February 20, 2025 • 42 mins
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Now, we have that big NBA story coming up at
a second, But you've heard a couple of times tonight
in the show, the breaking news from Dan Byer Zach Martin,
Cowboys All World offensive lineman retiring at the age of
thirty five four. There are many things you can say
about him, and he has been an absolute stalwart of
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the offensive line his entire career. Nine time Pro Bowl guard,
nine time All Pro. But man, I don't know I
don't know there's anything more impressive than he's been All
Pro nine times, and this from a couple of different
aggregators NFL aggregators. He's been All Pro nine times and
he's committed seven holding penalties in his career. In his career,
(01:28):
so this is less than one holding penalty a year
over a sixteen to seventeen game season. I mean, that's
just I don't know what, I don't know there's anything
more impressive than that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, I think it means that he had teammates that
were less effective and technique a little sloppier so they
would get the call instead of him.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, we can't look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We we gotta look at this guy.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Or the referees were just enamored with the star.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ooh man, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Like the Yankees and the uniforms. You'd already lost step
down the veil.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean, he's he's going to be a first ballot
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He's a member, he's a member of the twenty tens
All Decade team. Like this is as close to a
slam unless the guy that didn't vote for eachiro gets
to vote in this.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And uh, you know there's somebody that could happen.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Man, you get in that room, I mean, someone just
decides to be contrarian.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We've seen some crazy stuff on the MLB side, certainly
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but yeah, this guy
walks into the hall and and now it's another huge
gaping hole.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Not that you didn't have to already start.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Thinking about succession plans and and what your offensive line
was going to look like, but you got so many
other concerns in Dallas, and now it's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like, wow, we don't even get him back.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, even if he's a diminished form of himself at
eighty percent, he's still better, but coming off a big injury,
and you know, at some point you just say it
doesn't fire the same way anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, And if you're if you're Dak Prescott, you go,
oh wow, I'm gonna really earn this money even more
this year.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But you've seen all the mock drafts, right, you got
Michael Parsons talking a bunch, you know, about his podcasts
and why people may or may not like him, and
that's all finding good, but they've got to figure out
whether they're paying him. We've already paid CD and Dak
we've seen mock drafts like, oh, they'll go and get
a running Back's like, you need a running back, but do.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You really need one? I know? Lineman?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Lineman, lineman, what do we learn? What do you learn
from the teams in your division? Go find lineman and
keep dak up upright and give him an opportunity downfield. Oh,
we'll have more in the story coming up in about
fifteen minutes because, uh, quite honestly, this again is more
about everybody's favorite topic, which is jumping up and down
to the Dallas County. That's right, not achieving, but we
(03:42):
get to kick off the second half of the NBA
seasons that are really the last third of the NBA season.
Last night Lakers lost to the Hornets and probably the
most embarrassing loss they've had all year. But there's one
reason why I am more excited about the second half
of the season than I even was a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, you're fired up.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
There are no games of played now? Everybody? The Knicks
are fine? Everything, what's wrong? What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They still have a six man rotation?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Come on, every we're coming back, that we're getting healthy.
Everything is open doesn't matter, you, six guys, It doesn't.
We're okay until we're not. Then I'll worry, And then
I'll worry, well until we get to the playoffs. And
as soon as they put the banners up to say, hey,
welcome to the playoffs, then I'll worry. No, I get it, Hey,
it doesn't matter the off season. It's not about being
(04:32):
able to walk in the off season. It's about being
able to play during the season. Okay, you can sit
and not walk in the off season. But I'm so
glad for the rest of the NBA to get going
because now we don't have to hear about the stupidest
thing in the world, and that's that the NBA is
in trouble and might fold because they had a bad
all start.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You mean that that seventy six billion dollars in checks,
whatever poors you was supposed to show up, did it
not arrived? Did that wire get screwed up?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
This is just incredibly infuriating.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And there's no better way to dive into this by
then than than talking about the conversation you and I
had with Rick Buker Fox Sports one NBA Insider last night,
in which we brought up what sport. Do you ever
talk about the health of a sport that is defined
by its All Star game? None? All all Star games stink,
We don't. We don't define. The NFL is defined by
(05:26):
the Pro Bowl. There's not even a game anymore. We're defined. No,
we're not. But maybe because it was a slow news week,
Maybe because there's a lot of lazy people out there
that Oh, I'm just mad that the NBA All Star
Game is an affront on me, like they did it
to me personally. The All Star games are bad now,
they're just not good anymore because we've we've just passed
by the era of the All Star game being special.
We have to find the new normal, which is, hey,
(05:49):
let's find out what works. Let's keep throwing stuff up
against the wall. Eventually we'll find something that that everybody likes,
and we'll keep doing that format. The NBA All Star
Game has been bad for fIF teen years now, but
now suddenly the players hate it. Draymond Green is getting
upset when when clearly they don't care about playing and
every game is one eighty four to one eighty, Like
I don't get the hole over the top hatred of
(06:12):
the game, where like this came out of nowhere. It's
an All Star game, it's played on Sunday. We forget
about it one minute following the game on Sunday or
whatever mini games they have on Sunday night. Yeah, I
get that it wasn't the player's favorite, but now it's
the players hated it. The future of the All Star
Game is in doubt. Adam Silver is a bad commissioner.
NBA ratings aren't as high as they used to be.
(06:34):
None of these, none, none of these have to do
with the All Star Game being bad. It's just the
All Star Game was bad. It happens, and now we're
back onto the games where I think people are gonna watch.
I think people are gonna be into the second half
of the NBA season. They want to see how good
Luca is ad all the big trades that were made.
I'm pretty sure we're gonna be able to say goodbye
to the storyline, which is again why I'm most excited
(06:56):
that all the games are gonna go on tonight, because
now this whole NBA All Star Game is terrible can
go back.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
To where it was.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's a garbage topic and it's just something that's brought
up because you've had a lot of lazy hosts on
television radio. I want to say how bad it is,
because yeah, nobody seems to like it. So yeah, it's awful.
It's irrelevant. The All Star Game is irrelevant. That's the
real takeaway of it. Now we're back to the games
that matter.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I mean, you talk about the the NHL All Star Game,
which we're in the middle of. So yeah, new format.
I have some enthusiasm fired up Nation on Nation Great.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What are the ratings? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They got a four point four the other day. By
way of comparison, the Flag Football Game and this year's
NBA All Star Game four point seven million each.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So the UA Spike, I know you bet on the
Flag Football Game.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Wait, well, I mean I was also betting on you know,
which guy was going to be able to hit the
forty and fifty points you know, yard throws in the
skills competition too, as they were being heckled or they
had to answer trivia questions about teammates before they started, right,
that gave them extra time all that stuff. To say,
(08:09):
I'm a big nerd when it comes to this stuff,
and I'll watch the T shirt and underwear Olympics next
next week, and I'll have bets on guys forty times.
All of that to say for the NBA, Yeah, it
was it the best, look, Draymond, you know, agent provocateur.
I think that's the term that Silver used on him.
And look, Adam Silver, you may not like him, depending
on where you stand in the game. His allegiance and
(08:35):
as a player's commissioner you like that, even though he
works for the owners everybody, trying to please everybody along
the way, you can not like it. But business wise,
he'sign a seventy six billion dollar deal because everybody wants
in on live programming. Right when you talk about all
these streaming services and everything else coming to the table,
the violins playing behind Chuck and Kenny and Shaq and
(08:56):
Ernie Johnson and everything. Oh no, whatever, you didn't. You
didn't save Earth. You're not the Avengers either. But all
of that, you know, Draymond, it's the sanctity of the
game is ruined by the rising stars being here on Sunday.
They got clicks, They got people to care, right, so
you know that's good. People still care about the event.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But in the end, if.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You're expecting wall to wall forty eight minutes slapping the
floor like your old duke role players.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It ain't happening, wojoe hey walking through that door.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, so you take it for what it is, and
like Kevin Durant always reminds us, you don't like it,
don't watch now. Look now, I'm about positivity. I'm about
That's why I brought up the four point seven viewers.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They actually caught the NFL in something.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
No, but we're gonna hang a banner on that somewhere.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Look, this is the best part of why I can
say going forward because the All Star Game now we're
in the stunt casting era of All Stars games, where
it's what can you do to get people to watch
or to stop people from not watching the most right.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
That's really what it is. We all get it.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
We just want to get the people who normally watch
to keep watching and not lose as many viewers. And
it's the same philosophy of a bar that says, hey,
we need more business. So on Thursday night it's gonna
be Ladies' Night. Friday night, we're gonna have an early
happy hour that starts at noon. Monday nights is gonna
be fifty cent Wing Night during Monday night football Tuesday,
(10:29):
and Okay, we're finding a way to get people in.
But they're coming in because they have the newness of hey.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
We're trying this.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
If they don't like the wings, if they don't like
the crowd, they're not going to come back. But so
the NBA is still trying to find a way to
stunt cast, to find something that hey, this is great,
we can do. Hey, if we do fifty cent Wing
Night every night, that works for us. Right, maybe maybe
early Happy Hour doesn't work on Friday, but this works.
