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Lots to get to again, I'm Cavino, that is Rich.
We be rocking out. Let's go we're gonna talk about
six symbols. We're gonna talk about beards and old people
and a lot to get to today. But I do
want to pose a Rando question as we start up
our CNR extravaganza on a Thursday. I saw something on
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TikTok earlier. Yeah, and it was like, there's two types
of people and I got to know what we're dealing
with in the studio with you. And I was Sam
and Danny and Monsey today. Hey, Manzi, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I'm so good?
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Hi, guys him Monci.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
Let me get congratulations on your twenty year relationship.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Oh it is beautiful, it really is. I know. I
heard it's China, right, That's what our listener called and
said yesterday. Yeah, China. It means I gotta get you
some China. Is it twenty years? Yeah, twenty years. I
thought it was earlier than that. Let me see, I
don't know China, China, China. So there you go. As
it's not wood, so don't want to tell me. Yes,
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there's two types of people on TikTok porcelains. There's drones
people and there's orbs people. No that that's a good
drones and but as the holidays approach, Oh, I know
there's Bruce Buffer people, and there's Michael Buffer people. I
mean there are there's Keith Hernandez people, and there's Domatically people.
There's Nirvana people, there's Pearl jampe else. We're country separated.
(02:24):
Where the pink Starburst people, there's red Starburst people. There's
people that love eggnog and people that think there's you
know what, rich you're really breaking the ice. There's all
kinds of people. They we're all divided on so many things.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There's candy corn people and candy corn haters.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah right, you ain't kidding, Danny. That divides the nation.
Mine both have to do. I have two because I
just thought of another one when it comes to the holidays.
First of all, are you a I wrap my presence
in a pristine type of way or you the eye lazily?
He put it in a bag with some tissue paper.
(03:04):
I wrap him real sloppy, like an extra snappy. But
if I had a bag, I would do that too. Yeah,
I got a recycle host. That's the easy way out.
I feel like you gotta precisely wrap those bad boys.
But the bigger question is on Christmas morning when Santa
comes for your kids, you're sitting around the tree grabbing
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a couple of coffee because your kids woke you up
at five thirty am. Santa game. Santa comes, but he
always forgets batteries. Don't worry, Dad will run out into
the store. Are you the type of family, because I
think this is maniac behavior. Does everyone open their presence
at the same time or do you have a one
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at a time? Danny, this one's for you from Brenda
and everyone watches you open it? Or is it I
want a Karanate kick Rich in the head. Sometimes I
really do, because I used to tell him because I
know where he's going, because for years, you know, I
come from a big blended family of white people and Hispanics,
and right I'm half Mexican, my dad's Italian. And I
(04:08):
would always tell him, well, I don't know if it's
just my family or what, but we have a present
chair the throne. I mean, I mean, I didn't know
what to call it, but I would like, He's like,
what do you mean. I'd be like, well, one person
sits there and we all watch while the open gifts,
and then someone else gets in that chair and then
it's their turn, and I said, it's fun for the kids.
But you know, by the time Aunt Googie gets in
the chair, we're like, all right, let's get on with us.
(04:29):
It takes it takes up the whole night. I mocked
the chair. It used to mock the whole process the chair.
Now he's saying it's all great and grand because he's
a family guy. Bro, I've never been opened them all
at once. I just would mock the fact that you
guys break out like the Santa chair. It was just
a chair, dude. The rest was in your stupid imagination.
(04:50):
Well I'm imagining. I have a great imagination. But is
it safe to say, before you get into Aaron Rodgers
and baseball acquisitions and all the sports today, if your
family just says and go, is that not psychopath behavior?
You put in all this effort, in time and wrapping
in this. Do you think everyone should simultaneously be opening
like ten presents like adults. I know, because you're trying
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to capture these moments too and get the picture moment
and be respectful to the gift that was given. But
here's what I think adults do whatever you want the kids,
it's for the kids, So you let the kids open
one at a time, respectfully, don't you want to get
don't you want to get more juice out of each squeeze?
