there and compete, but
for me, my priority would be staying healthy. Like it's
all funny games. So this guy rolls an ankle. Yeah,
and when he's hobbling into the herd. The one thing
he did have happened. This was probably about a year ago,
maybe a year and a half ago.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
He caught an elbow and had to get like a
stitch or two right above his eyebrow.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That bad the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Eyebrow elbow is Like, that's a that's a basketball injury
right there. Oh absolutely, But do you put Cavino. We'll
move on, we'll talk some NFL and stuff, But do
you put all rex sports real in the same category.
Becus Cavino's the first to bust my chops about look
at you and your old guys playing softball. I'm like, dude,
you can sort of have fun and be lazy playing
Sunday softball. I'm not trying to downplay how serious you
are basketball. And he's probably playing with a lot of
(34:43):
younger dudes. When you're out to court, all these younger
dudes roll up and they want to start really getting
aggressive with you, and then your competitive instincts kick in.
It could be it could be a little more dangerous
than your than your softball. I think if you're playing
any rex sport, I'm giving you quick because hey, you're
staying active and you have a hobby. So I think
(35:05):
I'm putting him all in the same category. Softball, basketball league.
I think guy's playing pickleball, if you golf. Anything you
do to stay active with sports when you're thirty five
to forty plus is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I have a question, you need to do one of
these things real quick, though.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
My brother plays in a men's baseball league, right, and
I guess he was playing well one day and a
scout actually approached him.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
This is recently, right, I swear to god.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I just don't know what you would do, though, So
it's kind of like that fantasy you have, like oh yeah, yeah,
maybe someone will see me. So the scout came up
to him and offered him like an indie ball contract.
Now he would have to go to Gary, Indiana for
the last forty games of the season. And it's just
some local men's league in New Jersey, right, And You're like,
(35:51):
we want you to play for the team. My brother's like,
no way, for real.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
My brother's in his thirties. He's kind of a boza
and he does appraisals. He's like, you know if that
means I would have to like quit my job, and
I'm like, yo, but that's kind of cool, Tommy. Right,
I'm like, think about it. He goes the one thing
I really was like hooked on. He's like, I would
be in Baseball Reference sots, like if you googled him
would be there. And I'm like thinking, that would be
(36:18):
sort of worth it in itself to have your stats
on Baseball Reference as a pro like you played at
this level. No one could ever take that away, and like,
there's forty games, go and have fun.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He's like, no, I can't do it. You know. I'm like,
all right, man, but I thought, what would you do? Rich?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Sure say, It's not like he's such a professional that
he can't dip out for forty games. He also needs
his money. I mean, he's an adult and everything, but
that would be a once in a lifetime. Ay man,
I did it at a decent level where Google me.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's right there.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Look Tommy Cavino six foot two, twenty I bet it
a Let's give him some props. I bet it too,
eighty in the indie league. Listen, it sounds fun in theory.
He still gotta pay your bills. He's a grown up.
He doesn't have a nice serious girlfriend. Who's aw his
girlfriend's a lawyer, right. He said, he's hey, honey, I
know you like the Breadwinner. I'm gonna go play indie
baseball and Gary Indiana. Oh it's the Frontier League, that's
(37:12):
what it's called. He goes, Yeah, man, I was having
a game. He goes, he's probably it's probably the back
tier league. The kid was pumping high eighties tonight and
I was ripping him. I ripped him twice year.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
He goes. The guy came up. I'm sort of pumped.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I would have a baseball reference if I did it,
And I was like, yo, man, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You only get one shot. Florida ceiling windows will always
be there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
No. By the way, Kevino's brother's such such a dufist
of an appraiser. Yeah, he's a he's a male himbo
bimbo himbo. He's sort of Kiani kind of. He does
appraisals for houses, and he wrote down Florida ceiling windows
and everyone's like, what is Florida ceiling within us? He goes,
(37:53):
Florida's do you mean Florida ceiling windows? I thought they
would called Florida ceiling windows to wee view the palm trees.
This is the guy praising my house. Maybe he should
go play me. Why not go for it and just
have fun and get his name.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
In the book.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, hey, with that said, play played something, golf, pickleball, softball, basketball,
Stay active if you love sports. Don't be that old
guy that's like hunched over the I'm too young. Right. Well, hey,
we got more kabin on rich In for The Herd
next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 8 (38:37):
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Speaker 2 (38:40):
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Speaker 8 (38:41):
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Speaker 4 (38:46):
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Speaker 2 (38:50):
What what are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, he
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Speaker 8 (38:57):
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Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yea, yeah, the CNR show, Covino and Rich and for
calling on the Herd normally two to four on the West,
five to seven on the East. But love feeling in
for Colin. You got a good crew, y'all, Towey Bryan.
Does Colin appreciate you enough? Good guys? We hope so, yes,
of course, yes, yes. Speaking of Towey and Rich, you
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mentioned Jason Hayward.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
We had a big topic about him last week with
the Dodgers and how he's a great clubhouse guy, struggled
a little bit at the plate besides that dramatic game
winning home run he had for the Dodgers not too
long ago. It looks like the Astros are nearing a
deal to sign Hayward clubhouse guy too.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You're an Astros guy, house guy.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
They've been a mess in the outfield this year with
Kyle Tucker out and injuries galore.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So we'll see it goes to a Chinese farmer story,
rich or should I say Tom Brady's Chinese farmer story?
Maybe maybe like, man, what a tough break for Heyward.
