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December 26, 2024 40 mins

Dan and Monse in for C&R as Dan shares why he resents the younger generation of Seahawks fans. Dan and Monse take calls from those who resent the new fans of something they have loved for many years.  Plus, Dan and Monse pay tribute to those who went to work the day after Christmas.

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I hope.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
So look out of the corner of your eye. I
saw it straight on from Isaac.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
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Speaker 1 (02:23):
Absolutely pitting Toledo has got Isaac's attention, that's for sure.
You know what my has my attention tonight you Sawks,
Seahawks and Bears an Thursday night football. I don't know
if it has anyone else's attention, And I don't know
if it's because it's Seahawks Bears in the game. I mean,
it matters for the Seahawks. It's very important that they

(02:43):
win this game if they want to win the NFC West,
because if they don't, then it's pretty much over with.
But I don't I feel like on the heels of
what yesterday was now having another game today, I don't
know if the NFL is getting the maximum out that
they would.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Have helped with this game, and not just with the NBA, right,
I mean with the NFL at the NBA, like all
the success from yesterday that maybe people are just pooped
today with sports.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
I wouldn't doubt it, and I would have no problem
if they missed the game. We talked about it on
Tuesday when we were sitting in here on Cavino and
rich on what your game card was going to look like.
Of the five days of NFL football that you have
in week seventeen, are you going to fill them all
out with five days? And for those that didn't, the
day that I heard you guys were willing to skip
was Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And now I'm watching the game, and you're good.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
Good, I know win of your diehard Gracey girl is
a diehard Seahawks fa.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
So now I'm watching the game after I thought I
wasn't going to watch the game.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
I'm not going to use Grace as an example because
I can't remember Grace's background. Is she from the area.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
She's from here, but her dad was a big Seahawks
fan growing up. Okay, so that's how she is. What
even though she's from LA.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
From er Okay? Perfect?

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Yeah, So she's like you because you're also not from Seattle.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
Correct? Yeah, correct. I became a Seahawks fan in the
early eighties when Dave Craig played for the Seahawks. And
I tell this story a lot, and I apologize if
I'm repeating, but there's there's a bigger point to get to.
When Dave Craig played for the Seahawks, there was a
family connection as my mom knew his dad because his
dad was a state trooper and my mom worked in

(04:18):
the court system in our county and her dad would
submit tickets to my mom's office in that county. And
so when you find out that you know a kid
who played high school you know twenty minutes away is
now in the NFL, pretty big deal. And I was
six seven years old at the time. I still remember
the eighty three season when they beat Dan Marino and
the Dolphins in Marino's rookie season in the AFC Divisional playoffs.

(04:42):
It was January in nineteen eighty four. Still remember that game,
the Seahawks coming back from it, and we were big
Seahawks fans. They lost the next week to the Raiders
in the AFC Championship Game and the Raiders went on
to win the Super Bowl. But that dates back to
like how long I've been a Seahawks fan. I met
the Seahawks later that year in nineteen eighty four when
they played a game in Milwauke against the Green Bay Packers.

(05:02):
Because everybody asked me, you're from Wisconsin. But you're a
Seahawks fan, and that's the reason why that was the connection.
So I've always been a Seahawks fan, and I hate
to say it, but I resent the younger base of
Seahawks fans. And I've come to the realization that I
just have to admit it because and it's it's not

(05:25):
because they're bad people. It's because they didn't put up
with the struggle that was being a Seahawks fan for
two to three decades prior to Mike Comgrin taking over.
And I would even say up till Pete Carroll took
over in the early you know, two thousand and nine,

(05:45):
twenty ten around, you know that time when all of
a sudden they start winning and they get Russell Wilson
like things turn around and they become an exciting team
and end up winning Super Bowl forty eight. But Pete
Carroll and Russell Wilson and the new uniforms made them
a cool team, and it made them a national team
where you would see them on Sunday Night football, you'd
see them on Monday Night football, Thursday night football. You

(06:06):
cannot deny it that they were a marquee team, legion
of boom in the National Football League, and it had
never been like that. In fact, it wasn't even like
that when Mike Holmgridn led them to the Super Bowl
and Super Bowl forty with Matt Hasselback and Shawn Alexander
as their MVP. There's always been the Twelves previously the
twelfth Man, but they had to change it because of
Texas A and M and to call them the Twelves.

