August 28, 2024 • 38 mins
Aaron Torres and Former All-Pro DB Kerry Rhodes, in for Covino & Rich, react to the Pittsburgh Steelers naming Russell Wilson as their starting quarterback. The guys give their thoughts on Coach Prime and Colorado, as Deion Sanders gets set to begin his second season in Boulder on Thursday night. Plus, what teams are the guys most excited to watch this college football season?
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(01:22):
So guys were in for Colin, and actually probably while
they were on air, we did get resolution to a
story that I think everybody had.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, we've all been waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I don't know that it was that surprising, but you know,
you host on Sundays with Dan Byer host on Saturdays,
and this past Saturday, we're Jason Martin and I my
Saturday partner, were coming off right after the Steelers Lions
preseason game, and I bring it up because Mike Tomlin said, hey,
we don't need to name a starter yet. I believe
the I'm paraphrasing the quote, but he goes, we got
another week of Steelers on Steelers before we figure out
(01:57):
who's the quarterback. So don't know how heins the practices
were this week, but the news does come down just
a few hours ago, Justin Fields will not be the starter.
Russell Wilson the veteran who you know, he has been
starting the preseason games, did lead a touchdown drive in
their most recent game, has been named their starter Week one.
(02:17):
Your reaction to just the big picture news, then we'll
talk to about the big picture what all means for
the team.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, no surprise that they went with the veteran. The
Pittsburgh Steelers teams that that has been you know, hovering
around five hundred right in the playoff mix for the
last three years or so, and you know they're not
gonna want to go with the I don't want to
call them a project, but it would be a project situation.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's a new situation, new.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Team, and you know, for him to be thrown into
that thrust, thrust into that position to be the guy
that leads that team that's pretty veteran, lated would be
would have been a little bit of a shock. I
personally would have probably gone with Fields. I think he
has the more upside and could you know, possibly be
you know, more than what they bargained for at this point.
(03:03):
But right now, going with going with Russell Wilson's the
safe bet. You know, Mike Tomlin fits that bill a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what I find interesting about this, and tell me
if I'm crazy. So you use the word project with
Justin Fields, I think that's probably the fair and accurate
thing to say. What I find interesting is I get
it right, is this is the time of the year
where all thirty two teams think they got a shot.
We got an opportunity with this that the thing with
the Steelers that's unique is obviously look very tough division,
(03:30):
very tough schedules. So I do think if you believe
that Russell Wilson is the better quarterback, I don't have
a fundamental issue with saying you're the starter, right. I
guess where my issue comes in is this is that
Justin Fields is on the final year of his rookie contract.
Obviously they can do the fifth year option whatever. But
I bring it up because it's like all of it
(03:53):
is just an interesting scenario because Russell Wilson's a veteran,
but it's not like he's been with the organization and
you have equity with and you don't want to put
him on the bench because you've been with him for
fifteen years and you want to show respect to him.
So you don't have that, But you also don't have
that much time with Justin Fields. And that's what I
find interesting is if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, you bring
(04:15):
in Justin Fields because you kind of want to know
if he's your future. And so I look at the Steelers' schedule,
as I mentioned, it gets pretty tough on the back end.
They start with at Atlanta, at Denver Chargers, Colts Raiders
early in the season, middle of October. So there's a
scenario where you know, Kirk Cousin's coming off the injury,
bo Nick's a rookie quarterback. Justin Herbert, we don't really
(04:37):
know what his status is with the foot I mean,
we think he's gonna play, But you get the point. Yeah,
they could start four and two, they could start five
and three, and it's just this weird thing where it's
like they're not really a contender, but they might have
a good enough record where they're in the mix, but
they won't really be in the mix. And it just
to me feels like it's gonna be a slippery slope
(04:59):
and kind of a tree spot to kind of just
figure out, Okay, if we do want to give Justin
the chance, like when do we do it? Because there's
a chance that they're not terrible to start the season.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, even with what you're just saying right now, I
see a scenario where they also can be two and four.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And one and five.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh and so, like I mean, Denver is supposed to
be better, the Coats will be better this year as well,
barring Anthony Richardson's taking a step back. But I mean,
all these games are hard in the NFL, and so
you can't really call it. I agree with what your
take was, but there's also the flip side of that, right,
So say they start slow, doesn't feels will be in
early Yeah, And so I think they've seen enough in
(05:37):
practice to know what they have now. Game time is different.
But a coach like Mike Tomlin that puts a lot
of stock in practice, he's going to have to prove
it there first. And I think that's probably what we're
kind of missing or glossing over here, is they've seen
enough of him to know what they have. They want
to go with the proven person that has a little cache,
and I'm sure the cachet matters a little bit here.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do you think that you know, you mentioned all the
practice stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you think that's a variable from the perspective of
you know, you do have a lot of vets in
that locker room.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That to your point.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, you know, last couple of years whatever it is,
nine and seven, nine and eight, ten and seven, a
year ago, made the you know obviously you know, made
the playoffs, lost of the bills of year go. So
I just bring it up because do you think that's
part of it is you got vets in that locker room.
Justin Fields may have the higher upside, but you know
that Russell will and it becomes almost a slippery slope
(06:31):
with your own locker room of if we go with
the young guy, then it looks like we're maybe giving
up on the season if for us has been better
at practice.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, that's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And also a team like Mike, like the Steelers with
Mike Tomlin, he's such a good coach and such as
competitive coach for them going into Winny season thinking that
you're gonna tank or not try to win, of course
isn't isn't gonna happen. So if the Steelers really want
to get to a point of solving that quarterback position
for the long term, they're going to have to have
(07:00):
a bad season. Here, sure, and Mike Tomas not the
right guy to have if they want that to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, And I guess I'll just be curious because again,
and by the way, to your point, like, yeah, they
could be two and four, but then if they're two
and four, then it makes the decision to go to
Justin Fields easier. Yes, what I'm saying is what if
you're four and three and Russ is completing sixty three
percent of his passes and you know he's not really
the answer, but again, you're trying not to give up
on the season. So you said you said it earlier.
(07:26):
I think we all agree Justin Fields is a project.
I mean, you know, it's again a weird situation where
you know, he wasn't great in Chicago, but he won
some games down the stretch. Just what do you make
of him kind of big picture where he is?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
What do you like?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Cause again I would guess at some point he is
probably going to get a shot. Yeah, and just curious
for your perspective on what he could potentially be, what
he might not be.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's it's a it's a very funny thing because I
think he's really talented, He's just not polished enough, and
then you go from a couple of systems having new
coordinators in to you go to another new coordinator here
in Pittsburgh, and so there's just no, we don't know
what we have and I don't think they know, so
like there has to be some time and some equity
(08:12):
put into the actual progression of what he can be
and what his game can be. And so we just
it's a big I mean, the biggest question mark you
can make. That's just him.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sure, yeah, and what is what is the process in
your opinion for Mike Tomlin? I mean, obviously again if
it goes really well five and so let's say, yeah,
you start with the Falcons Week one, Okay, Kirk Cousins
coming off an injury, maybe get to win there, uh,
Broncos Week two road game.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Whatever. The point I'm trying to make is what if you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Are And by the way he played, he played the
NFC East as well, So by the end of October
you also got the Giants and you got the Commanders.
I'm a Jaden Daniels guy, so I think they could
be good, but they you know, still get a rookie quarterback.
So what do you what do you think the process
is of how much wiggle room do you have do
you give Russ before you actually pull the plug and
let it or does it all just depend on what's
(09:02):
going on in practice.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think it depends on the flow of the season
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Right Like, if he's playing like he played in Denver
last year, I thought he was playing good enough for
them to make the playoffs, and they were down the
stretch right in the playoff mix, that situation soured. I
think coming into that season the coach didn't even believe
in the player anyway, and so the first sign of
(09:27):
anything faltering, he was gonna pull the plug, right, And
so that's what happened there. I think with Mike Tomlin,
the guy that again wants to win, I think the
least will be a little bit longer than that. So
I think he's gonna have a chance to actually prove
himself this year. And I don't think you go to
justin fields unless the season is over. At this point,
if you're gonna make the decision to start Russ, I
(09:48):
don't think you bring him in just because you're in
a rough patch. I think you got to ride out Russell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So two quick thoughts on that then one, it is
kind of funny you look at at the RUSS stats
and I'm not saying that he was great last year,
but sixty six percent completion percentage, twenty six touchdowns ATDs now,
to be fair, you know, just over three thousand yards passing,
so under seventy yards per completion. You know he's not
chucking it downfield. He's not Mahomes or Alan or whatever.
