January 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan and Monse filling in for C&R as Dan shares a story about a recent Tik Tok post he made. Monse and Dan discuss how the college football playoff has gone up to now. Dan and Monse had a serious conversation about Patrick Mahomes. Dan and Monse talk about Charles Barkley's rant.
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Speaker 5 (01:09):
How far are we from? Two hundred followers.
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We've gained four spots.
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Yeah we have.
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I don't I think people look at Blue Sky as
a if it's political, as a left leaning site. I
just look at it as a a more positive, refreshing place.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
That's what I've been sold from it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's that's that's that's my expectation as well, so that
I will put stuff on there and try to be
just as active as I am on x but I'm
also active, try to be on Instagram, maybe not as much,
and on TikTok and on TikTok. We talked about this
on the show yesterday when Cavino and Rich were here.
I had a TikTok from the Rose Bowl Manzi that
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just completely went in a direction that I never thought
would And it was of the flyover prior to the
game during the national anthem, and I just think that
aren't flyovers cool? Like, if you see him at a game.
You've been to a game where there's been a flyover, Yah.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Fine, everybody's waiting for it. Part of the reason you
pay attention to start.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And sometimes it's better when you don't know that it's there,
because then all of a sudden surprises and you're like, WHOA.
But I knew that there was a flyover because there's
a flyover every year at the Rose Bowl, And in
fact is I was trying to find my tickets and
looking where I wanted to be. I knew I wanted
to be by the Ohio State fans, and I'm like, well,
this is going to be great because you can see
the sunset on the mountains. But I can also see
the flyover coming from a ways away. So I knew
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what I was doing when I recorded this. What I
did not realize was again the political war that has
been unfurled in my comments on TikTok. So I just
wanted to you can check it out at buyer Talk
if it is. But if you want to engage in
a war of words with people, that apparently is the
place to be.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Definitely not what I would have expected either, posting that it's.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Been it's been crazy. Jason Stewart, have you seen any
of these comments?
Speaker 8 (03:11):
No, but you you did read a few of them
to me, And so just just for so in case
the listener doesn't understand when you say it goes political.
So you're saying that one side of the argument is
we shouldn't spend that gas, money and all the resources
to fly something over a stadium when there are people
starving in our country?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Is that where they're going with this?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So there's one there's one comment in this and I
screenshot of this, and I don't I don't think. I
don't think I'm going to put it up on Twitter.
I will not put it up on Blue Sky not
we are keeping that controversy free. But I showed Mansi
this and it's just notifications. One person writes, America baby
gave me goosebumps. The next comment was, there goes my
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healthcare and college tuition for for what they say for
what is a blank on. I don't think I can
actually used the word. But that's what that's what was,
That's what was written. And here I'm thinking, like, isn't
this awesome at a bowl game? I'm I'm I know
I may be naive in some things. This one completely
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caught me off guard, totally naive to what could happen.
And again, it hasn't gone super viral where it's been
like two million views, but it's kind of like one
hundred thousand views and a lot of comments and likes.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
You know, it was a first person that puts something
political as a comment, then the next person felt comfortable
enough to do it. It's a little bit of like
a mob mentality, sure, and so like once it started happening,
it was like people.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Are like, oh yeah, and it's like, y'all, I was
just at a game. I was just trying to be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I also and I fell victim because I hate being uncreative.
I hate going with the Norman. It's not that I
try to go against you know, I'm not like salmon
swimming upstream. I just don't want to fall in. But
I didn't know how to describe it. I just did
the good old wait.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
For it, simple.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Wait for it. There are people who are like, see
you wait for it on TikTok swipe like they're like
like like they're completely annoyed by it. And and then
like my favorite comment was like, this is the first
wait for it that actually was worth it, And I'm like,
you know, I wish I could take that one pinned
on top of the comment so everybody could see. But
other people are like, wait for it. Nope, no, thanks,
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thank goodness for fast forward. Now I'm taking strays on
my own post. It was just supposed to be some
fun on New Year's Day.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
This is the most amazing study in human psychology, guys,
that I have ever seen. Among the comments, I had
never known that that the stealth bomber was referred to
as the dorito of death in one of the comments.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That's correct too, it was it was.
Speaker 9 (05:50):
The untraditional dorito with two r's spelling. Then we have
are Then we have some inter aircraft trash talking. If
Jean M commented the B one and B fifty two
do all the work, the B two gets all the glory.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Total stray for the B two bomber, absolutely.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
And then another one, another favorite, somebody posted, not that stealthy.
I could see it coming miles away.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yes, well that was kind of the point, because you
see this little dot, this little spec and then you're like, wait,
is that it? And then it gets closer and closer
and closer. So then the goal is after you watch it,
you go back and watch it again and see when
is the first time that you can actually see it
coming by because it is so stealth. I've also learned,
to Isaac's point, that these can also be used as
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training hours for pilots. So while it may seem frivolous
and useless to some, these pilots who are flying this
could also be getting training hours. I don't know if
that's correct or not, but that's what they said on TikTok,
So I'm just gonna go.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
With it, right not people don't lie on TikTok.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Serious question, is there any thing that any of us
could post in this society that is complete immune from
snark or some bizarre idiot reaction the cross section of
which we saw for something that should be fairly harmless
just now.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
No, there's nothing you could possibly I've watched I've watched
Doug Gottlieve over the past two weeks. He had a
rough deceummer. They don't need to get into that. He's
posted his dog a lot on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Really hard to attack a dog, A cute dog. I
think that's probably the one sacred thing.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I bet you somebody did, though, did you look through it?
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Won't you spend less time feeding your dog and more
time coaching your team?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And so the answer is not even dogs are safe.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then the ASPCA came to Doug's defense and.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It said, no, keep feeding your dog, please, sir man.
And please don't leave them outside in the cold.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, I can say, Monsey and ironed for Kivino and
Rich like one of the guys back you guys coming
back on Monday. They were just on the herd six
hours ago. I'm sorry that you've had your CNR withdrawal.
All right, show Mons and I a little bit of
grace please, all right. Blue Sky followers again at Dan
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Bayer at Dan Byer on Fox on Exit, Monzy Blanos
up at Isaac Longcron at Jason Stewart at Ryan McBain
for Ryan, who's our technical producer. College football playoff is
down to four. Maybe not the final four that we
get excited for in college basketball, but it is a
final four. And honestly, I think that the powers at
be in college football, and especially the television network that
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is broadcasting this couldn't be happier with the matchups that
they have got for the final three games. No matter
what happens to the semi finals, you're gonna get something
good in the championship game. And there are may be
better scenarios. Listen, Notre Dame. Everybody knows Notre Dame's the
favorite in terms of the eyes of the TV public.
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Maybe they're the favorite actually playing football in the field,
considering that did the Georgia yesterday. Who knows, But you know,
ESPN would love to see Notre Dame in the championship game.
And if you have Ohio State Notre Dame, magnificent, if
you have Texas Notre Dame, superb. If Penn State ends
up knocking off Notre Dame, guess what. Texas Penn State
not too shabby. Ohio State Penn State. Maybe not the
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rivalries or the matchup that you would have dreamed of,
but still two really good football teams in a rematch
from what was a really good game earlier this year.
So they really can't lose. Yet. There's nothing good that's
come from any of the conversations when the college football
Playoff in the first two rounds of it so far. Manzi,
it has been. It has been negativity, it has been slander.