And the evidence is right in front of you because
(10:57):
look what the NHL has done. They've been going through
the same issues with the NBA and the NFL as
far as how to make their All Star Game relevant.
No one cares. It's we're breaking up the teams. Now,
we're doing all different things. We're stunt casting every single year.
And now they hit on it. They hit on this
Four Nations tournament, which has replaced the All Star Game
for this year. And look how what's become the biggest
event of the week, you know, outside of the Super Bowl,
(11:19):
might be the biggest event of the first three months
of the year calendar wise going into the NCAA tournament, Like,
everybody cares about this, whether they're hockey fans or not.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
This has become a thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yes, part of it is the political aspect of it
makes it even more interesting, which bled into what we
saw in that you know, they're bled in, bled into
what we saw on the ice with three fights in
the first nine seconds, United States and Canada. It's the
biggest hockey game since nineteen eighty, Right, you want to
go back to miracle Lize. That's how big this is.
And the NHL has found that, Okay, this works. I
(11:49):
would cancel the All Star Game every year, play this
every year. You can still name people to all. They
could still become all day. We're naming the all Star teams. Right,
you make it all. Doesn't mean you're playing in the
four Nations or five Nations or six nations tournament, but yeah,
you're name to it all start team, and we're gonna
play this and eventually the tournament in the next couple
of years will probably grow. Russia megan in at some
(12:11):
point because they're not playing here with the sanctions on
them because of the war with Ukraine. Germany was close
to getting in. They didn't have enough players. We'll get
to a six nation, seven nation tournament. Will be like
a mini Olympics. It'll be a ton of fun. And
they've also figured out the mid season tournament thing, which
you know Adam Silver loves. How do we make this great?
Like he's obsessed with tournaments and mid season tournaments and everything.
(12:32):
This is what's gonna work. Well, Hey, the NHL figured
it out. So okay, if you are the NBA, do
USA versus the World next year. It seems to be
what the players like. It seems to be what is
gonna generate the least amount of complaining from players from fans.
So if you're giving me the least amount of complaining, hey,
(12:53):
go with that for a year and maybe you hit
on something and it works, right. It just it just
goes to show you that keep trying, keep throwing stuff
up against the wall, keep going trial and error, and
eventually you will hit on something that works. So, yeah,
I just solved the issue for the NBA. Next year,
go to USA versus the World. It'll be absolutely fine.
And then if that doesn't hit, then you worry about
twenty twenty seven. But you know what, hey, that could
(13:14):
be somebody else's job because I got you through next year.
So it works.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
The only problem is that sports media and radio television
thrives and negativity and red ink. If you actually solved this,
when are you gonna say, hey, it was pretty good.
You just killed it in the entire industry.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, sure, yeah I did. Yeah, yeah, but that's okay.
I mean, I'm solving problems. I can only do so much, Mike.
It's a you know, somebody else has to come up
and do something at something. I can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Can't somebody else do it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I mean, if I'm a starting pitcher and I go
seven innings and I throw out oh no pitches and
you know, eight to you know, sixteen strikeouts and I
leave with a two nothing lead, I need the bullpen
to come in and do the final two innings.
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to the football story in a minute, But I really
I feel the need. I mean, this is something that
just cuts through the clutter here in the middle of
the day on a Thursday. Uh, I get certain things
how they're popular on the internet when certain things are
thrown out there. But something with over five million views
(16:25):
already on on x is someone who just threw out
a random topic saying if all of the presidents were
in a WWE royal rumble, who would win?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, I mean President Trump's already a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well, well, I'm wondering why, well this but this is
I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
He's he's not as a wrestler though, this is like
who is wrestling and who would who would?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Period?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Right, Well, he's getting all the big.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Push because yeah, tell you, but like Apri continue to
give speech you after getting shot.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, but that's great.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But Lincoln was six ' four like he would like
Teddy Roosevelt was what like five to one, like you
could be tough. But man, being six four, especially back then,
that's really well, that's like being sets like being Wemby Now. Yeah,
but once you get inside him, he's done.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, but can you get inside Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
He's got the hat. He could just take the hat
and just hit.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You with it.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Well, and all of the different accoutrements. Yeah, yeah, definitely,
you could use the coat. I mean, it could kind
of glam that up a little bit, sparkly, long black coat.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He's got a good look.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I mean it's been often imitated, never duplicated in w
w ee lore. You know, the no mustache beard look.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, I mean I think the beard would be a
good look, though, I certainly plays.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I'm trying to think of who else could uh be
part of part of the action. I mean, would be
a manager?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, No Kennedy because he played football on the lawn r.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
The back is taking him out though.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, but how much would you need him for? I mean,
I don't know if I need him for these other guys.
Everybody else is very old.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Iowa, Sam's very very correct. Gerald Ford could get after it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Gerald Ford, the guy was president for a year and
a half, could be the winner.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Hey you know what.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, he didn't age nearly as badly as the other
guys doing their four eight years in the office.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh, don't forget about w guys. Yeah, okay, the greatest
first pitch ever.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute now, because w
and his dad would have some kind of alliance. Don't
forget about that. They would work together all the way
till the end, and then they would both hold each
other's hands up that they won, and then w would
hit his dad in the stomach and go oh, I
can't believe that's happened. Look at this like but they
would all the way to the end and they would
(18:43):
hold each other's hands up. They would fight together, so
they're the only ones to be. They would have some
kind of coalition and alliance. They would do it together.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, original George Bush. He was a ballplayer, right, he's
a baseball player, So you got your going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Fire and baseball's at why not.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Just Sam also gives us the inclusion of Ulyss. He says,
Grant it's supposed to be a pretty salty dog, so
he can get after it. It was a general the
guy won the civil match that I made was available.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I think you have.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The thing is you have lots of leaders. I don't
I don't you know. I don't know how many. I
don't know how many athletes you have that can win.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Who are we tagging in?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know what would They would all have different
outfits to wear to be led to the ring. You know,
it would be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, I think this really works.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, No, I think that's a really I think that's
a really good man.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
President Obama, I mean, play some hoops, but generally he's
going to be the speaker, so we'll probably have him,
you know on the call with McAfee and Cole.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, I mean John Adams was really short, like he
was only like five too. He wouldn't you know, he
wouldn't be able to do it. I mean Washington, Washington out.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean, look, there's genres of wrestling that we get
into when you start talking about adding the really short presidents.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, well, I mean that's why that's why Lincoln is
such a big deal because being six four, like being
six ' four in an event like this where I
think the tallest president was probably five to six for
most of the time, like he's gonna be he's gonna
look like Andre the Giant in the ring, especially with
the top hack.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, but it'd be just clearing house. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
The body weigh in it though, And did he have
the poe? I mean it was he just country strong.
Is that what we're talking about here? Iowa Sam wants
to tag in.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I just want to mention guys that if we're talking
about like big bodies, William Howard's Haft.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It was our largest president at three hundred and thirty
two pounds.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So we get a little Bundy abduel of the Butcher
kind of thing going on. He gotta have a pressure
black body, right, I have just grabbed everybody from every
region of the eighties right there.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But I mean just think about yeah, Lincoln, that would
be a thing like did he go like we be
six four, like one sixty five?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Like that would be tough. That'd be very difficult.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I need, you don't know, I need to do a
deeper dive on the personalities though here, Jason, Like when
we start talking about trying to compare him to other
rest because like if Taft has a big personality, is
he is he a little bit like Dusty Rhodes?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, so he comes.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Out of a dream shake kind of going down.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Well, I don't think this is about who's great on
the microphone.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean Dusty Rhoads in
the ring. I mean he's a big body, man.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I think I think every president would be good on
the mic I mean, come on, no, no, no, that
is categorically not true. Have you not watched anything I've
come on now I've seen I think they talk. They
know how to talk. They can, they can, they can
speak in circles. And man, I don't want to go
off political here, but you know, a dude here, you
get people. If they say anything, it doesn't matter, it
(21:38):
doesn't matter. I mean you get there.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I mean you get everybody else is gonna say something.
And then Lincoln's gonna say, you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Know, four score's okay, that wins? Fine, all right, great,
Getty's burger dress, lasagna? Is that steak?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm taking Garfield?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Well, plain, I was gonna say that. I would say
it plays a quote from Dwayne Johnson The Rock. He's
getting care ad in a Scorsese movie. Now he's all serious. Wow,
so we may not get the final boss back. I'm
a little salty about that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh exit, how about a Fresca exit, swollen dome? Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, liventhtirac dot com Studios. We'll get back into
that big NFL topic coming up in ninety seconds, but
first Dan Byer's got what's trending in the wide world
of sports dB big news out of Texas.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
We'll start in the NFL where Cowboys guard Zach Martin's
calling it quits after eleven seasons, all with Dallas seven
first team All Pro selections, adding two other second team
All Pro selections. Martin's next stop, at thirty four years sold,
its likely the Hall of Fame in five years. Big
news out of the NBA also in Texas is Spurs
center Victor weban Yama will miss the rest of the
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season because of a blood clot in his shoulder. Mavericks
forward Anthony Davis continues to improve from his adductor strain.