(10:14):
He wasn't terrible though, and so like like what are
you of the belief just having watched him knowing this
sport better than the rest of us, Like, do you
think he's told because there is this narrative that like
he's totally cooked, he's a placeholder You're gonna go to
Justin Field's eventually. Maybe Justin Fields is the guy, maybe
he's not. Whatever, do you think Russell Wilson's totally done?
Do you think there's any way that he plays well
enough where maybe he is the answer a little bit
(10:35):
longer than just eight to twelve game window this year.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think there's a scenario where that happens. That doesn't
mean he's playing for four or five more years. Yeah,
I don't think that. But when you talk about a
two year window where you can still get some Russell
Wilson I guess some Russell Wilson magic. I don't know
what that even means anymore, but if you can get
some Russell wi right, I didn't go that so he
took the spatchel from a little I did not go
(10:59):
that far. But Russell having two really solid years is
not out the window and not out the question.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Let me ask you a question. I don't know if
you have any thought on this or you can't comment.
Why does everyone hate Russell Wilson so much? Like like,
it's just it's unbelievable to me. And I've obviously never
been in a locker room with them, and I'm sure
you know guys that have, and certainly not asking for
any insight that you can't share, but it's just because
it's weird, because it does feel like him and Tomlin
kind of have a vibe. Like Tomlin's spoken very highly
(11:26):
of him. I think that they they have a pretty
good relationship. I can't speak to him with the Steelers,
but as you said, Soward really quick with Sean Payton,
although to your point, I don't know if Sean Payton
ever even gave him a chance obviously soward with Pete Carroll,
and we've obviously heard the you know plenty of former
teammates that have had their own thoughts on him as
they've kind of transitioned out of football. What do you
(11:49):
make of why maybe that that people just scari Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, lock of dynamics are weird.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You come in as a third round guy, a guy
that I'm sure worked his butt off early on to
get that position, gets thrown into the fire. Team starts
to win. Quarterback position is glorified no matter what. So
you look at that team in particular, with all the
names and all the players that they have, sure ego
(12:18):
come into play. That's really all it boils down to.
Because when they were winning, none of this came out,
of course. So then when you have a little a
couple of losses, one guy doesn't want to be there anymore.
Some this guy doesn't get paid. It's just a lot
of situations that could happen in that in that locker
room with the Dynamics. So, you know, Russell Wilson getting
a lot of the credit for those teams winning, I
(12:39):
think it's fair that the other players could have a
little bit of a little I don't want to say animosity,
but a little bit of an edge against him for
getting some of the some of that special treatment that
he got. So I think it just comes down to
ego and players wanting their fair due of the of
the credit.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, well it's interesting because he did make the playoffs
his first five years in the NFL, which is kind
of kind of crazy to think about. But to your point,
it was a defensive led team. It's whatever, And it
was actually when they let Russ cook that that was
when all the problems started. But for people who are
joining us, Russell Wilson has been named the start of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Last little thought from you, Carrie is
how do you think this ends this season? In other words,
(13:20):
does Russ make it all seventeen games? Does he make
it twelve and they flip to Justin fields. Does he
make it three? And it's a debacle in because you said,
you know, you said, like real, if it goes well,
could have a could have a little you know, a
short runway here of a year or two.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
How do you think it ends up? It's not gonna
end well well for the Steelers. But I don't know
if it's gonna be Russell Wilson's fault. Sure, there is
a tough division. They're not going to make the playoffs.
I don't feel personally it's just too top heavy. I mean,
Baltimore's going to make the playoffs, Cleveland's going to make
the playoffs, and Cincinnati's going to possibly make the playoffs.
Right so or any combination of those three right four
(13:57):
teams is not gonna make it. So and unless an
injury happens, which we're gonna wouldn't hope it doesn't, they're
not going to make the playoffs. So it's gonna be
you know, Russell Wilson. If he plays very very very
very good solid football, you won't be able to put
it on him. And I think that's the possible outcome,
the best possible outcome in this situation.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Let me ask you one last question on this. So
we're entering the twenty twenty four season. He said that
best Russell Wilson has two years and that justin Fields
is a project that does have upside. Yeah, do you
believe it's hard to say that the Pittsburgh Steelers starting
quarterback to open the twenty twenty sixth season. So so,
(14:40):
three openers from now, two calendar years from next Sunday.
Do you believe that person is on the roster right now?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, Okay, nope.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If they didn't give Justin Fields the chance this year,
in a new year, in the fresh year, he's not
going to be there in two years.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
In two years.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, and that's that's my well, and that's why I'm
not surprised because again, hosting on Saturdays. I've listened to
the last two Mike Tomlin post preseason game press conferences
and it felt like this is where it was going.
But I just don't know why you bring in Justin
Fields on the last year of a contract if you're
not gonna throw him out there to see.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If he could be But then again, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And listen, I'm far from you know, Mike Tomlin's won
a lot more football games than I have.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Believe it, sure, how many? How many you got? You got? Like,
I mean, well, we.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Want a little bit in high school. You know, No,
BIGD wasn't coaching. I mean I was on the field
making plays, sir. But but yeah, no, he knows more
than I do. But it's just like I said, it
just feels weird. That you bring in Justin Fields last
year of a rookie deal, and you basically again, he
might get run, he might not, and then you know,
God forbid he doesn't get run. Russ is good enough
(15:46):
goes nine and eight, you know, not really good enough
where not really bad enough where you can pull him,
and then Justin Fields goes somewhere in Essex.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Aaron.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
But the one thing we haven't talked in this discussion
so far is he's gonna have a He's gonna have
a couple of packages in these games.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
He's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, And early on in the preseason, before the preseason
in camps, he was flirting playing other positions.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So don't forget about Oh so we're talking the Terrell
Prior route. Okay, there you go, all right, Insider Carry
Carry Rhoads here has the insight on Justin Field's future
All Pro wide receiver. You are the former All Pro,
so you would know better than I am. But Fox
Sports Radio, this is Covino and Rich Show. Covino and
(16:27):
Rich are out, erratoris Carry Rhodes are in coming up.
Carrie Tomorrow, college football.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm so happy we can stop just throwing takes against
the wall and see what sticks.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You guys, don't see his face. He's smiling too. He's
really exciting. I'm so happy. But you know what I'm
especially happy about. We got Coach Prime year two prime time.
I gotta hear your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I love Coach Prime and I can't wait to see
what he and the guys put out on the field tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
We'll talk a little bit about Colorado opening their season
tomorrow and the rest of a busy week one in
college football. Aratorus carry Rhoads in four, Gavino and Rich.
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(18:38):
talked talked that Mars a big day. So today's Wednesday.
Tomorrow is Thursday. That's usually how the calendar works, but
this Thursday is a little bit different because college football
Week one is officially kicking off Saturday. Last Saturday, we
had Week zero four games.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Florida State lost, but the Big Boys all kick off
this weekend, and of course two headliners on Thursday night,
the first night of this long weekend. The first one,
obviously is the game that is on Fox as Minnesota
is hosting North Carolina. You could catch that at eight
pm Eastern on Fox. But the other one, it is
(19:17):
year two of the Coach Prime era North Dakota State
at Colorado. Coach Prime joked at Big Twelve Media Days
that his ad Rick George didn't do him any favors.
North Dakota State is obviously a very storied FCS program.
Carson Wentz went there, Trey Lance went there, Easton Stick
went there, among many others. Just big picture. I'm curious,
(19:39):
you know, first of all, do you ever relate do
you know Diana and all?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, oh, I knew it. Yeah, of course yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He was.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He was a round dB.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He gave me a lot of love when I was younger,
and he's always been that guy. He's been a guy
that's been friendly, not stand office with the up and
coming guys that were in the league around my time,
especially my time, because he was telling off at that
at that end at the end of that year with
the Ravens that I think he was with the Ravens
at that time and has always shown love.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Man, he's been a good guy. Let me ask you.
