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C&R have fun with the potential MLB "Golden-At-Bat!" Why does Rich love it so much? Can he sway Covino's opinion that it's corny? The show comes up with more fun rule changes for the NFL & NBA! Callers from all over the country weigh-in! An O.J. confession has popped up? Is Jameis Winston a revelation, or a frustration? Amen. 'SHAQ DIESEL TRIVIA' has a Swiggy & Jergens! Plus, was Trevor Lawrence's late slide to blame?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
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(00:22):
I saw this today courtesy of Fox Sports MLB. It's
all over the place. Rob Manfred says, oh from Manford Man. Yes,
of Manford Man, blond dude, bob blah, revd up like
a deuce.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
I know what you thought the lyrics were. We all
did it. Deuce revvd up like a deuce. You know
what that refers to? You know it's a cover song,
by the way, it's a Bruce Springsteen another Roller in
the Night. I've heard the original.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
I like the Manford Man version, but he's referring to
a little deuce Coop, right, make a little deuce coop?

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Well at Robert Manfred says there's a buzz around adding
a golden at bat rule to Major League Baseball, and
he says this rule would allow a team to choose
one at bat in every game to use their best
hitter regardless of where they're at in the lineup. So basically,

(01:13):
you just put your best hitter in or the appropriate
hitter in whenever you want to once per game. And
I heard the first little buzz or roomor I heard
about it was well, it's a rumor, but they might
give it a try for the All Star Game. Then
I started thinking about that too, and I'm like, imagine
making the All Star team and then you're pulled for
your one at bat because I don't even want to

(01:34):
throw Wan Soto in there or show Hey in there,
so you miss your one at bat.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
But it could be fun for an All Star game.
It could be fun for baseball.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
But my first initial thought, I'll tell you what I
thought right after we hear it from himself, the man himself.

Speaker 4 (01:49):
Man for a variety of things that are being talked
about out there. One of them, there was a little
buzz around at an owner's meeting, was the idea of
a golden at bat. That is, you know, putting your
best player out there out of order at a particular
point in the game. That rule and things like that
are in the conversation only stage right now.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Now.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm a fan of keeping things fresh and new ideas.
I'm not against that at all, but my first initial
thought was, hey, that's interesting they're even considering something that
sounds so silly to me. That sounded so silly to me.
And I don't want to say I'm flip flopping, but
rich I heard your thoughts about it, and I heard

(02:32):
other people's thoughts about it.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
They sort of opened my mind up to it a
little bit more. A little bit.

Speaker 1 (02:38):
I think I'll tell you why. I think any change
in sports is good for the most part, because if
it stinks, you could always say, you know what, didn't
change our mind? It didn't work right. It happened with
pass interference challenges, right, like, yeah, this is just about
the graphics and hockey.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
With the users. I liked it with the the tail
on the pocket. I don't know who you. I thought
it was cool.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
There are times where decisions are made and we say,
you know, that didn't work out, and you could always say,
all right, let's let's go back. I am all about
the idea of changing rules and strategies to make it
more fun for the fans. You got kids, do you
know what their attention span is? It's not getting better.

(03:24):
All these little changes to the game. Do you know
who's mad your grandpappy? Yeah, it was when Mickey Mantle
played and made Ruth and who cares what.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
They're dying soon that generation. You know what it feels
like though.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You know when you'd play whiffleball or something growing up
and you'd have your own house rules, but you go
and play at someone else's house rules and they have
like some ridiculous role like yeah, but if you hit
it off that tree and you catch, it's stilling out.
But if you hit it over the house, it's an
automatic grand slam, And you're like, really, I don't know
if I vibe with these rules.

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Every rule change. That's what it feels like to me.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
It's like, wait, you're gonna just take someone out of
lineup to throw someone better in, but once per game.
At first, it feels silly, and I'll give credit where
it's due. Rich I told him about it, and he
immediately was excited about it. But then Rich said he
heard our old pal, mad Dog Russo, also talking about it,
And you said, mad Dog found it to be a

(04:20):
great idea.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
That's so great. He said, yeah, when it cuts to
this golden golden that bad I'm open to it. He's
open to it. He's open to it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
So when I heard mad Dog's take through Rich, that
opened my eyes and ears up even more because I'm thinking,
he's our old colleague and we've known him for a while.
We know how hardcore he is for his giants and
for baseball and everything else, and like, if an old
school fan like him is open to that, maybe there

(04:50):
is something to it. And then I'm listening to Rich like, yeah,
we could always move backward on it. Think about the
bigger basis, think about some of the changes baseball made.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
The pitch clock.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
We were not all open to it right away, and
you know what, it worked out. It was fine, didn't you.
In fact, it made the game quicker and better. In
my opinion, you hear anyone complaining about none the pitch
clock now that we're a year so def into it. No,
the bigger basis. The only person I ever hear talk
about it is Rob Parker. Pizza box, pizza boxes. The

(05:20):
bases are so big like pizza boxes, Parker. Yeah, so
no one had a problem with it, but we all thought, oh,
this is gonna be terrible. You can't change America's game tradition.

Speaker 2 (05:33):
You can't do that. YO, can't do it. Let's be
real about it.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Baseball needs to step things up to make things more interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
But is this a little absurd?

Speaker 1 (05:42):
And I'll tell you a little like basketball, Like, come on,
it sounds dumb.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Every rule change that has happened in our lifetime is
met with resistance. That is true, then it happens. It's
like an update on your iPhone. The emojis now are
different colors. Remember you had the iPhone with the button
and they eliminated the button that how are we going
to wait a minute, the home button? Yeah, you just

(06:07):
swipe up now. Oh god, I'll never get used to that.
Within like two weeks, I.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Look, you're better.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, but where does this silliness stop? Because it still
feels silly. But I'm not really hating on it. The
rest the way, the rest of the world is. Danny
g told me that Dan Patrick was totally dumping all
over this idea earlier today. Here I had boxing Big
Mike was saying they were coming up with what dumber
rules could they make? I'm telling you, in our lifetime,

(06:35):
let's go over a couple so I know the initial reaction,
because I had the same initial reaction, was this sounds stupid. Okay,
it's really not that bad when you think about it.
Guess what, there was no replay in sports, how many
stupid blown calls would have been corrected? There was no
two point conversion in the NFL. There's a lot of
things they slid in over the last twenty thirty forty

(06:57):
fifty years that we get used to. Not only do
we get used to it, we're like, oh, yeah, we're
better for it. Well, think about baseball. You can't barrel
over a catcher. That's recent history. Pickoffs, they've limited that.
These are all things that we were like, come on,
but we rolled with it because the game evolves.

Speaker 5 (07:16):
There's gotta be a spot where you draw a line
in the sand, though, because where this is gonna get
ridiculous is pre show.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Meeting Rich was like a reverse golden.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
Bat, you know, because I got the reverse golden Bat's
gonna look, look who's selling out the Savannah bananas. You know,
if you got a boy, if anyone's got a son, dude,
perfect trick shots.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
People love spectacles.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
We can't expect the younger generation to have the patience
of an old person. Good luck trying. That's like it's
like trying to keep your kid off of social media
and without wanting a phone. Good ethan luck. You know
that that's a great point, rich, And I know it
sounds goofy. I heard other buzz about this new potential

(08:04):
rule throughout the day and they compared it to what
do we turn into the Savannah bananas? Would it be
all that bad to get the attention of young fans?
Does does the public? Do you guys realize how popular
the Savannah bananas are? They're selling out everywhere they go.