He'll be reevaluated in two weeks. Lakers won't to have
Luka Dancic tonight against Portland. Lebron James is considered questionable.
Milwaukee Bucks forward Bobby Portis has spended twenty five games
for testing positive for a band substance, while the agent
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for Hornet center Mark Williams says multiple doctors believe Williams
should have passed as physical with the Lakers in the
deal that has since been rescinded because of the Lakers results.
College football note, Texas and USC won't be holding spring
games in twenty twenty five. Yankees gave manager Aaron Boone
to your extension through twenty twenty seven Cactus League play
opening today with the Dodgers and Cubs. Dodgers pitcher Bobby
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Miller able to walk off on his own power after
he was hitting the head with a one hundred and
five mile Prower line drive off the bat of the Cubs.
Michael Busch and The Athletic is reporting Major League Baseball
and ESPN have mutually agreed to opt out of their
TV deal following the twenty twenty five season. There were
three years left on it. In Golf, Golf Channel reported
earlier today a deal between the PGA Tour and the
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Saudi Public Investment Fund, which runs live golf, could be
struck by the end of the day, following meetings at
the White House that included President Trump and Tiger Woods guys.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Back to you things a bunch, dB appreciate it, man,
all right? So you heard Dan Byer there, Zach Martin
calling it quits. Look first ballot, Hall of Famer nine,
all Pro selections seven holding penalties' entire career. Why does
this signal you know about the Cowboys where you can
jump up and down and go look at their failures.
The Cowboys have had a long live just in the
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last fifteen years, the number of players they have had
who have been All Pro, numerous Pro Bowls at different positions,
and they still can't get to an NFC title game,
much less a Super Bowl. Whether you're talking about Martin
or Tryon Smith or Dez Bryant. I mean, they have
had tons of talent that's either homegrown or gotten in
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free agency, that have spent a long time in parts
of their careers with the Cowboys, and they just can't win.
This is tons of talent. I'm not saying, hey, they've
had good players, like every team gets good players, but
these are some guys who, hey, man, I don't know
that they have better players at their position anywhere in
the NFL. And still they wind up falling short, and
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they wind up not being able to win big enough,
and they throw up on themselves in the playoffs and
they can't move on in the postseason past the first game.
They play like it's I mean, yes, celebrate the end
of Zach Ward's career, but understand the boy. He's just
the latest Cowboy to have an incredible career and be great,
and the Cowboys really not turning that into anything over
the last fifteen Hey.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
What did you do.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, we talked all this, and now you literally took
the boot to the candy asses of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I mean you just absolutely buried them again. They haven't
even recovered from the Eagles winning the Super Bowl. And
now you add this. It's like, hey, by the way,
you had all these greats and you failed. Dak Prescott,
great pick good, you didn't maximize it. Here's the team
that was really good. Ah, you went and got worked
and made Jordan Love a legend and a lot of money.
(25:56):
All of this stuff, all of this to say, yeah,
I mean you've you've seen some really great talent, but
you've never had full rosters.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Usually it's been one side of the ball is good
to great and the other mediocre. Even this year, you
had a guy that I was arguing as an MVP
candidate if the Cowboys had actually won a couple of
games in Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
For his early season heroics.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah that's right, kickers, But all of that for Jerry Jones,
for Steven Jones, for the brain trust, whoever else gets
into the room where it happens. See, now we're just
going full political by bringing Hamilton in that we talk
about the Cowboys, and opportunities missed building around this because
we've seen teams even in current NFL situations.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You know, look at San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You had Williams and a bunch of guys who were
okay to slightly above average, and they dominated as a
line other offensive lines Baltimore, Ronnie Stanley's healthy, and we
see what that becomes in terms of being able to
run the ball as effectively as they did. For Dallas,
You've got Martin and you haven't been able to parlay
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that into great success. You haven't been able to elevate
the rest of these guys along the way.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Obviously we had Travis Frederick for a few years and
then he had to retire from illness, So you missed
having that the center become that focal point for those years.
But yeah, now it's the next iteration of how do
you get out of where you are? Because you've already
paid a couple go to that Joe Burrow model of hey,
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how do we figure out how to pay everybody? They
got to look into vision and figure it out, or
ask someone who was a plant for the Rams. Go
find a low level guy that had access to the
copy machine and hire him.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Hey, you know how to make copies?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah? Right, Hey, I have a job offer for you.
You're not gonna bull It's gonna be well.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, look, you're telling me they didn't look at
what they were copying. You probably learned something along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
How are they doing this? I'll tell you. Look for
the Cowboys, it's they're doomed to this, right, The Cowboys
are doomed to this reality of every year you think
they're going to be better, you think they have some
kind of hope, and then it's the same thing. They're
never out and out terrible, they're never out and out awful,
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but they never reach the heights they should be. And yes,
are Cowboy fans a little bit outlandish with their expectations, Yeah,
because the era of the Cowboys being dumb and has
come and gone. Yeah. Now it's thirty years between Super Bowls.
We gotta understand it's a new world order right now.
You had the Patriots dynasty for twenty years. Now, you
had the Chiefs dynasty the last few years. Things have changed, right,
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and you're not gonna suddenly get back to being the
Cowboys of the seventies and the eighties. That era is gone.
But still you're America's team, the most popular team in
the country. You should be able to pack up all
kinds of talent and win just by trotting guys out
on the field. You should be able to be a
yearly deep in the in the playoffs, threat to go
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you know, decently far. And instead you're not because you
can't get out of your own way. And yes, you
can blame Jerry Jones for a lot of things, one
hundred percent, I get it. And look at what he's
doing now with Brian Schottenheimer, who knows that this is
even gonna work. And I'm sure he fired Mike McCarthy
because McCarthy was probably more respected that he wanted him
to have with the players, and the players liked him
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more than they than Jerry Jones would want them to
like their head coach because he's got to be the voice.
So it's just they just keep they just keep getting
in their own way, either on the field with an
injury to Dak Prescott off the field, with Jerry Jones
doing his thing. And I feel like this is a
conversation now we've had for for a long time to
understand that This is just who they are, right, this,
this this romanticizing of the Cowboys and thinking they're coming back. No,
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this is kind of who they are. They're popular. It's fun, right,
it's fun to it's fun to make fun of. They'll
win some games, but this is not gonna be a dine.
It's never gonna be a dine. He's never gonna get
back to where they were. This has been the norm
for the Cowboys for a long time. We just have
to get used to it now. And there's still so
much hangover. It's like the people, it's still you know,
(30:08):
Tyson's sixty years old. I can't wait till gets back
and wins the world championship again. Not happening, right, not
happening for time. Wasn't happening in the nineties. Was it
happening in early two thousand when Tyson starts winning again? No,
like those days are gone and the Cowboys are really popular,
but when it comes to it, they really don't move
the needle on the field. And this is this is
who they are. They are a team that every year
gives you a little bit of hope, but they won't
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get all the way to where you think they're gonna
get because they're simply not good enough. They have great
players all the way through, but they find a way
to fritter it away. They don't have the deep enough
roster you need to get far enough in the playoffs.
This is just kind of who they are. You can
point to reasons, but to all of a sudden think, hey, Cowboys,
dealers will be back, be the salad days of the
NFL again. Those days are gone.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I mean they did bring back Matt Eberflus, so that
short gets well.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I mean they get the defense right, yeah, because what
was the thing in common line your team and my
team last year? They stunk, Yeah, but their defenses were
pretty good until they fired their head coach and all
what the hell all that to say? And then Schottenneimer
comes in as the first time they coach. Look for
the Cowboys, it's the lean into the branding, right. You
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got lots of money in Dallas that can be had
in terms of sponsorship deals, partnerships, whatever not that you
can promise that as an owner. But you know, hey,
you happen to walk into a restaurant, Hey, look who's here?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This guy? You know what he owns?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, he needs a guy for commercials. You guys should
talk all of those like, oh, by the way, tax savings,
big deal. Go back to that Joe Burrow comment of hey,
what the Eagles do, and we always talk about what
the Rams do and how smart they've been.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
In terms of cat management. You got to go figure
out what the leaders are doing and copy them. Right,
it's a copycat.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
League on the field. You really need to learn as
a front office guy. You're not the smartest guy in
the room all the time.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
You were when you bought the Cowboys as a quasi
distress property back in the day.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That's a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, it is a long time and all of that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's thirty years.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Right, that went right. You had a ridiculous run. We
joked about it, and I only have joking. It's like,
does Jimmy Johnson want to coach again?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Hire him? I don't want to lose him at Fox.
