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Get ready for a wild ride in this special Black Friday episode of Covino & Rich! 🎉 Fox Sports Radio hosts Monse Bolaños 🎙️ and NFL All-Pro Kerry Rhodes 🏈 are taking over to bring you an action-packed sports talk show like no other!

The two kick things off by reacting to Matt Eberflus getting fired as the Bears head coach after a disastrous Thanksgiving Day loss to the Lions 🦁💥. Then, they dive into LeBron James stat-padding 🏀 and ask the big question: are the Dodgers really an evil empire, or are they just playing to win? ⚾👀

ALSO, Fox Sports Radio’s very own Aaron Torres joins the mix to talk all things college — from the Heisman winner 🏆 to March Madness 🏀! You won’t want to miss it! 🎧

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yeah that is right. Welcome everybody, Happy Black Friday. Welcome
to Fox Sports Radio. You are tuning in to Coveno
and Rich, but the fellas are not here. I'm here
Monty Belanos, as you heard alongside former All pro safety
Carry Roads. Thank you for hanging out with us on
this Black Friday. I hope you're shopping. I hope your
credit card is getting a lot of action. I hope

(00:40):
you're enjoying maybe a cocktail or two. You know, I
like my cocktails. Carry That's what I intend to be
doing as soon as we're done with this shoe stick around.
We've got a great show planned for you as the
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should be. The Chicago Bears, after losing six in a row,
some really bad losses, ugly ones, specifically last night, they
decided it's time to move on and they have fired
head coach Matt eber Flus. Yes, about damn time. Do
we have that sound of what was her name of?

(01:24):
Oh my goodness, I'm blinking out on the singer's name,
about damn time. She's got that song?

Speaker 4 (01:29):
Oh no, whatever, keep talking about about it, about it, no, no, Yeah,
the eber Flues thing was definitely a you know, on
you know, a little bit over do, I would say,
would be the perfect word with that firing. You know,
you get, you get, you get a chance. They give
them a chance in year three to actually see if
they could get this the ship rolling in the right

(01:49):
direction and with all the talent, all the you know,
the new pieces coming in, couldn't get it done.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It was about damn time.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
It was about damn time. A song by Lizzo about
damn time.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh I don't know, I don't know that song.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
I tell you if you heard that clip because they
use yes, I believe if you heard that clip, because
it's not like it's new, it's been out for a
few years. But I feel like that damn time. Uh yeah, no,
it was very rough to watch the end of the
game yesterday against the Lions. Uh had a chance to
really go to overtime. In fact, they should have gone
to overtime, but instead they literally let thirty seconds go

(02:24):
by without doing anything and having a timeout. Like if
you didn't have a timeout, it's like, okay, well all right,
but you had a.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
Time out, Like even if you panicked and call a
time out at that point, you were probably panicking call
a time out.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Right, like even if exactly like the time out was
there for you to kind of calm the situation. We
literally saw Caleb Williams trying to get the team together,
getting them lined up. They seemed frantic that you still
had twenty seconds. Yes, you still have fifteen seconds. You
still had time.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I wonder, like what are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:58):
Obviously there's an etiquette, right like, no assistant coach, no
player is gonna you know, do something to I guess,
outshine the coach or make him look men a school
in a situation if I was an assistant coach on
that team. If I was somebody that was really I
probably would have called a time out. I probably would
have lost my job.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Came out he wants to call a time out. He's
calling a time out right now. I literally I couldn't
believe it as I watched it, and I am sure
everybody felt that way. And so even though the Bears
have never fired a coach mid season, there's the first
time for everything, and it was it was about dwn Tilers,
it really was. So we'll see what the Chicago Bears

(03:40):
do to end the season moving forward. But we are
now going to move on to the n b A
because the NBA. We talked about it in the last
hour on the Doug Godlib Show, so you should go
listen to that. How Carrie and I are both NBA fans,
but we're having a very hard time with the product itself.
But we have to talk about Lebron. James Lebron. Yes,

(04:01):
let's be real, this man is stat padding. Let's be real.
I wrote this down because I was like, I can't
believe this just happened. So let me tell you. So,
the Lakers were up against the Spurs by nineteen. They
were always up by double digits, never really like did
the Spurs have a threat. With thirty three to play

(04:22):
in the game, they call it time out, they come
back out, and Lebron comes back out through it. By
nineteen he comes back out, he's already played the second
most minutes behind Ad. He gets his tenth rebound. That's
a triple double. They call it time out and he
gets subbed out. Tell me that's not stat Patty, that's

(04:43):
stat padding one thousand percent. Now does it bother you?