(06:28):
There's always been a twelfth Man in Seattle, but the
fan base hadn't grown nationally. It hadn't grown to the
point where you're all of a sudden seeing like we
see tons of Steph Curry Warriors fans here, there and everywhere.
That had never been the case up until recently. And
I just I want to embrace it. I want to
be that fan that says, yes, welcome aboard. But they

(06:50):
don't have the twenty and thirty years of just awfulness
of the Tom Floras era of having, you know, guys
like Kelly stah for be your starting quarterback. Stan Gellbach
came over from NFL Europe when it was a quarterback
for a while, John Freeze. These were all starting quarterbacks
for the Seattle Seahawks in the nineteen nineties, the Rick

(07:12):
Meer era, it was all awful. It was just awful
and bad football. And so when I see people with
the Seahawks stuff, I just finally had to admit it that, man,
if you're not in it for the long haul, Like,
it's tough for me to resent the new fan. And
I know that's bad as a fan, but it's just
it's very, very difficult for me. All Right.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
So I've got questions here. So let's say you're at
a coffee shop. I was gonna say bar, but you're
not gonna be at a bar. Let's say you're out
a coffee shop and at an older gentleman is wearing
a Seahawks and you start talking to him and he
reveals that he actually just became a Seahawks fan. But
he knows the history, he knows how tough it's been,

(07:55):
and you're able to chat about all the little things
you just told me, like he's with you in the conversation,
but you find out he just became a fan. I
don't know. Last year, because Geno Smith came back to
life and brought the you know, Seattle back back to
a topic of conversation after you know, Pete Carrol left
and no Russell Wilson, would that change your mind?

Speaker 1 (08:15):
Hit the road, Jack, you haven't been there for the
long haul.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Even though he knows, he like, he's like, yeah, it
was tough years.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
For a while, I was a Browns fan. Then I
became a Seahawks and I'm like, all right, cool story, bro. Sorry, Well,
I hate.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
To tell you this, Dan, because I think this is
happening more in sports, where people are just picking up
on a team because maybe they like a player, you
know what. Like that's happening more and more where you're
you're not necessarily yeah, you'll have your team, but then
you're gonna see them wearing And I am like this,
like I love the Clippers, but you definitely will see
me wearing Jimmy Butler Miami. He not a jersey per se,

(08:51):
but I will wear a Jimmy Butler shirt. I'm a
Chargers fan, but I will wear a Joe Burrow shirt.
But I Bo Benson, one of our producers here. He's
a perfect example also because he's got jerseys from all
kinds of teams and all kinds of players. Because he's
a fan of players and I feel like that's becoming
more and more common where people are just kind of eh,

(09:13):
I am now following seven different teams because I like
all of these players.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, I can't get with that done and not at all. Sorry,
you can't pick and choose your seasons that you're liking teams.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
That's what makes it, that's what makes it fun, what
I draw it to. And listen, I'm on Facebook and
is you know. I'm from Wisconsin, so I have a
bunch of friends from Wisconsin. There's a friend of mine
who shall be nameless because their child is a Seahawks fan.
And it makes sense. The kid was probably six or

(09:48):
seven when the Seahawks were winning Super Bowls. So you
can't blame a six or seven year old for liking
the Seahawks because they're on TV all the time and
they won the Super Bowl and he's still a fan today.
But in the kid's fourteen, he was porn in what
twenty ten and I'm like, sorry, bro, you know I
can't do it.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Pay it.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
It's not even the kid's fault. It's not even his fault.
But like he didn't have the scarring, he didn't have
the the layers of scar tissue on your fandom, Like
he was born into a world where the Seahawks were
great and it became his team, and forty years from
now you could tell the story like, hey, I just
they were winning and I've liked him ever since. And

(10:28):
at that point he probably has the trump card over
other Seahawks fans that may have just jumped the line,
but not me. If I'm still alive at that point,
it still is not because he joined them as a winner.
That was is his fault, you know, Like I know
it isn't. I know it isn't. Sorry, They're innocent. They're

(10:48):
innocent people, you know that are caught in these casualties
of my resentment towards being a fan. But I compare
it to I compare it to this. I compare it
to when you have a favorite band that not many
people know about them, and then they have a song
that becomes popular and everybody likes that song, and now

(11:09):
you've lost your band to all these people who claim
to be fans of that band. And that's what it
feels like to be a Seahawks fan with this new
generation of Seahawks fans.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Yeah, I like the comparison, even though I don't think
it's the same because.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
The band base.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you because with
bands or artists when they are you know, not as
well known, what tends to happen is when they do
get famous, they tend to be to change their music
and become mainstream. That's typically what happens when someone who
is underground, right, or whatever however you want to call it.