It has been anything but great, including some of the
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games we've seen on the field.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Which I think it's not super surprising that though, right,
I mean, the first time trying this twelve team playoff.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
We knew that there were going to be some kinks.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
That they were going to have to iron out, and
you were only going to figure that out after actually
going through the season. But yeah, that first round was
rough to watch. There just hasn't been a lot of
competitive games, and that's what's been hard, because that's what
you want when it comes to the playoffs. I just
don't know how like the conversation is like still about
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like expanding to more, when in reality I'm like, why
isn't the conversation to, oh, maybe we should do eight teams.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, we're gonna get to that in a second. I
want to hear from Kirby Smart first, because I think
all roads lead to what Monty is saying. This is
what Kirby Smart said after yesterday's lost to the Notre
Dame Fighting Irish, the Georgia head coach, when asked on
if it was a coincidence basically that all four teams
with a buy in this college football playoff, all were
doubt losses in the quarterfinals. Here was Kirby Smart.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Two of those teams were better than the other teams,
to be honest with you, you know, and that is
what it is. That's more about the seeding process and
where it is. But I'm not here to complain about anything,
you know, given the opportunity, Notre Dame and lost probably
their best defensive player. So I don't know how an advantage.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Magnificent answer from a losing coach, a magnificent answer of
taking responsibility, especially when one of the kids on your
own team in jeans ended up getting a fifteen yard penalty.
Magnificent from Kirby Smart. That is how. That is how
you deal with it. And what he did is he
he spoke facts. Because his point was Texas was ranked
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higher than Arizona State, Penn State was ranked higher than
Boise State. They were not seated higher than those schools
because of the seating process that went through. And Manzi,
to your point, all the favorites ended up winning in
the quarterfinals.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, that's what I was looking.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I was like, I understand that the bye the teams
that got the buys didn't win, but the teams that
were favored one.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So isn't that what everybody was expecting?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, that to your point that that maybe we shouldn't
be complaining as much. I think Oregon got screwed with
the seating and how the matchups went. Ohio State wasn't
the eighth best team in college football, and the rankings
would tell you that as much as well. But to
have like Oregon could have played Oregon could have played
Notre Dame, they could have played Texas, they could have
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played Penn State. Maybe a little different with Penn State
because they beat him in the Big Ten Championship game.
But the point is if you took let's say you
just took Texas in Notre Dame, easier matchup for Oregon
because you didn't have the motivation that Ohio State had.
You didn't have Ohio State losing by a point as
time ran out in Autin Stadium, emptying out on the
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field in that game in October. You didn't have any
of that. All of that was motivation and fuel for
Ohio State. And if losing to Michigan wasn't enough, they
can go back to that loss against Oregon and point
to all the things where they were so close to
winning the game and Oregon took a victory lap and
celebrated it by the way as they should, like that
was a huge game that was pointed on the calendar,
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maybe the biggest game of the college football season this
past year prior to the playoff, and Oregon ended up
winning it. So Oregon ended up getting screwed with with
the seating there the bye hurting teams. Maybe maybe it
helped that Ohio State played Tennessee a week and a
half and that there was a layoff. So now do
you want teams to play more and risk injury? I'm sorry,
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ten times out of ten you're taking a buye instead
of playing an extra game.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I feel like this whole bye thing is also a
conversation lately in the NFL where I'm gonna hold the
NFL a little bit to a higher standard.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Obviously, but all of.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
The teams with the bye, they did seem to come
out flat though like at first it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It took them a minute to get into it. With
Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, like you said, they had a momentum, whether it
was revenge, whether it was the week before, but they
had a momentum or I even looked flat for I
mean basically the whole game. But you know, like all
the teams looked like, Okay, we have to get into
a rhythm, while the others weren't. And at the same time,
like you just said, you would still take the buy though.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Ah yeah, it's not like there used to be a
timeline by was too long. It used to be a
time in college football where teams would stop playing on
November twenty third and then not play until January first.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
That's disgusting and that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That was the old. Isaac remembers that time. Jason remembers
that time. It was more than a month. You would
end the regular season before Thanksgiving, and if you played
on New Year's Day, you wouldn't play until January first.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But the team sorry, but the team you were playing
also wasn't playing and like everybody had the same buy.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, yes, yes, okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
I mean that's still gross, but at least everybody was
on the same schedule.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
So Penn State and Oregon ended up playing in the
Big Ten title game on December seventh. Okay, Penn State
then had their game two weeks later against SMU and
their championship game. My point is is Ohio State hadn't
played a game from when they lost to Michigan to
when they played Tennessee in the first round. I don't
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think they were necessarily sluggish. It helps to be at home,
but the break that they had, they ended up having
about a week and a half break, where Oregon had
about a three and a half week break. When you
come out of a buy of an NFL season, sometimes
there are sluggish because you have the week off. I
just don't think that there's anything you could do about it,
because I don't know any team that would rather play
a game than to just advance to the next round
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without having to risk injury and taking what your previous
success allotted you to. You're taking a buy every single time.
What I think screwed Oregon was that they had to
play a motivated Ohio State team. So I get that
there could be some rust there, but if you ride
the wave of the first couple of possessions, you take
off the rust and move forward. I don't think that.
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I don't think that there is any excuse that the
teams to Kirby Smart's point of having a team having
the four teams with buys lose that the rust and
by factor had anything to do with it. I just
don't believe it. It's the fact that they were better
teams or there were reasons why the matchups played out
the way that they did, like Ohio State was a
better team than Oregon, that the motivation was there. Vegas
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said it was there. Those are the reasons why she
is Wazi Belanios. I'm Dan Byer here on Fox Sports Radio.
Do you buy this buy theory? Jason Stewart No.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
You know, typically when I hear Kirby Smart say something,
I always think he should change his name to Kirby Dumb.
You don't agree, just, you know, just for the punchline,
I let go into that line. So and I can't
call him Kirby Dumb here. I think his answer was
perfect to it and notre Dame losing a player last week,
him losing him, losing his quarterback or whatever. It's all
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pretty much nonsense. I think we need a sample size.
We need two or three years of this, and at
the end of like three years or whatever, if we're
still like zero to twelve with by teams, maybe we
take a look. I want to say it's in an
anomaly this time around. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think
I think it absolutely is. The other tricky thing about
the first round games, not the quarterfinal games that were
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just played, was you're having teams who are better, who
are the better team at home? Texas was better than Clemson.
It's at Texas. Ohio State was better than Tennessee. It's
at Ohio State. Penn State was better than SMU it's
at Penn's State. Those games are tough to win.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Notre Name is better than Indiana, it was at Notre Dame.
To go on the road and beat those teams is
a tough task no matter who you are. If you're
the number one team in the nation, it would be
difficult to win those games. So when you have an
underseted team, maybe it helps in that sort of way
that you get the game in. But they have those
teams knocked off. I think the first round is going
to be very home field heavy because of the home
field and because they're just better teams. It's a tough
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it's a tough tough road to ho for those teams
that are the lesser seed in those scenarios. But I
think that we've learned something else about this, and that's
that the SEC and the Big Ten are just better
conferences and it's not necessarily about money. It's about the
players that they get, which may go back to money,
but when you look at the field that we have
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now we have two Big Ten teams, an SEC team
and an independent, it also may lead Notre Dame to
making a decision. While it may come up gold and
roses for them right now, Notre Dame not being in
a conference if this format stays, or if they do
expand to fourteen, them not getting an automatic buy because
of a great, great season could hurt them. It could
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hinder them. I think that they would still rather have
had the path of the four teams that had buys
than to follow the path that they ended up playing.
Maybe not could be wrong. Maybe that game against Indiana,
you know, lit a fire under them. Maybe it was
the game at Georgia or against Georgia in New Orleans
yesterday that will now propel them. But I just think
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that you always are taking the buy, and if Notre
Dame ends up even winning the national championship this year,
I don't think that changes of saying we want to
play as many games possible. Maybe to Jason's point, data
will show that, all right, you do want to play
more games because the buys aren't having an effect. But
I just think you risk injury, and that's something that
I would not want to risk. I understand, and trying
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to be as sharp as you can. I just again,
I know said it fifteen times here, but I'm taking
the buy every single time. The final thing to your point, though,
in leading up to all of this and all of
the conversations and all of the teams in the Crappy Game,
I think Manci's right hit the nail right on the
head is that this is we got an expanded playoff,
and all of a sudden, we've expanded it way too much.