Speaker 4 (04:47):
Yes, Yes, I've been on the record saying, you know,
the whole Yes, he's going to be number one points.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
It says the whole thing. He's played a lot of years,
played a lot of years.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Nobody is taken away from that.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
No, that's great, it's great that he's able to play
long time. But when it comes to all these records, yes,
they're going to be broken by somebody who's played a
lot of games and been in a lot of big
games and been in a lot I mean, it's just
that's that's what's going to happen. And so you see
Lebron in general and his brand. But you know, I've
talked to you about I don't. I really think it's

(05:19):
bad for the league, and I think it's also bad
when this is why he never gets This is why
players and free agents don't want to go to LA right.
You don't want to be associated with that brand because
the only thing that's going to happen when you are
part of that brand is you're assisting him in his greatness.
Nothing about your greatness is going to be elaborated in
that process. You will get all the blame but none

(05:41):
of the praise. And so that's that's my big thing.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
There's a lot of tweets I see where it's like
lebron James on the court is a minus for the Lakers.
Off the court, it's a plus, and it is. It
does feel like it's really about him this entire time.
You know, Bronni James, It's all about him, and it's
like your legacy. You're gonna go down in the books
as one of the greatest, and to some people you

(06:06):
will be the greatest, but not to everyone. And you
were talking about the records. Charles Barkley had something to
say about these said records. He's second and thirty point
games now with five hundred and fifty nine MJ's got
five sixty two.

Speaker 5 (06:24):
See that, Ernie's what, That's an amazing stuff to talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Everybody.

Speaker 5 (06:29):
I don't get into debate about greatness. So Lebron has
played how many more seasons than Michael Jordan, He's still
behind him? That's crazy, that's crazy. And listen, I love Lebron,
but for him to be that far behind MG, and
I'm playing probably eight more seasons, come on, man, y'all
need to stop this.

Speaker 1 (06:47):
Come on, man, come on man. Thank you Charles and
Ernie Johnson, the guys on NBA on TNT that we
all love, and I'm very happy we're gonna keep them around,
you know, sticking around with ESPN. We love that. But
that is such a great point that, yes, you were,
and you just said it, you were breaking all of
these records, but what is it really doing. It's not
impressing anybody, because you've already impressed us. Like Lebron James

(07:11):
does not. I don't hate the guy, and a lot
of people do. A lot of people hate Lebron James,
and I understand right because he does come off like
a MEMI me guy. I really do not hate the guy,
but he does things like my guy, why are you
doing this this, these numbers, these records that you're breaking.
To me, it's not leaving your legacy in a better spot.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
No.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
And the thing about right now, they're not gonna win
a championship right now, So what other reason is he playing?
It has to be for the stat padding and wanting
to play with his son, right that was something he
checked off his box.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I'm sure that was a part of his list.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
And does even that whole situation You get your son
active to play a game one, to come in for
a minute and never play again. And he's not an
NBA player, right, No, he's not. It's it just looks bad.
It looks bad on Lebron.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
And then you have other examples in sports. Not too
long ago, there was that clip of Nick Sirianni going
up to Saquon Barkley during and he's like, hey, you're
like on the verge of breaking your record, Like, do
you want to go back out there when the Eagles
were winning, he would have gone back out there just
for himself And he's like, no, let the young guys eat. Yes,
How is that not the mentality you want from a
guy who has been playing twenty plus years. You want

(08:26):
to leave the sport better than when you got here.
At least that's what you would want from somebody like Lebron.
We just heard Steph Curry not long ago, a couple
of days, maybe a week or so ago. They were
asking him about like what he wants. He's like a championship.
He's not worried about his threes. Yeah, like that's cherry
on top to like his game. But he wants a championship.
And we're here, Like you just said, the Lakers are

(08:47):
not this championship caliber team right now. I don't know
if they can get there. They got to make some
moves though, like and I don't know if the move
is Lebron not playing the second most minutes behind Anthony David.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
Oh he should not, he should, but he hit And.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
Oh didn't you tell us you were gonna not play
them anymore so that you can last throughout the season.
It just it's hard, and like it's funny because you
and I did a show where we talked about Angel
Reese and her stat pattying with her rebounds, remember, and
we both were like, yeah, I mean I don't mind it.
She's a rookie, ye, Like I would try to break
my own record as well, or break a record if
I was a rookie. But Lebron, you're not a rookie.

Speaker 2 (09:25):
You're a grizzled veteran. You're an old.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
Man, and your legacy in the NBA will be there,
but you're you're leaving it a little bit, I don't know,
with a bad taste in my mouth at the end
of it when it shouldn't be like this.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, think about this.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
So with the amount of years, the extended years that
he's getting right now, yes, he's getting numbers, but that's
also removing him from the conversation of greatness for me
because look how many years it's taking them to do it.
But also he's no closer to winning the championship, so
that's not going to extend.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
So you're still stuck at whatever is he four? Has
he won four?

