August 27, 2024 • 37 mins
Dan and Aaron in for C & R as they discuss the rant filled with curses by Cowboys' owner Jerry Jones. Monse Bolanos, Aaron and Dan share discuss the way Lebron James wants to be addressed on the court by Bronny. Plus, Dan and Aaron share their thoughts on Caitlin Clark as she has set another WNBA record for rookies.
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Now, you know, and can On Rich good together. It's
not just Covino and Rich. You know. Iowa Sam is here,
all right? Run up applause for Iowa Sam. Yes, Jason
Stewart is here as well. Yeah. Watson Bolagno's at the
news desk.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Clack. I would say, I'm not speaking today here. I
speak through my drops, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think he's gonna have something to say in about
forty five minutes when we talk about some Caitlin Clark.
But there's another hot topic on the table, and that
is the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I don't think this has manufactured.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dallas Cowboys talk when Jerry Jones talks Aaron. Jerry Jones
had a lot to say in a preseason piece leading
up to the regular season that starts in a little
over a week. But Jerry Jones, in speaking with the
all DLLs all Dallas dot com, if you will, had
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a lot to say, not necessarily about Dak or ceedee lamb.
That's grabbing the headlines. It's the language that he used
in having this conversation with Clarence Hill, longtime Cowboys beat reporter,
And I'm reading what we're talking about, and it's Jerry
Jones defending himself as a GA as a whole, and
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for a guy who has made such a mark on
the NFL that all of the other gms in the
National Football League look up to, he's sitting there having
to defend his own record of it as a general manager,
which is lukewarm at best. But Jerry Jones seemed really
on the defensive in speaking with Clarence Hill. It was
interesting Aaron and hearing the conversations that Jerry Jones had
(02:25):
and just reading this. Let me just read you a
line from this, okay, and I'm quoting Can you do it?
Jerry Jones impression Jira Ji, Yeah, I can't. I know
Jason Smith tries. I'm still not sure if Jason is
succeeding or not, but I know that he tries. He said, quote,
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I've done it all. I have an ordinate amount of
confidence that bleep. If anybody can figure out how to
get this bleep done, I can figure out how to
get it done. I've been there every which way from Sunday,
and I've busted my butt a bunch a bunch. And
there's nobody living that's out cutting and shooting that can't
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give you a bunch of times that they busted their bleep.
So hell no, there's nobody that could bleep and come
in here and do all the contracts and be a
GM any better than I can. That sounds like he's
being positive and aggressive to maybe Jerry Jones. To me,
it sounds absolutely like he's on the defensive.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know what I was actually thinking of while you
were reading that. It's like, you know that like Sunday.
It's like, you know, maybe week one of the NFL
season and you're getting getting ready, maybe you made some
breakfast and you did whatever, and then your wife or
your girlfriend Whoever's like, yeah, I'm gonna need you to
go clean the garage and if you could also take
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out the trail and it gives you like thirty things
to do, honeydewes or whatever you call them. And you're like,
all right, if you bleep and say that I need
to bleep and do this right bleepin' now, then I
guess I'm gonna put turn off the bleeping TV and
focus on whatever you need, sweetheart. Like that the way
that it even sounds in word let alone, actually like
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when you actually hear the audio, it does feel very defensive,
and like I said, it just reminds me of maybe
a few times where I've lost my cool in everyday
moments of life.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is again, like this is here, we are.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We are a little over.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
A week from the start of the regular season. You
just got the seedee lamb deal done. This question is
obviously what you're going to do about DAK. But I
think you've answered those questions. Yeah, I don't think he's
going to get a new deal. It sure as he
sounds like they're going to go into the season with
him playing out his contract and then they'll deal with
everything afterwards. So what's done is done. It's the season
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ahead and how the Cowboys are going to do it.
But Jerry Jones has got rabbit ears. He's hearing what
everybody's saying. And we know his love for talking with
his radio show that he does weekly and Stephen Jones
talks to the media. We know he loves the attention
and he loves the attention that it brings to the
Dallas Cowboys. But this is a season where you have
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got a lot of questions about how things are run,
and instead of the guy who's running the team focusing
on the upcoming season, he's worried about what people think
about his resume or his stat sheet as a general
manager when he's the actual owner of the team, And
that to me is so odd, Like if you're going
to do a sit down with Jerry Jones, I completely
appreciate Aaron his candidness. Again, I've said it one hundred times.
(05:31):
I love it when athletes, when coaches, gms and owners
and whoever are one hundred percent honest with us instead
of giving us cliches. But this is such a about
Jerry Jones piece. It's not about the Dallas Cowboys as
the Dallas Cowboys are about to start their season, and
I'm just taken aback by he's not on tilt about
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the team failing in the playoffs. He's on tilt of
the way that he has done a GM job. You know,
it's two different things. They're not the same. There's running
like you could blame stuff on the players, you could
blame stuff on the coaches. On the whole deal. It's
nothing about how they got crushed by the Packers. It's
all about him being the GM and could anybody do
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their bleeping job? And he's working his butt off, even
though he used a different term, Like that's what that
whole piece is and those exchanges are. And it's just
surprising to me that he's worried about his resume than
he is on what the Cowboys are actually going to
do in the standings in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
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off plus free shipping. And it's funny, Dan, because when
you talk about Jerry Jones, I think it's about his resume.
I also just think he just sounds like an old Like.
I know, I'm making all these these parallels and references,
and I know, I guess that's what we do in
sports talk radio. But when I heard this, like I said,
it just sounds like a grumpy old man that's grumpy
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about whatever. And I don't know if it's because he
feels like he's being doubted, if it feels like his
he feels like his time has past. People are doubting him,
people are questioning him, people are saying he shouldn't have
the responsibility. So I think it's interesting that one it
seems as though the priorities are out of whack in
terms of what is best for the Cowboys. In other words,
like you said, uh, you know, should we be mad
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about the playoff eggs. It should we be mad about
bringing back Mike McCarthy. Instead, he's mad about criticism that
he got for how long it took to sign Ceed Lamb.
But it also just sounds like it, like I said,
like an old guy that's trying to prove, hey, I
still got it, I still have this, I still have that.
And then again to your point, I think it just
displaces what's actually important when it comes to talking about
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the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Jerry Jones is not like you or me, and there's
there's nobody really like Mary Jones. Like even in the
even in the group of NFL owners that you have,
I don't think that there's I think that there are
very very few owners and you know, maybe Robert Craft somewhat.