Meaning like if your kid, let's say, has got five
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or ten presents, if you just left it up to
the kids and adults at all wants, it'd be everything
would be ripped up in a minute.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
You know who loves it when it's a free for
all your pets because they get all in the wrapping paper.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
You know, I'm the dad going around with the plastic
bag like trying to tidy up as we go. Of course,
of course that's always the dad's job to make sure
you do all of that. But to answer your question, Rich,
I don't think it's a free for all like Ralphie
and his little piglet brother from a Christmas story what
was Ralphie's brother's name? And a Christmas story when he
just started opening stuff and throwing socks around and looking
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for the good gifts. I think it's one kid at
a time so that you could take it all in and,
like you said, get more Christmas juice out of the squeeze.
We want to get some bank for your buck. I
think that's how you do it, even though the kids
just can't wait to dive in to see if Santa
brought him something cool.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Of course, little brother was Randy.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Randy and Ralphie just ran down there and just started
opening stuff up. That's not the right way to do it,
one kid at a time, and maybe you start with
the youngest kid first, Like, there's gotta be a little
system there. Everyone has to be patient so you can
take the pictures accordingly, Quail Grazes, anyone in the room
get you smile? Is anyone a psychopath? Does anyone in
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this room open everything all at once.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Like and go I think I've done both ways where
it's just free for all, go for it, and then
also like one at a time.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
I think the biggest I think the biggest takeaway of
this conversation is that the little brother's name was Randy.
Has a boy been named Randy in the last fifty years,
like Kenny Poffo, macho man? Raddy Savage would be like
sixty something, not a Randall. Oh yeah, different name, but
that Randy could be short for Randall, Randy Vollardi, legendary yankee.
(07:22):
He's an old ask guy.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, you're famous niner from back in the day, Randy Cross.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Great player, Randy and great hair Brandy with eight a's.
I don't think in the twenty first century have you
ever met someone they're like, here's my baby, meet my kid.
This is little Randy, Randy with a M Randy Bullet,
Randy Travis, Top three, Randy's, Rady Machoan, Savage, Randon Watson.
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Is there a third red?
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Remember Randy Jackson from American Idol.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And Randy Jackson you would tell about all great cool
old people. There was also a Randy Jackson in the
Jackson five. Can you imagine meeting someone and them saying,
h that's my daughter, my daughter Barbara. That name's extinct. Well,
there's a lot of old guy names. I mean, our
names are old guy names. At this point, our names
might as well be you know, Ebenezer at this point,
(08:11):
Steve and Rich and Dan.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The Randy Ranker online says, Randy Rhodes, Randy Orton and
Randy Kature and Randy from a Christmas story.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
You just rummaged into his Christmas presence, Ma, so be respectful.
I think you should have like a little kid first
sort of system. But one kid out of time. Otherwise
you're not really paying respect to the mind. I mean,
I'm not a jerk, I'm not a stickler, but I
feel like I've always tell my kids, like, oh, hold
up a second, Let Dad get his coffee, Sarah, my wife,
you got the camera, all right, pick one each. Go.
(08:42):
Let me tell your little Emmy bear. Who's the oldest
of you two? All right, Benny boy goes first. Your
little brother. Let little Benny open up his presence, show
everyone Santa got you. Emmy's a good big sister, and
she helps him out and they post for pictures. Then
it's Emmy's turn. You make a big spiel about that.
So I think that's how it goes down. Okay, there's
the takeaway, and then adults, it's like, who cares the takeaway?
(09:04):
If you're if you do free for all style, your
family's a bunch of psychopaths. Moving on, speaking of speaking
of psychopaths, we talk to Aaron Rodgers this documentary Enigma.
I've watched part of episode one. I know you're done
with the first three. Is it only three parts or
keep going episodes? I had to watch them all because
he's so intriguing. He's not quite like Mike Tyson level
(09:26):
of intriguing, but Aaron Rodgers is up there. I'd say
he's like a top He's the top five most intriguing
athletes of all time. The dude is wild. Do you
know what's crazy about him too? What makes him an
enigma is you don't normally see that many hippie dippy
guys to that level that are searching for answers to
this level that are also great in sports and athletics
(09:49):
in this type of way. It's like, you know, the
Bill Bill Walton was a big time hippie guy, right, yeah,
but he was also great at basketball. Aaron Rodgers is
like next level. For me, it's almost mind bad. I
fling and boggling that this guy could go on darkness
retreats and Ayahuasca journeys and still come back and focus
on football. To me, I'm like, how could you do?