Because I don't know him, I know people that have
been around him. Yeah, And I think there's this perception
from the people that don't like him that all of
this is a charade, is a front, and I think
it's the exact opposite. I just think he's the rare
person that doesn't have to play the game and say
(20:28):
all the right things at the podium and be polite
and be no. He could just be himself and bed.
I mean, the guy is probably who knows what his
net worth is. He's got a ton of off the
field stuff on top of his playing career.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Da da da.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I just bring it up because I actually think he
seems to me to actually be one hundred percent authentic,
and I think that is what actually rubs people the
wrong way.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, authenticity is when you can be that way and
live that way. I'm just going to end that for sure,
because a lot a lot of people out here in
the world at this time, they don't they don't live
that way, and so when they see somebody living that way,
they really can't believe that it's true. But that's him,
That's who he is. He's been that way since I've
known him, and nothing has changed from the playing days
(21:08):
to who he is right now.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So what do you make of him as a coach.
Last year, obviously they have the three and oh start
took the college football It took the sporting world. By
I mean, it was the biggest It was the biggest
story of that early part of the season.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Start three and oh.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
They beat TCU, which was the defending national runners up.
They beat Nebraska, they beat Colorado State. That Colorado State
game was crazy, the eleven Eastern kickoff. I mean I
host till two am Eastern, we got off air, game
was in overtime and I stayed until the very end.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I think there was like.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Eleven million people watching throughout that game. But obviously after
the three and oh start, they finished one and eight
kind of falls apart. The old line isn't very good,
the D line isn't very good. What are you expecting
and what are you hoping to see from year two
in coach Brian.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm definitely expecting a better showing than last year. They
have skilled players, obviously, which we know they are going
to be better. They've beefed up the front on both
sides of the ball, and you need that to be
competitive in any league, and so I'm expecting them to
take a jump. I don't know how big of a
jump that's gonna be during a new conference, really good conference.
And you know, when we talk about Dion as a coach,
(22:16):
I think it's still TBD. I mean he's coached that,
you know, in the at the Swack level, which he
was really good at because he could get the players
that he wanted and he needed and you know, the
cream of the crop in that in that league, and
so you expected them to be good. But now it's
a step up. You got you can't talk to talk
to be successful in that league, and so he's going
(22:36):
to have to get the players and we'll see. I mean,
I think it is to be the TBD with that,
but I'm excited to see what happens in year two.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well, and that's why I like I think there's just
like a bogus narrative about him is that you know,
he's all sizzle those stake. It's like last two years
at Jackson State eleven and two, twelve and one, that's
I'm not great at math, but that's twenty three and
three overall pretty good, Yeah, very good. By the way,
one of those losses was to an FBS team there
of course in the FCS. So it's like it's like
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against like minded competition, twenty three and two in the
last two years, and so it's like, I believe he
could coach, and I think last year that like it
just got first of all, they just weren't very good.
Like I think this is what people forget too, is
like he took over the worst team in Power conference football.
And like for people who forget, like, I'm just gonna
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read you some of the scores from the year before
coach Prime got to Colorado to kind of give you
an understanding of the situation that he took over. So
last year was year one, So this was the twenty
twenty two season, the year before he got there, lose
forty one to ten to Air Force. Okay, no disrespect
to to you know, love the flag whatever, But I
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don't think they had a bunch of pros on that team.
Forty nine to seven, to Minnesota forty five to seventeen,
to UCLA forty three to twenty, to Arizona forty two
to nine, to Oregon State forty nine to ten, or
again fifty five to seventeen, to USC fifty four to seven,
to Washington sixty three to twenty. So he took over
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quite literally the worst program at the then Power five level. Yep,
they improved to four and eight. And I think what's
worth noting is even in their losses, you know, a
lot of close competitive games. I just mentioned in twenty
twenty two, the year before he got their Colorado loses
to USC fifty five to seventeen. Last year they lose
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to USC forty eight to forty one. Mentioned that in
twenty twenty two they lost to Oregon State forty two
to nine. Last year they lose to Oregon State twenty
six to nineteen by the way Arizona walk off field goal.
They lost lose to Utah by six. I know it
wasn't pretty and there were some bad losses last year.
Get make no mistake that Oregon game was ugly. They
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lost to Washington State late in the air, and it
was ugly as well. They weren't as far away from
being not great. But six and six, seven and five,
as I think a lot of people think. Yeah, And
the one thing I will say, I followed the recruiting
stuff a little closer than most, but they they brought
in some real dudes last year, like I think last offseason,
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clean house, bring in new bodies. But the quality of
player this offseason is so much better. I won't bore
people with too many details, but we know they signed
the number one offensive tackle in high school football. But
they got an All Pack twelve defensive lineman from Arizona State.
They got a thousand yard receiver from Florida Atlanta. I mean,
they just brought in a lot. By the way, they're
starting right tackle was that in the big Teddy gave
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up one sacks starting all thirty all twelve games last year.
So that's the only point I'm trying to make is
I do think the talent is going to be much improved,
and I'm just really intrigued and excited to see what
this team looks like.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, what you just said to me right now is
they're really bad last year and two years the year before.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yes, I mean a lot of points. That's a lot
of points.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I mean I didn't hear I didn't hear anything lower
than forty in that rundown.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So it was it was a lot of a lot
of bad games.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But no, I think the thing about coaching and head
coaching that gets lost in the in the fray because
obviously the head coach and the quarterback gets a lot
of credit. But to be a really great head coach
at any level, there's a level of humility, humility that
needs to be had. He has that. And when I
say he has that, it's because when you're the head
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guy in charge, you're the face of the organization, face
of the franchise, but you got to surround yourself with
real talent at those other coaching positions.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's went out and got that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That is what I'm more That's what I'm more satisfied
with about the whole Deon brand in general. What the
shots that he take, the takes that people have on
him being braggadocious or being you know, always this bigger
than life guy. That's some of that could be some
truth to that, but there's also a bit of humility
that people miss with him and bringing in the right
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guys and bringing in guys that could be better than
you or knowledge more knowledgeable than you in certain sitution
suations is the recipe for success. And I think he's
done that. He's brought in, you know, to ask you
want anybody on staff once Apps come in help with
the D line and all that stuff, and so having
Beteran guys, other NFL coaches on staff that helps, and
so I'm excited to see what they can do as
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a unit.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Damian Lewis, by the way, former first rounder I think
Houston Texans, he played at Miami. He is on on
the staff as well. Defensive line coach is alongside warrent Sapps.
So I'm excited as well, really quickly because you know,
you did play for Rex Ryan, right, So what is
it like? Does it Does it matter when the coach
is making headlines off the field every every single week.
I'm not speaking ill of Rex because he's entertaining his heck,
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especially on TV, but uh, because I think that's kind
of an interesting perspective. Is again, it's all fun and
games when you win. They struggled a little bit last year,
I think they'll be better. Does it matter to players?
Do they care that their coach is always in the
news that their coach maybe has had a couple of
run ins with reporters over the last couple of weeks,
As that matter at all?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It depends on if you're winning and losing, sure, and
it's always that's always the case, and you're winning, it
covers up a lot of things, of course, and you
kind of turn it. You can turn a blind eye
to it. But when you start losing, you see really
fast that the same people that were admiring you for
being that person, for being the person that's scene and
being the guy that's making all the headlines and talking
the way that you know, like a Rex did at
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the time, once you lose, those same people attack you.
So you just have to have a little bit awareness
around that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
No, it's really interesting because obviously last week second incident
with a reporter came out, but it's like, I don't
know how closely you followed it, but like the reporter
said some pretty nasty stuff about him, and it's like,
I don't know your perspective as a player, if you
ever had a bad experience with the media.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, now you're on the other side of it
as well.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's like even last week, it's like it was so
easy to just oh, this guy can't you know, this
guy being Dion, Like, oh, he can't handle it. And
it's like, as somebody who did go to school for
journalism was a report, like there is a level of
like professionalism that you and the media have to attain.
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And if you don't don't have that level of professionalism,
like you're not it's not a birthright that you're given
a credential and allowed to do whatever and ask questions.
