February 20, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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this Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for them today as we celebrate
(00:30):
the opening of baseball season. Yeah, Dodgers aren't celebrating. They're
getting drilled. This lineup is terrible. It's over, I mean
really hot takes eighty seven seven ninety nine on Fox
Did did Did Dodgers blow it by spending all this
money in the off season? You?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I like what you're talking about here? Is it money
poorly spent? I will say this, you know how much
I hate the Cubs Southsider for those unaware and new
to the Smith and Harmon combination, White Sox and everything
else in Chicago except the Cups. But I really do
like these light blue caps that they're wearing today. And
(01:07):
Iowa Sam, who's on the technical producer today. He smiled,
and he goes makes me want a klondike bar. Yeah,
that bear sitting there, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't know how much I like him because they
kind of look like either like alternate Detroit Lions hats
or what's the what's the clothing company? Where the the
mascot is like the polar bear but there's like a
sea in it? Like what's that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Like
that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What it looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like it's like what was echo? It kind of looks
like it kind of looks like one of those hats,
like it's kind of a cross between a Detroit Lions
third uniform hat and an Echo hat.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I don't know, Okay, I can get on board that
I did, but it's it's a rhino.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think, Iowa, Sam, It's a rhino, is what it is?
I thought it was a polar bear.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, I can see why people might think that it's
it's a rhino.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Okay, what's what's the polar bear on? There's a polar
man one too, isn't there? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm trying to know your logos.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Of course, I tried to do the search and immediately
it's like, hey, would you like one hundred dollars inflatable
light blue ted costume. Oh okay, it's a weird cause
play thing. I started going down a deep, dark rabbit hole. Man,
I gotta burn my computer now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, you know that part of me wants to see
just what your search history is on the computer. Part
of me doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
No, you do, because it's really an I Galctic. I
bring the I bring worlds together. I mean I am Galactus.
I am the eater of worlds.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't know. Man. Part of me would say, oh, hey, Harmon,
can you explain you know what. I'm not gonna wait,
hip deep into this, explain what. Okay, I am what
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm an open body.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, you walked into the show one day and said
the show owns part of Andre the Giants Jockstrap I did,
and we do. We still do.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm holding on for dear life.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh and you wonder why I kind of I don't
know if I want to see your search history or not.
We own one of Andre the Giants Jockstraps. I bought
the show's name.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We haven't tell me. That's not great. It's not a
lot of shares. It's a small fractional interest in it,
but it's a nice conversation starter. No property, yeah, Andre
the Giants, Jockstrap.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What do you have? Oh, I have a beach house
on the coast. Oh that sounds wonderful. Yeah. No, we
have a house at Casamel Oh yeah, No, I have
a great I own property in the Greater Often area.
What do you have? We own part of Andre the
Giants Jocksas.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'm gonna be honest, most of the folks I hang with. Yeah,
there's a lot of people I know that could go
through the laundry list of properties, like you know, big
shots like you versus the people that I'm hanging out with,
you know, in the corner of a bar that you know,
they're gonna be more in line with the property holdings
of me.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
All right, here's what I want you to do. I
want you to put that in the front of your
Tinder page. I don't have any page, and you tell
we get okay, So I want you to get a
tender page it well, you can still join up. Just
just put and put that very very uh uh prominently
on the front. Mike Harmon, you know, nighttime gabber Fox
(04:16):
sports radio owner of Andre the Giant Jockstrap. Tell me
how that goes, and then say, well, here's me and
mine and now we really have a conversation. Starter again,
Why I don't I don't know what I want to
see about the search history on your computer. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You took us down that deep dark path. That's your fault,
not mine, And I have a new look.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
If we go down the history of the show, plenty
of one offs, and iowa Sam I might have to
pay him as a researcher for show history. I think
there have been a number of things that we could
probably play a couple of segments of what the hell
is Jason into?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, if you want to take stuff completely out of context.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Context of the context some of your things and people
in places and things that you've referenced, don't go coming
at me.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I got receipts too, Pal.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I just gave you the biggest receipt Andre the Giants Jockstrap.
That's a bit I don't know that you ever received.
You don't have. You could go to CVS and get
everybody's receipt for the day. It would look like a
big streamer like in the Olympics. When when the when?
When the dancer's going you see the big streamers going on.
I think I might do that. Like Will Ferrell, you
wouldn't have enough as as Andre, the Giants jockstrap would
(05:31):
not happen.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's good times, man, good times.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Are intrepid producer Justin Frostberg. What do you got? But
what's been washed?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
More recently the Andre jockstrap game used or your football
head coach at Syracuse?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
All right for those unaware, I'm storry.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Fran Brown doesn't shower. The question, Well, we haven't had
a game in a while, so I want to say
it's Fran Brown no, but it is actually shoutowering now
because there's no games and no time to not shower
after wins. Because you're superstitious, I think now in the offseason,
all kay of, but you.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Won the bowl game, so he can't shower all off season.
If that's the superstition, that's the superstition. Think about that steak.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Big story out of the NBA promised just a few
minutes ago, and I think everybody was shocked today when
you you found out somehow that uh Victor Webbin Yama
is out for the season, the Spurs announcing he's going
to miss the rest of the year with deep vein
thrombosis in his right shoulder, basically deep vein thrombos. You
hear about this a lot. It's a blood clot. It
was discovered shortly after the All Star Game. His condition
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is treated with blood thinning medication, which if you know
you ever on blood thinning medication participating in contact sports,
you really can't do it right, you know, there's there's
too much susceptibility for injury. So he is So he
is out. And the big shocker even further from this
is that they're hopeful he's able to be back for
(07:00):
the beginning of next season, like that's the thing. And
and to think this is this is much more than
just Wemby's out for the year with an This isn't
an injury. This is a medical condition. And anybody that's
ever flown, you know, you get certain, you get a
certain age, and suddenly you're saying, hey, I'm flying, I
want to wear the the compression socks. My wife has
(07:21):
me wearing compression socks on the plane now that now
that I'm over fifty, they we're traveling. No I got
to get those though. That guy. I gotta put that
on my christmassiles. I gotta get blue and orange.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
See if they have any any branded blue and orange
compression socks.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So they could be the Knicks, they could be Syracuse,
they could be the Mets. Yeah no no, or if
you want to make it just look like stirrups so
I can wear I look pretty cool and then I
can kind of roll my sweatpants up to the midcalf
and it looks like, oh, it looks like I'm wearing
a unifor you know what, you can actually get at
least licensed NFL ones, so you can get Jets ones.
Really I want ones that work. Oh sorry, is that to.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Fail failure rate on the Jets versus other compressions.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Like when we when we yeah, yeah, tell, they don't
prevent jets they don't work. Hey, they're great in the
off season, but when they actually have to play wear
them during the season, it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I get anything. It's like, what's the percentage of
failure one? If the Jets up that?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, that's like oh the you know the asteroid that's
gonna hit Earth one point? Oh, now it's out it's
a three point four percent.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, I mean you still have seven years of existence,
so living up people.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So like when we went to the United Kingdom last summer,
like this is the first time that I wore. Pam
was like, we have to wear them. The flights are long,
they're eight out. Like okay, fine, so I wear them
like they're gonna be They're not gonna be uh comfortable,
I'm gonna hate them. And they were okay. I'm like, okay, great.
I mean I was happy to get take them off
when I got off the plane.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But still it's did you feel it bullied or she
was just genuinely genuinely concerned.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, no, no, if she if she's not concerned, that's
when that's when I'm really, hey, listen, wear them or
don't I don't care. Wait we're married, yeah, but I
don't care. No, that's when to be concerned. When your
wife is not saying things that that could help you.
When it's I don't care, that's what. Okay, red flag,
red flag going up. But IM like, this is a
condition that is exacerbated and I'm not lying. It's exacerbated
(09:13):
in people who are tall and people who fly a
lot Hey, what does the NBA have tall people and
people who fly all the time. So if this was, hey,
a broken finger or a fractured scapula or something else, like, Okay,
he's hurt, he can come back, But this is a
condition he's going to manage now for the rest of
his career. Like he's on blood thinners and he's got
(09:35):
to be able to fly in and and maybe it's
something to the point of he doesn't fly back to
back nights. He only you know, maybe he doesn't go
for road trips when they're really far if they have
to fly to New York, if the next game after
that they're coming back to the Midwest and they're playing
in Chicago, Like, this has to be managed because this
is basically what ended Chris Bosh's career, right, Like Chris
(09:56):
Bosh couldn't come back from the blood clots and the thrombosis.