Both dudes got layers, and I'm not trying to stereotype,
(10:12):
but I know he's saying there's more grunks in the
world of sports than Aaron Rodgets and that's what makes
him Like, Wow, man, what a wild guy. So after
he hangs up the cleats every weekend, he's in uh,
Costa Rica, you know, in a darkness retreat, high on
something like how do you? How do you focus on
(10:32):
all of that? But he's searching for answers. I'm not judging.
I'm just watching and saying, Wow, this guy really is
an enigma. But I find I find how open he is,
how vulnerable he's become to be kind of likable. He's
very honest in this, and I respect him for that.
I don't know many athletes, many people period that are
(10:53):
as vulnerable and open as he now is, especially in
his documentary. How insulted would your parents feel if you
publicly talked about how you had a reparent yourself? Well,
he imagine, imagine your mom's insulted when I say, when
I say we ate cereal growing up, I didn't eat ceria.
(11:14):
I cooked you breakfast every every morning. I made you
waffles and I made you hairs browns. Come, mom, we
ate cereal like all the time. Well, maybe I wasn't
good enough of a parent then no. So he does
say that he has to re parent himself in a sense,
(11:35):
meaning reprogram the black and white, right and wrong, very
religious world that his parents brought him up in because
he sees the world differently so and he's entitled to that.
It's a really interesting documentary again, three parts where you
follow his career and you sort of see and understand
(11:55):
why he needs some questions answered, he needs more. He's
a deeper thinker and he's definitely just searching for answers
of who he really is, especially who is he really
after football? You know I'm gonna start it tonight. Well
I'm gonna dive into it more tonight. I started episode one.
Every minute we talk about Aaron Rodgers, Danny g loses
(12:16):
a hair because he hates when we talk about Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
I die slowly inside. You know what, I'm going to
start this doc never you know cushlash. I get cush lash. Yeah,
I got Aaron Rodgers lash.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Let me tell you I finished. I'm caught up on
Silo on Apple TV fantastic. I wanted to watch that
Jason Bateman thriller on Netflix about the TSA. I don't
know if anyone's watched that, but Aaron Rodgers. This is
on the radar and I hear people saying it is
very interesting. Love him or hate him, You really do
look at Aaron Rodgers like what an interesting dude, very
interesting guy, one of the greatest, Aaron him talking about
(12:53):
butterflies and caterpillars on a clip I saw. I mean,
he's out there playing the bongos, getting his face painted
like he lets himself really, he lets you see him
really out there, is what I'm trying to say. But
he's also part of a little bit of drama today,
and I want to establish where we're coming from, where
we're not Aaron Rodgers haters by any mean, Danny g
(13:15):
not a fan at all, not.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
A hater, but just you know, you're sick of how much. Yeah,
he's too much coverage, even for all the wrong reasons.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
And I understand that as well. I'm not a fan
by any means. You know, I'm just a fan of sports.
But I'm not an Aaron Rodgers guy. I was never
the guy saying he's a bad man. But I always
found what he did on the field impressive. What I
found what he did off the field was his business.
But now he's in a little bit of a I
(13:46):
would say a broadcasting drama. I would say so, and
I think Aaron Rodgers, I'm not saying benefit of the doubt,
but you know, year one after his first major injury,
and he is getting older. I do wonder if he
does decide to play another year, you know, with the
Jets or elsewhere, could we see a different Aaron Rodgers
(14:08):
in a year. Is it tough to really jump back
into greatness after your first real major injury like that?
So I mean, I don't think the book I'd never
wrote against written. I would never root against an older
guy trying to go out there and get it one
more time. As we always say the oldest cliche, father
time is undefeated. But I love seeing guys go against
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it and do their best. And if there's anyone committed enough,
I think it is Aaron Rodgers. But I do think
the other extracurricular stuff gets in his way. That's just
my opinion. He says in his documentary that it helps
him become a better leader, So if that's true, then
he's saying it benefits him as an athlete, as a
leader on the team. But here's where the drama lies.
(14:53):
We've all seen his ups and downs, we've all seen
the injury. It's garnered a lot of criticism, and that's
just part of the gig. Right, you're a superstar athlete,
you're in the NFL, you're Aaron Rodgers, You're getting a
lot of attention. Sometimes you're putting yourself out there for that.