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Four?

Speaker 4 (10:00):
He's won four. Yeah, he's not gonna win again. So
you had Mike win six and you know, like you said,
like Barkley said, eight less years. So it doesn't make
the greatness any better. It's just individual numbers, which in
this day and age, with the pace and the way
the game is going, you're getting more opportunities than opportunities
to score anyway.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Right, like if you get the fifth one, something to
think about. Let's just hypothetically say they get to the
championship and they win this fifth one. Yea, I don't
think he's going to be the finals MVP. It's probably
gonna be Anthony Davis.

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well after Davis should because he's a better player at
this point.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
But well, you're right, no, Lebron, but we would all
know that that's not it's not holding the same value
as the six finals MVPs that Michael got no like
in any way, shape or form. And we saw Michael
at the end plane with the Wizards, and like we
weren't talking about this guy trying to stab Pad. He
just wanted to play.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
He was playing.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
He was just playing, and like that that was it.
Kobe Bryant at the end rip Kobe Bryant the end
with the Lakers. We knew he wasn't out there trying
to win a championship because the Lakers weren't there. He
just wanted to play. And yeah, he had that one
game at the end, his final one when he had
a hundred shots, but that was his last game, as
he should Ark you could do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Love Dark.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I love Dark, you know, like, yeah, it's it is
just kind of watering down what he has already done,
and you could be out there playing minimal minutes and
being a positive impact player for your Lakers while developing
Dalton Kincaid and these other young guys. Dalton Dalton kin

(11:40):
Kad is not playing this weekend. By the way, folks,
if you have him on your fantasy, the Bills are
not going to be playing him. Dalton Connect connect for
thank you, Sorry about that, Antonio Benderaz Dalton Connect. So
whatever it is, I don't know have the names. I'm saying, Yeah,
like instead of helping develop your young core and again
leaving the product better than when you got here, it

(12:00):
just doesn't seem like he cares about that. And then
that's what's hard, because it's like you're Lebron James, right, come.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
On, it's there's no And another thing about I think
why the debate will never be in my opinion, him
being better than Jordan is Jordan had this air of
mystique around him. There's no mystique around Lebron.

Speaker 2 (12:23):
We know who he is.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
He's very self absorbed and he's consciously aware, but consciously
aware around everything that revolves around him. So it'll never
be that energy for me towards him, because it's not
a refreshing energy.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's a draining energy. So that's kind of where it
goes from me.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
And I think that's where we end the segment because
that was really well said. It is a draining energy,
and it's disappointing because you are great, You are one
of the greatest, and we just we just don't want
this like from one of the greatest. I wonder what
Aaron Torus thinks of Lebron James and we're gonna talk
to him, not about necessarily the Lakers, but we're we're

(13:00):
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I want to know what he thinks of Dan Hurley
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Speaker 2 (14:37):
Aaron Hi, Aaron Hi.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
Is Aaron? Happy Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (14:46):
Happy Thanksgiving. It's Friday. How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
We are great. Are you shopping? Is your credit card
getting a lot of action right now?

Speaker 4 (14:54):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (14:55):
Yes it, As a matter of fact, it is because
I literally came to the strip and my wife. My
in laws wanted to go to all the stores, and
my wife went with them, and so it's equal getting
swipes from me maybe at a you know, bar or
grill after we get off the phone here and then,
you know, unsupervised wife with the credit card is never

(15:17):
never a good thing. But you know what, it's Thanksgiving.
Happy holidays. I hope everybody had it. Did you guys
have a good Thanksgiving? I'm being so rude talking by myself.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
No, no, no, it's fine. We had a great Thanksgiving.
Happy to be hanging out here. But let's talk a
little college sports. Aaron, Carrie and I. Earlier in the show,
we were talking about the Heisman race because today we
saw Shador Sanders put on a show, put on his
own show, Travis Hunter put on his own show, and

(15:46):
then Ashton Jensen was like, I'll do a show too.
How if you were voting, who would you be voting
for today?