Speaker 2 (08:20):
It's a game.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
Let's not make it seem like it's supposed to be fun, right.
They don't need integrity of judges. And you know, I
was gonna say politicians, but there's lacks of integrity there too.
But yeah, but I'm saying Savannah bananas. It appeals to
young people. It appeals pun intended appeals, It appeals to families.
Don't you want to get more excitement involved in baseball,

(08:43):
which traditionally has been boring to a younger fan. So
as silly as it sounds, and I'm standing my ground,
it sounds silly as hell. I'm like, get out of
here because I'm a baseball fan. It sounds dumb. The
more I hear Rich talk about it, the more I
hear mad Dog, an old school fan, talk about it
and he's open to it, I'm like, oh, maybe I
should be a little open to it.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And it doesn't sound.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
Yeah, it doesn't sound as bad to me now that
I really think about it than it initially did. Evolution, baby,
everything in life we evolve. I'll give you a few examples.
Since I'm the king of analogies. Move over, cowherd, listen
to these analogies in life. We're in the holiday season right.

(09:27):
Every year, our parents would send out Christmas cards. People
still do them. Then they became personalized. It usul to
just be like a snowman on the front, like, oh,
dear friends, Uh, I love Greg, Marianne, Richie, Jimmy and Laurie.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
That's my family.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
You send them out, your parents like might keep them.
Then everyone decided I'm gonna make personalized ones with my
kids now unless it's like a close family member. You
get that in the meilic Oh look, Tim and his
wife sent me a card.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Garbage.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
He's supposed to hang around the doorway or one under
the tablecloth or something.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
I use him as coasters.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Yeah, you know, it was them to make fun of
how ugly some of my friend's kids got. You know,
the picture that picture of your kids on Santa's lap.
Put it on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok or put it
anywhere X and guess what, your friends and family will
be more likely to see it and comment. Then you
just evolution, evolution, you know, by the way, you know

(10:26):
what I really do. I'm serious.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
It's terrible, but you always get those Christmas cards from
a new parent because they're excited about.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Their new kid and their new family. But then as
the years go by, every year you get another one
and the kid's cute, and he's cute, and he's cute,
and then he hits like an ugly stage and that's
when I tear it up.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
And that's what I talk about ugly kids in my house.
I get out of here. So there's a little baby grinch. Listen.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
I spend a lot of time at Low's because you know,
you're a homeowner, that's like your number one store or
home depot. You know my number one problem with Lows.
I'm sorry, home depot, We're one problem with home deep.
I don't know what lows is number one problem with
the depot.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
I don't know what. They don't take Apple pay. They
don't the fact that I have.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Do you know how many times I've had to be like,
are you I don't have my wallet on me? I
just ran here quick too. You eat a fruit guy
on the corner and his little cart takes ample pay.
The Girl Scouts of America set up outside of supermarkets
and they're like, we have Zell Venmo anything you need.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Where the Girl Scouts here some somehow is square square Listen.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
There are times where I'll see someone even asking for money,
like you got some you got a spare dollar. I'm like, listen, dude,
if I were you, I'd put up a QR code.
I'd give you five bucks or a sandwich. But I
don't have cash on me. What am I gonna do?
We live in a different world. Get with the times,
and that includes sports. I promise you that's true. Even

(11:49):
the Hobos out here in La have Venmo Christmas cards?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
H Christmas cards.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
How you pay for things if you don't have Apple
pay or Venmo good luck?

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Do you write checks?

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I do sometimes, but no for the most part. No,
So explain how you see this work and rich why
you're sold on it, and then explain your flip side rule. Okay,
and Danny G's gonna explain the three options because there's
three options and how this is going to work. This
is so awesome. Give the three options. I'll tell you
which one's best.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:21):
So, the way I'm hearing it when I was reading
what Jason Stark was commenting about it, the three options
they tossed around were you could use this golden at
bat once anytime in the game, Option two anytime after
the seventh inning, or option three if it's a tiede
game going into extras.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
I like it one time anytime throughout the game, right,
it's like a challenge, but I think, yeah, like after
seventh inning too, though, I think anytime. Maybe you want
to use it in the third inning. Feel free. And
by the way, when we say the golden at bat,
what this means is if you have runners on second
and third and like Gavin Lux is up and you're like, yeah, struggling, Oh, Tani,

(13:02):
you're up, and he'll still maintain his position in the
batting order. And let's be real about it, kids, families,
sports fans, everybody under the moon would rather see Otani
get another bat than your boy Will Smith that you
love talking about Danny g and the reality is Danny
although it's not fair, they're getting paid tens of millions

(13:23):
of dollars relaxed. But it's not like a pinch hitter,
where you, yeah, he loses his position. He's still in
the game. It's just that at bat, right, if that's
all of a sudden, it's bases juiced and the Mets like,
oh man, who's up their eighth hitter.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
They could be like no, no, no, Francisco lindor you're
up now.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
The managers have a signal that we all know for
you know, changing the picture. So if this happens, what
would the signal be for the golden bat? Would they
have golden bat?

Speaker 1 (13:51):
I think I think that the manager has to come
out of the dug out like it's Willie Wanka be
like I got.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
The golden I got the golden like an actual golden
ticket in his hand.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
He's cashing in the bone on the top step of
the dugout, dancing around with his to.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Put the Gene Wilder top hat. Yes, and then he
goes Aaron Judge Bruce. Sounds fun, but it sounds like
a circus. It sounds dumb.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
I think it's amazing, and I have a counter to this,
all right, So it's the counter. So you have one
golden at bata game. And if anyone hates this, you
just hate fun. Really, I mean, it's baseball. When this
is not like brain surgery, you are the most fired
up a bat. It Listen, if you're at a game
and all of a sudden, you're like, man, I would
really love to see, uh, give me a stud player.

(14:33):
I would love to see Raphael Devers with another at bat. Well,
it's base is juiced in the seventh, put him up again.
I love this idea. Now to counter it, though, I
think every team should have one golden at bat ticket,
really a Goald ticket with the top hat.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Counter it with the blocker.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Now, I think, let's say Hadres Dodgers bases are juiced.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Otani's on, Freddie Freeman's on, Mooki.

Speaker 1 (15:07):
Like, let's let's let's say let's say Mooki's on and
Freddy's on, and you got Otani at the plate. The
defense has one skip. It's not an intentional walk. It's
a we're gonna hold up our skip, like like you're
playing Uno or something.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
What if someone uses their golden at bat? Can they
use the skip? Is like a game of Uno.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
You could revert and then and then Danny the Dodgers
to be like, well, you lost your skip because we're
gonna bat him anyway.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
It's base.

Speaker 6 (15:38):
Now.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
This is where it gets corny. The greatest idea. I
love it.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
I so badly want to do that. I want to
implement this in my softball league. I'm gonna propose this tonight.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
How about this?

Speaker 1 (15:48):
How about if the golden ticket works for the at bat,
you try it out spring training, all Star games, something fun,
novelty like that. If it works, then maybe you could
incorporate a skip. I don't know if if you could skip,
I'm sorry skip, I don't know if you could then
have this Uno strategy involved cove.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
How would the skip work?

Speaker 5 (16:08):
You as the manager, you get to pick which of
their players goes to bat in that situation.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
But I think it's just a proceeds with the batting
goal right right, skipping that batter like yeah, no, we're
not facing him, but if he wants per game, let's
say that the Marlins are playing the Mets, and the
Mets have the bases loaded. Pete Alonzo's up, but you
know who's on deck? I don't know, Iglesias. The Marlins
gonna be like, we're gonna use our skip.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
So it's the reverse of an intentional walk. Yes, because
the batter does not go to first base, it's skip.
So are you really buying into that?

Speaker 7 (16:39):
No?