USA Today predicted they'd win the Super Bowl. Analyst on
(15:16):
every sports network. We're debating as the season began, is
Aaron Rodgers going to end the Jets playoff drought? Is
he the guy to bring the Jets to the Promised
Land for the first time since Joe Namath straggling? Well,
you know what, rich I think this is important to
this conversation too, because he says this in the new
documentary on Netflix, Enigma. He just wanted to be a
(15:38):
great football player. That's kind of all he knew. All
the other stuff that comes with it. Yeah, people know
that comes with it, but that's not necessarily anything he
ever wanted or was built for. So this is also
part of the reason as to why he tries to
search for more to handle and deal with those high
pressure situations. Yeah, but he comes with it. I roll
(16:00):
my eyes when you know that. The pop artist you
may have heard the name Chapel Rome. She has a
couple of big hits. Yeah, but some people love that attention.
Some people weren't made for it. She was criticized heavily
over the last months in the music world because she
doesn't want to interact her fans. She's like, I never
wanted this attention. It's like you have pop songs on
the radio. It comes with it. Aaron Rodgers, you want
to be star quarterback, it comes with So he's trying
(16:21):
to deal with it. I'm just trying to make that clear.
So he admits he's a sensitive guy. That's why he
tries to get answers and figure out who he is.
And he's trying to be a better guy. So he
has his ups and downs, he has his struggles. He
gets hurt. We know that he comes back. He's not
the same guy. What are they? Four and ten? The Jets,
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And he's been getting a lot of criticism, well from everybody, deservingly.
So he's an athlete and people are going to criticize
the games and that's what we do. But Ryan Clark
of ESPN is one of those guys, and he kind
of leans in a little tough. He does because we
have the audio to prove. I mean, he leans in
(17:05):
pretty hard. But he's also breaking down the numbers, breaking
down the stats, and it gets a little sticky icky,
because then there's a back and forth. Now here's the
question that we're gonna post. We're gonna play the back
and forth for you. But the question is broadcasting in
(17:25):
today's world, it's different than it was in yesteryear. A
broadcaster would say what he wanted and the athlete, I guess,
had to deal with it because you really didn't have
a voice. He didn't have a platform. He was just
the guy on the field who was maybe interviewed at
the end of the game. Those days are over. That's
the way I see it at social media, at all
(17:47):
these outlets. I mean, it's more bundlely clear than ever.
Broadcasting and feedback nowadays. Like it or not, I don't
necessarily like it. I'm just accepting it and telling you
how it is. It's a two way st Broadcasting and
feedback is now a two way street, meaning a broadcaster
could say whatever he wants about the game, and this
(18:08):
guy sucks and he's not bringing the e and this
guy isn't what he used to be. But now every
athlete under the moon has a platform or a podcast
or a social media page where he could easily hit
him back with his side of things. So it's it's
a new world of I mean, social media is not new,
but this is not yesteryear where broadcaster or radio host
(18:32):
said something and that was sort of where it ended. Yeah,
because guess what Aaron Rodgers, Yeah, he's the guy he
on the field, but he's he's also the guy with
a social media platform, and he's also the guy on
Pat McAfee's show. Right, so he also has a voice.
Is he's supposed to curb his thoughts when someone just
took a shot. That's what we're saying here. It's like
(18:52):
any argument you get in, right, some people hold on
to what you said. And this happens in my own life.
It could be my ex. Let's say my ax. Keep
my current girlfriend out of it, right, same my ax.
She could hold on to something I said forever. But
why did I say what I said? Because of what
you said about my mama? In other words, if you
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say something about my mama, I'm not allowed to say something.
Why not? So if Ryan Clark is saying something about
Aaron Rodgers, is Aaron Rodgers not allowed to say something back.
That's really what we're getting at, because that's how the
world works today. Kevin Durant, famous for burner accounts and
arguing back and forth with fans in the media. NBA
(19:38):
infamous for this. So we're gonna play the Ryan Clark
Aaron Rodgers back and forth coming up, and you could
be the judge. Are you a team Ryan Clark? Your
team Aaron Rodgers? Do you love these squabbles? Does it
make for more entertaining sports? Is this better for the
world of sports when athletes and commentators are going at
and are you team Rogers or Team Clark? Well to
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but right now we're talking Aaron Rodgers, which to the
dismay of Danny G. Before we play this Aaron Rodgers,
Ryan Clark back and forth, Danny g and I want.