I love Jimmy Johnson, but hire him. Let him be
the guy that runs things. If other people run practices, whatever,
that's fine. But you need that guy in the room
to tell you when you're being an idiot and when
you're going down a bad path, to help you in
the talent evaluation, because clearly the brain trust you've assembled
(32:37):
has not done it properly.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
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and Rich As. We are about an hour and fifteen
minutes away from the biggest sporting event of the week,
the biggest hockey game since nineteen eighty as we get
the Four Nations Championship between Canada and the United States. Look,
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it is some kind of event. People that have never
watched a hockey game before. We're gonna watch night and
go Okay, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
What is it all about?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Is Trump?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
There?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Is Trudeau there? What's going on? If Canada wins, do
they get California? If we win, do we get Canada?
What are the stakes of this game?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
I want to know?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
This is how big a game this is?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Mike Carbon, Can we draw those out in scenarios? Like
can do a whole simulation process?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
As to what would then occur in the world, and
like where's the movie? How quickly can we get this
green light? And who would star?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
In terms of all right, this was the result of
a hockey game and here's the world three years later.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh yeah, that'd be awesome, right, like like Canada scores
a goal early and like Trudeau is cutting Canada, cutting,
cutting California off of the map and like pasting it
up like right under Alaska.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh that would be mean, like it's a mustache.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Meanwhile, Trump is is is you know the United States scores?
Trump is coloring in Canada to be a state, to
be a state?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Is here?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It is?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
So weah Ran Like that's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I mean it's you can't ignore the geopolitical aspect of
this game and how big. And that's why I say
it's the biggest game we've seen in hockey since the
Miracle on Ice because of how it's at a perfect
spot on the sports calendar this week, coming off of
of the the really bad NBA All Star Game. We
haven't had a ton of games yet. You obviously college
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basketball has been going on, but to NFL Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
The game is on in our window. It's not an
Olympic game.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We have to wake up at two in the morning
to watch because it's halfway across the globe. It is
a you know it, it sticks out and no other
game has had the political backdrop of this.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Trump said he can't be at the game tonight because
he has a speech to give, but he said he
talked to the team. They're ready to go, and yeah,
maybe Canada will be our fifty first state soon. Like
he's you know, he's twisted the knife on this game.
But this is an incredible moment for hockey and they
need to capitalize on this just like they did in
nineteen eighty off the Miracle on Ice and and say, okay,
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now the next few years we're gonna be able to
feel the impact of this going forward and hockey can
get a little bit bigger piece of the pie than
it's had for the past twenty years or so.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
GM Bill Garon told Michael Russo that President Trump called
Team USA earlier this morning, spoke to the entire team
for quote, quite a while before their morning skate, like what's.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Quite a while? Like a half hour? Is at like
four minutes? Like I don't know what, Like, what's quite
a while.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
When asked to elaborate, Garren just said, quote, he just
wanted to wish us luck.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I want to know what the hell else was said?
Now I want the full audio.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Wait, I've said that for about politicians and politics for
my whole adult life, So maybe that's asking too much,
but yeah, no, it's crazy, right.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I mean, you've just got this backdrop to it.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
And going off of the game we were witnessed on
Saturday that cut through everything. Right, It's All Star Saturday Night,
and yeah, you had the usual lam lamentations about the
players in the NBA that weren't participating in the dunk contest.
We're talking about Mac McClung jumping over cars and and
everything else he could do. Stefan Castle with a great effort,
(37:47):
a three point shootout, and how nobody could hit the
broadside of a barn for a good chunk of it. No,
I cut through because we got three fights and nine seconds.
Where do you go to we go lowest common denominator
violence cuts through social media?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
No second.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, we're not getting through the reverberations.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
You think it's gonna be like slap shot, where like
they fight before they and then they're singing the national
anthem and they're all bloody and.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
The glasses are bro that's it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Now, Look, I I think you'll see a fight in
the first ten minutes because ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, because well because for here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm sure both sides have been talked to about fighting
right off the gate. Again, I don't I don't think
either side wants that. I'm sure that's been a conversation. Hey,
we get it's gonna be physical. We understand there's gonna
be fights, but we're not dropping the gloves three times
in the first nine seconds.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Again.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, but the thing is that you're gonna get a
fight early because you're gonna need to take down the
tension and it's got to be a hockey game at
some point, but it's gonna be physical.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I'll tell you this guarantee right now.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The United States is gonna hit and hit and hit,
and it's gonna be bruises on McKinnon and McDavid and Crosby,
and it's gonna be you're really going to earn every
shot you get because that's what the United States does.
They're physical, They're going to run, counterattack, and it's gonna
be a fun game to watch. There's gonna be bone
jarring hits every five seconds in this game. They'll be
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there'll be a bit. I guarantee you there'll be a
big hit in the first twenty seconds to set the tone.
The first person that gets to puck off the face
off is going to get obliterated because both sides are
going to want to set the tone on this.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I like the way you, I like the cut of
your jib. Let's see book maker, EU. I guess uh,
players what happens first shot on goal or players fight?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Total fights?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
First period?
Speaker 5 (39:36):
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say shot on goal before
the fight.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
There will be a shot on goal before the shot
on Goaling is a prohibitive favorite there total fights first period?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What do you think the over under is?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Oh, one and a half?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
You're absolutely right?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Huh total fights in the game still only two and
a half. That's just wrong. That's you say one fight
per period.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, here's the thing. If if the game gets out
of hand, they're will be lots of fights in the
third period like they are. Absolutely I have to break
Uh now, look the reason why. Look, I'm taking the
United States two to one in this game, and it's
it's pretty simple because while Canada has.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
The better roster, the forwards are better.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Uh look they're they're the better team like we but
I like, but the United States has the bee and
they have and and they have the best goalie that
we've ever produced out of the United States, Connor. Hell
of book is Jim Craig. Right, that's how good he is.
He just he plays in Winnipeg. And as much as
I want to talk about hey, hey, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets,
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exciting Jets, Jet, Look it's Winnipeg, so I get it.
People haven't really heard. We don't see him a lot,
but he's gonna probably be the MVP in the NHL.
This year he's gonna win another Vesna Trophy, which is
gonna mean three, which is the big Goalie Award and
which is suddenly now he's with the all time greats,
regardless of country, and he's been terrific. He's the reason
you when you have a hot goalie or a great
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goalie that can that position more than anything else in
all of sports, can flip a game or even the
playing field more than anything else. Canada's got the advantage everywhere.
They don't have the better goalie, but it doesn't matter
because a lot of times I'd rather have the better
goalie than have the better team, because I know if
my guy's gonna be hot and he's gonna be able
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to keep the puck out of the net, eventually we're
gonna get one going the other way, and we're going
to counterattack and we're going to score. It'll be a
low scoring game. I love the under on this way
more so give me the United States two to one
to win this game.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
I go with the boring repeat of three to one
with the empty net or late to pull the goalie,
one of the great moves in all of sports. Say
you best, say another big way. Look a lot of
clutching and grabbing. We were just talking about offensive line. Mean,
that's what I'm getting into in the trenches. The ferocity,
the toughness of the US squad slows down those skaters
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and you get your w and then you get the
victory dance.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
They'll be all on the ice. They're all gonna.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Be dancing on the ice after it's over. Look.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I mean, we get a bunch of syrup and and
Moose immediately, okay, all right, so we get syrup at
Moose if we win, Okay, and who gets drake?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Does the winning team get drake or does the losing
team get drake the loser the loser gets drakes, get drake?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Well, I mean, look, we could use the old drop
of the loser goes in the fire, but I mean
that would be too cruel.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
All Right, the.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Loser gets draight and Serena drops the official first puck.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Well, of course, of course, of course,
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Now, we have that big NBA story coming up at
a second, But you've heard a couple of times tonight
in the show, the breaking news from Dan Byer Zach Martin,
Cowboys All World offensive lineman retiring at the age of
thirty five four. There are many things you can say
about him, and he has been an absolute stalwart of
(01:07):
the offensive line his entire career. Nine time Pro Bowl guard,
nine time All Pro. But man, I don't know I
don't know there's anything more impressive than he's been All
Pro nine times, and this from a couple of different
aggregators NFL aggregators. He's been All Pro nine times and
he's committed seven holding penalties in his career. In his career,
(01:28):
so this is less than one holding penalty a year
over a sixteen to seventeen game season. I mean, that's
just I don't know what, I don't know there's anything
more impressive than that.
Speaker 4 (01:40):
Well, I think it means that he had teammates that
were less effective and technique a little sloppier so they
would get the call instead of him.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Yeah, we can't look at it.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
We we gotta look at this guy.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Or the referees were just enamored with the star.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Ooh man, it's.
Speaker 4 (01:57):
Like the Yankees and the uniforms. You'd already lost step
down the veil.
Speaker 5 (02:01):
I mean, he's he's going to be a first ballot
Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
He's a member, he's a member of the twenty tens
All Decade team. Like this is as close to a
slam unless the guy that didn't vote for eachiro gets
to vote in this.
Speaker 5 (02:12):
And uh, you know there's somebody that could happen.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Man, you get in that room, I mean, someone just
decides to be contrarian.