(11:44):
So I don't think it's exactly the same, but I
do like the comparison. I also, you know, I'm a
Clippers fan. I'm trying to is, how do I feel
about the new Clipper fan base because there's new There's
a couple of new ones, not a lot, but there
is a new fan base within the Clippers. And I guess, like,
you know, if I sat down and they were like,
oh no, I just you know, became a Clipper fan

(12:04):
because of Paul George and Kawhi would be like, oh,
I guess, I guess you're.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Right to celebrate.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
But still yeah, but that goes with like you follow
a player. I started because they joined, so I was like, oh,
or I hated Lebron, so I became a Clipper fan.
I but I don't. I think I think you're You're
gonna have to get used to that feeling.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
I know it's it's a Jason Stewart, do you have
any thoughts on this conversation.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
I can't really relate to the sports thing, and maybe
because I'm just not as passionate as you are. But
I'm thinking about the example that I have. It's a
just the Dodgers, and we got a bunch of new
fans this past year from Southeast Asia, and you know,
we've just gotten them over the years.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
Oh yeah, but now it's like a big yes.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
And I really don't take it personal, and I don't.
I don't have that kind of resentment. I'm like, I
know that I've been following this team for a long
time and I've got my own I'm raising everything else.
But I will say this that band thing. I was
a big Baar Naked Wadies fan in the mid nineties, okay,
mid nineties. They did three albums and they were wonderful,
and I went and saw them when a small venue

(13:14):
and then this one song called one Week Hits, Remember
that song one Week nineteen ninety nine or whatever it was,
and they just exploded and then then they became the
popular band. And at that point, I remember thinking to myself,
I do resent this new fan base because I knew
them back when they were this, when they were artists,
and now they're just commercial sellouts.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I feel that there's this similar thing in TV shows
when you're in on a show early, you stake your
claim to it and that it's your show, and you'll
do anything you can to get other people to watch
the show, and then you want to receive the credit
for it.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Yeah, I like you produce the show, like like you
were there, I.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Told you about Ozark, you know, like that sort of thing,
like like you need to thank me. That's you know
how big of an Ozark fan I am. I was
telling other people about it and they watched because like
there's that sort of feeling and I'm playing that that character.
But there is there's a little tie in, maybe not
apples to apples and that scenario, but they're just there
is something about there's something about not going through the

(14:22):
tough times of the trying times. We have a bunch
of Packer fans around here, yeah, and they have probably
became Packer fans for a lot of different reasons, one
of which is probably they were good when people started
watching football, but again, they haven't been really bad ever since,
like ever since Brett fav took over in nineteen ninety two,
they've been pretty darn good, you know.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
A competitive team.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, you know. So I look at those Packer fans
as well as being like, man, geez, really tough time
for you. You know, are Steelers fans like how difficult
has it been for them?

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Not?

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Very?

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Not very It's funny because the TV show example, if
I keep hearing a lot of hype about a TV show,
I don't actually want to watch it because I'm like, no, oh,
you're that one, because you have you I yeah, the
unhot take. You guys are gonna like this one breaking bad.
I didn't get it. I kept hearing about it, hearing

(15:18):
about it. I sat through two episodes and I was like,
I cannot do this. Maybe I need to try it
again now. But at the time, I was like, no,
all this hype was a lie. This is not that good.

Speaker 5 (15:29):
And it's one of those shows though you do need
to get through the first season. Yeah, because it gets
great towards the back end of the first season, right
and then it just becomes amazing.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
After that, you know what, you get all this hype,
everyone's like, it's so great, you love it, and then.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
You watched the whole thing and oh, okay.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Maybe saw two three episodes. I was like, absolutely not,
this is not for me. But the hype was just
so high that I didn't think I had to sit
through episodes.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
I think people brag that they're not Game of Thrones fans.

Speaker 2 (15:59):
I'm not a Game of Thrones care about those dragon eggs?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
So like, I like that is that is so far
from my world, like it like it is, like it's
just it's But me and my wife watched it and
we were late to the party. We weren't, but it
was it was good. I will never sit there and playing,
you know, Game of Thrones, because again we hadn't watched
it for ten years. We didn't have the equity I
appreciate on what I thought was a really really good show.