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Well, I was gonna say, America doesn't seem to think
there's a race. Now, your Saturday co host Manti Steve
hard Men, Oh yes, you know, he's single handedly waiving
the Ash and Gent play Listen. It's funny. Both games
were obviously on at the same time. We're out to breakfast.
I was talking to my stepdad about this. I understand
Genty is putting up historic you know, stats and everything,

(16:14):
but like I would defer to your co host right now, Carrie,
and like carry, I'll ask you this, no in all seriousness.
So buddy of mine and I told Mancy this last week.
But buddy of mine coaches on Colorado's staff. You may
know him, Damian Lewis, first round pick two thousand, played
in the league forever and I was talking to him
and he said, Aaron, do you understand how hard it
is to play one way at this level? And I

(16:37):
obviously don't, but he said, he said, Travis, just Travis.
You know he'll go six, seven, eight plays, whatever it takes,
come off. Squirre a water right back on the other
side of the field and I was telling Monty and
Steve this the other day, is like, the other variable
is he doesn't practice full time on one side of
the field either. So like, literally, there's probably nobody better

(16:57):
at Fox Sports Radio to explain just how in saying
what Travis Hunter is doing. So Carrie Rhodes, let me
ask you, and Mat you can chime in too. I
don't mean to just make it a carry thing, but like, Carrie,
is this as crazy to you as it seemingly is
to literally everybody Else's Travis's ability to play both sides
at basically an all American.

Speaker 4 (17:17):
Level, Yeah, that was the caveat, right, at an all
American level, right, because there's plenty of guys, and I've
stated this before, there's plenty of guys that can play
both ways, right, And so I don't get caught up
in that as much, right, but plant at the level
he's planted at with Also, you know, early in the
season he got nicked up and hurt a little bit,
which is part of that problem, and I think that

(17:38):
would be the part of the problem moving forward. But
right now, in the present moment, yes, it's very clear
that he's one of the best players in the country.
I'm still not one hundred percent sure he is the
Heisman win of those I mean, watching Aston and then
watching you know, Shadour as well, they're all kind of
in that mix for being that. But I think the

(17:59):
chain around the level that he's doing both of those
things is probably the separator.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
Yeah, and I'll just say this really quick because I
know there's a lot to talk about, but I think
that it's that is that Listen. I know ash Jetty
is putting up historic stats, like I don't want to
diminish one guy to prop up the other, but I
just don't, you know, listen, if it was so easy
to do what Travis is doing, one, we would have
seen it before. But two, how about this. All the
other schools that recruited Travis Hunter would like Kirby Smart

(18:28):
was like, no, you're a cornerback. Mike was like, no,
you're a cornerback, and Dion Sanders was like no, I
think it can do both and it's on you to
prove it to me. So I just think, well, sometimes
you know it. One, it's the most outstanding player in
the sport. I think he's been the most outstanding. You
know something, I remember talking to you about in the preseason,
Carrie was like, is all of this going to result

(18:48):
in winning? Well, it's resulted in winning nine wins an
outside shot at the Big Twelve Championships, So to me,
it feels pseudo no brainerish. And again I'm saying this
to somebody that, like, I don't want to diminish what
Ashton gent or cam Ward or should or Sanders has done,
but I to me, it feels like he should be the.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Guy, you know, the cherry on top of all of
that is and I think which really gets lost in
the in the conversation about what he's doing is physically,
Like I said, physically, I think a lot of people
can do what he's doing. But the mental part of it.
The guy's a smart kid too, So I think that
gets swept under table because you've got to be able
to have the retention to play both and be you know,

(19:28):
having no not having mistakes out there and plan at
an all time level, which is good, no doubt.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
And again, the ability to practice, the ability to prepare
and like you said, on short notice, go out there.
All that, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Other So Colorado being part of the Big twelve, Aaron,
that seems like a mess right now. Who's going to
go to the championship game?

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Well, we get to we get to wait till tomorrow,
play three more games because it's the only league where
both spots are up for grassy and as I told
you last week, a calculator advocates and a rub scupe
to figure out like who's actually going to come. My
understanding is if Arizona State and Iowa State win, they're in.
And then from there it feels like by you would

(20:12):
have said Colorado's gonna need a lot of help to
get there. But it is a wide open league. And
what's kind of one of what's histing about it was
the teams that we thought were gonna be good in
the preseason, like Oklahoma State have not been. But two
this was the league that everybody kind of had pegged
in the preseason as there really isn't that much separation

(20:33):
between like team one team six, team one team seven,
team two teammate. So it's kind of playing out the
way a lot of people expected. And I think it's
made for a really fun league of you know, fun competition.
I know that obviously, you know, like the Big Ten
and the SEC probably the best of the best in
that league are better than you know, the best in
the Big Twelve. But it's been a really fun league.

(20:55):
And the one thing I will say, you know, I
know you were kind of tongue in cheek there, monti
abou who's actual gonna play for the championship? Like, I don't,
I don't think we can just assume anything, you know
what I mean. You look at some of like the
Big Ten, it's like it's gonna take a sort of
a miracle for uh Michigan to beat Ohio State tomorrow.
It's gonna take sort of a miracle for Washington beat Oregon,
and even then they'd be in the championship game. Like

(21:16):
Iowa State could legitimately lose to Kansas State, b Y,
you could legitimately lose tomorrow. Arizona State could legitimately lose tomorrow.
So that's what makes it interesting. It's been a fun
league all year. Obviously, at this point, three or four
teams have sort of separated themselves, but there's such little
separation that I don't think any result tomorrow would surprise me.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Look, we could talk about college football all day.