I mean, I feel like to me and and I I,
you know, I haven't really talked about it on air,
but like I don't know, I didn't really have a
problem with some of the stuff that he said last week,
especially you know, basically people who missed it the second
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incident where there was a reporter from the Denver Post
where he basically said basically Colorado had made it clear
that they were not answering any questions from him.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, and I don't know like that that was one.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And again, by the way, if you're if you're five
and one, people are saying, oh, he's the next Nick Saban.
Nick Saban didn't like answering questions either. If you're one
and five, Oh, the guys a hack and so I
didn't have any problem with that last week. But I
I don't know, I just I find the whole situation fascinating.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, the beat you know, the beat writers are the
guys that you're going to be around a lot, and
so you kind of quickly identify who those who are.
And so, I mean you talk about success and failure
or winning and losing in any league, right, there's there's
guys that you know that are there to do the
job and do it with integrity and do it the
(30:09):
right way. And then there are some guys that are
there to find the fishers and find the cracks to
try to poke away at that. And so if that's
if that's that guy's track record, then yeah, you don't
have to deal with that. I'm actually if that's the case,
I'm happy that the university's taking the stand and.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Not allow him to be in that in that mix.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, among the things, this guy's name is Sean Keeler.
He's the uh comment uh columnist excuse me for the
Denver Post. Among the things that he has called Dion
a false prophet, Planet Prime, the Bruce Lee of BS.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I saw that one.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, dude, it's like, you know, to me, it's like, listen,
we all have opinions, right, and we all say stuff. Yeah,
but like if I was going after if you're the
head coach of the Denver Broncos whatever, and it's like,
I have a I have a right to criticize, But
I think there's a degree where you can cross a
line with that criticism and then beyond that. Yeah, I
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don't know, I just like, I just I think that
I think there are ways you can say that this
guy has not lived up to expect if you believe
that Dion has not lived up to expectations now worth
noting they went from one and eleven to four and
eight in his first year. But if he's not living
up to expectations, or you believe that some of the
stuff he's saying isn't true, there's a way to say
it without calling him the Bruce lea BS, which I
don't even really understand what that even means. But maybe
(31:25):
I need, maybe I need to be a Denver Post
subscriber to fully understand the context and that and so.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, no, you get you have the right to say
whatever you want, but they have the right to refuse
you entry to questions as well.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So it's it's a give and take.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And obviously, yes, I mean, if, like I said, if
this guy has a history of doing this and a
history of trying to bait Dion to to do whatever,
get whatever answer response he wants, there becomes it becomes
it can become a toxic situation. So it seems like
that's what this has brewed to grown too. And so
that's where we are now.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
By the way, his most recent column, let me see
if I can find the headlines. Well, this is not
the one I was looking for. But this is this
Sean Keeler guy. He just put out a new column
and it was actually very complimentary. So let's see. That's
the point is like here you go, Oh no, maybe not.
The first part was very common. This is the column
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from eighteen hours ago, Deon Sanders. See you buffs look smart, tough, fast.
I thought that was where it ended. Then he says,
but are they disciplined? So listen, everyone's a title to
their opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I tend to.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Agree with you, is I don't believe that you know
just because you work for a fancy newspaper or TV outlet.
I think there's a degree of professionalism. I do think
this guy caught crossed it a little bit. I have
no problem with that, but I am excited. Colorado plays
North Dakota State eight pm Eastern Tomorrow on Thursday, and
again on Fox. We of course have North Dakota or
North Carolina excuse me against Minnesota. This is the Coveno
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
So we're just talking a minute ago.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Week one starts tomorrow Thursday, right around this time. Two
big ones, Colorado hosting North Dakota State, also Minnesota hosting
North Carolina on Fox. What are you excited about college?
First of all, I mean I don't want to put
an age any you're not a very old guy.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You're not a very old guy. Yeah, college football is.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So could you have ever imagined in whenever you were
playing college football, when they were probably checking to make
sure that, you know, you didn't take a bagel out
of the cafeteria otherwise we had to call the NCAA.
Can you could you have imagined that college football end
up where we are right now?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I know it's crazy, but you know, obviously things are
going to progress, and you're going to try to enhance
the game, and the players are going to try to
enhance their situation. So, I mean, I knew there would
be changes, but the level that we are right now,
I wish I wasn't this old. I know, yeah, I
wish I had a little bit, a couple more years
of eligibility. I could go out there. Even right now,
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at this age, I could play a half, sure, you
know what I mean. So if that was going on,
I definitely would have told mom to hold out a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, you know what's crazy too, and we're starting to
see it is you know what everyone talks about, NIO,
But it's like NIOL now is this thing where guys
are making so much in the college game.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
They don't have to leave for the pros. You know,
it's I.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Don't know if you were going to add anything, but
like like will Howard, the starting quarterback at Ohio State,
like probably would have been a fift six round pick,
but he's like, Okay, I go to training camp with
the Saints and you know, be a third stringer, be
a practice guy, and I don't even know how much
money that would make.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Or I could come to Ohio State and make so
much money.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Io State, by the way, like four or five guys
on that defense could have gone pro, would have been drafted,
said hey, I can make more money here. I think,
like that's the crazy part that I don't think a
lot of people fully like have wrapped their heads around,
is in a lot of cases, there's more money to
be made as a college athlete than as a pro.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Even taking a step further, the number one pick in
this year's draft, Caleb Williams right I was on a
record saying if he didn't want to go to Chicago
like he was, like reports were coming out at the time,
he didn't have to. He's making enough money in USC
and it's really pretty good weather out here. And there's
no rush. There's no rush anymore. So I definitely had
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that take as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's crazy because there was a like probably three day
narrative where there was talk like could Marvin Harrison come back,
Marvin Harrison Junior come back to Ohio State? And I
will tell you, I don't think there was ever a
time that it was realistic, but I know some people
at Ohio State, and it was something that he did
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think about. Was like, Okay, I know that it's you know,
thirty million guaranteed over five years, but maybe I can
get like two and a half three and I can
finish with the guys that I started with and all
those other because I mean, if you look at last
year's team, for all the criticism of Ohio State, they
went they were eleven to zero going to the Michian game.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
They're going to the College Football playoffkay, And so I
only bring it up because they weren't that far off
all the other guys that he came in with that
weren't going to be top three picks, like he was
decided to come back, by the way, for people wouldn't
remember this, but when the team went to the Bowl game.
Usually if you declare for the draft, you just you're
working out at you know, in Miami or LA or something.
He was with the team during the entire Bowl process,
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traveled with the team, and like people just wrote that off.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Is like that's the dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
He's not staying in college, shut up to and like,
I don't think he was ever actually staying right, But
I think he gave it a lot more consideration than
people actually believe.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, And I don't know why people wouldn't believe that
to be the case. I mean, you're in college, there's
no real pressure, You're with your friends, You're in a
much more relaxed situation, relaxed environment, not as many expectations.
I mean, outside of yourself, why wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You And if you're Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison, you're
making seven figures exactly, yeah, and driving.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
A Ferrari, So you're good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like the pressure of going out and providing for your family,
is that that part of it? If you're a top players,
it's not even the thing anymore. So enjoy being the kid.
I mean, I know a lot of kids want to
grow up and get out of their their families houses
and go be a man and go be a pro.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
But now with the situation with the nil a kid
for a little bit, it's not a bad life. Yeah,
we got very little time. Any one team player whoever.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That you're most excited to see this year, any one
team the Louisville Cardinals. No, no, no, no. Besides, I'm
excited about them.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Brom did a great job in year one, almost got
a you know, almost won that conference.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I know you screwed up everything for everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
The Florida State Conversation wanted't to happen if Louisville had
closed the deal.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm excited about them.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
If we can get our quarterback to put Tyler's show suck,
I think Tyler suck.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
To actually stay healthy, I know we're going to be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I wasn't gonna say because I don't want to bring
any negativities, like seventh year guy Can doesn't stayed healthy previously.
But yeah, college football is here. I am so so
so fired up. I know you are too.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Again.
