February 19, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Rich Ohrnberger in for C&R as they discuss Brad Underwood deciding to not have his team shake hands with Wisconsin after their loss because of a virus spreading through their team + Rich explains why he thinks Aaron Rodgers should take the season off!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five
to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for Commedo on Rich at Foxsports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It is now the excuse that tops all excuses, and
you can use it pretty much anywhere you want. Welcome
in as we are broadcasting live from the tierraq dot
com studios tierrec dot com. We'll help you get there
on unmached selection as free shipping, free road as a protection,
and over ten thousands are recommended in solos tierraq dot com.
The way tire buying should be Rich Orberger. How are
(00:43):
you today, excellent Dan Byer, how are you? I am
doing I am doing swimmingly and I am doing even
better because I see Iowa Sam there, I see Bree
as our executive producer Mantzi Blano sat the news desk.
We're ready to rock. We've got a battle. All the
sex is coming up later on in the show a
(01:03):
tag team events. Mancey is not feeling it right now.
There is some drama going on between bri and Mancy.
They are FSR besties, but Brianna muro Are, executive producer,
failed to include Mancy on our pre show email last Rich,
(01:23):
did you notice this?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know what I did and a layering mistake And
I yeah, I couldn't believe it when I saw it,
and uh, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Figured it was intentional. Thank you. But you know what,
I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want
to spark that flame.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, no, we put the flame to the masses.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now, wow, everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Everybody knows, and it was not intentional.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You guys should know.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
That's worse.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
That's worse.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I wasn't even on her mind.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
This is that really sounds like something Bree would say.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Bree, Bree, this is first of all, in that situation,
say less, don't say anything. But if you are going
to say something, you are going to say something, just
say I'm sick. Yeah, just say I'm sick. That seems
to be rich. That seems to be the ultimate excuse
ever since COVID. Now is I'm sick?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It is almost bulletproof, it really is, it really is.
It's amazing, like you know, I mean, it's like you know,
whatever it is. I mean, even birds are doing that now.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
They're like, oh my gosh, we don't feel like laying eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's like, well, we got the flu.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's everywhere, yeah, dude. And it was on
display in Madison, Wisconsin last night after the Badger's tomped
the Illinois fighting a line. I In a Big Ten showdown,
teams do what they normally do at the end of
the game. They line up, they get near the scorers table,
and then they start to shake hands and say good game,
(02:53):
good game. But this was different. After the ninety five
seventy four victory, there was a stop by the Illinois bench.
And now we have seen drama happen at mid court
of handshake lines before at the Coal Center when Juwan
Howard ended up slapping a Wisconsin assistant Joe Kravinhoff a
(03:14):
couple of seasons ago, after some late game dramatics.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
This was nothing of the sort.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In fact, let's let Illinois head coach Brad Underwood explain
why the teams did not shake hands after last night's
Big Ten showdown.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
At the end of the day, guys, we don't have
very many healthy bodies. Jake Davis got sick right after
pregame said he wanted to try to start, but he
didn't even join us at halftime. He was in the restroom.
That's why we didn't shake hands with them after the game.
They don't need this. But thirty eight years, I've never
seen anything like what's gone through our team.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So, like the Birds, rich Ornberger, Illinois is like, listen,
we are sick, we are not feeling well. We do
not want to give it to Wisconsin. Is that a
valid argument to not shake a team's hand after the game.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, well, I guess nowadays it is.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean they speaking of the Birds, they laid an
egg too after that lost to Wisconsin. He sounds exasperated.
Brad Underwood sounds frustrated.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sometimes you go through a rash of injuries, and sometimes
a certain injury is contagious. Dan, Like I remember there
were certain years where everybody was spraining ankles or it
felt like everybody was tearing acls, you know, I mean
everybody's getting a concussion. Like there's kind of like an
injury doujour, you know, depending on the team, depending on
(04:42):
the season in this case, or Illinois hoops its illness,
and it's been a couple of different varieties, you know,
flu bug, stomach bug, just wearing this team down. And
it doesn't get easier for them because they're scheduled against
Duke in New York at Medicine Square Garden coming up
this weekend, and so we'll see how they're feeling for
that one. But goodness gracious, here's what I will say.
(05:06):
In today's day and age. It is an excuse. But
this is only very recent. You know, we're not too
far departed from a time where illness wasn't really an excuse.
You kind of had to be crawling from your bed
to the to the floor to get excused from a
(05:27):
practice or a game where But we're living in a
new normal, Dan, and you're right, it really did. It
was triggered from the pandemic, Sam Iowa.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sam, you have the same thoughts as me when you
see them, say hold up, no shaking in the hands,
let's walk back to the locker room and just give
thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And your thought was all well and good, very thoughtful
on Brad Underwood's part. But you've been handling the same basketball,
or at least during you're playing with the game you're
you're you guys are breathing on you under the brim,
so there's close contact for two hours. What does it
matter if you up or handshaker, slap hands on the
way out. You've already got the germs.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I've been so spottying up on the block with this
dude for the last two hours, putting my hands all
over his back, hacking. I'm breathing the whole nine yards. Yet,
let's not do the handshake line, because that would be
that'd be reckless, dangerous and downright silly.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, I never thought of it.
You guys bring up a different aspect of this. You know,
I didn't look in terms of the handshake line.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I do like it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It wouldn't bother me if it was a part of
the game or wasn't you know, it wouldn't really I
wouldn't miss it either way. I kind of feel similar
to the national anthem. I think it's a nice moment.
I don't necessarily think it's requisite or necessary. I just
sort of feel like everybody's there for the sport of it, right,
everybody's there to see Illinois Wisconsin or Illinois Duke. Nobody
(06:57):
really cares if they shake hands, nobody. I don't think
anybody is really all that passionate about the national anthem
being played before games. I mean certain people certainly aren't.
Obviously during the kneeling situation with Colin Kaepernick, I think
a lot of people realize that maybe they appreciate it
more than they even thought. But I think we do
(07:19):
certain things that are customary before or after games that
are relatively superfluous. So whether they shook hands or not,
I agree it doesn't really matter for a number of reasons,
but especially germ transmission, because I think anything that was
going to be transmitted happened on the court.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
There's no doubt in just walking by, saying good game,
shaking hands quick, just put a tub with sanitizer at
the end. Yeah, that's all that you'd have to do.
I even saw Brad Underwood speaking to a couple of
the Wisconsin players afterwards, telling him some of the illnesses
that his team has gone through and explaining what happened,
(08:00):
and they all understood everything. Everything was good. But you
know what I did like about it. I just loved
the thumbs up. We're walking away and the NBA now
has turned into a love fest. Where everybody hugs each
other after.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
The game Jersey.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, and we complain about like while the All Star
Game isn't competitive and maybe it's because everybody's friends. Now,
that's been an argument that has been made. There's different
ways to do it. I don't think anybody listening to
this show would argue that the handshake at the end
of the Stanley Cup playoffs is amazing of each series
when it's when it's done. But you know what they
don't do. They don't do it every game and so
(08:39):
so the the point is, do we need to have
a handshake at the end of every single game in
college basketball? Maybe at the maybe NCAA tournament only I'm
not sure, but last night it just not happening made
me think like, all right, is this is this necessary?
Do we actually have to do it? I don't mind
(09:00):
the NFL's way. It's more of maybe more of what
the what the NBA does now. But because there's more guys,
you can avoid people like the Miko Ryan's avoided Aaron Rodgers.
I'm not sure what the perfect scenario is, but if
we were to rank them, I know hockey is number one.