I love the honesty, which is why Danny's a great producer. Man,
(22:53):
I really hate when you guys talk about Aaron Rodgers.
You genuinely think this stinks.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Yeah, I mean, he's been one of the top five
topics over this past year, and I get it. We
cover the trending topics, the trending stories in the world
of sports. But I've told you in the past, if
it's extra Aaron Rodgers fluff, I really don't care about it.
I don't want to hear about it. And I know
I'm not alone because I have a couple of friends
who are Jets fans, and with what's been happening with
(23:18):
that team this season, they don't want to hear or
talk about their own quarterback. So I know I'm not
the only one rolling my eyes a little bit, Like, Man,
can Aaron Rodgers just go away for a little bit?
Speaker 1 (23:28):
I feel you, and I understand where you and those
people are coming from. For sure. I find this one
to be extra interesting though, because of the documentary that's out.
He's on our radar. We're in the middle of the
season we're wrapping up the season. This story has gone
very viral on social media, so I want to bring
(23:49):
it to Fox Sports Radio. And we also live in
the world of broadcasting, So for me, this is at
all angles and.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
Rogers has won five Super Bowls, so I understand why
everyone talks about.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Had the break Danny Goes while we Truther's got like
Tom brud or I get it. There are some people
that say, dude, he won one super Bowl. You know
who else did? Like, you know, a lot of Drew
Brees won one Super Bowl. He had a great career.
No one talks about it.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Yeah, we you know, we didn't cover one time winning
Super Bowl quarterbacks as much cons Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
All right, so we want honest opinions. And the question
really is is broadcasting and feedback in today's world broadcasting especially,
is it a two way street. And it starts with
the criticism that Ryan Clark, who's an NFL analyst on ESPN,
the criticism he's given Aaron Rodgers for stinking it up
with the Jets.
Speaker 5 (24:36):
This dude is once again tone deaf. This dude is
once again unaware.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
This dude is once again arrogant to a point they're
so almost sickening.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
This dude is a fraud and he could throw a football.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
And that's where it stops about me.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
I don't care, but just before you do it, just
states your back status, because then when you say things
about me, people can at least be like, oh, you
are captured by the multi billion dollar propaganda's.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
Giant twenty first, also know that you're in quarterback of
a four and ten team who has to win the
last three games to even be equal to what last
year's team.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
So Ryan Clark is doing his job, his job. He's
sort of cutting in on Aaron Rodgers a little bit.
I'm sure that's the sorry time out, cutting in a
little bit. I wrote down what he said tone death, unaware,
sickeningly unaware, and he's a fraud. Okay, but hold on,
(25:37):
here's how it hurt. Anyone say that word except Rob Parker. Fraud,
he's fool gayzy. Ryan Clark's job, hold on, is to
give analysis of the game, and he was basically saying
for week after week after week that he's thinking like
a Blincoln. So then Aaron Rodgers came out publicly and
(25:58):
said there's a lot of people talking about out the game. Now,
a lot of these so called experts on TV that
nobody remembers what they did in their career, so in
order for them to stay relevant, they have to make
comments that keep them in the conversation. And then he
went to McAfee and he was talking about yeah and
the guy with that broach. You know, Ryan Clark wears
(26:19):
that RC on his shirt. So he's calling out Ryan
Clark and what he's saying. So Ryan Clark comes back
with that, Aaron Rodgers comes back with his stuff on McAfee,
and then Ryan Clark went to social media to say,
you know some other stuff about you know. Look, man,
I'm just doing my job, but you're coming at me personally.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
Now, well, let me be very very clear. My job
is to analyze you. You've decided to analyze me. And
in analyzing you, what I know is your QBR is
twenty first. Also know that you're the quarterback of a
four and ten team who has to win the last
three games of the season to even be equal to
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ast year's team was without you.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
No, I get it. You get on the.
Speaker 5 (27:05):
Show and you talk about my brooch and you curse
and all.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
This tough talk.
Speaker 5 (27:11):
I just need you to know, So none of that
scare me. I'm gonna do my job the way I'm
supposed to do it. I feel no way about not
being able to talk about what the film says because of.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
What sounds like two sensitive guys to me. One guys like,
don't talk about my brooch. Other guy's like, hey, don't
talk about my football skills. So they're going back and forth.
What you're witnessing is a back and forth, and I
think that is the new normal in the world of broadcasting.