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So guys were in for Colin, and actually probably while
they were on air, we did get resolution to a
story that I think everybody had.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
Well, we've all been waiting for it.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
I don't know that it was that surprising, but you know,
you host on Sundays with Dan Byer host on Saturdays,
and this past Saturday, we're Jason Martin and I my
Saturday partner, were coming off right after the Steelers Lions
preseason game, and I bring it up because Mike Tomlin said, hey,
we don't need to name a starter yet. I believe
the I'm paraphrasing the quote, but he goes, we got
another week of Steelers on Steelers before we figure out
(01:57):
who's the quarterback. So don't know how heins the practices
were this week, but the news does come down just
a few hours ago, Justin Fields will not be the starter.
Russell Wilson the veteran who you know, he has been
starting the preseason games, did lead a touchdown drive in
their most recent game, has been named their starter Week one.
(02:17):
Your reaction to just the big picture news, then we'll
talk to about the big picture what all means for
the team.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Yeah, no surprise that they went with the veteran. The
Pittsburgh Steelers teams that that has been you know, hovering
around five hundred right in the playoff mix for the
last three years or so, and you know they're not
gonna want to go with the I don't want to
call them a project, but it would be a project situation.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's a new situation, new.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Team, and you know, for him to be thrown into
that thrust, thrust into that position to be the guy
that leads that team that's pretty veteran, lated would be
would have been a little bit of a shock. I
personally would have probably gone with Fields. I think he
has the more upside and could you know, possibly be
you know, more than what they bargained for at this point.
(03:03):
But right now, going with going with Russell Wilson's the
safe bet. You know, Mike Tomlin fits that bill a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
So what I find interesting about this, and tell me
if I'm crazy. So you use the word project with
Justin Fields, I think that's probably the fair and accurate
thing to say. What I find interesting is I get
it right, is this is the time of the year
where all thirty two teams think they got a shot.
We got an opportunity with this that the thing with
the Steelers that's unique is obviously look very tough division,
(03:30):
very tough schedules. So I do think if you believe
that Russell Wilson is the better quarterback, I don't have
a fundamental issue with saying you're the starter, right. I
guess where my issue comes in is this is that
Justin Fields is on the final year of his rookie contract.
Obviously they can do the fifth year option whatever. But
I bring it up because it's like all of it
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is just an interesting scenario because Russell Wilson's a veteran,
but it's not like he's been with the organization and
you have equity with and you don't want to put
him on the bench because you've been with him for
fifteen years and you want to show respect to him.
So you don't have that, But you also don't have
that much time with Justin Fields. And that's what I
find interesting is if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers, you bring
(04:15):
in Justin Fields because you kind of want to know
if he's your future. And so I look at the Steelers' schedule,
as I mentioned, it gets pretty tough on the back end.
They start with at Atlanta, at Denver Chargers, Colts Raiders
early in the season, middle of October. So there's a
scenario where you know, Kirk Cousin's coming off the injury,
bo Nick's a rookie quarterback. Justin Herbert, we don't really
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know what his status is with the foot I mean,
we think he's gonna play, But you get the point. Yeah,
they could start four and two, they could start five
and three, and it's just this weird thing where it's
like they're not really a contender, but they might have
a good enough record where they're in the mix, but
they won't really be in the mix. And it just
to me feels like it's gonna be a slippery slope
(04:59):
and kind of a tree spot to kind of just
figure out, Okay, if we do want to give Justin
the chance, like when do we do it? Because there's
a chance that they're not terrible to start the season.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Yeah, even with what you're just saying right now, I
see a scenario where they also can be two and four.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
And one and five.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Oh and so, like I mean, Denver is supposed to
be better, the Coats will be better this year as well,
barring Anthony Richardson's taking a step back. But I mean,
all these games are hard in the NFL, and so
you can't really call it. I agree with what your
take was, but there's also the flip side of that, right,
So say they start slow, doesn't feels will be in
early Yeah, And so I think they've seen enough in
(05:37):
practice to know what they have now. Game time is different.
But a coach like Mike Tomlin that puts a lot
of stock in practice, he's going to have to prove
it there first. And I think that's probably what we're
kind of missing or glossing over here, is they've seen
enough of him to know what they have. They want
to go with the proven person that has a little cache,
and I'm sure the cachet matters a little bit here.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
Do you think that you know, you mentioned all the
practice stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Do you think that's a variable from the perspective of
you know, you do have a lot of vets in
that locker room.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That to your point.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean, you know, last couple of years whatever it is,
nine and seven, nine and eight, ten and seven, a
year ago, made the you know obviously you know, made
the playoffs, lost of the bills of year go. So
I just bring it up because do you think that's
part of it is you got vets in that locker room.
Justin Fields may have the higher upside, but you know
that Russell will and it becomes almost a slippery slope
(06:31):
with your own locker room of if we go with
the young guy, then it looks like we're maybe giving
up on the season if for us has been better
at practice.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, that's that's the point.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
And also a team like Mike, like the Steelers with
Mike Tomlin, he's such a good coach and such as
competitive coach for them going into Winny season thinking that
you're gonna tank or not try to win, of course
isn't isn't gonna happen. So if the Steelers really want
to get to a point of solving that quarterback position
for the long term, they're going to have to have
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a bad season. Here, sure, and Mike Tomas not the
right guy to have if they want that to happen.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, And I guess I'll just be curious because again,
and by the way, to your point, like, yeah, they
could be two and four, but then if they're two
and four, then it makes the decision to go to
Justin Fields easier. Yes, what I'm saying is what if
you're four and three and Russ is completing sixty three
percent of his passes and you know he's not really
the answer, but again, you're trying not to give up
on the season. So you said you said it earlier.
(07:26):
I think we all agree Justin Fields is a project.
I mean, you know, it's again a weird situation where
you know, he wasn't great in Chicago, but he won
some games down the stretch. Just what do you make
of him kind of big picture where he is?
Speaker 1 (07:41):
What do you like?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Cause again I would guess at some point he is
probably going to get a shot. Yeah, and just curious
for your perspective on what he could potentially be, what
he might not be.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
It's it's a it's a very funny thing because I
think he's really talented, He's just not polished enough, and
then you go from a couple of systems having new
coordinators in to you go to another new coordinator here
in Pittsburgh, and so there's just no, we don't know
what we have and I don't think they know, so
like there has to be some time and some equity
(08:12):
put into the actual progression of what he can be
and what his game can be. And so we just
it's a big I mean, the biggest question mark you
can make. That's just him.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Sure, yeah, and what is what is the process in
your opinion for Mike Tomlin? I mean, obviously again if
it goes really well five and so let's say, yeah,
you start with the Falcons Week one, Okay, Kirk Cousins
coming off an injury, maybe get to win there, uh,
Broncos Week two road game.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Whatever. The point I'm trying to make is what if you.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Are And by the way he played, he played the
NFC East as well, So by the end of October
you also got the Giants and you got the Commanders.
I'm a Jaden Daniels guy, so I think they could
be good, but they you know, still get a rookie quarterback.
So what do you what do you think the process
is of how much wiggle room do you have do
you give Russ before you actually pull the plug and
let it or does it all just depend on what's
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going on in practice.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
I think it depends on the flow of the season
as well.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Right Like, if he's playing like he played in Denver
last year, I thought he was playing good enough for
them to make the playoffs, and they were down the
stretch right in the playoff mix, that situation soured. I
think coming into that season the coach didn't even believe
in the player anyway, and so the first sign of
(09:27):
anything faltering, he was gonna pull the plug, right, And
so that's what happened there. I think with Mike Tomlin,
the guy that again wants to win, I think the
least will be a little bit longer than that. So
I think he's gonna have a chance to actually prove
himself this year. And I don't think you go to
justin fields unless the season is over. At this point,
if you're gonna make the decision to start Russ, I
(09:48):
don't think you bring him in just because you're in
a rough patch. I think you got to ride out Russell.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
So two quick thoughts on that then one, it is
kind of funny you look at at the RUSS stats
and I'm not saying that he was great last year,
but sixty six percent completion percentage, twenty six touchdowns ATDs now,
to be fair, you know, just over three thousand yards passing,
so under seventy yards per completion. You know he's not
chucking it downfield. He's not Mahomes or Alan or whatever.
