March 12, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres, in for Covino & Rich, discuss what they believe are the best days on the sports calendar! The guys discuss what options the NCAA could take to mend how teams get automatic bids for the Tournament. Plus, what days on the sports calendar have lost their luster?!
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Let's get this bad boy rolling with conference tournament? Shall we?
Erin Torres?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh, you're speaking my language? What do they say? Talk
dirty to me?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hell?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Yeah, give me a little meek. We've got Southland right now,
We've got a ten.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We've got Southeastern Conference I think we're smack dab in
the middle of the Southland. Yeah, yeah, south He's in Lamar.
Is this gonna be Will Wade's final conference game McNee Yes,
I believe. So what's also incredible, And I'm not here
to judge. The game is on.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Mcneese's home court, and they don't have a full house.
I'm not here to judge, but you think they'd get
a little bit of a better crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It's on their home court. So Wednesday maybe weather. You know,
we've got weather here in southern California. I don't know
what it's like on the other side of the country.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
But that's why I don't want to be critical, because
I've been told that there McNeese is in Lake Charles,
Louisiana for people who do not know, and I've been
told that that area in general, because of hurricanes, is
the population is kind of dwindled. So I don't know,
but I mean the arena is still there, So again,
I don't I don't want to be too critical.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just I'm just just observing.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'll tell you what. Some of these crowds are, these
neutral site ones, And I know that your point of
this is a home site, neutral site, you can maybe
understand why Lesal and UMass aren't packing the joint. I
don't even know where the A ten tournament is right now.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I don't either. It wasn't Atlantic City for a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
That's in DC. I can see actually small on the court,
so you can't make the trip down from Philadelphia to
watch an eight thirteen and eighteen LaSalle squad play Ran
Duntfee retiring really quickly.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I know, I just criticized the crowded McNees. I was
watching the NEC championship game last night. Saint Francis just
broke the heart of my Central Connecticut Blue Devils. But
the game was at Central Connecticut's home gym. More small
conferences should go for the higher seed host the championship game.
In my opinion, well, great environment.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well as we determine what is the greatest day of
the sporting calendar, it does allow us to bring in Iowa. Sam,
because this is something you and Doug Gottlieb have talked
about over the last couple of days. You've talked about
out the conference tournaments. You just give us your stance, Sam,
(03:06):
Just so I don't put words in your mouth, but
I know, Doug is also brought up that he feels
that home court should be more utilized in conference tournaments,
but also you're kind of back and forth started with
your point of the conference tournament anyway, correct.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Yeah, last week I said to Doug, you know, with
some of these one bid leagues there, you know that
they're not going to get any at large. You know,
MVC all the way, the NAK, the MIAC, the SWAK,
all of those league.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You say, swack.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Teacher wears when she's teaching class.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Or the smock. I've never heard of SWAK. I don't know, yes,
but I know what you mean. I've heard of the
mag the Metro Atlantic.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Is that the one with the Manhattan Jaspers? And yeah,
that I think has my favorite nicknames of any college
basketball league is that one.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You have Hairfield Stags, you.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Have the Canisiuses whatever they are, the like the Golden Griffins,
and it just has excellent nicknames.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The Jaspers.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Did you did you notice the Saint Thomas Tommy's in
the Summit Championship game the other day against the Omaha
First of all, Omaha Mavericks is actually a pretty it
sounds like a like a UFL name.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Yes, it sounds like a team from any given Sunday exactly.
My I guess I kind of reeled this take back
a little bit. My original take was that for these
one bid leagues, the NCAA tournament bid should go to
the regular season champion and get rid of the conference
tournaments completely. And I know, and I don't know if
I even agree with that myself my own take because
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I love conference tournament time. But is there something like
where you have in the final of the CAAA Championship.
Is that the Colonial Athletic Association the CIA. Yes, yes,
you had the Delaware Blue Hens taking on the UNC
Wilmington Seahawks game, but yes, and UNC Wilmington pulled it
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out seventy six to seventy two yesterday. But you had
a Delaware team with a sixteen and twenty overall record
and a five and thirteen CAA record with a chance
to get to the nca tournament. And I'm like, don't
when you only have one bid the team that has
the best regular season in conference. Don't even give the
teams like Delaware a seat at the table. Well, because yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Game that I just referenced, Central Connecticut twenty five and
seven overall fourteen and two in the league, won the
league by two games. Saint Francis with the win last night,
improves to sixteen and seventeen and gets the automatic bids.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
And I'm not against keeping. I'm either against the either
go with my most radical take, which was just get
rid of the conference tournament, which.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
By the way, then just let me stop you. This
is what you brought up with Doug, and Doug's counterpoint,
which I think we all understand, is these conference tournaments
and putting the games at ESPN are the only ways
for these conferences to make like get the money.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
So that's why I wanted to reel back my original take, like, Okay,
don't get rid of the tournament altogether. Maybe just allow
teams from those one bid leagues who have a winning
record in conference all the way up to the champion
of the regular season.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Can I give you a pseudo compromise that won't happen,
but should go for it. If we expand the NCAA
tournament beyond sixty eight teams, which we shouldn't, all those
bids should not go to the fourteenth place team in
the Big Ten or the thirteenth place team in the SEC,
like make the field of sixty eight those last. If
we're gonna add bids, give them to regular season champions from.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Who got knocked out in the conference journey.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yes, that won't happen because again we're expanding to get
more big brands and more Big ten and SEC and
ACC in.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But that's what should happen. Well also, and I agree
with you because I've said the same thing. I think
it adds a lot to it. You can't you can't
judge each year on how many of those teams are
going to be in. So, like in terms of knocked out,
like if you were to have four at large bids
and then set aside four spots, do you do it?
