December 27, 2024 • 36 mins
Dan and Kerry filling in for C&R as they share what NFL teams have fooled them the most this season. Kerry and Dan discuss Hall of Famer Eric Dickerson's comments about Saquon Barkley and whether or not Eric wants Barkley to break his rushing record. The guys have takes on the latest situation with Eagles head coach Nick Sirianni.
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three six ' nine. You brought up the Pittsburgh Steelers
and maybe they should have just thought that maybe they
should have just stuck with Justin Fields, that he could
have led them to the ten and six record that
they have right now. You also would have got a
better view on how Justin Fields is for your future
and the long term possibility is him as a starting quarterback.
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I think they made the right move in going back
to Russell Wilson. I think it made them a better team.
And the reason that I feel that way is the
reason for this next segment. Kerry Rhodes. It's not that
I believed in Russell Wilson as much as I did, because,
again as a Seahawks fan, I saw some of Russell
Wilson's wartz. He was great for the franchise, the greatest
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quarterback they've ever had with that team, There's no doubt
about it. But in his last last year suvered a
finger injury. There were other kind of warning signs, and
then we saw what happened with Russell Wilson and Denver
and it wasn't working out. So I don't think Russell
Wilson was the end all fix all for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
But in the middle of the season, they had me convinced.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They really did.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It was this reclamation project. It's not only is it
Russell Wilson, it's Justin Fields comes in, your guy that
you felt should have been the starter, and they've carved
out a.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Role for him.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So they've figured out a way to make it work
with two guys. Arthur Smith comes in as the offensive
coordinator and kind of takes the stink off of his
tenure with the Atlanta Falcons, and you're looking at look
at what Arthur Smith has been doing with Russell Wilson
and Justin Fields and with Najie Harris, with Jalen Warren,
George Pickens, and then you had that defense, and that
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defense led by TJ. Watt, Cameron Hayward. I thought the
Steelers were legit. I thought that they were a defensive
football team that had enough on offense where they could
make plays and be dangerous. And I'm always looking at
what teams can go to Kansas City, What teams can
go to Buffalo, What team could go to Baltimore and
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win a football game if need be? Because those are
your prime competitions, your prime competitors in the AFC, And
I have questions about Buffalo's defense, I still do. I
have questions about Baltimore's defense. I don't have any questions
about the Chiefs. But right up there with the Chiefs,
it was the Pittsburgh Steelers, And so I believed in
the Pittsburgh Steelers in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I believe that they.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Could go to Buffalo if they won the AFC North
and knock off the Bills and go to the AFC
Championship game against the Kansas City Chiefs. And now they're
going to limp into the playoffs as a wild card,
and I'm not sure they're going to be able to
get anything done in this postseason window. So even though
they qualified for the postseason, I expected more from them.
I expected them to make a run and be a factor,
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and they have not lived up to the expectation that
I did not have pre season. It was only during
the season, but they had me convinced enough. It's like
the Falcons a few years ago, I could never put
my finger on, and in fact, I can't even put
my finger on the Minnesota Vikings this year. Right when
I think they're great and unstoppable, they lose a couple
of games. So I jump off and say, no, it's
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not going to happen. Then they go and win, and
then they pull out this win against Arizona, and then
they beat my Seahawks. And I've never gotten a feel
for Minnesota despite them being thirteen and two this year.
But Pittsburgh fooled me. I thought Pittsburgh had the defense
and they had enough on offense in this late season.
I don't want to call it a collapse, but it
sure hasn't been good. This three game losing streak has
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made the Pittsburgh Steelers fool me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Thank you for not saying to collapse, Dan, because I
think that's the normal word that people would say when
you start off where you are and then you fall
to where you are now, the same over teeth all year.
So to say a collapse is kind of harsh, but
to kind of piggyback on what you're saying, what you're
saying right now, the joke these heart jokes and these
heart lessons to a lot of us. During the season,
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we go through peaks and valleys with teams and with players.
We have players playing stretches where you're like, Oh, this
guy's the MVP or this guy is the next Joe
Montet or whatever the thing week, Yeah, and then you're
like two three weeks later, he's the worst player in
the league. So I think with any situation when it
comes to a long season like the NFL, is being
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able to temper the climate, the temperature in the room
and be the adult in the room. It's always a
smart thing because these teams are ever evolving and things
are going to change. Players are going to get hurt,
other guys are going to get better, and so when
it comes to these teams, man, it's always hard to
pick them. And and you know, we live in a
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business where we have to make predictions, we have to
make claims and takes. It's always going to be one
of these situations. So Pittsburgh's your team, huh was?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
There was a point again that I thought, I don't
want to face them. If I'm the Chiefs, I wouldn't
want to see Pittsburgh on the other sideline. And then
we saw what happens when Kansas City and Pittsburgh plays
on Christmas Day without Chris Jones.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
By the way, I know one team that wouldn't want
to face them that would be one of the top
season that probably would be the only team would be
Baltimore because they're in the division. Yeah, we play each
other twice a year, and it's always scary, right, Yeah,
it's always always that with Steelers and Ravens.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not saying that Carrie admits, never admits that he's wrong.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that
Carrie just holds out that is his point or his
take could still be true. Because we had this Russell
Wilson Justin Field's argument during our Red Zone show, and
I felt like I won because Russell Wilson didn't take over,
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and then they had success, and so I just thought
this was a done deal. And then he ends up
coming up today and saying like, see, they should have
stuck with Justin Fields trying to hold on to his
point that he made in Week two of the NFL season.
But if I were say that maybe you were wrong,
or a team disappointed you or in the word that
I used, fooled. Yeah, is there an NFL team that
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fooled you this year at least at some point during
the season or entering the season. That's just either you
thought were gonna stink and they were great or the
opposite where maybe they aren't as good as you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Would have hoped that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, the obvious for me is the Jets, right, And
I know, ah, yes, yeah, yeah, I didn't want to
go to the board. I didn't want to go there,
but yeah, obviously, I mean, you come into a year
where you supposedly have twenty all pros, I mean coming
into the season and let people talk about it, right,
like you have the names, you have the flash, or
in New York, you have a quarterback coming back off
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of injury that's going to make this team better because
they already have the other pieces in play. And we
look at this and we talk about Chicago, right, they
have everything in play, We have all these players, you
have the positions filled. Cool, But when you don't have
a GM and a head coach is on the same page,
and in this case, you can even take it to
another extension and you talk about the actual owner of
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this team, to think that you know, there's reports coming
out about him not wanting to take Jerry Judy because
it's Madden rating. Like when those things come out, it's
it's a little absurd. So this will be the most
disappointing team in the league by far off of their
talent alone. And I don't see I don't see a
solution to this problem coming anytime soon unless Woody steps
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away from that team. And so that's kind of where
I am. So the biggest it's disappointment for Carrie Rhodes
as a New York Jets le.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Jets fooled you, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
See now carry took my things, Like, give me some
time to think of mine.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The reason why I think that they're the biggest disappointment
is because Dan and I before the season, we read
the Aaron Rodgers book or listen to uh huh, listen
to Aaron Rodgers book by what's his face? What's the
name of the author there O'Connor. Yeah, And like by
the end of the book, I was just so like
pulling for him to win it all this year. Yeah,
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and it wasn't because of the comeback of coming back
from the injury. That's a big that's a big deal.