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They wanted to make everybody happy, and now you could
have made everybody happy in the previous world where you
had five Power five conferences. Now we're entering a world
where you have two dominant leagues. And I know that
the I would love to run on the parade of
the SEC as much as anybody right now, considering the
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bragging that they've done and now to say, hey, the
SEC only has one team and they haven't fared well,
in bowl games, we'd be crazy to think that the
ACC or the Big twelve in the Mountain West are
better than the SEC. The competition is between the Big
ten and the SEC, and that's where things really need
to be sorted out. And if you're expanding a playoff,
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what you're likely doing is you're expanding some more of
those teams can end up getting in. And I think
that we they probably did do it too much Manci,
But they're never going back. They're never going back to four.
They're not going to drop back to six or eight.
It's just not going to happen because everybody wants their shot,
everybody wants their piece, and it's going to be fourteen
or sixteen probably sooner rather than later.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
That makes no sense, especially with the first round being
so not competitive. Like maybe, I mean, maybe they'll learn
because it's hard, you know, looking at did you think
Ohio State was going to crush.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Oregon the win that they did?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
You did it?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Like do we? Is this on Dan Lanning for not
having his team prepared.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I just think that I think that Oregon got caught
in a bad situation.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
You're being kind, yeah, being very kind.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And they were not rewarded. They were not rewarded for
what they accomplished this season. They arguably got the most
difficult team.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
To play after having the best season.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes, yes, and there's stuff in this format of the
college football playoff will never be around again because of
all of the errors. But like Oregon deserve to be,
you know, in the final for Final six, but their
their bracket didn't. They played the wrong team. We see
that sometimes on selection Sundays in college basketball, when you're like, ooh,
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that team in a one to eight second round game
that is going to be really difficult for the one seed,
and so they got a bad bracket. But I think
that your point is made is that they're never going
to be twelve teams capable of winning a college football
national championship. And now in this day of the nil
of NL, in the transfer portal and these two big leagues,
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there's never going to be twelve teams that are capable
of winning a national championship. They're going to be about six,
but there's never going to be twelve. And I think
that's what we've really learned here with college football is
when we had four, we didn't know how many actually
could and we wanted to include everybody. So like when
five and six were left out, We're like, ah, geez,
these teams are left out. But how deep can you go?
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And I think what we've seen, at least in these
first returns is that, yeah, this is probably about six,
and if you leave seven out, so be it, But eight, nine, ten,
and eleven probably shouldn't be there. Yeah, she's Monty Belanos.
I'm Dan Byer.
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Speaker 4 (22:37):
New Year's Resolution twenty twenty five, Be more honest. It's
Cavino and Richire on Fox Sports Radio. She's Moncey Blaos.
I'm Dan Bayer.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
That's your resolution.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
We're gonna get honest about Patrick Mahomes, Okay, but I
also have to be honest about something I did not
know if I should be talking about buys for the
twentieth time in a row, or save you from your
coffee fit. Yeah, we encourage you to go to the
podcast and always listen to Cavino and Rich. But there's
an easter egg in there and it's Moncey coughing up
(23:08):
her lung. In the last segment, it was at any
point did you think should I leave the studio or
should I? Okay, I did?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
I did, and then I was like, no, It's gonna
get better. Like I almost was like, maybe I'll walk out.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
There is a point I said to myself, do I
still talk about this or should I tend to my
co host well being? And I wasn't sure, but I
know what Mancy would have wanted me to do. She
would have wanted me to talk on.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's right, keep talking on. Yes, if you would have stopped, Cater,
I would be like, Dad, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
I'm not dying, just coughing?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Keep going? The show was go on and I had
to land the plane at some point. To get back
to your main point that you made, is we just
we we got we grew too fast too soon.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
With the college football I think so.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And I think that your your analysis of that is
spot on. And I get I've loved college foot well,
you know, since the day I was born, and you're
somewhat new to the sport, but I think that your
appreciation of it is actually more in this spotlight because
I could think of a way to romanticize anything. And
for your point of just being like, yeah, it's just
(24:17):
not as many good teams, I think is the point
that we needed to go to. It's just we just
had to circle around the airport before we could land
the plane backs at back at Manti International.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Yes, yes, because I was dying for just a few seconds.
But I like looked at Jason to give them like
a like a U talk because I'm dying over here.
I smiled at Isaac, so he knew I wasn't really dying.
I gave him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I can't see that because of how we're sitting.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
So I was trying to cough away from you.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think, smart move, Yeah, smart move.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I mean I contact.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I was like, guys, some good I just let me
cough up along for a.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Second, just moving forward, moving forward. If any of us
are dying of coughing or just have a bad cough,
just remove yourself and please take care of yourself or
find help.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
But no, it's just you know, when because I lost
my voice, but when you talk, you kind of like
aggravate it, right, That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It was.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
I have to say, it did kind of remind me
of the time that Nick Saban allegedly stepped over the
injured Dolphins player on the practice field back in the day.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I just kept going as Monty is sitting there, I
wanted she had a full bottle of waters.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Gone now, gone now.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I honestly could not get to my next point because
and I just it was about eighth. It was great,
It was it was. It was just great to find
out that my co host is practiced practically losing a lung,
but she's good. And I couldn't turn and do my
turn that you would see on video normally and look
at her all right, honest conversations. There was some honesty there.
There was Patrick Mahomes left off the AFC Pro Bowl roster.
(25:51):
I have absolutely no problem with it. I think it's
actually a pretty obvious answer, and in fact, Patrick mahomes
season just doesn't it doesn't compare to the other greats
of the quarterbacks that were named. In fact, I think
that there are probably other quarterbacks. I don't think Patrick
Mahomes would have been fourth when you're looking at AFC quarterbacks.
(26:12):
I think justin Herbert would have been just as much,
if not more, of a possible candidate to be the
quarterback in the Pro Bowl for the AFCRE for the
Pro Bowl games. Patrick Mahomes not a Pro bowler is
not a big deal in my mind.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
It's not that it's in the gregand scheme of things.
Of course, it's not a big deal, and he probably
doesn't care. But it is interesting how we look at
Patrick Mahomes when quote unquote playing his worst yet his
team is in first place fifteen to one.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
It's just I feel like, because it's Patrick.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Mahomes and it is the Kansas City Chiefs, he is
not appreciated in his time. Like in ten years he
might be appreciated, but right now we don't appreciate it,
appreciate him. And I'm not saying that he was nubbed,
because yeah, how do you not name the.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Three that were named? I get that. I just can't
believe he wasn't named. I feel like both feelings can
be true.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Jason Stewarts, you want to get honest about Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Here, Well, like most things, like, I follow the way
that things are covered, and I'm most interested in how
things are covered, and I think Patrick Mahomes has been
given a pass this year because of their record, and
I understand wins is what it's all about, but I
just don't think he has played well. And more importantly,
(27:32):
I don't think the Chiefs are an offense that anyone fears.
I think they have been exposed the past what two seasons.
The fact that they've won the Super Bowl and won
all these games is kind of masked that. But they
just seem so easy to defend now. So I don't
know if that's a Mahomes sing or a Andy Reid thing,
(27:53):
or just a scheme thing, but I think that that
has been like the most unreported part of the Chiefs
because they win. But if we're having an honest conversation,
Mahomes isn't the same, Andy Reid's not the same. And
I guess we'll see how it plays over the next
six weeks. But that's kind of my take on it.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think football heads know that this is a defensive
football team. That's what it is. In their defense and
offense play in concert with each other, which is so
vital in the National Football League. You can't have a
team that goes up and down the field, scoring every
two minutes putting your defense back on the field just
(28:31):
it doesn't work. And if you're gonna do that, then
you better be scoring thirty and forty points a game.