Do you do it as like a bid Steelers sort
of deal? Is it only one team that ends up
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getting knocked out? So then would they have to play
a Texas team? Or like how would it work? I don't,
I don't. I don't know how the whole process would
work out because you could have you gonna be you
already had maybe nine teams get knocked out, and now
you only have eight spots to fill. So that would
be the tricky tricky portion of it. So and By
the way, if you're tousand who is knocked out by
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by Delaware and you lose to UNC Wilmington, I don't
know if that's like you should get into the tournament
then like UNC Wilmington was the two seed, so they
win the conference tournament, they beat the top seed. Like
in essence, so now you're gonna allow the Colonial Athletic
Association to get two teams in the tournament, Like I
feel like like that that would be the only rub
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against it as well, like they're gonna be well represented
by the second best team or you know that they
had throughout the year and that's not too shabby.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Yeah, I think my point in all this is to
avoid is to get the best teams from those one
bid leagues, whether it's like the top what if top
three seeds, top four sees get them in the NC
tournament and not even like in the Big Ten now,
just because it's so bloated with eighteen teams, Iowa and
Nebraska had to fight it out in the final game
of the regular season just for Iowa to become the
fifteen seed, the final seat, the final team in the
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Big Ten. But I think that you know, we're never
We're not gonna get rid of conference tournaments, like, don't
do that, But I want to make it reward the
regular season champion as much as possible, So have them
not play until the semi finals, reward them with if
it's well the Sun Belts Conference weighted baggered, yes, and
West Coast Conference has done it forever. And make it
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as hard as possible for those really bottom dwelling teams
in those one bid leagues to make it all the
way and get an NC Tournament bid.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So quote our friend Shack Sun Belt, I was not
familiar with your game. The one in two seeds got
the quintuple buy into either what was it the semis
I believe, yes, five rounds until they had to play.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And not only that, I think they've both lost.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I know South Alabama was the one seed and they did.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so so I think you had the three to
four matchup in the Sun Belt and and I'm actually
just bringing it up right here. It's just taking me
forever because sun And when you're scrolling through the standings
is all the way at the bottom. Yeah, because you
had South Alabama, James Madison, Arkansas State and Troy Troy
ends up getting the automatic bid, they go to the
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to the dance. But yeah, it was like a bowling tournament.
That's how you do bowling tournaments. You just go one
to the next and the next, and if you're the
lowest seed and you can beat everybody, you moved on.
But even the double by there didn't help. It's also
crazy because here you had a four way tie, so
two teams actually had to play an extra game despite
having they were in a four way tie. Where if
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you had a four way tie in the big ten,
the top the standings, it doesn't matter. Everybody gets a
buy to the you know, to the quarterfinals. At least
this actually made it even weirder. But yeah, the Sun
Belt had crazy, crazy bracket, but it is to protect
everyone else. I think that a bigger conversation to have
at some point Erin and I actually going to be
in tomorrow Mike Harmon and Jason Smith going to be
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in the spot for Covino and Rich and you and
I are going to be in Jason and Mike's spot,
so we could talk more about it tomorrow night, because
I think there is a conversation to have as well.
I think there's a conversation as well of why top
seeded teams even need to be in the conference tournaments.
