December 10, 2024 • 41 mins
Covino & Rich continue their thoughts on Brett Favre "takin' a dive!" Should Gastineau just let it go? What's a grudge made out of? 'LAST ONE STANDING' makes a triumphant return! Plus, "the Joker" joked about some of his Nuggets teammates, saying they should have a pay deduction based on poor play!
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Back to Mark Gastineau and that I do want to
talk about last night's Monday night football game. These are
the Simpsons, tye in and everything, so we'll get to that.
(01:32):
But Mark Gastineau, I was Sam, I'm not gonna be
on the spot, but you said you heard it for
the first time, and what was your reaction?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
He sounds like a sad, crazy person. Yeah, I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
To confront Brett Farv, who I mean, isn't the you know,
the dude everyone wants to stick up for these days.
But to see Mark Gastoneau approach Farv and you're thinking
it's gonna be two veterans too, you know, Pro Bowl
type of guys chopping it up about football and he
goes confrontational.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh my shock, pack, take a listen. If you missed this, you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Met a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
At least I saw you right how you do it
when you fell down for him. I'm going to get
my sack back. I want to get my sack back. Dude,
you probably would hurt me. Well, I don't care. Oh
hurt me, You hurt me. You heard me?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I hear you really hurt me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You hurt me, Brett.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We got to get back to this, Brett. I'm sorry.
I'm not trying to justify Mark Astino here. I'm not.
By the way you say, how quick that Wrangler trying
to get bread out of there? He sounds like a stalker.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, but I'm trying to say, or what we have
to make clear is Angler jeans. This single season sack
record that he had clearly meant he had twenty two
sacks straight hand, ended up with twenty two.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And a half. Clearly meant a lot to the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Uh And look when you think you when your Brett
far and you're Michael Strahan, like you've won super Bowls,
you have all these other accolades. This is all the
dude had probably dealt with a lot of loss. He's like,
and I lost my record on that week ass play.
It's a weird clip, And it's weird to confront somebody
(03:18):
in that way because I was saying rich again, just
putting it in perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Football is all the guy knew. That was his whole queer,
that was his legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We've all been hurt by somebody indirectly, someone that stole
our job, stole our girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Can you imagine confronting that guy and he's like, you know,
you hurt me. That's what makes it weird, right, Like
you hurt me. He's like, what he took my job?
I did? And I just like, no, I didn't. It's
just a weird interaction, a weird thing that most normal
people wouldn't go out of their way to do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Because the thing is what you're king, he's a weirdo.
What does he want Brett Farve to say? Like you're
I'm sorry, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
How do you think how fast things happen on the
football field. Do you think if Farv was really trying
to give him that sack? Like how about he was
just couldn't even react in time, and he looked like
he just kind of fell down, Like do you think
he was really trying to gift him that sack?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, it sure look that way if you want to
hear it. But you said he would got in him anyway.
Well again, but it didn't even look like.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Farv attempted to move out of the way or spin
some spin out of the way.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So fast that you turn around Dasey Down wants to
jump in.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But it's all coming to light today because these clips
are going viral. It's from the new thirty to thirty
that debuts on the thirteenth. It's called the New York
Sack Exchange, and Mark Astenau was the single season leader
until Brett Farv took a die for Strahan.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Again, It's thirty four to twenty five Green Bay with
a ball near midfield, under three minutes to go, and
you're going to run a pass. Play by the way,
I think it was Bubba Franks blocking, And for all
of us football fans, no, Bubba Franks was a tight end.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What play?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
If you're a Green Bay going into the week, do
you say we got to get Bubba Frank's solo blocking
Michael Strahan?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like it does not happen, but.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
That is you would think, like we got to get
Bubba Franks and three other people over there to block
Michael Strahan keep him off Farv's back, but lo and
behold with three minutes left in the game, in the
final game of the regular season. That's what the Green
Bay Packers run.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And and and I'm just giving you the flip side
I could see where guests to know comes across odd.
He is gracious in the moment he's there to congratulate Straighthan.
It's just after realizing, you know, once he saw the play,
and years later of dealing with this and losing that
(05:42):
record and not being in the Hall of Fame, it
starts to sink in, like, man, they took that from me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You can't see it. You get older. He starts speculating
like he did.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Handle it at the time, if Brett Farv did take
a fall and Bubba Franks was a tight end block
talking on a as Dan Byer said an irrelevant past
play in the fourth quarter of a game, I don't
think the intention was we're.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Gonna get the best of Mark Gastino. You running back
walking straight hand.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Okay, so you don't have any sour grape Since then
we worked with people that busted your chops. You don't
have any sour grapes since they made your experience just
a little little awkward.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Let me turn on the tables on you for a second.
Rich Say you set an all time Fox Sports Radio
or just radio in general record for doing two thou
and sixty nine shows in a row, and then some
guy beat you by one show.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But he he didn't even show up for that show.
He phoned in for half a segment on his cell phone. Yeah,
and they counted it. Yeah, and they counted it as
the record.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's why I'm saying you were retired, Richard. You couldn't
go back, You couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would be mad, dude, I really would be just
to play step boy since then.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Watt also shares the lead now with twenty two and
a half with straight Han tying to Know with twenty
two secs Jared Allen justin Houston. I mean, it's it's
not this record that Gastono would still even have two days.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Of course, not our record's meant to be what meant
to be broken.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So forgive and forget and move on with your life. Yeah,
you can say all that, but you can also say, hey,
football is all this guy really had and all he
really knew. What he was known for, what he did.
Does anybody do who plays football? They have football.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But again, so my point is this easy for us
to say, like, get over it. That's this dude's life
and legacy. Now hear more from Mark Gass to know again,
you'll see it again on What's Today the tenth. You'll
see it in three days on ESPN thirty for thirty.
But here's what else he had to say about the
whole thing.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Any Betty will tell you Brett Parr took a die
and you know what she knows, he knows and everybody knows.
I didn't know what had happened. The NFL should have
stopped that and said listen, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's aw a sack. He took my record away from me.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And his legacy and his And again, like I said,
Mike didn't even mean anything when he said it. He
goes nobody even remembers that. But that's sort of the point.
People would have remembered Mark Astino. Maybe he would have
been in the NFL Hall of Fame if he had
that record up until TJ wyt he said, just tied it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, you said he was a selfish, that sounds like
the comics of a selfish player. Yeah, who really cares
about a record?
Speaker 7 (08:34):
That's the Packers fan, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I actually do agree with you, Sam, I really do.
But I'm giving you the flip side to the story
just to make it more of a balanced and fair conversation,
because I do see his side as well.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I get it he really held on to that.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But if he had, let's say, reacted poorly in the
moment when the record was set, and then later on
was like, you know what, I overreacted that, But it's
the reverse it was he was he gracious in the moment,
and then he's festered on this for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What's he supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know, they're in steroid era in baseball, there were
those that felt very sad for a guy like Roger Maris,
who really wasn't the elite guy like a Mickey Mantle was,
but he had that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Record sixty one home runs, and there are people that
remember for a while though, I go, that's the record.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I acknowledge none of those Bonds and Maguire and so
so and and you got to say there was probably
part of the Maris legacy that was like how do.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know the real record family to cheer it on.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I guess Sam said, records that made to be broken.