I mean, baseball doesn't bring out the losing team baseball,
(09:23):
just like going the dugout, the winning team actually gets
all together and celebrates themselves. I'm not sure what is
exactly right, but I just know that the best one
is hockey at the end of their playoff series.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think it's kind of neat that it's like, hey,
this is the sendoff and it's like, hey, go win
the rest of them now kind of thing after you
play a series against the team. I don't Again, I
don't really spend a lot of time thinking about it
until it becomes a story. Like you brought up the
fact that there was a slap across the face from
(09:53):
Juwan Howard at one point, Like, yeah, then I'm gonna
think about the handshake line and whether or not it's necessary,
you know, in this case, you know, coach Underwood decides
to cancel it because of illness transmission.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Okay, yeah, I'll think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But outside of that, it is such an afterthought for
me from a fan standpoint, now, from an athlete standpoint,
when I was playing collegiately, when I was playing in
the NFL, was it kind of nice that it was
customary for players to walk out to midfield or you know, somewhere,
you know, meeting in the middle between the two sidelines
(10:28):
and say hello to some of maybe some of the
familiar faces on that sideline, you know, either buddies who
used to play with or you know, played with in college,
you know, or played against. Yeah, I kind of think
it's kind of nice. But from this the fan standpoint,
I don't think it does anything for anybody. So if
it just win away, if it's a problem enough for anybody,
(10:50):
I don't really think anybody would care all that much.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
If in your hierarchy, in your rankings, are you looking
for other Penn State or on the other sideline, are
you looking at the guy that you battled for sixty
minutes on the field. Where are you Who are you
going to first in the handshake line at the end
of your NFL game?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's typically someone like a college teammate or a guy
who I used to play with as a teammate during
my pro career, you know, seeking them out, especially if
it's somebody you've kept in touch with, you know, because
usually what's odd about a football season is you usually
at some point leading up to the game, you go
(11:33):
radio dark, and it's never usually discussed. And this might
be interesting to certain people, but when you have a
buddy on an opposing team, it's such a game of chess,
and it's such a war game. You would never want
anybody even to assume that you're passing along trade secrets
or you're doing anything other than prepare for your side
(11:56):
of the battle. So I mean, at a certain point,
the phone goes dead, like you're not communicating with that
person anymore until after the football game. It is kind
of a strange thing, and it's never discussed. It's never like, oh,
your buddy of ten years, who you've been either playing
with or against all that time, you know who, maybe
you've even celebrated holidays together. You know, you say, hey,
(12:18):
you know, Monday of game week, we're not texting each other,
like no, But it happens naturally, and then after the
game you get to say hello again. It's like, all right,
we were enemies for sixty minutes. What's going on? How's
everybody at home?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, it fits, but it's understood between you two. Yeah,
exactly right, Like there's there's nothing wrong with that. I've
always felt and this is perfect talking to a former
New England Patriot. I've joked on this network half joking,
half serious. That's someone like Tom Brady. Yeah, okay, Tom
Brady after the game. Everybody wants to meet Tom, right
of course. So if you're a player that went to
(12:55):
school with Tom Brady, totally cool. If you're a backup
special teamer you can't shake hand, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
That is probably true.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And there aren't guys who are trying to get in
on it, right, I think there needs to be a
velvet rope with the NFL's top stars on who can
shake their hands.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If I was playing in a game, you know, and
I was walking past you know, a Peinton Manning or
I don't know an Aaron Rodgers or you know, I
guess when when he was an opponent and not a
teammate of Philip Rivers or Drew Brees, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, I might.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I might slap a high five, or you know, pat
a guy on the butt and be like, hey, hey,
great game, you know whatever it is just in passing.
But I would never make a point to introduce myself
and certainly not.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Torn Berger New England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, damn, glad to meet you. I'm rushing this
frat next year. I mean like it's it's uh, I
don't know, it's got.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I always felt weirder when I was a backup, Like
if I had close to nothing to do with the game,
I absolutely would feel too sheepish or embarrassed to run
up to somebody and be like, hey, now's the time
where you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Know where Aaron Rodgers or.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Peyton Manning needs to know who I am when I'm
the you know, the second string swing tackle on the Patriots, Right,
that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And I've said, like, there's only so many hands Tom
Brady or Patrick Mahomes can shake, so you can't waste
them on people there's otherwise gonna be out.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There the whole post game. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I never really thought about that, but yeah, at some
point you do run out of handshakes.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
You just don't know when.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Next thing you know, it's twenty minutes after the game
and you're still out there trying to talk to the
people like it should be opposing starting quarterback. I actually
think all quarterback room is allowed to talk to other
opponents quarterback, even if it's Mahomes or Brady or yeah, yeah,
Joe Burrow whatever college good starting defense can Yeah, any
offensive star, Yeah can talk to the quarterback of the
(14:59):
other team. But side of that, and maybe a coach,
a coach, yeah in that way. Yeah, I'll tell you
what strength coach that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Uh huh, can't do it. Yeah, quality control guide.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Even like a running backs coach or a tight ends coach,
you know what I mean, Like, look, we know what
the deal is. Chances are you're holding up the scout card,
you know, the scout team cards a practice like like layoff,
you know, I mean, like you said, they're running out
of and it is a little bit of a hierarchy,
like you you put it, and it's it's a funny.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's a funny thing, but everybody respects it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And then also when the qbs go into their little
like half hearted jog, they put their head down and
they start jogging for Yeah, that's definitely not the time
to come up. And yeah, I mean it's over. It
is over.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
After thinking about this, and I don't know if other
people agree, but there is something about what Major League
Baseball does because It's like the to the victor goes
the spoil. There is no shaking of the other hands
of the other team. If you win and you're at home,
(16:07):
you stay on the field and celebrate. You know, if
it's top of the ninth, he close it out. Guess
what closer gets to pat the catcher on the you know,
the backside. They all get in the line, everybody celebrates.
Losing team immediately just packs up the crap and goes
in the dugout. If you have a walk off, if
you win it, guess what home team's celebrating at home plate. Well,
(16:28):
the other team is quickly ushered off the field and
shoved into their locker room. Like I think that is
that is the way that it should go. If you
were to watch a handshake in a college basketball game,
you wouldn't know who won or lost, but sure you
know who won or lost in a major league baseball game.
And I'm almost thinking, like that's the way to go.
Winning team gets to stay on the court or field
(16:49):
or however it is, celebrate. Other team just needs to
be needs to be ushered off. I don't know about
flag planting, hits a little too close to home, maybe
not done with that, but maybe Major League Baseball has
it right and just celebrating with your own people, I
think maybe you're right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean, also, it'll avoid some of the I don't
want to say catastrophes, but some of the you know,
unsavory moments that we've seen. But also, you know, some
of that breeds contempt obviously, but new rivalries sometimes that
creates more interest in the sports. So there is something
(17:24):
to be said about all that. This is, after all,
a business of entertainment. You know, you're not just playing sports,
you're also entertaining people.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And when you have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
More I don't know, rivalry or storyline to grasp onto,
especially when we're talking about a divisional rival in football
or divisional rival in baseball or basketball. Divisions aren't as important,
but conference rival, you know, something like that. Maybe maybe
it's more important to see a little you know, post game.
I don't want to say shoving or shouting, but you know,
(17:57):
if there's you know, a mean glare pastor yeah, I
don't know, I mean stuff like that, it goes viral
and people get more interested as a result.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
As we kind of and I'm not mocking Illinois or
what happened last night. I think the germ thing is funny,
totally get it. I think what Day in Wisconsin did
was good. There was no bad sportsmanship at all when
I watch those handshake lines. First of all, I love
it when Tom is a wins at Michigan State because
it looks like he is so apologetic to the other coach.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, like I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Know how we did it, man, I'm sorry, like for
somehow we pull this out.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
The guys.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now, the all time winning is Big ten coach, you
know again of all time, recently passing Bob Knight, But
he is so like apologetic, like darning and I'm sorry
we won this game.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So like that portion is neat.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
The other thing that I will say that I do
watch in the handshake line, so maybe I shouldn't be
so anti against it is when a kid goes off
for like thirty eight points in a loss and how
the other team all stop to like congratulate him, like
there's a backup, Like they just fly by everybody else
because who cares. But the one kid who had thirty
eight points and still lost. The winning team is like,
(19:11):
hey man, great game, You're on fire because they can
say that they won the game. They can give the
kid his props, but I always will look at that,
all right, what are they gonna do to the poor
kid who lost the game but had to score fifty
percent of his team's points just to keep them in there.
I do appreciate that portion of the handshake line as well.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's It's not a completely useless or vestigial
part of the game. I do think though, it is
interesting that it highlights something that is a part of
our life. And I'm not sure if we'll ever one
hundred percent get back to what it was prior to
the twenty twenty basketball season, which is that illness is
(19:51):
really really considered when you know you're setting your starting
roster and rotation, or you know you're you're thinking about,
you know, the gamesmanship of it all.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Like it just was such an.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Afterthought unless the player again was knocking on death's door,
illness was rarely talked about. Meanwhile, you know, on the
other side of the pandemic, here we are five years out.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's still very much a part of the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's very much a part of the conversation, and it
is completely acceptable for a team to use, you know,
a stomach bug as an excuse not to line up
and do what's customary. It's it's an interesting world we
live in, you know, looking back on what we all
went through collectively, but through the sports lens also.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I do quickly want to get your thoughts on this
because I do want to bring in Iowa Sam, because
we had this discussion recently. Iowa Sam believes Rich and
Sam please confirm it. I don't want to put any
words in your mouth, but if you say you're sick
in that you have diarrhea, like, because you're admitting to
something that is embarrassing, you must have that ailment, do you?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Sam?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is that what's your Originally?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I had that take originally, but then you talked
me through why it is such a great excuse when
you go to the most extreme ailment you could be facing.