(16:25):
But there are I find like the people will plant
their flag that they either watched Game of Thrones from
the beginning or that is their badge of honor that
they never watched Game of Thrones, right.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
Remember that show suits Yes, I saw it so I
watched it when it was on the USA network. USA Network.
Nobody watches that network, but it was a really good show,
and I watched it on my DVR, and I watched
every season, and then in recent and the last couple
of years, Netflix puts it out and it becomes like
the most watched series on Netflix, so much so that

(16:57):
I think they're doing They're reading it, or they're starting
it over or starting to continue.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
I think they're bringing something back. And it's always been
a show that I feel like I would like. I
just never came around to it.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
Oh it's great.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
I'm sure I would like. It seems right up my alley.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
But I guess I do kind of resent the new
people that found it on Netflix. I was watching it
on a cable, you know, show that nobody watched.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Eight seven seven nine nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six six ' three six ' nine Sports
Team TV show band. Who do you resent that? What
fan base do you resent? Because they kind of took
it from you or tried to take it from you.
No one's made me less of a Seahawks fan. It's just,

(17:41):
you know, they win the Super Bowl and it wasn't
the same feeling that I got that they got they don't.
I wear the throwback logo not only because it's awesome,
because it also always my childhood, you know. That's like this,
I'm wearing it today. This isn't a Christmas gift, by
the way. I've had it for like three months, but
it's just never been cold enough to wear. So I
finally for a game day. Perfect, let's let's bring it out.

(18:04):
But this, like this is this is me when I'm ten, eleven,
and twelve, Like everything about this logo is is what
I was. I mean, the Seahawks have won the AFC
West in the late eighties, and then they lost to
Boomer a Sis and then the Bengals in a AFC
Divisional playoff game, and I still remember that Steve Largent's
last game, I believe. So it's just like, yeah, just
those sort of memories.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
So when you see a Seahawks fan somewhere and they
start talking to you, do you ask a question just
to see what kind of fan they are?

Speaker 1 (18:30):
You know what it's I'm gonna I'm gonna take it
the other way around. See what happens is they if
I'm wearing a Seahawks shirt they asked me if I'm
from Seattle or Washington, and then I say no. And
what I feel like, my story is legit.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
It is one, there's no question about it.

Speaker 1 (18:49):
So like there's you know, me and Dave Craig outside
with my haircut that looks like I have a helmet
of hair. You know, it's just a huge, you know,
bomb of hair on my head. Me, my sister and
Jim Zorn and my sister who's got braces. You know,
it's nineteen eighty four in the fullest inner bangs and
curls or whatever, the whole deal. Like, it's the whole shebang.
So so that's kind of usually what ends up. You know,

(19:12):
what ends up happening is if I'm wearing a seahawksuff,
somebody will say like, oh, are you from Washington. Then
that's how the story goes.

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(19:54):
you resent other fans because maybe they haven't been a
fan as long as you have. Maybe they've jumped on
the Bandwaig and I've decided to ride the success instead
of the depths and misery of your team? Or has
it happened to you with a band? Does it happened
to you with the TV show? That's what we want
to know, Monty, Tony and Virginia is joining us here
on Cavino and Rich. Let's get right to it, Tony,

(20:16):
lay it honest. Where's the problem? What do we got?

Speaker 6 (20:18):
Good day fellas? Sorry, Monty, I don't think and and
and Mary. I'm too young or I'm young too, So
I don't think it's fair the team band thing, because
there's nothing wrong with adding a band to you, right
like list, I can't keep adding teams, so doesn't been Hey?
Can I say one thing about Monty real quick.

Speaker 7 (20:40):
Sure she seems to know more.

Speaker 6 (20:42):
About tequila than she does about geography, and it's buying it.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
This is accurate, Tony, This is accurate. You're not wrong.
Oh yeah, no, up, all right.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
The Upper Peninsula is tricky. It's not for ever.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
But that's I really I'm bad with geography, I really am.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
And we went over the Great Lakes at one point.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
I couldn't tell you one but if.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
MONSI want homes, Yeah, how you heard it?

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Homes?

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Yes see, we've been over this.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Here on Ontario, Michigan, eerie superior homes.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
Yep, that's it.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I swear that's the first time I ever heard that.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
Well, you're not a Midwest kid, so it would.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Okay, you're making me feel better, thank you.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
True. True, But we actually went over this because I
used the exactly I'm.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Sure you did. But one here are the other?

Speaker 1 (21:28):
What bottle of jack was best in that ad? That
just showed well, it's not even on anymore.

Speaker 2 (21:33):
And I think she can tell us, well, let me
tell you jack is not good, So Holly, it was
gentleman's Jack.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
Okay, all right, moving on. Josh is in Ohio. Josh,
welcome to Cavino and Rich.