Now the flip side of it, you had Brandon Ingram
who went through it about three or four years ago,
and he's able to come out the other side, just
signed a big contract extension. He's an All Star. So
it's not saying it has to be doom and gloom
for Wemby. But this is a medical condition where you
just you know, here's two players that suffered from it.
One had to basically retire because of it, and one
(10:18):
was able to come back from it. So not to
suddenly say, oh my goodness, this means he's never going
to play again, but this is more than just hey,
here's a guy that got hurt and you look forward
to him coming back in the fall. It's a medical
condition and now they're hoping he can return in the fall.
And how do you manage it when it comes to flying,
when it comes to traveling, how do you go forward
(10:40):
on this? Like this is now a thing that's come
out of nowhere that now you have to find a
way to deal with this for the rest of your career,
Like this is a really big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, thinking at least right now isolated plot, So you know,
surgery is an option, but you start going through the
larger perspective and you know, starting to do our junior
researchers and web md searches and everything else about vein
thrombosis deep vein thrombosis. One of the things you're talking
(11:10):
about is blood flow, and the lungs is something that
needs to be monitored, and obviously he's gonna have the
best care that you could possibly get as a member
of the NBA and certainly a player of his status, stature,
what he means to the game, what he means to
his home country, all of these things that we start
to look in a little bit deeper, Jason. But yeah, Jarring, right,
(11:32):
we talked a lot about once Dearon Fox became a
member of the Spurs and that wild and wily trade
sequencing that we had in the NBA. It's like, all right,
they didn't give up any assets. This could be a
really interesting run, you know, to try to fight back
into at least the play in and then maybe make
some noise with the reconstituted lineup. Now you're talking about
you know where they're at, and they're out of the
(11:54):
top ten in the West. And this is where I
zag for you, because now you get into you know,
your thinking. Cap On Cooper Flag said he was going
to go back to duke ping pong balls. Suddenly I'm creating.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Chaos in the NBA. There you got. I just photo
shopped him into a Spurs jersey for you.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Can you're you're you're talking about let's see, Uh, they
make the big trade for Fox, they got Wemby, they
got that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Now they're gonna have Cooper. They'll be unbeatable. And you
had a bass on and you have let's go. But
but all of that to say, we we have no idea,
you know, how how quickly things can get resolved. Obviously
they're putting a longer time frame on it. Right under promise,
over delivered, general rule of thumb, try to get it
(12:42):
under under control. But for the NBA, for the game,
for a lot of the talking points that that we
have on a nightly basis, you know, you and I
and our our normal seven to eleven Pacific slot, we
get a lot of ends of Spurs games, and we've
been blessed to watch a lot of his development and
growth and what he means to the league. That you
(13:03):
hope that they find a solution and hopefully it's just isolated,
and that whatever medications and treatments he gets on that
they find a solution quickly, whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, And for the basketball perspective of this is
that you know, I've told you for a long time,
by the end of this year, going into next season,
it will be widely accepted that he's the best player
in the NBA because he does things that nobody else
can do. And look at how he's ascending this year.
As great as Jokich is, as great as Yiannis is,
(13:37):
as great as some of these players are. Nobody can
do what Wemby does. Nobody get the shots from the
outside and rim, protect down low and pass, and nobody
can do what he does. And he was on his
way to being that guy. And now when it comes
to the end of the season, it's hopefully he comes
back and he's still Wemby again, like he was on
that kind of path to being the best player in
(13:58):
the league in a couple of months and now suddenly
here we are hoping that he can come back and
play some point in the near future. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon in for Cafino and Ruch. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
we have breaking news coming into our studio right now.
Let's go to Dan Bayer, Who's got the latest on it? Dan,
what do you have for breaking news from Fox Sports guys.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
At the end of an era in Dallas, Zach Martin
has reportedly decided to retire as a member of the
Dallas Cowboys. The guard was a nine time Pro bowler,
seven time All Pro had an expiring contract this season,
a season that ended early because of ankle surgery. Zach
Martin surely a Hall of Famer mmm, retiring today at
(14:44):
the age of thirty four.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, Wow, there we go. Hey, thanks Dan, big stuff there.
We'll have more on this story coming up later on
this hour. The Cowboys clearly at a crossroads. Now they're
going to move on without Zach Martin. Well. Coming up next,
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Fox Sports Radio. Cavino and Rich, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon
in for the guys today, first exhibition game of the
baseball season, Dodgers and the Cubs, someone uniquely qualified to
talk about that, the beginning of the baseball season. How
much trouble the Yankees might be in already, And the
(17:04):
biggest sporting event of the week, biggest hockey game probably
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well with us here at Fox Sports Radio. John Paul Morosi,
John Paul, what's happening, Bud? How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm doing great, my friends. And let me tell you
this much this game you said the sporting event of
the week, It might be the sporting event of the year,
with all due respect to the Super Bowl, anything else
going on. I cannot wait for eight pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah. I look, it's the biggest hockey game since probably
the United States Russia in nineteen eighty. With everything going
around at the geopolitical situation about annexing Canada annex in California. Hey,
I'm throwing this out there at John Paul. If we win,
we get Canada. If Canada wins, they get California. Let's
really ratchet things up with the stakes of this game
(17:58):
for the four nations.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think the game is perfect just as it is.
We don't need to add anything else. This is about
two great hockey teams in a great hockey town in Boston, Massachusetts.
If you set aside everything else, it is just a
great game, which is honestly the way that I'm looking at.
(18:19):
There may be conclusions drawn or subplots discussed on X
at various times, but I think it's a transformational game
for a couple of reasons. Number one, it is the
biggest best on best game between the US and Canada
since the twenty ten gold medal game in Vancouver, and
it's coming at a time where US hockey is on
(18:42):
the rise. The US has won a lot of intermediate
events like the World Junior Championships multiple times, but we
have not won an Olympic gold medal since eighty and
we have not won a best on best tournaments it's
the ninety six World Cups. So this is a chance
for the as the Herb Brooks character says, a miracle,
(19:04):
declare that it's our time. And I think the diversity
of the roster says a lot. You've got a captain
who grew up in Scottsdale, Arizona, Austin Matthews, who is
Mexican American. His mom is from Adamalseo, Mexico. His dad's
a former baseball player from California, and so Austin Matthews
that profile of player where he grew up, how we
(19:26):
learned the game. That player did not exist on the
nineteen eighty Olympic teams, and so in order did it
really exist on the ninety six World Cup team. So
it's a fundamentally different era. You still have the old
guard of the Canadian team with Sidney Crosby, who I
thought was their best player for a lot of stretches
of the game on Saturday, or at least certainly their
(19:47):
game against the Swedes, and he was all over the
place helping them get to the gold medal game here.
So it's I think it's that there are just so
many subplots here. The US probably has the best goaltender
in the world in Connor Hallibuck Canada Cal mccarr back
in the lineup. So we can talk about this angle
from any number of different different approaches here with this
with this game, but I just think it's going to
(20:09):
be a magnificent hockey game that hopefully goes into overtime
with a dramatic conclusion that we can talk about it
for many decades to come, and what a perfect appetizer
for the Olympics one year from now in Milano Cortina, Italy.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Goals over under is five and a half when we
played on Saturday, and that had sixty three hits over
under on the goals.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What are you predicting here, JP, I.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Think it'll be lower scoring than that. I feel like
it's another three to one game, maybe two to one
with an empty netter either way. The thing is with
the US, I'm a little worried about the health of
the forward group, and certainly there was a lot of
conversation about Matthew could chuck Austin Matthews missing the previous
game against the Swedes. There obviously was was the injury
(20:57):
to to Brady early on in that game. There have
been a lot of injuries that have happened with the
top US forwards, so that worries me a little bit.
And the thing too is with mccarr back in the
lineup and where I think Canada will score more than
one goal than they did in the first meeting. Mccar
will help them break the lines that there was a
lot of The US forwards did a really excellent job
(21:20):
of backchecking and creating a lot of pressure on the
Canadian forwards. But having a defenseman like mccarr who is
so skilled at at dictating the rush, I think will
help them neutralize the way the US forwards played. And
I think Canada is going to have a much better
offensive nights tonight than they did in Montreal on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Really, because I have two words where I completely disagree
with you on that.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Go.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Two words. Connor Hellibuck the best American goalie that we've
ever had. I mean, he's Jim Craig. He's going to
win his third VESNA, He's going to win the MVP.
He's he's already at thirty one at I mean, he
just plays in Winnipeg, which is, you know, not his fault.