It's very clever to to You're gonna you're gonna lie
and you're gonna take You're gonna take your dignity down
with the lie, and you're gonna say, oh my god,
I I made a mess in my pants. I can't
(21:23):
make it to work today. So you're you're gonna swallow
your dignity but you're gonna get the day off.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah no, that's so Dan.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You actually we kind of evolved this take.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Okay, so you're off of that now. I'm off of
it because I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
What you you're like, the end all be all excuse
is the most extreme thing you can.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Come up with.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, I I I do not disagree with this. Like, Okay,
if I'm an employer, all right, forget coach, forget what
if I'm an employer and one of my employees, you know,
we're counting on them to be there it's a meeting,
or you know, our lunch rush is about to start
at the restaurant, whatever it may be. And you know
this is a server who you know has experienced. We
(22:01):
got a bunch of younger all of a sudden they
called me up and they go, hey, boss, listen, was
on my way to work.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And let's just put it this way. I'm gonna have
to have the front seat reoppulstered.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean, you know the fact that you know there's
there's there's courage in that conversation, there's conviction there.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So I'm gonna be like, yeah, you know what, you've
earned yourself a day off we're all set, we'll figure.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It out with it is the go to, Like if
you want to like the worse it is, that's the
more that you want the day off.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Although now with COVID completely different deal. Now people are like, yeah,
go ahead, stay home. Yeah, you don't have to shake hands,
don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It used to be how bad do you want it?
And now it's just an automatic.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think brand Underwood in the like elongated clip, was
I guess so and so was in the bathroom? Like
you didn't give the details of what was going on,
but again, like you know, just selling saying what's happening.
But when you hear stuff like that, sometimes it's people
trying to get out of stuff. All right, He's Rich Ornberger.
I'm Dan Byer in for Comuno and Rich. Here on
Fox Sports Radios. We are live from the Tirec dot
Com studios. Coming up next, Aaron Rodgers is looking for
(23:02):
a new team. But should he be someone here doesn't
think so that Next on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports radio
dot Com.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Go ton, Go Meet hooks Up.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
For me.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Germ Talk here on Fox Sports Radio. It's Givino and Rich.
She's Rich Ornberger. I'm Dan Byer in for Steven Rich
or in for the Dan Patrick Show earlier today. So
glad that you're hanging out with us on this Wednesday.
Rich has some advice for Aaron Rodgers, who may be
looking for a new team in twenty twenty five. We'll
hear that in a second as we are live from
(23:48):
the tyrerec dot Com studios. But first let's jump to
the news desk Monty Belanos giving us the latest on
what's happening on a Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Rich has advice for Aaron Rodgers. I have advice for thieves.
So apparently seven men have been charged by federal prosecutors
for their roles in the string of burglaries that have
happened to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Joe Burrow, and k
k SHB, which is a news station in Kansas City,
has a picture of four of the guys with some
(24:16):
of the items that they posted. Guys, No, if.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
You're gonna steal, don't.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Post a picture.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Rule number one.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
So that's my advice for thieves out there. Yes, NBA
one game tonight. It is the postpone game that was
between the Lakers and the Hornets that took place during
the wildfires here in La JJ. Redick says that he
doesn't expect expect Luka Dancic to have minutes restriction moving forward.
Lebron Jay's still listen as questionable with that ankle injury,
(24:45):
and Mark Williams apparently has rejoined the Hornet He is
probable to play. Lastly here, Venus Williams, who is forty
four years old, has been awarded a wildcard to play
at Indian Wells next month. She hasn't played in a
tour event since the Miami which was in March of
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Back to you guys, thank you very much, manzi Was
it posted on social media? Did they just get them
from their phones? Because there is another like it's dumb
to take a picture, period, But if you were to
post it somewhere, I mean that's I mean, that's cream
of the crop dumb.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I mean it's a good question.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Let me see if it's if they post it, I
don't think it says that, but the picture is there.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, why do you have a picture?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But it's four.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Guys and they're like peace signs with all these watches.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I just saw a story that Tom Brady gave his
son a three million dollar watch. Did you see this?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
No, I give my son the same toys. Sometimes he
doesn't know, he has no idea. I just thinks he
gets a new dinosaur and it's the same one that's
been there. It's magnificent. It just safes clutter in the house.
Don't worry, he's already got like a hundred of them.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Just rewrap it.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Trying to rewrap Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You have some advice for the veteran quarterback as he
looks for a possible new home in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, So some of the teams that have been linked
to Aaron Rodgers either you know, presumably kicking the tires
on him or potentially where he and that franchise would
be a match, like the Pittsburgh Steelers or the Las
Vegas Raiders, et cetera, et cetera. You start going through
the list and you start thinking about, man, I get it.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
He has not played well in New York.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He really wasn't particularly playing well when he made his
exit from Green Bay. But I kind of feel like
going to the Steelers, especially in the shape they're currently
in and the way they use quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Is that really where Aaron Rodgers wants to.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Go, you know, to go to the Las Vegas Raiders,
who you know, are pretty much outside of their tight
end position and slot receiver position offensively kind of bereft
of all talent from a skilled position standpoint, not really
strong at offensive line either.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Is that really where you want to play if you're
Aaron Rodger?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah, doesn't seem too tasty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It just sort of feels to me like Aaron he
should maybe put his feet up on the ottoman.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Ah, I agree with that. Yes, turn the television on.
Quit well, no, wit hang on he.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Really I'm saying, play the long game.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So the short game is, Okay, I'm gonna sign with
one of these teams who's interested in me, and blah
blah blah, this and that, and maybe I can have
some personnel decision making. I'm saying. I'm saying, don't answer
the phone during the offseason. I'm saying, don't sign with
anybody during the offseason. Pull Joe Flacco here now, Joe Flacco,
it was not by his own decision making that he
(27:42):
wasn't on a roster in twenty twenty three until the
Browns called him off of his lazy boy recliner, and
then he went out onto the field in Cleveland and
lit it up for about yeah, half a season or
a little bit less than half a season, and even
won them a game in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
But I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Saying, and you make that choice yourself. Tell everybody like, hey,
you know, and don't get me wrong. Field the calls,
field the calls. Don't put everybody on warning that you're
not even interested or entertaining the idea of signing. But
don't sign. Wait to be somebody's hero. A good team
somewhere out there is gonna lose their starting quarterback this year.
(28:21):
It's gonna either be early, around the midpoint, or late
in the season. It happens every single year. And if
there is an an Aaron Rodgers, somebody who's that veteran
and that talented, who's kept in shape and interested in
making a return available somewhere at home, you're telling me
that a team wouldn't jump at the opportunity to sign him.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
They would and it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Would completely rekickstart his career, just like it did for
Joe Flacco. He was the toasted to the town in
the NFL down the stretch of the twenty twenty three
regular season.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's an I thought Russell Wilson should have done that,
and then in a way it happened with this and
in a way it actually transpired like that. But in
the end we found out that Russell Wilson wasn't good enough,
wasn't able to save the day like Joe Flacco was,
And now we're going to have a tough time finding
Russell Wilson a job. That's the part that I questioned
(29:14):
about Aaron Rodgers. And that's why you and I split
on the freeway. I took the exit and you kept
going to play again. Yeah, I don't know if he
can save another team. I know that there was there
were some flashes this past year, but there were also
flashes of injury. I don't think it was just the
Achilles issue. I just think it's him being forty one
(29:35):
years old trying to come back from the Achilles injur
you know issue. I maybe in spots to your point
of playing three, four or five games at the end
of the season, maybe trying to lead them in I
just have serious questions on whether he can even do
it at this level anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think a lot of people share those concerns, and
I think a lot of people in front offices of
the teams that even the teams that may be more
desperate for a help at quarterback feel that way. So
if you sort of take your game piece off the board,
and you do it quietly, like you know, and you
do it in a little bit more of a subversive way,
(30:12):
You're not you're not making a statement, you're not putting
out a press release. But when teams call you say, hey,
we don't agree to those.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Terms, well what's it gonna take?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And you give them a contract that you know they're
not gonna sign with you, and they move on. And
you do that maybe once or twice, or who knows,
maybe three times this offseason. You get yourself to one
hundred percent physically, you get yourself to one hundred percent mentally.