I get it sometimes, yeah, but you don't want it
to be handed over.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
The other thing with Maris too, was his chase of
Ruth sixty wasn't an easy one, Like he really stressed
out about those part of the because the that record
was Babe Ruth's and so you know, in a way
it was a bit of a gift and a curse
for but I think it was by a large part
embraced by it. What does I mean, Michael Strahan is
(10:05):
now on every TV screen you can possibly find.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yoah, but hold on, you're laughing right. You don't
think that's what he thinks is it is what he thinks.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I don't think he thinks that. I think that he says,
Michael Strahan is everything else. This was the one thing
that I wanted. This is the one thing that I thought, Yeah,
I like that. I like that, and that the NFL
wanted Michael Strahan because Michael Strahan was going to be
destined for these bigger and better things that they they wanted,
like it was better for them, Like maybe it was
better for Major League Baseball for Hank Aaron to have
(10:38):
the home run record than Barry Bonds, like the NFL
is saying for us, it's better that Michael Strahan has
the record for Mark Gastono, and that's what Gastono feels.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So at the time, we knew that Michael Strahan in
two thousand and one was destined to become a media personality.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I think he was. He was well liked dabbling. Yeah, okay,
I was always talk about it Live with Kelly and
Mark can swell us oh gas to know. He's an
old guy. Now I feel bad for him, man, I do.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I sympathize because he's an old guy who's so hung
up on this.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So this wasn't for all hold on whether he's Morning
America straight in put a guess it on the Today Show,
whether he's right or wrong. It's still sad to see
it is.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But by the time, by the time that he confronted
far what was that twenty seventeen, twenty twenty, what was it?
The record didn't have been broken in Eclipse several times over,
so it's like he'd already been buried in the record book.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
But the other the other portion of it is because
sacks weren't tallied, that Deacon Jones probably would have broken
all of these records and looking back on it as well,
so it is a So it's not like we looked
at the whole entire NFL, where we do that in baseball,
like we have the we have the entire stat sheet
from baseball back to the eighteen hundreds. The NFL only
started to count sacks after a certain year, So there
(11:53):
are edge rushers and pass rushers who never would have
been able to break that record because that's weren't counted
at that time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
By the way, you got to see Brett Farre's reaction
in that clip, man, that must have been so weird
from his perspective to go up to Mark ast too
like hey, and then be shot down like that in
the moment.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's so hard. It's awkward. But we've said this before.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I don't know if everyone's been there at least once,
where you bump into someone from your past and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
They're mad about something and you had no clue they were.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There's something about it that's very relatable and I can't
really pinpoint how it applies to me in my life,
but I feel like I've been the recipient.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I've been something. It's not healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I've been in a few moments where I've had weird
encounters where someone thought I may have got with like
a girl.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They were with.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Due. There was an old coworker of Kavino and I
that has a story about how they were a waiter
at a restaurant and they were convinced that like I
big time them and stiffed them on something and it
clearly would never have happened because I know how I operate,
like I would never have, you know, like, and he
(13:01):
held all this. It was like fifteen years later, benefit
of the doubt. It was one of those ye, dude,
why do you give me why you bust my you know,
White buzzed my huyvos all the time. Well, you know
when I worked at Hulahans and he told me this
whole story, and I'm like, I don't know why you
want me to do so, I jokingly, but the guy
like a gift.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Card for dinner. I'm like, are we cool now? Like
people hold weird things, dude, they really do.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And Brett Farv too, hula hands, I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
To the flip side of it. Though people hold grudges
for perfectly good reasons too. Yeah, it doesn't just have
to be a phony reason to have a grudge.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's true.
Speaker 10 (13:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So Hey, Fox Sports Radio Nation. I'm now intrigued Vetti,
Betty and Tnigue to see this thirty for thirty. Your
thoughts on the Brett Favre taking the dive for straight hand,
Mark Gastineaux living with that, with that storyline and the
sadness for all those years. He wants his sack back.
Your thoughts eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
One more question just on that portion of it or
something you said there.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Cavino, this is what worries me about this documentary now,
which I would have loved to have watched. It's like
when you see a movie trailer and all the funny
parts are the trailer, so you watch the movie and
it's a complete downer like this, Like what tops this
in that documentary like this would have I wish this
would have been almost withheld.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And then it airs and.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
We're talking about it on Friday, you know, afterwards, because it's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Relevant to today, because it's like it's something that the
sack exchange happened back then. This is something that's still
like present relevant.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Dan saying, instead of putting this as part of the trailer,
they should have just let this air episode during the documentary.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's definitely a deeper, heavier part of the document This
here is Friday, right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think we're gonna come back on Monday and we're
all gonna be like, yo, man Gaston as a wacked.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Doodle, or like, I feel bad for this dude. I
don't know. It's gonna be one of those.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's kind of like remember that brat Pack documentary that
came out with Andrew McCartney McCarthy and he's like, I
hated being labeled the brat Pack, and everyone's like, hey, dude,
you sound like a big cry baby. That was the
sentiment after watching the whole thing. I think that's what
we're gonna be talking about on Monday. But we'll see,
you know, my dad loves to talk about all the
time when we when I was growing up on Long Island,
my next door neighbor looking back, she was an attractive
(15:16):
woman that worked for the Jets in her twenties.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh so, a.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Lot of times sports cars would zip down my block,
pull up in front of the house and my dad
would get all like, oh, who's reading down the book?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Who's punked in front of my house?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You know how your parents are all these weird when
someone parks in front of your house. Yeah, And I
remember one time Mark, Gastonou and Joe Cleco get out
of the car and my dad the whole joke. My
Dad's like, oh, you want to palk up the front lawn?
Like these guys were best. They were, They were huge
in New York in the eighties. I just didn't know
he held this resentment and will learn more about it
(15:49):
clearly in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Let's go to Brooklyn and talk to Bruno.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What's up, dude, Jonathan, Good afternoon, Good evening. I think
you're on the West coast. Obviously, here's the deal. You know,
we can say what we want about Gastino as a person.
I think he's got that kind of unappealing persona. But
you know what, in terms of that record at the time,
I mean, you guys looked back. How good these guys were.
(16:15):
I mean they were phenomenal. I mean, he was Laurence
Taylor on the green Side. But here's a bigger part.
He might he might have been left out of the
Hall of Fame because of it, and you know what,
that's huge. And not only that, but there's a monetary
attachment to that if you're if you're a Hall of Famer,
it could have been more money in it for him afterlife.
But hanging on is something like that to your point.
(16:36):
It's been broken several times since. But at the time
that was a big deal and he was and he
was a big deal in the sense that he was
one of the most extreme players I've ever seen. And
I'm a Jets stand but when you watch games and
see how good he really was, he should be in
the Hall. Number one, number two, he is nuts. Number three.