Speaker 8 (21:44):
Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
In nineteen ninety four, my brother comes home from the
Dayton Mall. He was in Athlete's Foot and he said, man,
I heard this new great group. They sing a song
called Player's Ball group named Alcas out of Atlanta, and
ever since then they've just been this entered a southern
hip hop to me. And then the song hey Yeah
and the Way You Move comes out and my my

(22:07):
uncle has called me about it, and it's just like,
no way I put in the time I put it
in alien thank odea equimin I like, you're you're not
allowed to like them there and fitting enough their name
is Outcasts.

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So could you imagine your uncle buying one of their
old CDs, like you know, the the art on the CDs,
just there's no way, there's absolutely.

Speaker 6 (22:29):
No one for him.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
What's he burned? That is great?

Speaker 2 (22:36):
That is great, perfect example.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yes, yes, I can totally see it too. When I
Outcast was popular for me in college. For I wasn't
a huge Outcast fans, but I had friends who were.
And that is exactly correct. I think when you're a
young person, that's your genre at that time. But then
they became totally mainstream and you're like, Okay, well that's
not the outcast that we're listening to. Yes, Jason, Massachusetts,

(22:59):
Welcome to on Rich Jay. What's up?

Speaker 9 (23:02):
Hey, what's going on?

Speaker 6 (23:02):
Guys?

Speaker 10 (23:03):
Love the show?

Speaker 11 (23:03):
Thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Thank you.

Speaker 11 (23:06):
I just wanted to weigh in on the whole band
wagon sand thing, just to give you a quick rundown.
I'm forty eight years old. I've been a Washington fan NFL.
I don't know if I can say it, but a
Redskins fan I was about since I was about nine
or ten.

Speaker 9 (23:20):
Years old, and now everyone is jumping on the Jayden
Daniels bandwagon and it's rubbing me the wrong way. Every
time I go on social media, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, Facebook,
seeing all these people hyping up the Redskins or the Commanders,
and it just really gets under my skin because they
don't know what it's like to suffer.

Speaker 11 (23:40):
I'm from mass I.

Speaker 9 (23:41):
Was forced fed to be a Patriots fan. Couldn't do it,
never did.

Speaker 11 (23:46):
I had an uncle who is a Cowboys fan. Used
to be big into the Cowboys versus the.

Speaker 9 (23:50):
Indians, fell in love with the Redskins.

Speaker 11 (23:52):
Been there ever since.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
And yeah, he's want to be Commanders fan, need to.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Go away exact. That's perfect what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yes, we are like Kindred Spirits day because that's exactly
what it is. And Washington did have a great fan base.
They had RFK rockin the stadium would move because of
how crappy the bleachers were in the temporary stands that
they had in certain spots, like there was the it was.
It was great. It was a great atmosphere. But it
has been since they beat Buffalo in Super Bowl twenty six.

(24:24):
It's been thirty three years since they won a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
That was a great call just because recent the Commanders
went down very down with the whole owner thing, like
everyone saw how depressed that fan base was. And then
to get Jayden Daniels, it's such a quick turnaround. I
hear what he's saying. I think he actually helped your argument.
Now I'm understanding it more. Yeah, now I'm understanding. I'm
getting it.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Yeah, it's not just me, he's it's he's a fan
of a team that's not in his state. But the
Stayed is a popular team, yes, yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (24:54):
Then it has a trending rookie quarterback like and imagine
you never see your team on social media be talked
to out and now all you see is people talking
about your rookie quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
In nineteen ninety seven, I went to go watch the
Seahawks play the Colts. This is a pre Payton Manning
Colts team, okay, and there were there were not twelves
lining up in the RCA Dome. It was not I
really I felt like I was one of the only
Seahawks fans actually there. There weren't even a lot of
Colts fans for this game, but it was you know,

(25:27):
looking back at that time, and I even talk about
the Super Bowl years because so much is made about
the Super Bowl that the Seahawks played against the Steelers
and the officiating, But what also people talk about is
how it was basically a home game for Pittsburgh. But
if you fast forward eight years later when you have
Denver and Seattle playing in New York, which isn't even
farther trip. I mean, there were a lot of Seahawks

(25:47):
fans of that game, but they weren't. They didn't make
the trip to Detroit in their first ever appearance, So
you know, that's the point for me, that's even just
tough to get past. Bill's in Michigan. Bill, welcome to
Cavino and Rich what's going on?

Speaker 12 (26:00):
Hey, thanks for taking my call.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
I appreciate it.