You know Craft obviously as the Super Bowls. But there
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are owners that do have more money. You know, the
Walton ownership with the Broncos and Jody Allen and Seattle,
you know, is kind of a lot of cash. But
it's the the Jerry Jones experience. It's the history, it's
everything that comes with the Dallas Cowboys, and it's the
brand of the Dallas Cowboys. So even in that small
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group of you know, thirty one owners. If you want
to take the packers out of it, or ownership groups,
you have one that sure seems to stand out amongst
the others, and and the owner that most of the
owners end up looking up to or follow the path
of because of his influence and success. Yet he comes
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to this point and I think this is also so
what is so intriguing about this because he's so not
like us, but in a way he's like us because
of the language that he used. And I'm not talking
about English, I'm talking about his French. You know, to
cuss in that article and do it multiple times says
a lot. And when when you choose to swear, you
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are you are doing it for a reason. And him
being so defensive and using the opportunity to use swear
words and cuss words in that article that he knew
was going to be published, I know it feels like
it's a real moment, But that tells me he's even
more on tilt than they actually than the comments actually
were on the surface, crazy stuff from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Crazy stuff And you know it's just un you know,
it's just unownerly, right. It is like you know, you
think of these owners as these uber successful business men
or women and the way they conduct themselves. And again,
you know, like even think Robert Kraft, it was weird
seeing him wanting to take a shot with Bill Belichick
on the Tom Brady roast. You know, it was like,
that's not what an owner is supposed to do. Just
(10:08):
trying to think off the top of my head, some
of the other ones. You know, Arthur Blank seems like
a just a very like, modest, hard working businessman. I
can't I can't think of every owner in the league
at this particular moment, but I think that's what also
stands out as well. I think I think it shows
a little bit of uh, yeah, I still run this place,
you know, kind of machismo or whatever, but also kind
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of the exact opposite of, uh, maybe what we would
think an owner would be doing.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Were you thrown back at all by the custards?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Was I thrown back by it? Yeah? Not really, No,
I mean because he goes a little because he goes
off script, because again he's not again, think of the
whatever orderly and proper owner that you think of when
you think of professional sports owner. He's not that. So
(10:58):
I wasn't totally surprise, But I think what I was
more surprised by is the part that you led the
segment with Dan, which was that he appears to be
genuinely offended by people that didn't think he could get
the job done than the manner in which he presented,
you know, kind of how he presented himself.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think this is what got me with the swearing,
and I think there's actually a bigger cussing argument or
conversation that we need to have here, and I know
he had one recently on the show, But there's things
that have opened up in the language that you use.
He's known Clarence Hill for decades. Clarence Hill's covered the
cowboys forever, So there's a there is a there is
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a they know each other, they are comfortable with each other.
Jerry Jones knows who he's talking to and could probably
use language around Clarence Hill that maybe he went with
a you know, a reporter that was new on the scene.
But it's also the repeated use of the words, like
in this piece, the effort was used multiple times. You know,
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the S word that we covered up was used a
time or two. You know, he didn't say, but multiple
times in terms of the words that he used, so
he knows what he's doing. But if you're in that setting,
unless you're trying to make a point, you're not using
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those those words as as freely as I think you
normally would, even if it is with somebody who's been around,
you know, for twenty five years. It kind of makes
me think of like comedians like, the less blue you are,
the more well you're received, because you're not relying on
these swear words that end up kind of trying to
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enhance your act. Now, if you use it here or
there to enhance a joke, maybe it has more of
an effect. But if you're just relying on that, I
think it completely waters down what you're saying. And in
a way here I think Jerry Jones is almost watering
down what he's saying by using cuss words.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well don't you think it could be the opposit though, too,
is that we kind of know he's actually like legitimately
pissed off by the coverage of this based on the
language that he's using.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes, but I think he wants us to know, okay,
that he knows that you know that, Hey, if I
swear a lot, you know, and I use these words
or he's either on edge or he wants people to know.
It's one of the two. And neither of them are
good looks, you know. And it's funny with cussing because
I'm doing a broadcast remotely right now at my mom's place.
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I'm forty seven years old. I cannot comfortably swear in
front of my mom. Forty seven grown adults have been
for twenty six years. I cannot comfortably swear in front
of my mom. Yesterday I went golfing erin I hit
some bad shots. I had a caddy who is next
to me, and you know what, I may have let
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one slip after hitting a bad shot, and I thought, man,
is this guy offended by that? Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know, should I have not said said that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Non? I'm like, well, he's a caddy, he's probably he's
heard every word in the book. So I kind of
moved off of that. But there there is a pause
in terms of like how you cuss as well, and
and I just yeah, it's just it doesn't flow as
as easily like you and I maybe talking shop before
the show where Jason or Sam or Monsey and you know, yeah,
those those words fly. But if we're having a conversation
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or we're doing something, we're doing a podcast, those those
words don't necessarily come out as easy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, it was funny. I was interviewing someone for something
the other day and he mentioned, off the top, oh, yeah,
you know, my father's a pastor and blah blah blah
and this and that. But I am someone you know,
when there's not a mic in front of me and
I'm professional. Is that when we're in a casual setting,
you know, I, if I'm comfortable with you, I might
I might let one or two loose. You know, I
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grew up in the Northeast. Swearing a kind of second
nature to me. You know, descriptive, you know, adjective, verbs,
you know, nouns, whatever you need. They fit all they
fit all the classifications there. And so it was funny,
like I caught myse and this was a young kid,
like very nice, Like I didn't know if he was
impressionable or not.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm sure he has certainly heard the words, but I
don't know whatever. So it's like, you know, I just
I caught myself. I was like, maybe I should just
clean this up a little bit. And you know, I'm
being casual and I'm joining the conversation, but I'm also like,
I got to be careful with what I say here.
So it is amazing how he just how you use
said words just really speak to again, what setting are
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you in? Who are you with? To Jerry's point, what
what tone are you trying to get across? But it's
funny because swear words can be used to get get
positive emotion like what's the famous Tom Brady let's eff
and go, but then you have negative emotion like Jerry Jones.
So very interesting, you know, use of the English language
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to say the least some of these words.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The show's executive producer today is Jason Stewart. Where do
you stand on swearing? And Jerry Jones is swearing?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Jason, I was gonna say that. You know, Doug does
a podcast, The End the Bonus Podcast on the iHeartRadio network,
Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, And one of the things that kind
of talked him into doing this podcast is that you
could swear. So Doug and I we swear often on
that podcast, and it's liberating. I've realized in recent months
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that I love cussing. I love cursing. It's a great
way to make a point, it's a great way to
use humor. So I've fallen in love with cursing. I
learned at a relatively early age. My mom allowed me
to swear pretty early. I think it was like my
sophomore year in high school when I first did it.
And then once you break that, yeah, break through it,
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so yeah, then you can never take it back. And
I completely agree with your take on this, Jerry Jones
saying down, I could not be more in sync with
what you have to say about it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's funny because I remember swearing in front of my
mom when I was a sophomore in high school, and
that did not open any floodgates. In fact, the dam
was built twenty feet higher. When I let one fly,
I forgot to turn the lights on as we were
driving from the five and dime five and dime near
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the west side of town. We were leaving, I didn't
turn my lights on, and I said, bleep, I forgot
to turn on my lights And she said, Daniel, when
did you start using that word? You know? And so
I still remember where I was and as I said, now,
that was gosh, that was thirty some years ago, and
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I still remember that point. It's I still just have
a tough time doing it. Jason talks about doing it
on the podcast. I can't do it in a microphone.
In this business, it is so difficult for me to do,
Like if I was to talk just because you are told,
you know, you can't say these words on the air,
like when you have that physical radio microphone in front
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of you. It to me, is there, like there's there.
I don't think that there's any way that I could
swear because I'm just so cognizant of that microphone.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It is amazing how you just it's you know, for
people who aren't in our business, it's just so instinctive.
Like I actually I was thinking about this as I
knew we were going to talk about it. Is I
remember one of the first shows that I did ever
here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, you're you're you're
busting chops in the back with the people that you're
gonna work with, and I was working with the host
I won't name his name, but uh, okay, you know
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it was anything bad, it was it was it was
our our mutual friend and your podcast co host Mike
Harmon and he's like, hey, just you know, make sure
you don't bring that to air, and uh, you know,
because I was dropping a few a few of those
and he didn't really know me, and maybe I should
have been a little bit more responsible since I didn't
really know him. But he's like, yeah, just just make
sure you tone it down before you come on Aaron.