He's the kind of guy that could be grading on
(16:56):
your nerves. But so is Kurt Shilling, and they're keeping
him out of the Hall. And I'm not a Red
Sox man.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's great perspective, great col man, Thank you, Bruno. I
appreciate that. That's really the nail on the head though.
Rich Like people ask him, why aren't you in the
Hall of Fame and he tries to figure out why.
He's not gonna say because I'm a nut job. He's like,
because they took my record away. That's a lot to
live with.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Did you ever watch Gaston o girls, Yes, you brought
up a few times. What was the point?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It was like former NFL star and his like hot
wife and good looking daughter.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
He was with him anymore? Oh so again, I think
he dealt with Yeah, really followed the daughters. Yeah, follow
the daughters. Wait, he didn't even get a piece of
that reality pie. No, I don't think so. And he
didn't get the sack record.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Okay, if you still have the second or third most
sacks in the season, you still have like a record
of sorts.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Why would that keep you out of the Hall of
fame even if it's not true. And that's his reasoning
as to why he's not in the Hall of fame.
That's tough to live with. Again, this is this is
his life, that's his career. Let's go to truck in Connecticut.
You're on the Cavino and Rich show. This Mark Asteno
stuff that's gone viral today is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, Ted and Ted Trucky, California.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
All right, what's up?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Heyboddy?
Speaker 11 (18:14):
I've heard about some words like whack a doodle and
that job and sad and crazy and you know that
may you know may or may not be true, right,
but there's you know, put it in perspective, a little
bit more to unpack here. You know, all pain is equal, right,
whether you're whether you're rich and powerful or poor and homeless, whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
You could be the most powerful person in the world
and you know be all bummed because you got orange
skin and daddy issues and interere or any complex. Right,
But suffering is suffering, so no matter reason, no matter why.
With all that said, you think about all the resources
and money that's put into this documentary and now it's
sports talk. Meanwhile, there's like, you know, genocide plural in
(18:53):
the world. There's subway murderers allowed, and so much more
that matters instead of this zero value topic polluting my
white noise distraction of sports talk radio while I, you know,
while I weave to the male gossip and commercial barking
while I wait for actual sports news.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You seem like a fun guy to hang with.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, you know, I was on your side until the
end of that conversation that quickly took a turn.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, it took like a hard left. Did he write
that down?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
You think probably talk about theocide.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Up next genocide and World War is going on in
the world.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So he's better when he was trucking in Connecticut. Yeah,
what happened? What happened?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I met at the beach. The next caller is in Connecticut, Greg,
in Connecticut, Greg, you're on what's up?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Buddy man?
Speaker 8 (19:44):
That's a tough call to follow.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Not really anything you say is going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Better than that. Hey.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Uh so you guys had me thinking, like, as far
as the sack record, I don't know where it ranks,
but I am like, I'm if Demaggio's record were broken
with someone I don't know laying a bunch and a
third basement slowly going to it just so it's not
an error, and that's how the wreck, I would be livid.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know what, Thank you, Greg, because there you are
filling in the blank, because I was trying to think
of an equal scenario in another sport. And that's a
great example. If someone had the fifty six game hitting
streak and they were on they were stuck on fifty six,
are think gonna beat Demaggio? The guy lays a bunt
down the third base line and the third baseman takes
a real slow you know, like like a lazy jog
(20:37):
up to it and Enfield hit like, yeah when you
when you watch it back, it was a weak way
to get the record down, playing the significance of the sacrafice.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Along the way.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
What about all the work done to get up to
that point, right right? So again, yeah, you see a
guy like man get over it. But in reality I
think of the reality, I admit and acknowledged. The first
reaction to that is.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Like, get over it, dude, But you're telling this guy
to get over something that meant the world to him.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I'm not taking back how I feel, but I'm a
little I was a little I was a little rough
on Gus to.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Know, but I mean just a weird approach to Brett.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Farv to rub me a weird way, because I think
we've all been there. Like you said, it wasn't weird.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's just awkward, Rich, right, It's a really awkward situation.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
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Wow, talk about destinations. I know.
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Let's go to Carson City, Carson City? That is Scott,
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Scott, Yeah, I can't deal with this.
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I know me too. All right, Patrick and Phoenix? What's up?
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We're talking quickly?
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We were exciting, but his phone sounds almost as bad.
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First category, alright, alright, first category, pig skin Paradise. You
have five seconds to name an NFL team who is
top twelve for the most Super Bowl appearances. Top twelve
most Super Bowl appearances Coveno, you're up first.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
All Patrick is everyone bring dad? What are you doing? Patrick?
You gotta wait until I call your name? Okaye?
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Alright?
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We like you. All right. I'll start off with Steelers,
Steelers number four with eight all right, Rich, New England, Patriots,
Patriots number one, eleven, buyer.
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We're gonna do Patrick a solid Cowboys for five.
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All right, Patrick, Now you can say it. I'll nobody
saw it coming. All right, Covino back to you.
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Let's go with.
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The Eagles, Eagles nonymalist nor Rich Uh, the Denver Broncos,
Bronco eight appearances.
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Buyer Giants, Giants, five appearances, Patrick, Cardinals. So it was
so excited, but not big dreaming bro Rich Washington Redskins
Uh number oh yeah, five five appearances, Buyer Buffalo Bills,
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Bills nonimalist, Rich wins around.
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So dB the the thresholders five or more more. I
had the Bills written down my next one because I thought.
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That was like Raiders. The Chiefs. Raiders were on there, Chiefs, Dolphins, Packy, Packers,
and Rams.
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Will take the top seventeen and Patrick and Phoenix.
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You're up first.
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Go Chris Johnson, Yes, number seven, buyer Eric Dickerson, number one.
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Rich Hey Twitter World, oh J Simpson.
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Jay Simpson, number Covino, Barry Pie, Barry Sanders number Yes,
number number four, Patrick.
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Franco'harrison, Go Harris in the top seventeen.
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Buyer Adrian Peterson, Adrian Peterson number two, Yes, Sir Rich.
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Little mile high salute. Terrell Davis, Terrell Davis number six,
Walter Payton, Walter Payton, number sixteen.
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Back to buyer Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry number five, Rich.
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Three two, Jamal Anderson. Jamal Anderson is on the list
cut off. Wow, what a poll? Con Ladany and Tomlinson,
La Dayton not on the.
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Just under Yeah, that's a good guest though, fire it's
Priest Holmes on the list.
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He is not. That means Rich one head today.
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Wow.
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Emitt Smith and Alvin Kamara.
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I would come to my uh No, no, Evan Smith.
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Aaron Fox, that's Earl Campbell. Okay, well let's see I'm
in green. Ricky Williams Ricky Williams, Shawn, Alexander, Yankee Barber.
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Oh, by the way, what you earned that one man?
You pulled some man. That is Rich's seventh win. Nice
and Patrick and Phoenix. We appreciate you playing the game
with it. Thanks buddy, dB, Sean Alexander, you see. Thank
you buddy, play again next time. Appreciate shit your energy.
Remember we usually do trivia on Tuesday, Mondays and Tuesdays
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Cavino and Rich.