But yeah, you just get this sense that he wants
that ultimate like FU to everybody who's been down on
him since the COVID comment. Ok, yeah, almost like that
it would be like this social comeback like and not
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that people would embrace him. I think a lot of
people root against him still.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
But me being kind of the naysayer and also a
fan of Aaron Rodgers, I was really hoping for him
personally to win it all this season. And the Jets
are a mess for a lot of reasons, and I
think you could say the play of Aaron Rodgers is
one of them. That's the problem. I don't think any
of us saw that coming right right.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think that there were questions on how you would
respond from an achilles injury at forty years old, turning
forty one, like he did earlier this month. I think
that those things were legit. There was no guarantee, because
there was no guarantee that Kirk Cousins would be able
to come back from that sort of injury. So I
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believed in the Jets enough to pick them to win
the division. You did, I will I will say that,
So I'm not trying to be all high in Mighty,
but there were questions. I felt that their defense was
good enough that when you have Bryce Hall, and at
the beginning of the year, we didn't know that they
would have DeVante Adams, right, and honestly, it really wasn't
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even much of a conversation like the Devanta Adams stuff
transpired within the season, But I just I thought they
would have enough, and we thought that Buffalo was maybe
going to take a step back right without Stefan Diggs
and Gabe Davis and who the weapons were going to
be in Buffalo. So I thought it was there for
the Jets for the taking, where Aaron Rodgers just had
to be eighty percent of Aaron Rodgers and that he
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would be good enough. But that wasn't the case. It
felt like he's about fifty percent Aaron Rodgers from what
you're saying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you know the other part about that is and
then you see, now he is pretty healthy, right the
last five five games or so, he's hurt. Now, he's
hurt now, but yes, but before this injury last game,
he was on the streak of what eight touchdowns and
no interceptions and looking like he was fine. Again too late,
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too little, too late, obviously, but it's almost that point
of it. You dangle the carrot in front of the
of the fans and us and the people that are
still enamored with Aaron Rodgers, and you say, oh, see,
he still can't do it if he's healthy. And that's
the other thing. Now, it's like, do you really want
to bring him back again one more year and draft
a quarterback? Or do you move on completely from all
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the stink that you just had the last.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Couple of years. Yeah, I think he got to move on.
I don't think that he's gonna play again. I don't
know why you'd want to. You're forty You're gonna be
forty two the next year. You weren't even particularly good
this year. What team is going to want you? What
team is that it is going to be able to
protect you and give you enough weapons to be successful,
is going to want you? I just I don't see
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that best offensive line in the NFL's probably in Detroit.
They don't need a quarterback. You know another, top offensive
lines in Philadelphia, they don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I just, yeah, it's just not about Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I know you got Michael Penox obviously.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean yeah, they have Michael Pennocks. Here's the answer. Yeah,
there's the answer.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I said it when I when I said it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's all right, it's our don't worry about it, Chris Perfetts.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I think real fast before you guys move on, is
I think what I want to ask Carrie? Are you
going to let the Jets fool you again? That's all
I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Do with me.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, no, no, no, I don't get easily.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'll tell you don't want to know where this this
topic started from. It was the Steelers conversation. But do
you ever watch the fool Penn and Teller Show? Have
you ever seen that?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Oh that's a great one.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah on c W. I haven't seen.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I think it's uh fool me. I think yeah, it's
it's like magicians and.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Pedal Teller fool us because there's a big fu for
fool us. But it's and so you have all these
magicians come on stage and they present their tricks, and
Penn and Teller will they will not reveal how the
trick was done, but they will say did you fool
them by doing the tricks?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
This is like shark Tank for magicians.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I have seen it.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, it's one of those shows that honestly was on
once and I'm like, I don't know if this is
from two thousand and seven or if this is like
a current show and it's a current show and it's
actually pretty good. It is pretty entertaining. Do you have
a team that fooled you this year, Chris Prophett.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I might have an entire state that fooled me, and
that's Florida. Like so, I never really bought into the
Miami Dolphins, but I felt like this could probably be
the year that, like, you know, this is all right,
I can kind of see it and like, look, there's
still an aside chance that might meet the playoffs, but
I'm going to take that chance away from them. But
every year, I feel like we do this with two
where he just goes out there and somehow gets hurt
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again and the team goes on the road and has
these abominabal road games. So I'm kind of done with them.
Jaguars even worse than I thought they would be. And
I think that's the big question for me right now
is have I finally been fooled for the last time
by Trevor Lawrence by this entire Jaguars organization where every
year I'm like, this looks like this should be able
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to step up in a weak AFC South, and then
they just crater And this one is even worse than ever.
And I know Trevor Lawrence is shut down for the
season everything, but they weren't exactly They were having this
losing streak with Trevor Lawrence at the helm too. It's abysmal.
And then the last piece of it might be the
most painful because I really did, up until this past
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Monday Night football or a Sunday night, I believe it was,
when they played the Cowboys, thought the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
were a very dangerous NFC playoff team even with their injuries,
even losing Chris Godwin. And I don't know how to
process that Dallas Cowboys loss.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I still think they might get into the playoffs over
the Falcons. But good lord, I think this is the
limit of Todd Bowles coaching this team right now. It's
absurd for.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Someone who covers the Lions like you do. The Buccaneers
beat him earlier this year and played them in a
pretty good game of the Divisional playoff line.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And beat the Eagles and beat the Eagles too. They
have wins over the top two NFC teams.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But I can understand why you would also say, man,
these Buccaneers, I can't figure them out, like I thought
that they were legit, and then they go and lose
to the Dallas Cowboys who are playing for their head coach.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The Miami one is an interesting one though, because of
I think you could be fooled by them again.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
To everyone does.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Everyone gets fooled every year by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But it's a specific point of Tua. Obviously, it's the
health situation, because when he's in, they win, and so
I could see why you would be fooled by that.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Can I tell you what I think the biggest I'm
gonna tell you anyway, the question this is what's so
intriguing about the Dolphins moving forward, is because they have
a heck of a running back in Devana Chan, an
electric running back, and Tyreek Hill is not Tyreek Hill anymore,
at least the way that they've used him, or they
figured out a way to defend him. So now if
here Miami, who again does not beat teams that are
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better than they are, they can't do that for some reason.
Do you now change your thinking? Is it now about
a chan in the running game. Do we now transition
that way, or is it still let's have Tua throw
it around to Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, John new Smith,
the whole deal. I actually think they should. Probably if
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Mike McDaniel is it, Kyle Shanahan disciples, maybe you think
a little bit more about relying on the running game
than you do airing it out with those other guys.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And I think that's what gets lost in translation with
that offense. Even when it was at its most explosive,
they were centered around a running game. A lot of
their stuff was stretch runs. They would get it to
those guys, those fast running backs in space. Even the
passing game was short. It wasn't it'll be short, short, short,
and you take a shot with Tyreek Hill. But there
was balance in that offense. Right now, it's not man
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when you throw the ball the way they do with Tua,
he's also going to make them thanks and he and
putting them in a sense Western is not good for them.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Well, if you can't take shots, nobody thinks that you're
gonna take a shot. So that's why you're throwing passes
to John hus Smith twelve times a game.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He stepped up as any fantasy player with know Jason
Stewart and Schotine league that he is still alive in
with John.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I didn't even know that. Thank you for reminding me
that I'm in your league.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're still it.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, I'm dominating Dan's league, and I feel like he
holds it against me. In fact, he tells me out
loud that he's rooting for my opponent to win.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's a real weird dynamic, is yea?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
This is this is what happens with Jason is because
he outlasted me in all these contests, and then he
keeps reminding me about it by telling me how his
team is doing when I've been eliminated, So then I
where and so so I'm eliminated, and so I don't
care anymore. But then last year in an NFL Survivor league,
he got knocked out in like week four, and I
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went to like week twelve and no one asked me
about it for like two months. He's like, I completely
forgot about it. You know, That's all that there is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
He's not an equal opportunity giver and guess.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
He's been he's been like on fire though like he
truly has. He's had some he's just been on fire.