Maybe maybe maybe he was look at them now, and
you know what that Astros team. I heard Steve Phillips
former metch GM back in the day. He does broadcasting,
I think on serious Exam with Mad Dog. Yeah, and
(40:19):
Steve Phillips when your Astro stunk in the beginning of
the year, I'll give him credit.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I like giving credit where its due.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
They were trash and he's like, the Astros will still
win that division, You'll see. And I remember thinking, like,
if you're giving Steve Phillips credit, can we just say
his hair is impeccable? I mean that is a white
pompadoor of joy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I mean he's the only second to Leslie Nielsen. And
let's be honest, Leslie Nielsen and Phil Donahue both passed away.
Now rest in peace. Steve Phillips not have the best
white pompador. You know that might be her hottest take
of the day. And if you don't know who Steve
Phillips is, look him up. Give me a silver, Give
me a silver Fox. Anderson Cooper don't got a pompadoor.
That dude has a perfect like business cut. Anyway, we
(40:59):
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Speaker 2 (41:15):
Now Rich, we have lots to get to next.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Now we're giving away prizes NFL trivia the best deals
you got in life. There's an airline story we have
to talk about, just a random story that stood out
to me and it does tie into sports a little bit.
Just hear me out because we have a few minutes. Okay,
did you hear about Mariah Carey, hear what happened to her?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
This is awful? Did she lost two family members in
the same day.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Mariah Carey's mom died this week and her sister died
on the same day. Separate stories, right, And then we
have this part of us. They're like as celebrities, they're rich,
they're great. You don't think of them as people the
way you would if you heard that about I don't know,
a colleague.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Or a cole worker, your neighbor. Hear what happened to John?
What happened to John?
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
His mom and his sister died same day. And then
it makes you think about what these celebrities and or
athletes deal with. They're human, and we don't factor that
in when we're watching games or when we have these expectations.
We never really care about the other things that they
could be a game. We've talked about this many times,
where an athlete it doesn't need to be death. It
(42:21):
can be going through a divorce, so their kid is
not doing well, their kids sick. There's factors, so always
keep that in mind. Exactly, we got more Coveno on
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to talk quarterbacks. But you heard that justin Herbert story, right,
(01:12):
he was stuck in an elevator. Yes, who would you
least want to be stuck with? It's a great question.
Think about that. Think about it, start thinking about it.
There's a lot of stuck stories. We talked about it
yesterday on our afternoon.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
Show, Suck Suck, Come Back, I I've come back.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Stuck, come Back, I've come back.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
We decided of the three, you can see the full
clip at covid on rich of the three's what's scary
of those astronauts that are stuck it out of space
until next year?
Speaker 2 (01:41):
In Mexico at six Flags or was it Safe Flags?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Down there, they're stuck on the swing because a storm
came in and you guys run your own.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
During a storm. Yeah, horrifying.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Stuck with twelve big NFL players on an elevator. A
lot of stuck stories. So who would you least want
to be stuck with of all the NFL quarterbacks? Think
of that dumb question. We'll get to that. You're ever
in mixed company rich and like everybody gets up at
the bathroom at the same time, you're stuck with the
person who never talks, and you're like, oh, that's the
worst one. I'm gonna use the restaurant. You're like, alright, honey.
(02:14):
Then like her girlfriend's like I'll come with you, and
you're like I'm stuck with the dude. Yeah, its like
someone you really don't know that way, like, you know
what the worst is, you're just looking at that guy.
The worst is when you're stuck small tug with a guy.
And I'm not just saying this goes we're on Fox Sports,
but when you get stuck talking to a guy who's like,
I don't follow sports, and you're.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Like, what am I gonna like a dad at school?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Like we heard, we heard the assembly man, you pumped
about the NFL man week away.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
I don't really care for sports, and.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Oh that that is the longest. What's the longer two
and a half minutes? When the uber says it's on
its way and it says two and a half minutes,
but you're like twelve and a half minutes later, wait
is doing little Spinney circles? Or when you're stuck with
that dude because all you're friends went to the bathroom
and you're stuck with that one guy you have nothing
to talk to.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
That's like that.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
You know what it's like when you pick your kid
up from school and one of the dads like starts
talking to you, but you have nothing in common with
that guy. You just you're looking for your kid to
come out so fast, like I have nothing to talk
to this guy. You look at your kid. You come on, buddy,
let's go still. You know what, Ever, because you're talking
about it, we're gonna get the NFL. But Carinos, you
(03:26):
have a great story about your dad.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
I do. I'll give you one word, Dad Pavarotti.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
It's a quick, thirty second story, but this defines what
we're talking about as far as those dads that don't
talk about sports. So my dad comes to pick me up.
When I was a little kid, I was, you know,
rough housing with one of my buddies. You're probably playing
contrab the eye base base, playing some basses loaded some
(03:55):
I was playing Nintenzo, probably blades up steel. My dad
comes to pick me up, and now he's in the
living room of another dad basically, but my dad wasn't like.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
Dad.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
My dad was a blue collar dad, younger. This dude
was like stuffy older dad, right, yeah, like one of
the books. He was like a buston. And my dad
walks into the house and he's like, hey, come on,
let's go, and I'm like, I'll be right up, dad,
But I make my dad wait like ten minutes, because
I'm in the middle of something and my dad is
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having that Man, I'm stuck here with this stuffy dad moment.
He has no idea what to talk about, and he's
sort of scrambling for things, and he looks and he
sees a picture on the wall of Pavaratti, right, and
I remember it as a picture, by the way, Pavaratti.
This this dad, stuffy guy, this dad, and he had
a picture of Pavaratti and it was lit up, it
was illuminated and everything. This dude was a big Pavaratti fan.
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My dad just happened to see a documentary on Pavarotti,
but he knew nothing about Pavaratti. Again, my dad knew
only about vending machines. He didn't know about Pavaratti. My
dad's a blue collar or so. My dad just making
small talk. He's like, hey, yay, who's that pavar Rucci.