But you know, people don't really know, but he's the
best goalie that America has ever produced. And you know,
(22:05):
and I went back and it was and nothing's been
you know, stuck with me the last couple of days
more than when I watched Jayon Rate talk about this,
you know, you know, big game, Cana looking at it
from Canada's perspective. I always like looking at big games
from the other team's perspective, see what they think. Yeah,
and it was, And the best thing I heard was that, Hey,
no matter what Canada has the forwards, they have more talent.
But if Connor Hellibook doesn't have a bad night, Canada
(22:29):
is not gonna win. And Connor Hellibook does not have
bad nights like that, Like, there is no more truer
thing than that. And nothing can flip a game more
than a goalie who not only is hot, but is
the best goalie in the game. Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,
Canada can can dictate the pressure. That's fine. I'll take
the United States two to one.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, it may well end that way. And and everything
you said about Hellibuck is absolutely true. The one thing is,
certainly it's hard to slow down McDavid McKinnon and back
to back games that those two players are superb in
the taste they play at. They're going to have to,
(23:07):
I think, get Hellibuck moving a bit cross crease. Hellabuck
is so tall and he takes up so much of
the net, and his agility is so superior that you're
going to have to get some movement cross crease and
some passes that get a movement right and left. I
think for Canada to be able to score some goals
in this game. So I think you are exactly right.
(23:30):
And this game comes down to Hellabuck and if he
has a great night, which he certainly did against Canada
he also did against Finland. If he does it again
against Canada, the US will be champions of the four
nations faceoff.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
There you go, as we transition away from the Joni
Mitchell approach, Jason takes to life of looking at life
and love through both sides.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now it's Jean Paul Morosi with us here Fox Sport.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Hears your Radio Cavino and Rich Jason and I in
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Speaker 1 (23:57):
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Speaker 4 (24:00):
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Speaker 2 (24:13):
First of all, I'll try in terms of solving all
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Speaker 1 (24:18):
You're a smart man.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Come on, well, all I can report to you right
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Speaker 3 (24:36):
My goodness, booking best went out for one.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I handled the season at this point in time. But
I say this, of course in ingest. It was encouraging
again for them to get Yamamoto. He started today, he
fished pretty well. There's a lot. There is a lot
of animosity in the game toward the Dodgers, There's no
question about it. And it's interesting that it's both within
the industry and for fans, just based on the fact
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that they are spending at such a high level while
also developing players at a very strong rate. And when
we had on MLB Network this morning, we showed a
graphic of the Dodgers starting pitching options, and you could
argue that the Dodgers second starting five is as good
or better than almost any other rotation in the National League.
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That means the guys that are not even going to
begin to hear. Certainly injury is part of this on
some level. Otani's not quite ready to pitch yet. Kershaw
is not going to be ready on opening day either.
But at some point you're going to add two Hall
of famers to your rotation just because you can. And
you've already got Snell and Glass now and Yamamoto and Tasaki.
The depth is really something to behold. So is there jealousy,
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is that envy? Whatever word you want to describe, I
think it all applies here. And yet, what I would
say to the entire industry, the Dodgers were down to
one in the division series of the Padres, there were
one loss away from this being a very different conversation
in a lot of different ways. So it maybe they're
not quite as inevitable as some would describe them as being.
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They are an exceptionally well run organization and the way
in which they have done things to an extent, the
way in which the Mets have done things have contributed
to what I think is a an accurate description of
of the industry as being the haves and have not.
There's just a large percentage of teams that do not
play realistically on the highest end of the players, and
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I do think that is contributing to what is some
angst about the overall direction of the industry as we
move towards the next TV negotiation.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
John Paul Morosi with US. John Paul, I want to
talk about the second best team in New York for
a minute, the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So with what's going on it said, by the way,
for our daytime audience, Jason is a Mets fan. Just
wants to get that out there if you're tuning in
at a different time they normally do.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
He loves the method. Is therefore speaking about the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So for the Yankees here, I mean, I know that
it's early in spring training, but to get the news
two days ago that not only is John Carlos Stanton
not swinging a bat, he hasn't swung a bat in
a month, and he has two bad elbows. All of
a sudden, John Paul, I'm saying, I'm waiting for the
day where we find out, Hey, he's out a long time,
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and then middle of the season it's a FATA complete.
He's gonna miss the year Like this is this kind
of reminds me of cesspitous with the bad heels the
beginning of spring training, guests who didn't play again, Like
this is not something where I think, Hey, little bit
of rest and Stan's gonna be ready for opening Day.
I really wonder how much he's even gonna play this year.
And the Yankees need him, especially with Yeah, they made
additions in the offseason to pivot away from Soto, but
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they need Stanton to be Stanton if they're gonna do
anything this year.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They do. And you know what would be really a
convenient and interesting storyline. What if what if the Red
Sox just traded them devs to be the DH that
that'd be pretty interesting. Would I say this in jest?
Of course, I'm really serious about that, because there's been
a bit of a bit of a controversy in Boston
about how how Devers and Bregman are fitting together.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But we wouldn't know anywhere to be a DH. He
would he would, he would say notice because if they
say complete third base, he.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Would say, yes, exactly well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And that's where perhaps the Yankees find a way to
rekindle things with with the Nolan Arnatto trade possibility, they
probably have to evaluate as well what they can expect
from DJ Lemahew this year, who missed so much time
last year. Let's not forget that the Yankees with Soto,
by the way, and you may have heard if you
if you're just joining us, they no longer have won Soto,
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but they they really needed John Carlos Stanton to get
through the Kansas City Royals and the Cleveland Guardians last
year in the playoffs. He was honestly, after Soto, their
most dangerous hitter and so in the playoffs, this is
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a significant issue for them. Now, does it promote some
thought of maybe they end up trading Stroman for a bat.
Stroman is out there. There's been a lot to talking
about what his role is going to be this year,
This whole situation with Stroman being available and uncertainty at
third base and now uncertainty with Stanton. While I'm excited
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about the fact that they've got Goldschmidt and they've got Bellinger,
they've got Williams of the bullpen, They've made some good
moves even though they didn't have Soto. They have recovered nicely.
But this situation right now with Stanton is certainly concerning,
and it feels to me like there is going to
be at least a minor trade made by the Yankees
between now and opening day to address the situation, because
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if you can't swing a bat on February twentieth, I'm
real concerned about how it's going to look on April twentieth,
July twentieth, and certainly October twentieth going forward.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi. That is at John
MOROSEI check them out with us here at Fox Sports Radio,
MLBAM Network and tonight for the Four Nations Championship. John
Paul is always buddy appreciated. Man. We'll talk to you
down the road. We'll talk to you tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And it sounds great, my friend's biggest hockey game we
have seen in more than forty years, and we cannot
wait for the US and Canada enjoy everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Thanks buddy. I mean, really to say it's this big
a deal, this game, I mean I didn't think it
was that hot a take, because yes, we've had big
games in the Olympics before in the World Cup of
Hockey with the United States and Canada, United States and
different Yeah, we've had that right, But this game, it's
in our window. It's in a week of sports where
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the NBA still is coming back from the All Star
break and you know, we finished major we finished the
NFL season, Baseball spring training is just starting. It's in
a great spot on the calendar. It's it's in the
East Coast window forest. We don't have to wake up
at three in the morning like I've done in the
past to watch a hockey game. It's I got to
wake up. It's three in the morning across the Grafway,
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across the globe, and the geopolitical aspects of it are
just you can't ignore them. You can't ignore what's been
going on with President Trump and Prime Minister Trudeau and
California and Canada and all of this. This is a
tremendous time for hockey, and they'll get a big springboard
coming off of this game, almost kind of like what
hockey got in nineteen eighty that they dined out on
(31:26):
for the next ten to twelve years before Gary Bettman's deciding, hey,
we're locking out now. We're running hockey all the way down,
so I expect that kind of bump from the NHL
from hockey coming off this game.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, I mean, it just really quick. Number One, do
I have to stay in the studio? Are we We're
not abdicating the throne?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We get to cover this live on air?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Sure, I can lock the door and keep the odd
couple out later. Second, I'm really.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Disappointed that none of the news aggregators grabbed our trade
proposal and ran with it like it was a real
news story.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I mean, I think that'd be great. Like if the
United States wins, we get Canada. If Canada wins, they
get California. All right? With that, I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Really hoping to be interviewed all across the globe.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, they could get they could get the whole. I mean,
if we got to add in, you know, Washington and
Oregon to make it the whole West coast. Okay, you know,
it's got to look nice on a map, So if
we wanted to, I understand if we had to do that,
but what why not make it go? H Time to
find out what's trending right now the wide world of
sports from Dan Bayer d B. What do you got
for the.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Breaking news this hour is that Dallas Cowboys guard Zach
Martin is announcing his retirement. Martin spent eleven years in
the National Football League, seven time first Team All Pro,
two times second team All Pro, went to nine Pro Bowls,
and in fact, Martin started one hundred and sixty two
games in his career, started every game that he played.