And then if you do come back in the situation
I just painted where a team loses a starting quarterback
(30:44):
who has a real chance to take a run this
season and you stink, well, at least you have the
excuse on your side that, hey, you know they sign
them off the couch.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know, he's he's forty.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Something, he's got the Achilles he's still recovering from. Yeah,
I have a bunch of excuses going your way. If
you sign with a team now, like the Raiders the Steelers,
all of a sudden, there's expectations. All of a sudden,
you're you're being asked questions, and in Aaron Rodgers' case,
he can't help himself except to answer questions honestly, and
(31:16):
so the news cycle catches on and he's he's making
headlines every two weeks, and it's not good for anybody involved.
But if all of a sudden, he puts on a
cape and he hops off of his sofa and he
throws a couple of touchdown passes in the first game
back with you know, you name it whoever, all of
(31:37):
a sudden, he kind of he goes from you know this,
this guy who was supposed to save the New York
Jets franchise and failed to this this sort of I
don't know, reignited superhero that may have one last good
run in him.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
There are there are You are speaking some truths because
Joe Flacco, aside from is Joe Flacco elite and him
being a Super Bowl champion. The other thing we other
talked about him previously was Joe Flacco bet out himself
and it paid off. That's right, And now there's a
whole new narrative. In fact, it's so new that people
(32:14):
don't even realize that Joe Flacco actually played bad games
in his comeback. He was picked off in that playoff
game against the Texans. There were two picks sixes.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
He was benched this past year as well, But we
don't even we don't even remember that stuff. We still
just think of remember when he lit it up for
the Browns in that end of the regular season and
throwing for three hundred yards. So yeah, that couldn't change
the narrative. I think he's done. But to your point,
if somebody wanted to try to bring him in, that
(32:45):
would be the way to do it.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And also, Dan, and you know this as well as
I do.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What you're talking about the difference between Joe Flacco when
he was on the tail end of his career in
Baltimore where Lamar replaced.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Him was the expectations.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The expectations for him at that time with a good
defense and quality offensive players, around that Baltimore offense was
for him to be serviceable enough for the Baltimore Ravens
to win, and they weren't, and Lamar Jackson came in
with lower expectations and probably overplayed those low expectations. With
Aaron Rodgers in New York, there were immense expectations. He
(33:24):
met none of them. You know, I'll give you another example,
and it's a more recent example. Kansas City Chiefs. So
the expectation is for the Kansas City Chiefs to be
a world beating team because they've won consecutive Super Bowls.
They go out there and they sort of sleepwalk through
the regular season, winning close games and playing poor football
for a good majority of the season, and then they
(33:45):
had absolutely railroaded in the Super Bowl that season, even
though they finished as runner ups to the champions in
the NFL. After winning back to back Super Bowls, felt
like the Chiefs did not meet their expectation. I mean,
imagine that you made it to the Super Bowl, you
hung in there for about a quarter a quarter and
(34:06):
a half, and then the wheels completely fell off, and
that's not good enough anymore, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
the expectations are just too high for where he's at
in his career.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I don't know what he wants. I don't think it's
I don't think it's another super Bowl. You mentioned the
Raiders earlier as a team, and I thought if there
was a team that would want to sign him, because
I'm not sure how many teams would want to sign
him in this offseason, I thought the Raiders could be
a possibility. But I don't hate your plan. I think
he should just go off for good, right off into
(34:38):
the sunset, and that be it. But if there was
a way for him to get back in the game,
I don't think rich Orenberger is that far off. It
is Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio Lot
from the tirec dot com Studios. Travis Matthew is apparel
designed for confidence and comfort no matter where the day
takes you, from performance driven styles to every day essentials
for men and women. Travis Matthew, as you covered, visit
Travismathew dot com and received twenty percent off your first
(35:00):
order when you sign up for email get rich on
x at Ornberger. You can find me at Dan Bayer
on Fox And sometimes you just gotta get away. That's
the case with one team. We'll tell you who next.
On Fox Sports Radio. It's Cavino and Rich on Fox
Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. He is Rich Ornberger in
for the guys today. Shortly after the show, our podcast
(35:23):
will be going up. If you missed any of today's show,
just be sure to check out the podcast. Search Covino
and Rich wherever you get your podcast, and be sure
to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, just
search Cavino and Rich wherever you get your podcast, and
you'll see today's show posted right after we get off
the air. Find Rich on ex at Ornberger. You can
find me at Dan Byer on Fox. I'm in such
(35:44):
college basketball mode, Rich. Yesterday is the one month mark
of the start of the NCAA Tournament. Selection Sunday comes
up March sixteenth. We talked about Illinois Wisconsin's non handshake
last night. Yep, there was another story going on in
college basketball last night as Kansas got absolutely drubbed by
BYU and Provo. Bill self's worst loss tied for the
(36:07):
worst loss in his history as the Jayhawks head coach,
losing ninety one to fifty seven. He said this after
the loss to the Cougars last night.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
The thing about we need to regroup, you know, get
away from each other for a day and go home
and hopefully be able to you know, a lot of
times with teams, there needs to be something happened to
pull everybody together, that is us against the outside. And
you know, we're going to have an opportunity to do
that for sure. So a lot of teams go through it.
(36:38):
We used to haven't been through it too much at
all and in a long time, so but certainly we're going.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
To go through it this time.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That no truer word spoken by Bill self that sometimes
you just need to get away from each other. Yeah,
in every single situation, I was going at the super
Bowl for a week. I think my wife probably had
the best week she had in months because I was
out of the house for a week. And it maybe
at work, it may be with your team, it may
be what it may be at home, whatever the case
may be. It's not like that she was looking forward
(37:07):
to me being gone. But guess what, she had an
opportunity to maybe do some stuff. Yeah, she had to
take care of our little guy by herself. But hey,
those are the things that end up happening. And I
think it was probably a breath of fresh air for
and I think in a situation like this, it happens
for Kansas.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Space is good for everyone at some point.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I completely agree. And really what I like in it
too is hitting the reset button. And after the worst
loss in program history to a ranked for a ranked
team to an unranked team, you really got to hit
that reset button. I want you to imagine like you
have a cell phone that's not really working out for you,
(37:50):
and you're panicked because whatever, maybe you're traveling the next
day or whatever it is. You call up the phone
company from your spouse's phone, say hey, have you tried
resetting the phone? And then you turn it off, turn
it back on. All of a sudden, wondrously everything's working.
Maybe you I don't know, a refreshed operating system or something,
and it needed to get the bug fixes worked out.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Just from a restart. That's all it takes. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And if you think about a basketball team, I basketball team.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Is a complex system. Like a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
There's a lot of moving parts, a lot of things
have to go right, you know, sometimes just taking a breath,
getting away from each other for a day, you know,
forgetting for a second, about the awful loss you just suffered. Together,
a little space and time can do a lot of
healing and can help things.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I envy people that can turn it off because I can't.
And it's not even just of being around people, as
they joked earlier, it's just even even the work thing.
Like you, Rich, you're talking on the air seven days
a week. Yeah, I'm six or seven days a week
the same thing. And if you were to leave, you know,
there's gonna be a point where you're gonna be back
(39:02):
on the year talking and you don't want to miss
what just happened. And so to me, it's so difficult
to turn it off. Hopefully, if for Kansas is sake,
they can just hit that reset button and be away
and then figure out a way to galvanize and get
together and make a stretch run. But it is difficult
to do even at the highest levels of men's college basketball.
(39:23):
He's Rich Hornberger, I'm Dan Byer. This is Cavino and
Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Could we be looking
at a whole new format for the college football playoff?
We'll tell you what it is next
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Be sure to catch us live every weekday from five
to seven Eastern to the four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio.
Find your local station for Commedo on Rich at Foxsports
Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on
the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It is now the excuse that tops all excuses, and
you can use it pretty much anywhere you want. Welcome
in as we are broadcasting live from the tierraq dot
com studios tierrec dot com. We'll help you get there
on unmached selection as free shipping, free road as a protection,
and over ten thousands are recommended in solos tierraq dot com.
The way tire buying should be Rich Orberger. How are
(00:43):
you today, excellent Dan Byer, how are you? I am
doing I am doing swimmingly and I am doing even
better because I see Iowa Sam there, I see Bree
as our executive producer Mantzi Blano sat the news desk.
We're ready to rock. We've got a battle. All the
sex is coming up later on in the show a
(01:03):
tag team events. Mancey is not feeling it right now.
There is some drama going on between bri and Mancy.