I know that guy. My dad probably thought that was
Ron Jeremy.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right, yeah, I know that guy.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And the dad is like, oh, mister Cavino, I didn't
know you loved Pavaro. Have a seat, sit down. I
walked upstairs to my dad listening to Pavaratti albums with
this dude thinking like, my dad.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Doesn't like Pavaradi. You kidding me?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
My dad squeezed my hand so hard when he came up,
come on, let's go, He said.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Don't you have a do dad again? You you come up?
You better because I made him Wait, that's what happens.
You never want to get stuck with the with the
other lame dad. That's my dad and the pavaradis the Hey, listen,
we have time to think about it round the room.
What NFL team has you confused as hell? What NFL
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team do you look at and say there's one team
that leads this key of you think that? I think
there's a handful.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
There's another number one, Survey says Steve Harvey says. Survey
says number one answer on the board by far, simply
because of the quarterback situation. But it's not only that
they need an offensive tackle. They need another receiver, they
need a cornerback, they need to to improve their special teams.
There's so many question marks with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Were
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they starting when they face the Falcons, It's gonna be
Russell Wilson, But if he slips, then you got Justin fields.
And by the way, that's just me saying that, Yeah,
you know, but you got Justin fields backing them up.
People are gonna be chatting for Justin fields once they
get at home. It's gonna be a sticky situation. And
not only do they need an offensive tackles like I said,
with herbig au and receiver and cornerback to replace rush
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special teams. But like Towey was saying off the air,
we have a pre show meeting in the kitchen. I
was there, still waking up. He thought I wasn't listening,
but he was like, yo, I don't think Mike Tomlin's
gonna last through the year. That's my hot take. Why
do you think that? Two wee by the way, because
he was like, I don't think he's gonna last. There's
so many question marks there, Rich, this is the this
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is the catalyst to the question. So at the start
of it all, like when you think of teams with
the biggest question marks and hardest to predict, is the
Steelers number one?
Speaker 5 (07:14):
Yeah, I mean, like, look, he was already sort of
on the warm sea last year quarterback situation disaster, right,
Like things are just very It's it's unsettling, and I
think it's gonna go soft aware.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I mean you could flip it a little bit and
change your perspective and say, well, those are good problems
to have, right, two guys to choose from, But I's not.
It's like, I'll give you the analogy. It's like, I
hate to always make it about dating, but it's like
dating two average girls and being like cruciala, I choose
how about neither? Hey, you have two job interviews with
jobs you really don't want. Wait for the job, you know,
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like sometimes two mediocre it does not equal one good. Yeah,
and I think that would be most people's number one.
So I got to get that out of the way.
That's sort of why we pose this question anyway.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
So tell me you you.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Think not only will not only will Tom will be
on the hot seat. You think so he does not
continue his over five hundred streak.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
That's my hot take. It's sizzling, sizzling, sizzling. It's like
a fajita coming in the room. There's a lot of
pressure there, yeah, to figure it out. I mean, look,
a lot of people will ask you, like y honest
I'm glad. That's not my job. That's his job. He's
got to figure this out. It doesn't work out, that's
on him and Danny G. I know there's some action
in Vegas right when it comes to the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, the Steelers are the most bet on team to
go over their season win total, which Vegas has said
at eight and a half.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
SAE, so a lot of people but also a lot
of Steelers fans out there, a lot of Steelers fans
doing you know, they're making a bet with their heart,
that's all.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Yeah, that's over eight and a half wins.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Yeah, that's the public saying their coach, Tomlin can't go
under five hundred.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
He never does. Man.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
So I'm just looking at the TV screens too here
in the studio, like everybody's talking about the Steelers because
it's like, well, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Well, what's your team? Danny G. I'll hold mind for
a second. What is your team?
Speaker 3 (09:01):
Is it? And I know you're big Raiders guy, and
you you have a lot more faith in them than
I think a lot of people do.
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Yeah, I'm not going to be a homer. I'm not
going to go that route. The most confusing team to
me is the Miami Dolphins, because besides Tua getting paid,
we know he's got a lot of weapons on offense,
but their defense was always stout and suddenly they lost
Wilkins to my Raiders. Thank you for that, Christian Wilkins,
Robert Hunt, Xavian Howard, Jerome Baker, Andrew van Ginkel who
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was a great piece to that defense, Brandon Jones the safety.
They lost all those pieces on defense. So how is
that going to translate on the field for the Dolphins
this season?
Speaker 7 (09:39):
Has to think Bradley Chubb starting on the pup list,
so he's gonna miss the first four games of the year.
Like they're coming into the season, a lot of losses
in free agency and already injured.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Doesn't look good.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Yeah, but but Mike McDaniel got a glow up though.
Did you see his hair? He looks like a drug
kingpin down in Miami. He's gotta be worth something. And
Danny g I like what you said about the Dolphins.
I feel the same thing about the Steelers. There's a
lot of voids in their roster. They're adding a lot
of new people. You know, we forget that chemistry is
a big part of this, like, you can't just start
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replacing people and all these voids and have all these
new people and expect them to jail right away too.
So there's going to be that transitional period for the
team and how fast are they going to jail? That's awkward.
It's hard to predict. We haven't seen it yet. Hardest
team to predict. You got the Dolphins, Steelers, you got
the Steelers. I mean we're talking about teams where some
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people would say, man, maybe they win. They're six and eleven,
seven and ten, and then other people were saying, no, no
playoff team. I think just based on the USA today,
which means nothing to me. But the USA today, did
they not predict the Jets to win the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2 (10:48):
Yes? Right? Was that right? They predicted the Jets to
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
I look at the Jets as confusing as can be
because I grew up in New York and people, much
like my Mets, people say Jets are gonna Jet there They're.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Still the Jets. J e t Yes, Jets, Jets.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
Jets that there's something about just the stigma of that team.