Didn't play in every game of his eleven years, but
(32:47):
in those that he played and started, everyone had just
seven holding penalties throughout those one hundred and sixty two games.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Zach Martin hanging him up today.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Spurs star Victor webin ya'mos going to miss the rest
of the season because of a blood clot in his shoulders.
Spur said wemby as deep vein thrombosis in his right shoulder,
as he'd experienced symptoms lately, said that he had hoped
to be all right after the All Star break. That
was not the case, and now Victor Wembinyama is done
for the year. Bucks forward Bobby portis suspended twenty five
(33:18):
games for testing positive for a bandit substance. Mavericks forward
Anthony Davis is progressing from his adductor injury. However, he'll
be re evaluated in two weeks. Lakers guard Luka Doncic
out to night against Portland, while Lebron James is questionable.
Yankees a given manager Aaron Booner an extension through twenty
twenty seven. An update from John Morosi giving the Cubs
(33:39):
Dodgers score. It's not twelve three Cubs on top of
the Dodgers and the replay. Bobby Miller did have to
leave the game the Dodgers pitcher struck in the forehead
by a line drive off the bat of the Cubs
Michael Bush that was going one hundred and five miles
per hour, But again, Miller was able to walk off
on his own power. Finally, guys, Texas and USCF decided
to not hold spring games this year.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Back to you, thanks a bunch, Dan, appreciate it. That's
an incredible stat from Zach Martin. In his entire career,
he's made All Pro nine more times than he committed
holding penalties, seven more All Pro selections than holding penalties.
Now that's ally Hello Canton, Zach Martin, we walk right in.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Can they figure out a way to make him hold
out too? Because we try to keep the cowboys out
on our show.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
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get off the air. So last night was the real
official beginning, I guess you could say of the second half,
not kind of second last third of the NBA season
where the Lakers fell to the Hornets and an incredibly
embarrassing loss for the Lakers. They've now lost their last
two games of two teams with a combined record of
(36:42):
twenty seven and eighty and Luka Doncic looks like he's
going through all the reasons why the Evericks traded him,
still having trouble. He looks like he's playing at three
quarter speed. Mike. That's the best thing, the best way
I can describe. I'm not saying he's not playing hard,
but I don't know what he's capable of, how much
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he's capable of playing. But he's moving a lot slower
than even Luca normally is, because Luca's game is about deception,
about angles, about leverage, but he's just no, he doesn't
have a lot of separation. The Hornets allowed him to
take any three pointer he wanted last night. The Lakers
went to Lebron at the end of the game for
the last shot because you couldn't go to Luca because
(37:23):
you couldn't hit anything like I'm confident that the Lakers'
offense is going to look just like an absolute monster
at some point, but it's going to take a while
because Luca just doesn't look the same and for all
of the reasons. Now I think people are finally coming
around to something we talked about when the trade happened.
The Mavericks didn't just wake up one morning and Nico
(37:44):
Harrison said I want to trade Luka Doncic and he
did it before they talked to anybody like. This is
something that went on for a long time, and they
have their reasons. They didn't want to commit a lot
of money to him. They didn't think he'd ever get
in shape, they thought his body would break down, he
wouldn't listen to them when they talked about staying in
shaper however, they felt about, you know, his beer drinking.
(38:04):
There was a reason why they traded him, and you
can agree or disagree with it, but it's not like
they just decided to do something willy nilly. There's a
reason why they traded him, and you're sort of seeing now, Oh,
I get why they moved on from Luca. Now I
understand what's happening. So they've gone through getting all the
arrows in the beginning, going oh, look what you guys
are doing. Oh, now I kind of get it a
(38:25):
little bit why they traded Luca.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
The best part of that analysis you had me at
Willy Nilly, but it all comes I like.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Saying, Willy Nilly's fun.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Well, but with all of these kind of moves, right,
whenever you move on, it's like relationships of the people
that you know, Oh, I'm sorry to hear they broke up.
You don't know all everything that's It's like you know
the old what Roosevelt, right, the man in the arena
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You don't know the cost Paige.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
You don't know what the conversations, what the circumstances are.
In every respect, I think Dallas is convincing me that
bit bit they're gonna leak out everything they can. It's
like Andy Dufrayne at Shawshank with the rocks. Bit by bit,
we're gonna get it all, and we're gonna dig that
a hole and we're gonna crawl through however, many hundreds
(39:12):
of yards of blanke and we're there.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
But all of that to say, yeah, it was he
was slow, right a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
The explosiveness that you're used to of him getting to
the rims like, wow, he got met by two guys. Right,
It's like we were watching the gin. The other night
the USC UCLA game, right when Bets would get the
ball down low and all of a sudden, here comes
Juju Watkins from the backside part of her eight blocks.
Like Bets normally gets turned and gets that shot right up,
(39:39):
but not that night. Here you're looking at, you know,
Luca trying to get the timing and also learning how
to work without the ball. He looked confused and lost
in some of those possessions, like down the stretch, I
was waiting from them. If he had pockets, his hands
would have been in the pockets as the ball went
and Scott swung to Lebron because he had no role
in that final play.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, I mean it's I don't I don't want to
say that there. I don't think that Luca's ever going
to get back to being Luca. But it was never
gonna happen with the Mavericks. And that's what I think
people are missing, is that, well, you find a way
to hold on, we find a way to make it work.
You think for six years it didn't try to find
a way to make it work. Really, you think for
six years again, they didn't just wake up and decide, hey,
we want to trade him, whatever Lucas accomplishing with the Lakers,
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whatever he winds up, because now he's been put on
notice he's gotten traded. That the whole conditioning and being
in shape is front burner topic with him now. It's
all anybody's going to talk about if he can't stay
in the lineup or camp. And he's already not playing
again tonight, not playing in the second to back to back.
So you again reasons why the Mavericks traded him. Whatever
he does, he simply wasn't going to do in Dallas.
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That relationship had run its course because you were coming
up on a make or break situation, which is, do
you want to give him three hundred and thirty million
dollars at the end of this season the extension he's
eligible for. Maybe he doesn't want to take it, So yeah,
you want to move on and try to get somebody,
And you got an All NBA player in Anthony Davis,
albeit he has his own injury concerns, but still you
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got the best player you were gonna get in this trade.
And understand that, no matter how you want to slice it,
just because people don't like the trade, wanted to make
it work. Doesn't mean it was gonna work.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
It's like when you hear two people talk about breaking
up and you go, oh my god, but you guys
did so well together. You guys played off each other
so much, you guys love each other. Yeah, well it
didn't work. Well, I can't understand why you're getting divorced.
You're not in our marriage for the last six or
seven years. Understand, Sometimes things come up that you can't
get path you from the outside. Just because you wanted
to stay doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right, you're trying to
break that down and in the end you're hoping to
get the best out of him in this next iteration.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But you know, I'm
always for taking a big swing, bring the best player in,
and if it doesn't work out, you can at least say, hey,
at least you tried. You get a cake, like Bart
Simmson gave a homer.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, yeah, I mean, anytime you add a cake at
the end, it always makes it easier. Like I could
swallow this a little about beat if you give me cakeing.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Oh always right, here's some bad news.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Have some cake. Yeah,
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast.
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Smith Mike Harmon in for them today as we celebrate
(00:30):
the opening of baseball season. Yeah, Dodgers aren't celebrating. They're
getting drilled. This lineup is terrible. It's over, I mean
really hot takes eighty seven seven ninety nine on Fox
Did did Did Dodgers blow it by spending all this
money in the off season? You?
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I like what you're talking about here? Is it money
poorly spent? I will say this, you know how much
I hate the Cubs Southsider for those unaware and new
to the Smith and Harmon combination, White Sox and everything
else in Chicago except the Cups. But I really do
like these light blue caps that they're wearing today. And
(01:07):
Iowa Sam, who's on the technical producer today. He smiled,
and he goes makes me want a klondike bar. Yeah,
that bear sitting there, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I don't know how much I like him because they
kind of look like either like alternate Detroit Lions hats
or what's the what's the clothing company? Where the the
mascot is like the polar bear but there's like a
sea in it? Like what's that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Like
that's kind of.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
What it looks like.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Like it's like what was echo? It kind of looks
like it kind of looks like one of those hats,
like it's kind of a cross between a Detroit Lions
third uniform hat and an Echo hat.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
I don't know, Okay, I can get on board that
I did, but it's it's a rhino.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I think, Iowa, Sam, It's a rhino, is what it is?