Speaker 2 (16:39):
No, even the skip. I should be the commissioner.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
You know you're really buying into that because this is
for real and I do.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
I don't know. I do hate change, but I'm open
to trying this out for the fun of the Get this, guys,
it is just the game.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Really is a game. I know we take it real serious,
but it's just a game. And if this makes it
more fun, and I know you want to say, what
is this, Savannah bananas. Guess what, Savannah Bananas are fun.
They're exciting, and they're selling out and they're intriguing to
younger fans.

Speaker 2 (17:14):
There's a game that.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Has to evolve, and there's no harm in trying the
Golden at bat. I think that's where you stop it
for now, and if it works, then you incorporate some
other things or other goofy ideas. I think, listen, what
did more people watch in anything this year in the
United States and the world. Mike Tyson, Jake Paul So
to pretend that we don't like an excitement is fun.

(17:37):
It was novelty and fun and spectacle novelty gimmicks.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
I think the one thing the NFL needs to do
next year.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
If you want to talk about rule changes, We've discussed
this and it's come close with the rules committee. With
the NFL, the on site kick has such a terrible
conversion rate. They've talked about the team instead of kicking
off after they score, they would get the ball their
twenty or twenty five yard line and it's fourth and fifteen.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
That's what we need to keep in mind that these
are games and you're just trying to make the game better.
Guess what, I don't It's just a game.

Speaker 8 (18:12):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I mean, you could still take it serious, but just
like you take a board game serious, they're just trying
to make it better.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
What it's for, little rule.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
There was a game I played. We played when we
were all with our buddies in Miami after some drinks
and some fun. Oh telestrations yeah, telestrations. It does all
these fun games. Guess what, I don't play anymore Monopoly?

Speaker 2 (18:30):
What are you? Seventy five years old?

Speaker 8 (18:32):
Ninety?

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I love Monopoly? You would, I was Sam? You don't
have Instagram? All right? So why what the hell there? Kids?
Fox Sports Radio names?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Never you think you think my kids would sit down
for Monopoly?

Speaker 2 (18:44):
I thought you guys were Monopoly guys. Get out of here.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
What do you think about the golden at bat rule
that's been proposed? Your thoughts on it? Does it sound corny?
It does sound a little corny.

Speaker 8 (18:54):
Could it work?

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think it can hit us up at Covino and
Rinch or call us.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
Now we're talking about this golden at bat rule that
they're throwing around today. I love it, and I'm being said,
I'm being I just want to everyone to questions though,
I want everyone to know I'm one hundred percent serious
when I say I love it.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
Love it. I love it.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
I love it, I love it. I love it like
Lyle love it. I love this because of it, like
John love. It's so true, so true, I think, and
I'm reading all the benefits that sports. That's the ticket,
the golden ticket. That's the ticket. I think sports is
about fun. I said this in the hallway during the breaker.
Go guys, what sports fun? Right? Like? The same people

(19:34):
that would resist any fun rule change are probably the
type of people that don't like our show because we bring.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
The boom lead to like a Harlem globetrotter's game.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Of course. Yeah, but you don't want it to get
out of hand.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Dude, It's not twenty seven at bats in a nine
inning game. One time in the game you could elect
to put your best hitter in for someone else in
a key spot. And I said to Cavino during the commercial,
I said, listen, I want you to paint a picture
closure eyes for us. Okay, it's Dodger Stadium, tid game
against the Padres, no peaky bottom of the knife, and

(20:09):
all of a sudden, Dave Roberts comes to the top
step of the dugout fanfare starts playing. He reaches into
his back pocket golden checkouts. It sort of music is oh, mister,
perfect theme from wrestling. Remember that, Oh dum, I picture

(20:32):
like a two thousand and one space out as he but.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Imagine doom, doom, doom doom.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
Don't imagine how electric lots of timpany how electric would
Dodger Stadium be in that moment. Yeah, it would go
wild if he used it to take out some lame
mass banner to throw Otani in.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
There, or you know, you take out every team's got
a star dude to reverse it.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
At San Diego, you put machado or tattoos up in
a key spot.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's only fun. So here's my question.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Though. I heard Ben Erlander talking today that with this rule,
you choose your golden hitter before the game, so you're
choosing your best That's the way he sort of presented it.
I think it should be like an impromptu decision, like
they've got to figure all these things out. Danny g

(21:22):
said there's three different variations of how they would use it.
But my understanding when Ben was talking about it from
MLB Network was that Aaron Judge is like your he's
your golden at bat and you could use him whenever
you want, like you're saying when you hand in the
lineup part at the beginning of the game, okay, and
then you know, if you're thinking this sounds ridiculousness, oh

(21:42):
it's too much, you don't You could always pitch around
this golden at bat, can't you. I mean not only
that worst case scenario you walk a run in or
you walk them, but you're just handling it like a
regular at bat.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
I sort of.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Negates it to some degree. I genuinely think it just fun.
What's up Dan Byer, guys. I appreciate the showmanship of
it all is.

Speaker 9 (22:04):
I felt that coaches challenges in the NBA and even
the in the NFL should have some sort of drama,
like a special card that's to be played and you
take to the scores desk.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
How about this golden batter must wear gold helmet, yes,
or golden batting gloves, So there's gotta be something yet
or just or.

Speaker 9 (22:25):
Your on field play is the gold fitted cap that's
different than everyone else.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
To show how special you have a gold crown, then
a crown on top of the helme.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
Don't be ridiculous, guys, this is I mean seriously, wait,
so you you do not like this or you do?
I don't really care to be honest with you. I
don't think that it's really in the spirit. I don't
think that you If I was to side one way,
I would say that this is not an option. But
I don't mind them trying to try to look at
something different.

Speaker 1 (22:55):
But let's not act like theatrics aren't part of it.
Does every head coach in the NFL need to throw
the red challenge flag? They could just tell the ref
but there is something dramatic about throwing or about Bill
Belichick would just drop.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
It like there is theatric. So let's not pretend this
doesn't happen.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
And we're talking about the NBA ratings are down, Danny
g you during the break you were saying, you're watching
sequences now where they're going back and forth six possessions
and are it's like three point, three point or three pointer.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, there's a lot of debate.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
We talked about it on the show last week of
why NBA ratings are low right now. And there's some
diehard NBA fans who they're saying this is their first
season where they're not tuned in for as many games
as they would normally watch. I'm thinking, and I know
this is the last Tuesday for qualifying for NBA Cup.
What if in the Cup games Tuesday and Fridays, in
the fourth quarter, you put a five point spot out

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there on the court that's almost mid court.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
You know, what, Danny, This is genius because it doesn't
in like a tournament already have special courts.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Dude, it doesn't apply to the regular season, so the
traditionals would be like, all right, if you said, just
during the NBA Cup games, there was a four let's
forget the five, a four point shot and it was
like five to ten feet back from the three pointer,
that's a start of something I think that could.

Speaker 2 (24:09):
Work for especially for the tournament. How about that five? Oh,
I'm sorry, Dangle, Well that's that's okay. Did you have
a joke? Because I have a legit a go ahead.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
With the five point line is actually a decal of
Caitlyn Clark's face just on the court.

Speaker 2 (24:22):
How about that?

Speaker 1 (24:23):
So at the logo three, you interrupted Dan Bayer for that,
I did, Yeah, But Dan, on with your SIUs business here.