If you're in the SEC, I know there's a lot
to play for with no.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Id to me to cut you up.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
This has been a big conversation in SEC Land this
week of like, is it actually not good to win
the conference tournament? Is it better to get knocked out
on like Friday and get two extra days rest than
if say you're Kentucky and you'd have to play Alabama
and then all Burn to win a championships.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And I feel that there's there's not as much weight
on the conference tournament as there used to be. Remember
when we would always think like, oh, this run to
the finals has allowed this team and that would get
the bracket. And nowadays we're like, well that didn't matter
at all, let's team beat that team. Seems like things
were already set. I don't think it's got as big
of a picture.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I'll tell you this. That'll be a fun conversation for
us on Sunday. Is you and I are while I'm
filling in for Kerry Rhodes on Sunday. But you know,
three number one seeds are set in stone, and it
feels like the fourth number one seed. Whoever gets it,
whether it's Alabama, Florida, Tennessee out of the SEC, or
Michigan State out of the Big Ten, they're going to
be playing on Sunday. And so it's like the big
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thing of everybody just it's kind of been a default
talking point of like the bracket kind of gets set
on Saturday night and what happens on Sunday doesn't matter,
and the committee always says that it doesn't. Well, you know,
if Michigan State loses and gets the fourth number one
seed over an SEC team or something to that manner,
I think that'll only be a bigger picture conversation comes Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Here's and I'm I'm not as against expanding the tournament.
I wouldn't say I'm for it, but it doesn't bother
me if they expanded it to seventy six. I think
there's ways that you can make it work. The point
of the Conference champions we just brought up the Sunbay
If you wanted to give the Sun Belt regular season
champ an opportunity to play in that game, how the
heck do you do it with a four way tie?
Speaker 8 (12:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like that? Like that that's another way to. I'd love
to make it where everybody's happy, but it's just it's difficult.
You're a happy guy because of the time of year
that we are in. I love talking about sports calendar.
And the reason I talk about sports calendar so much
is I think sports fans lives are run by their
sports calendar, no doubt. And maybe when you have kids
(12:30):
it's by their little league schedules. But you know when
it's football season, you know when it's baseball season, and
you know when it's March, and it's March madness, and
we are in the thick of it right now, smack
dab in the middle of the month. And Aaron Torres,
this is your time of year. If you are ranking
all of the sports that you have a passion for,
you obviously cover college basketball. College hoops has got to
(12:52):
be number one on top of the list. Is this
your Christmas Day? What is your Christmas Day? Your most
fake favorite sports day of the entire sports calendar?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
So today is actually my Christmas Eve. Dan, So first
of all, let me say this and I'll be quick
because I want to get everybody else's opinion on this.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
This narrative has switched.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I feel like in the last I was arguing eight
nine years ago that the Conference championship week is actually
better than the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. You
get more games with more good teams. They all know
each other. So if Duke's the number one seed next week,
you know you could get Duke three times this weekend
against North Carolina and then against Louisville and then against whoever.
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You don't get that in the first and second round.
So I love this week. But I will tell you
this I believe, well, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
My favorite day on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
The sports calendar is Thursday of Conference Championship Week. Every
big conference is going because of the way the by
structure works, everybody is playing on that Thursday. The SEC
in the Big ten not so much. But you get
all the big conferences for four straight windows. Everybody has
four straight windows, whether it's quarterfinals, whether it's like the
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first round into the quarterfinals. So you're gonna wake up
on Thursday and at noon Eastern the SEC, ACC, Big Ten,
Big twelve, Big East are all going to be playing
at the exact same time, and we're gonna have four
straight windows of that all day on.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Thursday, I think I saw at Sweed. It may have
been Brad Powers, It may have been Steve Fezik, I
can't remember who it was, may have been Todd Furman,
a friend of the network. But they said that to
what you said to being in Las Vegas. Oh yeah,
next weekend isn't the weekend to be in Las Vegas.
Now is the time to be in Las Vegas for
the amount of games and even the prices because of
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what everybody expects for next week that now would be
a much better and cheaper option if you were to
go to Sin City.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So two quick things, because again I want to get
everybody else's take, But one I think that was Brad Powers.
That has been one of his takes that I've seen
him put out that I agree with and other people
might feel that way. Last year, I was in Vegas
this week four the conference tournaments PAC twelve was going on,
so it felt like a little bit more of a
place to be. There's five six conference tournaments. But I
will tell you, as somebody who generally is in Vegas
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conference tournament week, I wouldn't say it's a quiet week,
but it's not a crazy week. Last year, on the
Friday of conference tournaments. I was at Circus Sportsbook. I
should probably be given them a plug whatever, but the
place was insane, And I think people are starting to
pick up on Hey, a little bit more affordable, a
little bit less kind of cliche. You know, I can't
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think of a holiday analogy. Everybody goes out on New
Year's Eve, but is it better to whatever? Like, I
think people are starting to realize, hey, this is actually
a really fun week to be in Vegas as well.
By the way, if you like basketball, you can actually
go to conference tournaments. But even if you're just sitting
in the sports book, it is just wall to wall
nine am to Sometimes you have games tipping off nine
you know, nine am Pacific neon Eastern. Sometimes you have
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games tipping off as late as midnight Eastern. It is
just a really fun time to sit in a sports
book if that's your sae.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So this is Christmas Sports Eve for Aaron Torres. It's
gonna be tough to sleep tonight, right, Oh yeah, knowing
that what tomorrow could we could bring.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
We're gonna have and you and I around from ten
to two am, so we get you know, think about tomorrow,
we'll have again all five conference sermons. It'll be one
of the some days a year. Five monitors in this
in this facility aren't gonna be at Four monitors in
this facility aren't gonna be enough.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And tomorrow night's gonna be one offul.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
We're gonna have to wheel some more in. This is
the tough part because I also know that you had
you had to dwindle it down. It's not six days.