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I think, I was like, And thankfully we are six
years into the experience of working for Fox Sports Radio
in some way, shape or form, and knock on wood,
I have not had my Jerry Jones incident just yet.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Maazi Belanos, were you on cuss words?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I love them, figure you know what?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like I was, I didn't want to like, I didn't
want to say that that was probably the case. I
didn't want to judge right away, but I felt that
I hit that one nail right on the head.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, No, I love them. And the fact that
I feel the same way when I see this microphone,
all of a sudden, something something comes over me and
I'm like, I can't I even don't know, Like I'm like,
can I say butt? Like I don't even you know
what I'm saying, Like I'm like, I don't even know
what words I can say, so I keep it real PG,
but no microphone all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I said that in the other night on air. I
can't remember what variation of what word it was. And
I was like, and I said, I did so I
just did the whole thing of Oh. I've never never
made a mistake on air, but I think it was
literally this past Saturday, I said something. I was like,
can I say that? And everyone in the back gave
me the thumbs up, and it was fine. But you know,
you worry, like you said, you sense yoursel I.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like how you blamed everybody in the back. You know, yeah, No,
they're the last line of defense, right Iowa, Sam, last
line of defense, right right.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I just intrinsically trust them. It's like, uh, you know,
they're like the Belichick, or maybe that's a bad example.
They're like the uh Sabin and Lane Kiff and I
just you know, I just look to them for guidance
and they never let me down. So I can give
you the little thumbs up. You're you're in the clear.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I guess I can understand why it's liberating for Jason
and Monsey. Sam. Are you in the liberating camp or
are you more more conservative? When it comes to the body.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Mouth, I do my fair share of cursing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I'm definitely aware when I'm in public, Like if I'm
in line at the grocery store and there's like children
behind me, so because I get really mad when I'm
in I'm in public, are in a public space and
people just act like they're at home, and they're just like,
I don't know, they're cursing and they're just dressed in pajamas,
and you know, I'm just like, come on, put yourself together.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Does content TXT matter?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Though?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
In other words, if you're at a sporting event and
a ref clearly blows a call and the guy behind
you drops something, drop drops a couple four letters? Is
that different than being at the grocery store and you know,
Johnny and Joey are just just you know, talking to
each other.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I'm still probably gonna refrain from blurting out, you know,
four letters of you know, golf is a four letter word.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know that whole saying.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, yesterday, yesterday.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I think I'm not I'm not going to be like
screaming curse words at like a game. But if the
person behind me, you know, it's it's a different it's
an intense appen.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Iowa punts the ball for the ninth straight time, so
we're applauding, We're happy about that. Yeah, but you're not saying,
let's freaking You're not saying, you know, the very another
punt inside the five Baby.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Was scream at the TV and probably scream out curse words,
but like at home and privacy of home.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm not to interrupt Sam, But I am still thrown
off by Jason's liberation of it because I mentioned earlier
that I think people look at swearing in comedy as
a crutch.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It is to cop out.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, and and like I thought, like for his I
was thinking like he would say, because you know, I
feel like Jason knows comedy. Jason understands comedy, stand up comedy,
and so I felt he would be along the lines
of me in terms of using it in your act.
But I'm wondering if it's liberating because of the fears
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that you know that Manzi has, that you have aaron
that I have of of a microphone. Is that why
it's liberating to you? Because you're no, it's like not
supposed to do it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No doubt there is a little bit of taboo there, Okay,
just like anything in life, it's something that's a little taboo,
then it feels good. I won't go I will say this,
Dan Buyer's story about his mom. No, I'm after swearing that.
I mean, you don't watch movies, so maybe you don't
have a frame of reference here. But you basically described
the scene out of a Christmas Story when Ralphie let
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the s H bomb go in front of his dad
when they were fixing the car. Yeah you know the reference. Yes,
you got soap in the mouth, he got soaping the mouth.
She put soap in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Dan, No, No, that was not I was a little
older than Ralph's six sixteen, right, Yeah, but it wasn't it.
Flick who got the worst of it because that's where
he learned of learned the word.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah yeah, and so so he got the worst.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Look at Buyer talking movies.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I know Christmas story. I've been to the Christmas story
house twice. Yes, you better believe it. I'm a big fan,
all right. Cussing from Jerry Jones to cussing here on
Fox Sports Radio, he's Aaron Torris hit him up an
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Fifteen minute warning now for Caitlin Clark. Talk here on
Fox Sports Radio. Always the topic of conversation, always, especially
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the topic of conversation. Erin Torres, when Iowa Sam is here,
Jason Stewart's here, on Manzi Belanios is here, and in
Kitlyn Clark doing it again in the WNBA. We'll have
some conversation about that. The center joke was the conversations
last week where he got cleared of his steroid use
(24:59):
because of the positive test that said came from his
masseuse or physiogal. Yeah, putting, putting, the putting, the the
substance on the massages, the therapist's own finger, and then
that transmitting into center. That was the whole deal. That
was his excuse, and then the whole tennis world is
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like people bought this. Yeah, crazy they did. Lebron James
is in the news. Oh you got some, you've got some?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, Well, you know his podcast show The Shop. Apparently
they did like a little special uh taping of it
in Paris. So this does sound like there's a live audience,
because it's a special one. But this is about how
Brownie James will be addressing his father on the court.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Have you thought through not relationship? Because you always be
his dad, always be a sob. What's your working relationship?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is he going to call you dad at practice? In
the locker?
Speaker 7 (25:54):
We already laid that No, we already laid no, he can't.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We already laid that down. I cannot call me dad
and workplace?
Speaker 7 (26:00):
All right? Once we once we leave out of the
private facility and the gates close, I could be dad.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Again in the car if we ride together at home.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I could be Dad, No, he gotta call me like
two three or Bron okay or you.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Know, go if he wants to.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's up to him.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I mean, it's up to him.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But it's easy for me.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
It's easy to me because it's easy for me because
I've been calling Bronni for so long.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's not like I've been called a son a son like,
so it's easy for me. It's gonna be the adjustment
for him. But he cannot.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
We cannot be running down the court and he'd been like, Dad, no,
you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Okay, okay, can I jump in on this?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So you read the quotes and it plays a certain way. Yes,
I think when you hear it, it is one of
the few times where Lebron actually comes off as like
a genuine human being. Like I feel like everything that
Lebron we have heard from him since he was eighteen
years old, there's a pr spin and it's been run
(27:04):
through seven people at his agency before he ever says
it out publicly. I thought that was actually really funny, Like, yeah,
I mean, call me the goat if you want, you know,
It's like like I'm walking through the hallways Hey, Manzi, Yeah,
you know, call me, call me the best host in
radio if you want. I mean, I don't really care,
so I'll be on it. Like when Manzi pitched this
story to us and we saw the quotes, I have
(27:27):
a completely different reaction when I actually hear him say it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's where that's where I was gonna nitpick, because when
you have all the different names, but he threw in
goat in there, like if you he said you know
two three, you know, LB, LBJ any of that stuff.
But he's like call me goat, you know, Like like
that was the one part that I thought, huh, you know,
(27:53):
like it was like okay, like I understand all the
other stuff, but like even if he would have done King,
you know, because he's King James and the brand and
the whole Crown deal that we love, the one part
if I was, well, the other part is I hate
the preface that they are fake haircuts. I've said that
before that like nobody's really getting a real haircut in there.
(28:15):
All they're doing is fake shaving necks. That's all. It's
just a fake I can't stand it. But I would
say that if I was to Netpike, it's the goat
portion of it. But it was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But I don't think he said it like when people
walk in the building, they better address me as the goat.
When I see Austin Reeves, I won't even make eye
contact unless they address me as the goat. I think
he said it. It's rare that I think Lebron says
something tongue in cheek. But that's how it kind of
came off to me. Yeah, would MANSI would you? I
don't want to me tru it. No, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I feel like it matters when you listen to it.