We'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Crazy luck, crazy luck. Just for the record, though, carry
you said that you're going to allow the Dolphins to
fool you again one more time. Okay, my team, my
team is this. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna flip this
on it said for you guys. It's fooled me in
a positive way, and this is going to be a
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passion play. In fact, tell Scott Shapiro, I'm going to
do the next ninety seconds for free. This is a
passion play. Coming into the year, when Jim Harbaugh got
the job of the Chargers as my team, I was
fully willing to give him a year. We can punt
this year if you win two games, but you are
able to eventually bring your own guys and still a culture.
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I will punt on the twenty twenty four season. I
had zero expectations coming in. Yeah, so every single thing
they've done has been gravy, including this week. You know,
we got our running back back, and I think that
there's a good chance that we solidify a playoff spot,
so much better than I thought it would be. So
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they've the Chargers fooled me, and that they typically let
me down. We talked about ownership and stuff. They've never
put this much faith or money into a head coach,
and it's just such a it's a delightful surprise. It's
been so positive and I'm really enjoying it immensely. So
thank you for those last ninety seconds.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Dan Jets, Steelers, Chargers, and I'm just going to draw
the entire state of Florida Panhandle first and then we'll
go down for our is that I know it's not necessary,
it's close. Maybe the panhandle needs to be shorter.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That is a pistol.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It does not look like what you think. It looks like.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
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It's Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
carry Rhodes the All Pro I'm Dan Bayer. In there
Saquon Barkley's quest for the nfl A rushing title. I
mentioned Kenny Pickett going to be starting for the Philadelphia
Eagles coming up against the Cowboys in week seventeen. Now
Saquon Barkley one eight thirty eight yards away, getting closer
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and closer to the record by Eric Dickerson for the
all time singles season rushing record and then speaking with
the La Times, Eric Dickerson says, and I'm paraphrasing, yeah,
I hope he doesn't get the record. He wants it himself.
Dickerson twenty one five that he did in nineteen eighty four,
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did it in sixteen games. Barkley right now at eighteen
thirty eight, as I mentioned, is done so through fifteen games.
But Dickerson told the La Times quote, I don't think
he'll break it, but if he breaks it, he breaks
it the way I want him to break it. Absolutely not.
I don't pull no punches on that. But I'm not
whining about it. He had seventeen games to do it. Hey,
football is football. That's the way I look at it.
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If he's fortunate to get over two thousand yards and
get the record, and get the record.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's a great record to have end quotes.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I love the comment by Eric Dickerson. That's just
his truth. And the other truth around this is there's
an extra game. There's seventeen games, So I could see
why he would say what he said. I don't think
it takes away from the incredible year that say Kwan
Barkley's having.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Had, But he had an extra game to do it.
And that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I'm for Eric Dickerson to have this record as
long as he has, with all these talented runners that
have come. Man, it is a sacred it's a sacred thing,
and so I do understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
So there's two things at play here. Number One, Dickerson
broke Ojy's record with more games. Oj had it in
fourteen games when he had two thousand. Dickerson broke into
the fifteenth game, and then through the entire nineteen eighty
four season just finishes with twenty one oh five. That
was his final total, but it did take him fifteen
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games to do it. That's that's the part where I
don't I think when we hear Eric Dickerson doesn't want
Sae Kwon Barkley to break the record. I don't think
Eric Dickerson is saying. I think Eric Dickerson still wants
to be relevant. That's what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,
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I was gonna try to be all wordy and you know,
try to, but he just wants to be relevant with it.
I don't think it's it's fair bringing up the game numbers,
considering again, he needed more to break OJ. And if
he's saying, oh, if he does it in seventeen games,
it's not the same as mine, well, yours wasn't the
same as OJ.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
We get down to brass tacks.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's Eric Dickerson just still wants to be relevant, and honestly,
I don't I can't hate that. Yeah, you know, records
were made to be broken. It's the nice thing to say.
But to still be known as the all time rushing
leader when you know you're walking around every now and then,
there's still some ego in every athlete, and that's what
I think Eric Dickerson wants hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't think I mean, I don't think he's even
talking about you know, the fourteen fifteen games, right, there
was an allotment of sixteen games like he played sixteen
games at that time. So if you're a healthy enough
to play fourteen and fifteen, that's fine. This situation, you
actually have an extra game, and if he plays in
all seventeen, which he has, there is for me a
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little asterisk beside that as far as, like you said,
Eric Dickerson wants he's held their record for so long
for it to be taken away from him at this
point because of an extra game that that's allowed to
be played. I understand that as well.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I am curious in your opinion on this. Yeah, because
I told you there's two things at play here. Do
you think it's more difficult now to get two thousand
yards or easier to get two thousand yards?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think it's easier in the way that offenses spread
you out and so there are more lanes to run.
And if you have an offense that you know, you
obviously have a quarterback that's a dual threat guy, those
lanes are even bigger. So I think it could be
easier in the standpoint of that, just you know, for
that reason alone. But everything's I mean, everything is hard
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to achieve, and when it's a number like this, it's
still and it's still super impressive.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think it's much more easier to get a thousand
yard or two thousand yards, not because of the game factor,
it's because of how the NFL is nowadays. You need
to get after the quarterback, you need to stop the quarterback,
you need to put pressure on the quarterback. So all
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of your resources likely are being put on the defensive
line to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know what that means, They're not there to get
after the running back.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And I think that back in the nineteen eighties and
nineteen nineties, and I'm not sure if it's I feel
like your era maybe was blending because we were in
the transition from you know what would be the the
Emmett Smith sort of days to now where we are
relying so much on the quarterback. But now if you
just give your running back enough, I don't think it's
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necessarily Like the biggest coincidence that we've seen Derrick Henry
of the numbers that he has, that Saquon Barkley had
these numbers, you know that Chris Johnson when he did it,
you know, a decade or so ago, whenever it was
I think now it's easier to do so because defenses
aren't constructed a way to stop the run.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I'll push back on it being easier to get two
thousand yards by saying, with the point that you just said,
I would say it's I would say it's actually harder
than that. And just in the scenario that you brought up,
because a lot of teams don't feature that one back anymore.
They do it by committee, and so for one guy
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to get the two thousand yards, that would be impressive
if it happens to that regard.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Eric Dickerson in eighty four, twenty one oh five, twenty twelve,
Adrian Peterson twenty ninety seven, two thousand and three, Jamal
Lewis twenty sixty six, Barry Sanders in ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
That's the EMMITTT.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Smith era that I'm talking about, twenty fifty three. Derreck
Henry did it four years ago in twenty twenty, twenty
twenty seven. Then there's Treel Davis in nineteen ninety eight,
got two thousand and eight, Chris Johnson two thousand and nine,
and then OJ's two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So of the.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Nine that are there, four of those have come in
the two thousands in two thousands and were about to
maybe have another one. Whether he breaks sticker sins or not,
he still can get to two thousand yards and to
get to that point. Yeah, And that's you know, that's
why I think it's actually easier, just because if you
do have that guy. Yeah, and we've seen teams commit
(27:23):
to it in the NFL this year with Josh Jacobs,
with Joe Mixon, with Saquon Barkley, with Derrick Henry. When
you have that guy, just ride him. The two headed
monster is no longer there. And if those guys stay healthy,
then just keep on going.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The crazy thing about that is two years ago we
were just having a conversation about running backs not being important.
Remember that conversation, And I just when you look at
the you know, the pantheon of talent, running back talent
and the NFL, obviously there are horses and there are
guys that can do this, say Kwon's now and I
(27:59):
think in that group, but it's still very hard to
do and it's hard to have that guy be even
healthy enough to get through a season to accomplish this.