There aren't six Christmas days. You had to pick one,
as you said, like you could have. You could have
picked the Thursday and Friday of next week where or
one of the two days because it's the first round
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of the NCAA tournament. I think that those are the
best days. I absolutely love those days. But you can
only pick one, though, correct And I'm gonna pick the
Thursday because there's that first game and it's usually like
it's either a six eleven or a three, fourteen, seven, ten, some.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Mountain West team is always playing. That's fun and.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Inevitably of the first three games, I usually have an
Elite eight team out and nobody cares about my bracket.
But what I love doing and I love being here,
and I feel that it is it is so great
because everybody's involved. Yes, I love and I'll get into
other sports things, so I'll just talk about this. I
love the different picks, the paths, and I don't want
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to say usually because I don't want to jinx it,
but there seems to be because those teams are seated
fairly closely, and if it's a six eleven game, maybe
it's a really high end mid major that got an
at large bid or at least won their conference tournament
and they're playing a team that's maybe a little iffy,
that's bordering outside of the top twenty five, and you
get a good game, and you could get a Cinderella.
It's that first that first day, even just that first
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wave of eight games. I absolutely love it. The feeling
I have that morning, as opposed to any other sports
day on the calendar is different. So while to tomorrow
is your Christmas sports eave, mine is a week from
tomorrow that's my Christmas sports day.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I think it's totally fair. And like you said, that
is one thing about the about the NCAA tournament. Everybody
has a bracket, everybody has interest, everybody makes the same
jokes about oh there, well, I guess I'm not getting
the perfect bracket this year, Dan, and you know had
Colorado State should have known better. Is it is a
really fun day. And by the way, really quickly just
because we again we can only pick one. So it's
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not as though I don't like the first Thursday the
NCAA tournament. It's just correct that's my preference. But yeah,
that first Thursday is awesome and there's definitely a vibe
in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I tell the story of that first day Ohio State.
This ended up Aaron Craft's last game, Ohio State Dayton
playing in a first round game. Dayton I think ended
up going to the Elite eight. That yes, this was
about twenty fourteen, and Ohio State loses on a buzzer
beater and I see our good held John Ramos on
the other side of the glass, jumping up and down
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and just cheering because Dayton is upset Ohio State and
someday and originally right that all is he not from Dayton.
I go to John because I was cheering for Ohio
State obviously not only for bracket purposes, but just of
being a fan. And I say to John and like,
how far did you have Dayton? And He's like, I'll
lose the next round.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I would rather put.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Our friendship at jeopardy and in peril for one point
in the NCAA tournament bracket. But so, but that's what
it does, That's what the day does. It's it's great,
Ryan Berschinger, do you have a Christmas sports Day?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
I do. I also love the first day of the tournament,
so I'm glad you spoke on that for the for
all the same reasons. I just think it's so much fun.
I will I will say opening day, and in Major
League Baseball, I think I took Isaac.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know if you did or not.
Speaker 9 (19:59):
No, I obviously it's people treat it like a holiday,
and I think that that's so cool. Baseball truly gets
the spotlight on that day, and it's also sort of
a return to normalcy for us who follow baseball pretty devoutly.
It's a following Baseball takes up a majority of our
life because of how long the season is, so that
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first day just getting to celebrate the return of baseball,
making a point of watching baseball. Granted, I don't think
the last couple of years some of the TV networks
have done as good of a job as giving as
many games as they should. Hopefully that changes, but overall, yeah,
that's a very special day in the sports.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Has it changed by not being on a Monday for you,
like that first week in April? That's where it was
for so long. Now it's on a Thursday. It's kind
of funky. As it changed at all to me? And
for me it has it completely has.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
It hasn't changed too much for me because still being
on a weekday, I think it still gives it that
same sort of level. If it was on like a Saturday,
it would feel really weird for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I remember how many National Championship games that
you would have on Opening Day. It'd be like, oh,
baseball starts that day in the National Championship game is
at night? Isaac Lowincron Do you have a sports Christmas Day?