I thought it was a polar bear.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
No, I can see why people might think that it's
it's a rhino.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Okay, what's what's the polar bear on? There's a polar
man one too, isn't there? Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
I'm trying to know your logos.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Of course, I tried to do the search and immediately
it's like, hey, would you like one hundred dollars inflatable
light blue ted costume. Oh okay, it's a weird cause
play thing. I started going down a deep, dark rabbit hole. Man,
I gotta burn my computer now.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, you know that part of me wants to see
just what your search history is on the computer. Part
of me doesn't.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
No, you do, because it's really an I Galctic. I
bring the I bring worlds together. I mean I am Galactus.
I am the eater of worlds.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
I don't know. Man. Part of me would say, oh, hey, Harmon,
can you explain you know what. I'm not gonna wait,
hip deep into this, explain what. Okay, I am what
I am.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
I'm an open body.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Let's go.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'm kind of a big deal.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Well, you walked into the show one day and said
the show owns part of Andre the Giants Jockstrap I did,
and we do. We still do.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
I'm holding on for dear life.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Oh and you wonder why I kind of I don't
know if I want to see your search history or not.
We own one of Andre the Giants Jockstraps. I bought
the show's name.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
We haven't tell me. That's not great. It's not a
lot of shares. It's a small fractional interest in it,
but it's a nice conversation starter. No property, yeah, Andre
the Giants, Jockstrap.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
What do you have? Oh, I have a beach house
on the coast. Oh that sounds wonderful. Yeah. No, we
have a house at Casamel Oh yeah, No, I have
a great I own property in the Greater Often area.
What do you have? We own part of Andre the
Giants Jocksas.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
I'm gonna be honest, most of the folks I hang with. Yeah,
there's a lot of people I know that could go
through the laundry list of properties, like you know, big
shots like you versus the people that I'm hanging out with,
you know, in the corner of a bar that you know,
they're gonna be more in line with the property holdings
of me.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
All right, here's what I want you to do. I
want you to put that in the front of your
Tinder page. I don't have any page, and you tell
we get okay, So I want you to get a
tender page it well, you can still join up. Just
just put and put that very very uh uh prominently
on the front. Mike Harmon, you know, nighttime gabber Fox
(04:16):
sports radio owner of Andre the Giant Jockstrap. Tell me
how that goes, and then say, well, here's me and
mine and now we really have a conversation. Starter again,
Why I don't I don't know what I want to
see about the search history on your computer. I really don't.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
You took us down that deep dark path. That's your fault,
not mine, And I have a new look.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Man.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
If we go down the history of the show, plenty
of one offs, and iowa Sam I might have to
pay him as a researcher for show history. I think
there have been a number of things that we could
probably play a couple of segments of what the hell
is Jason into?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, if you want to take stuff completely out of context.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Context of the context some of your things and people
in places and things that you've referenced, don't go coming
at me.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I got receipts too, Pal.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
I just gave you the biggest receipt Andre the Giants Jockstrap.
That's a bit I don't know that you ever received.
You don't have. You could go to CVS and get
everybody's receipt for the day. It would look like a
big streamer like in the Olympics. When when the when?
When the dancer's going you see the big streamers going on.
I think I might do that. Like Will Ferrell, you
wouldn't have enough as as Andre, the Giants jockstrap would
(05:31):
not happen.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
It's good times, man, good times.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
Are intrepid producer Justin Frostberg. What do you got? But
what's been washed?
Speaker 1 (05:37):
More recently the Andre jockstrap game used or your football
head coach at Syracuse?
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Oh wow?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
All right for those unaware, I'm storry.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
Fran Brown doesn't shower. The question, Well, we haven't had
a game in a while, so I want to say
it's Fran Brown no, but it is actually shoutowering now
because there's no games and no time to not shower
after wins. Because you're superstitious, I think now in the offseason,
all kay of, but you.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Won the bowl game, so he can't shower all off season.
If that's the superstition, that's the superstition. Think about that steak.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Big story out of the NBA promised just a few
minutes ago, and I think everybody was shocked today when
you you found out somehow that uh Victor Webbin Yama
is out for the season, the Spurs announcing he's going
to miss the rest of the year with deep vein
thrombosis in his right shoulder, basically deep vein thrombos. You
hear about this a lot. It's a blood clot. It
was discovered shortly after the All Star Game. His condition
(06:40):
is treated with blood thinning medication, which if you know
you ever on blood thinning medication participating in contact sports,
you really can't do it right, you know, there's there's
too much susceptibility for injury. So he is So he
is out. And the big shocker even further from this
is that they're hopeful he's able to be back for
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the beginning of next season, like that's the thing. And
and to think this is this is much more than
just Wemby's out for the year with an This isn't
an injury. This is a medical condition. And anybody that's
ever flown, you know, you get certain, you get a
certain age, and suddenly you're saying, hey, I'm flying, I
want to wear the the compression socks. My wife has
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me wearing compression socks on the plane now that now
that I'm over fifty, they we're traveling. No I got
to get those though. That guy. I gotta put that
on my christmassiles. I gotta get blue and orange.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
See if they have any any branded blue and orange
compression socks.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
So they could be the Knicks, they could be Syracuse,
they could be the Mets. Yeah no no, or if
you want to make it just look like stirrups so
I can wear I look pretty cool and then I
can kind of roll my sweatpants up to the midcalf
and it looks like, oh, it looks like I'm wearing
a unifor you know what, you can actually get at
least licensed NFL ones, so you can get Jets ones.
Really I want ones that work. Oh sorry, is that to.
Speaker 4 (07:57):
Fail failure rate on the Jets versus other compressions.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Like when we when we yeah, yeah, tell, they don't
prevent jets they don't work. Hey, they're great in the
off season, but when they actually have to play wear
them during the season, it doesn't work as well.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
So I get anything. It's like, what's the percentage of
failure one? If the Jets up that?
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yeah, that's like oh the you know the asteroid that's
gonna hit Earth one point? Oh, now it's out it's
a three point four percent.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, I mean you still have seven years of existence,
so living up people.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
So like when we went to the United Kingdom last summer,
like this is the first time that I wore. Pam
was like, we have to wear them. The flights are long,
they're eight out. Like okay, fine, so I wear them
like they're gonna be They're not gonna be uh comfortable,
I'm gonna hate them. And they were okay. I'm like, okay, great.
I mean I was happy to get take them off
when I got off the plane.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
But still it's did you feel it bullied or she
was just genuinely genuinely concerned.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
No, no, no, if she if she's not concerned, that's
when that's when I'm really, hey, listen, wear them or
don't I don't care. Wait we're married, yeah, but I
don't care. No, that's when to be concerned. When your
wife is not saying things that that could help you.
When it's I don't care, that's what. Okay, red flag,
red flag going up. But IM like, this is a
condition that is exacerbated and I'm not lying. It's exacerbated
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in people who are tall and people who fly a
lot Hey, what does the NBA have tall people and
people who fly all the time. So if this was, hey,
a broken finger or a fractured scapula or something else, like, Okay,
he's hurt, he can come back, But this is a
condition he's going to manage now for the rest of
his career. Like he's on blood thinners and he's got
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to be able to fly in and and maybe it's
something to the point of he doesn't fly back to
back nights. He only you know, maybe he doesn't go
for road trips when they're really far if they have
to fly to New York, if the next game after
that they're coming back to the Midwest and they're playing
in Chicago, Like, this has to be managed because this
is basically what ended Chris Bosh's career, right, Like Chris
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Bosh couldn't come back from the blood clots and the thrombosis.
Now the flip side of it, you had Brandon Ingram
who went through it about three or four years ago,
and he's able to come out the other side, just
signed a big contract extension. He's an All Star. So
it's not saying it has to be doom and gloom
for Wemby. But this is a medical condition where you
just you know, here's two players that suffered from it.
One had to basically retire because of it, and one
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was able to come back from it. So not to
suddenly say, oh my goodness, this means he's never going
to play again, but this is more than just hey,
here's a guy that got hurt and you look forward
to him coming back in the fall. It's a medical
condition and now they're hoping he can return in the fall.