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Let's go to Dan Byer for an update with dB.
What's up, guys.
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While the Nationals won the draft lottery, they'll hold the
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Well Scotti Scheffler was named the twenty twenty four PGA
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head coach at the University of North Carolina, but the
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Eagles should be a good one on Sunday, but it's
not likely to include George Pickens ce Steelers wide receiver
doubtful according to Mike Tomlin because of his hamstring string.
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Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, and it's almost
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so many fun things that I want to get to.
You might have to be on over promise this week.
I feel like I want to talk about this Jokic story.
Just as the days past, it's getting a little older. Okay,
sounds good, but uh, you know, Joe Burrow's house was
also broken into the same.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Weird they're saying, like mob related stuff. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Also he joins that really terrible list with Patrick Mahomes
and Travis Kelsey, all these NFL players. When they travel away,
people know they're not home. They're an easy target.
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Who did it? Probably Oz, Yes, yea, the penguin. The penguin.
All right, we gotta go take a please tell me
you finish.
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And I love the finale. Everyone else didn't. I thought
it was great. I thought it was great, and I'll
tell you why doing the break you vic all right, hey, listen,
Mark Covin on Wretch. We got this really fun Jokic
story and it has to do with him going old
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You watch uh Frosty yet this season?
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No?
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I watched that new Lindsay Lowen movie on that hal
Speed birthday. All the whole secret what is it called?
I did? It was all right.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I watch it with my wife last night. Our little
Secret Lindsay Lowen a really cheesy Christmas movie that's actually
kind of tolerable on Netflix. I mean, isn't Isn't that
the whole point of the Christmas season? Cheesy movies, right?
I mean, summer cheesier than others. You're always watching those
Hallmark ones. No thanks, but I do like me some
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Yokch talking Yokic. He said, after the Nuggets took a whooping,
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he said, wake up call. In my country, you get
paid less.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
After a stretch like this, and the reality is you
go to other places.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know what I say to that, don't be ridiculous,
I say, if he does, he dies, I say, listen,
there is something to be said.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I know it rubbed people the wrong way, but you'll
get scored.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Plus career high fifty six and finished the game with
just two assist and essentially tried to do this by himself.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
They lost to the worst team in the NBA was
one of the rubs there.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I mean they were shorthanded with injuries there was a
couple of days ago. But he did afterwards say, in
my country where I'm coming from, after this kind of stretch,
you're gonna get a paycheck that's a little bit less
than you are worth. So maybe that's the way we
need to do it. Maybe a little motivation that way. Yeah,
clearly everybody like wan So too. I'm motivated by money.
(36:58):
And you see a lot of these people let up
in the NFL. They say, career decisions, right, They let
up because they're getting their money or they're trying to
get their money. There's a lot of players, especially in
the NBA. We talked about it recently, Rich like, why
is the NBA broken? Why are the ratings down twenty
eight percent? Because a lot of these guys got the
(37:19):
bag and they're hot dogging it. DoD e Ward, remember
what was the word entitled, Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, entitled the entitlement of somebody's players.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Could you imagine if you got paid per point rebound assist.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, you'd be playing a lot harder. For sure, you'd
be diving on the floor.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Ya when you talk about some of these incentives, I love.
I was talking to one of my buddies the other
day about how fantasy sports players hate the end of
regular seasons because you never know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's why they do the playoffs earlier, because guys rest
and the final week. I love when they come at
that list of who's going to hit incentives, and all
of a sudden you watch guys like, wait, this guy
needs wore catches for sixty two yards.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You damn well know that guy's gonna be like, can't
mean the ball. I love incentive based contracts.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I love when a pitcher is told you hit two
hundred innings, you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Double your base salary.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think we'd see a lot more production just in
life if that's the way it worked now. I hate
Kevino when people say, well, if all the owners decided
to pay everyone least, first of all, it's collusion, right,
But if they decided that these guys you know, wouldn't
be paid so much. I think incentive based contracts would
(38:34):
be better for everyone except the players, right, But if
the player's delivered, those incentives would be huge. What if
this Max free deal with the Yankees, what if his
salary swayed like a five million dollar degree based on
innings pitched Whip Era To me, that's wildly awesome. I'd
(38:56):
say that would be fair and would make more sense.
But it's it's hard to put the toothpaste back.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
In the tube.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
As they say, you can't move in reverse. When you're
pampering the hell out of these dudes and you're giving
Jan Soto seven hundred and sixty five million dollars average,
you can't just all of a sudden, like now, change
how we're paying people. That's where owners messed up. You
gave them way too much. And I understand that these
players are making money for your company.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
We get all that.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm just saying, there should have been ways to incentivize
a stronger performance. Now you're getting athletes hot dog in
it and lackluster performances, and you get Jokics coming from
an old school, different place where yo, guys, you're not
playing as hard as you could. We just got embarrassed
by the worst team in the NBA. Hey, I don't
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blame him for speaking out like that because he's the
only guy playing a win.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
He scored fifty six points.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Let me tell you, there's nothing more frustrating in life
when you're pulling all the way and no one else
is helping out. You know that's what he's doing. You
know who would love this more than anything? And why'd
you look at Danny means spot when you said that.
I'm just saying no. I think everybody could relate to
that where it's like, hey man, I'm the one working here.
What do you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're slacking?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, whatever that whatever that is, Yeah, class project when
you're the kid that did all the work right exactly.
Let's say want Soto the average Let's say it's around
fifty million a year. Again, you can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube. But what if it was like,
all right, one, mister Soto, you're gonna make forty million
dollars a year if you bet over to eighty five
(40:29):
at five mil, if you hit forty more home runs
at five mil, over one hundred rbi at five mil,
it could be worth more than fifty. Yeah, but you
started forty yo. Rodon Max freed all your pictures. Hey,
if your eer is three or under, I mean at
five minutes to sports. This is how you motivate people man,
not only in sports, but in real life. If we
(40:52):
have those sort of incentives, my goodness, you don't think
you'd see a better work effort here at the studio,
you know, at the restaurant, at the office, the factory.
You'd be seeing people really trying to push to get
ahead because now they're in control of their destiny and
their money.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's like like what a mission based workers? You know,
they're always pushing a little harder. What about other people?
What if you told linebackers? What if you told Fred Warner?
What if you told Max Crosby, What if you told
either Bosa, Hey, for every strip of the ball, for
every turnover, you cause three million dollars two million dollars. Hey,
(41:27):
every time you're running back that fumbles the ball and
it's turned over to the other team, if you don't
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It's like searching FSR. That's up. I don't know who
he was more mad?
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You about Wan Soto, Mark Gaston, all about Brett Farv
or you see Michael Parsons walking off the field last night,
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Back to Mark Gastineau and that I do want to
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the Simpsons, tye in and everything, so we'll get to that.
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But Mark Gastineau, I was Sam, I'm not gonna be
on the spot, but you said you heard it for
the first time, and what was your reaction?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
He sounds like a sad, crazy person. Yeah, I agree
with you.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
To confront Brett Farv, who I mean, isn't the you know,
the dude everyone wants to stick up for these days.