Speaker 10 (21:19):
Technically this all occurs over a twenty nine hour span,
so I'm going to round it to one day. It's
Divisional Playoff weekend in the NFL. It seems as of
all the playoff weekends, not counting the Super Bowl because
that's just one game, but wild card, divisional playoff, conference
championship games, the Divisional playoff weekend set of games has
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always seemingly traditionally had the better quality matchups and better quality,
most exciting finishes across the board compared to the other
two weekends of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'll never forget a few years ago when you had
the Bengals upsetting the Titans on an Evan McPherson field
goal late in the game they win it. Then you
had the Niners go to Green Bay and go to
overtime and beat the Packers. Sorry Bursch and Sam, but
then you had an even better game with the Rams
beating the Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers came all the way back,
and then the Rams ended up winning. And then you
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had Bill's Chiefs in that thirteen second affair that we know,
each game that weekend just got better and better. It
was a football in nirvana. Iowa, Sam. I didn't mean
to pinch you for time you want to do it.
On the other side, I.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Would just say, yeah, absolutely, something March Madness related, or
maybe like the true week one of college football, or
maybe the start of conference playing college football. Okay, and
like I give you again, Sam gives us three and
I don't have it. I was just going to open
the phone lines seven nine to nine on Fox eight seven, seven, six, three,
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sixth nine.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
He can't help him. I can't one month's worth of days.
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the college basketball And what is Aaron Torres's Sports Christmas Day?
His best day of the year when it comes to
sports is tomorrow. We've had some great nominations. Isaac Lohenkron
bringing up the twenty nine hour sports period of mid
to late January now the Divisional playoff round in the NFL.
Ryan Bershing are a huge Opening Day fan. Let's go
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to Tony in Virginia, who's got his sports Christmas Day
already set Tony, Welcome to Covino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
How you doing hey, fellas, I'm doing fine. Thanks. Mine
is also the Thursday of March madness. You get sixteen
one and done in one day, and every four or
five years it's also Saint Patti's Day. Oh yes, you
can't go you cannot go wrong on that day.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That is a great, great observation, Like it's like a
bonus day. It's almost like the Olympics, like it just
comes around if it happens to land and the Thursday
is better than the Friday. There is something something sad
about the last games on Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
We've talked about this, Like you want to talk about
the best moments on the sports calendar, that's up for debate.
The worst moments on the sports calendar. The first game
on Saturday of the NCAA tournament when there's only one
game and you're like, well, where's.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The other games?
Speaker 6 (26:33):
And it's like, oh, there's only one this stupid noon
eastern tip off. How do we not have another game?
And then also waking up on the Elite eight Saturday,
when it's like you're just ready for any game you're
cause you're still getting multiple games in the Sweet sixteen.
Then you wake up on Elite eight Saturday, the games
don't start to like four pm.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
The technology that we have become accustomed to in the
tournament shines bright on that Elite eight Saturday, because there
isn't another score to watch on the screen that's going
on at the same time to be like I need
to turn over to TBS or I need to turn
over to TNT or True TV. It's all gone, and
all it is is just a scroll of the scores
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from the night before and the other game that's that day.
That's basically what it is.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That's another joke that everybody makes the first day of
the NCAA termin Oh guess I gotta.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Find True TV on the dial again. Where could it be?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
It's like, yeah, we've heard literally nine thousand people make
that joke in the last day or so. And then
of course when the True TV run ends, then it
becomes see you next year, True TV, good luck and
practical joke.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I feel they have a little bit more of a
footing now, but you are absolutely correct, because that's where
also with the first four end up, Yes, right on
True TV. I also think that True TV gets like
the earlier close window of games, so like on a Friday,
the games that will be going on are either going
to be on TBS, or TNT, like the last game
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of the day isn't going to be on true TV.
But I'm glad Tony and I are in lockstep. There
are great days of the NCAA Tournament. My favorite sporting
event is the Masters, Yes, but there's four days of it,
and honestly, for as great as Sunday is, because the
old saying, the Masters doesn't start until the back nine
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on Sunday. When it's over, it stinks. Sure when it's done,
like that night, you're just you know, like, man, now
I got to wait another year from this. And there's
a bit of a hangover on the Monday as well
from just being like, oh and now we got to
wait another year to see the great sights of Augusta National.
Saturday provides great moving day at the Masters. I was
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going to say the Thursday because it's the start of it,
but again, there's four days of the event, kind of
like the NCAA Tournament, and it just keeps on getting
better and better each day. It's tough the top for
me Day one of the NCAA Tournament just because ironically
I feel it's the high point of the actual bracket.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Well, you and I have talked about this not the
best day. No one's arguing it's the best day, but
one of the two of the more underrated days, Day
one and Day two of what they now call the
Open Championship, which I still call the British Open. Yes,
Dan Byer makes his cinnamon rolls. We've talked about that.
I know all about the cinnamon roles in the buyer household.
You make it for the neighbors, even the ones that
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play basketball until two in the morning. And no, I
but there's a lot of fun days on the sports calendar.