And I think the same thing with Jerry Jones. I
was trying to find sound because I wanted to hear
how he said it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Reading it is different.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's like texting.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's just hearing it is different.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
And I agree with you. I do think that despite
that line call me go I agree, he comes off
more likable than you would think.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'm listening to it. It was it was the rare
time where I felt like his guard was completely down,
and because he was even like, you know, I'm not
gonna be you better not be running out of the court,
Say Dad, pass me the ball. It's like that feels
like a genuine, like dead.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Moment, like I'm open. Yeah, which, by the way, he
will be a lot if he's on the court because
no one's gonna guard him. They're just gonna leave him
wide open. So if he did yell, Dad, I'm open,
that's probably going to happen with Bronnie James. If I'm
nitpicking again, it was Lebron choosing to put goat in there.
He could have put anything, but hey, let's just let's
slide this one. But that would be a ninety five
(29:46):
percent out of one hundred. It was a good question,
And I'll tell you what the wherewithal and and was
that one of the Was that one of the other
guys on the shop asking the question or was that
like a question from the audience? Do we know, Manzy, I.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Don't know if it was a audience question.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it was Okay, I think it might have
been mever Card No, Maverick. Carter's got kind of a
unique voice. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, it was the other guys, Yo, Paul, I forget
and I apologize. But the point being is Lebron coming
back with h I've had it easy by calling him Bronni.
You know, like that's not going to change. He's the
one that's going to have to adjust. I think is
pretty good Wherewithal and what they're gonna do, because he'll
just still call him Bronni. But I think that was
(30:29):
so by and large, Yeah, absolutely right. If I was
gonna nitpick, I just take out the goat. But pretty
good audio. And let's start giving real haircuts. Let's have
somebody in the camera shot because they're cutting someone's bangs.
That's what I want to see on the shop on HBO.
Hit her up at Manci Bolano. So you could find
Aaron Torres at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
(30:50):
on X at Dan Byer on Fox. Right, they are
fake haircuts Torres.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They are. By the way, there was some like Tom
Brady had a quote like last year and it was
on some uh haircutters podcast like do you remember that?
Like you It was one of those like the one
of the early quotes when he wasn't really doing interviews
and they're like and I found the quote and they're
like it was off of like the Cuts and Colors podcast.
I was like, what is this? So there are real
(31:16):
haircut podcasts out there, Lebron that's what I guess what
we're trying to get at here.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
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News that you desired. He's Aaron. I'm Dan. That's next
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I'm Dan byer in for the guys today. Of course,
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Speaker 2 (32:22):
Caitlyn Clark in the Indiana Fever topped the Atlanta Dream
last night. Clark this story again, and she is now
tied for the all time record for most three point
shots in a single season, tying Ryan Howard. I believe
that's how you pronounce her name for the record. In fact,
I think Clark hit the three in Howard's face last night,
(32:43):
the tying three for the record. By accounts. As the
Fever are a step closer to the WNBA playoffs, we
know where Iowa Sam sits on Caitlin Clark. We know
where Manzi Belanio sits on Caitlin Clark because Iowa Sam
got hersey of Caitlin Clark. And Jason Stewart's been out
spoken about his intrigue on how Clark is going to
(33:05):
transition to the WNBA, and I think Jason's been pretty
steady with his Your thoughts on Kaitlin Clark, Aaron Torres
have changed over these last couple of months.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Iowa Sam even noticed it mid show. Remember a few
weeks ago, Iowa samos I was, I was defending your
lovely Caitlin Clark. There was definitely more praise involved. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, listen, I just thought during the course of
her college career, there was a little too much. She's
the greatest of all time. And you know, listen, I
may have dropped a not my goat when she knocked
(33:38):
out Yukon in a controversial fit and fashion in the
Final four, No big deal whatever, But I think she
I actually think she's shown an incredible amount of resolve
this year. Listen, this audience doesn't need to know all
of the things that have been thrown her way, that
have been said about her, the physicality that I think
has crossed the line at some point. So I've enjoyed
watching her handle all of this. I'll tell you this,
(34:00):
whoever does, whoever helps her with pr she says all
the right things at all the right times. Never you know,
stoops the lowest common denominated I just give her a
ton of credit.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Now, she has been on an upboard climb throughout the season.
That's fair, right, Sam, Like she's she's gotten better throughout
the year. Absolutely again talking to a completely unbiased opinion.
But it was that rise that was going to keep
you locked in, right, Jason Stewart is you wanted to
see that she got better and better throughout the season,
(34:31):
And here we are in August twenty seventh, and you're
still checking out Indiana Fever games. Is that a fair assessment.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's been more of a slow build
than I had hoped. I had hoped she would take
the league by stormike she did college. I need to
see the not only the dominance, but the moxie, the attitude,
the kind of shoving it in the opponent's face, all
the stuff that we learned to love about her in Iowa.
And she's she has like seconds or moments of that
(34:58):
even last night, had a couple months what's of that?
But they it hasn't quite translated yet. I'm still waiting
on that. But she still has my attention.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And this is my point about this, and Mancie, if
you have anything to add, feel free to do so.
But my thought is this, We've made such a big
deal about the Olympic snub and I said at the
time I was getting Kitlin clarked out, I needed a break.
I needed a hiatus because it had been since January
(35:30):
and February and the record setting and then the NCAA
Tournament and then the WNBA draft and then the WNBA
season and everything that came with it. It had been NonStop.
I needed a break from it as a fan, and
I think what you're seeing is that Caitlin Clark probably
needed it as well, because she had been going full
board for the entire season, going back to September and
(35:51):
October and the year prior to that they played in
the last game of the year. It had an entire season.
I think this last month off for Kitlin Clark was
actually a good thing. So her being left off the
US Olympic team. Now I'm not saying that she she
would have been completely exhausted, because we don't know how
much she would have played on that Olympic team, but
just to allow her to get away for a month
(36:11):
or to move away from all of this and have
some of the attention put on maybe the US Olympic
team and not on her, even though she was a
part of the conversation. I think it's been good for
Caitlin Clark, and in the end, her not being on
the Olympic team maybe a blessing in the skies for
how she's going to perform over this last month of
the season and then likely in the WNBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Certainly seems as though it helped her clear her mind
and and probably just get physically right too. I mean,
you know, you play a full college season right into
a WNBA season. By the way, you know, criticize WNBA
for a lot, but I understand why they do that.
Try to build, try to capture any momentum that they
can get from the college season. Obviously this year is
an extreme example. But yeah, I think it's not just
(36:51):
a mental toll, but probably the physical toll as well.
But she's been playing phenomenal of late.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It has been such a I mean, you know, what
is it heavy? You know, where's the crown? Whatever the
saying is. I'm even gonna try to think of it
in last forty seconds here, But it's just the point
of everything that she's gone through, not only the last season,
the last couple of seasons, and to finally just get
a breather and a break. I think it's done. Caitlin
(37:17):
Clark some good and it's good for the WNBA. Now
people will be excited over these lists last stretch of
the season and into the WNBA playoffs, even when it's
football season. As crazy as that may sound. He's Aaron Torres.
I'm dan byer in for Cavino and rich Here on
Fox Sports Radio. Hit him up at Aaron Underscore, Torris,
you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. It's
(37:38):
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Speaker 2 (00:21):
Welcome in Covino on Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
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Now, you know, and can On Rich good together. It's
not just Covino and Rich. You know. Iowa Sam is here,
all right? Run up applause for Iowa Sam. Yes, Jason
Stewart is here as well. Yeah. Watson Bolagno's at the
news desk.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
Clack. I would say, I'm not speaking today here. I
speak through my drops, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I think he's gonna have something to say in about
forty five minutes when we talk about some Caitlin Clark.