See the Detroit Lions right now. Like the problem with
the Detroit Lions and why the Aiden Hutchinson injury is
so bad and this isn't anything new, but because he
was such a legitimate threat as a pass rusher, and
Detroit's going to score points and they're likely going to
(28:52):
score it quickly and while they can, while they can
ground and pound, when you have a healthy David Montgomery,
now you see, Okay, maybe not going to be able
to ground and pound as much because we lost our
star running back. So we're gonna have to score a
lot of points. And now our defense is gonna be
on the field, and we don't have our best pass
rusher because he's got a broken leg, and so now
we can't get after the quarterback. So we're gonna be
(29:14):
giving up a bunch of points as well. The Chiefs
work so well and they're so good defensively. They've actually
been a defensive football team the last two years. But
all we care about with quarterbacks is winning and winning
super Bowls for the most part, and I think that's
what Patrick Mahomes is doing. But the Chiefs are a
defensive football team right now. They're not an offensive football team.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Well, yeah, they had offensive weapons that they were missing
and then they just got them back. In the last
five games, Patrick Mahomes has zero interceptions when he has
eleven on the season, but in the last.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Five he has zero.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
You know, he's out of one hundred and twenty six
at two hundred a temps. He's completed one hundred and
twenty six so sixty three for over twelve hundred yards
in the last five games. And I just think like
in the later half, it's been a different story.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
And this isn't I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
I think like the Chiefs were going through the motions,
but I say that lightly not going through the motions.
I just think they were doing what they needed to
do to just get the win, when in reality, we're
going to see a different Chiefs team come playoffs. We
are going to see a different playbook.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You think we're going to see more Travis Kelsey I
do which we saw last year in the playoffs exactly.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I feel like they just kind of did what they
needed to do to win. But I agree with you, Dan,
They're definitely a defensive team and there Patrick Mahomes may
not be at the prime that we have seen at
some point, but I just I don't know. I feel
like in the last half of the season, the last
five games or whatever, he definitely looked more Mahomes than
(30:43):
he had do you.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I don't we marvel at the numbers of Lamar Jackson.
We marvel at the numbers of Josh Allen. Is that
what you're saying, Jason, is that we should be like,
if we really want to put Patrick Mahomes in that group,
we should be more about his numbers.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I don't even know it's a number thing for me. Literally,
it comes down to kind of an eye test. If
you watch a Chiefs game, you're just not impressed by
the way they move the ball anymore. And that's been
the case for a couple of years. And I just
think that the reason why I hasn't gotten a whole
lot of coverage because they're winning, and I guess it
doesn't matter, but just sitting and watching a Chiefs game,
I just remember how how impressive they were in those
(31:23):
early Mahomes years. They were so dominant, nobody wanted to
face these guys. I just don't think they have that
aura anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
They don't have Tyreek Hill. It did matter, Yeah, exactly,
And I think that's the that's the point about it.
In fact, I actually think they're I think they're tougher
to beat now than they were early on because of
what their defense has done and they've lost pieces, they
lost the Jerius Snead and they haven't really missed a
(31:50):
beat on defense and another great performance last week. Chris
Jones is not going to play this week. He didn't
play last week. They're a defensive football team. But you
know what, when they are a one score game, they're
likely winning that one score game, or they're gonna be
in a scenario where they got to run the clock down.
It's I've talked about it a bunch of this network,
but the Chiefs with five minutes left to go in
a lead are a masterpiece of getting eleven yards and
(32:13):
they do it in the three plays that they need,
and then they get another eleven, and then they get
another eleven and then you're like, wait, we're at the
two minute warning and we have to use our timeouts
and now or may not get the football back and
it's game over.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
And I feel like, to Jason's point, you might be
right that, like they don't look as good as they
did at one point.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I feel like they like that. They like that.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
You think that they're easier to beat, when in reality,
I don't think so. I don't If they have the
ball and they are down by a score, there's no
way in hell you think that they're not going to
catch up.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah. Yeah, you would think that Patrickmonlins would be able
to do what he needs to do. But their defense
doesn't allow them to get down by any points. It's
they're really, really good. They're the best defensive team, even
with the Pittsburgh Steelers and Chargers to the best defensive team.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They really are. It's just they're a well oiled machine.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Yeah, from from top to bottom, and so like, yeah,
you're right, the defense doesn't let them get ahead too much.
But it's like if if Mahomes has the ball with
two minutes to go, with the one minute ago, I'm like, well,
there they go, there score.
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Speaker 4 (33:54):
So lost in last night Sixers Warriors game? And what
else was on TNT?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Clippers lost?
Speaker 7 (34:00):
That wasn't on TNT, but Clippers lost, Yeah, Celtics and
the tiberwebs was on TNT and then Lakers was not
on TNT, but the Lakers played that one.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
I actually did not.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That wraps up our TV Guide segment on But this
is what was said on TNT by Charles Barkley about
the Lakers and JJ Reddick and our teammate at Fox
Sports Radio, Jason McIntyre aka Jason Monroe, Charles Barkley taking
shots at and I guess anybody and everybody last night
(34:36):
when it comes to the state of the NBA, because
this was a bit unhinged, but Barkley just ended up
going off and they aren't kind of the NBA, And
Jason mcintires called him out on it. JJ Reddick called
him out on it, and Charles Barkley just decided to
return serve with his own vitriol that he threw his way.
He didn't hold back at all. No, absolutely not. So
(34:58):
why would Charles Barkley hold back? But I will say
one thing, and we're gonna hear from Charles in a second.
Actually we'll hear for Charles right now.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
He said something about with the reason people are watching
this crapping product we got JJ. Yeah, I was like
we out there jacking up one hundred threes.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
JJ. I know Jason Monroe, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
But JJ, you come for the king, you bet I miss,
I can get you, brother, because I got Remember, I
got your Lakers games. You can't hide them flalls.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
They got.
Speaker 10 (35:28):
You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of
Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid
of darburn Ham, who did a good job. If you
came out that thing and you were gonna change things
with that same ugly girl, you went on to hang with.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sixty fifty one was your halftime score. We get back
to the highlight.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Rudy Gober.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
He came in after thinking, I can make this thing
work here.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You can make up on that pig. Let us think. Man.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
The best part was Ernie Johnson try to still give
you this and the highlight.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
There's so much into this as well. Like I said,
I said this when negotiations are going on last year.
I don't think that the NBA ever wanted TNT to
be back, and with that was gonna be the absence
of the inside the NBA. And I think that ESPN
and ABC, the biggest rights holder of it, resent what
TNT does because they get all the hype and honestly,
(36:24):
if they are ripping the product then they feel that's
the case. Then it actually affects ESPN and ABC more
because their ratings are down. Now. Whatever the future holds
and they're inside the NBA show that they're gonna figure
up marriage and move on to the future is gonna
be what it's gonna be. But it also at that
point felt like JJ Reddick was not only Lakers head coach,
but also former ESPN employee.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Oh one hundred percent totally.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I don't think that the guys are ruining the product
by being honest on what they see.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
That to me is there's no like.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
They're not employed by ESPN or the league like that,
so they're not supposed to fake it.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
They're gonna be honest with what they seebsolutely.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And as Jason McIntyre changed his name to Jason Monroe
on Twitter just yet he hasn't. He should. Robert Gara
has he done it? Thumbs up? He hasn't changed his
name yet. Pretty good stuff. All right? Well, that was
fun was New Year?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yes, enjoy Week eighteen if you can, because it's the
worst week of the National Football League when half the
games don't matter. Who cares. We'll talk down Monday.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
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How far are we from? Two hundred followers.
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I don't I think people look at Blue Sky as
a if it's political, as a left leaning site. I
just look at it as a a more positive, refreshing place.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
That's what I've been sold from it.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
That's that's that's that's my expectation as well, so that
I will put stuff on there and try to be
just as active as I am on x but I'm
also active, try to be on Instagram, maybe not as much,
and on TikTok and on TikTok. We talked about this
on the show yesterday when Cavino and Rich were here.
I had a TikTok from the Rose Bowl Manzi that
(02:03):
just completely went in a direction that I never thought
would And it was of the flyover prior to the
game during the national anthem, and I just think that
aren't flyovers cool? Like, if you see him at a game.
You've been to a game where there's been a flyover, Yah.
Speaker 5 (02:18):
Fine, everybody's waiting for it. Part of the reason you
pay attention to start.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
And sometimes it's better when you don't know that it's there,
because then all of a sudden surprises and you're like, WHOA.