So it's a huge it's a huge accomplishment on his own.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Just having worked with Eric a little bit and know
him a little bit. I'm not name dropping. I literally
worked with the guy. I kind of know how he works,
and I know carry you could appreciate this. What did
we figure out when that whole Mark Gastono Brett Fara
thing earlier this year?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
How that record stuff impacts your bottom line? And I
love money. We all love money, but Eric really likes money.
And it works into what Dan is saying. The more
relevant you are, the more you could ask at the
trade shows. Blah blah blah. Sure it gets more impressive
that record. It was forty years with sixteen games. That's impressive,
But every year there's a seventeen game schedule, it gets
(28:50):
more impressive. And he could probably raise the raid a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
No, yeah, I think just signing the autograph, if you
do it, Eric Dickerson former, Yeah, single season rushing leader,
you know, number one, or just write twenty one oh
five and that that'd be your number instead of twenty nine.
You just write twenty one oh five and that says
it all.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
What about you? Right? What about you?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Your your current rushing all time leader? And he put
an asterisk sixteen games.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
How about that that will be difficult to fit on
a mini helmet, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Chris Perffett.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, I was just thinking about this, kind of bringing
our conversation forward back to where we started. Do you
think David Carr is like punching the air right now
that most sacks in a NFL season is no longer
the record holder for that?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Well, I think he's got Williams. No, I think he
still is. In fact, he last night. Yeah, he's still
the record holder. They showed this is what you brought
up Derek Carr earlier, and it popped into my mind.
They showed the graphic for most time sacked and Killer
Williams is now second or third behind cars record. David
Carr was on the list twice well in two and two,
(30:00):
two thousand and five, so he's got like one in
four locks.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, how far back to see from David Carr right
now because they still got a.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Game to go.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, you know, I can't remember what the number was.
I'm too busy looking up single season rushing leaders here.
But in the last in the last five seasons, what
we've had since Derrick Henry had twenty twenty seven yards
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, Jonathan Taylor at
eighteen hundred yards. Josh Jacobs led the NFL in rushing
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with sixteen fifty three thank Christian McCaffrey last year fourteen
fifty nine. But McCaffrey's not that he's a dual back.
I would I would say Saquan is as well, So
I shouldn't. I shouldn't say that, but I feel like
there's more of an effort to giving the ball to
Saquon Barkley to give it to Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry.
They are more running the ball guys instead of the
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dual guys out of the backfield. I just when you
look at the at the numbers, they do fluctuate over
the years. I just think now it's it's easier to
get it done because of those defense. But I understand
what you're saying. You're just not gonna have nine guys
doing it or nine guys, and back then, I feel
like we had Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders in a
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bunch of different running backs that could have gone for
for that record, And now.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, you have two guys realistic. Yeah, and probably one
and a half because Derek Henry has to be going
down at this point.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
He's carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Bayer. Jason Stewart's here, so
is Chris Purfett.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
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Speaker 3 (32:17):
I wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, tell him, Dan, tell him about it, because you're
a big fan of what I received as well, so
I wanted to share that.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I was actually hoping that you would because I was
wind off and just walking down the hallway quickly and
grabbing my stuff. But he got an official red Ryder
BB gun from the Christmas Story. Yes, absolutely, I was
so impressed by the gift. I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I'm not a good gift receiver, and so whenever I
do get something, that's usually thoughtful, which matters to me.
So the fact that they knew that that was one
of my favorite movies and one of the biggest things
in my young adolescent life and now in my adult life,
it was pretty pretty impressive. So I was impressed.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I don't know if Nick Sirianni has entered his adult
life yet, because the Eagles head coach is still still
being Nick Sirianni can headlines again like it all goes back.
There are so many Sirianni incidents. In the most recent one,
if you haven't heard, happened after the Commander's game with
former Eagles tight end Zach Ertz, who's now a member
(33:21):
of the Commanders. And has had a nice season. A
hard handshake or high five, if you will, one that
was too hard for Sirianni's liking, and so he went
back to zach Ertz and exchanged some words. Mocking is
his stat line. But it all goes back. It's not
just the Super Bowl, It's not it's it goes back
(33:42):
to when the Colts fired Frank Reich and Sirianni had
worked for frank Reich previously, and at the end of
the Eagles like just surviving a game against the Colts,
Nick Sirianni is tawning the Colts fans, who by the way,
had no interest in the game, that that was for
Frank Rych, like it was in their face, and it
just was like, this is not the messaging that I
(34:05):
want from a head coach in taunting other fans who
really don't care, and they were glad that their head
coach was gone, but that win was for Frank Reich.
It just always seemed odd. And then Jalen Hurts having
the telest head coach to shut up during the Super
Bowl when he was jawing with other Chiefs players.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
When is it gonna end? When is it gonna end?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
With Nick Sirianni, like, has this ever changed, because obviously
he hasn't. Now he's going back and having words like
if a player gives you a hard high five, I
can get why that may be a little a little
too much, Like what's the deal, bro?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, but I just when you're a head coach, you
can't be doing this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, it's he has like a one up mentality. He's
not the adult in the room.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
If something irks him, ever, if something irks him, he
has to let it be known. And those are like
the worst people to be around in general. So I
can only imagine being in the locker room full of
other guys that have ego, Like how how well is
that situation gonna be for an extended period of time?
It just won't happen because the you know and you
(35:09):
look about you go back in history. None of that
never works when you can't beat a bigger man in
the room at all.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I'm gonna say this. He also has resting jerkface. Oh,
Nick Sirianni, doesn't he like just looks like just look
like a guy that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I think I'm better than you.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He has that type of Yeah, well, Yeah, I don't
know if jerk is the appropriate fill in for the
other the other way to, but I feel that it's
a a resting jerk face that you're just like, I
don't know about this guy and it and it lives
up to all of the expectations, and it's incident after
incident after incident with Nick Sirianni, Like there's never a
(35:48):
point where he's a mediator, Like it's always involving him. Like,
this isn't zach Ertz getting into it with another you know,
Eagles player or a former teammate. This is the head coach.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I just should have just pushed him down while he
gave him the high five. That would have been at
least justify it, right.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, well, I here's also my favorite part again, how
Dom Desandro gets into all of these things.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I love how Big Dom shook Sean mcvay's hand after
a game earlier the season, because security always shakes the
opposing coach's head at hand, or that never happens, the
article says, taking exception to Sirianni's comments ERT's gun in
Syrianni's face. The situation was de escalated by Eagles head
of security dom decent.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He did what he's supposed to do. Dan, he saved
the day.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
The only head of security ever to make it into
an ap story. And this team can win the super Bowl.
Like that's what is just amazing through all of this.
Carry you and I are back at it Sunday. It's
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(01:11):
three six ' nine. You brought up the Pittsburgh Steelers
and maybe they should have just thought that maybe they
should have just stuck with Justin Fields, that he could
have led them to the ten and six record that
they have right now. You also would have got a
better view on how Justin Fields is for your future
and the long term possibility is him as a starting quarterback.
(01:32):
I think they made the right move in going back
to Russell Wilson. I think it made them a better team.