Speaker 4 (21:36):
I know you're the college connoisseur when it comes to
to our to our Fox family. But uh, I want
to switch to basketball a little bit here, and you know,
it's it's a heavy, it's a it's a heavy talented year.
I think there's actually a lot of talented teams in
in in college basketball again, which is fun for people
like myself, Monti who likes to who likes to watch

(21:57):
the basketball, right, and so you got you got Dookie,
you kind of got Arizona, you got Indiana, all with
multiple losses already early to start this season, right, and
so obviously the it's it seems a little wide open.
Who's your favorite right now in college and what's and
what's really turning your gears over there when it comes
to the collegiate game.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
All was turning my gears at around two forty five
am Eastern the other day was when my Yukon Husky
st I know, yeah, yeah, that was tough. I think
they have some issues that have to get figured out. Listen, Duke.
I know everybody likes the Poka Duke, but two losses
where in the final minute they had a chance to

(22:38):
make a play and they didn't. I'm definitely not worried
about them. On a positive note, who's the best team
I've seen. It's actually Auburn, which sounds crazy, but you know,
they're one guys. They've really taken advantage of that COVID waiver.
I mean, I don't have the stats in front of me,
but I think like twelve of their thirteen best players,
or twelve of their thirteen scholarship players are fourth, fifth,

(22:58):
six year seniors. The kitch and I Broom, who won
the Male Invitational Tournament, is kind of the new age.
He went to Morehead State for two years, transfers up
to Alburn. It takes some kind of a year to
figure it out. Last year he plays at all SEC level,
and then this year because of the COVID year, he
gets the extra year and he is playing like the
best player in college basketball. So Albert is actually the
best team that I've seen so far this season. I

(23:22):
don't think Kansas is far behind. I don't think Alabama's
far behind. I honestly don't think Duke's far behind. You know,
I was at the Duke Kansas game a few days ago,
and like I said, they got off to a slow start,
but to me, that was more of a reflection they
had played Arizona on Friday night at basically, yeah, they
had been on the West coast for about six seven
days in a hotel room, and I think they were
just ready to get back east. So yeah, I would

(23:44):
say albert is the best. But you know, I know
you mentioned some of those teams that have already taken
multiple losses. I think the one by far with the
least issues is Duke and then you know, I hate
to say it, but I think Arnie Spaniards Arizona Wildcats
are the one that has by far the most issue,
not just because Arnie roots for him, because I think
they're actually in legitimately struggles.

Speaker 1 (24:03):
So Aaron, as a Ukon fan, how do you feel
about Dan Hurley's antics?

Speaker 3 (24:12):
Oh? This is great. You know, first of all, know
what's really great about it is college basketball really struggles
to kind of get mainstream attention during the regular season.
I hate say it, but it's the truth. And that
obviously became a national talking point. And I think the
other thing that I don't think I fully realized was,
you know, what do the kids say? You know, they've

(24:32):
been waiting on our downfall, They've been with something like
that ran downall. Yeah, exactly, and so I was surprised
at how many people were like, oh, first of all, guys,
let me say that. I heard a lot of well,
I would never want this guy coaching. Mind. Yeah, okay,
you're going to trade your scrum coach who went fourteen
and seventeen last year. But no, no, no, no, my coach

(24:55):
yells a little too much. So no, there's no way
you would ever want him when all he does is
get rings. So what, in all seriousness, what I would say,
and I truly mean this is and we've all been
around sports. Anybody listening has been around sports? What cost
you kind of game? The other day? Dan Hurley's temper
is also what makes him great. He holds everyone around
him to the highest standard. I was back in Connecticut

(25:17):
about three four weeks ago. I sat in on one
of his practices, and what kind of blew me away
was it wasn't just the players that were on high alert.
His own assistant coaches realized that it was, you know,
fourth quarter of the Super Bowl, and I need to
be on my p's and qs. So my only thing is,
you know, I'll say this, like, do I wish individually?
He had not gotten that technical that costs you kind