But I knew that there was a flyover because there's
a flyover every year at the Rose Bowl, And in
fact is I was trying to find my tickets and
looking where I wanted to be. I knew I wanted
to be by the Ohio State fans, and I'm like, well,
this is going to be great because you can see
the sunset on the mountains. But I can also see
the flyover coming from a ways away. So I knew
(02:44):
what I was doing when I recorded this. What I
did not realize was again the political war that has
been unfurled in my comments on TikTok. So I just
wanted to you can check it out at buyer Talk
if it is. But if you want to engage in
a war of words with people, that apparently is the
place to be.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:03):
Definitely not what I would have expected either, posting that it's.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Been it's been crazy. Jason Stewart, have you seen any
of these comments?
Speaker 8 (03:11):
No, but you you did read a few of them
to me, And so just just for so in case
the listener doesn't understand when you say it goes political.
So you're saying that one side of the argument is
we shouldn't spend that gas, money and all the resources
to fly something over a stadium when there are people
starving in our country?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Is that?
Speaker 8 (03:31):
Is that where they're going with this?
Speaker 4 (03:32):
So there's one there's one comment in this and I
screenshot of this, and I don't I don't think. I
don't think I'm going to put it up on Twitter.
I will not put it up on Blue Sky not
we are keeping that controversy free. But I showed Mansi
this and it's just notifications. One person writes, America baby
gave me goosebumps. The next comment was, there goes my
(03:52):
healthcare and college tuition for for what they say for
what is a blank on. I don't think I can
actually used the word. But that's what that's what was,
That's what was written. And here I'm thinking, like, isn't
this awesome at a bowl game? I'm I'm I know
I may be naive in some things. This one completely
(04:14):
caught me off guard, totally naive to what could happen.
And again, it hasn't gone super viral where it's been
like two million views, but it's kind of like one
hundred thousand views and a lot of comments and likes.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
You know, it was a first person that puts something
political as a comment, then the next person felt comfortable
enough to do it. It's a little bit of like
a mob mentality, sure, and so like once it started happening,
it was like people.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
Are like, oh yeah, and it's like, y'all, I was
just at a game. I was just trying to be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
I also and I fell victim because I hate being uncreative.
I hate going with the Norman. It's not that I
try to go against you know, I'm not like salmon
swimming upstream. I just don't want to fall in. But
I didn't know how to describe it. I just did
the good old wait.
Speaker 5 (05:01):
For it, simple.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Wait for it. There are people who are like, see
you wait for it on TikTok swipe like they're like
like like they're completely annoyed by it. And and then
like my favorite comment was like, this is the first
wait for it that actually was worth it, And I'm like,
you know, I wish I could take that one pinned
on top of the comment so everybody could see. But
other people are like, wait for it. Nope, no, thanks,
(05:27):
thank goodness for fast forward. Now I'm taking strays on
my own post. It was just supposed to be some
fun on New Year's Day.
Speaker 9 (05:34):
This is the most amazing study in human psychology, guys,
that I have ever seen. Among the comments, I had
never known that that the stealth bomber was referred to
as the dorito of death in one of the comments.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That's correct too, it was it was.
Speaker 9 (05:50):
The untraditional dorito with two r's spelling. Then we have
are Then we have some inter aircraft trash talking. If
Jean M commented the B one and B fifty two
do all the work, the B two gets all the glory.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Total stray for the B two bomber, absolutely.
Speaker 9 (06:10):
And then another one, another favorite, somebody posted, not that stealthy.
I could see it coming miles away.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yes, well that was kind of the point, because you
see this little dot, this little spec and then you're like, wait,
is that it? And then it gets closer and closer
and closer. So then the goal is after you watch it,
you go back and watch it again and see when
is the first time that you can actually see it
coming by because it is so stealth. I've also learned,
to Isaac's point, that these can also be used as
(06:36):
training hours for pilots. So while it may seem frivolous
and useless to some, these pilots who are flying this
could also be getting training hours. I don't know if
that's correct or not, but that's what they said on TikTok,
So I'm just gonna go.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
With it, right not people don't lie on TikTok.
Speaker 9 (06:52):
Serious question, is there any thing that any of us
could post in this society that is complete immune from
snark or some bizarre idiot reaction the cross section of
which we saw for something that should be fairly harmless
just now.
Speaker 8 (07:11):
No, there's nothing you could possibly I've watched I've watched
Doug Gottlieve over the past two weeks. He had a
rough deceummer. They don't need to get into that. He's
posted his dog a lot on Instagram.
Speaker 5 (07:25):
He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 8 (07:26):
Really hard to attack a dog, A cute dog. I
think that's probably the one sacred thing.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I bet you somebody did, though, did you look through it?
Speaker 8 (07:34):
Won't you spend less time feeding your dog and more
time coaching your team?
Speaker 5 (07:43):
And so the answer is not even dogs are safe.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And then the ASPCA came to Doug's defense and.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
It said, no, keep feeding your dog, please, sir man.
And please don't leave them outside in the cold.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yeah, I can say, Monsey and ironed for Kivino and
Rich like one of the guys back you guys coming
back on Monday. They were just on the herd six
hours ago. I'm sorry that you've had your CNR withdrawal.
All right, show Mons and I a little bit of
grace please, all right. Blue Sky followers again at Dan
(08:19):
Bayer at Dan Byer on Fox on Exit, Monzy Blanos
up at Isaac Longcron at Jason Stewart at Ryan McBain
for Ryan, who's our technical producer. College football playoff is
down to four. Maybe not the final four that we
get excited for in college basketball, but it is a
final four. And honestly, I think that the powers at
be in college football, and especially the television network that
(08:42):
is broadcasting this couldn't be happier with the matchups that
they have got for the final three games. No matter
what happens to the semi finals, you're gonna get something
good in the championship game. And there are may be
better scenarios. Listen, Notre Dame. Everybody knows Notre Dame's the
favorite in terms of the eyes of the TV public.
(09:04):
Maybe they're the favorite actually playing football in the field,
considering that did the Georgia yesterday. Who knows, But you know,
ESPN would love to see Notre Dame in the championship game.
And if you have Ohio State Notre Dame, magnificent, if
you have Texas Notre Dame, superb. If Penn State ends
up knocking off Notre Dame, guess what. Texas Penn State
not too shabby. Ohio State Penn State. Maybe not the
(09:25):
rivalries or the matchup that you would have dreamed of,
but still two really good football teams in a rematch
from what was a really good game earlier this year.
So they really can't lose. Yet. There's nothing good that's
come from any of the conversations when the college football
Playoff in the first two rounds of it so far. Manzi,
it has been. It has been negativity, it has been slander.
It has been anything but great, including some of the
(09:46):
games we've seen on the field.
Speaker 7 (09:48):
Which I think it's not super surprising that though, right,
I mean, the first time trying this twelve team playoff.
Speaker 5 (09:54):
We knew that there were going to be some kinks.
Speaker 7 (09:56):
That they were going to have to iron out, and
you were only going to figure that out after actually
going through the season. But yeah, that first round was
rough to watch. There just hasn't been a lot of
competitive games, and that's what's been hard, because that's what
you want when it comes to the playoffs. I just
don't know how like the conversation is like still about
(10:16):
like expanding to more, when in reality I'm like, why
isn't the conversation to, oh, maybe we should do eight teams.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Yeah, we're gonna get to that in a second. I
want to hear from Kirby Smart first, because I think
all roads lead to what Monty is saying. This is
what Kirby Smart said after yesterday's lost to the Notre
Dame Fighting Irish, the Georgia head coach, when asked on
if it was a coincidence basically that all four teams
with a buy in this college football playoff, all were
doubt losses in the quarterfinals. Here was Kirby Smart.
Speaker 6 (10:44):
Two of those teams were better than the other teams,
to be honest with you, you know, and that is
what it is. That's more about the seeding process and
where it is. But I'm not here to complain about anything,
you know, given the opportunity, Notre Dame and lost probably
their best defensive player. So I don't know how an advantage.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Magnificent answer from a losing coach, a magnificent answer of
taking responsibility, especially when one of the kids on your
own team in jeans ended up getting a fifteen yard penalty.