And the reason that I feel that way is the
reason for this next segment. Kerry Rhodes. It's not that
I believed in Russell Wilson as much as I did, because,
again as a Seahawks fan, I saw some of Russell
Wilson's wartz. He was great for the franchise, the greatest
(01:53):
quarterback they've ever had with that team, There's no doubt
about it. But in his last last year suvered a
finger injury. There were other kind of warning signs, and
then we saw what happened with Russell Wilson and Denver
and it wasn't working out. So I don't think Russell
Wilson was the end all fix all for the Pittsburgh Steelers,
But in the middle of the season, they had me convinced.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
They really did.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
It was this reclamation project. It's not only is it
Russell Wilson, it's Justin Fields comes in, your guy that
you felt should have been the starter, and they've carved
out a.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
Role for him.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
So they've figured out a way to make it work
with two guys. Arthur Smith comes in as the offensive
coordinator and kind of takes the stink off of his
tenure with the Atlanta Falcons, and you're looking at look
at what Arthur Smith has been doing with Russell Wilson
and Justin Fields and with Najie Harris, with Jalen Warren,
George Pickens, and then you had that defense, and that
(02:51):
defense led by TJ. Watt, Cameron Hayward. I thought the
Steelers were legit. I thought that they were a defensive
football team that had enough on offense where they could
make plays and be dangerous. And I'm always looking at
what teams can go to Kansas City, What teams can
go to Buffalo, What team could go to Baltimore and
(03:13):
win a football game if need be? Because those are
your prime competitions, your prime competitors in the AFC, And
I have questions about Buffalo's defense, I still do. I
have questions about Baltimore's defense. I don't have any questions
about the Chiefs. But right up there with the Chiefs,
it was the Pittsburgh Steelers, And so I believed in
the Pittsburgh Steelers in the middle of the season.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
I believe that they.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
Could go to Buffalo if they won the AFC North
and knock off the Bills and go to the AFC
Championship game against the Kansas City Chiefs. And now they're
going to limp into the playoffs as a wild card,
and I'm not sure they're going to be able to
get anything done in this postseason window. So even though
they qualified for the postseason, I expected more from them.
I expected them to make a run and be a factor,
(03:56):
and they have not lived up to the expectation that
I did not have pre season. It was only during
the season, but they had me convinced enough. It's like
the Falcons a few years ago, I could never put
my finger on, and in fact, I can't even put
my finger on the Minnesota Vikings this year. Right when
I think they're great and unstoppable, they lose a couple
of games. So I jump off and say, no, it's
(04:17):
not going to happen. Then they go and win, and
then they pull out this win against Arizona, and then
they beat my Seahawks. And I've never gotten a feel
for Minnesota despite them being thirteen and two this year.
But Pittsburgh fooled me. I thought Pittsburgh had the defense
and they had enough on offense in this late season.
I don't want to call it a collapse, but it
sure hasn't been good. This three game losing streak has
(04:38):
made the Pittsburgh Steelers fool me.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
Thank you for not saying to collapse, Dan, because I
think that's the normal word that people would say when
you start off where you are and then you fall
to where you are now, the same over teeth all year.
So to say a collapse is kind of harsh, but
to kind of piggyback on what you're saying, what you're
saying right now, the joke these heart jokes and these
heart lessons to a lot of us. During the season,
(05:02):
we go through peaks and valleys with teams and with players.
We have players playing stretches where you're like, Oh, this
guy's the MVP or this guy is the next Joe
Montet or whatever the thing week, Yeah, and then you're
like two three weeks later, he's the worst player in
the league. So I think with any situation when it
comes to a long season like the NFL, is being
(05:25):
able to temper the climate, the temperature in the room
and be the adult in the room. It's always a
smart thing because these teams are ever evolving and things
are going to change. Players are going to get hurt,
other guys are going to get better, and so when
it comes to these teams, man, it's always hard to
pick them. And and you know, we live in a
(05:45):
business where we have to make predictions, we have to
make claims and takes. It's always going to be one
of these situations. So Pittsburgh's your team, huh was?
Speaker 4 (05:54):
There was a point again that I thought, I don't
want to face them. If I'm the Chiefs, I wouldn't
want to see Pittsburgh on the other sideline. And then
we saw what happens when Kansas City and Pittsburgh plays
on Christmas Day without Chris Jones.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
By the way, I know one team that wouldn't want
to face them that would be one of the top
season that probably would be the only team would be
Baltimore because they're in the division. Yeah, we play each
other twice a year, and it's always scary, right, Yeah,
it's always always that with Steelers and Ravens.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
Now.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'm not saying that Carrie admits, never admits that he's wrong.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that
Carrie just holds out that is his point or his
take could still be true. Because we had this Russell
Wilson Justin Field's argument during our Red Zone show, and
I felt like I won because Russell Wilson didn't take over,
(06:45):
and then they had success, and so I just thought
this was a done deal. And then he ends up
coming up today and saying like, see, they should have
stuck with Justin Fields trying to hold on to his
point that he made in Week two of the NFL season.
But if I were say that maybe you were wrong,
or a team disappointed you or in the word that
I used, fooled. Yeah, is there an NFL team that
(07:09):
fooled you this year at least at some point during
the season or entering the season. That's just either you
thought were gonna stink and they were great or the
opposite where maybe they aren't as good as you.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Would have hoped that.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Well, the obvious for me is the Jets, right, And
I know, ah, yes, yeah, yeah, I didn't want to
go to the board. I didn't want to go there,
but yeah, obviously, I mean, you come into a year
where you supposedly have twenty all pros, I mean coming
into the season and let people talk about it, right,
like you have the names, you have the flash, or
in New York, you have a quarterback coming back off
(07:42):
of injury that's going to make this team better because
they already have the other pieces in play. And we
look at this and we talk about Chicago, right, they
have everything in play, We have all these players, you
have the positions filled. Cool, But when you don't have
a GM and a head coach is on the same page,
and in this case, you can even take it to
another extension and you talk about the actual owner of
(08:03):
this team, to think that you know, there's reports coming
out about him not wanting to take Jerry Judy because
it's Madden rating. Like when those things come out, it's
it's a little absurd. So this will be the most
disappointing team in the league by far off of their
talent alone. And I don't see I don't see a
solution to this problem coming anytime soon unless Woody steps
(08:26):
away from that team. And so that's kind of where
I am. So the biggest it's disappointment for Carrie Rhodes
as a New York Jets le.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
Jets fooled you, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (08:34):
See now carry took my things, Like, give me some
time to think of mine.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Now.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
The reason why I think that they're the biggest disappointment
is because Dan and I before the season, we read
the Aaron Rodgers book or listen to uh huh, listen
to Aaron Rodgers book by what's his face? What's the
name of the author there O'Connor. Yeah, And like by
the end of the book, I was just so like
pulling for him to win it all this year. Yeah,
(09:01):
and it wasn't because of the comeback of coming back
from the injury. That's a big that's a big deal.
But yeah, you just get this sense that he wants
that ultimate like FU to everybody who's been down on
him since the COVID comment. Ok, yeah, almost like that
it would be like this social comeback like and not
(09:22):
that people would embrace him. I think a lot of
people root against him still.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
But me being kind of the naysayer and also a
fan of Aaron Rodgers, I was really hoping for him
personally to win it all this season. And the Jets
are a mess for a lot of reasons, and I
think you could say the play of Aaron Rodgers is
one of them. That's the problem. I don't think any
of us saw that coming right right.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
I think that there were questions on how you would
respond from an achilles injury at forty years old, turning
forty one, like he did earlier this month. I think
that those things were legit. There was no guarantee, because
there was no guarantee that Kirk Cousins would be able
to come back from that sort of injury. So I
(10:05):
believed in the Jets enough to pick them to win
the division. You did, I will I will say that,
So I'm not trying to be all high in Mighty,
but there were questions. I felt that their defense was
good enough that when you have Bryce Hall, and at
the beginning of the year, we didn't know that they
would have DeVante Adams, right, and honestly, it really wasn't
(10:27):
even much of a conversation like the Devanta Adams stuff
transpired within the season, But I just I thought they
would have enough, and we thought that Buffalo was maybe
going to take a step back right without Stefan Diggs
and Gabe Davis and who the weapons were going to
be in Buffalo. So I thought it was there for
the Jets for the taking, where Aaron Rodgers just had
to be eighty percent of Aaron Rodgers and that he
(10:49):
would be good enough. But that wasn't the case. It
felt like he's about fifty percent Aaron Rodgers from what
you're saying, Jason Stewart.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
And you know the other part about that is and
then you see, now he is pretty healthy, right the
last five five games or so, he's hurt. Now, he's
hurt now, but yes, but before this injury last game,
he was on the streak of what eight touchdowns and
no interceptions and looking like he was fine. Again too late,
(11:17):
too little, too late, obviously, but it's almost that point
of it. You dangle the carrot in front of the
of the fans and us and the people that are
still enamored with Aaron Rodgers, and you say, oh, see,
he still can't do it if he's healthy. And that's
the other thing. Now, it's like, do you really want
to bring him back again one more year and draft
a quarterback? Or do you move on completely from all
(11:38):
the stink that you just had the last.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Couple of years. Yeah, I think he got to move on.