Speaker 6 (02:18):
Right.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
We've seen some crazy stuff on the MLB side, certainly
the Pro Football Hall of Fame, but yeah, this guy
walks into the hall and and now it's another huge
gaping hole.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Not that you didn't have to already start.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Thinking about succession plans and and what your offensive line
was going to look like, but you got so many
other concerns in Dallas, and now it's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Like, wow, we don't even get him back.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Yeah, even if he's a diminished form of himself at
eighty percent, he's still better, but coming off a big injury,
and you know, at some point you just say it
doesn't fire the same way anymore.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I'm done.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, And if you're if you're Dak Prescott, you go,
oh wow, I'm gonna really earn this money even more
this year.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
But you've seen all the mock drafts, right, you got
Michael Parsons talking a bunch, you know, about his podcasts
and why people may or may not like him, and
that's all finding good, but they've got to figure out
whether they're paying him. We've already paid CD and Dak
we've seen mock drafts like, oh, they'll go and get
a running Back's like, you need a running back, but do.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You really need one? I know? Lineman?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Lineman, lineman, what do we learn? What do you learn
from the teams in your division? Go find lineman and
keep dak up upright and give him an opportunity downfield. Oh,
we'll have more in the story coming up in about
fifteen minutes because, uh, quite honestly, this again is more
about everybody's favorite topic, which is jumping up and down
to the Dallas County. That's right, not achieving, but we
(03:42):
get to kick off the second half of the NBA
seasons that are really the last third of the NBA season.
Last night Lakers lost to the Hornets and probably the
most embarrassing loss they've had all year. But there's one
reason why I am more excited about the second half
of the season than I even was a few days ago.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, you're fired up.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
It's like, what happened?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
What?
Speaker 2 (04:03):
There are no games of played now? Everybody? The Knicks
are fine? Everything, what's wrong? What's wrong?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
They still have a six man rotation?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Come on, every we're coming back, that we're getting healthy.
Everything is open doesn't matter, you, six guys, It doesn't.
We're okay until we're not. Then I'll worry, And then
I'll worry, well until we get to the playoffs. And
as soon as they put the banners up to say, hey,
welcome to the playoffs, then I'll worry. No, I get it, Hey,
it doesn't matter the off season. It's not about being
(04:32):
able to walk in the off season. It's about being
able to play during the season. Okay, you can sit
and not walk in the off season. But I'm so
glad for the rest of the NBA to get going
because now we don't have to hear about the stupidest
thing in the world, and that's that the NBA is
in trouble and might fold because they had a bad
all start.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
You mean that that seventy six billion dollars in checks,
whatever poors you was supposed to show up, did it
not arrived? Did that wire get screwed up?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
This is just incredibly infuriating.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
And there's no better way to dive into this by
then than than talking about the conversation you and I
had with Rick Buker Fox Sports one NBA Insider last night,
in which we brought up what sport. Do you ever
talk about the health of a sport that is defined
by its All Star game? None? All all Star games stink,
We don't. We don't define. The NFL is defined by
(05:26):
the Pro Bowl. There's not even a game anymore. We're defined. No,
we're not. But maybe because it was a slow news week,
Maybe because there's a lot of lazy people out there
that Oh, I'm just mad that the NBA All Star
Game is an affront on me, like they did it
to me personally. The All Star games are bad now,
they're just not good anymore because we've we've just passed
by the era of the All Star game being special.
We have to find the new normal, which is, hey,
(05:49):
let's find out what works. Let's keep throwing stuff up
against the wall. Eventually we'll find something that that everybody likes,
and we'll keep doing that format. The NBA All Star
Game has been bad for fIF teen years now, but
now suddenly the players hate it. Draymond Green is getting
upset when when clearly they don't care about playing and
every game is one eighty four to one eighty, Like
I don't get the hole over the top hatred of
(06:12):
the game, where like this came out of nowhere. It's
an All Star game, it's played on Sunday. We forget
about it one minute following the game on Sunday or
whatever mini games they have on Sunday night. Yeah, I
get that it wasn't the player's favorite, but now it's
the players hated it. The future of the All Star
Game is in doubt. Adam Silver is a bad commissioner.
NBA ratings aren't as high as they used to be.
(06:34):
None of these, none, none of these have to do
with the All Star Game being bad. It's just the
All Star Game was bad. It happens, and now we're
back onto the games where I think people are gonna watch.
I think people are gonna be into the second half
of the NBA season. They want to see how good
Luca is ad all the big trades that were made.
I'm pretty sure we're gonna be able to say goodbye
to the storyline, which is again why I'm most excited
(06:56):
that all the games are gonna go on tonight, because
now this whole NBA All Star Game is terrible can
go back.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
To where it was.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
It's a garbage topic and it's just something that's brought
up because you've had a lot of lazy hosts on
television radio. I want to say how bad it is,
because yeah, nobody seems to like it. So yeah, it's awful.
It's irrelevant. The All Star Game is irrelevant. That's the
real takeaway of it. Now we're back to the games
that matter.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
I mean, you talk about the the NHL All Star Game,
which we're in the middle of. So yeah, new format.
I have some enthusiasm fired up Nation on Nation Great.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
What are the ratings? I don't know.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
They got a four point four the other day. By
way of comparison, the Flag Football Game and this year's
NBA All Star Game four point seven million each.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
So the UA Spike, I know you bet on the
Flag Football Game.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Wait, well, I mean I was also betting on you know,
which guy was going to be able to hit the
forty and fifty points you know, yard throws in the
skills competition too, as they were being heckled or they
had to answer trivia questions about teammates before they started, right,
that gave them extra time all that stuff. To say,
(08:09):
I'm a big nerd when it comes to this stuff,
and I'll watch the T shirt and underwear Olympics next
next week, and I'll have bets on guys forty times.
All of that to say for the NBA, Yeah, it
was it the best, look, Draymond, you know, agent provocateur.
I think that's the term that Silver used on him.
And look, Adam Silver, you may not like him, depending
on where you stand in the game. His allegiance and
(08:35):
as a player's commissioner you like that, even though he
works for the owners everybody, trying to please everybody along
the way, you can not like it. But business wise,
he'sign a seventy six billion dollar deal because everybody wants
in on live programming. Right when you talk about all
these streaming services and everything else coming to the table,
the violins playing behind Chuck and Kenny and Shaq and
(08:56):
Ernie Johnson and everything. Oh no, whatever, you didn't. You
didn't save Earth. You're not the Avengers either. But all
of that, you know, Draymond, it's the sanctity of the
game is ruined by the rising stars being here on Sunday.
They got clicks, They got people to care, right, so
you know that's good. People still care about the event.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
But in the end, if.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
You're expecting wall to wall forty eight minutes slapping the
floor like your old duke role players.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It ain't happening, wojoe hey walking through that door.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, so you take it for what it is, and
like Kevin Durant always reminds us, you don't like it,
don't watch now. Look now, I'm about positivity. I'm about
That's why I brought up the four point seven viewers.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
They actually caught the NFL in something.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
No, but we're gonna hang a banner on that somewhere.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Look, this is the best part of why I can
say going forward because the All Star Game now we're
in the stunt casting era of All Stars games, where
it's what can you do to get people to watch
or to stop people from not watching the most right.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
That's really what it is. We all get it.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
We just want to get the people who normally watch
to keep watching and not lose as many viewers. And
it's the same philosophy of a bar that says, hey,
we need more business. So on Thursday night it's gonna
be Ladies' Night. Friday night, we're gonna have an early
happy hour that starts at noon. Monday nights is gonna
be fifty cent Wing Night during Monday night football Tuesday,
(10:29):
and Okay, we're finding a way to get people in.
But they're coming in because they have the newness of hey.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
We're trying this.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
If they don't like the wings, if they don't like
the crowd, they're not going to come back. But so
the NBA is still trying to find a way to
stunt cast, to find something that hey, this is great,
we can do. Hey, if we do fifty cent Wing
Night every night, that works for us. Right, maybe maybe
early Happy Hour doesn't work on Friday, but this works.
And the evidence is right in front of you because
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look what the NHL has done. They've been going through
the same issues with the NBA and the NFL as
far as how to make their All Star Game relevant.
No one cares. It's we're breaking up the teams. Now,
we're doing all different things. We're stunt casting every single year.
And now they hit on it. They hit on this
Four Nations tournament, which has replaced the All Star Game
for this year. And look how what's become the biggest
event of the week, you know, outside of the Super Bowl,
(11:19):
might be the biggest event of the first three months
of the year calendar wise going into the NCAA tournament, Like,
everybody cares about this, whether they're hockey fans or not.
Speaker 5 (11:28):
This has become a thing.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yes, part of it is the political aspect of it
makes it even more interesting, which bled into what we
saw in that you know, they're bled in, bled into
what we saw on the ice with three fights in
the first nine seconds, United States and Canada. It's the
biggest hockey game since nineteen eighty, Right, you want to
go back to miracle Lize. That's how big this is.