And how do you manage it when it comes to flying,
when it comes to traveling, how do you go forward
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on this? Like this is now a thing that's come
out of nowhere that now you have to find a
way to deal with this for the rest of your career,
Like this is a really big deal.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, thinking at least right now isolated plot, So you know,
surgery is an option, but you start going through the
larger perspective and you know, starting to do our junior
researchers and web md searches and everything else about vein
thrombosis deep vein thrombosis. One of the things you're talking
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about is blood flow, and the lungs is something that
needs to be monitored, and obviously he's gonna have the
best care that you could possibly get as a member
of the NBA and certainly a player of his status, stature,
what he means to the game, what he means to
his home country, all of these things that we start
to look in a little bit deeper, Jason. But yeah, Jarring, right,
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we talked a lot about once Dearon Fox became a
member of the Spurs and that wild and wily trade
sequencing that we had in the NBA. It's like, all right,
they didn't give up any assets. This could be a
really interesting run, you know, to try to fight back
into at least the play in and then maybe make
some noise with the reconstituted lineup. Now you're talking about
you know where they're at, and they're out of the
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top ten in the West. And this is where I
zag for you, because now you get into you know,
your thinking. Cap On Cooper Flag said he was going
to go back to duke ping pong balls. Suddenly I'm creating.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Chaos in the NBA. There you got. I just photo
shopped him into a Spurs jersey for you.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Can you're you're you're talking about let's see, Uh, they
make the big trade for Fox, they got Wemby, they
got that.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Now they're gonna have Cooper. They'll be unbeatable. And you
had a bass on and you have let's go. But
but all of that to say, we we have no idea,
you know, how how quickly things can get resolved. Obviously
they're putting a longer time frame on it. Right under promise,
over delivered, general rule of thumb, try to get it
(12:42):
under under control. But for the NBA, for the game,
for a lot of the talking points that that we
have on a nightly basis, you know, you and I
and our our normal seven to eleven Pacific slot, we
get a lot of ends of Spurs games, and we've
been blessed to watch a lot of his development and
growth and what he means to the league. That you
(13:03):
hope that they find a solution and hopefully it's just isolated,
and that whatever medications and treatments he gets on that
they find a solution quickly, whatever that may be.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
You know, And for the basketball perspective of this is
that you know, I've told you for a long time,
by the end of this year, going into next season,
it will be widely accepted that he's the best player
in the NBA because he does things that nobody else
can do. And look at how he's ascending this year.
As great as Jokich is, as great as Yiannis is,
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as great as some of these players are. Nobody can
do what Wemby does. Nobody get the shots from the
outside and rim, protect down low and pass, and nobody
can do what he does. And he was on his
way to being that guy. And now when it comes
to the end of the season, it's hopefully he comes
back and he's still Wemby again, like he was on
that kind of path to being the best player in
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the league in a couple of months and now suddenly
here we are hoping that he can come back and
play some point in the near future. Jason Smith, Mike
Harmon in for Cafino and Ruch. Here on Fox Sports Radio,
we have breaking news coming into our studio right now.
Let's go to Dan Bayer, Who's got the latest on it? Dan,
what do you have for breaking news from Fox Sports guys.
Speaker 5 (14:22):
At the end of an era in Dallas, Zach Martin
has reportedly decided to retire as a member of the
Dallas Cowboys. The guard was a nine time Pro bowler,
seven time All Pro had an expiring contract this season,
a season that ended early because of ankle surgery. Zach
Martin surely a Hall of Famer mmm, retiring today at
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the age of thirty four.
Speaker 3 (14:46):
Wow, Wow, there we go. Hey, thanks Dan, big stuff there.
We'll have more on this story coming up later on
this hour. The Cowboys clearly at a crossroads. Now they're
going to move on without Zach Martin. Well. Coming up next,
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Fox Sports Radio. Cavino and Rich, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon
in for the guys today, first exhibition game of the
baseball season, Dodgers and the Cubs, someone uniquely qualified to
talk about that, the beginning of the baseball season. How
much trouble the Yankees might be in already, And the
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biggest sporting event of the week, biggest hockey game probably
since nineteen eighty coming up tonight. It is Fox Sports
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well with us here at Fox Sports Radio. John Paul Morosi,
John Paul, what's happening, Bud? How are you?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I'm doing great, my friends. And let me tell you
this much this game you said the sporting event of
the week, It might be the sporting event of the year,
with all due respect to the Super Bowl, anything else
going on. I cannot wait for eight pm tonight.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Yeah. I look, it's the biggest hockey game since probably
the United States Russia in nineteen eighty. With everything going
around at the geopolitical situation about annexing Canada annex in California. Hey,
I'm throwing this out there at John Paul. If we win,
we get Canada. If Canada wins, they get California. Let's
really ratchet things up with the stakes of this game
(17:58):
for the four nations.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
I think the game is perfect just as it is.
We don't need to add anything else. This is about
two great hockey teams in a great hockey town in Boston, Massachusetts.
If you set aside everything else, it is just a
great game, which is honestly the way that I'm looking at.
(18:19):
There may be conclusions drawn or subplots discussed on X
at various times, but I think it's a transformational game
for a couple of reasons. Number one, it is the
biggest best on best game between the US and Canada
since the twenty ten gold medal game in Vancouver, and
it's coming at a time where US hockey is on
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the rise. The US has won a lot of intermediate
events like the World Junior Championships multiple times, but we
have not won an Olympic gold medal since eighty and
we have not won a best on best tournaments it's
the ninety six World Cups. So this is a chance
for the as the Herb Brooks character says, a miracle,
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declare that it's our time. And I think the diversity
of the roster says a lot. You've got a captain
who grew up in Scottsdale, Arizona, Austin Matthews, who is
Mexican American. His mom is from Adamalseo, Mexico. His dad's
a former baseball player from California, and so Austin Matthews
that profile of player where he grew up, how we
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learned the game. That player did not exist on the
nineteen eighty Olympic teams, and so in order did it
really exist on the ninety six World Cup team. So
it's a fundamentally different era. You still have the old
guard of the Canadian team with Sidney Crosby, who I
thought was their best player for a lot of stretches
of the game on Saturday, or at least certainly their
(19:47):
game against the Swedes, and he was all over the
place helping them get to the gold medal game here.
So it's I think it's that there are just so
many subplots here. The US probably has the best goaltender
in the world in Connor Hallibuck Canada Cal mccarr back
in the lineup. So we can talk about this angle
from any number of different different approaches here with this
with this game, but I just think it's going to
(20:09):
be a magnificent hockey game that hopefully goes into overtime
with a dramatic conclusion that we can talk about it
for many decades to come, and what a perfect appetizer
for the Olympics one year from now in Milano Cortina, Italy.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Goals over under is five and a half when we
played on Saturday, and that had sixty three hits over
under on the goals.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
What are you predicting here, JP, I.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
Think it'll be lower scoring than that. I feel like
it's another three to one game, maybe two to one
with an empty netter either way. The thing is with
the US, I'm a little worried about the health of
the forward group, and certainly there was a lot of
conversation about Matthew could chuck Austin Matthews missing the previous
game against the Swedes. There obviously was was the injury
(20:57):
to to Brady early on in that game. There have
been a lot of injuries that have happened with the
top US forwards, so that worries me a little bit.
And the thing too is with mccarr back in the
lineup and where I think Canada will score more than
one goal than they did in the first meeting. Mccar
will help them break the lines that there was a
lot of The US forwards did a really excellent job
(21:20):
of backchecking and creating a lot of pressure on the
Canadian forwards. But having a defenseman like mccarr who is
so skilled at at dictating the rush, I think will
help them neutralize the way the US forwards played. And
I think Canada is going to have a much better
offensive nights tonight than they did in Montreal on Saturday.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Really, because I have two words where I completely disagree
with you on that.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Go.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Two words. Connor Hellibuck the best American goalie that we've
ever had. I mean, he's Jim Craig. He's going to
win his third VESNA, He's going to win the MVP.
He's he's already at thirty one at I mean, he
just plays in Winnipeg, which is, you know, not his fault.
But you know, people don't really know, but he's the
best goalie that America has ever produced. And you know,
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and I went back and it was and nothing's been
you know, stuck with me the last couple of days
more than when I watched Jayon Rate talk about this,
you know, you know, big game, Cana looking at it
from Canada's perspective. I always like looking at big games
from the other team's perspective, see what they think. Yeah,
and it was, And the best thing I heard was that, Hey,
no matter what Canada has the forwards, they have more talent.