They are FSR besties, but Brianna muro Are, executive producer,
failed to include Mancy on our pre show email last Rich,
(01:23):
did you notice this?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
You know what I did and a layering mistake And
I yeah, I couldn't believe it when I saw it,
and uh, and I.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Figured it was intentional. Thank you. But you know what,
I didn't want to say anything because I didn't want
to spark that flame.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
No, no, we put the flame to the masses.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now, wow, everybody knows.
Speaker 5 (01:44):
Everybody knows, and it was not intentional.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
You guys should know.
Speaker 6 (01:47):
That's worse.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
That's worse.
Speaker 5 (01:49):
I wasn't even on her mind.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
This is that really sounds like something Bree would say.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Bree, Bree, this is first of all, in that situation,
say less, don't say anything. But if you are going
to say something, you are going to say something, just
say I'm sick. Yeah, just say I'm sick. That seems
to be rich. That seems to be the ultimate excuse
ever since COVID. Now is I'm sick?
Speaker 2 (02:17):
It is almost bulletproof, it really is, it really is.
It's amazing, like you know, I mean, it's like you know,
whatever it is. I mean, even birds are doing that now.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
They're like, oh my gosh, we don't feel like laying eggs.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
It's like, well, we got the flu.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah, it's everywhere, yeah, dude. And it was on
display in Madison, Wisconsin last night after the Badger's tomped
the Illinois fighting a line. I In a Big Ten showdown,
teams do what they normally do at the end of
the game. They line up, they get near the scorers table,
and then they start to shake hands and say good game,
(02:53):
good game. But this was different. After the ninety five
seventy four victory, there was a stop by the Illinois bench.
And now we have seen drama happen at mid court
of handshake lines before at the Coal Center when Juwan
Howard ended up slapping a Wisconsin assistant Joe Kravinhoff a
(03:14):
couple of seasons ago, after some late game dramatics.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
This was nothing of the sort.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
In fact, let's let Illinois head coach Brad Underwood explain
why the teams did not shake hands after last night's
Big Ten showdown.
Speaker 7 (03:29):
At the end of the day, guys, we don't have
very many healthy bodies. Jake Davis got sick right after
pregame said he wanted to try to start, but he
didn't even join us at halftime. He was in the restroom.
That's why we didn't shake hands with them after the game.
They don't need this. But thirty eight years, I've never
seen anything like what's gone through our team.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
So, like the Birds, rich Ornberger, Illinois is like, listen,
we are sick, we are not feeling well. We do
not want to give it to Wisconsin. Is that a
valid argument to not shake a team's hand after the game.
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Yeah, well, I guess nowadays it is.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
Here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I mean they speaking of the Birds, they laid an
egg too after that lost to Wisconsin. He sounds exasperated.
Brad Underwood sounds frustrated.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I get it.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Sometimes you go through a rash of injuries, and sometimes
a certain injury is contagious. Dan, Like I remember there
were certain years where everybody was spraining ankles or it
felt like everybody was tearing acls, you know, I mean
everybody's getting a concussion. Like there's kind of like an
injury doujour, you know, depending on the team, depending on
(04:42):
the season in this case, or Illinois hoops its illness,
and it's been a couple of different varieties, you know,
flu bug, stomach bug, just wearing this team down. And
it doesn't get easier for them because they're scheduled against
Duke in New York at Medicine Square Garden coming up
this weekend, and so we'll see how they're feeling for
that one. But goodness gracious, here's what I will say.
(05:06):
In today's day and age. It is an excuse. But
this is only very recent. You know, we're not too
far departed from a time where illness wasn't really an excuse.
You kind of had to be crawling from your bed
to the to the floor to get excused from a
(05:27):
practice or a game where But we're living in a
new normal, Dan, and you're right, it really did. It
was triggered from the pandemic, Sam Iowa.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sam, you have the same thoughts as me when you
see them, say hold up, no shaking in the hands,
let's walk back to the locker room and just give
thumbs up.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
And your thought was all well and good, very thoughtful
on Brad Underwood's part. But you've been handling the same basketball,
or at least during you're playing with the game you're
you're you guys are breathing on you under the brim,
so there's close contact for two hours. What does it
matter if you up or handshaker, slap hands on the
way out. You've already got the germs.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
I've been so spottying up on the block with this
dude for the last two hours, putting my hands all
over his back, hacking. I'm breathing the whole nine yards. Yet,
let's not do the handshake line, because that would be
that'd be reckless, dangerous and downright silly.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, yeah, you know what, I never thought of it.
You guys bring up a different aspect of this. You know,
I didn't look in terms of the handshake line.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
I do like it.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
It wouldn't bother me if it was a part of
the game or wasn't you know, it wouldn't really I
wouldn't miss it either way. I kind of feel similar
to the national anthem. I think it's a nice moment.
I don't necessarily think it's requisite or necessary. I just
sort of feel like everybody's there for the sport of it, right,
everybody's there to see Illinois Wisconsin or Illinois Duke. Nobody
(06:57):
really cares if they shake hands, nobody. I don't think
anybody is really all that passionate about the national anthem
being played before games. I mean certain people certainly aren't.
Obviously during the kneeling situation with Colin Kaepernick, I think
a lot of people realize that maybe they appreciate it
more than they even thought. But I think we do
(07:19):
certain things that are customary before or after games that
are relatively superfluous. So whether they shook hands or not,
I agree it doesn't really matter for a number of reasons,
but especially germ transmission, because I think anything that was
going to be transmitted happened on the court.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
There's no doubt in just walking by, saying good game,
shaking hands quick, just put a tub with sanitizer at
the end. Yeah, that's all that you'd have to do.
I even saw Brad Underwood speaking to a couple of
the Wisconsin players afterwards, telling him some of the illnesses
that his team has gone through and explaining what happened,
(08:00):
and they all understood everything. Everything was good. But you
know what I did like about it. I just loved
the thumbs up. We're walking away and the NBA now
has turned into a love fest. Where everybody hugs each
other after.
Speaker 4 (08:14):
The game Jersey.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, and we complain about like while the All Star
Game isn't competitive and maybe it's because everybody's friends. Now,
that's been an argument that has been made. There's different
ways to do it. I don't think anybody listening to
this show would argue that the handshake at the end
of the Stanley Cup playoffs is amazing of each series
when it's when it's done. But you know what they
don't do. They don't do it every game and so
(08:39):
so the the point is, do we need to have
a handshake at the end of every single game in
college basketball? Maybe at the maybe NCAA tournament only I'm
not sure, but last night it just not happening made
me think like, all right, is this is this necessary?
Do we actually have to do it? I don't mind
(09:00):
the NFL's way. It's more of maybe more of what
the what the NBA does now. But because there's more guys,
you can avoid people like the Miko Ryan's avoided Aaron Rodgers.
I'm not sure what the perfect scenario is, but if
we were to rank them, I know hockey is number one.
I mean, baseball doesn't bring out the losing team baseball,
(09:23):
just like going the dugout, the winning team actually gets
all together and celebrates themselves. I'm not sure what is
exactly right, but I just know that the best one
is hockey at the end of their playoff series.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
I do agree with that.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think it's kind of neat that it's like, hey,
this is the sendoff and it's like, hey, go win
the rest of them now kind of thing after you
play a series against the team. I don't Again, I
don't really spend a lot of time thinking about it
until it becomes a story. Like you brought up the
fact that there was a slap across the face from
(09:53):
Juwan Howard at one point, Like, yeah, then I'm gonna
think about the handshake line and whether or not it's necessary,
you know, in this case, you know, coach Underwood decides
to cancel it because of illness transmission.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Okay, yeah, I'll think about it.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But outside of that, it is such an afterthought for
me from a fan standpoint, now, from an athlete standpoint,
when I was playing collegiately, when I was playing in
the NFL, was it kind of nice that it was
customary for players to walk out to midfield or you know, somewhere,
you know, meeting in the middle between the two sidelines
(10:28):
and say hello to some of maybe some of the
familiar faces on that sideline, you know, either buddies who
used to play with or you know, played with in college,
you know, or played against. Yeah, I kind of think
it's kind of nice. But from this the fan standpoint,
I don't think it does anything for anybody. So if
it just win away, if it's a problem enough for anybody,
(10:50):
I don't really think anybody would care all that much.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
I really don't.
Speaker 3 (10:54):
If in your hierarchy, in your rankings, are you looking
for other Penn State or on the other sideline, are
you looking at the guy that you battled for sixty
minutes on the field. Where are you Who are you
going to first in the handshake line at the end
of your NFL game?