By the way, did anyone mention the first Thursday of
the NFL season banner night where it's like, oh my god,
football's back. No, I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No one has. And honestly, as I thought about the Masters,
and I thought about the opening of the NCAA tournament,
Week one of the NFL season has got a bunch
of different emotions to that point of where you are
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because when the games kickoff for us in California ten
o'clock in the morning, but one o'clock when all of
the games count, and when your Fantasy football box score
updates and changes, and you know you're playing fantasy football.
For real. You're not gonna watch your quarterback take a
snap at a preseason game and leave. There's something about it,
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There's something great about it. Justin's in South Dakota a
football thought on his mind. Justin, what's your sports Christmas Day?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Thanksgiving is my Christmas Day?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
Absolutely love it, guys. I just growing up. I go
out to Graham and Grandpa's house. You know, the turkey's
in nov and the aroma. You got football coming on.
I'm a Viking fan, so I am not a Lions
fan nor a Cowboys fan, but I love the tradition.
If it was grown Dog's Day, I could do that deal.
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I would wake up every morning, would be faint.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Justin, how old are you? If you don't mind me asking?
Speaker 11 (31:04):
I am forty seven?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay. So what was that Thanksgiving like for you? When
Randy Moss ripped the top off of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 11 (31:10):
Oh? My god, best average. I will never forget it.
I have a thirteen year old son and he's watched
the highlights one hundred times. Best day average.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh great, great nominee from Justin in South Dakota. He's right.
He probably saw the Vikings play the Lions from time
and again. But man late nineties Randy Moss. Yeah, it's
like three catches, one hundred and sixty yards and three
touchdowns in that game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
It was absurd underrated time on the college basketball calendar
calendar as well, So could have a second third screen
battle for Atlantis. I'm just throwing it out there for
just and you had the Egg Bowl, but yeah, you know,
and then there's there's the day after.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But again we're not talking about the day after, but
there is anticipation afterwards, which helps.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, first of all, but you know what you talk
about underrated sports days Black Friday and before this was
even before the NFL. You get random college football games,
but everybody's chilling.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You're kind of out, but you're kind of not out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
You know, like I don't know what you guys do
as a family on Black Friday, but you know, you know,
as you know, I go out to Vegas with my
mom where she has her house, and it's kind of
a day where everybody's around, but you know, maybe he
bounce out to a late brunch because you know, you
don't want you're tired of eating leftovers, and there's just
a game on Black Friday is a very underrated sports
day on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I am a we gotta do a we gotta do
a worst sports day because I think everybody thinks all
middle of summer, after the All Star break, and it's
really not that it's not that bad at that point.
There are other days where you have withdrawal or something
just doesn't live up to it. I don't know, maybe
even tomorrow night we'll get together.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
I was gonna say, as much of a college basketball
fan as I am, the Sunday between conference championships in
Super Bowl where they're trying to push the Pro Bowl
on us but nobody's into the Pro doesn't really work
except by the way this was. This was the week
this year that Luca got traded, so that helped with
that void.
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I think at that point the season is getting so long,
and if your team's not in it, I'm just like,
all right, I'll just go for the party. Yeah, that
doesn't say as much as it does, but the Saint
Patty's Day with the first day of the tournament and
Thanksgiving and football seemed to work.
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dot com studio. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer in
for the guys, kind of wrapping up our sports holiday,
greatest sports day of the year. Aaron Torres is tomorrow.
He's not gonna be able to sleep tonight, so excited
for all of the college hoops action. I'll tell you what.
(34:16):
Brad LaRue tweets in with a great recommendation and one
that I think is going to make all of us
here sad new Year's Day used to be one of
the best sports days of the year, with all of
the college bowl games, Like what a great day that
was from front to back. Still home to college football
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playoff games, home to the Rose Bowl, but not what
it once was. Heck, the Winter Classic they even moved
off of New Year's Day, a great recommendation of oh
what could have been and what used to be.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I think it was better. I still think it's good.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
First of all, I could be wrong on this, but
as they kind of shuffle around this college football playoff,
I think there's even talk that the Rose Bowl isn't necessary.
Either it's going to be out of the rotation or
it's not going to be on New Year's Day anymore.
So you talk about something that takes that to an
even another level. I will say that is the one
day where it feels like everybody is locked in on
college football.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Deeper you get into.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
January, it's another conversation for another day, maybe even tomorrow.
But deeper you get into January, the more it seems
to skew towards the NFL. But college football is always
going to be uh January.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But here's here's the other another dirty, little secret is
the Rose Bowl moving isn't new. When January first is
on a Sunday, it's the NFL's Day. They'll move the
Rose Bowl to January second and all of all of
the bowl games and the NFL takes it over. But
there was a point where New Year's Day was in
this year we had well we didn't have the Tripleheader
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because of the happenings in New Orleans unfortunately, but you
would have had Texas, Arizona State, Oregon, Ohio State, and
then Joy Notre Dame. But I felt like at the
time when you could go from Gator Bowl to Outback Bowl,
to Citrus Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the
Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl, like it was all there
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and that was January one and those games, and it
was it was a different It was such a different
feel because now all of the games mean something because
of where they are in the bracket, but just the
variety of different games. There was so much pride in
winning your bowl game that just isn't there anymore. That's
why it's such a great recommendation by Brad of what
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could have been and what could be and it's never
going to be that way. Again unfortunately never going to
be that way again.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
And college football.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
You know, this is not a March conversation, but college
football I think is going too far sideways. Nothing probably
better epitomizes that than what does and doesn't matter on
January one.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
But but yeah, it was a great support stage.