But to see Mark Gastoneau approach Farv and you're thinking
it's gonna be two veterans too, you know, Pro Bowl
type of guys chopping it up about football and he
goes confrontational.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
Oh my shock, pack, take a listen. If you missed this, you.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Met a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
At least I saw you right how you do it
when you fell down for him. I'm going to get
my sack back. I want to get my sack back. Dude,
you probably would hurt me. Well, I don't care. Oh
hurt me, You hurt me. You heard me?
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah, I hear you really hurt me.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
You hurt me, Brett.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
We got to get back to this, Brett. I'm sorry.
I'm not trying to justify Mark Astino here. I'm not.
By the way you say, how quick that Wrangler trying
to get bread out of there? He sounds like a stalker.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, but I'm trying to say, or what we have
to make clear is Angler jeans. This single season sack
record that he had clearly meant he had twenty two
sacks straight hand, ended up with twenty two.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
And a half. Clearly meant a lot to the guy.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Uh And look when you think you when your Brett
far and you're Michael Strahan, like you've won super Bowls,
you have all these other accolades. This is all the
dude had probably dealt with a lot of loss. He's like,
and I lost my record on that week ass play.
It's a weird clip, And it's weird to confront somebody
(03:18):
in that way because I was saying rich again, just
putting it in perspective.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Football is all the guy knew. That was his whole queer,
that was his legacy.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
We've all been hurt by somebody indirectly, someone that stole
our job, stole our girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Can you imagine confronting that guy and he's like, you know,
you hurt me. That's what makes it weird, right, Like
you hurt me. He's like, what he took my job?
I did? And I just like, no, I didn't. It's
just a weird interaction, a weird thing that most normal
people wouldn't go out of their way to do.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Because the thing is what you're king, he's a weirdo.
What does he want Brett Farve to say? Like you're
I'm sorry, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (03:58):
How do you think how fast things happen on the
football field. Do you think if Farv was really trying
to give him that sack? Like how about he was
just couldn't even react in time, and he looked like
he just kind of fell down, Like do you think
he was really trying to gift him that sack?
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Well, it sure look that way if you want to
hear it. But you said he would got in him anyway.
Well again, but it didn't even look like.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
Farv attempted to move out of the way or spin
some spin out of the way.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
So fast that you turn around Dasey Down wants to
jump in.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
But it's all coming to light today because these clips
are going viral. It's from the new thirty to thirty
that debuts on the thirteenth. It's called the New York
Sack Exchange, and Mark Astenau was the single season leader
until Brett Farv took a die for Strahan.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
Again, It's thirty four to twenty five Green Bay with
a ball near midfield, under three minutes to go, and
you're going to run a pass. Play by the way,
I think it was Bubba Franks blocking, And for all
of us football fans, no, Bubba Franks was a tight end.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
What play?
Speaker 7 (04:58):
If you're a Green Bay going into the week, do
you say we got to get Bubba Frank's solo blocking
Michael Strahan?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Like it does not happen, but.
Speaker 7 (05:07):
That is you would think, like we got to get
Bubba Franks and three other people over there to block
Michael Strahan keep him off Farv's back, but lo and
behold with three minutes left in the game, in the
final game of the regular season. That's what the Green
Bay Packers run.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
And and and I'm just giving you the flip side
I could see where guests to know comes across odd.
He is gracious in the moment he's there to congratulate Straighthan.
It's just after realizing, you know, once he saw the play,
and years later of dealing with this and losing that
(05:42):
record and not being in the Hall of Fame, it
starts to sink in, like, man, they took that from me.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
You can't see it. You get older. He starts speculating
like he did.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Handle it at the time, if Brett Farv did take
a fall and Bubba Franks was a tight end block
talking on a as Dan Byer said an irrelevant past
play in the fourth quarter of a game, I don't
think the intention was we're.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Gonna get the best of Mark Gastino. You running back
walking straight hand.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Okay, so you don't have any sour grape Since then
we worked with people that busted your chops. You don't
have any sour grapes since they made your experience just
a little little awkward.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
Let me turn on the tables on you for a second.
Rich Say you set an all time Fox Sports Radio
or just radio in general record for doing two thou
and sixty nine shows in a row, and then some
guy beat you by one show.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
But he he didn't even show up for that show.
He phoned in for half a segment on his cell phone. Yeah,
and they counted it. Yeah, and they counted it as
the record.
Speaker 8 (06:45):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
That's why I'm saying you were retired, Richard. You couldn't
go back, You couldn't do anything about it.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I would be mad, dude, I really would be just
to play step boy since then.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
TJ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Watt also shares the lead now with twenty two and
a half with straight Han tying to Know with twenty
two secs Jared Allen justin Houston. I mean, it's it's
not this record that Gastono would still even have two days.
Speaker 5 (07:10):
Of course, not our record's meant to be what meant
to be broken.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
So forgive and forget and move on with your life. Yeah,
you can say all that, but you can also say, hey,
football is all this guy really had and all he
really knew. What he was known for, what he did.
Does anybody do who plays football? They have football.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
But again, so my point is this easy for us
to say, like, get over it. That's this dude's life
and legacy. Now hear more from Mark Gass to know again,
you'll see it again on What's Today the tenth. You'll
see it in three days on ESPN thirty for thirty.
But here's what else he had to say about the
whole thing.
Speaker 9 (07:43):
Any Betty will tell you Brett Parr took a die
and you know what she knows, he knows and everybody knows.
I didn't know what had happened. The NFL should have
stopped that and said listen, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
that's aw a sack. He took my record away from me.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
And his legacy and his And again, like I said,
Mike didn't even mean anything when he said it. He
goes nobody even remembers that. But that's sort of the point.
People would have remembered Mark Astino. Maybe he would have
been in the NFL Hall of Fame if he had
that record up until TJ wyt he said, just tied it.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Well, you said he was a selfish, that sounds like
the comics of a selfish player. Yeah, who really cares
about a record?
Speaker 7 (08:34):
That's the Packers fan, Iowa, Sam.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I actually do agree with you, Sam, I really do.
But I'm giving you the flip side to the story
just to make it more of a balanced and fair conversation,
because I do see his side as well.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I get it he really held on to that.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
But if he had, let's say, reacted poorly in the
moment when the record was set, and then later on
was like, you know what, I overreacted that, But it's
the reverse it was he was he gracious in the moment,
and then he's festered on this for twenty years.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
What's he supposed to do?
Speaker 2 (09:05):
You know, they're in steroid era in baseball, there were
those that felt very sad for a guy like Roger Maris,
who really wasn't the elite guy like a Mickey Mantle was,
but he had that.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Record sixty one home runs, and there are people that
remember for a while though, I go, that's the record.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
I acknowledge none of those Bonds and Maguire and so
so and and you got to say there was probably
part of the Maris legacy that was like how do.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You know the real record family to cheer it on.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I guess Sam said, records that made to be broken.
I get it sometimes, yeah, but you don't want it
to be handed over.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
Sure.