(25:39):
of game, of course, But I don't wish that he
was different, because if he was different, then he wouldn't
be the man who he is. And the man who
he is is the guy that has won the last
two national championships, by the way, in dominant fashion the
last two years.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah. I brought this up because I saw that too,
a lot of discoursing negative things about a lot of discourse,
and I just was like, I don't get what the
big deal is. I mean, listen, I don't think you
can act like a tough guy when you're wearing a
little Hawaiian shirt that matches the rest of your coaching staff.
So that's the one.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
I was.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
Right, right, right, I I I joke. I'm joking because
they were all wearing the same shirt. I was like, okay,
but I I did not get why people were so mad.
I just because I was like, I get it. You
want your coach to, you know, be a little bit
level headed. But it doesn't bother me if you do
have a moment.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like that, Yeah, you can be a lot You can
be level headed when you're winning, because it doesn't it
doesn't rears ugly head. But right now, they're in the
process of a little move.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
It did not bother me.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Do I have time to expand on that? I don't
know how much time do we we.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Have all the time? Whatever, what if you want?

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Go ahead?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Okay, no, no, what I would say. And again, you
guys have both been around a ton of sports, and
I again I'll defer to carry. But every you know,
every coach has every coach has to be genuine to himself.
And like, as you guys were saying that, I was
thinking about like a guy in college basketball, like Jay Wright.
Like Jay Wright is mister by the way Jay. Right
behind the scenes, he'll give you an m effort to

(27:05):
you know, he's just in public, he's gonna wear the
suit and he's gonna be this, he's gonna be that.
But in the process he's being true to himself. And
I think Dan Hurley is being true to himself. He's
from Jersey City. He's the son of a probation officer.

Speaker 6 (27:18):
You know.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Coach Hurley is obviously a Hall of Fame high school coach,
but he was a probation officer. I mean, it wasn't
an easy upbringing. You know, it's not all rainbows and
sunshine and deep breasts and let's talk about our feelings.
It's like, no, let's get to work and let's roll
up our sleeves and so and the other thing I
would say too. And I tweeted this out and people
got so mad about it. But being from Connecticut, you know,

(27:40):
Northeast chip on your shoulder, you know, people make fun
of Connecticut. It's half way between Boston, it's half way
between New York. Joe Rogan called it, you know, a
highway to New York City. That's basically what he called
it a few months back. And it's like, people in Connecticut,
I'll just be honest. You know, we could be a
little bit angry, we could be a little bit surly,
but our coach reflects that. And that's what I was

(28:00):
thinking when you guys were saying that is one Your coach,
whoever it is, college, pro, football, hockey, whatever, has to
be genuine to himself. But I also just think he
fits the fan base and the state so perfectly. And
all I can tell you, and this applies for any
coach at any level in any sport. His fan base
loves him, his fan base believes in them, and what

(28:21):
everybody else thinks really doesn't matter. You know, as an example,
Torres might not like JJ Reddick, I might a got blockbuster.
But if Blakers fans believe in what he's doing, what
does it matter what Torres thinks or what a Clippers
fan thinks, or what a Warriors fan thinks. And I
think that that's been a little bit lost in the
Dan Hurley discourse. Is his fans love him, his fans

(28:42):
believe in him, and ultimately that's all that really matters,
at least for now. Now again, you have a couple
losing seasons, you know, you cost your team a couple
of games, it's a different conversation. But he is, of
course right now coming off you know, back to back
national championships.

Speaker 4 (28:55):
Well, I mean obviously you just hit it on the
head with with that community, right, that fan base at
the the ultimate.

Speaker 3 (29:04):
Yes, we're not you know, we're a little we're like,
you know, hard on the outside, a little we're a
little soft, little marshmallow and once you get to the court,
but you know, Wettle tough on the outside.

Speaker 4 (29:13):
Yeah, and they had the perfect example of that right
with Gino Oriema forever right, that's we definitely see him
letting the players have it if they're not you know,
following the game plan or doing what they should do
on the court. But let's I want to switch the conversation.
We just you just said something about Auburn being the
best team to you, and I want to I know,
it's a big Barombaa game, and I'm really impressed with
the schedule because I'm a Duke fan, and so to

(29:35):
see Duke, you know, go out and play some teams
on the road, go play Arizona in Arizona, which is
you never really get those games, and at this time
of the year, to see them go out and play
these type of games and high level games early on,
early on in the season, right, A lot of times
I think the discourse around that is you want to
see your team win, but they're also learning so much
in these battles, these early battles on the road. And

(29:55):
so to have this Duke Auburn game to follow up
next week, I think it's Tuesday, right, What do you
think is going to happen in that game?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah? You know, first of all, college basketball, to its credit,
does an incredible job of finding a way to make
these games. And you're exactly right by the way Yukon,
you know, no rest for the weary. They host Baylor.
I think Tuesday went this week as well. So everybody's
played everybody and it's great and I do think it
certainly toughens you up for later on in the season.
You know, you go back to last year with Alabama,