But if Connor Hellibook doesn't have a bad night, Canada
(22:29):
is not gonna win. And Connor Hellibook does not have
bad nights like that, Like, there is no more truer
thing than that. And nothing can flip a game more
than a goalie who not only is hot, but is
the best goalie in the game. Yeah, it's gonna be tough. Yeah,
Canada can can dictate the pressure. That's fine. I'll take
the United States two to one.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Okay, it may well end that way. And and everything
you said about Hellibuck is absolutely true. The one thing is,
certainly it's hard to slow down McDavid McKinnon and back
to back games that those two players are superb in
the taste they play at. They're going to have to,
(23:07):
I think, get Hellibuck moving a bit cross crease. Hellabuck
is so tall and he takes up so much of
the net, and his agility is so superior that you're
going to have to get some movement cross crease and
some passes that get a movement right and left. I
think for Canada to be able to score some goals
in this game. So I think you are exactly right.
(23:30):
And this game comes down to Hellabuck and if he
has a great night, which he certainly did against Canada
he also did against Finland. If he does it again
against Canada, the US will be champions of the four
nations faceoff.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
There you go, as we transition away from the Joni
Mitchell approach, Jason takes to life of looking at life
and love through both sides.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
Now it's Jean Paul Morosi with us here Fox Sport.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Hears your Radio Cavino and Rich Jason and I in
Today at John Morosi where you find him on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Leave out the age because Mom said so, Hi Mom.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
MLB Network NHL Network a man uniquely qualified to tell
us all about and really sort out all of life's problems.
Why does everybody hate the Dodgers or is it debt
media fabrication.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
First of all, I'll try in terms of solving all
the issues. I'll work on that.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You're a smart man.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Come on, well, all I can report to you right
now exclusively is that the score of the Dodgers first
Cactus League game is Cubs nine, Dodgers three. Thus, the
Dodgers dynasty has been greatly exaggerated here there. They're looking
at one active league record.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
My goodness, booking best went out for one.
Speaker 2 (24:38):
I handled the season at this point in time. But
I say this, of course in ingest. It was encouraging
again for them to get Yamamoto. He started today, he
fished pretty well. There's a lot. There is a lot
of animosity in the game toward the Dodgers, There's no
question about it. And it's interesting that it's both within
the industry and for fans, just based on the fact
(25:01):
that they are spending at such a high level while
also developing players at a very strong rate. And when
we had on MLB Network this morning, we showed a
graphic of the Dodgers starting pitching options, and you could
argue that the Dodgers second starting five is as good
or better than almost any other rotation in the National League.
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That means the guys that are not even going to
begin to hear. Certainly injury is part of this on
some level. Otani's not quite ready to pitch yet. Kershaw
is not going to be ready on opening day either.
But at some point you're going to add two Hall
of famers to your rotation just because you can. And
you've already got Snell and Glass now and Yamamoto and Tasaki.
The depth is really something to behold. So is there jealousy,
(25:47):
is that envy? Whatever word you want to describe, I
think it all applies here. And yet, what I would
say to the entire industry, the Dodgers were down to
one in the division series of the Padres, there were
one loss away from this being a very different conversation
in a lot of different ways. So it maybe they're
not quite as inevitable as some would describe them as being.
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They are an exceptionally well run organization and the way
in which they have done things to an extent, the
way in which the Mets have done things have contributed
to what I think is a an accurate description of
of the industry as being the haves and have not.
There's just a large percentage of teams that do not
play realistically on the highest end of the players, and
(26:33):
I do think that is contributing to what is some
angst about the overall direction of the industry as we
move towards the next TV negotiation.
Speaker 3 (26:43):
John Paul Morosi with US. John Paul, I want to
talk about the second best team in New York for
a minute, the Yankees.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
So with what's going on it said, by the way,
for our daytime audience, Jason is a Mets fan. Just
wants to get that out there if you're tuning in
at a different time they normally do.
Speaker 5 (27:01):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (27:01):
He loves the method. Is therefore speaking about the Yankees.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
So for the Yankees here, I mean, I know that
it's early in spring training, but to get the news
two days ago that not only is John Carlos Stanton
not swinging a bat, he hasn't swung a bat in
a month, and he has two bad elbows. All of
a sudden, John Paul, I'm saying, I'm waiting for the
day where we find out, Hey, he's out a long time,
(27:26):
and then middle of the season it's a FATA complete.
He's gonna miss the year Like this is this kind
of reminds me of cesspitous with the bad heels the
beginning of spring training, guests who didn't play again, Like
this is not something where I think, Hey, little bit
of rest and Stan's gonna be ready for opening Day.
I really wonder how much he's even gonna play this year.
And the Yankees need him, especially with Yeah, they made
additions in the offseason to pivot away from Soto, but
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they need Stanton to be Stanton if they're gonna do
anything this year.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They do. And you know what would be really a
convenient and interesting storyline. What if what if the Red
Sox just traded them devs to be the DH that
that'd be pretty interesting. Would I say this in jest?
Of course, I'm really serious about that, because there's been
a bit of a bit of a controversy in Boston
about how how Devers and Bregman are fitting together.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
But we wouldn't know anywhere to be a DH. He
would he would, he would say notice because if they
say complete third base, he.
Speaker 6 (28:15):
Would say, yes, exactly well.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
And that's where perhaps the Yankees find a way to
rekindle things with with the Nolan Arnatto trade possibility, they
probably have to evaluate as well what they can expect
from DJ Lemahew this year, who missed so much time
last year. Let's not forget that the Yankees with Soto,
by the way, and you may have heard if you
if you're just joining us, they no longer have won Soto,
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but they they really needed John Carlos Stanton to get
through the Kansas City Royals and the Cleveland Guardians last
year in the playoffs. He was honestly, after Soto, their
most dangerous hitter and so in the playoffs, this is
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a significant issue for them. Now, does it promote some
thought of maybe they end up trading Stroman for a bat.
Stroman is out there. There's been a lot to talking
about what his role is going to be this year,
This whole situation with Stroman being available and uncertainty at
third base and now uncertainty with Stanton. While I'm excited
(29:24):
about the fact that they've got Goldschmidt and they've got Bellinger,
they've got Williams of the bullpen, They've made some good
moves even though they didn't have Soto. They have recovered nicely.
But this situation right now with Stanton is certainly concerning,
and it feels to me like there is going to
be at least a minor trade made by the Yankees
between now and opening day to address the situation, because
(29:47):
if you can't swing a bat on February twentieth, I'm
real concerned about how it's going to look on April twentieth,
July twentieth, and certainly October twentieth going forward.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
He's on Twitter at John Morosi. That is at John
MOROSEI check them out with us here at Fox Sports Radio,
MLBAM Network and tonight for the Four Nations Championship. John
Paul is always buddy appreciated. Man. We'll talk to you
down the road. We'll talk to you tonight.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
And it sounds great, my friend's biggest hockey game we
have seen in more than forty years, and we cannot
wait for the US and Canada enjoy everybody.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Thanks buddy. I mean, really to say it's this big
a deal, this game, I mean I didn't think it
was that hot a take, because yes, we've had big
games in the Olympics before in the World Cup of
Hockey with the United States and Canada, United States and
different Yeah, we've had that right, But this game, it's
in our window. It's in a week of sports where
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the NBA still is coming back from the All Star
break and you know, we finished major we finished the
NFL season, Baseball spring training is just starting. It's in
a great spot on the calendar. It's it's in the
East Coast window forest. We don't have to wake up
at three in the morning like I've done in the
past to watch a hockey game. It's I got to
wake up. It's three in the morning across the Grafway,
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across the globe, and the geopolitical aspects of it are
just you can't ignore them. You can't ignore what's been
going on with President Trump and Prime Minister Trudeau and
California and Canada and all of this. This is a
tremendous time for hockey, and they'll get a big springboard
coming off of this game, almost kind of like what
hockey got in nineteen eighty that they dined out on
(31:26):
for the next ten to twelve years before Gary Bettman's deciding, hey,
we're locking out now. We're running hockey all the way down,
so I expect that kind of bump from the NHL
from hockey coming off this game.
Speaker 4 (31:37):
Yeah, I mean, it just really quick. Number One, do
I have to stay in the studio? Are we We're
not abdicating the throne?
Speaker 3 (31:43):
Right?
Speaker 1 (31:43):
We get to cover this live on air?
Speaker 3 (31:45):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Sure, I can lock the door and keep the odd
couple out later. Second, I'm really.