I don't think that he's gonna play again. I don't
know why you'd want to. You're forty You're gonna be
forty two the next year. You weren't even particularly good
this year. What team is going to want you? What
team is that it is going to be able to
protect you and give you enough weapons to be successful,
is going to want you? I just I don't see
(12:01):
that best offensive line in the NFL's probably in Detroit.
They don't need a quarterback. You know another, top offensive
lines in Philadelphia, they don't need a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
I just, yeah, it's just not about Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
I know you got Michael Penox obviously.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Yeah, I mean yeah, they have Michael Pennocks. Here's the answer. Yeah,
there's the answer.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
I said it when I when I said it.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
That's all right, it's our don't worry about it, Chris Perfetts.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I think real fast before you guys move on, is
I think what I want to ask Carrie? Are you
going to let the Jets fool you again? That's all
I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Do with me.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, no, no, no, I don't get easily.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
I'll tell you don't want to know where this this
topic started from. It was the Steelers conversation. But do
you ever watch the fool Penn and Teller Show? Have
you ever seen that?
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Oh that's a great one.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Yeah on c W. I haven't seen.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
I think it's uh fool me. I think yeah, it's
it's like magicians and.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Pedal Teller fool us because there's a big fu for
fool us. But it's and so you have all these
magicians come on stage and they present their tricks, and
Penn and Teller will they will not reveal how the
trick was done, but they will say did you fool
them by doing the tricks?
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
This is like shark Tank for magicians.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I have seen it.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
Yeah, it's one of those shows that honestly was on
once and I'm like, I don't know if this is
from two thousand and seven or if this is like
a current show and it's a current show and it's
actually pretty good. It is pretty entertaining. Do you have
a team that fooled you this year, Chris Prophett.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
I might have an entire state that fooled me, and
that's Florida. Like so, I never really bought into the
Miami Dolphins, but I felt like this could probably be
the year that, like, you know, this is all right,
I can kind of see it and like, look, there's
still an aside chance that might meet the playoffs, but
I'm going to take that chance away from them. But
every year, I feel like we do this with two
where he just goes out there and somehow gets hurt
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again and the team goes on the road and has
these abominabal road games. So I'm kind of done with them.
Jaguars even worse than I thought they would be. And
I think that's the big question for me right now
is have I finally been fooled for the last time
by Trevor Lawrence by this entire Jaguars organization where every
year I'm like, this looks like this should be able
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to step up in a weak AFC South, and then
they just crater And this one is even worse than ever.
And I know Trevor Lawrence is shut down for the
season everything, but they weren't exactly They were having this
losing streak with Trevor Lawrence at the helm too. It's abysmal.
And then the last piece of it might be the
most painful because I really did, up until this past
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Monday Night football or a Sunday night, I believe it was,
when they played the Cowboys, thought the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
were a very dangerous NFC playoff team even with their injuries,
even losing Chris Godwin. And I don't know how to
process that Dallas Cowboys loss.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
I don't like.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
I still think they might get into the playoffs over
the Falcons. But good lord, I think this is the
limit of Todd Bowles coaching this team right now. It's
absurd for.
Speaker 4 (15:02):
Someone who covers the Lions like you do. The Buccaneers
beat him earlier this year and played them in a
pretty good game of the Divisional playoff line.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
And beat the Eagles and beat the Eagles too. They
have wins over the top two NFC teams.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
But I can understand why you would also say, man,
these Buccaneers, I can't figure them out, like I thought
that they were legit, and then they go and lose
to the Dallas Cowboys who are playing for their head coach.
Speaker 1 (15:22):
The Miami one is an interesting one though, because of
I think you could be fooled by them again.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
To everyone does.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Everyone gets fooled every year by the Dolphins.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
But it's a specific point of Tua. Obviously, it's the
health situation, because when he's in, they win, and so
I could see why you would be fooled by that.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
Can I tell you what I think the biggest I'm
gonna tell you anyway, the question this is what's so
intriguing about the Dolphins moving forward, is because they have
a heck of a running back in Devana Chan, an
electric running back, and Tyreek Hill is not Tyreek Hill anymore,
at least the way that they've used him, or they
figured out a way to defend him. So now if
here Miami, who again does not beat teams that are
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better than they are, they can't do that for some reason.
Do you now change your thinking? Is it now about
a chan in the running game. Do we now transition
that way, or is it still let's have Tua throw
it around to Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, John new Smith,
the whole deal. I actually think they should. Probably if
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Mike McDaniel is it, Kyle Shanahan disciples, maybe you think
a little bit more about relying on the running game
than you do airing it out with those other guys.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
And I think that's what gets lost in translation with
that offense. Even when it was at its most explosive,
they were centered around a running game. A lot of
their stuff was stretch runs. They would get it to
those guys, those fast running backs in space. Even the
passing game was short. It wasn't it'll be short, short, short,
and you take a shot with Tyreek Hill. But there
was balance in that offense. Right now, it's not man
(16:56):
when you throw the ball the way they do with Tua,
he's also going to make them thanks and he and
putting them in a sense Western is not good for them.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Well, if you can't take shots, nobody thinks that you're
gonna take a shot. So that's why you're throwing passes
to John hus Smith twelve times a game.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He stepped up as any fantasy player with know Jason
Stewart and Schotine league that he is still alive in
with John.
Speaker 5 (17:19):
I didn't even know that. Thank you for reminding me
that I'm in your league.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You're still it.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Well, I'm dominating Dan's league, and I feel like he
holds it against me. In fact, he tells me out
loud that he's rooting for my opponent to win.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
It's a real weird dynamic, is yea?
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Now?
Speaker 4 (17:36):
This is this is what happens with Jason is because
he outlasted me in all these contests, and then he
keeps reminding me about it by telling me how his
team is doing when I've been eliminated, So then I
where and so so I'm eliminated, and so I don't
care anymore. But then last year in an NFL Survivor league,
he got knocked out in like week four, and I
(17:57):
went to like week twelve and no one asked me
about it for like two months. He's like, I completely
forgot about it. You know, That's all that there is.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
He's not an equal opportunity giver and guess.
Speaker 4 (18:08):
He's been he's been like on fire though like he
truly has. He's had some he's just been on fire.
We'll just leave it at that.
Speaker 5 (18:16):
Crazy luck, crazy luck. Just for the record, though, carry
you said that you're going to allow the Dolphins to
fool you again one more time. Okay, my team, my
team is this. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna flip this
on it said for you guys. It's fooled me in
a positive way, and this is going to be a
(18:38):
passion play. In fact, tell Scott Shapiro, I'm going to
do the next ninety seconds for free. This is a
passion play. Coming into the year, when Jim Harbaugh got
the job of the Chargers as my team, I was
fully willing to give him a year. We can punt
this year if you win two games, but you are
able to eventually bring your own guys and still a culture.