Speaker 12 (26:04):
So I live in the upper Peninsula of Michigan, where
there are more Packer fans and Lions fans. I've been
a line fan my whole life. The horrors I've seen,
but you know, Barry Sanders retiring early, the Calvin Johnson
rule for that, getting tackled at Thanksgiving, and then Schwartz
throwing the flag and they can't review it because there

(26:25):
it's a penalty. Now the batting out of the back
of the end zone in Seattle, Dallas marking off past
interference with Pedigrew, They're ready to run a play, and
now all of a sudden, no, it's not a penalty.
We're going to back it up. Then Detroit loses the
playoff game, and people are you know, I go into
all these games with a sense of realism, and we

(26:48):
have a defense that's beat to hell, and I just
have people telling you, guys, you're going to you know
you're gonna kill the Bears. You know you're gonna be
fine against San Francisco, like you don't like, you don't
get it. People calling me at halftime during the Chainampionship
game last year and I was like, please don't call
me again, like football, and we all know how that went. Yes,
So I think it. I don't know if it's a

(27:09):
resentment thing, but it's like you you obviously you haven't
seen these things that I've seen growing up.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
Yeah, Like the the only thing that my Seahawks fans
like really like the drama is the interception at the
one yard line. You know, like that, but that's bad enough,
but you don't have like the history. Like as bad
as that play is the history, here's a Lions fan
that just rattled off seven plays that I think half
the country don't even know existed. The Brandon Pettigrew play

(27:38):
is actually interesting because it screwed the Lions in a
game that the Cowboys won. The next week, Dallas was
screwed because of des Bryant and the catch against the Packers.
Packers won. The next week. The Packers went to Seattle
and then the Packers were kind of screwed because they
couldn't recover an onside kick and Seattle came back late,

(27:59):
and then Seattle wins overtime and then goes to the
Super Bowl, and then the Seahawks throw an interception at
the one yard line. So that whole playoff run had
all these controversial and huge moments, like stretching all the
way back to that wild card game that he just.

Speaker 2 (28:12):
Talked about the encyclopedia, that the encyclopedia that you are
Dan is unreal.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Well it's I know. I'm not Steve Hartman.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
The hamster will didn't stop there. I would have broken
down already.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
No, I'm starting to join your side. You know what
I just realized because of the new Clipper fans, tickets
are more expensive.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
I used to be able to watch a Clipper game
for twelve dollars. Now I can't do it. So you're right,
I'm joining the side. I'm joining the dark side. You're right.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
TV shows, bands, sports teams. That happens. Tim's in Texas? Tim,
is it a band? TV show sports team? What do
you got?

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (28:51):
Tim's mad connection A Sorry about that. Tim God, he
was so fired up too. I think he was hauling
something too. I bet you he was in West Texas
on his way to I'll Passo right now. Sorry, Tim,
Let's go to South Dakota. Charles is there, Charles, what's happening?

Speaker 10 (29:07):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. Have a happy New Year,
you two.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
You love Charles.

Speaker 10 (29:12):
So, my team is the Kansas City Chiefs, and I've
been a fan forever. And when I say that, I
watched Super Bowl four on my grandmother's color TV, one
of those, one of those big ones, the console, and
I remember the peacock, you know, it's the color flash

(29:33):
through the television set. But it doesn't bother me so
much that, uh, there are new fans because of my homes,
because we never really had a whole lot of fans.
What bothers me and what bothers my son even more,
is that everybody thinks that we're bandwagon people. Yeah, and

(29:55):
that's not the case at all. Yeah, start talking Chief's
history with somebody who who is on the bandwagon. They
don't have a clue.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
I'm right there with you. Unintended consequences. It's why I
just started to rattle off old Seahawks quarterbacks, Yeah, because
I remember them to show you, to prove exactly what
Charles is saying.

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, I have a friend who lives here who is
a Chiefs fan from Missouri, and so people like try
to talk smack to him at the bar because they
think he's a bandwagoner, and then he just goes off
on them. He's like, no, no, no, I live here now,
but I'm I've been a cheese fan since I literally
came out of the womb, you know. So that's and
the Chiefs are a perfect example because they do probably
have a ton of bandwagon fans with their no doubt,

(30:37):
there's no.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Doubt, absolutely, just like the Patriots fan.

Speaker 6 (30:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Yeah, we had Jay calling earlier from Massachusetts the same thing.
All right, let's wrap it up. Steve's in Wisconsin. Steve,
welcome to Cavino and rich Band TV show Sports team.
What is it?