But there's another hot topic on the table, and that
is the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And I don't think this has manufactured.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Dallas Cowboys talk when Jerry Jones talks Aaron. Jerry Jones
had a lot to say in a preseason piece leading
up to the regular season that starts in a little
over a week. But Jerry Jones, in speaking with the
all DLLs all Dallas dot com, if you will, had
(01:40):
a lot to say, not necessarily about Dak or ceedee lamb.
That's grabbing the headlines. It's the language that he used
in having this conversation with Clarence Hill, longtime Cowboys beat reporter,
And I'm reading what we're talking about, and it's Jerry
Jones defending himself as a GA as a whole, and
(02:02):
for a guy who has made such a mark on
the NFL that all of the other gms in the
National Football League look up to, he's sitting there having
to defend his own record of it as a general manager,
which is lukewarm at best. But Jerry Jones seemed really
on the defensive in speaking with Clarence Hill. It was
interesting Aaron and hearing the conversations that Jerry Jones had
(02:25):
and just reading this. Let me just read you a
line from this, okay, and I'm quoting Can you do it?
Jerry Jones impression Jira Ji, Yeah, I can't. I know
Jason Smith tries. I'm still not sure if Jason is
succeeding or not, but I know that he tries. He said, quote,
(02:46):
I've done it all. I have an ordinate amount of
confidence that bleep. If anybody can figure out how to
get this bleep done, I can figure out how to
get it done. I've been there every which way from Sunday,
and I've busted my butt a bunch a bunch. And
there's nobody living that's out cutting and shooting that can't
(03:07):
give you a bunch of times that they busted their bleep.
So hell no, there's nobody that could bleep and come
in here and do all the contracts and be a
GM any better than I can. That sounds like he's
being positive and aggressive to maybe Jerry Jones. To me,
it sounds absolutely like he's on the defensive.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
You know what I was actually thinking of while you
were reading that. It's like, you know that like Sunday.
It's like, you know, maybe week one of the NFL
season and you're getting getting ready, maybe you made some
breakfast and you did whatever, and then your wife or
your girlfriend Whoever's like, yeah, I'm gonna need you to
go clean the garage and if you could also take
(03:48):
out the trail and it gives you like thirty things
to do, honeydewes or whatever you call them. And you're like,
all right, if you bleep and say that I need
to bleep and do this right bleepin' now, then I
guess I'm gonna put turn off the bleeping TV and
focus on whatever you need, sweetheart. Like that the way
that it even sounds in word let alone, actually like
(04:09):
when you actually hear the audio, it does feel very defensive,
and like I said, it just reminds me of maybe
a few times where I've lost my cool in everyday
moments of life.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
This is again, like this is here, we are.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We are a little over.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
A week from the start of the regular season. You
just got the seedee lamb deal done. This question is
obviously what you're going to do about DAK. But I
think you've answered those questions. Yeah, I don't think he's
going to get a new deal. It sure as he
sounds like they're going to go into the season with
him playing out his contract and then they'll deal with
everything afterwards. So what's done is done. It's the season
(04:44):
ahead and how the Cowboys are going to do it.
But Jerry Jones has got rabbit ears. He's hearing what
everybody's saying. And we know his love for talking with
his radio show that he does weekly and Stephen Jones
talks to the media. We know he loves the attention
and he loves the attention that it brings to the
Dallas Cowboys. But this is a season where you have
(05:07):
got a lot of questions about how things are run,
and instead of the guy who's running the team focusing
on the upcoming season, he's worried about what people think
about his resume or his stat sheet as a general
manager when he's the actual owner of the team, And
that to me is so odd, Like if you're going
to do a sit down with Jerry Jones, I completely
appreciate Aaron his candidness. Again, I've said it one hundred times.
(05:31):
I love it when athletes, when coaches, gms and owners
and whoever are one hundred percent honest with us instead
of giving us cliches. But this is such a about
Jerry Jones piece. It's not about the Dallas Cowboys as
the Dallas Cowboys are about to start their season, and
I'm just taken aback by he's not on tilt about
(05:52):
the team failing in the playoffs. He's on tilt of
the way that he has done a GM job. You know,
it's two different things. They're not the same. There's running
like you could blame stuff on the players, you could
blame stuff on the coaches. On the whole deal. It's
nothing about how they got crushed by the Packers. It's
all about him being the GM and could anybody do
(06:13):
their bleeping job? And he's working his butt off, even
though he used a different term, Like that's what that
whole piece is and those exchanges are. And it's just
surprising to me that he's worried about his resume than
he is on what the Cowboys are actually going to
do in the standings in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
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off plus free shipping. And it's funny, Dan, because when
you talk about Jerry Jones, I think it's about his resume.
I also just think he just sounds like an old Like.
I know, I'm making all these these parallels and references,
and I know, I guess that's what we do in
sports talk radio. But when I heard this, like I said,
it just sounds like a grumpy old man that's grumpy
(07:13):
about whatever. And I don't know if it's because he
feels like he's being doubted, if it feels like his
he feels like his time has past. People are doubting him,
people are questioning him, people are saying he shouldn't have
the responsibility. So I think it's interesting that one it
seems as though the priorities are out of whack in
terms of what is best for the Cowboys. In other words,
like you said, uh, you know, should we be mad
(07:34):
about the playoff eggs. It should we be mad about
bringing back Mike McCarthy. Instead, he's mad about criticism that
he got for how long it took to sign Ceed Lamb.
But it also just sounds like it, like I said,
like an old guy that's trying to prove, hey, I
still got it, I still have this, I still have that.
And then again to your point, I think it just
displaces what's actually important when it comes to talking about
(07:54):
the Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Jerry Jones is not like you or me, and there's
there's nobody really like Mary Jones. Like even in the
even in the group of NFL owners that you have,
I don't think that there's I think that there are
very very few owners and you know, maybe Robert Craft somewhat.
You know Craft obviously as the Super Bowls. But there
(08:17):
are owners that do have more money. You know, the
Walton ownership with the Broncos and Jody Allen and Seattle,
you know, is kind of a lot of cash. But
it's the the Jerry Jones experience. It's the history, it's
everything that comes with the Dallas Cowboys, and it's the
brand of the Dallas Cowboys. So even in that small
(08:38):
group of you know, thirty one owners. If you want
to take the packers out of it, or ownership groups,
you have one that sure seems to stand out amongst
the others, and and the owner that most of the
owners end up looking up to or follow the path
of because of his influence and success. Yet he comes
(08:58):
to this point and I think this is also so
what is so intriguing about this because he's so not
like us, but in a way he's like us because
of the language that he used. And I'm not talking
about English, I'm talking about his French. You know, to
cuss in that article and do it multiple times says
a lot. And when when you choose to swear, you
(09:22):
are you are doing it for a reason. And him
being so defensive and using the opportunity to use swear
words and cuss words in that article that he knew
was going to be published, I know it feels like
it's a real moment, But that tells me he's even
more on tilt than they actually than the comments actually
were on the surface, crazy stuff from Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Crazy stuff And you know it's just un you know,
it's just unownerly, right. It is like you know, you
think of these owners as these uber successful business men
or women and the way they conduct themselves. And again,
you know, like even think Robert Kraft, it was weird
seeing him wanting to take a shot with Bill Belichick
on the Tom Brady roast. You know, it was like,
that's not what an owner is supposed to do. Just
(10:08):
trying to think off the top of my head, some
of the other ones. You know, Arthur Blank seems like
a just a very like, modest, hard working businessman. I
can't I can't think of every owner in the league
at this particular moment, but I think that's what also
stands out as well. I think I think it shows
a little bit of uh, yeah, I still run this place,
you know, kind of machismo or whatever, but also kind
(10:29):
of the exact opposite of, uh, maybe what we would
think an owner would be doing.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Were you thrown back at all by the custards?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
Was I thrown back by it? Yeah? Not really, No,
I mean because he goes a little because he goes
off script, because again he's not again, think of the
whatever orderly and proper owner that you think of when
you think of professional sports owner. He's not that. So
(10:58):
I wasn't totally surprise, But I think what I was
more surprised by is the part that you led the
segment with Dan, which was that he appears to be
genuinely offended by people that didn't think he could get
the job done than the manner in which he presented,
you know, kind of how he presented himself.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
I think this is what got me with the swearing,
and I think there's actually a bigger cussing argument or
conversation that we need to have here, and I know
he had one recently on the show, But there's things
that have opened up in the language that you use.