(19:03):
I will punt on the twenty twenty four season. I
had zero expectations coming in. Yeah, so every single thing
they've done has been gravy, including this week. You know,
we got our running back back, and I think that
there's a good chance that we solidify a playoff spot,
so much better than I thought it would be. So
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they've the Chargers fooled me, and that they typically let
me down. We talked about ownership and stuff. They've never
put this much faith or money into a head coach,
and it's just such a it's a delightful surprise. It's
been so positive and I'm really enjoying it immensely. So
thank you for those last ninety seconds.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Dan Jets, Steelers, Chargers, and I'm just going to draw
the entire state of Florida Panhandle first and then we'll
go down for our is that I know it's not necessary,
it's close. Maybe the panhandle needs to be shorter.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
That is a pistol.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
It does not look like what you think. It looks like.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
He's carry roads on, Dan Bayer, Jason Stewart, Chris Burpfett
hanging out today for Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 6 (20:09):
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Speaker 4 (20:24):
It's Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
carry Rhodes the All Pro I'm Dan Bayer. In there
Saquon Barkley's quest for the nfl A rushing title. I
mentioned Kenny Pickett going to be starting for the Philadelphia
Eagles coming up against the Cowboys in week seventeen. Now
Saquon Barkley one eight thirty eight yards away, getting closer
(20:49):
and closer to the record by Eric Dickerson for the
all time singles season rushing record and then speaking with
the La Times, Eric Dickerson says, and I'm paraphrasing, yeah,
I hope he doesn't get the record. He wants it himself.
Dickerson twenty one five that he did in nineteen eighty four,
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did it in sixteen games. Barkley right now at eighteen
thirty eight, as I mentioned, is done so through fifteen games.
But Dickerson told the La Times quote, I don't think
he'll break it, but if he breaks it, he breaks
it the way I want him to break it. Absolutely not.
I don't pull no punches on that. But I'm not
whining about it. He had seventeen games to do it. Hey,
football is football. That's the way I look at it.
(21:33):
If he's fortunate to get over two thousand yards and
get the record, and get the record.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
It's a great record to have end quotes.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Yeah, I love the comment by Eric Dickerson. That's just
his truth. And the other truth around this is there's
an extra game. There's seventeen games, So I could see
why he would say what he said. I don't think
it takes away from the incredible year that say Kwan
Barkley's having.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
Had, But he had an extra game to do it.
And that's the fact.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
And I'm for Eric Dickerson to have this record as
long as he has, with all these talented runners that
have come. Man, it is a sacred it's a sacred thing,
and so I do understand where he's coming from.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
So there's two things at play here. Number One, Dickerson
broke Ojy's record with more games. Oj had it in
fourteen games when he had two thousand. Dickerson broke into
the fifteenth game, and then through the entire nineteen eighty
four season just finishes with twenty one oh five. That
was his final total, but it did take him fifteen
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games to do it. That's that's the part where I
don't I think when we hear Eric Dickerson doesn't want
Sae Kwon Barkley to break the record. I don't think
Eric Dickerson is saying. I think Eric Dickerson still wants
to be relevant. That's what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah,
(22:53):
I was gonna try to be all wordy and you know,
try to, but he just wants to be relevant with it.
I don't think it's it's fair bringing up the game numbers,
considering again, he needed more to break OJ. And if
he's saying, oh, if he does it in seventeen games,
it's not the same as mine, well, yours wasn't the
same as OJ.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
We get down to brass tacks.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
It's Eric Dickerson just still wants to be relevant, and honestly,
I don't I can't hate that. Yeah, you know, records
were made to be broken. It's the nice thing to say.
But to still be known as the all time rushing
leader when you know you're walking around every now and then,
there's still some ego in every athlete, and that's what
I think Eric Dickerson wants hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I don't think I mean, I don't think he's even
talking about you know, the fourteen fifteen games, right, there
was an allotment of sixteen games like he played sixteen
games at that time. So if you're a healthy enough
to play fourteen and fifteen, that's fine. This situation, you
actually have an extra game, and if he plays in
all seventeen, which he has, there is for me a
(23:53):
little asterisk beside that as far as, like you said,
Eric Dickerson wants he's held their record for so long
for it to be taken away from him at this
point because of an extra game that that's allowed to
be played. I understand that as well.
Speaker 4 (24:09):
I am curious in your opinion on this. Yeah, because
I told you there's two things at play here. Do
you think it's more difficult now to get two thousand
yards or easier to get two thousand yards?
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's a great question.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
I think it's easier in the way that offenses spread
you out and so there are more lanes to run.
And if you have an offense that you know, you
obviously have a quarterback that's a dual threat guy, those
lanes are even bigger. So I think it could be
easier in the standpoint of that, just you know, for
that reason alone. But everything's I mean, everything is hard
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to achieve, and when it's a number like this, it's
still and it's still super impressive.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
I think it's much more easier to get a thousand
yard or two thousand yards, not because of the game factor,
it's because of how the NFL is nowadays. You need
to get after the quarterback, you need to stop the quarterback,
you need to put pressure on the quarterback. So all
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of your resources likely are being put on the defensive
line to get after the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
You know what that means, They're not there to get
after the running back.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And I think that back in the nineteen eighties and
nineteen nineties, and I'm not sure if it's I feel
like your era maybe was blending because we were in
the transition from you know what would be the the
Emmett Smith sort of days to now where we are
relying so much on the quarterback. But now if you
just give your running back enough, I don't think it's
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necessarily Like the biggest coincidence that we've seen Derrick Henry
of the numbers that he has, that Saquon Barkley had
these numbers, you know that Chris Johnson when he did it,
you know, a decade or so ago, whenever it was
I think now it's easier to do so because defenses
aren't constructed a way to stop the run.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I'll push back on it being easier to get two
thousand yards by saying, with the point that you just said,
I would say it's I would say it's actually harder
than that. And just in the scenario that you brought up,
because a lot of teams don't feature that one back anymore.
They do it by committee, and so for one guy
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to get the two thousand yards, that would be impressive
if it happens to that regard.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Eric Dickerson in eighty four, twenty one oh five, twenty twelve,
Adrian Peterson twenty ninety seven, two thousand and three, Jamal
Lewis twenty sixty six, Barry Sanders in ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
That's the EMMITTT.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Smith era that I'm talking about, twenty fifty three. Derreck
Henry did it four years ago in twenty twenty, twenty
twenty seven. Then there's Treel Davis in nineteen ninety eight,
got two thousand and eight, Chris Johnson two thousand and nine,
and then OJ's two thousand and three.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
So of the.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
Nine that are there, four of those have come in
the two thousands in two thousands and were about to
maybe have another one. Whether he breaks sticker sins or not,
he still can get to two thousand yards and to
get to that point. Yeah, And that's you know, that's
why I think it's actually easier, just because if you
do have that guy. Yeah, and we've seen teams commit
(27:23):
to it in the NFL this year with Josh Jacobs,
with Joe Mixon, with Saquon Barkley, with Derrick Henry. When
you have that guy, just ride him. The two headed
monster is no longer there. And if those guys stay healthy,
then just keep on going.
Speaker 3 (27:37):
Well.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
The crazy thing about that is two years ago we
were just having a conversation about running backs not being important.
Remember that conversation, And I just when you look at
the you know, the pantheon of talent, running back talent
and the NFL, obviously there are horses and there are
guys that can do this, say Kwon's now and I
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think in that group, but it's still very hard to
do and it's hard to have that guy be even
healthy enough to get through a season to accomplish this.