Aaron Rodgers coming off an injury, but he's still Aaron Rodgers,
but is he still the elite Aaron Rodgers are and
getting older, so you don't know what to predict. Because
they added Mike Williams, they're healthy. Javon Kinlaw, I'm a
nineer fent. He's going to be a big acquisition. Solomon
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Thomas Hassan Reddick like the Jets made some moves. I
feel like the Jets are a playoff team. I think
the Jets for them, what stinks is that they have
to play the forty nine ers week one, and that'll
that's like a weird way. It's like, uh, it's like
a weird place to start, like, hey, let's play the
forty nine ers out west. That's like you draw the
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shark straw and the schedule making. But then after that
the Jets have a little bit of a cake schedule
for a minute. So I think the Jets are a
playoff team. I'm on board with the Jets making the playoffs.
Roger say, you know that's what you're really banking on too.
Going again, I'm gonna take a look at the Jets
schedule and I don't want to do that thing where
we go over every game, but there are very winnable
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games after the forty nine Ers, they play the Niners.
Then they play Get this, because I think these are
like we're talking about a couple of winnable games in
a row. Let's say they drop the opener to the Niners.
I'm a Niners fan. I'm cool with that. Own one,
they play Tennessee. If the Jets have anything they're gonna
they should beat Tennessee right. Then they play the Patriots
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two and one, the Broncos three and one, the Vikings.
If the Jets are what you think they might be,
four and one, then they played the Bills. You could
go four and two, Steelers, five and two, Patriots again,
six and two, Texans give them a lost six and three.
The way we're going is it's looking like the Jets
are a ten to twelve win team based on how
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things are going. So confusion. I say the Jets, but
I'm leaning on the playoff Jets, not the dude. The
Jets are to Jet. They give me seven to ten.
Aaron Rodgers has done I don't believe that. I like, uh,
I like the are still you know, productive, they have
a good team. But aside from Aaron Rodgers and not
knowing what to predict, there's not as many question marks
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as there are with the Steelers as there are with
the Dolphins. Did just play the Cardinal conversation? Did just
say the Cardinals, the Seahawks. They have a couple, you know,
week games down the stretch too. I think I'm on
board with the Jets postseason possibilities. Who are we forgetting?
Who do you want to add to this list that
we're making the teams that are hardest to predict this
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What's up? Wes?
Speaker 3 (13:51):
Thanks for checking out cnrread he goes Sunshine. Trevor Lawrence
and the Jags. They got to show up or that
team's gonna win. That team should with what they built
around Trevor Lawrence. At this point, they're well coached. He's like,
if they don't somehow remember last year. I remember this
specifically because they were six and two going into that
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forty nine Ers game they lost to them. They got
trounced by the forty nine Ers and then went on
a downslide, much like the Eagles season. The Eagles and
the Jags. But you know what, all the bad at
the end of the year, all these teams have that
The Steelers don't an official starting quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
I think if you.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Can't even figure that out, that screams like we don't
know what's going on yet. That's hard to predict. What
do you think about the Chargers music, Ryan, what do
you do you think that? Do you think the Chargers are.
Speaker 7 (14:41):
So the Chargers is similar to what you had said
about the Jets. I want to believe the Chargers aren't predictable,
but everybody here in LA knows that chargering is an adverb,
and so it's almost predictable that regardless of what happens,
you're gonna have a catastrophic the season in the playoffs,
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even going back to the standpoint, even go back to
Stan Humper or not, like there's a way then whether
it's you know, Philip Rivers, even that team does charger.
I'm intrigued by the Chargers because I think it's gonna
be interesting. Obviously, with Jim Harbaugh and Collins A big
fan of Jim Harbaugh, and he's had so much success
everywhere he goes, and I want to see if, as
you guys were talking about earlier, can like Justin Herbert
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really establish himself as like that bona fide top five
guy along with all the other elite quarterbacks. I just
don't find them confusing because I don't I personally don't
have super high expectations for them. Like there's so many
teams in the AFC that we know where like we
know the Chiefs are going to be really good. We
know the Bill should be very good, whether you think
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it's the Ravens or the Bengals in the AFC North,
we know all those teams are going to be very good.
And so I'm like, at best, if the Chargers have success,
what they're going to be like maybe like the sixth
or seventh best team barely getting into the playoffs. So
I don't see a huge range for them. I what
you said earlier. I think the Eagles, I'm like, I
don't know what to expect because for them to go
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from in the Super Bowl to last thing, well, they
started out like ten and one, right, I like that
answer because he again the question is what is hardest
to predict.
Speaker 2 (16:15):
That's hard to predict. You don't know what Eagles you're
gonna get.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Yeah, you have no idea because they had to turn
over both coordinators because that didn't work for Nick Sirianni.
There's all the questions that Sirianni and Jalen Hurts don't
have the best relationship. One of their biggest veteran leaders
on offense, Jason Kelcey's now gone. And so now you're like,
I I actually don't really know what I mean. They
have a lot of talent. I expect that they should
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be good or are they gonna come out and struggle
and then all of a sudden they start pulling apart
like that did at the end of last season.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I love what you said because you could say this
about so many teams, which is why NFL is king. Yeah,
which is why everyone's turning the page. Because like, back
to the Chargers one second, they should be running the
ball a lot to bounce out that offense.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
That's I'm I'm a hardball guy like him. JK.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Dobbins, Gus Edwards, Like who did they even have Like
did they have an elite running game right now, to
compliment Justin.