Speaker 4 (11:10):
Oh, that's a great question.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
It's typically someone like a college teammate or a guy
who I used to play with as a teammate during
my pro career, you know, seeking them out, especially if
it's somebody you've kept in touch with, you know, because
usually what's odd about a football season is you usually
at some point leading up to the game, you go
(11:33):
radio dark, and it's never usually discussed. And this might
be interesting to certain people, but when you have a
buddy on an opposing team, it's such a game of chess,
and it's such a war game. You would never want
anybody even to assume that you're passing along trade secrets
or you're doing anything other than prepare for your side
(11:56):
of the battle. So I mean, at a certain point,
the phone goes dead, like you're not communicating with that
person anymore until after the football game. It is kind
of a strange thing, and it's never discussed. It's never like, oh,
your buddy of ten years, who you've been either playing
with or against all that time, you know who, maybe
you've even celebrated holidays together. You know, you say, hey,
(12:18):
you know, Monday of game week, we're not texting each other,
like no, But it happens naturally, and then after the
game you get to say hello again. It's like, all right,
we were enemies for sixty minutes. What's going on? How's
everybody at home?
Speaker 4 (12:30):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (12:30):
Yeah, it fits, but it's understood between you two. Yeah,
exactly right, Like there's there's nothing wrong with that. I've
always felt and this is perfect talking to a former
New England Patriot. I've joked on this network half joking,
half serious. That's someone like Tom Brady. Yeah, okay, Tom
Brady after the game. Everybody wants to meet Tom, right
of course. So if you're a player that went to
(12:55):
school with Tom Brady, totally cool. If you're a backup
special teamer you can't shake hand, what do you think
about that?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
That is probably true.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
And there aren't guys who are trying to get in
on it, right, I think there needs to be a
velvet rope with the NFL's top stars on who can
shake their hands.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Let's put it this way.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If I was playing in a game, you know, and
I was walking past you know, a Peinton Manning or
I don't know an Aaron Rodgers or you know, I
guess when when he was an opponent and not a
teammate of Philip Rivers or Drew Brees, whatever it may be.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Yeah, I might.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
I might slap a high five, or you know, pat
a guy on the butt and be like, hey, hey,
great game, you know whatever it is just in passing.
But I would never make a point to introduce myself
and certainly not.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
Torn Berger New England Patriots.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Yeah, yeah, damn, glad to meet you. I'm rushing this
frat next year. I mean like it's it's uh, I
don't know, it's got.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I always felt weirder when I was a backup, Like
if I had close to nothing to do with the game,
I absolutely would feel too sheepish or embarrassed to run
up to somebody and be like, hey, now's the time
where you.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Know where Aaron Rodgers or.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Peyton Manning needs to know who I am when I'm
the you know, the second string swing tackle on the Patriots, Right,
that makes sense.
Speaker 5 (14:19):
I get it.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
And I've said, like, there's only so many hands Tom
Brady or Patrick Mahomes can shake, so you can't waste
them on people there's otherwise gonna be out.
Speaker 5 (14:29):
There the whole post game. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
I never really thought about that, but yeah, at some
point you do run out of handshakes.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
You just don't know when.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Next thing you know, it's twenty minutes after the game
and you're still out there trying to talk to the
people like it should be opposing starting quarterback. I actually
think all quarterback room is allowed to talk to other
opponents quarterback, even if it's Mahomes or Brady or yeah, yeah,
Joe Burrow whatever college good starting defense can Yeah, any
offensive star, Yeah can talk to the quarterback of the
(14:59):
other team. But side of that, and maybe a coach,
a coach, yeah in that way. Yeah, I'll tell you
what strength coach that has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Uh huh, can't do it. Yeah, quality control guide.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Even like a running backs coach or a tight ends coach,
you know what I mean, Like, look, we know what
the deal is. Chances are you're holding up the scout card,
you know, the scout team cards a practice like like layoff,
you know, I mean, like you said, they're running out
of and it is a little bit of a hierarchy,
like you you put it, and it's it's a funny.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
It's a funny thing, but everybody respects it.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
And then also when the qbs go into their little
like half hearted jog, they put their head down and
they start jogging for Yeah, that's definitely not the time
to come up. And yeah, I mean it's over. It
is over.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
After thinking about this, and I don't know if other
people agree, but there is something about what Major League
Baseball does because It's like the to the victor goes
the spoil. There is no shaking of the other hands
of the other team. If you win and you're at home,
(16:07):
you stay on the field and celebrate. You know, if
it's top of the ninth, he close it out. Guess
what closer gets to pat the catcher on the you know,
the backside. They all get in the line, everybody celebrates.
Losing team immediately just packs up the crap and goes
in the dugout. If you have a walk off, if
you win it, guess what home team's celebrating at home plate. Well,
(16:28):
the other team is quickly ushered off the field and
shoved into their locker room. Like I think that is
that is the way that it should go. If you
were to watch a handshake in a college basketball game,
you wouldn't know who won or lost, but sure you
know who won or lost in a major league baseball game.
And I'm almost thinking, like that's the way to go.
Winning team gets to stay on the court or field
(16:49):
or however it is, celebrate. Other team just needs to
be needs to be ushered off. I don't know about
flag planting, hits a little too close to home, maybe
not done with that, but maybe Major League Baseball has
it right and just celebrating with your own people, I
think maybe you're right.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
I mean, also, it'll avoid some of the I don't
want to say catastrophes, but some of the you know,
unsavory moments that we've seen. But also, you know, some
of that breeds contempt obviously, but new rivalries sometimes that
creates more interest in the sports. So there is something
(17:24):
to be said about all that. This is, after all,
a business of entertainment. You know, you're not just playing sports,
you're also entertaining people.
Speaker 4 (17:33):
And when you have.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
More I don't know, rivalry or storyline to grasp onto,
especially when we're talking about a divisional rival in football
or divisional rival in baseball or basketball. Divisions aren't as important,
but conference rival, you know, something like that. Maybe maybe
it's more important to see a little you know, post game.
I don't want to say shoving or shouting, but you know,
(17:57):
if there's you know, a mean glare pastor yeah, I
don't know, I mean stuff like that, it goes viral
and people get more interested as a result.
Speaker 3 (18:06):
As we kind of and I'm not mocking Illinois or
what happened last night. I think the germ thing is funny,
totally get it. I think what Day in Wisconsin did
was good. There was no bad sportsmanship at all when
I watch those handshake lines. First of all, I love
it when Tom is a wins at Michigan State because
it looks like he is so apologetic to the other coach.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Yeah, like I don't.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Know how we did it, man, I'm sorry, like for
somehow we pull this out.
Speaker 5 (18:35):
The guys.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Now, the all time winning is Big ten coach, you
know again of all time, recently passing Bob Knight, But
he is so like apologetic, like darning and I'm sorry
we won this game.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
So like that portion is neat.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
The other thing that I will say that I do
watch in the handshake line, so maybe I shouldn't be
so anti against it is when a kid goes off
for like thirty eight points in a loss and how
the other team all stop to like congratulate him, like
there's a backup, Like they just fly by everybody else
because who cares. But the one kid who had thirty
eight points and still lost. The winning team is like,
(19:11):
hey man, great game, You're on fire because they can
say that they won the game. They can give the
kid his props, but I always will look at that,
all right, what are they gonna do to the poor
kid who lost the game but had to score fifty
percent of his team's points just to keep them in there.
I do appreciate that portion of the handshake line as well.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Yeah, yeah, it's It's not a completely useless or vestigial
part of the game. I do think though, it is
interesting that it highlights something that is a part of
our life. And I'm not sure if we'll ever one
hundred percent get back to what it was prior to
the twenty twenty basketball season, which is that illness is
(19:51):
really really considered when you know you're setting your starting
roster and rotation, or you know you're you're thinking about,
you know, the gamesmanship of it all.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Like it just was such an.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
Afterthought unless the player again was knocking on death's door,
illness was rarely talked about. Meanwhile, you know, on the
other side of the pandemic, here we are five years out.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
It's still very much a part of the zeitgeist.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It's very much a part of the conversation, and it
is completely acceptable for a team to use, you know,
a stomach bug as an excuse not to line up
and do what's customary. It's it's an interesting world we
live in, you know, looking back on what we all
went through collectively, but through the sports lens also.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I do quickly want to get your thoughts on this
because I do want to bring in Iowa Sam, because
we had this discussion recently. Iowa Sam believes Rich and
Sam please confirm it. I don't want to put any
words in your mouth, but if you say you're sick
in that you have diarrhea, like, because you're admitting to
something that is embarrassing, you must have that ailment, do you?
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Sam?
Speaker 5 (20:59):
Is that what's your Originally?