So it's a huge it's a huge accomplishment on his own.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
Jason Stewart.
Speaker 5 (28:13):
Just having worked with Eric a little bit and know
him a little bit. I'm not name dropping. I literally
worked with the guy. I kind of know how he works,
and I know carry you could appreciate this. What did
we figure out when that whole Mark Gastono Brett Fara
thing earlier this year?
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yep?
Speaker 5 (28:27):
How that record stuff impacts your bottom line? And I
love money. We all love money, but Eric really likes money.
And it works into what Dan is saying. The more
relevant you are, the more you could ask at the
trade shows. Blah blah blah. Sure it gets more impressive
that record. It was forty years with sixteen games. That's impressive,
But every year there's a seventeen game schedule, it gets
(28:50):
more impressive. And he could probably raise the raid a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
No, yeah, I think just signing the autograph, if you
do it, Eric Dickerson former, Yeah, single season rushing leader,
you know, number one, or just write twenty one oh
five and that that'd be your number instead of twenty nine.
You just write twenty one oh five and that says
it all.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
What about you? Right? What about you?
Speaker 5 (29:12):
Right?
Speaker 1 (29:13):
Your your current rushing all time leader? And he put
an asterisk sixteen games.
Speaker 4 (29:21):
How about that that will be difficult to fit on
a mini helmet, I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
Chris Perffett.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Yeah, I was just thinking about this, kind of bringing
our conversation forward back to where we started. Do you
think David Carr is like punching the air right now
that most sacks in a NFL season is no longer
the record holder for that?
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Well, I think he's got Williams. No, I think he
still is. In fact, he last night. Yeah, he's still
the record holder. They showed this is what you brought
up Derek Carr earlier, and it popped into my mind.
They showed the graphic for most time sacked and Killer
Williams is now second or third behind cars record. David
Carr was on the list twice well in two and two,
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two thousand and five, so he's got like one in
four locks.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
Well, how far back to see from David Carr right
now because they still got a.
Speaker 5 (30:06):
Game to go.
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Yeah, you know, I can't remember what the number was.
I'm too busy looking up single season rushing leaders here.
But in the last in the last five seasons, what
we've had since Derrick Henry had twenty twenty seven yards
in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one, Jonathan Taylor at
eighteen hundred yards. Josh Jacobs led the NFL in rushing
(30:26):
with sixteen fifty three thank Christian McCaffrey last year fourteen
fifty nine. But McCaffrey's not that he's a dual back.
I would I would say Saquan is as well, So
I shouldn't. I shouldn't say that, but I feel like
there's more of an effort to giving the ball to
Saquon Barkley to give it to Jonathan Taylor, Derrick Henry.
They are more running the ball guys instead of the
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dual guys out of the backfield. I just when you
look at the at the numbers, they do fluctuate over
the years. I just think now it's it's easier to
get it done because of those defense. But I understand
what you're saying. You're just not gonna have nine guys
doing it or nine guys, and back then, I feel
like we had Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders in a
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bunch of different running backs that could have gone for
for that record, And now.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
Maybe that's not the case.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah, you have two guys realistic. Yeah, and probably one
and a half because Derek Henry has to be going
down at this point.
Speaker 3 (31:25):
He's carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Bayer. Jason Stewart's here, so
is Chris Purfett.
Speaker 4 (31:29):
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Sports Radio. One NFL coach is at it again and
not in a good way. Yeah, we're talking about you,
Nick Sirianni. That's next year. On Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 3 (32:17):
I wouldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Yeah, tell him, Dan, tell him about it, because you're
a big fan of what I received as well, so
I wanted to share that.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
I was actually hoping that you would because I was
wind off and just walking down the hallway quickly and
grabbing my stuff. But he got an official red Ryder
BB gun from the Christmas Story. Yes, absolutely, I was
so impressed by the gift. I'm one of those guys.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I'm not a good gift receiver, and so whenever I
do get something, that's usually thoughtful, which matters to me.
So the fact that they knew that that was one
of my favorite movies and one of the biggest things
in my young adolescent life and now in my adult life,
it was pretty pretty impressive. So I was impressed.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
I don't know if Nick Sirianni has entered his adult
life yet, because the Eagles head coach is still still
being Nick Sirianni can headlines again like it all goes back.
There are so many Sirianni incidents. In the most recent one,
if you haven't heard, happened after the Commander's game with
former Eagles tight end Zach Ertz, who's now a member
(33:21):
of the Commanders. And has had a nice season. A
hard handshake or high five, if you will, one that
was too hard for Sirianni's liking, and so he went
back to zach Ertz and exchanged some words. Mocking is
his stat line. But it all goes back. It's not
just the Super Bowl, It's not it's it goes back
(33:42):
to when the Colts fired Frank Reich and Sirianni had
worked for frank Reich previously, and at the end of
the Eagles like just surviving a game against the Colts,
Nick Sirianni is tawning the Colts fans, who by the way,
had no interest in the game, that that was for
Frank Rych, like it was in their face, and it
just was like, this is not the messaging that I
(34:05):
want from a head coach in taunting other fans who
really don't care, and they were glad that their head
coach was gone, but that win was for Frank Reich.
It just always seemed odd. And then Jalen Hurts having
the telest head coach to shut up during the Super
Bowl when he was jawing with other Chiefs players.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
When is it gonna end? When is it gonna end?
Speaker 4 (34:22):
With Nick Sirianni, like, has this ever changed, because obviously
he hasn't. Now he's going back and having words like
if a player gives you a hard high five, I
can get why that may be a little a little
too much, Like what's the deal, bro?
Speaker 3 (34:35):
Yeah, but I just when you're a head coach, you
can't be doing this sort of stuff.
Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, it's he has like a one up mentality. He's
not the adult in the room.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Ever.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
If something irks him, ever, if something irks him, he
has to let it be known. And those are like
the worst people to be around in general. So I
can only imagine being in the locker room full of
other guys that have ego, Like how how well is
that situation gonna be for an extended period of time?
It just won't happen because the you know and you
(35:09):
look about you go back in history. None of that
never works when you can't beat a bigger man in
the room at all.
Speaker 4 (35:15):
I'm gonna say this. He also has resting jerkface. Oh,
Nick Sirianni, doesn't he like just looks like just look
like a guy that's gonna.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
I think I'm better than you.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He has that type of Yeah, well, Yeah, I don't
know if jerk is the appropriate fill in for the
other the other way to, but I feel that it's
a a resting jerk face that you're just like, I
don't know about this guy and it and it lives
up to all of the expectations, and it's incident after
incident after incident with Nick Sirianni, Like there's never a
(35:48):
point where he's a mediator, Like it's always involving him. Like,
this isn't zach Ertz getting into it with another you know,
Eagles player or a former teammate. This is the head coach.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
I just should have just pushed him down while he
gave him the high five. That would have been at
least justify it, right.
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Yeah, well, I here's also my favorite part again, how
Dom Desandro gets into all of these things.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
I know.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
I love how Big Dom shook Sean mcvay's hand after
a game earlier the season, because security always shakes the
opposing coach's head at hand, or that never happens, the
article says, taking exception to Sirianni's comments ERT's gun in
Syrianni's face. The situation was de escalated by Eagles head
of security dom decent.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
He did what he's supposed to do. Dan, he saved
the day.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
The only head of security ever to make it into
an ap story. And this team can win the super Bowl.
Like that's what is just amazing through all of this.
Carry you and I are back at it Sunday. It's
not fun. Four carry Rhoads. I'm Dan Byer. This has
been Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Enjoy
the weekend, everyone,
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