Speaker 9 (24:30):
I've brought up this proposal with field goals somewhat tongue
in cheek, but there is a reality to it. How
about in the NBA Cup you switch it. Three point
shots are two pointers, two point shots are three pointers.
Then see how your game changes. So now you're going
to the basket and you're not just doing launch. You
know that launch that balance things out. Actual the actual

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goal of trying to get as close to the goal
as you can to score the maximum amount.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
Of points, and then wide open three would now be two,
so it's a little easier. But you got to get
in the paint if you want to throw the rests,
which should really be the ultimate goal.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
I've said this about field goals in terms of if
you were to make a change, the closer you get
to the goal line, the more that field goals should be, right,
because isn't the goal of trying to drive down and
score and move the football. So instead of just being like,
we'll just kick this sixty yarder, which is the same
as a twenty yarder, you.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Right, if you get to the if you get to
the four yard line, it's like fourth and goal and
you're like, oh, damn it, maybe that's four points instead
of thing, yeah, you get.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Four look at it.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
Look at all the way that you've traveled down the
field already, and inside how about this?

Speaker 2 (25:34):
How about this dB that's true. I never thought of
it that way. That's a good point. Inside the red zone,
it's four point. Yes, here we go.

Speaker 9 (25:42):
You're down by three. You guess what you're not going
to settle for the field goal. We're going to try
to get inside the twenty to go for the win.

Speaker 1 (25:47):
And all of these things sound a little funny because
it's new. It may come across a little goofy, but
that's how every rule changed to out. Instry has yeah,
has begun and how and that's how it feel out
and then we got used to it, and that's just
become the game. Wait, you're gonnaund a date on the internet.
That's crazy. Now, look how everyone meets now about Uber.

(26:09):
You're gonna get in a car with a stranger. They're like, yeah,
didn't we do that with regular taxis? Yeah, but they're taxis.
These are just people. And now we're in ubers and
we don't know who they are and we get in
there with no problem. But at first it sounded weird.
Bottled water so golden at bat and when you throw
in the the theatric strich, like Dan Buyer said, music moment,

(26:34):
they're throwing in their best hitter.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I think that's kind of cool. Gold batting gloves.

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, and it sounded corny to me, but I'm buying
into it because.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Phones are all hot.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
So everyone hold on because We're gonna go through all
the phone calls, but baseball needs it. Well, let's got
a Dan Buyer for an update. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (26:49):
DBB?

Speaker 9 (26:49):
We do have a baseball signing Red Sox and are
all this Chapman agreeing on a one year deal with
almost eleven million?

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You know what I love about this?

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Covino hates Chapman when he was a Yankee. I hope
he shuts them.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
He show remember he had a terrible ending with them.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, I hate Chapman. Been on what like six seven
teams now, yeah, yeah, it's been. It's on Pittsburgh.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Red's Pittsburgh Rangers, Yankees, not Red Sox. And there's more.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm sure. Let's not pretend that things don't change. Evolution, baby,
I said it last hour online versus doing things in person.
Christmas cards that I mean, are you still getting those

(27:35):
in the mail? Like think of the things your parents
and grandparents are, Christmas lights and how outdated some things feel. Sports,
like everything else, you will continue to see an evolution
of rule changes and subtle differences, and that's just called.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Progress. It's time to change, it's time to rearrange. When
we first started in radio.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
Danny g you and I Anchory do we all come
from not only sports radio and TV, but radio music.

Speaker 10 (28:02):
Dude.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
I was using reel to reel when I started True Story.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
There were like old timers that are like, I want
to always play records and carts and it's like, dude,
we have computer systems now, and they would resist, and
it's like, what are you resisting?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Dude? Those who resist will be replaced.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
There were dudes like Rick D's where he demanded to
have old equipment in front of him that he was
used to.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
Come on, man, move along, let's go to your phone
calls the Golden at bat. Who knew this would bring
so much fun and controversy.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
I think it's really and I really believe it, But
I do think it's hilarious too because it gets people talking.
And you were saying some even more interesting thoughts off
the air. As far as like other rule changes, Tom
Brady saying that there should be penalties for quarterbacks who
like deceptively slide late.

Speaker 2 (28:51):
I've seen mahomes do that a few times, more than
a few times. This season.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
We see it a lot, and you're right, there should
be some sort of penalty against that. I even heard
Rex Ryan saying that coaches should be teaching these quarterbacks
to be diving head first in those situations, not the
way Trevor Lawrence was sliding in that moment. I mean,
Tom Brady on you're saying you got to take their
ankles out. Tom Brady on the Herd earlier today was

(29:14):
saying that that quarterbacks were not that we're crying about it,
like good quarterbacks are putting dangerous positions. Meanwhile, offensive coordinators
are calling more design quarterback runs and then we get
all mad when they get hurt. Yeah, you got to
think of the reasons, right, The reasons aren't sometimes safety reasons.
That's always a good thing. And to make the game

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more exciting. We're living in a different time, a different world,
a different place. I can't even sit through a movie
because I get so bored because I want instant gratification.
We're living a social media lifestyle. Baseball slow moving. This
could add a lot more fun, plain and simple. Let's
start with Chad, you're on the show, Kavin on Wretch,
what do you think man?

Speaker 2 (29:57):
Rapid fire?

Speaker 11 (29:58):
Hey guys, I'm not opposed to change, but can we
come up with a name for it that's left gimmicky
than that golden at bat. That sounds like something you
make up in the back yard.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
You know, it's so fun you know what, I think
that's it's funny. Though his thought was funny, it sounds corny, right,
That was my first thought too. I'm like, come on,
Bruno and Brooklyn, what's that Bruno?

Speaker 12 (30:19):
Tell them gonna after.

Speaker 6 (30:22):
This?

Speaker 13 (30:23):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (30:24):
I love it. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 13 (30:25):
You can watch those games man, where it's dragging, nobody's
getting anybody out, nobody or nobody's turning the turning anybody
around the plates. Next thing you know, they give them
the flag outcome. It's like it's gonna be like, you know,
almost like a wrestling day. You're gonna bring your powerhouse out,
but better yet, what's just gonna do to the rotation?
As far as your pictures, what are they gonna do

(30:46):
with these guys coming out of the ten All of
a sudden it's a tie game.

Speaker 14 (30:49):
You bring your race out, I mean, you bring your
golden batter up. But at the same time, now you're
looking at maybe the eighth inning they might.

Speaker 12 (30:56):
Lose this game.

Speaker 14 (30:57):
So now you're changing, You're pulling guys out at the
ten you're you know you're gonna change.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Yeah, strategy.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
By the way, dude, fans are there for fun, right
They get to see their favorite batter most likely fine
six times yeah and any key spot more when we're
up at per game.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
That's what it's all about. Now, make it, make it
snappy Andrew and Bakersfield? What's up?

Speaker 11 (31:18):
What's up?

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Strangers?

Speaker 12 (31:23):
All right?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
I am I hate it. I think it's an obvious
ploy by the MLB to get viewers to watch the
game exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Wow, it's a ploy to get people to be interested.

Speaker 8 (31:36):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
Shocking, you know, keep and on hold. I want to
get to that more next.

Speaker 6 (31:41):
Okay, So what I mean by that is, let's say
a guy's watching the sixth inning and Dodgers are coming up,
and he's like, oh crap, I gotta go to the bathroom.
He's like, who's up. It's Hernandez, will Smith and Rojas.
He's like, all right, I'm gonna go. And I'm saying
that the MLB it's a ploy to always have the
option of the golden at bat to come, so you

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could never leave the TV, you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (32:05):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Yeah, but how's that a bat? That's that's their goal.
They tuned in to keep you excited, to keep you
on the edge of your seat. Think the fans, the
fans at the at the stadium, how exciting it would
be for them to see their favorite player one more time?
You might say, silly, I think fun. That's why every
think of every reality show. We'll find out who wins, dude,

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after the break, you know, come on, dB, what's up?