Magnificent from Kirby Smart. That is how. That is how
you deal with it. And what he did is he
he spoke facts. Because his point was Texas was ranked
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higher than Arizona State, Penn State was ranked higher than
Boise State. They were not seated higher than those schools
because of the seating process that went through. And Manzi,
to your point, all the favorites ended up winning in
the quarterfinals.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Yeah, that's what I was looking.
Speaker 7 (11:38):
I was like, I understand that the bye the teams
that got the buys didn't win, but the teams that
were favored one.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
So isn't that what everybody was expecting?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yeah, that to your point that that maybe we shouldn't
be complaining as much. I think Oregon got screwed with
the seating and how the matchups went. Ohio State wasn't
the eighth best team in college football, and the rankings
would tell you that as much as well. But to
have like Oregon could have played Oregon could have played
Notre Dame, they could have played Texas, they could have
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played Penn State. Maybe a little different with Penn State
because they beat him in the Big Ten Championship game.
But the point is if you took let's say you
just took Texas in Notre Dame, easier matchup for Oregon
because you didn't have the motivation that Ohio State had.
You didn't have Ohio State losing by a point as
time ran out in Autin Stadium, emptying out on the
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field in that game in October. You didn't have any
of that. All of that was motivation and fuel for
Ohio State. And if losing to Michigan wasn't enough, they
can go back to that loss against Oregon and point
to all the things where they were so close to
winning the game and Oregon took a victory lap and
celebrated it by the way as they should, like that
was a huge game that was pointed on the calendar,
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maybe the biggest game of the college football season this
past year prior to the playoff, and Oregon ended up
winning it. So Oregon ended up getting screwed with with
the seating there the bye hurting teams. Maybe maybe it
helped that Ohio State played Tennessee a week and a
half and that there was a layoff. So now do
you want teams to play more and risk injury? I'm sorry,
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ten times out of ten you're taking a buye instead
of playing an extra game.
Speaker 7 (13:15):
I feel like this whole bye thing is also a
conversation lately in the NFL where I'm gonna hold the
NFL a little bit to a higher standard.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
Obviously, but all of.
Speaker 7 (13:24):
The teams with the bye, they did seem to come
out flat though like at first it wasn't.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
It took them a minute to get into it. With
Ohio State.
Speaker 7 (13:35):
Yeah, like you said, they had a momentum, whether it
was revenge, whether it was the week before, but they
had a momentum or I even looked flat for I
mean basically the whole game. But you know, like all
the teams looked like, Okay, we have to get into
a rhythm, while the others weren't. And at the same time,
like you just said, you would still take the buy though.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
Ah yeah, it's not like there used to be a
timeline by was too long. It used to be a
time in college football where teams would stop playing on
November twenty third and then not play until January first.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
That's disgusting and that's what it was.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
That was the old. Isaac remembers that time. Jason remembers
that time. It was more than a month. You would
end the regular season before Thanksgiving, and if you played
on New Year's Day, you wouldn't play until January first.
Speaker 7 (14:21):
But the team sorry, but the team you were playing
also wasn't playing and like everybody had the same buy.
Speaker 5 (14:26):
Yeah, yes, yes, okay, yes, okay.
Speaker 7 (14:29):
I mean that's still gross, but at least everybody was
on the same schedule.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
So Penn State and Oregon ended up playing in the
Big Ten title game on December seventh. Okay, Penn State
then had their game two weeks later against SMU and
their championship game. My point is is Ohio State hadn't
played a game from when they lost to Michigan to
when they played Tennessee in the first round. I don't
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think they were necessarily sluggish. It helps to be at home,
but the break that they had, they ended up having
about a week and a half break, where Oregon had
about a three and a half week break. When you
come out of a buy of an NFL season, sometimes
there are sluggish because you have the week off. I
just don't think that there's anything you could do about it,
because I don't know any team that would rather play
a game than to just advance to the next round
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without having to risk injury and taking what your previous
success allotted you to. You're taking a buy every single time.
What I think screwed Oregon was that they had to
play a motivated Ohio State team. So I get that
there could be some rust there, but if you ride
the wave of the first couple of possessions, you take
off the rust and move forward. I don't think that.
(15:41):
I don't think that there is any excuse that the
teams to Kirby Smart's point of having a team having
the four teams with buys lose that the rust and
by factor had anything to do with it. I just
don't believe it. It's the fact that they were better
teams or there were reasons why the matchups played out
the way that they did, like Ohio State was a
better team than Oregon, that the motivation was there. Vegas
(16:05):
said it was there. Those are the reasons why she
is Wazi Belanios. I'm Dan Byer here on Fox Sports Radio.
Do you buy this buy theory? Jason Stewart No.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
You know, typically when I hear Kirby Smart say something,
I always think he should change his name to Kirby Dumb.
You don't agree, just, you know, just for the punchline,
I let go into that line. So and I can't
call him Kirby Dumb here. I think his answer was
perfect to it and notre Dame losing a player last week,
him losing him, losing his quarterback or whatever. It's all
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pretty much nonsense. I think we need a sample size.
We need two or three years of this, and at
the end of like three years or whatever, if we're
still like zero to twelve with by teams, maybe we
take a look. I want to say it's in an
anomaly this time around. Yeah, yeah, I agree, I think
I think it absolutely is. The other tricky thing about
the first round games, not the quarterfinal games that were
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just played, was you're having teams who are better, who
are the better team at home? Texas was better than Clemson.
It's at Texas. Ohio State was better than Tennessee. It's
at Ohio State. Penn State was better than SMU it's
at Penn's State. Those games are tough to win.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Notre Name is better than Indiana, it was at Notre Dame.
To go on the road and beat those teams is
a tough task no matter who you are. If you're
the number one team in the nation, it would be
difficult to win those games. So when you have an
underseted team, maybe it helps in that sort of way
that you get the game in. But they have those
teams knocked off. I think the first round is going
to be very home field heavy because of the home
field and because they're just better teams. It's a tough
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it's a tough tough road to ho for those teams
that are the lesser seed in those scenarios. But I
think that we've learned something else about this, and that's
that the SEC and the Big Ten are just better
conferences and it's not necessarily about money. It's about the
players that they get, which may go back to money,
but when you look at the field that we have
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now we have two Big Ten teams, an SEC team
and an independent, it also may lead Notre Dame to
making a decision. While it may come up gold and
roses for them right now, Notre Dame not being in
a conference if this format stays, or if they do
expand to fourteen, them not getting an automatic buy because
of a great, great season could hurt them. It could
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hinder them. I think that they would still rather have
had the path of the four teams that had buys
than to follow the path that they ended up playing.
Maybe not could be wrong. Maybe that game against Indiana,
you know, lit a fire under them. Maybe it was
the game at Georgia or against Georgia in New Orleans
yesterday that will now propel them. But I just think
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that you always are taking the buy, and if Notre
Dame ends up even winning the national championship this year,
I don't think that changes of saying we want to
play as many games possible. Maybe to Jason's point, data
will show that, all right, you do want to play
more games because the buys aren't having an effect. But
I just think you risk injury, and that's something that
I would not want to risk. I understand, and trying
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to be as sharp as you can. I just again,
I know said it fifteen times here, but I'm taking
the buy every single time. The final thing to your point, though,
in leading up to all of this and all of
the conversations and all of the teams in the Crappy Game,
I think Manci's right hit the nail right on the
head is that this is we got an expanded playoff,
and all of a sudden, we've expanded it way too much.
(19:24):
They wanted to make everybody happy, and now you could
have made everybody happy in the previous world where you
had five Power five conferences. Now we're entering a world
where you have two dominant leagues. And I know that
the I would love to run on the parade of
the SEC as much as anybody right now, considering the
(19:44):
bragging that they've done and now to say, hey, the
SEC only has one team and they haven't fared well,
in bowl games, we'd be crazy to think that the
ACC or the Big twelve in the Mountain West are
better than the SEC. The competition is between the Big
ten and the SEC, and that's where things really need
to be sorted out. And if you're expanding a playoff,
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what you're likely doing is you're expanding some more of
those teams can end up getting in. And I think
that we they probably did do it too much Manci,
But they're never going back. They're never going back to four.