(30:22):
they made a Final four, but they really struggled in
the out of conference, and I remember Nate Oates talking
about it like throughout the tournament run. Is like all
those losses we took early helped us late. As far
as Alburns Duke is concerned. You know, I'll be honest,
I would probably give a little bit of an early
advantage to Duke. I mean, you know, two losses where
they could have won either one against really good teams.
And I think the thing that we learned time and

(30:43):
time again, and we certainly see it in football, it's
just so hard to win in true road environments. I mean,
you look at just football last week with Alabama again
smoked at Oklahoma, with Ole Miss losing it Florida, et cetera.
It's just so hard to win in those true road environments.
And so I think Duke a little bit of a
chip on their shoulder. Coming off with that loss against
Kansas the other day, I would probably think I would

(31:06):
probably think that actually the edge would go to Duke,
even though I know I just said a minute ago
that Alburn.

Speaker 2 (31:11):
Of course, of course, eron your bets.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
People, imagine your best.

Speaker 2 (31:15):
I was just about to say that you said, you
said the words on my mouth.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Either way, I look genius. When next time I talk
to you, guys, Oh you said Duke was gonna win.
Oh you said Auburn was the number one team in
the country. Look at you, Torres. You know everything we
did that.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
We agree with you. We think you know everything. That's
why we had you on the show when it comes
to college sports. Erin, thank you so much for joining us.
Happy Black Friday. Go buy your wife and your dog
some more treats. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Different for each of them.

Speaker 1 (31:41):
It is, yeah, treats everybody.

Speaker 5 (31:45):
All right, Thank you so much, sir.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Thanks Aaron. All right, now let's chick in with Martin
Weiss because this NFL score has me schwucked. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (31:54):
What's going on? Is Aidan O'Connell.

Speaker 7 (31:56):
O'Connell, and like from two minutes left in the third
quarter to the start of the fourth quarter through two
touchdown passes, one the brock Bowers, the other the Trey
Tucker on a fifty eight yard bomb twelve forty weft
in the fourth quarter seventeen sixteen.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Or the Raiders the Raiders me look up like that?
The Raiders winning this game? Let you go.

Speaker 7 (32:21):
As Patrick Mahomes completes a second to twenty pass to
DeAndre Hopkins is now third down as Kansas City trying
to take the lead back in this game. Aden o'connelly
has thirteen completing so far, but the Raiders have rushed
for ninety five yards on the ground. Mahomes is twenty
three for forty two to eighty one in an interception.
She's had fifty four yards rushing thirty six of those

(32:41):
Isaiah Pacheco, but his long as thirty four, so it's
not efficient so far on the ground for Kansas City.
De hop has four catches ninety yards along at thirty
four as well. In college football, Oklahoma State beat I'm sorry,
Colorado pounded Oklahoma State.

Speaker 2 (32:57):
Fifty two to nothing.

Speaker 7 (32:58):
Sir Jorge Anders had five touchdown passes, three of them
to Travis Hunter. Hunter, the first player in the last
twenty five seasons of college football, and I have three
touchdowns for scrimmage in a game and an interception.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
He's also where was I had it? Right here? Hold on?

Speaker 7 (33:12):
Yeah, three career games for Travis Hunter with ten catches
in interception since nineteen ninety six. All other Football Bowl
Subdivision players have combined for one.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
He's got three.

Speaker 1 (33:25):
He is heisman.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
I would want to know that one, Martin. Can you
find that out for him? All look for that's some point.
It must not be Kerry Rose. It does absolutely not.
But you're in that.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
List though, you know all of the football players is
ninety six. The Chicago Bears have fired head coach Mattibra.
Flushy leaves with a fourteen and thirty two record as
head coach. She's the first head coach ever to be
fired by the Bears mid season. Offensive coordinator Thomas Brown
will take over as the interim head coach. Shane Steiken
has ruled out Josh Downs and Ashton Doolan for the

(33:57):
Colts game against the Patriots. Head coach Doug Peterson says
Trevor Lawrence will play Sunday against the Houston Texans after
missing nearly a month with an ac joint injury in
his shoulder and Dalton connect and know what. I'm sorry
match Dalty kink is not playing Week thirteen against the
forty nine ers. That's the Buffalo Bills tight end Lakers
rookie doing well exactly.