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Herbert, they're in salary cap hell, and there's no more
Mike Williams to throw the ball to, no more Keenan
Allen to throw the ball to. So you got to
look at those weapons. It might take another offseason for
Harbaugh to get the salary cap mess figured out and
get the right additions to that offense for his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:30):
Oh, because we don't know Anthony Richardson and if he's
going to make time now, that's a good one. I mean,
I love the fact that we've named like five teams
and we could keep going on and on.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Right, we can't make some fun. That's what makes it fun.
That's what makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
The Harbaugh where, I think because he's gone places and
has had resulted pretty quickly. He went to the forty
nine ers and took them from three and thirteen to
thirteen and three. The next year he went to Michigan
won a national title. It's like, wait, the peace out
Chargers fans. I hope their expectation is too high, because
that would be like doing it three times in a roll.
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Like he's a great coach, great Khakis, great programs, had
a great preseason. I mean, did you see how cool
he was under pressure when he was stuck in an
elevator for two hours? It's two hours. He didn't even crack.
I'm cool, guys, relaxed. There was a test, so it's
a good Yeah, it's a good sign moving forward.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
He worked on his footwork for the whole two hours. Yeah,
he was getting some practice in there. That's the true story.
Speaker 3 (18:26):
By the way, stuck in an elevator for two hours, uh,
with fifteen other people.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
So again we asked you. Actually, I think there were.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
All great answers, but again, the hardest to predict is
it the Steelers? Do you feel any other team here?
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wrapping up the teams, the NFL teams that are hardest
to predict. Now the hardest to predict is obviously the Steelers.
Everybody's talking about it. It's not just us. Everybody's talking
about the Steelers and what's going on there and all
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the voids they need to fill. I already explained, you
already know the quarterback situation, but they need an offensive tackle, receiver, cornerback,
they got to improve on special teams, so they got
like five voids they have to fill. That's a lot
of moving parts and a lot of headaches for Tom,
and I see a lot of question marks, a lot
of difficulties in their future, not rooting against Russell Wilson
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or fields for that matter. But I think that's the
hardest team to predict because you just don't know. We'll
ask yourself a parallel type of question. Is it also
just a alt of them being in arguably the best
division in football? Like they got to play the Ravens twice,
they got to play the Bengals twice, and they got
to play the Browns twice, which, by the way, is
another question mark. Is Deshaun Watson, the guy that got
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paid all that money, is he worth it? Is that
Cleveland Browns team gonna deliver this year? That's and then
it's funny you can't even bring him up and possibly
the top five. Yeah, you know, does endless answers to
this stupid question of what is the biggest mystery going
into the twenty twenty four NFL season, Because there's a
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name I'm gonna throw you right now, and you could say, yes,
I agree, this is not a playoff team, but will
this guy give the team future hope? You know, sometimes
your team could lose, but you're like, all right, well
we got the pieces, we just need to develop it.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
Now.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Yeah, green Bay, now they're already there. No, I mean
last year, Yeah, last year, green Bay Now, yeah they
discovered all right, Jordan loves the guy this year, Danny
g in your division in the AFC Wes, we talked
about the Chiefs, We talked about your Raiders.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 3 (22:03):
He's like a good you know placeholder bow Knicks is
is Sean Payton and bow Knicks at the beginning of
something good. Is this could be grand opening, grand closing,
or could be like he got his guy.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
I mean, all signs point to the fact that he's
going to be a successful NFL QB. Bow Knicks was
the guy that secretly the Broncos front office wanted. Remember
that story that they didn't even leak that to the
rest of their staff because they were so tight limped
on that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
They were playing chess while playing checkers pretty much.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
And so this is the guy that the Broncos fabulous
new head coach wanted.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
So let's see how he uses him. I'm not trying
to be all over the place, but I'm just sure nature.
I'm an ad D type of guy. I'm sorry, just
how I was raised. I'm looking at the divisions, and
we talked about the competitiveness of let's say the AFC
North or even for that matter, the NFC North. Everyone's
especially Colin. We're filling for him. He's high on Caleb Williams.
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Does that team have a playoff chance? Did the Lions
take a step back? Are the Packers gonna pick up
where they left off? There's so many interesting questions, But
in that AFC West, we're all locked in, like, all right,
it's Chiefs. But then after the Chiefs, you could order
those three other teams in a multitude of ways, and
I'd be like, yeah, that looks right. We were just
talking off the air, Rich while you were hob nobbing
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in the hallway, Towey and I were saying, maybe this
is the year they don't win the West, and would
you say, hey, they got It's gotta be sometime he can't.
So yeah, I mean, listen, I'm not not a guarantee
we think that way certainly, of course, but you never know.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Man.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
I'm certainly not wishing ever injury on a player because
that's that's just trash behavior. But what if what if
Mahomes or Kelsey, your key players, Chris Jones, if someone
goes down and they stumble to nine and eight or
ten and seven and they're a wild card, or that's
possible Tom Brady, remember he missed the season and they
that was the one year the Patriots didn't make the playoffs.
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There was a year I'm a Niners fan as a kid,
Montana went down, Steve Young went down, if you remember,
Steve Bono was the quarterback, and they missed the playoffs
on a tiebreaker. That forty nine Ers dynasty missed the
playoffs one year. The Patriots missed the playoffs. One year
it happens.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
This is a dream scenario, But what if the Raiders
defense continues to look the way they did on Christmas Day.
They were all over Mahomes. He made errors in that game.
That that was the game, Santa, just reality is you're right,
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But that was the game that woke the Chiefs up,
that led them to their Super Bowl victory. That Kelsey
said that woke our asses up. No one remember they
added Christian Williams, the one of the big high motor
guys in all of football, to go next to Max Crosby,
who's on the field even more than Wilkins. Those two
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guys leading that defense the Raiders. Here's a hot take.