Ryan Clark could do his job, but that doesn't mean
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guys like Aaron Rodgers are gonna sit there and be
silent anymore. Those days are done. So if you don't
want to hear some sort of rebuttal right, some sort
of comeback clap back, then you got to just choose
your words carefully when you're criticized these athletes. The reality
is Ryan Clark went hard at Aaron Rodgers, So to
(28:05):
act surprised that Aaron Rodgers came back at him hard
is not. It shouldn't be surprising. He called him a fraud,
tone deaf, unaware, He's uh, sickeningly unconnected all this stuff.
What is Aaron Rodgers supposed to be like man, thanks
Ryan Clark for the kind words. Ryan Clark is nobody
compared to Aaron Rodgers, A no buddy. Ryan Clark would
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tell you, guess what, man, I spent over ten years
in the NFL, and I have just as many rings
as you. He's played in two Super Bowls. Ryan Clark
has way more accolades than us in the NFL. I
played zero games. But Aaron Rodgers is a future Hall
of Famer, Ryan Clark, if he wasn't on ESPN, you'd
be like, Ryan Clark was what did he do? The
guy with it? Google Ryan Clark? You know who comes
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at first? An actor named Ryan Clark.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
Rich At this point, though, do you kind of consider
Aaron Rodgers as a pseudo broadcaster? He's on every week.
I blame some of this oversaturation on Pat McAfee, who
I know. I've known him for a while. We used
to book them every week on Klay Travis's show, Great Dude.
But I guess he pays Aaron Rodgers to come on
the show. That whole story. Remember when viral.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
Seems like it's worth it? Right?
Speaker 3 (29:12):
Yeah? I mean it is because it helped blow McAfee
show up.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Well, that's been a storyline in itself too, how McAfee
was just doing what he thought was the right thing
to do because Aaron Rodgers brought so much value to him.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
Yeah, I think I would be more interested in Aaron Rodgers'
opinions if I heard them once in a while like
other NFL players, not weekly every time I open up
the website. Thanks for our show prep, it's Aaron Rodgers
says this about this. In this it's almost like how
Lebron has too many thoughts and comments on everything going on.
Speaker 4 (29:41):
That's a great comparison. I agree with you in the
sense that we see so much of Aaron Rodgers. He
doesn't bother me the way he bothers other people. But
I do think Ryan Clark or dissecting Aaron Rodgers right
now at this point in the season is low hanging through.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
We know he's bad. He's bad now. It's been a
sucky it'.
Speaker 3 (30:00):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
So I agreed with Rich it's like a little bit
more than just. It seemed personal and he very much
like we all know he sucks right now. Like it's
not that he sucks as but right now he hasn't
opolayed well except.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
For the last two weeks, and how And it's a
great point, Moncie, So how would anyone handle it? Like
if we had we have a great platform here on
Fox Sports Radio. But my point is, let's say we
were on McAfee, you know, every day, and some dude
was talking smack about you every single time they had
the chance. You wouldn't use that as an opportunity to
(30:32):
maybe to jab him a little bit. I think we
all want to get a jab pun intended. Yeah, And
you know what that seems everybody, And I think that's
what we're seeing here, man, We're seeing how broadcasting has changed.
You could throw things out there, but you also have
to know that you're gonna get it back. So for
Ryan Clark to act like he's surprised that Aaron Rodgers
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came back at him, it's like, well, welcome to twenty
twenty four, man. And that's how the world works. Everybody
has a podcast, everybody has a voice, everybody has an opinion,
and they're gonna let it be known. Surprise, surprise. Yeah.
So look, I don't blame mother, I don't blame really anybody.
It's just how it is. And if you can't take it,
then don't throw it out there. Yeah, it's it was
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more more than a football criticism. And when you say
words like yeah, but it started with just football criticism,
rich it did. That's that's the part maybe I think
you're missing. It started with criticism. Aaron Rodgers then said, look,
everyone's got a voice, blah blah blah, irrelevant athletes who
now have to keep their names relevant blah blah blah.
Fact Clark took that personal and that's when he called
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Aaron Rodgers a fraud. And then Aaron Rodgers went yapping
about his broach on McAfee, and then Ryan Clark went
to social media saying, look, I'm doing my job. You're
just coming after me for no reason. That's the gossip
and the bossip and the breakdown here on Fox Sports Radio.