He's known Clarence Hill for decades. Clarence Hill's covered the
cowboys forever, So there's a there is a there is
(11:38):
a they know each other, they are comfortable with each other.
Jerry Jones knows who he's talking to and could probably
use language around Clarence Hill that maybe he went with
a you know, a reporter that was new on the scene.
But it's also the repeated use of the words, like
in this piece, the effort was used multiple times. You know,
(12:01):
the S word that we covered up was used a
time or two. You know, he didn't say, but multiple
times in terms of the words that he used, so
he knows what he's doing. But if you're in that setting,
unless you're trying to make a point, you're not using
(12:22):
those those words as as freely as I think you
normally would, even if it is with somebody who's been around,
you know, for twenty five years. It kind of makes
me think of like comedians like, the less blue you are,
the more well you're received, because you're not relying on
these swear words that end up kind of trying to
(12:42):
enhance your act. Now, if you use it here or
there to enhance a joke, maybe it has more of
an effect. But if you're just relying on that, I
think it completely waters down what you're saying. And in
a way here I think Jerry Jones is almost watering
down what he's saying by using cuss words.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Well don't you think it could be the opposit though, too,
is that we kind of know he's actually like legitimately
pissed off by the coverage of this based on the
language that he's using.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Yes, but I think he wants us to know, okay,
that he knows that you know that, Hey, if I
swear a lot, you know, and I use these words
or he's either on edge or he wants people to know.
It's one of the two. And neither of them are
good looks, you know. And it's funny with cussing because
I'm doing a broadcast remotely right now at my mom's place.
(13:31):
I'm forty seven years old. I cannot comfortably swear in
front of my mom. Forty seven grown adults have been
for twenty six years. I cannot comfortably swear in front
of my mom. Yesterday I went golfing erin I hit
some bad shots. I had a caddy who is next
to me, and you know what, I may have let
(13:51):
one slip after hitting a bad shot, and I thought, man,
is this guy offended by that? Sure?
Speaker 1 (13:57):
You know, should I have not said said that?
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Non? I'm like, well, he's a caddy, he's probably he's
heard every word in the book. So I kind of
moved off of that. But there there is a pause
in terms of like how you cuss as well, and
and I just yeah, it's just it doesn't flow as
as easily like you and I maybe talking shop before
the show where Jason or Sam or Monsey and you know, yeah,
those those words fly. But if we're having a conversation
(14:20):
or we're doing something, we're doing a podcast, those those
words don't necessarily come out as easy.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yeah, it was funny. I was interviewing someone for something
the other day and he mentioned, off the top, oh, yeah,
you know, my father's a pastor and blah blah blah
and this and that. But I am someone you know,
when there's not a mic in front of me and
I'm professional. Is that when we're in a casual setting,
you know, I, if I'm comfortable with you, I might
I might let one or two loose. You know, I
(14:46):
grew up in the Northeast. Swearing a kind of second
nature to me. You know, descriptive, you know, adjective, verbs,
you know, nouns, whatever you need. They fit all they
fit all the classifications there. And so it was funny,
like I caught myse and this was a young kid,
like very nice, Like I didn't know if he was
impressionable or not.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I didn't know.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I'm sure he has certainly heard the words, but I
don't know whatever. So it's like, you know, I just
I caught myself. I was like, maybe I should just
clean this up a little bit. And you know, I'm
being casual and I'm joining the conversation, but I'm also like,
I got to be careful with what I say here.
So it is amazing how he just how you use
said words just really speak to again, what setting are
(15:29):
you in? Who are you with? To Jerry's point, what
what tone are you trying to get across? But it's
funny because swear words can be used to get get
positive emotion like what's the famous Tom Brady let's eff
and go, but then you have negative emotion like Jerry Jones.
So very interesting, you know, use of the English language
(15:49):
to say the least some of these words.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
The show's executive producer today is Jason Stewart. Where do
you stand on swearing? And Jerry Jones is swearing?
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Jason, I was gonna say that. You know, Doug does
a podcast, The End the Bonus Podcast on the iHeartRadio network,
Doug Gottlieb. Yeah, And one of the things that kind
of talked him into doing this podcast is that you
could swear. So Doug and I we swear often on
that podcast, and it's liberating. I've realized in recent months
(16:21):
that I love cussing. I love cursing. It's a great
way to make a point, it's a great way to
use humor. So I've fallen in love with cursing. I
learned at a relatively early age. My mom allowed me
to swear pretty early. I think it was like my
sophomore year in high school when I first did it.
And then once you break that, yeah, break through it,
(16:45):
so yeah, then you can never take it back. And
I completely agree with your take on this, Jerry Jones
saying down, I could not be more in sync with
what you have to say about it.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
It's funny because I remember swearing in front of my
mom when I was a sophomore in high school, and
that did not open any floodgates. In fact, the dam
was built twenty feet higher. When I let one fly,
I forgot to turn the lights on as we were
driving from the five and dime five and dime near
(17:16):
the west side of town. We were leaving, I didn't
turn my lights on, and I said, bleep, I forgot
to turn on my lights And she said, Daniel, when
did you start using that word? You know? And so
I still remember where I was and as I said, now,
that was gosh, that was thirty some years ago, and
(17:38):
I still remember that point. It's I still just have
a tough time doing it. Jason talks about doing it
on the podcast. I can't do it in a microphone.
In this business, it is so difficult for me to do,
Like if I was to talk just because you are told,
you know, you can't say these words on the air,
like when you have that physical radio microphone in front
(17:59):
of you. It to me, is there, like there's there.
I don't think that there's any way that I could
swear because I'm just so cognizant of that microphone.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
It is amazing how you just it's you know, for
people who aren't in our business, it's just so instinctive.
Like I actually I was thinking about this as I
knew we were going to talk about it. Is I
remember one of the first shows that I did ever
here on Fox Sports Radio. You know, you're you're you're
busting chops in the back with the people that you're
gonna work with, and I was working with the host
I won't name his name, but uh, okay, you know
(18:33):
it was anything bad, it was it was it was
our our mutual friend and your podcast co host Mike
Harmon and he's like, hey, just you know, make sure
you don't bring that to air, and uh, you know,
because I was dropping a few a few of those
and he didn't really know me, and maybe I should
have been a little bit more responsible since I didn't
really know him. But he's like, yeah, just just make
sure you tone it down before you come on Aaron.
(18:53):
I think, I was like, And thankfully we are six
years into the experience of working for Fox Sports Radio
in some way, shape or form, and knock on wood,
I have not had my Jerry Jones incident just yet.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Maazi Belanos, were you on cuss words?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
I love them, figure you know what?
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Like I was, I didn't want to like, I didn't
want to say that that was probably the case. I
didn't want to judge right away, but I felt that
I hit that one nail right on the head.