The Raiders defense could finish in the top five of
defenses in all the NFL. And remember the complaint with
Derek Carr stands. They never had a good defense when
Carr was there. Imagine Carr with a defense like this.
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Yeah, you know what, I will say, there's not a
person outside of Kansas City that's like unless you're a
Mahomes superfan kid and you're like I Thatt Mahames, no
one wants a three peat. I'm a Niners fan. I
don't want them to do what Montana couldn't do. Patriots
fans don't want him to do what Brady couldn't do.
Steelers fans don't want that. Any team at one point
had a great dynasty. They don't want a three peat.
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No one wants a three peat. It's it's like this,
you know, when Steph and the Warriors were just winning
every year, It's like, all right, enough's enough, and I
think we love watching them. But I don't think anyone
would cry if knocked him out. If Lamar did. If
you know they laid an egg in the wildcard round,
that's boring for football, to be honest. It's as simple
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as that.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Yeah. I call it the Clitchko theory.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
There was a tenure of the clitch Goos that made
the heavyweight division boring, which is bad for boxing because
people want to tune into heavyweights. They knew they were
going to win. The clitch Goes were the best. The
Chiefs keep winning. It's just boring for the NFL. But
the AFC is so stacked, but no one wants the Chiefs.
All right, let's do it some herd Line news line.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
This is the herd Line news All.
Speaker 7 (26:36):
Right, guys, we'll pick up real quick where you guys
just left off.
Speaker 2 (26:40):
That's Kansas City.
Speaker 7 (26:41):
One thing we didn't talk about is the departure of
one of their great cornerbacks, the gerious Sneid.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Maybe that could lead to part of the downfall there.
Speaker 7 (26:49):
But Sneid obviously was a part of their back to
back Super Bowl champion defense, one of the key positions
in the secondary, with Chris Jones holding it down up front.
But Snead, he's feeling hurt. He didn't want to have
to leave Kansas City. So here's what he had to say.
After first they gave him the franchise tagged and they
ended up trading him to Tennessee.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
He got a new contract with Tennessee.
Speaker 7 (27:12):
But here's what sneed had to say about having to
leave the Chiefs quote. I didn't talk to them. I
was upset, man, I was upset. Kansas City. That's like
my first love. They showed me the way, they showed
me how to be a champion. They gave me two rings,
and you know what, I was bitter. I was angry
because I wanted to stay in that environment around everybody
that I was used to.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
Yeah, and sometimes you don't know the impact these guys have.
In the locker room in the clubhouse, we were talking
about Danny GE's Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
The other day, Jason Hayward.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
He was a guy that was instrumental in that Cubs
twenty sixteen World Series. Some guys bring a team together.
Think about any work environment. There's people that are good
camaraderie people, and maybe you lose something with Sneid. He
was part of back to back champions.
Speaker 7 (27:55):
So I mean, listen, the Chiefs have been the team
to be the past like five years, right, but like
at some point those margins start getting smaller and smaller
and smaller, and like we talk about this with the Patriots. Yes,
they won six Super Bowls, but they also win a
gap of ten years where they didn't win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
People forget then.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So you're reminded of that if you watch the Tom
Brady the documentary Man in the Arena and you're like, oh,
well there was a there was a gap. It wasn't
like they won one every three years and then that
lasted eighteen years or whatever.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
It's it's they went t street season.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
The Patriots won a few Super Bowls when you had
a flip phone, and then they went ten years and
they won again when you had like the iPhone eight.
Speaker 2 (28:41):
It was that's how you can engauge the Patriot exactly.
Speaker 7 (28:44):
So it's you know, listen, obviously, Chiefs are a great
drafting team. They have a lot of great young players
in the secondary that they're trying to fill this in with,
and maybe it all works out for them, but you know,
Snead obviously still a little hurt about having to get
shipped out of Kansas City. All right, this one's for you,
rich Oh. Trent Williams and the forty nine Ers remain
(29:05):
at an m pass.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
That's right.
Speaker 7 (29:06):
Jeremy Fowlers reporting that Williams is continuing to hold strong
and refuses to show up in San Francisco without an
adjustment to his current contract.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
I hope, I hope this is not a carbon copy
of Chris Jones last year with the Chiefs where they
lost their first game and they're like, say, Joe's I
could see the forty nine Ers getting pressured without Trent
Parties run around, get.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
His head cut off, and they lose to the Jets.
Speaker 3 (29:34):
And then then all of a sudden, Kyle Shanahan and
uh and the front office is like, all right, you know,
John Lunch, get it done.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Yeah, let's do it before that, please, let's do it.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
Trent Williams might be the most important guy in that team,
a team full of superstars. Trent Williams could be the
most important guy one hundred percent. I don't think I
don't think that's crazy or a hot take by any means.
Speaker 7 (29:56):
Way more important than Ayuku Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, not
even clo. I mean outside of just the inherent value
you have to give to the quarterback. If you take
that away, without a doubt, Trent Williams, Kyle Shanahan's offense
doesn't have time to percolate if Trent Williams.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Is in blocking the left side.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
That's right, all those plays unfold with deebo and McCaffrey
because Trent Williams gives Purty time.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
It's right. We'll wrap up with this.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
We talked a little bit of the Patriots, and it's
going to be the first NFL season we will not
see Bill Belichick on the sidelines of New England for
over two decades now. Belichick also known for being the
mastermind behind building those rosters that won six Super Bowls
for the Patriots, but now a member of the media.