Speaker 1 (34:19):
Thank you for that. You you missed breaking news. Actually
what Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld announced their engagement. Oh
my goodness, she's off Schefter's tweet. I don't know, but
apparently they posted it. He just there it is, but
I saw it before he tweeted it. They posted on
social media. Congratulations to Josh Allen and Hailey Steinfeld. Uh

(34:41):
Carrie the Rich get richer oh Man. Yes, yes they do,
and we'll talk about that on the other side. Don't
go anywhere. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah, welcome to Box Sports. Ready everybody, you are listening
to Cavino and Rich, but the fellows are not here.
I am Monti Bolanos alongside former All Pro safety Carrie Roads.
Thank you for hanging out with us. If you've been
with us for the past three hours. Thank you, yes,
thank you, We appreciate it. We hope you've had fun.
We've had fun. But Kirie, I don't know how many

(35:24):
people are having fun when the rich get richer? And
what am I talking about? The Dyers, the La Dodgers.
You know, you and I had the plan to talk
about what the Dodgers have just done signing Blake Snell.
But now there's even more to it because apparently Tommy
Edmond has been extended by the Dodgers a five year,

(35:44):
seventy four million dollar deal with the club option in
twenty thirty. You, as a Yankees fan, how do you
feel about the rich getting richer?

Speaker 4 (35:55):
Well, I'll only be okay if we resign Soto if
we lose. So I am I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna type up a complaint to MLB, not even
to the Dodgers, to MLB and say please start writing.
Don't allow the Dodgers to get anybody else. This is

(36:15):
coming from a concerned fan. That's what I'm gonna do, all.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Right, so quick, Juan Soto if he wants there's rumors
he wants fifteen years, you would give him the fifteen.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
I'll give him whatever you want, whatever he wants. Forty
years old, that's okay. He would be forty years old.
That swing will never go away.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
And in baseball, that's you know.

Speaker 6 (36:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Also everyone thinks he lies about his age. He might
be forty years that's right, that is right, that's right.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
That's a separate conversation, right, I'm with you. I would
also give Juan Soto fifteen years if you wanted it.
We've seen it with other players that have still managed
to hit until literally the end of their career. Sure,
and so I And it's also it's won Soto like
he's gonna bring in money for you and bring in
attention that you want. Yes, there's but there's a lot
of hate right with the Dodgers. But I'm just like

(36:59):
you guys. Deferred money has been happening for years. Like
Ken Griffy Junior was the fourth highest paid player for
the Reds just two years ago. You know how deferred money.

Speaker 2 (37:10):
I know about the Bobby.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That's another one, right, No, no, no, Ken Griffy Junior hasn't
played since two thousand and eight. Two years ago, he
was the fourth highest played, the highest paid player on
the Reds deferred money. Obviously, the Dodgers are exploiting this
hole that baseball has allowed to a degree we've never seen.
But the deferred money has always been there. And then, yes,
you have your cheap owners. I mean the Oakland A's
twenty twenty four payroll was sixty two million, Blake Snell's

(37:33):
signing bonus fifty two million.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Was it really only sixty two well?

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Wow? Like, but the cheap owners have always been there.
Like people want to get mad at the owners, and
I get that, but they've always been there. The reality
is this loophole that has been allowed and Baseball has
never stopped it. And now that the Dodgers have done this,
I mean, like, do you stop this loophole because they've
already done the damage. The Dodgers are just doing whatever

(37:59):
they want until you stop that, right as they should
as as they should, no question. And I do get
the annoyance of it, of course. I mean you as
a Yankee fan dominated for decades, right Like, it is
annoying when there is a team that dominates, like the
Kansas City Chiefs. But at the same time, it's like
I guarantee you if the Dodgers come in town, You're

(38:19):
gonna all those Dodger haters and be like, damn, I
guess I should go watch the Dodgers and watch all
these stars play.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah, for sure, And I'm I'm all four.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
Like you said, then if there's a way to do
it where it falls in between the rules, and then
do it. But uh, just as and as a fan,
as a Dodger fan, I would be very excited about it. Yeah,
but I'm a New York fan. We just lost you
guys in the World Series. I am salty.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It should be because Game one and two was in
your fingertips, that heard, and it's game five and game five,
but you know at that point, oh yeah, no, game five, Yes, right,
it's all coming back to me. I was thinking of
games one and two. But you're right. Game five was rough, right,
not running to first base.

Speaker 2 (38:58):
Just pat into it and just dropping a routine five ball.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
It was just it was crazy, Garrett Cole pointing, you.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Get the first base, that's your job.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
No, that that was rough. That was rough. But yeah,
the Dodgers are getting richer as we speak. The Yankees,
you're holding on to hope that one Soto may be
there until he's forty five. We don't know.

Speaker 4 (39:19):
Fifty he might be fifty, could sixty, he might be sixty,
we don't know.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
But I would also sign Juan Soto. I totally get it.
Don't go anywhere because Kirie and I are still here
for one more hour as we cover for Cavino and Rich,
So stay right here. It's Fox Sports Radio.

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