Speaker 6 (30:55):
And Mary?

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Mary's a homie, Mary absolutely, what's up?

Speaker 7 (31:01):
Mainly, just wanted to call and give a shout out
to that Hall of Fame broadcaster Dan Byer broadcasting hometown
on baseball for the Sofbury Twins in Sockburry, Wisconsin. My
hometown shout out, Dan Byer, Thank you, Steve.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Yes, I did Sock Prairie Eagle Baseball for in softball
for a Yes, for a season.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
That's precious it was.

Speaker 1 (31:23):
It was great.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
Is that your cousin?

Speaker 1 (31:26):
No, I know, I trust me. You'd know my family.
Sock City, the home of Culvers where the first culvers was. Yes,
Sock Prairie, it's about well, now there's a four lane
that you know connects it, but there's probably about you know,
thirty minutes northwest of Madison. Absolutely spend many a time there. Thanks, Steve.
Going to end it. If you'd like to call in

(31:48):
and call me a Hall of Fame broadcaster, I'll give
you my personal number. She's wants blanios, I'm Dan Byer.
Let's go to Isaac Longkrown for the latest. All right,
you got any bandwigon issues? Or do you just want
to call me and tell me I'm a Hall of
Fame broadcasterriing you can do either even better?

Speaker 4 (32:03):
I have the Netflix viewership. Oh boy ready yes, Chiefs
Steelers average audience twenty four point one million.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Geez wow.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
Ravens Texans average audience twenty four point three million. The
Beyonce Bowl Beyonce's halftime show over twenty seven million viewers.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Wow, I was wrong.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
And the total unduplicated audience nearly sixty five million viewers
in the United States. Wow, those numbers just is good.

Speaker 1 (32:43):
I honestly thought numbers would be down. I'm wrong, like
most of my NFL picks this year.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
And hang on, let me see there's one other line
in the NFL press release. Oh yeah, take that. Lebron
is how they pined up the press release anyway. Philadelphia
Eagles quarterback Jalen Hurtz did not practice today. He remains
in concussion protocol. Their number two quarterback Kenny Pickett, who's
dealing with a rib injury, was a full participant in
practice today. We've been checking in on something called the

(33:12):
Game Above Sports Bowl throughout the day at Ford Field
in Detroit. Toledo taking on Pitt and sort of a
nondescript bowl, but they're having a classic ending right now.
They are in the sixth overtime and Toledo thought they'd
won it twice. In the fourth overtime, they were forty
four to forty two. They stopped a two point conversion

(33:34):
try by Pitt. They started celebrating on the field, storming
the field, overturned by a holding penalty. Then they stopped
a pit quarterback sneak. They celebrated again. They stormed the
field again that was turned into a touchdown by instant replay.
So they thought they'd won the game twice. They did
not win the game twice. Right now, Toledo up forty

(33:56):
eight to forty six in the sixth over time and
Pitt will have a chance to extend the game of
moments from now.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
Guys, do they just not allow defense at Ford fields?
That looked like the rule No one can play defense here?
My goodness, Hey, this is what the Bowl games are
all about. If they're gonna lessen in value at least
their Upton excitement. She is Monzy Bloonho. So I'm Dan
Bayer hit isaacup at Isaac lowincron on x Monty and
I are in for Covino and Rich here on Fox

(34:24):
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Speaker 1 (34:37):
If you Know and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.
I'm Dan Byer. She's Moncey Blago sitting in for if
you know and Rich who are doing the Dan Patrick Hatrick,
myself and Carrie Rhodes will be in for the guys. Tomorrow,
Monzy gets a deserved day off, much deserved day off.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
I can't believe I have a day off.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
How about that.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
I feel weird when I have days off, though, Like I.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Take this moment to recognize all of you. It showed
up to work on December twenty six. Yeah, congratulations on
doing it. There's nothing, there's nothing worse. I always feel
that there's this ultimate letdown on January second, and I
always felt it when school resumed from January first. And

(35:23):
it's why I have this almost a Pavlov response to
the Sugar Bowl, because all of the homework that I
was supposed to do over Christmas break or the book
I was supposed to read over the week and a
half or two weeks off, I needed to somehow make
up during the Sugar Bowl because it was the last
game on the television schedule. So when you see the

(35:43):
game in New Orleans, like that would be me in
front of the TV being like, crap, I've got school tomorrow.
I didn't do anything over these two weeks, and then
January second back at school was like this, Oh and
I can't. I can't. I can't necessarily like I can't
talk comparisons to December twenty sixth, because there is still