(10:14):
He wasn't terrible though, and so like like what are
you of the belief just having watched him knowing this
sport better than the rest of us, Like, do you
think he's told because there is this narrative that like
he's totally cooked, he's a placeholder You're gonna go to
Justin Field's eventually. Maybe Justin Fields is the guy, maybe
he's not. Whatever, do you think Russell Wilson's totally done?
Do you think there's any way that he plays well
enough where maybe he is the answer a little bit
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longer than just eight to twelve game window this year.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
I think there's a scenario where that happens. That doesn't
mean he's playing for four or five more years. Yeah,
I don't think that. But when you talk about a
two year window where you can still get some Russell
Wilson I guess some Russell Wilson magic. I don't know
what that even means anymore, but if you can get
some Russell wi right, I didn't go that so he
took the spatchel from a little I did not go
(10:59):
that far. But Russell having two really solid years is
not out the window and not out the question.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Let me ask you a question. I don't know if
you have any thought on this or you can't comment.
Why does everyone hate Russell Wilson so much? Like like,
it's just it's unbelievable to me. And I've obviously never
been in a locker room with them, and I'm sure
you know guys that have, and certainly not asking for
any insight that you can't share, but it's just because
it's weird, because it does feel like him and Tomlin
kind of have a vibe. Like Tomlin's spoken very highly
(11:26):
of him. I think that they they have a pretty
good relationship. I can't speak to him with the Steelers,
but as you said, Soward really quick with Sean Payton,
although to your point, I don't know if Sean Payton
ever even gave him a chance obviously soward with Pete Carroll,
and we've obviously heard the you know plenty of former
teammates that have had their own thoughts on him as
they've kind of transitioned out of football. What do you
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make of why maybe that that people just scari Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, lock of dynamics are weird.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
You come in as a third round guy, a guy
that I'm sure worked his butt off early on to
get that position, gets thrown into the fire. Team starts
to win. Quarterback position is glorified no matter what. So
you look at that team in particular, with all the
names and all the players that they have, sure ego
(12:18):
come into play. That's really all it boils down to.
Because when they were winning, none of this came out,
of course. So then when you have a little a
couple of losses, one guy doesn't want to be there anymore.
Some this guy doesn't get paid. It's just a lot
of situations that could happen in that in that locker
room with the Dynamics. So, you know, Russell Wilson getting
a lot of the credit for those teams winning, I
(12:39):
think it's fair that the other players could have a
little bit of a little I don't want to say animosity,
but a little bit of an edge against him for
getting some of the some of that special treatment that
he got. So I think it just comes down to
ego and players wanting their fair due of the of
the credit.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Interesting.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Yeah, well it's interesting because he did make the playoffs
his first five years in the NFL, which is kind
of kind of crazy to think about. But to your point,
it was a defensive led team. It's whatever, And it
was actually when they let Russ cook that that was
when all the problems started. But for people who are
joining us, Russell Wilson has been named the start of
the Pittsburgh Steelers. Last little thought from you, Carrie is
how do you think this ends this season? In other words,
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does Russ make it all seventeen games? Does he make
it twelve and they flip to Justin fields. Does he
make it three? And it's a debacle in because you said,
you know, you said, like real, if it goes well,
could have a could have a little you know, a
short runway here of a year or two.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
How do you think it ends up? It's not gonna
end well well for the Steelers. But I don't know
if it's gonna be Russell Wilson's fault. Sure, there is
a tough division. They're not going to make the playoffs.
I don't feel personally it's just too top heavy. I mean,
Baltimore's going to make the playoffs, Cleveland's going to make
the playoffs, and Cincinnati's going to possibly make the playoffs.
Right so or any combination of those three right four
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teams is not gonna make it. So and unless an
injury happens, which we're gonna wouldn't hope it doesn't, they're
not going to make the playoffs. So it's gonna be
you know, Russell Wilson. If he plays very very very
very good solid football, you won't be able to put
it on him. And I think that's the possible outcome,
the best possible outcome in this situation.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Let me ask you one last question on this. So
we're entering the twenty twenty four season. He said that
best Russell Wilson has two years and that justin Fields
is a project that does have upside. Yeah, do you
believe it's hard to say that the Pittsburgh Steelers starting
quarterback to open the twenty twenty sixth season. So so,
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three openers from now, two calendar years from next Sunday.
Do you believe that person is on the roster right now?
Speaker 1 (14:46):
No, Okay, nope.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
If they didn't give Justin Fields the chance this year,
in a new year, in the fresh year, he's not
going to be there in two years.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
In two years.
Speaker 2 (14:56):
Well, and that's that's my well, and that's why I'm
not surprised because again, hosting on Saturdays. I've listened to
the last two Mike Tomlin post preseason game press conferences
and it felt like this is where it was going.
But I just don't know why you bring in Justin
Fields on the last year of a contract if you're
not gonna throw him out there to see.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
If he could be But then again, it's tough.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And listen, I'm far from you know, Mike Tomlin's won
a lot more football games than I have.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Believe it, sure, how many? How many you got? You got? Like,
I mean, well, we.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
Want a little bit in high school. You know, No,
BIGD wasn't coaching. I mean I was on the field
making plays, sir. But but yeah, no, he knows more
than I do. But it's just like I said, it
just feels weird. That you bring in Justin Fields last
year of a rookie deal, and you basically again, he
might get run, he might not, and then you know,
God forbid he doesn't get run. Russ is good enough
(15:46):
goes nine and eight, you know, not really good enough
where not really bad enough where you can pull him,
and then Justin Fields goes somewhere in Essex.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Aaron.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
But the one thing we haven't talked in this discussion
so far is he's gonna have a He's gonna have
a couple of packages in these games.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
He's gonna play.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Yeah, And early on in the preseason, before the preseason
in camps, he was flirting playing other positions.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
So don't forget about Oh so we're talking the Terrell
Prior route. Okay, there you go, all right, Insider Carry
Carry Rhoads here has the insight on Justin Field's future
All Pro wide receiver. You are the former All Pro,
so you would know better than I am. But Fox
Sports Radio, this is Covino and Rich Show. Covino and
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Carrie Tomorrow, college football.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I'm so happy.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
I'm so happy we can stop just throwing takes against
the wall and see what sticks.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
You guys, don't see his face. He's smiling too. He's
really exciting. I'm so happy. But you know what I'm
especially happy about. We got Coach Prime year two prime time.
I gotta hear your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
I love Coach Prime and I can't wait to see
what he and the guys put out on the field tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
So we'll come back.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
We'll talk a little bit about Colorado opening their season
tomorrow and the rest of a busy week one in
college football. Aratorus carry Rhoads in four, Gavino and Rich.
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(18:38):
talked talked that Mars a big day. So today's Wednesday.
Tomorrow is Thursday. That's usually how the calendar works, but
this Thursday is a little bit different because college football
Week one is officially kicking off Saturday. Last Saturday, we
had Week zero four games.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
It was fun.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
Florida State lost, but the Big Boys all kick off
this weekend, and of course two headliners on Thursday night,
the first night of this long weekend. The first one,
obviously is the game that is on Fox as Minnesota
is hosting North Carolina. You could catch that at eight
pm Eastern on Fox. But the other one, it is
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year two of the Coach Prime era North Dakota State
at Colorado. Coach Prime joked at Big Twelve Media Days
that his ad Rick George didn't do him any favors.
North Dakota State is obviously a very storied FCS program.
Carson Wentz went there, Trey Lance went there, Easton Stick
went there, among many others. Just big picture. I'm curious,
(19:39):
you know, first of all, do you ever relate do
you know Diana and all?
Speaker 1 (19:42):
Yeah, yeah, no, oh, I knew it. Yeah, of course yeah.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
He was.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
He was a round dB.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He gave me a lot of love when I was younger,
and he's always been that guy. He's been a guy
that's been friendly, not stand office with the up and
coming guys that were in the league around my time,
especially my time, because he was telling off at that
at that end at the end of that year with
the Ravens that I think he was with the Ravens
at that time and has always shown love.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Man, he's been a good guy. Let me ask you.
Because I don't know him, I know people that have
been around him. Yeah, And I think there's this perception
from the people that don't like him that all of
this is a charade, is a front, and I think
it's the exact opposite. I just think he's the rare
person that doesn't have to play the game and say
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all the right things at the podium and be polite
and be no. He could just be himself and bed.