Speaker 2 (32:29):
That's why I hate movies. Just tell us what's going
to happen at the beginning, you know, like, just tell us.
Get it over seriously.

Speaker 9 (32:36):
Yeah, why am I sticking around here for two hours
to find out what happens in this murder mystery?

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Come on?

Speaker 1 (32:42):
And by the way, it's so funny because I sent
this story out to a lot of my buddies, my
baseball buds, right, the baseball bunch, Johnny Bench, all of them. Yeah, everyone,
Rob Manford says, there's buzz around adding this golden that
bat rule. The rule would allow a team to choose
one at bat in every game use their best hitter,
regardless of where they are at in the lineup.

Speaker 2 (33:03):
I could promise you all my baseball buddies would be like,
this is the word.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Yeah, That's what's interesting about it, because that's the initial
reaction always, even my initial reaction, our buddy Sean that
is so dumb, right of course, our buddy Barry Cirelli,
Chris Man, I don't know about that. Sounds weird. I
don't know, sounds stupid, that's the initial reaction. But I
think it would be interesting to try it out. Let's

(33:31):
start with the All Star Game. Let's start somewhere spring training.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
It can't hurt.

Speaker 1 (33:35):
Life's about change, Like I said, doesn't change the competition
aspect of it. And pitchers got to step up and
get that guy out just like they normally would.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
And I know it's different.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
But when I keep talking about change, what was the
big funny takeaway in the movie Air about Michael Jordan
and Nike. There was a time where the NBA is like,
your sneakers could only be two colors. Sneakers don't There
were times.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Where we had the idea that they were the ugliest
looking things. Now they were the coolest.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
You know, there was a time where every sports team
in any sport had two jerseys, a home and away.
And you remember in the beginning, how did people react
to the first ever alternate jerseys or city connects or
any of those.

Speaker 6 (34:21):
What are we doing?

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Yeah, people don't like change, They just don't. Just keep
that in mind as we move along here on Fox.
So if you want to.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
Chime in with your opinion, hit us up at Covino
and Rich at Fox Sports Radio the Golden at Bat
before we get deeper into the NFL, because I want
to do that this hour. Cat throw two quick stories
at you that I wanted to touch on today. Sure,
how do you feel about OJ Simpson who passed away

(34:53):
within the last year. He was great and naked gun,
which by the way, came out yesterday in nineteen eighty eight. Hell,
what a couinky? Yeah, what do you feel about Oj?
One of his former bodyguards is now saying I have
a confession on audio from Oja.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
His name is iraq Avelli.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
I believe iraq Avelli, a former bodyguard, is involved in
some other sort of thing where there was a warrant
where they could search his stuff and he found all
these thumbnails on these thumbnails, apparently, Minnesota cops say, is
a confession from OJ Simpson?

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Would you want to hear it? Or no? Why wouldn't we?

Speaker 1 (35:36):
It's just one of those long drawn out stories. You're
watching the John Bada Ramsey thing on Netflix. I was
just gonna say that happened, you know, when we were
in high school, and I'm still watching it because we
want to know, like, well, what really happened. It's like
grassy Kole footage. Seriously, you know, what are the end
of the ind of the rock? He gets the footage film.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
Yeah, but then he did admit to it in that
did he in that book?

Speaker 6 (36:02):
You know?

Speaker 1 (36:03):
But no, but for if I did do Yeah, if
I did do it, if I did it. But honestly,
if there was audio, I'm just saying so audio could
be misleading as if there was audio that was deemed
legitimate by I don't know some people that do that.
Would you watch like a special, like if they did
like a sixty minutes or some dude, would that be

(36:26):
a fifty would that be like one hundred million people watching?
Of course, as I always say, I watched a documentary
where a man falls in love with an octopus and
it won an Academy Awards. True, you don't think I
would watch the Confession of OJ Simpson and the story
of this absolutely.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
One of the only times I ever heard my mom
curse growing up is when Heraldo opened up that vault.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Oh yeah, I vault.

Speaker 12 (36:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I remember watching that too because it was like a
live event. So we're like, they're gonna find bodies or money,
a safe weapons? What are they going to find an
al Capone's vault? And it was a live TV special,
same as you, Danny G. I remember, like my parents
so disappointed they found a few glass bottles, like.

Speaker 13 (37:12):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
I remember how long the lead up was al Coupone's
Vault with Haraldover.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
I remember that too, Man, what year was that. I
was a little kid. I remember because it was exciting
because it was live television and nothing.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Happened in nineteen forty nine. Yeah you're a little kid.
I was just a little kid. I think everyone would
watch it. But even though there's no video eighty six,
so I was here a little boy, little boy. So yeah,
if you were going to hear the audio from these thumbnails,
the thumbnail that this guy has of apparently OJ confessing,

(37:46):
can you picture David Muir on ABC with his serious
voice like, now we're going to go to the OJ
thumbnail thumb listen.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
Yeah, no, I would absolutely tune in. Who wouldn't. That's
one of life's mysteries. Who left, who let the dogs out?
Who killed John Brene Ramsey? And did OJ do it?
Who shot j R? Yeah, there's another. That's another one.
And where's the beef?

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:09):
I still don't know. No one knows.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
And my other question is as we get into the NFL,
as we're all fascinated by the personality and just cool
vibes of jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
He is the clear example of live by the sword,
die by the sword, meaning he'll throw for almost five
hundred yards and look amazing doing it, but there'll be
a couple of oopsie daisy, but so many oopsie daisies exactly,
He'll he'll throw the team pick sixes, he'll lose it.
But again, that's how you that's how he keeps his

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team in the game, and that's why he is who
he is, why he's.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
So such an exciting must watch player, so frustrating to
watch sometimes it.

Speaker 7 (38:52):
Is it is in times like this, you know that's
it's it's the opportunity took continues took off out of
lower even through the toughest circumstances.

Speaker 8 (39:04):
I know him better than this.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
I know.

Speaker 7 (39:06):
I'm like, I'm just praying for the Lord to deliver
me from pick sixes. Like that's just that's not me.
Like a phenomenal game. Offense do some great things, but
I mess it up.

Speaker 1 (39:20):
I went to church as a kid. I always said
it was deliver us from evil. Amen, It's deliver us
from pick six as amen. I'm sorry, was all right?

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Got updated? He didn't know that they changed it. They
do that once in a while.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Now, if you include this is something I saw on
CBS Sports, If you include the one hundred and seventy
one interception return yards that Denver had, Winston finished with
six hundred and sixty eight passing yards plus the section
turn yards combined, which is the most by any quarterback
in a single game in NFL history. So again, he

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almost has five hundred yards, but he broke another odd
record you don't want to be a part of. He
had the most passing yards combined in either direction, in
either direction in NFL history. But that's the type of
game he provides. And as a fan, you're sitting there like, wow,
this is wild. Well, you ways he could make magical

(40:12):
things happen, But you're always putting yourself at a risk. Car.
Now you're going from one of the more hateable guys
in the NFL, from Deshaun Watson, to a really enjoyable,
likable dude in Jameis Winston. Do you mind if I
bring in the voice of reason here for a second,
Dan Bayer, if you would indulge me for a moment.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
He does have the voice of reason, Dbach, I'm listening
to reason.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
When you look at Jameis Winston, and there are moments
where it's like, man, that excitement. We remember him in
college and the high hopes, and he seems way more
mature now and a guy that his teammates respond to
and they like him.

Speaker 2 (40:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:47):
Is there anyone any head coach in the NFL that
could perhaps harness the wildness of a Jameis Winston but
keep that passion? And I'm saying, is there a way
to make Jameis Winston work?