Speaker 7 (09:43):
The other thing with Maris too, was his chase of
Ruth sixty wasn't an easy one, Like he really stressed
out about those part of the because the that record
was Babe Ruth's and so you know, in a way
it was a bit of a gift and a curse
for but I think it was by a large part
embraced by it. What does I mean, Michael Strahan is
(10:05):
now on every TV screen you can possibly find.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah, yoah, but hold on, you're laughing right. You don't
think that's what he thinks is it is what he thinks.
Speaker 7 (10:16):
I don't think he thinks that. I think that he says,
Michael Strahan is everything else. This was the one thing
that I wanted. This is the one thing that I thought, Yeah,
I like that. I like that, and that the NFL
wanted Michael Strahan because Michael Strahan was going to be
destined for these bigger and better things that they they wanted,
like it was better for them, Like maybe it was
better for Major League Baseball for Hank Aaron to have
(10:38):
the home run record than Barry Bonds, like the NFL
is saying for us, it's better that Michael Strahan has
the record for Mark Gastono, and that's what Gastono feels.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
So at the time, we knew that Michael Strahan in
two thousand and one was destined to become a media personality.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
I think he was. He was well liked dabbling. Yeah, okay,
I was always talk about it Live with Kelly and
Mark can swell us oh gas to know. He's an
old guy. Now I feel bad for him, man, I do.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I sympathize because he's an old guy who's so hung
up on this.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That's sad.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So this wasn't for all hold on whether he's Morning
America straight in put a guess it on the Today Show,
whether he's right or wrong. It's still sad to see
it is.
Speaker 5 (11:19):
But by the time, by the time that he confronted
far what was that twenty seventeen, twenty twenty, what was it?
The record didn't have been broken in Eclipse several times over,
so it's like he'd already been buried in the record book.
Speaker 7 (11:32):
But the other the other portion of it is because
sacks weren't tallied, that Deacon Jones probably would have broken
all of these records and looking back on it as well,
so it is a So it's not like we looked
at the whole entire NFL, where we do that in baseball,
like we have the we have the entire stat sheet
from baseball back to the eighteen hundreds. The NFL only
started to count sacks after a certain year, So there
(11:53):
are edge rushers and pass rushers who never would have
been able to break that record because that's weren't counted
at that time.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
By the way, you got to see Brett Farre's reaction
in that clip, man, that must have been so weird
from his perspective to go up to Mark ast too
like hey, and then be shot down like that in
the moment.
Speaker 1 (12:12):
That's so hard. It's awkward. But we've said this before.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I don't know if everyone's been there at least once,
where you bump into someone from your past and.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
They're mad about something and you had no clue they were.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
There's something about it that's very relatable and I can't
really pinpoint how it applies to me in my life,
but I feel like I've been the recipient.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
I've been something. It's not healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
I've been in a few moments where I've had weird
encounters where someone thought I may have got with like
a girl.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
They were with.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Due. There was an old coworker of Kavino and I
that has a story about how they were a waiter
at a restaurant and they were convinced that like I
big time them and stiffed them on something and it
clearly would never have happened because I know how I operate,
like I would never have, you know, like, and he
(13:01):
held all this. It was like fifteen years later, benefit
of the doubt. It was one of those ye, dude,
why do you give me why you bust my you know,
White buzzed my huyvos all the time. Well, you know
when I worked at Hulahans and he told me this
whole story, and I'm like, I don't know why you
want me to do so, I jokingly, but the guy
like a gift.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Card for dinner. I'm like, are we cool now? Like
people hold weird things, dude, they really do.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
And Brett Farv too, hula hands, I mean, just.
Speaker 6 (13:29):
To the flip side of it. Though people hold grudges
for perfectly good reasons too. Yeah, it doesn't just have
to be a phony reason to have a grudge.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
That's true.
Speaker 10 (13:38):
Man.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So Hey, Fox Sports Radio Nation. I'm now intrigued Vetti,
Betty and Tnigue to see this thirty for thirty. Your
thoughts on the Brett Favre taking the dive for straight hand,
Mark Gastineaux living with that, with that storyline and the
sadness for all those years. He wants his sack back.
Your thoughts eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
One more question just on that portion of it or
something you said there.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
Cavino, this is what worries me about this documentary now,
which I would have loved to have watched. It's like
when you see a movie trailer and all the funny
parts are the trailer, so you watch the movie and
it's a complete downer like this, Like what tops this
in that documentary like this would have I wish this
would have been almost withheld.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
And then it airs and.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
We're talking about it on Friday, you know, afterwards, because it's.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Relevant to today, because it's like it's something that the
sack exchange happened back then. This is something that's still
like present relevant.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Dan saying, instead of putting this as part of the trailer,
they should have just let this air episode during the documentary.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
It's definitely a deeper, heavier part of the document This
here is Friday, right.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
I think we're gonna come back on Monday and we're
all gonna be like, yo, man Gaston as a wacked.
Speaker 1 (14:48):
Doodle, or like, I feel bad for this dude. I
don't know. It's gonna be one of those.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
It's kind of like remember that brat Pack documentary that
came out with Andrew McCartney McCarthy and he's like, I
hated being labeled the brat Pack, and everyone's like, hey, dude,
you sound like a big cry baby. That was the
sentiment after watching the whole thing. I think that's what
we're gonna be talking about on Monday. But we'll see,
you know, my dad loves to talk about all the
time when we when I was growing up on Long Island,
my next door neighbor looking back, she was an attractive
(15:16):
woman that worked for the Jets in her twenties.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Oh so, a.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
Lot of times sports cars would zip down my block,
pull up in front of the house and my dad
would get all like, oh, who's reading down the book?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Who's punked in front of my house?
Speaker 2 (15:28):
You know how your parents are all these weird when
someone parks in front of your house. Yeah, And I
remember one time Mark, Gastonou and Joe Cleco get out
of the car and my dad the whole joke. My
Dad's like, oh, you want to palk up the front lawn?
Like these guys were best. They were, They were huge
in New York in the eighties. I just didn't know
he held this resentment and will learn more about it
(15:49):
clearly in the documentary.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Let's go to Brooklyn and talk to Bruno.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
What's up, dude, Jonathan, Good afternoon, Good evening. I think
you're on the West coast. Obviously, here's the deal. You know,
we can say what we want about Gastino as a person.
I think he's got that kind of unappealing persona. But
you know what, in terms of that record at the time,
I mean, you guys looked back. How good these guys were.
(16:15):
I mean they were phenomenal. I mean, he was Laurence
Taylor on the green Side. But here's a bigger part.
He might he might have been left out of the
Hall of Fame because of it, and you know what,
that's huge. And not only that, but there's a monetary
attachment to that if you're if you're a Hall of Famer,
it could have been more money in it for him afterlife.
But hanging on is something like that to your point.
(16:36):
It's been broken several times since. But at the time
that was a big deal and he was and he
was a big deal in the sense that he was
one of the most extreme players I've ever seen. And
I'm a Jets stand but when you watch games and
see how good he really was, he should be in
the Hall. Number one, number two, he is nuts. Number three.