They're not going to drop back to six or eight.
It's just not going to happen because everybody wants their shot,
everybody wants their piece, and it's going to be fourteen
or sixteen probably sooner rather than later.
Speaker 5 (20:26):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
That makes no sense, especially with the first round being
so not competitive. Like maybe, I mean, maybe they'll learn
because it's hard, you know, looking at did you think
Ohio State was going to crush.
Speaker 5 (20:42):
Oregon the win that they did?
Speaker 4 (20:43):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
You did it?
Speaker 3 (20:44):
So?
Speaker 5 (20:44):
Like do we? Is this on Dan Lanning for not
having his team prepared.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I just think that I think that Oregon got caught
in a bad situation.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
You're being kind, yeah, being very kind.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
And they were not rewarded. They were not rewarded for
what they accomplished this season. They arguably got the most
difficult team.
Speaker 5 (21:05):
To play after having the best season.
Speaker 4 (21:08):
Yes, yes, and there's stuff in this format of the
college football playoff will never be around again because of
all of the errors. But like Oregon deserve to be,
you know, in the final for Final six, but their
their bracket didn't. They played the wrong team. We see
that sometimes on selection Sundays in college basketball, when you're like, ooh,
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that team in a one to eight second round game
that is going to be really difficult for the one seed,
and so they got a bad bracket. But I think
that your point is made is that they're never going
to be twelve teams capable of winning a college football
national championship. And now in this day of the nil
of NL, in the transfer portal and these two big leagues,
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there's never going to be twelve teams that are capable
of winning a national championship. They're going to be about six,
but there's never going to be twelve. And I think
that's what we've really learned here with college football is
when we had four, we didn't know how many actually
could and we wanted to include everybody. So like when
five and six were left out, We're like, ah, geez,
these teams are left out. But how deep can you go?
(22:11):
And I think what we've seen, at least in these
first returns is that, yeah, this is probably about six,
and if you leave seven out, so be it, But eight, nine, ten,
and eleven probably shouldn't be there. Yeah, she's Monty Belanos.
I'm Dan Byer.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
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Speaker 4 (22:37):
New Year's Resolution twenty twenty five, Be more honest. It's
Cavino and Richire on Fox Sports Radio. She's Moncey Blaos.
I'm Dan Bayer.
Speaker 5 (22:45):
That's your resolution.
Speaker 4 (22:46):
We're gonna get honest about Patrick Mahomes, Okay, but I
also have to be honest about something I did not
know if I should be talking about buys for the
twentieth time in a row, or save you from your
coffee fit. Yeah, we encourage you to go to the
podcast and always listen to Cavino and Rich. But there's
an easter egg in there and it's Moncey coughing up
(23:08):
her lung. In the last segment, it was at any
point did you think should I leave the studio or
should I? Okay, I did?
Speaker 7 (23:16):
I did, and then I was like, no, It's gonna
get better. Like I almost was like, maybe I'll walk out.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
There is a point I said to myself, do I
still talk about this or should I tend to my
co host well being? And I wasn't sure, but I
know what Mancy would have wanted me to do. She
would have wanted me to talk on.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
That's right, keep talking on. Yes, if you would have stopped, Cater,
I would be like, Dad, what are you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:41):
I'm not dying, just coughing?
Speaker 2 (23:43):
What are you doing?
Speaker 4 (23:44):
Keep going? The show was go on and I had
to land the plane at some point. To get back
to your main point that you made, is we just
we we got we grew too fast too soon.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
With the college football I think so.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
And I think that your your analysis of that is
spot on. And I get I've loved college foot well,
you know, since the day I was born, and you're
somewhat new to the sport, but I think that your
appreciation of it is actually more in this spotlight because
I could think of a way to romanticize anything. And
for your point of just being like, yeah, it's just
(24:17):
not as many good teams, I think is the point
that we needed to go to. It's just we just
had to circle around the airport before we could land
the plane backs at back at Manti International.
Speaker 7 (24:26):
Yes, yes, because I was dying for just a few seconds.
But I like looked at Jason to give them like
a like a U talk because I'm dying over here.
I smiled at Isaac, so he knew I wasn't really dying.
I gave him a little bit.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
I can't see that because of how we're sitting.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
So I was trying to cough away from you.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
I think, smart move, Yeah, smart move.
Speaker 5 (24:46):
I mean I contact.
Speaker 7 (24:47):
I was like, guys, some good I just let me
cough up along for a.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
Second, just moving forward, moving forward. If any of us
are dying of coughing or just have a bad cough,
just remove yourself and please take care of yourself or
find help.
Speaker 7 (25:01):
But no, it's just you know, when because I lost
my voice, but when you talk, you kind of like
aggravate it, right, That's that's all.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
It was.
Speaker 8 (25:08):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 9 (25:10):
I have to say, it did kind of remind me
of the time that Nick Saban allegedly stepped over the
injured Dolphins player on the practice field back in the day.
Speaker 4 (25:19):
I just kept going as Monty is sitting there, I
wanted she had a full bottle of waters.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Gone now, gone now.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
I honestly could not get to my next point because
and I just it was about eighth. It was great,
It was it was. It was just great to find
out that my co host is practiced practically losing a lung,
but she's good. And I couldn't turn and do my
turn that you would see on video normally and look
at her all right, honest conversations. There was some honesty there.
There was Patrick Mahomes left off the AFC Pro Bowl roster.
(25:51):
I have absolutely no problem with it. I think it's
actually a pretty obvious answer, and in fact, Patrick mahomes
season just doesn't it doesn't compare to the other greats
of the quarterbacks that were named. In fact, I think
that there are probably other quarterbacks. I don't think Patrick
Mahomes would have been fourth when you're looking at AFC quarterbacks.
(26:12):
I think justin Herbert would have been just as much,
if not more, of a possible candidate to be the
quarterback in the Pro Bowl for the AFCRE for the
Pro Bowl games. Patrick Mahomes not a Pro bowler is
not a big deal in my mind.
Speaker 7 (26:25):
It's not that it's in the gregand scheme of things.
Of course, it's not a big deal, and he probably
doesn't care. But it is interesting how we look at
Patrick Mahomes when quote unquote playing his worst yet his
team is in first place fifteen to one.
Speaker 5 (26:41):
It's just I feel like, because it's Patrick.
Speaker 7 (26:46):
Mahomes and it is the Kansas City Chiefs, he is
not appreciated in his time. Like in ten years he
might be appreciated, but right now we don't appreciate it,
appreciate him. And I'm not saying that he was nubbed,
because yeah, how do you not name the.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
Three that were named? I get that. I just can't
believe he wasn't named. I feel like both feelings can
be true.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Jason Stewarts, you want to get honest about Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 8 (27:12):
Here, Well, like most things, like, I follow the way
that things are covered, and I'm most interested in how
things are covered, and I think Patrick Mahomes has been
given a pass this year because of their record, and
I understand wins is what it's all about, but I
just don't think he has played well. And more importantly,
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I don't think the Chiefs are an offense that anyone fears.
I think they have been exposed the past what two seasons.
The fact that they've won the Super Bowl and won
all these games is kind of masked that. But they
just seem so easy to defend now. So I don't
know if that's a Mahomes sing or a Andy Reid thing,
(27:53):
or just a scheme thing, but I think that that
has been like the most unreported part of the Chiefs
because they win. But if we're having an honest conversation,
Mahomes isn't the same, Andy Reid's not the same. And
I guess we'll see how it plays over the next
six weeks. But that's kind of my take on it.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I think football heads know that this is a defensive
football team. That's what it is. In their defense and
offense play in concert with each other, which is so
vital in the National Football League. You can't have a
team that goes up and down the field, scoring every
two minutes putting your defense back on the field just
(28:31):
it doesn't work. And if you're gonna do that, then
you better be scoring thirty and forty points a game.