Speaker 9 (41:02):
I think that that ship has sailed. I think when
you look, especially when they but when you look at
the coaches that he's coached under or have coached him,
Bruce Arians, Sean Payton, Kevin Stefanski, and he's still throwing
three pick games.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
That's who he is.

Speaker 9 (41:21):
The guys that are just going to throw interceptions. By
the way, you see the you see the high side
of that. It's the that's what makes Brett farv Brett Farvre.
It's what I felt make Eli Manning, Eli Manning Is.
He threw passes that other quarterbacks wouldn't throw. And I
just think that Jamis it is who he is, so
you're gonna have to live with it.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Yeah, you see strokes of genius, but you see a
lot of sloppy play. He's the only guy that makes
him who he is, only guy that could throw thirty
touchdowns and thirty picks the same season.

Speaker 2 (41:50):
Hey man, he couldn't see all right? Yeah he had again?
Remember he had again?

Speaker 1 (41:54):
Guydery, he's your quintessential Like, is that like a farvarn
Eli like a gunslinger?

Speaker 2 (41:59):
He just you know, there's gonna be times you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Dude, just throw that ball away, take buddies. But three
major interceptions, but an exciting game. And I was rootin.
I was pulling for the Browns last night. They lose
to the Broncos forty one thirty two last night. You
look at Jameis Winston though, and I do wonder if
you have any thoughts would love to hear it At
eight seven, seven, nine nine on Fox What Coach If

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there is one?

Speaker 2 (42:26):
I think it's like it's the alphabet theory rich she
has all these magical powers, she just needs someone to
harness them. Uh limit? Yeah, are you saying James Winston's
uh limits? I've seen this in the movie Wicked. I
know coach?

Speaker 15 (42:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (42:43):
Is it Andy Reid? Is it Kyle Shanahan, is it?
Sean McVay is there?

Speaker 11 (42:46):
So?

Speaker 2 (42:47):
I mean the me pointed out He's played for some
pretty solid offensive coaches. It's just who he is.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
It might be who he is, and it's like almost
like a slugger who you can't get him to not
chase high fan balls, like, yo, he's going to strike
you out two hundred.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Times his bomb, but he hits bombs right.

Speaker 3 (43:04):
Troy Aikman said that when when he played under Sean Payton,
he cleaned up a lot of those mistakes. But then
as he was saying that, I think James was in
the uh was throwing pick sixes. So he's clearly kind
of regressed a little bit.

Speaker 9 (43:15):
I actually thought he was washed guys, to be honest
to a little bit of what Sam's playing, saying because
Jamis wasn't putting up those pinball numbers that we've seen,
So if you want him to be a guy. But
I don't think that that's why you want Jameis Winston.
I don't think you want to soften Jameis Winston. So
if you want him to throw four hundred and ninety
seven yards, he's going to throw three interceptions in that game.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You just have to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Has anyone else in sports talk radio, TV podcasting gave
the analogy. Covino just gave that Jameis Winston is like
Alpha but from Wicked, because if not.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I mean, that's what makes me who I am.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
Man.

Speaker 2 (43:49):
Yeah, I got all these great examples. It's a good one. Yeah,
Numero Luno, Yeah, yeah, he makes our show different.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
Man Power the store can't harness power. She's the Wicked Witch.
She has all these towers she does and know how
to harness him like Els and Frozen.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Another one.

Speaker 7 (44:02):
There you go?

Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, where girl, dads?

Speaker 3 (44:04):
Clearly, are you gonna be talking about Wicked for the
next month? Yes, because I haven't seen it and I
don't really want to see it.

Speaker 2 (44:08):
Oh it's pretty good. I want to say you don't
have Instagram.

Speaker 3 (44:11):
I say I saw Gladiator too good or I enjoyed it.
It doesn't it does not stink. It's far from that.
It's it's a good, solid B movie. It was very entertaining,
but the plot was a little clunky and the dialogue
was not quite inspiring. But very fun movie. I would say,
go see it.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
It's very fun. Uh, Wicked, was you going very fun?

Speaker 1 (44:31):
I thought last night's game was very fun, and I thought,
you know, watching Jameis Winston for for good for bad
is always very fun. Oh can I make one vain
observation because you you said the same thing. Sure, In fact,
I'll let you take it away, mister Covana. Okay, well
we saw again lots of greatness last night. You see
bone Nicks too, and you can't help but recognize the positives, like, man,

(44:54):
this guy is a bone a fide quarterback in the
NFL winnies.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
Sean Payton got his guy. They got their guy. Good
for them.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
And then you're like, how old is bone Nicks. I'm
looking at the guy, I'm like, he's doing twenty four.
He's twenty four years old. He looks like he's forty
four years old. I'm sorry he and not that that
matters at all. It's just a pure vanity observation. It's
really nothing.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
He looks so old.

Speaker 5 (45:24):
There's a split screen meme that has him next to
Zach Wilson and it says he's Zach Wilson's dad.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Oh no way, So I'm not the only guy saying dud.
I mean, I didn't see that. Dude.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
He's older than me, talented twenty four year old quarterback
with a bright future in Denver.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Did he squad?

Speaker 1 (45:42):
But his face looks like a defleated football I honestly,
if you told me the guy, if you told me
he was forty four years old, I would believe you.
I was saying, I'm twenty years older than him, and
I don't think he looks at all. I feel like
he looks my age, Joe. He's got some cool spiky hair, yo.
I didn't really notice it until yesterday man Primetime Monday
night football game.

Speaker 2 (46:03):
Of course, I seen him playing all the highlights. I
know what he looks like.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Something about last night that hit me. I'm looking at
him and I was even thinking, Jameis Winston.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
How old is hey?

Speaker 1 (46:11):
You guys thirty years old. Man is a wild game man.
Denver's got their guy. And then I'm looking at him,
I'm like, he looks old as hell. He looks like
he's forty four, not twenty four. I'm just I'm not
saying physically, I'm saying just. I'm not saying as a
quarterback saying yeah, not saying athletically. But come on, the
guy never used moisturizer.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
What's going on there?

Speaker 7 (46:32):
You go?

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Hey, great game last night for a Monday night game
between the Broncos and the Browns that you may have
had low expectations, where I think it's fair to say
we got a good one last night. As we enter
now week fourteen, my goodness, let's say what's up to
a few people on hold about the Golden at bat
and jameis Winston. Let's go to Charleston and talking about
James for a second, Jero, what's up, man?

Speaker 10 (46:55):
Hey, I got a.

Speaker 12 (46:56):
Couple of things for you.

Speaker 16 (46:57):
Take me like a minute.

Speaker 12 (46:58):
Yeah, has more career asceptions than James Wilston. James flanking
that Passams has a fifty six million dollar buyo? How
about that Ryan Day? And by the way, Norm Brooklyn
holds an NFL records that has lasted for seven decades.
Single game passing record five hundred and fifty four yards,

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set in nineteen fifty one as quarterback of the Los
Angeles Rams.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Look at that, it bummed me out that he needed
three more yards for five hund zero. Come on, little
dump off ards, We'll dump off, you know. And his
speed lacks a lot, so I think that, Well, that
clearly forces him to throw, but it'd be nice if
he had some speed to mix it up. That's what
Lamar Jackson's problem was this past weekend. Did you hear
the story where he said his mom yelled at him. Yeah,

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Lamar Jackson said he had he had some running lanes
that he should have taken instead, he was looking to
make those quick passes and throw the ball. But that's
what makes Lamar Jackson valuable. He could hold on and
run and wouldn't have to risk the interceptions like Jameis
Winston has to risk.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
You.