Here's what Belichick had to say about some of the
challenges that the Patriots are now facing in free agency,
(30:45):
he'd said, this taxa choose its Virtually every player, even
the minimum players are basically getting close to a million dollars. Now,
once you hit that million dollar threshold, you have to
pay more state taxes in massachuse sits. So that's just
another thing you're contending for. This isn't Tennessee, Florida, Nevada
(31:06):
teams without a state income tax. Those are things you're
getting hit on pretty hard by the agents.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
I wonder if it would make no sense. I don't
think they can do it.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
CAVI, you know, you ever think they'd make an adjustment
per state, per salary cap. That's too complicated. But there
there tends to be a disadvantage. But I remember when
a Rod maybe when he signed with the Texas Rangers,
like no taxes in those state taxes in Texas.
Speaker 2 (31:30):
Yeah, you save a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Maybe you or I guys making regular selleries one thing,
But when you're making tens of millions of dollars a year,
they're not going to make that adjustment. Now, plus is
a bad look to the fans. There's no way anybody
else there has to pay the tax.
Speaker 7 (31:43):
Yeah, like we're gonna give everyone a benefit.
Speaker 3 (31:46):
Noah, just kidding out you guys, not your regular guys,
the Patriots. I mean, it's it's sounds sounds sounds nice,
but no, just another uh, just another thing that's going
to hold the Patriots back as they try and find
their way in the post Belichick, post Brady era. Parachuice,
it's tax uices. Thank you, Ryan, appreciate me, Ryan Music.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the
herd Line News. I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
Colin usually does the headline news with J Mack. Do
you play pickup basketball like him? Because I do not
feel like his Instagram story is like basketball. Oh yeah?
Have you ever seen him ball in person? Is he
any good?
Speaker 7 (32:29):
I actually have not seen him play in person, but
if if it's any gauge on how much he cares
about it, he's got to be at least pretty good.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Is he going all out?
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I mean all out? Oh not like you who
takes uncontested threes at the gym? Yes, I mean I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
I don't go full speed really on anything at this
He's going. I'm, by no means an old guy, but
I'm not trying to get hurt, you know, what I mean,
he's going on, how old.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Is J thirty forty something? Yeah, he's in and he's
going on, we're around the same age. So I not
only is he going all out?
Speaker 7 (33:03):
Why Sometimes during the break he's like, oh, man, I'm
watching film on this team we got coming up.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I'm like, okay, oh, that's too much pressure and you're
supposed to having. He's like the guys. He even takes
some shots. He's like the guys that I play. I
play softball twice week, and I think that's a lot.
There's guys that play five days a week and they'll
say things like, you know, you're hitting the cage this week.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I'm like, hitting the cage this week? We play Sunday morning,
sofball hitting the cage. I'm going out to dinner with
my wife and kids? Am I hitting the cage?
Speaker 7 (33:30):
Say?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
I'll do your best, That's not it, But I'm like
going all out. It's like, come on. I wanted to
ask because Ryan did a great job filling in for
j Max. You know what here, but do you put
Jmak in the same category as me playing softball him
playing basketball? No, the way you're describing it, he takes
he takes his men's leagues very serious. Ah man, Look,
(33:52):
if that's what keeps him in shape, keeps them happy.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I'm not judging by any means. I never even met
him in person.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
I hear he's a great guy, but I'm saying for
for car cortionary reasons, like you got to be a little.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Careful as you get old.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I'm sure you don't go out there and compete, but
for me, my priority would be staying healthy. Like it's
all funny games. So this guy rolls an ankle. Yeah,
and when he's hobbling into the herd. The one thing
he did have happened. This was probably about a year ago,
maybe a year and a half ago.
Speaker 7 (34:15):
He caught an elbow and had to get like a
stitch or two right above his eyebrow.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
That bad the.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
Eyebrow elbow is Like, that's a that's a basketball injury
right there. Oh absolutely, But do you put Cavino. We'll
move on, we'll talk some NFL and stuff, But do
you put all rex sports real in the same category.
Becus Cavino's the first to bust my chops about look
at you and your old guys playing softball. I'm like, dude,
you can sort of have fun and be lazy playing
Sunday softball. I'm not trying to downplay how serious you
are basketball. And he's probably playing with a lot of
(34:43):
younger dudes. When you're out to court, all these younger
dudes roll up and they want to start really getting
aggressive with you, and then your competitive instincts kick in.
It could be it could be a little more dangerous
than your than your softball. I think if you're playing
any rex sport, I'm giving you quick because hey, you're
staying active and you have a hobby. So I think
(35:05):
I'm putting him all in the same category. Softball, basketball league.
I think guy's playing pickleball, if you golf. Anything you
do to stay active with sports when you're thirty five
to forty plus is a good thing.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
I have a question, you need to do one of
these things real quick, though.
Speaker 3 (35:20):
My brother plays in a men's baseball league, right, and
I guess he was playing well one day and a
scout actually approached him.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
This is recently, right, I swear to god.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
I just don't know what you would do, though, So
it's kind of like that fantasy you have, like oh yeah, yeah,
maybe someone will see me. So the scout came up
to him and offered him like an indie ball contract.
Now he would have to go to Gary, Indiana for
the last forty games of the season. And it's just
some local men's league in New Jersey, right, And You're like,
(35:51):
we want you to play for the team. My brother's like,
no way, for real.
Speaker 7 (35:56):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
My brother's in his thirties. He's kind of a boza
and he does appraisals. He's like, you know if that
means I would have to like quit my job, and
I'm like, yo, but that's kind of cool, Tommy. Right,
I'm like, think about it. He goes the one thing
I really was like hooked on. He's like, I would
be in Baseball Reference sots, like if you googled him
would be there. And I'm like thinking, that would be
(36:18):
sort of worth it in itself to have your stats
on Baseball Reference as a pro like you played at
this level. No one could ever take that away, and like,
there's forty games, go and have fun.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
He's like, no, I can't do it. You know. I'm like,
all right, man, but I thought, what would you do? Rich?