See the Detroit Lions right now. Like the problem with
the Detroit Lions and why the Aiden Hutchinson injury is
so bad and this isn't anything new, but because he
was such a legitimate threat as a pass rusher, and
Detroit's going to score points and they're likely going to
(28:52):
score it quickly and while they can, while they can
ground and pound, when you have a healthy David Montgomery,
now you see, Okay, maybe not going to be able
to ground and pound as much because we lost our
star running back. So we're gonna have to score a
lot of points. And now our defense is gonna be
on the field, and we don't have our best pass
rusher because he's got a broken leg, and so now
we can't get after the quarterback. So we're gonna be
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giving up a bunch of points as well. The Chiefs
work so well and they're so good defensively. They've actually
been a defensive football team the last two years. But
all we care about with quarterbacks is winning and winning
super Bowls for the most part, and I think that's
what Patrick Mahomes is doing. But the Chiefs are a
defensive football team right now. They're not an offensive football team.
Speaker 7 (29:32):
Well, yeah, they had offensive weapons that they were missing
and then they just got them back. In the last
five games, Patrick Mahomes has zero interceptions when he has
eleven on the season, but in the last.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Five he has zero.
Speaker 7 (29:44):
You know, he's out of one hundred and twenty six
at two hundred a temps. He's completed one hundred and
twenty six so sixty three for over twelve hundred yards
in the last five games. And I just think like
in the later half, it's been a different story.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
And this isn't I was gonna say.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
I think like the Chiefs were going through the motions,
but I say that lightly not going through the motions.
I just think they were doing what they needed to
do to just get the win, when in reality, we're
going to see a different Chiefs team come playoffs. We
are going to see a different playbook.
Speaker 4 (30:15):
You think we're going to see more Travis Kelsey I
do which we saw last year in the playoffs exactly.
Speaker 7 (30:21):
I feel like they just kind of did what they
needed to do to win. But I agree with you, Dan,
They're definitely a defensive team and there Patrick Mahomes may
not be at the prime that we have seen at
some point, but I just I don't know. I feel
like in the last half of the season, the last
five games or whatever, he definitely looked more Mahomes than
(30:43):
he had do you.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
I don't we marvel at the numbers of Lamar Jackson.
We marvel at the numbers of Josh Allen. Is that
what you're saying, Jason, is that we should be like,
if we really want to put Patrick Mahomes in that group,
we should be more about his numbers.
Speaker 8 (31:01):
I don't even know it's a number thing for me. Literally,
it comes down to kind of an eye test. If
you watch a Chiefs game, you're just not impressed by
the way they move the ball anymore. And that's been
the case for a couple of years. And I just
think that the reason why I hasn't gotten a whole
lot of coverage because they're winning, and I guess it
doesn't matter, but just sitting and watching a Chiefs game,
I just remember how how impressive they were in those
(31:23):
early Mahomes years. They were so dominant, nobody wanted to
face these guys. I just don't think they have that
aura anymore.
Speaker 4 (31:30):
They don't have Tyreek Hill. It did matter, Yeah, exactly,
And I think that's the that's the point about it.
In fact, I actually think they're I think they're tougher
to beat now than they were early on because of
what their defense has done and they've lost pieces, they
lost the Jerius Snead and they haven't really missed a
(31:50):
beat on defense and another great performance last week. Chris
Jones is not going to play this week. He didn't
play last week. They're a defensive football team. But you
know what, when they are a one score game, they're
likely winning that one score game, or they're gonna be
in a scenario where they got to run the clock down.
It's I've talked about it a bunch of this network,
but the Chiefs with five minutes left to go in
a lead are a masterpiece of getting eleven yards and
(32:13):
they do it in the three plays that they need,
and then they get another eleven, and then they get
another eleven and then you're like, wait, we're at the
two minute warning and we have to use our timeouts
and now or may not get the football back and
it's game over.
Speaker 7 (32:24):
And I feel like, to Jason's point, you might be
right that, like they don't look as good as they
did at one point.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
I feel like they like that. They like that.
Speaker 7 (32:33):
You think that they're easier to beat, when in reality,
I don't think so. I don't If they have the
ball and they are down by a score, there's no
way in hell you think that they're not going to
catch up.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
Yeah. Yeah, you would think that Patrickmonlins would be able
to do what he needs to do. But their defense
doesn't allow them to get down by any points. It's
they're really, really good. They're the best defensive team, even
with the Pittsburgh Steelers and Chargers to the best defensive team.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
They really are. It's just they're a well oiled machine.
Speaker 7 (33:06):
Yeah, from from top to bottom, and so like, yeah,
you're right, the defense doesn't let them get ahead too much.
But it's like if if Mahomes has the ball with
two minutes to go, with the one minute ago, I'm like, well,
there they go, there score.
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Speaker 4 (33:54):
So lost in last night Sixers Warriors game? And what
else was on TNT?
Speaker 5 (34:00):
Clippers lost?
Speaker 7 (34:00):
That wasn't on TNT, but Clippers lost, Yeah, Celtics and
the tiberwebs was on TNT and then Lakers was not
on TNT, but the Lakers played that one.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
I actually did not.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
That wraps up our TV Guide segment on But this
is what was said on TNT by Charles Barkley about
the Lakers and JJ Reddick and our teammate at Fox
Sports Radio, Jason McIntyre aka Jason Monroe, Charles Barkley taking
shots at and I guess anybody and everybody last night
(34:36):
when it comes to the state of the NBA, because
this was a bit unhinged, but Barkley just ended up
going off and they aren't kind of the NBA, And
Jason mcintires called him out on it. JJ Reddick called
him out on it, and Charles Barkley just decided to
return serve with his own vitriol that he threw his way.
He didn't hold back at all. No, absolutely not. So
(34:58):
why would Charles Barkley hold back? But I will say
one thing, and we're gonna hear from Charles in a second.
Actually we'll hear for Charles right now.
Speaker 10 (35:06):
He said something about with the reason people are watching
this crapping product we got JJ. Yeah, I was like
we out there jacking up one hundred threes.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
JJ. I know Jason Monroe, I don't know who that is.
Speaker 10 (35:17):
But JJ, you come for the king, you bet I miss,
I can get you, brother, because I got Remember, I
got your Lakers games. You can't hide them flalls.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
They got.
Speaker 10 (35:28):
You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of
Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid
of darburn Ham, who did a good job. If you
came out that thing and you were gonna change things
with that same ugly girl, you went on to hang with.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Sixty fifty one was your halftime score. We get back
to the highlight.
Speaker 4 (35:43):
Rudy Gober.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
He came in after thinking, I can make this thing
work here.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
You can make up on that pig. Let us think. Man.
Speaker 7 (35:55):
The best part was Ernie Johnson try to still give
you this and the highlight.
Speaker 4 (36:02):
There's so much into this as well. Like I said,
I said this when negotiations are going on last year.
I don't think that the NBA ever wanted TNT to
be back, and with that was gonna be the absence
of the inside the NBA. And I think that ESPN
and ABC, the biggest rights holder of it, resent what
TNT does because they get all the hype and honestly,
(36:24):
if they are ripping the product then they feel that's
the case. Then it actually affects ESPN and ABC more
because their ratings are down. Now. Whatever the future holds
and they're inside the NBA show that they're gonna figure
up marriage and move on to the future is gonna
be what it's gonna be. But it also at that
point felt like JJ Reddick was not only Lakers head coach,
but also former ESPN employee.
Speaker 5 (36:43):
Oh one hundred percent totally.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I don't think that the guys are ruining the product
by being honest on what they see.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
That to me is there's no like.
Speaker 7 (36:53):
They're not employed by ESPN or the league like that,
so they're not supposed to fake it.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
They're gonna be honest with what they seebsolutely.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
And as Jason McIntyre changed his name to Jason Monroe
on Twitter just yet he hasn't. He should. Robert Gara
has he done it? Thumbs up? He hasn't changed his
name yet. Pretty good stuff. All right? Well, that was
fun was New Year?
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Everybody?
Speaker 4 (37:16):
Yes, enjoy Week eighteen if you can, because it's the
worst week of the National Football League when half the
games don't matter. Who cares. We'll talk down Monday.
Speaker 5 (37:23):
Bye.
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