I mean, the guy is probably who knows what his
net worth is. He's got a ton of off the
field stuff on top of his playing career.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Da da da.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
I just bring it up because I actually think he
seems to me to actually be one hundred percent authentic,
and I think that is what actually rubs people the
wrong way.
Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yeah, authenticity is when you can be that way and
live that way. I'm just going to end that for sure,
because a lot a lot of people out here in
the world at this time, they don't they don't live
that way, and so when they see somebody living that way,
they really can't believe that it's true. But that's him,
That's who he is. He's been that way since I've
known him, and nothing has changed from the playing days
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to who he is right now.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
So what do you make of him as a coach.
Last year, obviously they have the three and oh start
took the college football It took the sporting world. By
I mean, it was the biggest It was the biggest
story of that early part of the season.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
Start three and oh.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
They beat TCU, which was the defending national runners up.
They beat Nebraska, they beat Colorado State. That Colorado State
game was crazy, the eleven Eastern kickoff. I mean I
host till two am Eastern, we got off air, game
was in overtime and I stayed until the very end.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
I think there was like.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Eleven million people watching throughout that game. But obviously after
the three and oh start, they finished one and eight
kind of falls apart. The old line isn't very good,
the D line isn't very good. What are you expecting
and what are you hoping to see from year two
in coach Brian.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'm definitely expecting a better showing than last year. They
have skilled players, obviously, which we know they are going
to be better. They've beefed up the front on both
sides of the ball, and you need that to be
competitive in any league, and so I'm expecting them to
take a jump. I don't know how big of a
jump that's gonna be during a new conference, really good conference.
And you know, when we talk about Dion as a coach,
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I think it's still TBD. I mean he's coached that,
you know, in the at the Swack level, which he
was really good at because he could get the players
that he wanted and he needed and you know, the
cream of the crop in that in that league, and
so you expected them to be good. But now it's
a step up. You got you can't talk to talk
to be successful in that league, and so he's going
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to have to get the players and we'll see. I mean,
I think it is to be the TBD with that,
but I'm excited to see what happens in year two.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Well, and that's why I like I think there's just
like a bogus narrative about him is that you know,
he's all sizzle those stake. It's like last two years
at Jackson State eleven and two, twelve and one, that's
I'm not great at math, but that's twenty three and
three overall pretty good, Yeah, very good. By the way,
one of those losses was to an FBS team there
of course in the FCS. So it's like it's like
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against like minded competition, twenty three and two in the
last two years, and so it's like, I believe he
could coach, and I think last year that like it
just got first of all, they just weren't very good.
Like I think this is what people forget too, is
like he took over the worst team in Power conference football.
And like for people who forget, like, I'm just gonna
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read you some of the scores from the year before
coach Prime got to Colorado to kind of give you
an understanding of the situation that he took over. So
last year was year one, So this was the twenty
twenty two season, the year before he got there, lose
forty one to ten to Air Force. Okay, no disrespect
to to you know, love the flag whatever, But I
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don't think they had a bunch of pros on that team.
Forty nine to seven, to Minnesota forty five to seventeen,
to UCLA forty three to twenty, to Arizona forty two
to nine, to Oregon State forty nine to ten, or
again fifty five to seventeen, to USC fifty four to seven,
to Washington sixty three to twenty. So he took over
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quite literally the worst program at the then Power five level. Yep,
they improved to four and eight. And I think what's
worth noting is even in their losses, you know, a
lot of close competitive games. I just mentioned in twenty
twenty two, the year before he got their Colorado loses
to USC fifty five to seventeen. Last year they lose
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to USC forty eight to forty one. Mentioned that in
twenty twenty two they lost to Oregon State forty two
to nine. Last year they lose to Oregon State twenty
six to nineteen by the way Arizona walk off field goal.
They lost lose to Utah by six. I know it
wasn't pretty and there were some bad losses last year.
Get make no mistake that Oregon game was ugly. They
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lost to Washington State late in the air, and it
was ugly as well. They weren't as far away from
being not great. But six and six, seven and five,
as I think a lot of people think. Yeah, And
the one thing I will say, I followed the recruiting
stuff a little closer than most, but they they brought
in some real dudes last year, like I think last offseason,
(25:10):
clean house, bring in new bodies. But the quality of
player this offseason is so much better. I won't bore
people with too many details, but we know they signed
the number one offensive tackle in high school football. But
they got an All Pack twelve defensive lineman from Arizona State.
They got a thousand yard receiver from Florida Atlanta. I mean,
they just brought in a lot. By the way, they're
starting right tackle was that in the big Teddy gave
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up one sacks starting all thirty all twelve games last year.
So that's the only point I'm trying to make is
I do think the talent is going to be much improved,
and I'm just really intrigued and excited to see what
this team looks like.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
Well, what you just said to me right now is
they're really bad last year and two years the year before.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
Yes, I mean a lot of points. That's a lot
of points.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
I mean I didn't hear I didn't hear anything lower
than forty in that rundown.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
So it was it was a lot of a lot
of bad games.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
But no, I think the thing about coaching and head
coaching that gets lost in the in the fray because
obviously the head coach and the quarterback gets a lot
of credit. But to be a really great head coach
at any level, there's a level of humility, humility that
needs to be had. He has that. And when I
say he has that, it's because when you're the head
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guy in charge, you're the face of the organization, face
of the franchise, but you got to surround yourself with
real talent at those other coaching positions.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
He's went out and got that.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
That is what I'm more That's what I'm more satisfied
with about the whole Deon brand in general. What the
shots that he take, the takes that people have on
him being braggadocious or being you know, always this bigger
than life guy. That's some of that could be some
truth to that, but there's also a bit of humility
that people miss with him and bringing in the right
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guys and bringing in guys that could be better than
you or knowledge more knowledgeable than you in certain sitution
suations is the recipe for success. And I think he's
done that. He's brought in, you know, to ask you
want anybody on staff once Apps come in help with
the D line and all that stuff, and so having
Beteran guys, other NFL coaches on staff that helps, and
so I'm excited to see what they can do as
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a unit.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Damian Lewis, by the way, former first rounder I think
Houston Texans, he played at Miami. He is on on
the staff as well. Defensive line coach is alongside warrent Sapps.
So I'm excited as well, really quickly because you know,
you did play for Rex Ryan, right, So what is
it like? Does it Does it matter when the coach
is making headlines off the field every every single week.
I'm not speaking ill of Rex because he's entertaining his heck,
(27:39):
especially on TV, but uh, because I think that's kind
of an interesting perspective. Is again, it's all fun and
games when you win. They struggled a little bit last year,
I think they'll be better. Does it matter to players?
Do they care that their coach is always in the
news that their coach maybe has had a couple of
run ins with reporters over the last couple of weeks,
As that matter at all?
Speaker 3 (27:55):
It depends on if you're winning and losing, sure, and
it's always that's always the case, and you're winning, it
covers up a lot of things, of course, and you
kind of turn it. You can turn a blind eye
to it. But when you start losing, you see really
fast that the same people that were admiring you for
being that person, for being the person that's scene and
being the guy that's making all the headlines and talking
the way that you know, like a Rex did at
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the time, once you lose, those same people attack you.
So you just have to have a little bit awareness
around that.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
No, it's really interesting because obviously last week second incident
with a reporter came out, but it's like, I don't
know how closely you followed it, but like the reporter
said some pretty nasty stuff about him, and it's like,
I don't know your perspective as a player, if you
ever had a bad experience with the media.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
You know, now you're on the other side of it
as well.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
It's like even last week, it's like it was so
easy to just oh, this guy can't you know, this
guy being Dion, Like, oh, he can't handle it. And
it's like, as somebody who did go to school for
journalism was a report, like there is a level of
like professionalism that you and the media have to attain.
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And if you don't don't have that level of professionalism,
like you're not it's not a birthright that you're given
a credential and allowed to do whatever and ask questions.
I mean, I feel like to me and and I I,
you know, I haven't really talked about it on air,
but like I don't know, I didn't really have a
problem with some of the stuff that he said last week,
especially you know, basically people who missed it the second
(29:20):
incident where there was a reporter from the Denver Post
where he basically said basically Colorado had made it clear
that they were not answering any questions from him.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, and I don't know like that that was one.