And the NHL has found that, Okay, this works. I
(11:49):
would cancel the All Star Game every year, play this
every year. You can still name people to all. They
could still become all day. We're naming the all Star teams. Right,
you make it all. Doesn't mean you're playing in the
four Nations or five Nations or six nations tournament, but yeah,
you're name to it all start team, and we're gonna
play this and eventually the tournament in the next couple
of years will probably grow. Russia megan in at some
(12:11):
point because they're not playing here with the sanctions on
them because of the war with Ukraine. Germany was close
to getting in. They didn't have enough players. We'll get
to a six nation, seven nation tournament. Will be like
a mini Olympics. It'll be a ton of fun. And
they've also figured out the mid season tournament thing, which
you know Adam Silver loves. How do we make this great?
Like he's obsessed with tournaments and mid season tournaments and everything.
(12:32):
This is what's gonna work. Well, Hey, the NHL figured
it out. So okay, if you are the NBA, do
USA versus the World next year. It seems to be
what the players like. It seems to be what is
gonna generate the least amount of complaining from players from fans.
So if you're giving me the least amount of complaining, hey,
(12:53):
go with that for a year and maybe you hit
on something and it works, right. It just it just
goes to show you that keep trying, keep throwing stuff
up against the wall, keep going trial and error, and
eventually you will hit on something that works. So, yeah,
I just solved the issue for the NBA. Next year,
go to USA versus the World. It'll be absolutely fine.
And then if that doesn't hit, then you worry about
twenty twenty seven. But you know what, hey, that could
(13:14):
be somebody else's job because I got you through next year.
So it works.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
The only problem is that sports media and radio television
thrives and negativity and red ink. If you actually solved this,
when are you gonna say, hey, it was pretty good.
You just killed it in the entire industry.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yeah, sure, yeah I did. Yeah, yeah, but that's okay.
I mean, I'm solving problems. I can only do so much, Mike.
It's a you know, somebody else has to come up
and do something at something. I can't do everything.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Can't somebody else do it?
Speaker 2 (13:42):
I mean, if I'm a starting pitcher and I go
seven innings and I throw out oh no pitches and
you know, eight to you know, sixteen strikeouts and I
leave with a two nothing lead, I need the bullpen
to come in and do the final two innings.
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to the football story in a minute, But I really
I feel the need. I mean, this is something that
just cuts through the clutter here in the middle of
the day on a Thursday. Uh, I get certain things
how they're popular on the internet when certain things are
thrown out there. But something with over five million views
(16:25):
already on on x is someone who just threw out
a random topic saying if all of the presidents were
in a WWE royal rumble, who would win?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Well, I mean President Trump's already a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Well, well, I'm wondering why, well this but this is
I mean.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
He's he's not as a wrestler though, this is like
who is wrestling and who would who would?
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Period?
Speaker 5 (16:50):
Right, Well, he's getting all the big.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Push because yeah, tell you, but like Apri continue to
give speech you after getting shot.
Speaker 5 (16:56):
Yeah, but that's great.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
But Lincoln was six ' four like he would like
Teddy Roosevelt was what like five to one, like you
could be tough. But man, being six four, especially back then,
that's really well, that's like being sets like being Wemby Now. Yeah,
but once you get inside him, he's done.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (17:12):
Well, but can you get inside Lincoln?
Speaker 2 (17:14):
He's got the hat. He could just take the hat
and just hit.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
You with it.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
Well, and all of the different accoutrements. Yeah, yeah, definitely,
you could use the coat. I mean, it could kind
of glam that up a little bit, sparkly, long black coat.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
He's got a good look.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
I mean it's been often imitated, never duplicated in w
w ee lore. You know, the no mustache beard look.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, I mean I think the beard would be a
good look, though, I certainly plays.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
I'm trying to think of who else could uh be
part of part of the action. I mean, would be
a manager?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
Yeah, No Kennedy because he played football on the lawn r.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
The back is taking him out though.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, but how much would you need him for? I mean,
I don't know if I need him for these other guys.
Everybody else is very old.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Iowa, Sam's very very correct. Gerald Ford could get after it.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Gerald Ford, the guy was president for a year and
a half, could be the winner.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Hey you know what.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
Yeah, he didn't age nearly as badly as the other
guys doing their four eight years in the office.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Oh, don't forget about w guys. Yeah, okay, the greatest
first pitch ever.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute now, because w
and his dad would have some kind of alliance. Don't
forget about that. They would work together all the way
till the end, and then they would both hold each
other's hands up that they won, and then w would
hit his dad in the stomach and go oh, I
can't believe that's happened. Look at this like but they
would all the way to the end and they would
(18:43):
hold each other's hands up. They would fight together, so
they're the only ones to be. They would have some
kind of coalition and alliance. They would do it together.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah, original George Bush. He was a ballplayer, right, he's
a baseball player, So you got your going forward.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Fire and baseball's at why not.
Speaker 4 (18:59):
Just Sam also gives us the inclusion of Ulyss. He says,
Grant it's supposed to be a pretty salty dog, so
he can get after it. It was a general the
guy won the civil match that I made was available.
Speaker 5 (19:12):
Yeah, I think you have.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
The thing is you have lots of leaders. I don't
I don't you know. I don't know how many. I
don't know how many athletes you have that can win.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Who are we tagging in?
Speaker 2 (19:20):
I don't know what would They would all have different
outfits to wear to be led to the ring. You know,
it would be kind of fun.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
No, I think this really works.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, No, I think that's a really I think that's
a really good man.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
President Obama, I mean, play some hoops, but generally he's
going to be the speaker, so we'll probably have him,
you know on the call with McAfee and Cole.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, I mean John Adams was really short, like he
was only like five too. He wouldn't you know, he
wouldn't be able to do it. I mean Washington, Washington out.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
I mean, look, there's genres of wrestling that we get
into when you start talking about adding the really short presidents.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
Yeah, well, I mean that's why that's why Lincoln is
such a big deal because being six four, like being
six ' four in an event like this where I
think the tallest president was probably five to six for
most of the time, like he's gonna be he's gonna
look like Andre the Giant in the ring, especially with
the top hack.
Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah, but it'd be just clearing house. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
The body weigh in it though, And did he have
the poe? I mean it was he just country strong.
Is that what we're talking about here? Iowa Sam wants
to tag in.
Speaker 2 (20:22):
I just want to mention guys that if we're talking
about like big bodies, William Howard's Haft.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
It was our largest president at three hundred and thirty
two pounds.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
So we get a little Bundy abduel of the Butcher
kind of thing going on. He gotta have a pressure
black body, right, I have just grabbed everybody from every
region of the eighties right there.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
But I mean just think about yeah, Lincoln, that would
be a thing like did he go like we be
six four, like one sixty five?
Speaker 5 (20:50):
Like that would be tough. That'd be very difficult.
Speaker 4 (20:53):
I need, you don't know, I need to do a
deeper dive on the personalities though here, Jason, Like when
we start talking about trying to compare him to other
rest because like if Taft has a big personality, is
he is he a little bit like Dusty Rhodes?
Speaker 2 (21:06):
Okay, so he comes.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
Out of a dream shake kind of going down.
Speaker 5 (21:10):
Well, I don't think this is about who's great on
the microphone.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
No, no, no, no, no, I mean Dusty Rhoads in
the ring. I mean he's a big body, man.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
I think I think every president would be good on
the mic I mean, come on, no, no, no, that
is categorically not true. Have you not watched anything I've
come on now I've seen I think they talk. They
know how to talk. They can, they can, they can
speak in circles. And man, I don't want to go
off political here, but you know, a dude here, you
get people. If they say anything, it doesn't matter, it
(21:38):
doesn't matter. I mean you get there.
Speaker 5 (21:40):
I mean you get everybody else is gonna say something.
And then Lincoln's gonna say, you.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Know, four score's okay, that wins? Fine, all right, great,
Getty's burger dress, lasagna? Is that steak?
Speaker 1 (21:49):
I'm taking Garfield?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Well, plain, I was gonna say that. I would say
it plays a quote from Dwayne Johnson The Rock. He's
getting care ad in a Scorsese movie. Now he's all serious. Wow,
so we may not get the final boss back. I'm
a little salty about that.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Oh exit, how about a Fresca exit, swollen dome? Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon, liventhtirac dot com Studios. We'll get back into
that big NFL topic coming up in ninety seconds, but
first Dan Byer's got what's trending in the wide world
of sports dB big news out of Texas.
Speaker 6 (22:23):
We'll start in the NFL where Cowboys guard Zach Martin's
calling it quits after eleven seasons, all with Dallas seven
first team All Pro selections, adding two other second team
All Pro selections. Martin's next stop, at thirty four years sold,
its likely the Hall of Fame in five years. Big
news out of the NBA also in Texas is Spurs
center Victor weban Yama will miss the rest of the
(22:44):
season because of a blood clot in his shoulder. Mavericks
forward Anthony Davis continues to improve from his adductor strain.
He'll be reevaluated in two weeks. Lakers won't to have
Luka Dancic tonight against Portland. Lebron James is considered questionable.
Milwaukee Bucks forward Bobby Portis has spended twenty five games
for testing positive for a band substance, while the agent
(23:06):
for Hornet center Mark Williams says multiple doctors believe Williams
should have passed as physical with the Lakers in the
deal that has since been rescinded because of the Lakers results.