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the other point that I would make of why college
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football has gone off the rails, and I feel a
little I feel a little dirty in saying this because
Rich Davis sits in your chair, But I think you
would agree with me. So Syracuse plays tonight in the
ACC Tournament. I don't know anything that happened to Syracuse
this year in college basket.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
How about this because I looked it up yesterday, sixteen
years ago. Today, maybe the greatest champ Week game ever
that I was at the six overtime.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Game sixteen years ago today.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Wow, and I was there, and I actually Syracuse was
a Yukon rival. I'm a ukond of lum for people
who don't know. And it's gone from even though they
don't play, it's gone from we don't like them to
just kind of feel bad for him. I'll say this
really quick. That is an incredible place to watch a
game when that team is good. You know, if we
ever do our programs that we want to see back
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on top, I would say Syracuse is towards the top
of that list because thirty six thousand people at the
Carrier Dome is unlike anything else in college basketball.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And it's kind of sad.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't want to say the fall from their greatness
to what they were in the later Beehim years and
they were bubble teams, but there were still they go
to a Final four as a ten seed what decade
ago or you know, whatever it was. You know they
had runs in them, but you felt that that was
the bottom. Oh yeah, and now you're playing SMU tonight
in a game where you're an underdog and you're a
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fourteen and eighteen squad. I'll tell you of what what
could have been. You mentioned football, like it's the race
of football. So Syracuse joins the ACC because guess what,
it's better for football. I don't know if it was
for Syracuse. I know Jim Beheim, which is things were different,
but he's no longer there.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
And by the way, conference tournament in North Carolina not
moving the needle like it did in New York City.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
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Let's get this bad boy rolling with conference tournament? Shall we?
Erin Torres?
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Oh, you're speaking my language? What do they say? Talk
dirty to me?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
Dan?
Speaker 5 (01:00):
Hell?
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Yeah, give me a little meek. We've got Southland right now,
We've got a ten.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
We've got Southeastern Conference I think we're smack dab in
the middle of the Southland. Yeah, yeah, south He's in Lamar.
Is this gonna be Will Wade's final conference game McNee Yes,
I believe. So what's also incredible, And I'm not here
to judge. The game is on.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
Mcneese's home court, and they don't have a full house.
I'm not here to judge, but you think they'd get
a little bit of a better crowd.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
It's on their home court. So Wednesday maybe weather. You know,
we've got weather here in southern California. I don't know
what it's like on the other side of the country.
Speaker 6 (01:38):
But that's why I don't want to be critical, because
I've been told that there McNeese is in Lake Charles,
Louisiana for people who do not know, and I've been
told that that area in general, because of hurricanes, is
the population is kind of dwindled. So I don't know,
but I mean the arena is still there, So again,
I don't I don't want to be too critical.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I'm just I'm just just observing.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
I'll tell you what. Some of these crowds are, these
neutral site ones, And I know that your point of
this is a home site, neutral site, you can maybe
understand why Lesal and UMass aren't packing the joint. I
don't even know where the A ten tournament is right now.
Speaker 6 (02:11):
I don't either. It wasn't Atlantic City for a long time.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
That's in DC. I can see actually small on the court,
so you can't make the trip down from Philadelphia to
watch an eight thirteen and eighteen LaSalle squad play Ran
Duntfee retiring really quickly.
Speaker 6 (02:27):
I know, I just criticized the crowded McNees. I was
watching the NEC championship game last night. Saint Francis just
broke the heart of my Central Connecticut Blue Devils. But
the game was at Central Connecticut's home gym. More small
conferences should go for the higher seed host the championship game.
In my opinion, well, great environment.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
Well as we determine what is the greatest day of
the sporting calendar, it does allow us to bring in Iowa. Sam,
because this is something you and Doug Gottlieb have talked
about over the last couple of days. You've talked about
out the conference tournaments. You just give us your stance, Sam,
(03:06):
Just so I don't put words in your mouth, but
I know, Doug is also brought up that he feels
that home court should be more utilized in conference tournaments,
but also you're kind of back and forth started with
your point of the conference tournament anyway, correct.