Speaker 2 (29:33):
And again, by the way, if you're if you're five
and one, people are saying, oh, he's the next Nick Saban.
Nick Saban didn't like answering questions either. If you're one
and five, Oh, the guys a hack and so I
didn't have any problem with that last week. But I
I don't know, I just I find the whole situation fascinating.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
There.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
Yeah, the beat you know, the beat writers are the
guys that you're going to be around a lot, and
so you kind of quickly identify who those who are.
And so, I mean you talk about success and failure
or winning and losing in any league, right, there's there's
guys that you know that are there to do the
job and do it with integrity and do it the
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right way. And then there are some guys that are
there to find the fishers and find the cracks to
try to poke away at that. And so if that's
if that's that guy's track record, then yeah, you don't
have to deal with that. I'm actually if that's the case,
I'm happy that the university's taking the stand and.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
Not allow him to be in that in that mix.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Yeah, among the things, this guy's name is Sean Keeler.
He's the uh comment uh columnist excuse me for the
Denver Post. Among the things that he has called Dion
a false prophet, Planet Prime, the Bruce Lee of BS.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I saw that one.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Yeah, dude, it's like, you know, to me, it's like, listen,
we all have opinions, right, and we all say stuff. Yeah,
but like if I was going after if you're the
head coach of the Denver Broncos whatever, and it's like,
I have a I have a right to criticize, But
I think there's a degree where you can cross a
line with that criticism and then beyond that. Yeah, I
(31:04):
don't know, I just like, I just I think that
I think there are ways you can say that this
guy has not lived up to expect if you believe
that Dion has not lived up to expectations now worth
noting they went from one and eleven to four and
eight in his first year. But if he's not living
up to expectations, or you believe that some of the
stuff he's saying isn't true, there's a way to say
it without calling him the Bruce lea BS, which I
don't even really understand what that even means. But maybe
(31:25):
I need, maybe I need to be a Denver Post
subscriber to fully understand the context and that and so.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, no, you get you have the right to say
whatever you want, but they have the right to refuse
you entry to questions as well.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
So it's it's a give and take.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
And obviously, yes, I mean, if, like I said, if
this guy has a history of doing this and a
history of trying to bait Dion to to do whatever,
get whatever answer response he wants, there becomes it becomes
it can become a toxic situation. So it seems like
that's what this has brewed to grown too. And so
that's where we are now.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
By the way, his most recent column, let me see
if I can find the headlines. Well, this is not
the one I was looking for. But this is this
Sean Keeler guy. He just put out a new column
and it was actually very complimentary. So let's see. That's
the point is like here you go, Oh no, maybe not.
The first part was very common. This is the column
(32:19):
from eighteen hours ago, Deon Sanders. See you buffs look smart, tough, fast.
I thought that was where it ended. Then he says,
but are they disciplined? So listen, everyone's a title to
their opinion.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
But I tend to.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Agree with you, is I don't believe that you know
just because you work for a fancy newspaper or TV outlet.
I think there's a degree of professionalism. I do think
this guy caught crossed it a little bit. I have
no problem with that, but I am excited. Colorado plays
North Dakota State eight pm Eastern Tomorrow on Thursday, and
again on Fox. We of course have North Dakota or
North Carolina excuse me against Minnesota. This is the Coveno
(32:54):
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Speaker 1 (33:22):
So we're just talking a minute ago.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Week one starts tomorrow Thursday, right around this time. Two
big ones, Colorado hosting North Dakota State, also Minnesota hosting
North Carolina on Fox. What are you excited about college?
First of all, I mean I don't want to put
an age any you're not a very old guy.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
You're not a very old guy. Yeah, college football is.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
So could you have ever imagined in whenever you were
playing college football, when they were probably checking to make
sure that, you know, you didn't take a bagel out
of the cafeteria otherwise we had to call the NCAA.
Can you could you have imagined that college football end
up where we are right now?
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
I know it's crazy, but you know, obviously things are
going to progress, and you're going to try to enhance
the game, and the players are going to try to
enhance their situation. So, I mean, I knew there would
be changes, but the level that we are right now,
I wish I wasn't this old. I know, yeah, I
wish I had a little bit, a couple more years
of eligibility. I could go out there. Even right now,
(34:22):
at this age, I could play a half, sure, you
know what I mean. So if that was going on,
I definitely would have told mom to hold out a
little bit.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, you know what's crazy too, and we're starting to
see it is you know what everyone talks about, NIO,
But it's like NIOL now is this thing where guys
are making so much in the college game.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
They don't have to leave for the pros. You know,
it's I.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Don't know if you were going to add anything, but
like like will Howard, the starting quarterback at Ohio State,
like probably would have been a fift six round pick,
but he's like, Okay, I go to training camp with
the Saints and you know, be a third stringer, be
a practice guy, and I don't even know how much
money that would make.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Or I could come to Ohio State and make so
much money.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
Io State, by the way, like four or five guys
on that defense could have gone pro, would have been drafted,
said hey, I can make more money here. I think,
like that's the crazy part that I don't think a
lot of people fully like have wrapped their heads around,
is in a lot of cases, there's more money to
be made as a college athlete than as a pro.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Even taking a step further, the number one pick in
this year's draft, Caleb Williams right I was on a
record saying if he didn't want to go to Chicago
like he was, like reports were coming out at the time,
he didn't have to. He's making enough money in USC
and it's really pretty good weather out here. And there's
no rush. There's no rush anymore. So I definitely had
(35:38):
that take as well. Well.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's crazy because there was a like probably three day
narrative where there was talk like could Marvin Harrison come back,
Marvin Harrison Junior come back to Ohio State? And I
will tell you, I don't think there was ever a
time that it was realistic, but I know some people
at Ohio State, and it was something that he did
(36:00):
think about. Was like, Okay, I know that it's you know,
thirty million guaranteed over five years, but maybe I can
get like two and a half three and I can
finish with the guys that I started with and all
those other because I mean, if you look at last
year's team, for all the criticism of Ohio State, they
went they were eleven to zero going to the Michian game.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
Beat Michigan.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
They're going to the College Football playoffkay, And so I
only bring it up because they weren't that far off
all the other guys that he came in with that
weren't going to be top three picks, like he was
decided to come back, by the way, for people wouldn't
remember this, but when the team went to the Bowl game.
Usually if you declare for the draft, you just you're
working out at you know, in Miami or LA or something.
He was with the team during the entire Bowl process,
(36:42):
traveled with the team, and like people just wrote that off.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Is like that's the dumbest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
He's not staying in college, shut up to and like,
I don't think he was ever actually staying right, But
I think he gave it a lot more consideration than
people actually believe.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
Yeah, And I don't know why people wouldn't believe that
to be the case. I mean, you're in college, there's
no real pressure, You're with your friends, You're in a
much more relaxed situation, relaxed environment, not as many expectations.
I mean, outside of yourself, why wouldn't.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
You And if you're Caleb Williams and Marvin Harrison, you're
making seven figures exactly, yeah, and driving.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
A Ferrari, So you're good, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Like the pressure of going out and providing for your family,
is that that part of it? If you're a top players,
it's not even the thing anymore. So enjoy being the kid.
I mean, I know a lot of kids want to
grow up and get out of their their families houses
and go be a man and go be a pro.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
But now with the situation with the nil a kid
for a little bit, it's not a bad life. Yeah,
we got very little time. Any one team player whoever.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
That you're most excited to see this year, any one
team the Louisville Cardinals. No, no, no, no. Besides, I'm
excited about them.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Brom did a great job in year one, almost got
a you know, almost won that conference.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I know you screwed up everything for everybody.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
The Florida State Conversation wanted't to happen if Louisville had
closed the deal.
Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, I'm excited about them.
Speaker 3 (38:10):
If we can get our quarterback to put Tyler's show suck,
I think Tyler suck.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
To actually stay healthy, I know we're going to be dangerous.
Speaker 2 (38:18):
I wasn't gonna say because I don't want to bring
any negativities, like seventh year guy Can doesn't stayed healthy previously.
But yeah, college football is here. I am so so
so fired up. I know you are too.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Again.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
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