He's the kind of guy that could be grading on
(16:56):
your nerves. But so is Kurt Shilling, and they're keeping
him out of the Hall. And I'm not a Red
Sox man.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
That's great perspective, great col man, Thank you, Bruno. I
appreciate that. That's really the nail on the head though.
Rich Like people ask him, why aren't you in the
Hall of Fame and he tries to figure out why.
He's not gonna say because I'm a nut job. He's like,
because they took my record away. That's a lot to
live with.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Did you ever watch Gaston o girls, Yes, you brought
up a few times. What was the point?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
It was like former NFL star and his like hot
wife and good looking daughter.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
He was with him anymore? Oh so again, I think
he dealt with Yeah, really followed the daughters. Yeah, follow
the daughters. Wait, he didn't even get a piece of
that reality pie. No, I don't think so. And he
didn't get the sack record.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Okay, if you still have the second or third most
sacks in the season, you still have like a record
of sorts.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Why would that keep you out of the Hall of
fame even if it's not true. And that's his reasoning
as to why he's not in the Hall of fame.
That's tough to live with. Again, this is this is
his life, that's his career. Let's go to truck in Connecticut.
You're on the Cavino and Rich show. This Mark Asteno
stuff that's gone viral today is kind of interesting.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh, Ted and Ted Trucky, California.
Speaker 11 (18:10):
All right, what's up?
Speaker 3 (18:11):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (18:12):
Heyboddy?
Speaker 11 (18:14):
I've heard about some words like whack a doodle and
that job and sad and crazy and you know that
may you know may or may not be true, right,
but there's you know, put it in perspective, a little
bit more to unpack here. You know, all pain is equal, right,
whether you're whether you're rich and powerful or poor and homeless, whatever.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
I mean.
Speaker 11 (18:30):
You could be the most powerful person in the world
and you know be all bummed because you got orange
skin and daddy issues and interere or any complex. Right,
But suffering is suffering, so no matter reason, no matter why.
With all that said, you think about all the resources
and money that's put into this documentary and now it's
sports talk. Meanwhile, there's like, you know, genocide plural in
(18:53):
the world. There's subway murderers allowed, and so much more
that matters instead of this zero value topic polluting my
white noise distraction of sports talk radio while I, you know,
while I weave to the male gossip and commercial barking
while I wait for actual sports news.
Speaker 1 (19:11):
You seem like a fun guy to hang with.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, you know, I was on your side until the
end of that conversation that quickly took a turn.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Yeah, it took like a hard left. Did he write
that down?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
You think probably talk about theocide.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Up next genocide and World War is going on in
the world.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
So he's better when he was trucking in Connecticut. Yeah,
what happened? What happened?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I met at the beach. The next caller is in Connecticut, Greg,
in Connecticut, Greg, you're on what's up?
Speaker 1 (19:43):
Buddy man?
Speaker 8 (19:44):
That's a tough call to follow.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Not really anything you say is going to be.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
Better than that. Hey.
Speaker 8 (19:53):
Uh so you guys had me thinking, like, as far
as the sack record, I don't know where it ranks,
but I am like, I'm if Demaggio's record were broken
with someone I don't know laying a bunch and a
third basement slowly going to it just so it's not
an error, and that's how the wreck, I would be livid.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
You know what, Thank you, Greg, because there you are
filling in the blank, because I was trying to think
of an equal scenario in another sport. And that's a
great example. If someone had the fifty six game hitting
streak and they were on they were stuck on fifty six,
are think gonna beat Demaggio? The guy lays a bunt
down the third base line and the third baseman takes
a real slow you know, like like a lazy jog
(20:37):
up to it and Enfield hit like, yeah when you
when you watch it back, it was a weak way
to get the record down, playing the significance of the sacrafice.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Along the way.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
What about all the work done to get up to
that point, right right? So again, yeah, you see a
guy like man get over it. But in reality I
think of the reality, I admit and acknowledged. The first
reaction to that is.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Like, get over it, dude, But you're telling this guy
to get over something that meant the world to him.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Yeah, I listen.
Speaker 2 (21:05):
I'm not taking back how I feel, but I'm a
little I was a little I was a little rough
on Gus to.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
Know, but I mean just a weird approach to Brett.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Farv to rub me a weird way, because I think
we've all been there. Like you said, it wasn't weird.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's just awkward, Rich, right, It's a really awkward situation.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
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(27:51):
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Speaker 1 (29:52):
Emitt Smith and Alvin Kamara.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
I would come to my uh No, no, Evan Smith.
Speaker 1 (29:59):
Aaron Fox, that's Earl Campbell. Okay, well let's see I'm
in green. Ricky Williams Ricky Williams, Shawn, Alexander, Yankee Barber.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Oh, by the way, what you earned that one man?
You pulled some man. That is Rich's seventh win. Nice
and Patrick and Phoenix. We appreciate you playing the game
with it. Thanks buddy, dB, Sean Alexander, you see. Thank
you buddy, play again next time. Appreciate shit your energy.
Remember we usually do trivia on Tuesday, Mondays and Tuesdays
(30:32):
here on the show, So thank you for playing along,
Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
Let's go to Dan Byer for an update with dB.
What's up, guys.
Speaker 7 (30:41):
The big news major League Baseball is that Max free
Is signed an eight year deal with two hundred and
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Freed heading to the Bronx. The Toronto Blue Jays acquired
second basement Andre Samenez in a trade with the Cleveland Guardians.
While the Nationals won the draft lottery, they'll hold the
(31:02):
first overall pick in the twenty twenty five Major League
Baseball Draft. Class of twenty twenty five. Top basketball prospect
aj Debonsta's committed to playing oops at BYU Tonight, NBA
Cup Quarterfinals take place, Bucks taking on the Magic Thunder
entertaining Dallas. The Miami Heater listening to offers for Jimmy Butler,
while Kawhi Leonard returned to practice today as he has
(31:23):
yet to play in a game this season because of
his knee injury. Tiger Woods and his son Charlie have
committed to playing in the Father Son PNC Championship next week.
Well Scotti Scheffler was named the twenty twenty four PGA
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(31:43):
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Eagles should be a good one on Sunday, but it's
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Speaker 1 (31:56):
Guys, back to you, Thank you, d B.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
Cavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, and it's almost
like a choose your own adventure game. Rich, we have
so many fun things that I want to get to.
You might have to be on over promise this week.
I feel like I want to talk about this Jokic story.
Just as the days past, it's getting a little older. Okay,
sounds good, but uh, you know, Joe Burrow's house was
also broken into the same.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
Weird they're saying, like mob related stuff. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Also he joins that really terrible list with Patrick Mahomes
and Travis Kelsey, all these NFL players. When they travel away,
people know they're not home. They're an easy target.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
Who did it? Probably Oz, Yes, yea, the penguin. The penguin.