Speaker 2 (48:06):
I have two thoughts. Hold that thought for a second.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
I love Lamar Jackson's mom called him out and yelled
at Hold the Lamar thought for a second.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
At fact, let me let me get out the.

Speaker 1 (48:15):
Way, because now so I'm saying, so Jameis Winston has
to throw, right, Lamar Jackson doesn't have to throw that much.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
He should run more.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
As we get ready for shack Diesel Trivia, we're talking baseball,
Danny j. That meme you sent me about the Dodgers
and Jesus that had me laughing. A couple of people
hit me up with that. Yes, you see twelve dollars.
The diet's a funny meme. The Dodgers are signing Jesus
Christ to a twelve billion dollars deal for eternity, but
the payments are deferred until judgment. That I can't believe it,
and it's ridiculous. It's uh, yeah, we thought we get ahead.

Speaker 2 (48:49):
He's going to play all positions.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Yeah, he's gonna play ever he gets the golden at bat.
I love that, all right, You know what, it's time
we shack Diesel trivia.

Speaker 2 (48:57):
Come on.

Speaker 8 (48:58):
Whenever we say not to name drop, that means we're.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
About to name drop. I'll drop.

Speaker 8 (49:03):
Oh my goodness, not only our CNR friends with Tyson
and mahomes hey man, they're also buddies with a big Aristotle.

Speaker 15 (49:13):
What's up this big shot du aka Shatfou aka shot
Daddy aka the Big Aristotle.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Guess what it's Don from c our Project.

Speaker 8 (49:21):
Time for some basketball trivia.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Basketball trivia?

Speaker 8 (49:26):
What he said?

Speaker 2 (49:28):
He's the break back boards now breaking records for EPISOL Radio.

Speaker 8 (49:31):
Shack Dzel basketball trivia.

Speaker 5 (49:33):
All right, FSR Security, I'm walking our broke shack in
in the main studio.

Speaker 15 (49:38):
You guys talking about golden at baths. Hey, you like
my goal rings? You like my goal rings? Brother, I
like I like Dan Bayer's rule of two point shots
being three point shots.

Speaker 2 (49:48):
You would have dominated domin I would.

Speaker 15 (49:50):
Like your four point shot. I only I only hit
one three point shot in my whole career, not my fault,
only one shot.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
How about your ashy hands going viral last week? Why
you got to bring that up? Why are you gotta
bring that up? I'm looking for new endorsements Oil of
O Lake. All right, let's meet the contestants.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Nine time winner Rich Davis right over there, Shack ten
times shock champion Dan Byer, Hello, Shaq and uh you know.

Speaker 2 (50:17):
What anybodys jurgons? Yeah what Spotty has won this game
three times? Looking for a fourth shot victory. Ought you
were about to kick me off the game. No, I'm
just hoping you can get number four here.

Speaker 15 (50:29):
By the way, your Lakers look like doodoo last night
because the timb Wolves your Lakers too, your Lakers, and
they were because if I was on it team, we
wouldn't have lost.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Let's make an excuse for him. They were on a
back to back there you go? All right? All right?

Speaker 5 (50:42):
Uh, looking to winn seeing our stayless steel Swiggy on
our studio lines Tom and Tacoma.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
Hey Tommy, Tom, let's do this. What do you do
for a living? There? Quickly? In Tacoma, I'm a construction worker,
very cool man of America.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Constructor workers have all the now because there's so many
people looking for work done in their house.

Speaker 8 (51:02):
They can Tom.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
You could quote people in anything and they'll still want it.

Speaker 15 (51:05):
Is Tom in Tacoma? Or is he driving a Tacoma?
Or is he going He's in He's into coma all right.
The rules for Shack Diesel Trivia. The first contestant with
two correct answers is the champion. If there's a tie,
we have a tie breaker question. Your name is your buzzer,
but you do have to wait until all three possible
answers are read. If there's two wrong answers in a row,
we move on to the next question. Are you ready, let's.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
Get it all.

Speaker 15 (51:29):
Let's get this big horistetle party started. Which team won
the NBA Finals in the nineteen ninety eight ninety nine
season shortened by lockout?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
Is it a the Jazz, be the Lakers? Or see
the Spurs?

Speaker 1 (51:43):
Tom, I'll give you Rich, Rich, Come on, Tom, let's
give you a chance. That'd be the Spurs.

Speaker 2 (51:49):
Yes, you are right. Wait, Rich on the board. He
is wrong.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
No. Never. You can't stump me on one thing and
one thing only, and that's year's teams in any sport
have won a championship. Everything else you can stop me
on very all right. We moved to round two with
Rich on the board.

Speaker 15 (52:03):
How many league MVP awards did I win during my
illustrious career?

Speaker 2 (52:07):
Was it a one? B? Two's? See three?

Speaker 8 (52:12):
Tom, Tom, I gotta go with three.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
No, I should have won three Buyer for Steel? Yes,
only one? Only one. They ripped you off two oh three?
When did when?

Speaker 7 (52:30):
Did ah?

Speaker 2 (52:31):
What year to check?

Speaker 1 (52:32):
When I'm gonna look this up, I'll let you think
about it. Stevens always stole his right Damn Steve Nashaw ally.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Got a shout out in that song. I should have
got it up. Rich and Buyer both on the board
as we moved around three Pano.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
That's it. That's the one. That's the one. All right,
round three?

Speaker 15 (52:52):
What was our once quote of saying about finances. A,
I'd have even more money if Shawney didn't catch me cheating.
B look at the businesses in your neighborhood who have
no competition. Then buy a franchise to go get their
customers or See. It's not about how much money you make.
The question is are you educated enough to keep it?

Speaker 5 (53:14):
Tom got in there for the win here. Oh, actually
this would be Tommy's first time on the board. See
you're saying, question is are you educated enough to keep it?

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Yes, there you go. I did say that, But it
is true. I'd have even more money if Shawney hadn't
caught me cocheting. That is true.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
Hey, By the way, Shack's MVP season was Shack. You
remember ninety nine two thousand?

Speaker 2 (53:37):
Of course? I remember? All right? Three way tie Rich,
Buyer and Tom all on the board as we go
to round four. Of course, do in that base all right, round.

Speaker 15 (53:47):
Four, which NBA team currently has the best record in
the Western Conference. Ay, the Thunder b the Rockets. We
see the Grizzlies. Oh, all good teams right now, all
good teams.

Speaker 8 (54:00):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (54:00):
You're not gonna give it a shotgut Tom Rocket, No, Spotty,
you want to give it a thunder?

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Yeah, said with confidence. Fifteen and five. The Rockets are
fifteen and an educated guests. All right, So Rich buyer,
Tom spot all on the board. Is we go to
round five?

Speaker 1 (54:23):
I don't know that spot doesn't care about the NBA
until December fourth, and that's tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yes, exactly. Can I insert a golden batter for my
answer here? You know what that would make it more? Yeah?
Iowa Sam? Alright, Round five? Round five?

Speaker 15 (54:38):
Wack Diesel shock Diesel Here. Who was the first player
in NBA history to be unanimously voted? Who was the
first player in the NBA history to be unanimously voted?

Speaker 2 (54:49):
MVP?

Speaker 15 (54:50):
Hey, Steph Curry, b Lebron James or see me big
shock Daddy.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Tom for the win.

Speaker 8 (55:00):
Let's go with the Lebron James.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
No, oh, Rich Rich got in there, Steph Curry, Yes, answer,
It'll be a tuble tell we'll put it like a
to MVP.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
It's all good. Steph Curry twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen season.
That is Rich's tenth win in Shack de Saul. Oh, yeah, Shack.
Good seeing you, buddy. We're good seeing you guys. Tom.
Thank you for playing the game there in Tacoma.