(36:04):
a New Year's holiday and people will be off New
Year's next week, so you have that coming up. But
I feel that there is a bit of a weird
feeling when you show up to work today, if you
don't have if you've taken off, if you've taken the
week off, if your place is closed down the office.
You don't know what this feels like. But there are
a lot of employers that are like, our, right, we'll
give you Christmas Eve off and Christmas Day off, but
you're here on Monday and you're back on Thursday.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
Deal with it, right, It's a weird It lands in
the middle of the week, which is not ideal. So
I hear what you're saying, like wanting what you're gonna
go work for today, and maybe they're taking tomorrow off,
so it's like you have to work maybe one day
in the middle of all of this that. Yeah, I
would not like that.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Christmas on a Friday is actually the best. Yes, it is,
because you get Christmas Eve on Thursday, which you will
get off.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
You'll get off. Yes, you get an early day Wednesday likely.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Yeah, it's like a half weekend. It's just like whatever,
and then you've got the whole next week of the
gap and a lot of people if you got to
go back to work on Monday, so you've just had
four days off. You don't have the hangover of Christmas
because he had Saturday and Sunday. But that's the best
way to really work it out and go through it.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
It's true, It's true. I you know again, I don't
even know what data is. You guys, it's all blur.

Speaker 3 (37:14):
It's all a blur.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Jason Stewart, are you on board with this?

Speaker 5 (37:17):
I do have kind of a letdown right after Christmas.
And this is no offense of those that don't celebrate Christmas,
but I'm just saying that there's this there's this massive
build up, what now a six week build up, and
you go through the holiday seasons and you you purchase
all the gifts and you do all the traditions, and
then it just goes to nothing. So to me, there

(37:40):
is a little bit of a of a letdown the
day afterwards. I have to kind of cope with that.
But I came to work anyways, and you guys have
brightened my spirits, so I appreciate all that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
I can to tell my son that there aren't going
to be presents tomorrow, you know, like this is this
is it. And he's three and a half, so he
doesn't undersgrasp the calendar as of yet. So when you
say Christmas is next year, he has no idea on
the concept of when next year is. He thinks could
be next week or his or his birthday or when

(38:12):
he gets when he gets presents. But like for this
to be it, like this is over, Like there's nobody's
showing up again with race cars and dinosaurs, Like that's
done for another six months. You know, that's a that's
a tough one. He's well grounded and he's got enough
dinos now and cars to play with. But that was
the that was the uh uh, sorry, buddy, No, this

(38:32):
is over. We're not waking up and opening presents again.
Sanna didn't return for night too, Like he's only here.
It's a one night only sort of deal. And he's
at that age where again he maybe thought that not
that he didn't get a lot, he just thought that
this was a continuous parade of presence.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Don't we all, brody, don't we all? I wish I
had more presents?

Speaker 1 (38:51):
Today, you do have a present Seahawks Bears.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
I'm so excited.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
It continues Week seventeen. Again, nothing for the Bears to
play for. Seahawks need to win this and because if
even if the if the Rams win on Saturday, Seattle
would still and the Seahawks win tonight, Seattle would still
be a game back of the Rams. But a win
against the Rams doesn't in Week eighteen doesn't give them
the division title because there's a strength of scheduled tiebreakers.

(39:20):
So Seattle, if Arizona would beat the Rams, that would
help them a lot. That would that would be that
would be a huge deal because Seattle has to win
these last two games to get into the postseason. But
the Seahawks actually need other things to happen if the
Rams win on Sunday and the Seahawks win tonight for
them to get a strength of schedule tiebreaker. The other
connection between the Seahawks and Bears is this rumor that

(39:40):
Pete Carroll is interested in the Bears coaching job.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
And I'll tell you what, Yeah, how do you feel
about that?

Speaker 1 (39:46):
I'd be fine with it, But I'll just say this,
the Bears fans wouldn't be They would have hired back
to back the only people who gave Shane Waldron an
offensive coordinator job, and they would have hired them. They
would have had them with Matt Eberflus and then Carol.
So I would say, don't go down that road. I
think Pete should just ride off into the sunset and
enjoy the fruits of being a super Bowl winning head coach.

(40:09):
No need to go to Chicago and do it again.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Retiring is hard. Maybe he's bored so he just wants
to come back.

Speaker 1 (40:15):
No people can jump on the Bears bandwagon. Yeah, he
goes there. She's Monty, I'm Dance Cavino and Rich on Fox.
Talk to you later.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Bye.
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