Speaker 1 (21:01):
Yeah, I had that take originally, but then you talked
me through why it is such a great excuse when
you go to the most extreme ailment you could be facing.
It's very clever to to You're gonna you're gonna lie
and you're gonna take You're gonna take your dignity down
with the lie, and you're gonna say, oh my god,
I I made a mess in my pants. I can't
(21:23):
make it to work today. So you're you're gonna swallow
your dignity but you're gonna get the day off.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
Yeah no, that's so Dan.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
You actually we kind of evolved this take.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Okay, so you're off of that now. I'm off of
it because I agree with you.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
What you you're like, the end all be all excuse
is the most extreme thing you can.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Come up with.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Yeah, I I I do not disagree with this. Like, Okay,
if I'm an employer, all right, forget coach, forget what
if I'm an employer and one of my employees, you know,
we're counting on them to be there it's a meeting,
or you know, our lunch rush is about to start
at the restaurant, whatever it may be. And you know
this is a server who you know has experienced. We
(22:01):
got a bunch of younger all of a sudden they
called me up and they go, hey, boss, listen, was
on my way to work.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And let's just put it this way. I'm gonna have
to have the front seat reoppulstered.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I mean, you know the fact that you know there's
there's there's courage in that conversation, there's conviction there.
Speaker 4 (22:18):
So I'm gonna be like, yeah, you know what, you've
earned yourself a day off we're all set, we'll figure.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It out with it is the go to, Like if
you want to like the worse it is, that's the
more that you want the day off.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Although now with COVID completely different deal. Now people are like, yeah,
go ahead, stay home. Yeah, you don't have to shake hands,
don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 4 (22:36):
It used to be how bad do you want it?
And now it's just an automatic.
Speaker 3 (22:39):
I think brand Underwood in the like elongated clip, was
I guess so and so was in the bathroom? Like
you didn't give the details of what was going on,
but again, like you know, just selling saying what's happening.
But when you hear stuff like that, sometimes it's people
trying to get out of stuff. All right, He's Rich Ornberger.
I'm Dan Byer in for Comuno and Rich. Here on
Fox Sports Radios. We are live from the Tirec dot
Com studios. Coming up next, Aaron Rodgers is looking for
(23:02):
a new team. But should he be someone here doesn't
think so that Next on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (23:10):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports radio
dot Com.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Go ton, Go Meet hooks Up.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
For me.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Germ Talk here on Fox Sports Radio. It's Givino and Rich.
She's Rich Ornberger. I'm Dan Byer in for Steven Rich
or in for the Dan Patrick Show earlier today. So
glad that you're hanging out with us on this Wednesday.
Rich has some advice for Aaron Rodgers, who may be
looking for a new team in twenty twenty five. We'll
hear that in a second as we are live from
(23:48):
the tyrerec dot Com studios. But first let's jump to
the news desk Monty Belanos giving us the latest on
what's happening on a Wednesday.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
Rich has advice for Aaron Rodgers. I have advice for thieves.
So apparently seven men have been charged by federal prosecutors
for their roles in the string of burglaries that have
happened to Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, Joe Burrow, and k
k SHB, which is a news station in Kansas City,
has a picture of four of the guys with some
(24:16):
of the items that they posted. Guys, No, if.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
You're gonna steal, don't.
Speaker 6 (24:21):
Post a picture.
Speaker 4 (24:23):
Rule number one.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
So that's my advice for thieves out there. Yes, NBA
one game tonight. It is the postpone game that was
between the Lakers and the Hornets that took place during
the wildfires here in La JJ. Redick says that he
doesn't expect expect Luka Dancic to have minutes restriction moving forward.
Lebron Jay's still listen as questionable with that ankle injury,
(24:45):
and Mark Williams apparently has rejoined the Hornet He is
probable to play. Lastly here, Venus Williams, who is forty
four years old, has been awarded a wildcard to play
at Indian Wells next month. She hasn't played in a
tour event since the Miami which was in March of
twenty twenty four.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Back to you guys, thank you very much, manzi Was
it posted on social media? Did they just get them
from their phones? Because there is another like it's dumb
to take a picture, period, But if you were to
post it somewhere, I mean that's I mean, that's cream
of the crop dumb.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I mean it's a good question.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Let me see if it's if they post it, I
don't think it says that, but the picture is there.
Speaker 5 (25:24):
Yeah, why do you have a picture?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
But it's four.
Speaker 6 (25:26):
Guys and they're like peace signs with all these watches.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Oh.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
I just saw a story that Tom Brady gave his
son a three million dollar watch. Did you see this?
Speaker 3 (25:36):
No, I give my son the same toys. Sometimes he
doesn't know, he has no idea. I just thinks he
gets a new dinosaur and it's the same one that's
been there. It's magnificent. It just safes clutter in the house.
Don't worry, he's already got like a hundred of them.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
Just rewrap it.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
Trying to rewrap Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (25:54):
You have some advice for the veteran quarterback as he
looks for a possible new home in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
Yeah, So some of the teams that have been linked
to Aaron Rodgers either you know, presumably kicking the tires
on him or potentially where he and that franchise would
be a match, like the Pittsburgh Steelers or the Las
Vegas Raiders, et cetera, et cetera. You start going through
the list and you start thinking about, man, I get it.
Speaker 4 (26:23):
He has not played well in New York.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
He really wasn't particularly playing well when he made his
exit from Green Bay. But I kind of feel like
going to the Steelers, especially in the shape they're currently
in and the way they use quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (26:39):
Is that really where Aaron Rodgers wants to.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Go, you know, to go to the Las Vegas Raiders,
who you know, are pretty much outside of their tight
end position and slot receiver position offensively kind of bereft
of all talent from a skilled position standpoint, not really
strong at offensive line either.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Is that really where you want to play if you're
Aaron Rodger?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Yeah, doesn't seem too tasty.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It just sort of feels to me like Aaron he
should maybe put his feet up on the ottoman.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
Ah, I agree with that. Yes, turn the television on.
Quit well, no, wit hang on he.
Speaker 4 (27:18):
Really I'm saying, play the long game.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
So the short game is, Okay, I'm gonna sign with
one of these teams who's interested in me, and blah
blah blah, this and that, and maybe I can have
some personnel decision making. I'm saying. I'm saying, don't answer
the phone during the offseason. I'm saying, don't sign with
anybody during the offseason. Pull Joe Flacco here now, Joe Flacco,
it was not by his own decision making that he
(27:42):
wasn't on a roster in twenty twenty three until the
Browns called him off of his lazy boy recliner, and
then he went out onto the field in Cleveland and
lit it up for about yeah, half a season or
a little bit less than half a season, and even
won them a game in the postseason.
Speaker 4 (27:58):
But I'm I'm.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Saying, and you make that choice yourself. Tell everybody like, hey,
you know, and don't get me wrong. Field the calls,
field the calls. Don't put everybody on warning that you're
not even interested or entertaining the idea of signing. But
don't sign. Wait to be somebody's hero. A good team
somewhere out there is gonna lose their starting quarterback this year.
(28:21):
It's gonna either be early, around the midpoint, or late
in the season. It happens every single year. And if
there is an an Aaron Rodgers, somebody who's that veteran
and that talented, who's kept in shape and interested in
making a return available somewhere at home, you're telling me
that a team wouldn't jump at the opportunity to sign him.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
They would and it.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
Would completely rekickstart his career, just like it did for
Joe Flacco. He was the toasted to the town in
the NFL down the stretch of the twenty twenty three
regular season.
Speaker 3 (28:53):
That's an I thought Russell Wilson should have done that,
and then in a way it happened with this and
in a way it actually transpired like that. But in
the end we found out that Russell Wilson wasn't good enough,
wasn't able to save the day like Joe Flacco was,
And now we're going to have a tough time finding
Russell Wilson a job. That's the part that I questioned
(29:14):
about Aaron Rodgers. And that's why you and I split
on the freeway. I took the exit and you kept
going to play again. Yeah, I don't know if he
can save another team. I know that there was there
were some flashes this past year, but there were also
flashes of injury. I don't think it was just the
Achilles issue. I just think it's him being forty one
(29:35):
years old trying to come back from the Achilles injur
you know issue. I maybe in spots to your point
of playing three, four or five games at the end
of the season, maybe trying to lead them in I
just have serious questions on whether he can even do
it at this level anymore.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
I think a lot of people share those concerns, and
I think a lot of people in front offices of
the teams that even the teams that may be more
desperate for a help at quarterback feel that way. So
if you sort of take your game piece off the board,
and you do it quietly, like you know, and you
do it in a little bit more of a subversive way,
(30:12):
You're not you're not making a statement, you're not putting
out a press release. But when teams call you say, hey,
we don't agree to those.