(32:00):
Thoughts and opinions on that I want to hear from.
You have a related question. McAfee works for ESPN, but
it's his own thing. So does Ryan Clark. I know no,
but I'm saying they're both under the same parent company.
Even though McAfee is probably the best thing that happened
on that network in a long time, right since us
when we were there. I mean, I thought, so Ryan
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Clark and McAfee essentially work for the same company. Do
you have to stick up for some of that works
for your company? Like what if someone came on our
show and started trashing another host here, Well we would,
we would. We have to keep our mouth shut. When
when Ryan Clark started calling Aaron Rodgers fraud and all
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that other stuff, you can see Cam Newton and Steven A.
Smith like, oh snap, like you know, because they're all
under the same umbrella. So it is a little weird.
But that's just how broadcasting and social media works today.
It's as simple as that. You got to watch what
you say. True, I watch what I say. I say, hey,
look respectfully, this is what I'm seeing. This is how
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I feel. Look, I'm not a professional athlete, so look,
these guys are are always going to be better than
me at the sport. But this is what I'm seeing. Now,
let's go to month SE for an update. Very interesting.
All I'm on SEA. I know Danny doesn't like Aaron Rodgers.
I think we're done with it, Danny don'ware rest of
the show. No Aaron Rodgers. I I think a lot
of people don't like Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (33:23):
It's not just Danny g.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
I think a lot of people would agree.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Guys.
Speaker 4 (33:26):
Week sixteen of the NFL is going to kick off
at a fifteen later today in AFC West Showdown, Chargers
hosting the Broncos.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (33:34):
Quarterback Patrick Mahomes off the injury report. He's good to
go for Saturday's game against the Texans, but left tackle
DJ Humphries he is out because of a hamstring injury.
The Steelers have ruled out wide receiver George Pickins because
of his hamstring injury, and quarterback Justin Fields for Saturday's
game against Baltimore.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
TJ.
Speaker 4 (33:49):
White, TJ White, TJ Watt off the injury report, he's
gonna play. Saints announced that quarterback Spencer Ratler is going
to start Monday, not against the Packers. And ESPN has
a story that running back Alvin Kamaras groin injury might
actually be season ending. They're still evaluating, but he may
have played his last down this year already. And the
Jets interviewed Jim Naggy for their general manager vacancy.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That to you, guys, Yes, all right, well you know what,
I have a question, how do you handle it when
someone talks smack about someone you know or work with.
Do you have like a personal code? Do I have
a personal code? I mean how much it's stinging and
and like Manzi's I think Monzi really hit the nail
(34:31):
on the head too. It's like, you know, Aaron Rodgers,
no one knows more than Aaron Rodgers that this has
been a tough year. So for these guys to be
leaning into it all the time, I mean, everyone has
a breaking point. He probably had enough, so he responded,
And I don't blame him. He has the outlets to
do so, so I would probably respond after a while.
(34:52):
We're done with Aaron Rodgers of the day until you
watched the documentary later tonight. But anyone in the room
do ayahuasca if you poop your pants and vomit. I
would I if it didn't include like losing control of
your functions. Yeah. There's a clip in the docu series
where Jared Goff goes up to him. He's like, I'm
really kind of interested in what you're doing, man, you
(35:13):
know what the medicine and everything, and Aaron Rodgers like,
oh yeah, right. So there's a lot of people. There's intrigue.
I just every time I hear about ayahuasca, whether it
was Robin Quivers on The Howard Stern Show or Aaron Rodgers,
it always involves like losing control, your bowels are vomiting.
I'm like, no, thanks, that's not for me, man. I
don't need answers as badly as he does. I guess
(35:33):
everybody's different. Why we got more Conveno and Rich. We're
gonna go old school in fifty hits. We're gonna talk about,
you know, some baseball acquisitions and of course a lot
of NFL all here on Fox Sports Radio. Happy holidays
from your bros that you never asked for, your best buds,
(35:58):
you never asked for. Covino and Rich celebrating twenty years
this week, and before we get into old school and
fifty hits, throwing it back on a Thursday like we
always do. Again, we'rely from the tyrack dot Com Studios,
Covino and Rich, let's take a quick phone call. Sorry
to add to the Aaron Rodgers fatigue, but it's a
big story. All this back and forth with him and
Ryan Clark of ESPN. The more I thought about it,
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I agree, Danny g with the Rogers fatigue. Excuse me
getting emotional. No, I'm kidding. I just take up. I
agree with the fatigue. I am going to watch a
documentary you sipping on Grandpa's egnok. I do think it
felt personal from Ryan Clark. I don't know what happened.