Speaker 4 (31:51):
Disappointed that none of the news aggregators grabbed our trade
proposal and ran with it like it was a real
news story.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:59):
I mean, I think that'd be great. Like if the
United States wins, we get Canada. If Canada wins, they
get California. All right? With that, I'm.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
Really hoping to be interviewed all across the globe.
Speaker 3 (32:09):
Yeah, they could get they could get the whole. I mean,
if we got to add in, you know, Washington and
Oregon to make it the whole West coast. Okay, you know,
it's got to look nice on a map, So if
we wanted to, I understand if we had to do that,
but what why not make it go? H Time to
find out what's trending right now the wide world of
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for the.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
Breaking news this hour is that Dallas Cowboys guard Zach
Martin is announcing his retirement. Martin spent eleven years in
the National Football League, seven time first Team All Pro,
two times second team All Pro, went to nine Pro Bowls,
and in fact, Martin started one hundred and sixty two
games in his career, started every game that he played.
Didn't play in every game of his eleven years, but
(32:47):
in those that he played and started, everyone had just
seven holding penalties throughout those one hundred and sixty two games.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Zach Martin hanging him up today.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Spurs star Victor webin ya'mos going to miss the rest
of the season because of a blood clot in his shoulders.
Spur said wemby as deep vein thrombosis in his right shoulder,
as he'd experienced symptoms lately, said that he had hoped
to be all right after the All Star break. That
was not the case, and now Victor Wembinyama is done
for the year. Bucks forward Bobby portis suspended twenty five
(33:18):
games for testing positive for a bandit substance. Mavericks forward
Anthony Davis is progressing from his adductor injury. However, he'll
be re evaluated in two weeks. Lakers guard Luka Doncic
out to night against Portland, while Lebron James is questionable.
Yankees a given manager Aaron Booner an extension through twenty
twenty seven. An update from John Morosi giving the Cubs
(33:39):
Dodgers score. It's not twelve three Cubs on top of
the Dodgers and the replay. Bobby Miller did have to
leave the game the Dodgers pitcher struck in the forehead
by a line drive off the bat of the Cubs
Michael Bush that was going one hundred and five miles
per hour, But again, Miller was able to walk off
on his own power. Finally, guys, Texas and USCF decided
to not hold spring games this year.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Back to you, thanks a bunch, Dan, appreciate it. That's
an incredible stat from Zach Martin. In his entire career,
he's made All Pro nine more times than he committed
holding penalties, seven more All Pro selections than holding penalties.
Now that's ally Hello Canton, Zach Martin, we walk right in.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Can they figure out a way to make him hold
out too? Because we try to keep the cowboys out
on our show.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
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get off the air. So last night was the real
official beginning, I guess you could say of the second half,
not kind of second last third of the NBA season
where the Lakers fell to the Hornets and an incredibly
embarrassing loss for the Lakers. They've now lost their last
two games of two teams with a combined record of
(36:42):
twenty seven and eighty and Luka Doncic looks like he's
going through all the reasons why the Evericks traded him,
still having trouble. He looks like he's playing at three
quarter speed. Mike. That's the best thing, the best way
I can describe. I'm not saying he's not playing hard,
but I don't know what he's capable of, how much
(37:03):
he's capable of playing. But he's moving a lot slower
than even Luca normally is, because Luca's game is about deception,
about angles, about leverage, but he's just no, he doesn't
have a lot of separation. The Hornets allowed him to
take any three pointer he wanted last night. The Lakers
went to Lebron at the end of the game for
the last shot because you couldn't go to Luca because
(37:23):
you couldn't hit anything like I'm confident that the Lakers'
offense is going to look just like an absolute monster
at some point, but it's going to take a while
because Luca just doesn't look the same and for all
of the reasons. Now I think people are finally coming
around to something we talked about when the trade happened.
The Mavericks didn't just wake up one morning and Nico
(37:44):
Harrison said I want to trade Luka Doncic and he
did it before they talked to anybody like. This is
something that went on for a long time, and they
have their reasons. They didn't want to commit a lot
of money to him. They didn't think he'd ever get
in shape, they thought his body would break down, he
wouldn't listen to them when they talked about staying in
shaper however, they felt about, you know, his beer drinking.
(38:04):
There was a reason why they traded him, and you
can agree or disagree with it, but it's not like
they just decided to do something willy nilly. There's a
reason why they traded him, and you're sort of seeing now, Oh,
I get why they moved on from Luca. Now I
understand what's happening. So they've gone through getting all the
arrows in the beginning, going oh, look what you guys
are doing. Oh, now I kind of get it a
(38:25):
little bit why they traded Luca.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Yeah, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
The best part of that analysis you had me at
Willy Nilly, but it all comes I like.
Speaker 3 (38:34):
Saying, Willy Nilly's fun.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Well, but with all of these kind of moves, right,
whenever you move on, it's like relationships of the people
that you know, Oh, I'm sorry to hear they broke up.
You don't know all everything that's It's like you know
the old what Roosevelt, right, the man in the arena
kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (38:51):
You don't know the cost Paige.
Speaker 4 (38:52):
You don't know what the conversations, what the circumstances are.
In every respect, I think Dallas is convincing me that
bit bit they're gonna leak out everything they can. It's
like Andy Dufrayne at Shawshank with the rocks. Bit by bit,
we're gonna get it all, and we're gonna dig that
a hole and we're gonna crawl through however, many hundreds
(39:12):
of yards of blanke and we're there.
Speaker 1 (39:14):
But all of that to say, yeah, it was he
was slow, right a couple of times.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
The explosiveness that you're used to of him getting to
the rims like, wow, he got met by two guys. Right,
It's like we were watching the gin. The other night
the USC UCLA game, right when Bets would get the
ball down low and all of a sudden, here comes
Juju Watkins from the backside part of her eight blocks.
Like Bets normally gets turned and gets that shot right up,
(39:39):
but not that night. Here you're looking at, you know,
Luca trying to get the timing and also learning how
to work without the ball. He looked confused and lost
in some of those possessions, like down the stretch, I
was waiting from them. If he had pockets, his hands
would have been in the pockets as the ball went
and Scott swung to Lebron because he had no role
in that final play.
Speaker 3 (40:00):
Yeah, I mean it's I don't I don't want to
say that there. I don't think that Luca's ever going
to get back to being Luca. But it was never
gonna happen with the Mavericks. And that's what I think
people are missing, is that, well, you find a way
to hold on, we find a way to make it work.
You think for six years it didn't try to find
a way to make it work. Really, you think for
six years again, they didn't just wake up and decide, hey,
we want to trade him, whatever Lucas accomplishing with the Lakers,
(40:24):
whatever he winds up, because now he's been put on
notice he's gotten traded. That the whole conditioning and being
in shape is front burner topic with him now. It's
all anybody's going to talk about if he can't stay
in the lineup or camp. And he's already not playing
again tonight, not playing in the second to back to back.
So you again reasons why the Mavericks traded him. Whatever
he does, he simply wasn't going to do in Dallas.
(40:45):
That relationship had run its course because you were coming
up on a make or break situation, which is, do
you want to give him three hundred and thirty million
dollars at the end of this season the extension he's
eligible for. Maybe he doesn't want to take it, So yeah,
you want to move on and try to get somebody,
And you got an All NBA player in Anthony Davis,
albeit he has his own injury concerns, but still you
(41:07):
got the best player you were gonna get in this trade.
And understand that, no matter how you want to slice it,
just because people don't like the trade, wanted to make
it work. Doesn't mean it was gonna work.
Speaker 5 (41:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (41:17):
It's like when you hear two people talk about breaking
up and you go, oh my god, but you guys
did so well together. You guys played off each other
so much, you guys love each other. Yeah, well it
didn't work. Well, I can't understand why you're getting divorced.
You're not in our marriage for the last six or
seven years. Understand, Sometimes things come up that you can't
get path you from the outside. Just because you wanted
to stay doesn't mean it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4 (41:40):
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, right, you're trying to
break that down and in the end you're hoping to
get the best out of him in this next iteration.
Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. But you know, I'm
always for taking a big swing, bring the best player in,
and if it doesn't work out, you can at least say, hey,
at least you tried. You get a cake, like Bart
Simmson gave a homer.
Speaker 3 (42:00):
Well, yeah, I mean, anytime you add a cake at
the end, it always makes it easier. Like I could
swallow this a little about beat if you give me cakeing.
Speaker 1 (42:05):
Oh always right, here's some bad news.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
Have some cake. Yeah,
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