Speaker 4 (19:23):
Yeah, yeah, No, I love them. And the fact that
I feel the same way when I see this microphone,
all of a sudden, something something comes over me and
I'm like, I can't I even don't know, Like I'm like,
can I say butt? Like I don't even you know
what I'm saying, Like I'm like, I don't even know
what words I can say, so I keep it real PG,
but no microphone all.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
I said that in the other night on air. I
can't remember what variation of what word it was. And
I was like, and I said, I did so I
just did the whole thing of Oh. I've never never
made a mistake on air, but I think it was
literally this past Saturday, I said something. I was like,
can I say that? And everyone in the back gave
me the thumbs up, and it was fine. But you know,
you worry, like you said, you sense yoursel I.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Like how you blamed everybody in the back. You know, yeah, No,
they're the last line of defense, right Iowa, Sam, last
line of defense, right right.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
I just intrinsically trust them. It's like, uh, you know,
they're like the Belichick, or maybe that's a bad example.
They're like the uh Sabin and Lane Kiff and I
just you know, I just look to them for guidance
and they never let me down. So I can give
you the little thumbs up. You're you're in the clear.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
I guess I can understand why it's liberating for Jason
and Monsey. Sam. Are you in the liberating camp or
are you more more conservative? When it comes to the body.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Mouth, I do my fair share of cursing.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
I'm definitely aware when I'm in public, Like if I'm
in line at the grocery store and there's like children
behind me, so because I get really mad when I'm
in I'm in public, are in a public space and
people just act like they're at home, and they're just like,
I don't know, they're cursing and they're just dressed in pajamas,
and you know, I'm just like, come on, put yourself together.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Does content TXT matter?
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Though?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
In other words, if you're at a sporting event and
a ref clearly blows a call and the guy behind
you drops something, drop drops a couple four letters? Is
that different than being at the grocery store and you know,
Johnny and Joey are just just you know, talking to
each other.
Speaker 5 (21:16):
I'm still probably gonna refrain from blurting out, you know,
four letters of you know, golf is a four letter word.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
You know that whole saying.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
Yeah, yesterday, yesterday.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
I think I'm not I'm not going to be like
screaming curse words at like a game. But if the
person behind me, you know, it's it's a different it's
an intense appen.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Iowa punts the ball for the ninth straight time, so
we're applauding, We're happy about that. Yeah, but you're not saying,
let's freaking You're not saying, you know, the very another
punt inside the five Baby.
Speaker 5 (21:55):
Was scream at the TV and probably scream out curse words,
but like at home and privacy of home.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
But I am, I am.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
I'm not to interrupt Sam, But I am still thrown
off by Jason's liberation of it because I mentioned earlier
that I think people look at swearing in comedy as
a crutch.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
It is to cop out.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
Yeah, and and like I thought, like for his I
was thinking like he would say, because you know, I
feel like Jason knows comedy. Jason understands comedy, stand up comedy,
and so I felt he would be along the lines
of me in terms of using it in your act.
But I'm wondering if it's liberating because of the fears
(22:36):
that you know that Manzi has, that you have aaron
that I have of of a microphone. Is that why
it's liberating to you? Because you're no, it's like not
supposed to do it.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
No doubt there is a little bit of taboo there, Okay,
just like anything in life, it's something that's a little taboo,
then it feels good. I won't go I will say this,
Dan Buyer's story about his mom. No, I'm after swearing that.
I mean, you don't watch movies, so maybe you don't
have a frame of reference here. But you basically described
the scene out of a Christmas Story when Ralphie let
(23:09):
the s H bomb go in front of his dad
when they were fixing the car. Yeah you know the reference. Yes,
you got soap in the mouth, he got soaping the mouth.
She put soap in your mouth.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Dan, No, No, that was not I was a little
older than Ralph's six sixteen, right, Yeah, but it wasn't it.
Flick who got the worst of it because that's where
he learned of learned the word.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
Yeah yeah, and so so he got the worst.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
Look at Buyer talking movies.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
I know Christmas story. I've been to the Christmas story
house twice. Yes, you better believe it. I'm a big fan,
all right. Cussing from Jerry Jones to cussing here on
Fox Sports Radio, he's Aaron Torris hit him up an
Air Underscore Toys. You can find me at Dan Byer
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Stewart and Iowa Sam at Iowa Sam ninety nine. We
(23:56):
are in coven in for Cavino and Rich who by
the way, we're in earlier today for the Herd on
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Speaker 6 (24:03):
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Speaker 2 (24:16):
Come in on Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
erin Torres. I'm Dampier sitting in for Steven Rich today
on this Tuesday. Here is your gosh, I don't know.
Fifteen minute warning now for Caitlin Clark. Talk here on
Fox Sports Radio. Always the topic of conversation, always, especially
(24:38):
the topic of conversation. Erin Torres, when Iowa Sam is here,
Jason Stewart's here, on Manzi Belanios is here, and in
Kitlyn Clark doing it again in the WNBA. We'll have
some conversation about that. The center joke was the conversations
last week where he got cleared of his steroid use
(24:59):
because of the positive test that said came from his
masseuse or physiogal. Yeah, putting, putting, the putting, the the
substance on the massages, the therapist's own finger, and then
that transmitting into center. That was the whole deal. That
was his excuse, and then the whole tennis world is
(25:19):
like people bought this. Yeah, crazy they did. Lebron James
is in the news. Oh you got some, you've got some?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Yeah, Well, you know his podcast show The Shop. Apparently
they did like a little special uh taping of it
in Paris. So this does sound like there's a live audience,
because it's a special one. But this is about how
Brownie James will be addressing his father on the court.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Have you thought through not relationship? Because you always be
his dad, always be a sob. What's your working relationship?
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Is he going to call you dad at practice? In
the locker?
Speaker 7 (25:54):
We already laid that No, we already laid no, he can't.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
We already laid that down. I cannot call me dad
and workplace?
Speaker 7 (26:00):
All right? Once we once we leave out of the
private facility and the gates close, I could be dad.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Again in the car if we ride together at home.
Speaker 7 (26:09):
I could be Dad, No, he gotta call me like
two three or Bron okay or you.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
Know, go if he wants to.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
That's up to him.
Speaker 7 (26:18):
I mean, it's up to him.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
But it's easy for me.
Speaker 7 (26:22):
It's easy to me because it's easy for me because
I've been calling Bronni for so long.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
It's not like I've been called a son a son like,
so it's easy for me. It's gonna be the adjustment
for him. But he cannot.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
We cannot be running down the court and he'd been like, Dad, no,
you cannot do that.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
Okay, okay, can I jump in on this?
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (26:43):
So you read the quotes and it plays a certain way. Yes,
I think when you hear it, it is one of
the few times where Lebron actually comes off as like
a genuine human being. Like I feel like everything that
Lebron we have heard from him since he was eighteen
years old, there's a pr spin and it's been run
(27:04):
through seven people at his agency before he ever says
it out publicly. I thought that was actually really funny, Like, yeah,
I mean, call me the goat if you want, you know,
It's like like I'm walking through the hallways Hey, Manzi, Yeah,
you know, call me, call me the best host in
radio if you want. I mean, I don't really care,
so I'll be on it. Like when Manzi pitched this
story to us and we saw the quotes, I have
(27:27):
a completely different reaction when I actually hear him say it.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
That's where that's where I was gonna nitpick, because when
you have all the different names, but he threw in
goat in there, like if you he said you know
two three, you know, LB, LBJ any of that stuff.
But he's like call me goat, you know, Like like
that was the one part that I thought, huh, you know,
(27:53):
like it was like okay, like I understand all the
other stuff, but like even if he would have done King,
you know, because he's King James and the brand and
the whole Crown deal that we love, the one part
if I was, well, the other part is I hate
the preface that they are fake haircuts. I've said that
before that like nobody's really getting a real haircut in there.
(28:15):
All they're doing is fake shaving necks. That's all. It's
just a fake I can't stand it. But I would
say that if I was to Netpike, it's the goat
portion of it. But it was.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But I don't think he said it like when people
walk in the building, they better address me as the goat.