Speaker 7 (55:27):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
Better look next time later, Shack, we'll get some lotion
on those hands. I feel like that. I feel like
you're crossing the line there, all right, litter, litter guys.

Speaker 1 (55:38):
Does anyone else remember I know Shack's gone now, damn Bayer.
I feel like you would know, because you're a man
of intelligence. I feel like I had a Shaquille O'Neal
rookie card that was part of my collection. I put
in one of those nice screwcases. He held up a
different jersey number at first, and then for the Magic.
What number did he he wear as a member of
the Orlando Magic? Do you remember he wore? I thought

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he were thirty two, so in the picture I think
on his card he held up really thirty four. I
go double jack thirty three? Yeah, so thirty three or something? Yeah,
I know he played for every color of the rainbow.
That's my favorite Shack staff. Yeah, he played for every
color of the rainbow. Yeah, he was thirty two on
the magic Yeah number thirty two. Yeah, but it is

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holding up thirty three. He's holding up thirty three or
thirty four. I just remember being like it just was
like one of those little like like a Billy Ripkins card.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
Fun fact.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
You remember that one? Oh yeah, of course, yeah, of course.
So Shack Diesel trivia. Great to see a Shack. Thank
you guys again for hanging out with us. We do
trivia Mondays and Tuesdays Tomorrow Wednesday, midweek major. I'll tell
you about it later. We're lying from the tire rack
dot Com studio and Rich. We gotta get back to

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these phone calls real quick, right quick. Let's say hi
to Jason in New Mexico. Then we'll get the date.

Speaker 2 (56:55):
Dann Bayer, what's up, Jasons? What's up?

Speaker 7 (56:59):
Man?

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Hey?

Speaker 14 (56:59):
By Oh you put in New Mexico.

Speaker 5 (57:02):
No, sorry, guys, there's two Jason's on the board, Mexico
or San Antonio.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
San Antonio. First, my wife from that area. All right,
Jason in San Antonio.

Speaker 7 (57:13):
There we go.

Speaker 16 (57:14):
I have a question about the Golden bat.

Speaker 11 (57:15):
Yeah, so they like Aaron Judge comes up in his
normal spot in the lineup, would they be able to
like golden.

Speaker 12 (57:23):
Bat him for the very next that bad? Yes, he say.

Speaker 11 (57:27):
If he gets like on base, like with a Walker hit,
would they like tender run for him and let him
hit again?

Speaker 7 (57:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (57:32):
That I think that's that's the strategy. Imagine.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Well, imagine if Aaron Judge strikes out and you're like, no,
I want a second shot Judge again.

Speaker 2 (57:40):
Golden tickets.

Speaker 5 (57:41):
So I heard that being argued earlier today Rich that
you couldn't pull a batter off the bases, So then
how would that work? I'm not sure that's one of
the things they were trying to figure out.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Great question. There's there's a few again questions in regards
to this. Sadly it won't happen, but a judge, Jason
Mexicano won't. I guess people are sticking the MUDs. You've
seen the feedback. No one's as fun as me.

Speaker 2 (58:03):
Jason. What's up another Jason, this time New Mexico. I'm open.
I'm a blinded guy. What's upbout.

Speaker 6 (58:12):
Me?

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Did he really say that? Let Jason t Yeah, you're
here with that?

Speaker 16 (58:17):
Okay, imagine this Dodger Stadium, Otani's coming up with a
Golden bat and Danny g with his Golden Boys singing
I got a Golden ticket by Willie Wonka.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
We've we've discussed that it needs fanfare. That's amazing that,
I mean, the possibilities are endless. And with that, damn byer.
What's going on?

Speaker 9 (58:40):
Addb Hey, guys, hey, some news involving the possible future
of Mike McCarthy and Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott spoke
with Yahoo Sports today, saying he wants McCarthy back next
season and emphasized that he wholeheartedly believes in McCarthy.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
As his head coach.

Speaker 9 (58:57):
So a strong show of support for Dak Prescott, who's
out for the rest of the season because of a
hamstring injury. Texans linebacker A Z's al Shire is going
to be out for the next three games for his
hit on Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence in Week thirteen. The
NFL suspended al Shire. Today he is appealing the three
game ban. Texans GM Nick Cassario ripped the NFL in

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the league's characterization of their linebackers, saying the picture being
painted by the league well, I Lo Cassario.

Speaker 2 (59:26):
I'll tell you what we take umbrages is just the
picture that's been painted about his z's, his intentions, who
he is as a person. I mean, quite frankly, it's.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
Bull harsh words, right, I agree in that listen, it
was a bad hit, but to make it seem like
he's a bad dude and a bad player in Dirty Dude,
it's the NFL.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
People are moving fast. It was a bad play. It stinks.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
But Tom Brady I don't want to see he defended it,
but yeah, did justify how things that could happen. Yeah,
let's take one quick phone call from Richard who wants
to say hello, eight seven seven ninety nine Fox, it's
a dude, right, what's up man?

Speaker 10 (01:00:01):
Hey guys, I love the show. You guys are a
lot of fun. It's great to talk to you. Okay.
In my opinion, okay, if you look at the tape,
Trevor Lawrence when he came around the corner, he put
his head forward, he saw the first down marker and
he was going for it. Quarterbacks should not be allowed.
If this is it's not a rule yet, they should

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not be allowed to slide for a first down. Because
it puts the defensive guys their hands are tight, they
can't touch him. And when he put his head forward,
that player saw him going for the first down marker.
It wasn't about his safety because the quarterback basically said
I'm going for it and then he slid at the

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first down line.

Speaker 2 (01:00:45):
Yeah, we see that a lot.

Speaker 15 (01:00:46):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
It's so tough to be a defender in those situations.
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:00:49):
I'm surprised, and you know, no one wants to the injuries,
but I'm shocked that Mahomes hasn't got hit a few
more times because there are a lot of times.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
He'll tiptoe around the sidelines.

Speaker 1 (01:00:58):
And it looks like he's going to slide, and he does.
He does all juke step. You think he's ina slide,
he doesn't. And like I said earlier, if you missed it,
Rex Ryan went on a big rant about how he
has to or they should be teaching quarterbacks to be
diving head first in those situations and be aiming to
take out defenders' legs in those situations because they're putting

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themselves in a terrible situation and it's not fair for
the defenders to think that they're going to slide. They
don't know what to do and they're caughting that awkward
in between moment.

Speaker 2 (01:01:29):
Because your head's in your head.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
If you slide like a baseball play, right like, yeah,
you're yourself exposed. What you're doing is there's only one
way for your upper body and neck and head to go,
and that's to snap back. Dude, if you take almost
like a leaning with your non throwing shoulder and just
tumble forward. I just felt his less likelihood of you
getting seriously injured. Yeah, there's got to be like another

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way to do it, because you're going to see too
many injuries moving forward, just like that. And I saw
that clip honestly ten times already. And you know, I
never noticed Trevor Lawrence stiffened up the same way Tua did.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
When he got I noticed that right away.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
I didn't even notice looked weird too, dude, Like all right, like,
clearly he got a concussion, obviously that's what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:02:13):
But clearly if you notice that right away. I didn't
see that. And I watched that hit.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
I kept watching Ausi's with the forearm hitting the forearm
slow motion. I never once I saw Trevor Lawrence's head
snap back and hit the ground. I never saw his
arm tighten up like that until just a few minutes
ago when I was watching it again. When you see
it again, watch it, it's so clear he was wrong.