Eventually got a little personal because there was so many
(36:40):
jabs going back and forth. I mean, listen, if it
was like, yo, Aaron Rodgers has not played up to
the level of Aaron Rodgers' year. The jet stink, it's
a bad fait blah blah blah. This is all obvious
observational stuff. Yeah, and keep that in mind. It's not
the first time Aaron Rodgers heard criticism. Yeah. Yeah, when
you talk about tone deaf and unaware and this guy's
sickening and he's a fraud that that's not the game, dude,
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that's taking shots like, y'all, I don't like this guy.
And then when Aaron Rodgers shoots back and he's arrogant,
and then Ryan Clark comes back with his soft spoken
arrogance like, let me tell you something. Everyone likes doing
my job. Everything about is gross. Uh, Trevor and Waco,
what's up? Man?
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Hey, what's going on? Guys? What's It's funny you should
say that because that was almost.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
My exact Oh, I'm sorry, dude.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
No, that's okay, that's okay. It's not my thunder.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
It just show let me tell you. It just shows
you great, great mind stinker like Trevor.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
That's what is I suppose. Mostly what I wanted to
say is, uh, my Aaron Rodgers fatigue has been real
for the last you know, eight years or so. I
think that the media, a lot of the media. I
know you guys are media, but you're a little bit different. Yeah.
I think that the media has really attacked the guy
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because he's finally not good. And you know, he's been
great for so long. I'm a New England Patriots fan
and from I'm from him out of the Boston area,
so he's been compared to the greatest and this and that,
and it's always frustrated me because Tom Brady wins. Aaron
Rodgers is only one a little bit. But at this
point I kind of feel for the guy because it's
(38:13):
like he's bad. So now he's being attacked by the
biggest media outlet in the world being you know, the
New York media. And then Ryan Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark
issue is not with like he wasn't being a profession
He wasn't being a professional.
Speaker 1 (38:30):
In that Yeah, it seemed that way. It got to
that point. To be fair, let's just say it got
to that point and that's the joy of the documentary.
That's a great point he made though, like the minute
Aaron Rodgers did suck, that's when people felt it okay
to mock him. It sucks. Also coming off an injury
and maybe he's not done. That would be a great story.
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We shall see. But look at the clock. It's time
to go old school. There's a certain.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
What we're gonna do, go back back into time, throwing
it back for a Thursday, old school when fifty hits,
that's fifty after CNR give you the time capsule topic
and we reminisce together.
Speaker 1 (39:15):
But going from old guys like Aaron Rounders to old
school when fifty hits another old guy in the news.
In fact, that's kind of crazy to see how old
he is. Because today is a legends birthday. It was
yesterday this week is a legend's birthday. Man, I hope
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he got his card. Brad Pitt turned sixty one this week. Yeah,
I thought it was today, it was yesterday. Brad Pitt
sixty one years old. That's hard to Uh, that's hard
to wrap your head around, right, try din't know him
with the same agent. Yeah, but here's the crazy part
about Le's like everybody ages right and grows old gracefully.
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But it's the fact that we still use Brad Pitt
as the answer, the answer to like, who do you
think who do you think you are? Brad Pitt? Like,
Brad Pitt's sixty one years old, and he's still the
answer to like sex symbol and stuff. Mean, not to
sound rude, but like it's like the equivalent when someone
goes Pim Anderson, Why can't shame Pam Raantherson, she's an
(40:25):
old lady. Now we need new answers. He's not in
find me a sixty one year old woman, because that
would be the same thing. Like, of course it was
Robert Redford for a long time. But it's like, yeah,
but now Jalo's not far from sixty even though he
looks great. You gotta like stop using that as the answer.
It's got to be someone else. So let's go through
(40:47):
time rich and go over the greatest sex symbols of
our generation, male and female. Now like who comes to mind?
And uh, you know, I got one who celebrates a
birthday today, So you know what, Hank type. I'll give
you the answers. Next that we'll take your feedback. Give
you none, rich
Speaker 4 (41:09):
Mm hmm