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Sure say, It's not like he's such a professional that
he can't dip out for forty games. He also needs
his money. I mean, he's an adult and everything, but
that would be a once in a lifetime. Ay man,
I did it at a decent level where Google me.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
It's right there.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Look Tommy Cavino six foot two, twenty I bet it
a Let's give him some props. I bet it too,
eighty in the indie league. Listen, it sounds fun in theory.
He still gotta pay your bills. He's a grown up.
He doesn't have a nice serious girlfriend. Who's aw his
girlfriend's a lawyer, right. He said, he's hey, honey, I
know you like the Breadwinner. I'm gonna go play indie
baseball and Gary Indiana. Oh it's the Frontier League, that's
(37:12):
what it's called. He goes, Yeah, man, I was having
a game. He goes, he's probably it's probably the back
tier league. The kid was pumping high eighties tonight and
I was ripping him. I ripped him twice year.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
He goes. The guy came up. I'm sort of pumped.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
I would have a baseball reference if I did it,
And I was like, yo, man, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 6 (37:28):
You only get one shot. Florida ceiling windows will always
be there.
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
No. By the way, Kevino's brother's such such a dufist
of an appraiser. Yeah, he's a he's a male himbo
bimbo himbo. He's sort of Kiani kind of. He does
appraisals for houses, and he wrote down Florida ceiling windows
and everyone's like, what is Florida ceiling within us? He goes,
(37:53):
Florida's do you mean Florida ceiling windows? I thought they
would called Florida ceiling windows to wee view the palm trees.
This is the guy praising my house. Maybe he should
go play me. Why not go for it and just
have fun and get his name.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
In the book.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Well, hey, with that said, play played something, golf, pickleball, softball, basketball,
Stay active if you love sports. Don't be that old
guy that's like hunched over the I'm too young. Right. Well, hey,
we got more kabin on rich In for The Herd
next right here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays
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Speaker 8 (38:37):
As everybody knows, we're the hosts of the award winning
Polly and Tony Foodsco Show.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (38:41):
But instead of us telling you how great we are,
here's how Dan Packrick described us when he came on
our show.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
Quick, knowledgeable and funny, opinionated.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
What what are you doing interrupting our promo? Yeah, he
wasn't talking about you. You took those clips totally out
of context.
Speaker 8 (38:57):
Oh yeah, well after this promo, I'm gonna take you
out and beat you.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
Let me put this into context. Shut up.
Speaker 8 (39:04):
Yeah, anyway, just listen to the Paully and Tony Fusco
Show on IoT Radio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get
your podcasts.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yea, yeah, the CNR show, Covino and Rich and for
calling on the Herd normally two to four on the West,
five to seven on the East. But love feeling in
for Colin. You got a good crew, y'all, Towey Bryan.
Does Colin appreciate you enough? Good guys? We hope so, yes,
of course, yes, yes. Speaking of Towey and Rich, you
(39:32):
mentioned Jason Hayward.
Speaker 6 (39:34):
We had a big topic about him last week with
the Dodgers and how he's a great clubhouse guy, struggled
a little bit at the plate besides that dramatic game
winning home run he had for the Dodgers not too
long ago. It looks like the Astros are nearing a
deal to sign Hayward clubhouse guy too.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
You're an Astros guy, house guy.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
They've been a mess in the outfield this year with
Kyle Tucker out and injuries galore.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
So we'll see it goes to a Chinese farmer story,
rich or should I say Tom Brady's Chinese farmer story?
Maybe maybe like, man, what a tough break for Heyward.
Maybe maybe maybe he was look at them now, and
you know what that Astros team. I heard Steve Phillips
former metch GM back in the day. He does broadcasting,
I think on serious Exam with Mad Dog. Yeah, and
(40:19):
Steve Phillips when your Astro stunk in the beginning of
the year, I'll give him credit.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
I like giving credit where its due.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
They were trash and he's like, the Astros will still
win that division, You'll see. And I remember thinking, like,
if you're giving Steve Phillips credit, can we just say
his hair is impeccable? I mean that is a white
pompadoor of joy.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
Dude.
Speaker 3 (40:35):
I mean he's the only second to Leslie Nielsen. And
let's be honest, Leslie Nielsen and Phil Donahue both passed away.
Now rest in peace. Steve Phillips not have the best
white pompador. You know that might be her hottest take
of the day. And if you don't know who Steve
Phillips is, look him up. Give me a silver, Give
me a silver Fox. Anderson Cooper don't got a pompadoor.
That dude has a perfect like business cut. Anyway, we
(40:59):
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Speaker 2 (41:15):
Now Rich, we have lots to get to next.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
Now we're giving away prizes NFL trivia the best deals
you got in life. There's an airline story we have
to talk about, just a random story that stood out
to me and it does tie into sports a little bit.
Just hear me out because we have a few minutes. Okay,
did you hear about Mariah Carey, hear what happened to her?
Speaker 2 (41:34):
This is awful? Did she lost two family members in
the same day.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Mariah Carey's mom died this week and her sister died
on the same day. Separate stories, right, And then we
have this part of us. They're like as celebrities, they're rich,
they're great. You don't think of them as people the
way you would if you heard that about I don't know,
a colleague.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Or a cole worker, your neighbor. Hear what happened to John?
What happened to John?
Speaker 7 (41:58):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (41:59):
His mom and his sister died same day. And then
it makes you think about what these celebrities and or
athletes deal with. They're human, and we don't factor that
in when we're watching games or when we have these expectations.
We never really care about the other things that they
could be a game. We've talked about this many times,
where an athlete it doesn't need to be death. It
(42:21):
can be going through a divorce, so their kid is
not doing well, their kids sick. There's factors, so always
keep that in mind. Exactly, we got more Coveno on
rich In for Colin and they heard next right here
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