All right, we gotta go take a please tell me
you finish.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
And I love the finale. Everyone else didn't. I thought
it was great. I thought it was great, and I'll
tell you why doing the break you vic all right, hey, listen,
Mark Covin on Wretch. We got this really fun Jokic
story and it has to do with him going old
school and and wanting to bring some culture is foreign
land to the United States, and I love it. We'll
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Speaker 1 (34:46):
You watch uh Frosty yet this season?
Speaker 3 (34:49):
No?
Speaker 1 (34:50):
I watched that new Lindsay Lowen movie on that hal
Speed birthday. All the whole secret what is it called?
I did? It was all right.
Speaker 2 (34:56):
I watch it with my wife last night. Our little
Secret Lindsay Lowen a really cheesy Christmas movie that's actually
kind of tolerable on Netflix. I mean, isn't Isn't that
the whole point of the Christmas season? Cheesy movies, right?
I mean, summer cheesier than others. You're always watching those
Hallmark ones. No thanks, but I do like me some
old school Frosty. Happy Holidays from your friends here on
(35:17):
the Covino and Rich Show, Steve Covino, Rich Davis, Danny
g sam Byer Spotty putting up new Mike Tyson videos.
By the way, if you missed our Mike Tyson interview
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about the future, We talked about as new edibles, maybe
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(35:39):
Radio podcast, search Covino and Rich and a Fox Sports
Radio YouTube page, or like I said, new clips up
at Covino and at Fox Sports Radio. You know, this
story is like a day old, but I wanted to
touch on it because I feel like it's I feel
like it's right up our alley. All right, well, we're
bringing it live Knee Tire Rack dot Com Studio Talking
Yokch talking Yokic. He said, after the Nuggets took a whooping,
(36:05):
he said, wake up call. In my country, you get
paid less.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
After a stretch like this, and the reality is you
go to other places.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
You know what I say to that, don't be ridiculous,
I say, if he does, he dies, I say, listen,
there is something to be said.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
I know it rubbed people the wrong way, but you'll
get scored.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
Plus career high fifty six and finished the game with
just two assist and essentially tried to do this by himself.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
They lost to the worst team in the NBA was
one of the rubs there.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
I mean they were shorthanded with injuries there was a
couple of days ago. But he did afterwards say, in
my country where I'm coming from, after this kind of stretch,
you're gonna get a paycheck that's a little bit less
than you are worth. So maybe that's the way we
need to do it. Maybe a little motivation that way. Yeah,
clearly everybody like wan So too. I'm motivated by money.
(36:58):
And you see a lot of these people let up
in the NFL. They say, career decisions, right, They let
up because they're getting their money or they're trying to
get their money. There's a lot of players, especially in
the NBA. We talked about it recently, Rich like, why
is the NBA broken? Why are the ratings down twenty
eight percent? Because a lot of these guys got the
(37:19):
bag and they're hot dogging it. DoD e Ward, remember
what was the word entitled, Oh.
Speaker 1 (37:24):
Yeah, entitled the entitlement of somebody's players.
Speaker 6 (37:26):
Could you imagine if you got paid per point rebound assist.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Yeah, you'd be playing a lot harder. For sure, you'd
be diving on the floor.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Ya when you talk about some of these incentives, I love.
I was talking to one of my buddies the other
day about how fantasy sports players hate the end of
regular seasons because you never know.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know.
Speaker 2 (37:47):
That's why they do the playoffs earlier, because guys rest
and the final week. I love when they come at
that list of who's going to hit incentives, and all
of a sudden you watch guys like, wait, this guy
needs wore catches for sixty two yards.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
You damn well know that guy's gonna be like, can't
mean the ball. I love incentive based contracts.
Speaker 2 (38:07):
I love when a pitcher is told you hit two
hundred innings, you're gonna.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Double your base salary.
Speaker 2 (38:13):
I think we'd see a lot more production just in
life if that's the way it worked now. I hate
Kevino when people say, well, if all the owners decided
to pay everyone least, first of all, it's collusion, right,
But if they decided that these guys you know, wouldn't
be paid so much. I think incentive based contracts would
(38:34):
be better for everyone except the players, right, But if
the player's delivered, those incentives would be huge. What if
this Max free deal with the Yankees, what if his
salary swayed like a five million dollar degree based on
innings pitched Whip Era To me, that's wildly awesome. I'd
(38:56):
say that would be fair and would make more sense.
But it's it's hard to put the toothpaste back.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
In the tube.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
As they say, you can't move in reverse. When you're
pampering the hell out of these dudes and you're giving
Jan Soto seven hundred and sixty five million dollars average,
you can't just all of a sudden, like now, change
how we're paying people. That's where owners messed up. You
gave them way too much. And I understand that these
players are making money for your company.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
We get all that.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
I'm just saying, there should have been ways to incentivize
a stronger performance. Now you're getting athletes hot dog in
it and lackluster performances, and you get Jokics coming from
an old school, different place where yo, guys, you're not
playing as hard as you could. We just got embarrassed
by the worst team in the NBA. Hey, I don't
(39:46):
blame him for speaking out like that because he's the
only guy playing a win.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
He scored fifty six points.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Let me tell you, there's nothing more frustrating in life
when you're pulling all the way and no one else
is helping out. You know that's what he's doing. You
know who would love this more than anything? And why'd
you look at Danny means spot when you said that.
I'm just saying no. I think everybody could relate to
that where it's like, hey man, I'm the one working here.
What do you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're slacking?
Speaker 2 (40:09):
Yeah, whatever that whatever that is, Yeah, class project when
you're the kid that did all the work right exactly.
Let's say want Soto the average Let's say it's around
fifty million a year. Again, you can't put the toothpaste
back in the tube. But what if it was like,
all right, one, mister Soto, you're gonna make forty million
dollars a year if you bet over to eighty five
(40:29):
at five mil, if you hit forty more home runs
at five mil, over one hundred rbi at five mil,
it could be worth more than fifty. Yeah, but you
started forty yo. Rodon Max freed all your pictures. Hey,
if your eer is three or under, I mean at
five minutes to sports. This is how you motivate people man,
not only in sports, but in real life. If we
(40:52):
have those sort of incentives, my goodness, you don't think
you'd see a better work effort here at the studio,
you know, at the restaurant, at the office, the factory.
You'd be seeing people really trying to push to get
ahead because now they're in control of their destiny and
their money.
Speaker 1 (41:06):
What about it?
Speaker 2 (41:07):
It's like like what a mission based workers? You know,
they're always pushing a little harder. What about other people?
What if you told linebackers? What if you told Fred Warner?
What if you told Max Crosby, What if you told
either Bosa, Hey, for every strip of the ball, for
every turnover, you cause three million dollars two million dollars. Hey,
(41:27):
every time you're running back that fumbles the ball and
it's turned over to the other team, if you don't
retain possession, you lose five hundred thousand dollars. What about
Spirit Airlines recently getting called out for ten dollars for
every oversized bag? Exactly, tell Usten. We'll touch on this,
maybe more tomorrow. Until then, have a great night a
riba there at you baby. We'll see you in the
(41:47):
Promised Land. Go back to night, guys,
Hosts And Creators
Rich Davis
Steve Covino
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