College football note, Texas and USC won't be holding spring
games in twenty twenty five. Yankees gave manager Aaron Boone
to your extension through twenty twenty seven Cactus League play
opening today with the Dodgers and Cubs. Dodgers pitcher Bobby
(23:28):
Miller able to walk off on his own power after
he was hitting the head with a one hundred and
five mile Prower line drive off the bat of the Cubs.
Michael Busch and The Athletic is reporting Major League Baseball
and ESPN have mutually agreed to opt out of their
TV deal following the twenty twenty five season. There were
three years left on it. In Golf, Golf Channel reported
earlier today a deal between the PGA Tour and the
(23:49):
Saudi Public Investment Fund, which runs live golf, could be
struck by the end of the day, following meetings at
the White House that included President Trump and Tiger Woods guys.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
Back to you things a bunch, dB appreciate it, man,
all right? So you heard Dan Byer there, Zach Martin
calling it quits. Look first ballot, Hall of Famer nine,
all Pro selections seven holding penalties' entire career. Why does
this signal you know about the Cowboys where you can
jump up and down and go look at their failures.
The Cowboys have had a long live just in the
(24:21):
last fifteen years, the number of players they have had
who have been All Pro, numerous Pro Bowls at different positions,
and they still can't get to an NFC title game,
much less a Super Bowl. Whether you're talking about Martin
or Tryon Smith or Dez Bryant. I mean, they have
had tons of talent that's either homegrown or gotten in
(24:45):
free agency, that have spent a long time in parts
of their careers with the Cowboys, and they just can't win.
This is tons of talent. I'm not saying, hey, they've
had good players, like every team gets good players, but
these are some guys who, hey, man, I don't know
that they have better players at their position anywhere in
the NFL. And still they wind up falling short, and
(25:07):
they wind up not being able to win big enough,
and they throw up on themselves in the playoffs and
they can't move on in the postseason past the first game.
They play like it's I mean, yes, celebrate the end
of Zach Ward's career, but understand the boy. He's just
the latest Cowboy to have an incredible career and be great,
and the Cowboys really not turning that into anything over
the last fifteen Hey.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
What did you do.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, we talked all this, and now you literally took
the boot to the candy asses of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
I mean you just absolutely buried them again. They haven't
even recovered from the Eagles winning the Super Bowl. And
now you add this. It's like, hey, by the way,
you had all these greats and you failed. Dak Prescott,
great pick good, you didn't maximize it. Here's the team
that was really good. Ah, you went and got worked
and made Jordan Love a legend and a lot of money.
(25:56):
All of this stuff, all of this to say, yeah,
I mean you've you've seen some really great talent, but
you've never had full rosters.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
Usually it's been one side of the ball is good
to great and the other mediocre. Even this year, you
had a guy that I was arguing as an MVP
candidate if the Cowboys had actually won a couple of
games in Brandon Aubrey.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
For his early season heroics.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Yeah that's right, kickers, But all of that for Jerry Jones,
for Steven Jones, for the brain trust, whoever else gets
into the room where it happens. See, now we're just
going full political by bringing Hamilton in that we talk
about the Cowboys, and opportunities missed building around this because
we've seen teams even in current NFL situations.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
You know, look at San Francisco.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You had Williams and a bunch of guys who were
okay to slightly above average, and they dominated as a
line other offensive lines Baltimore, Ronnie Stanley's healthy, and we
see what that becomes in terms of being able to
run the ball as effectively as they did. For Dallas,
You've got Martin and you haven't been able to parlay
(27:07):
that into great success. You haven't been able to elevate
the rest of these guys along the way.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
I know.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Obviously we had Travis Frederick for a few years and
then he had to retire from illness, So you missed
having that the center become that focal point for those years.
But yeah, now it's the next iteration of how do
you get out of where you are? Because you've already
paid a couple go to that Joe Burrow model of hey,
(27:35):
how do we figure out how to pay everybody? They
got to look into vision and figure it out, or
ask someone who was a plant for the Rams. Go
find a low level guy that had access to the
copy machine and hire him.
Speaker 5 (27:48):
Hey, you know how to make copies?
Speaker 6 (27:49):
Right?
Speaker 5 (27:49):
Yeah? Right, Hey, I have a job offer for you.
You're not gonna bull It's gonna be well.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
I mean, look, you're telling me they didn't look at
what they were copying. You probably learned something along the way.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
How are they doing this? I'll tell you. Look for
the Cowboys, it's they're doomed to this, right, The Cowboys
are doomed to this reality of every year you think
they're going to be better, you think they have some
kind of hope, and then it's the same thing. They're
never out and out terrible, they're never out and out awful,
(28:18):
but they never reach the heights they should be. And yes,
are Cowboy fans a little bit outlandish with their expectations, Yeah,
because the era of the Cowboys being dumb and has
come and gone. Yeah. Now it's thirty years between Super Bowls.
We gotta understand it's a new world order right now.
You had the Patriots dynasty for twenty years. Now, you
had the Chiefs dynasty the last few years. Things have changed, right,
(28:40):
and you're not gonna suddenly get back to being the
Cowboys of the seventies and the eighties. That era is gone.
But still you're America's team, the most popular team in
the country. You should be able to pack up all
kinds of talent and win just by trotting guys out
on the field. You should be able to be a
yearly deep in the in the playoffs, threat to go
(29:02):
you know, decently far. And instead you're not because you
can't get out of your own way. And yes, you
can blame Jerry Jones for a lot of things, one
hundred percent, I get it. And look at what he's
doing now with Brian Schottenheimer, who knows that this is
even gonna work. And I'm sure he fired Mike McCarthy
because McCarthy was probably more respected that he wanted him
to have with the players, and the players liked him
(29:23):
more than they than Jerry Jones would want them to
like their head coach because he's got to be the voice.
So it's just they just keep they just keep getting
in their own way, either on the field with an
injury to Dak Prescott off the field, with Jerry Jones
doing his thing. And I feel like this is a
conversation now we've had for for a long time to
understand that This is just who they are, right, this,
this this romanticizing of the Cowboys and thinking they're coming back. No,
(29:46):
this is kind of who they are. They're popular. It's fun, right,
it's fun to it's fun to make fun of. They'll
win some games, but this is not gonna be a dine.
It's never gonna be a dine. He's never gonna get
back to where they were. This has been the norm
for the Cowboys for a long time. We just have
to get used to it now. And there's still so
much hangover. It's like the people, it's still you know,
(30:08):
Tyson's sixty years old. I can't wait till gets back
and wins the world championship again. Not happening, right, not
happening for time. Wasn't happening in the nineties. Was it
happening in early two thousand when Tyson starts winning again? No,
like those days are gone and the Cowboys are really popular,
but when it comes to it, they really don't move
the needle on the field. And this is this is
who they are. They are a team that every year
gives you a little bit of hope, but they won't
(30:30):
get all the way to where you think they're gonna
get because they're simply not good enough. They have great
players all the way through, but they find a way
to fritter it away. They don't have the deep enough
roster you need to get far enough in the playoffs.
This is just kind of who they are. You can
point to reasons, but to all of a sudden think, hey, Cowboys,
dealers will be back, be the salad days of the
NFL again. Those days are gone.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
I mean they did bring back Matt Eberflus, so that
short gets well.
Speaker 4 (30:55):
I mean they get the defense right, yeah, because what
was the thing in common line your team and my
team last year? They stunk, Yeah, but their defenses were
pretty good until they fired their head coach and all
what the hell all that to say? And then Schottenneimer
comes in as the first time they coach. Look for
the Cowboys, it's the lean into the branding, right. You
(31:17):
got lots of money in Dallas that can be had
in terms of sponsorship deals, partnerships, whatever not that you
can promise that as an owner. But you know, hey,
you happen to walk into a restaurant, Hey, look who's here?
Speaker 1 (31:31):
This guy? You know what he owns?
Speaker 2 (31:33):
Yeah, he needs a guy for commercials. You guys should
talk all of those like, oh, by the way, tax savings,
big deal. Go back to that Joe Burrow comment of hey,
what the Eagles do, and we always talk about what
the Rams do and how smart they've been.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
In terms of cat management. You got to go figure
out what the leaders are doing and copy them. Right,
it's a copycat.
Speaker 1 (31:51):
League on the field. You really need to learn as
a front office guy. You're not the smartest guy in
the room all the time.
Speaker 4 (31:57):
You were when you bought the Cowboys as a quasi
distress property back in the day.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
That's a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Yeah, it is a long time and all of that.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
It's thirty years.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Right, that went right. You had a ridiculous run. We
joked about it, and I only have joking. It's like,
does Jimmy Johnson want to coach again?
Speaker 4 (32:16):
Hire him? I don't want to lose him at Fox.