Speaker 4 (30:21):
Terms, well what's it gonna take?
Speaker 2 (30:23):
And you give them a contract that you know they're
not gonna sign with you, and they move on. And
you do that maybe once or twice, or who knows,
maybe three times this offseason. You get yourself to one
hundred percent physically, you get yourself to one hundred percent mentally.
And then if you do come back in the situation
I just painted where a team loses a starting quarterback
(30:44):
who has a real chance to take a run this
season and you stink, well, at least you have the
excuse on your side that, hey, you know they sign
them off the couch.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
You know, he's he's forty.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Something, he's got the Achilles he's still recovering from. Yeah,
I have a bunch of excuses going your way. If
you sign with a team now, like the Raiders the Steelers,
all of a sudden, there's expectations. All of a sudden,
you're you're being asked questions, and in Aaron Rodgers' case,
he can't help himself except to answer questions honestly, and
(31:16):
so the news cycle catches on and he's he's making
headlines every two weeks, and it's not good for anybody involved.
But if all of a sudden, he puts on a
cape and he hops off of his sofa and he
throws a couple of touchdown passes in the first game
back with you know, you name it whoever, all of
(31:37):
a sudden, he kind of he goes from you know this,
this guy who was supposed to save the New York
Jets franchise and failed to this this sort of I
don't know, reignited superhero that may have one last good
run in him.
Speaker 3 (31:54):
There are there are You are speaking some truths because
Joe Flacco, aside from is Joe Flacco elite and him
being a Super Bowl champion. The other thing we other
talked about him previously was Joe Flacco bet out himself
and it paid off. That's right, And now there's a
whole new narrative. In fact, it's so new that people
(32:14):
don't even realize that Joe Flacco actually played bad games
in his comeback. He was picked off in that playoff
game against the Texans. There were two picks sixes.
Speaker 4 (32:22):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
He was benched this past year as well, But we
don't even we don't even remember that stuff. We still
just think of remember when he lit it up for
the Browns in that end of the regular season and
throwing for three hundred yards. So yeah, that couldn't change
the narrative. I think he's done. But to your point,
if somebody wanted to try to bring him in, that
(32:45):
would be the way to do it.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
And also, Dan, and you know this as well as
I do.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
What you're talking about the difference between Joe Flacco when
he was on the tail end of his career in
Baltimore where Lamar replaced.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Him was the expectations.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
The expectations for him at that time with a good
defense and quality offensive players, around that Baltimore offense was
for him to be serviceable enough for the Baltimore Ravens
to win, and they weren't, and Lamar Jackson came in
with lower expectations and probably overplayed those low expectations. With
Aaron Rodgers in New York, there were immense expectations. He
(33:24):
met none of them. You know, I'll give you another example,
and it's a more recent example. Kansas City Chiefs. So
the expectation is for the Kansas City Chiefs to be
a world beating team because they've won consecutive Super Bowls.
They go out there and they sort of sleepwalk through
the regular season, winning close games and playing poor football
for a good majority of the season, and then they
(33:45):
had absolutely railroaded in the Super Bowl that season, even
though they finished as runner ups to the champions in
the NFL. After winning back to back Super Bowls, felt
like the Chiefs did not meet their expectation. I mean,
imagine that you made it to the Super Bowl, you
hung in there for about a quarter a quarter and
(34:06):
a half, and then the wheels completely fell off, and
that's not good enough anymore, Yeah, Aaron Rodgers, I mean,
the expectations are just too high for where he's at
in his career.
Speaker 3 (34:16):
I don't know what he wants. I don't think it's
I don't think it's another super Bowl. You mentioned the
Raiders earlier as a team, and I thought if there
was a team that would want to sign him, because
I'm not sure how many teams would want to sign
him in this offseason, I thought the Raiders could be
a possibility. But I don't hate your plan. I think
he should just go off for good, right off into
(34:38):
the sunset, and that be it. But if there was
a way for him to get back in the game,
I don't think rich Orenberger is that far off. It
is Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio Lot
from the tirec dot com Studios. Travis Matthew is apparel
designed for confidence and comfort no matter where the day
takes you, from performance driven styles to every day essentials
for men and women. Travis Matthew, as you covered, visit
Travismathew dot com and received twenty percent off your first
(35:00):
order when you sign up for email get rich on
x at Ornberger. You can find me at Dan Bayer
on Fox And sometimes you just gotta get away. That's
the case with one team. We'll tell you who next.
On Fox Sports Radio. It's Cavino and Rich on Fox
Sports Radio. I'm Dan Bayer. He is Rich Ornberger in
for the guys today. Shortly after the show, our podcast
(35:23):
will be going up. If you missed any of today's show,
just be sure to check out the podcast. Search Covino
and Rich wherever you get your podcast, and be sure
to also follow, rate and review the podcast. Again, just
search Cavino and Rich wherever you get your podcast, and
you'll see today's show posted right after we get off
the air. Find Rich on ex at Ornberger. You can
find me at Dan Byer on Fox. I'm in such
(35:44):
college basketball mode, Rich. Yesterday is the one month mark
of the start of the NCAA Tournament. Selection Sunday comes
up March sixteenth. We talked about Illinois Wisconsin's non handshake
last night. Yep, there was another story going on in
college basketball last night as Kansas got absolutely drubbed by
BYU and Provo. Bill self's worst loss tied for the
(36:07):
worst loss in his history as the Jayhawks head coach,
losing ninety one to fifty seven. He said this after
the loss to the Cougars last night.
Speaker 9 (36:16):
The thing about we need to regroup, you know, get
away from each other for a day and go home
and hopefully be able to you know, a lot of
times with teams, there needs to be something happened to
pull everybody together, that is us against the outside. And
you know, we're going to have an opportunity to do
that for sure. So a lot of teams go through it.
(36:38):
We used to haven't been through it too much at
all and in a long time, so but certainly we're going.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
To go through it this time.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
That no truer word spoken by Bill self that sometimes
you just need to get away from each other. Yeah,
in every single situation, I was going at the super
Bowl for a week. I think my wife probably had
the best week she had in months because I was
out of the house for a week. And it maybe
at work, it may be with your team, it may
be what it may be at home, whatever the case
may be. It's not like that she was looking forward
(37:07):
to me being gone. But guess what, she had an
opportunity to maybe do some stuff. Yeah, she had to
take care of our little guy by herself. But hey,
those are the things that end up happening. And I
think it was probably a breath of fresh air for
and I think in a situation like this, it happens
for Kansas.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
Space is good for everyone at some point.
Speaker 2 (37:28):
I completely agree. And really what I like in it
too is hitting the reset button. And after the worst
loss in program history to a ranked for a ranked
team to an unranked team, you really got to hit
that reset button. I want you to imagine like you
have a cell phone that's not really working out for you,
(37:50):
and you're panicked because whatever, maybe you're traveling the next
day or whatever it is. You call up the phone
company from your spouse's phone, say hey, have you tried
resetting the phone? And then you turn it off, turn
it back on. All of a sudden, wondrously everything's working.
Maybe you I don't know, a refreshed operating system or something,
and it needed to get the bug fixes worked out.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Just from a restart. That's all it takes. Sometimes.
Speaker 2 (38:17):
And if you think about a basketball team, I basketball team.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Is a complex system. Like a cell phone.
Speaker 2 (38:24):
There's a lot of moving parts, a lot of things
have to go right, you know, sometimes just taking a breath,
getting away from each other for a day, you know,
forgetting for a second, about the awful loss you just suffered. Together,
a little space and time can do a lot of
healing and can help things.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
I envy people that can turn it off because I can't.
And it's not even just of being around people, as
they joked earlier, it's just even even the work thing.
Like you, Rich, you're talking on the air seven days
a week. Yeah, I'm six or seven days a week
the same thing. And if you were to leave, you know,
there's gonna be a point where you're gonna be back
(39:02):
on the year talking and you don't want to miss
what just happened. And so to me, it's so difficult
to turn it off. Hopefully, if for Kansas is sake,
they can just hit that reset button and be away
and then figure out a way to galvanize and get
together and make a stretch run. But it is difficult
to do even at the highest levels of men's college basketball.
(39:23):
He's Rich Hornberger, I'm Dan Byer. This is Cavino and
Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Could we be looking
at a whole new format for the college football playoff?
We'll tell you what it is next
Hosts And Creators
Rich Davis
Steve Covino
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.