When I see Austin Reeves, I won't even make eye
contact unless they address me as the goat. I think
he said it. It's rare that I think Lebron says
something tongue in cheek. But that's how it kind of
came off to me. Yeah, would MANSI would you? I
don't want to me tru it. No, I agree with you.
Speaker 4 (28:47):
I feel like it matters when you listen to it.
And I think the same thing with Jerry Jones. I
was trying to find sound because I wanted to hear
how he said it.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
Reading it is different.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
It's like texting.
Speaker 1 (28:59):
It's just hearing it is different.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
And I agree with you. I do think that despite
that line call me go I agree, he comes off
more likable than you would think.
Speaker 1 (29:10):
I'm listening to it. It was it was the rare
time where I felt like his guard was completely down,
and because he was even like, you know, I'm not
gonna be you better not be running out of the court,
Say Dad, pass me the ball. It's like that feels
like a genuine, like dead.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Moment, like I'm open. Yeah, which, by the way, he
will be a lot if he's on the court because
no one's gonna guard him. They're just gonna leave him
wide open. So if he did yell, Dad, I'm open,
that's probably going to happen with Bronnie James. If I'm
nitpicking again, it was Lebron choosing to put goat in there.
He could have put anything, but hey, let's just let's
slide this one. But that would be a ninety five
(29:46):
percent out of one hundred. It was a good question,
And I'll tell you what the wherewithal and and was
that one of the Was that one of the other
guys on the shop asking the question or was that
like a question from the audience? Do we know, Manzy, I.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Don't know if it was a audience question.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
I think it was Okay, I think it might have
been mever Card No, Maverick. Carter's got kind of a
unique voice. I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Yeah, it was the other guys, Yo, Paul, I forget
and I apologize. But the point being is Lebron coming
back with h I've had it easy by calling him Bronni.
You know, like that's not going to change. He's the
one that's going to have to adjust. I think is
pretty good Wherewithal and what they're gonna do, because he'll
just still call him Bronni. But I think that was
(30:29):
so by and large, Yeah, absolutely right. If I was
gonna nitpick, I just take out the goat. But pretty
good audio. And let's start giving real haircuts. Let's have
somebody in the camera shot because they're cutting someone's bangs.
That's what I want to see on the shop on HBO.
Hit her up at Manci Bolano. So you could find
Aaron Torres at Aaron Underscore Torres. You can find me
(30:50):
on X at Dan Byer on Fox. Right, they are
fake haircuts Torres.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
They are. By the way, there was some like Tom
Brady had a quote like last year and it was
on some uh haircutters podcast like do you remember that?
Like you It was one of those like the one
of the early quotes when he wasn't really doing interviews
and they're like and I found the quote and they're
like it was off of like the Cuts and Colors podcast.
I was like, what is this? So there are real
(31:16):
haircut podcasts out there, Lebron that's what I guess what
we're trying to get at here.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
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Speaker 2 (32:22):
Caitlyn Clark in the Indiana Fever topped the Atlanta Dream
last night. Clark this story again, and she is now
tied for the all time record for most three point
shots in a single season, tying Ryan Howard. I believe
that's how you pronounce her name for the record. In fact,
I think Clark hit the three in Howard's face last night,
(32:43):
the tying three for the record. By accounts. As the
Fever are a step closer to the WNBA playoffs, we
know where Iowa Sam sits on Caitlin Clark. We know
where Manzi Belanio sits on Caitlin Clark because Iowa Sam
got hersey of Caitlin Clark. And Jason Stewart's been out
spoken about his intrigue on how Clark is going to
(33:05):
transition to the WNBA, and I think Jason's been pretty
steady with his Your thoughts on Kaitlin Clark, Aaron Torres
have changed over these last couple of months.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Iowa Sam even noticed it mid show. Remember a few
weeks ago, Iowa samos I was, I was defending your
lovely Caitlin Clark. There was definitely more praise involved. Yeah, yeah,
I mean, listen, I just thought during the course of
her college career, there was a little too much. She's
the greatest of all time. And you know, listen, I
may have dropped a not my goat when she knocked
(33:38):
out Yukon in a controversial fit and fashion in the
Final four, No big deal whatever, But I think she
I actually think she's shown an incredible amount of resolve
this year. Listen, this audience doesn't need to know all
of the things that have been thrown her way, that
have been said about her, the physicality that I think
has crossed the line at some point. So I've enjoyed
watching her handle all of this. I'll tell you this,
(34:00):
whoever does, whoever helps her with pr she says all
the right things at all the right times. Never you know,
stoops the lowest common denominated I just give her a
ton of credit.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Now, she has been on an upboard climb throughout the season.
That's fair, right, Sam, Like she's she's gotten better throughout
the year. Absolutely again talking to a completely unbiased opinion.
But it was that rise that was going to keep
you locked in, right, Jason Stewart is you wanted to
see that she got better and better throughout the season,
(34:31):
And here we are in August twenty seventh, and you're
still checking out Indiana Fever games. Is that a fair assessment.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, It's been more of a slow build
than I had hoped. I had hoped she would take
the league by stormike she did college. I need to
see the not only the dominance, but the moxie, the attitude,
the kind of shoving it in the opponent's face, all
the stuff that we learned to love about her in Iowa.
And she's she has like seconds or moments of that
(34:58):
even last night, had a couple months what's of that?
But they it hasn't quite translated yet. I'm still waiting
on that. But she still has my attention.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
And this is my point about this, and Mancie, if
you have anything to add, feel free to do so.
But my thought is this, We've made such a big
deal about the Olympic snub and I said at the
time I was getting Kitlin clarked out, I needed a break.
I needed a hiatus because it had been since January
(35:30):
and February and the record setting and then the NCAA
Tournament and then the WNBA draft and then the WNBA
season and everything that came with it. It had been NonStop.
I needed a break from it as a fan, and
I think what you're seeing is that Caitlin Clark probably
needed it as well, because she had been going full
board for the entire season, going back to September and
(35:51):
October and the year prior to that they played in
the last game of the year. It had an entire season.
I think this last month off for Kitlin Clark was
actually a good thing. So her being left off the
US Olympic team. Now I'm not saying that she she
would have been completely exhausted, because we don't know how
much she would have played on that Olympic team, but
just to allow her to get away for a month
(36:11):
or to move away from all of this and have
some of the attention put on maybe the US Olympic
team and not on her, even though she was a
part of the conversation. I think it's been good for
Caitlin Clark, and in the end, her not being on
the Olympic team maybe a blessing in the skies for
how she's going to perform over this last month of
the season and then likely in the WNBA playoffs.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Certainly seems as though it helped her clear her mind
and and probably just get physically right too. I mean,
you know, you play a full college season right into
a WNBA season. By the way, you know, criticize WNBA
for a lot, but I understand why they do that.
Try to build, try to capture any momentum that they
can get from the college season. Obviously this year is
an extreme example. But yeah, I think it's not just
(36:51):
a mental toll, but probably the physical toll as well.
But she's been playing phenomenal of late.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
It has been such a I mean, you know, what
is it heavy? You know, where's the crown? Whatever the
saying is. I'm even gonna try to think of it
in last forty seconds here, But it's just the point
of everything that she's gone through, not only the last season,
the last couple of seasons, and to finally just get
a breather and a break. I think it's done. Caitlin
(37:17):
Clark some good and it's good for the WNBA. Now
people will be excited over these lists last stretch of
the season and into the WNBA playoffs, even when it's
football season. As crazy as that may sound. He's Aaron Torres.
I'm dan byer in for Cavino and rich Here on
Fox Sports Radio. Hit him up at Aaron Underscore, Torris,
you can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. It's
(37:38):
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