I love Jimmy Johnson, but hire him. Let him be
the guy that runs things. If other people run practices, whatever,
that's fine. But you need that guy in the room
to tell you when you're being an idiot and when
you're going down a bad path, to help you in
the talent evaluation, because clearly the brain trust you've assembled
(32:37):
has not done it properly.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
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and Rich As. We are about an hour and fifteen
minutes away from the biggest sporting event of the week,
the biggest hockey game since nineteen eighty as we get
the Four Nations Championship between Canada and the United States. Look,
(34:36):
it is some kind of event. People that have never
watched a hockey game before. We're gonna watch night and
go Okay, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (34:42):
What is it all about?
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Is Trump?
Speaker 3 (34:44):
There?
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Is Trudeau there? What's going on? If Canada wins, do
they get California? If we win, do we get Canada?
What are the stakes of this game?
Speaker 5 (34:52):
I want to know?
Speaker 2 (34:52):
This is how big a game this is?
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Mike Carbon, Can we draw those out in scenarios? Like
can do a whole simulation process?
Speaker 5 (34:59):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (35:00):
As to what would then occur in the world, and
like where's the movie? How quickly can we get this
green light? And who would star?
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (35:07):
In terms of all right, this was the result of
a hockey game and here's the world three years later.
Speaker 2 (35:11):
Oh yeah, that'd be awesome, right, like like Canada scores
a goal early and like Trudeau is cutting Canada, cutting,
cutting California off of the map and like pasting it
up like right under Alaska.
Speaker 1 (35:23):
Oh that would be mean, like it's a mustache.
Speaker 5 (35:25):
Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Meanwhile, Trump is is is you know the United States scores?
Trump is coloring in Canada to be a state, to
be a state?
Speaker 1 (35:33):
Is here?
Speaker 2 (35:33):
It is?
Speaker 5 (35:33):
So weah Ran Like that's awesome, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
I mean it's you can't ignore the geopolitical aspect of
this game and how big. And that's why I say
it's the biggest game we've seen in hockey since the
Miracle on Ice because of how it's at a perfect
spot on the sports calendar this week, coming off of
of the the really bad NBA All Star Game. We
haven't had a ton of games yet. You obviously college
(35:58):
basketball has been going on, but to NFL Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
The game is on in our window. It's not an
Olympic game.
Speaker 2 (36:03):
We have to wake up at two in the morning
to watch because it's halfway across the globe. It is
a you know it, it sticks out and no other
game has had the political backdrop of this.
Speaker 5 (36:14):
Now.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Trump said he can't be at the game tonight because
he has a speech to give, but he said he
talked to the team. They're ready to go, and yeah,
maybe Canada will be our fifty first state soon. Like
he's you know, he's twisted the knife on this game.
But this is an incredible moment for hockey and they
need to capitalize on this just like they did in
nineteen eighty off the Miracle on Ice and and say, okay,
(36:35):
now the next few years we're gonna be able to
feel the impact of this going forward and hockey can
get a little bit bigger piece of the pie than
it's had for the past twenty years or so.
Speaker 4 (36:45):
GM Bill Garon told Michael Russo that President Trump called
Team USA earlier this morning, spoke to the entire team
for quote, quite a while before their morning skate, like what's.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
Quite a while? Like a half hour? Is at like
four minutes? Like I don't know what, Like, what's quite
a while.
Speaker 4 (37:01):
When asked to elaborate, Garren just said, quote, he just
wanted to wish us luck.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
I want to know what the hell else was said?
Now I want the full audio.
Speaker 4 (37:13):
Wait, I've said that for about politicians and politics for
my whole adult life, So maybe that's asking too much,
but yeah, no, it's crazy, right.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
I mean, you've just got this backdrop to it.
Speaker 4 (37:26):
And going off of the game we were witnessed on
Saturday that cut through everything. Right, It's All Star Saturday Night,
and yeah, you had the usual lam lamentations about the
players in the NBA that weren't participating in the dunk contest.
We're talking about Mac McClung jumping over cars and and
everything else he could do. Stefan Castle with a great effort,
(37:47):
a three point shootout, and how nobody could hit the
broadside of a barn for a good chunk of it. No,
I cut through because we got three fights and nine seconds.
Where do you go to we go lowest common denominator
violence cuts through social media?
Speaker 2 (38:03):
No second.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
Yeah, we're not getting through the reverberations.
Speaker 2 (38:09):
You think it's gonna be like slap shot, where like
they fight before they and then they're singing the national
anthem and they're all bloody and.
Speaker 5 (38:14):
The glasses are bro that's it.
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Oh my god, here we go.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
Now, Look, I I think you'll see a fight in
the first ten minutes because ten minutes.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Yeah, because well because for here's the thing.
Speaker 2 (38:25):
I'm sure both sides have been talked to about fighting
right off the gate. Again, I don't I don't think
either side wants that. I'm sure that's been a conversation. Hey,
we get it's gonna be physical. We understand there's gonna
be fights, but we're not dropping the gloves three times
in the first nine seconds.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Again.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Well, but the thing is that you're gonna get a
fight early because you're gonna need to take down the
tension and it's got to be a hockey game at
some point, but it's gonna be physical.
Speaker 5 (38:48):
I'll tell you this guarantee right now.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
The United States is gonna hit and hit and hit,
and it's gonna be bruises on McKinnon and McDavid and Crosby,
and it's gonna be you're really going to earn every
shot you get because that's what the United States does.
They're physical, They're going to run, counterattack, and it's gonna
be a fun game to watch. There's gonna be bone
jarring hits every five seconds in this game. They'll be
(39:11):
there'll be a bit. I guarantee you there'll be a
big hit in the first twenty seconds to set the tone.
The first person that gets to puck off the face
off is going to get obliterated because both sides are
going to want to set the tone on this.
Speaker 4 (39:22):
I like the way you, I like the cut of
your jib. Let's see book maker, EU. I guess uh,
players what happens first shot on goal or players fight?
Speaker 1 (39:34):
Total fights?
Speaker 2 (39:35):
First period?
Speaker 5 (39:36):
I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say shot on goal before
the fight.
Speaker 4 (39:39):
There will be a shot on goal before the shot
on Goaling is a prohibitive favorite there total fights first period?
Speaker 1 (39:44):
What do you think the over under is?
Speaker 5 (39:46):
Oh, one and a half?
Speaker 1 (39:48):
You're absolutely right?
Speaker 2 (39:49):
Wow, look at that.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Huh total fights in the game still only two and
a half. That's just wrong. That's you say one fight
per period.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
Well, here's the thing. If if the game gets out
of hand, they're will be lots of fights in the
third period like they are. Absolutely I have to break
Uh now, look the reason why. Look, I'm taking the
United States two to one in this game, and it's
it's pretty simple because while Canada has.
Speaker 5 (40:14):
The better roster, the forwards are better.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
Uh look they're they're the better team like we but
I like, but the United States has the bee and
they have and and they have the best goalie that
we've ever produced out of the United States, Connor. Hell
of book is Jim Craig. Right, that's how good he is.
He just he plays in Winnipeg. And as much as
I want to talk about hey, hey, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets, Jets,
(40:39):
exciting Jets, Jet, Look it's Winnipeg, so I get it.
People haven't really heard. We don't see him a lot,
but he's gonna probably be the MVP in the NHL.
This year he's gonna win another Vesna Trophy, which is
gonna mean three, which is the big Goalie Award and
which is suddenly now he's with the all time greats,
regardless of country, and he's been terrific. He's the reason
you when you have a hot goalie or a great
(41:01):
goalie that can that position more than anything else in
all of sports, can flip a game or even the
playing field more than anything else. Canada's got the advantage everywhere.
They don't have the better goalie, but it doesn't matter
because a lot of times I'd rather have the better
goalie than have the better team, because I know if
my guy's gonna be hot and he's gonna be able
(41:22):
to keep the puck out of the net, eventually we're
gonna get one going the other way, and we're going
to counterattack and we're going to score. It'll be a
low scoring game. I love the under on this way
more so give me the United States two to one
to win this game.
Speaker 4 (41:33):
I go with the boring repeat of three to one
with the empty net or late to pull the goalie,
one of the great moves in all of sports. Say
you best, say another big way. Look a lot of
clutching and grabbing. We were just talking about offensive line. Mean,
that's what I'm getting into in the trenches. The ferocity,
the toughness of the US squad slows down those skaters
(41:55):
and you get your w and then you get the
victory dance.
Speaker 1 (41:58):
They'll be all on the ice. They're all gonna.
Speaker 2 (42:03):
Be dancing on the ice after it's over. Look.
Speaker 4 (42:07):
I mean, we get a bunch of syrup and and
Moose immediately, okay, all right, so we get syrup at
Moose if we win, Okay, and who gets drake?
Speaker 5 (42:17):
Does the winning team get drake or does the losing
team get drake the loser the loser gets drakes, get drake?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Okay?
Speaker 4 (42:23):
Well, I mean, look, we could use the old drop
of the loser goes in the fire, but I mean
that would be too cruel.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
All Right, the.
Speaker 5 (42:29):
Loser gets draight and Serena drops the official first puck.
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Well, of course, of course, of course,
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