Speaker 7 (03:19):
Yeah, last week I said to Doug, you know, with
some of these one bid leagues there, you know that
they're not going to get any at large. You know,
MVC all the way, the NAK, the MIAC, the SWAK,
all of those league.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You say, swack.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Teacher wears when she's teaching class.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Or the smock. I've never heard of SWAK. I don't know, yes,
but I know what you mean. I've heard of the
mag the Metro Atlantic.
Speaker 7 (03:49):
Is that the one with the Manhattan Jaspers? And yeah,
that I think has my favorite nicknames of any college
basketball league is that one.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
You have Hairfield Stags, you.
Speaker 7 (03:57):
Have the Canisiuses whatever they are, the like the Golden Griffins,
and it just has excellent nicknames.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
The Jaspers.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Did you did you notice the Saint Thomas Tommy's in
the Summit Championship game the other day against the Omaha
First of all, Omaha Mavericks is actually a pretty it
sounds like a like a UFL name.
Speaker 7 (04:15):
Yes, it sounds like a team from any given Sunday exactly.
My I guess I kind of reeled this take back
a little bit. My original take was that for these
one bid leagues, the NCAA tournament bid should go to
the regular season champion and get rid of the conference
tournaments completely. And I know, and I don't know if
I even agree with that myself my own take because
(04:36):
I love conference tournament time. But is there something like
where you have in the final of the CAAA Championship.
Is that the Colonial Athletic Association the CIA. Yes, yes,
you had the Delaware Blue Hens taking on the UNC
Wilmington Seahawks game, but yes, and UNC Wilmington pulled it
(04:56):
out seventy six to seventy two yesterday. But you had
a Delaware team with a sixteen and twenty overall record
and a five and thirteen CAA record with a chance
to get to the nca tournament. And I'm like, don't
when you only have one bid the team that has
the best regular season in conference. Don't even give the
teams like Delaware a seat at the table. Well, because yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Game that I just referenced, Central Connecticut twenty five and
seven overall fourteen and two in the league, won the
league by two games. Saint Francis with the win last night,
improves to sixteen and seventeen and gets the automatic bids.
Speaker 7 (05:31):
And I'm not against keeping. I'm either against the either
go with my most radical take, which was just get
rid of the conference tournament, which.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
By the way, then just let me stop you. This
is what you brought up with Doug, and Doug's counterpoint,
which I think we all understand, is these conference tournaments
and putting the games at ESPN are the only ways
for these conferences to make like get the money.
Speaker 7 (05:53):
So that's why I wanted to reel back my original take, like, Okay,
don't get rid of the tournament altogether. Maybe just allow
teams from those one bid leagues who have a winning
record in conference all the way up to the champion
of the regular season.
Speaker 6 (06:06):
Can I give you a pseudo compromise that won't happen,
but should go for it. If we expand the NCAA
tournament beyond sixty eight teams, which we shouldn't, all those
bids should not go to the fourteenth place team in
the Big Ten or the thirteenth place team in the SEC,
like make the field of sixty eight those last. If
we're gonna add bids, give them to regular season champions from.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
Who got knocked out in the conference journey.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Yes, that won't happen because again we're expanding to get
more big brands and more Big ten and SEC and
ACC in.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
But that's what should happen. Well also, and I agree
with you because I've said the same thing. I think
it adds a lot to it. You can't you can't
judge each year on how many of those teams are
going to be in. So, like in terms of knocked out,
like if you were to have four at large bids
and then set aside four spots, do you do it?
Do you do it as like a bid Steelers sort
of deal? Is it only one team that ends up
(07:00):
getting knocked out? So then would they have to play
a Texas team? Or like how would it work? I don't,
I don't. I don't know how the whole process would
work out because you could have you gonna be you
already had maybe nine teams get knocked out, and now
you only have eight spots to fill. So that would
be the tricky tricky portion of it. So and By
the way, if you're tousand who is knocked out by
(07:23):
by Delaware and you lose to UNC Wilmington, I don't
know if that's like you should get into the tournament
then like UNC Wilmington was the two seed, so they
win the conference tournament, they beat the top seed. Like
in essence, so now you're gonna allow the Colonial Athletic
Association to get two teams in the tournament, Like I
feel like like that that would be the only rub
(07:46):
against it as well, like they're gonna be well represented
by the second best team or you know that they
had throughout the year and that's not too shabby.
Speaker 7 (07:54):
Yeah, I think my point in all this is to
avoid is to get the best teams from those one
bid leagues, whether it's like the top what if top
three seeds, top four sees get them in the NC
tournament and not even like in the Big Ten now,
just because it's so bloated with eighteen teams, Iowa and
Nebraska had to fight it out in the final game
of the regular season just for Iowa to become the
fifteen seed, the final seat, the final team in the
(08:15):
Big Ten. But I think that you know, we're never
We're not gonna get rid of conference tournaments, like, don't
do that, But I want to make it reward the
regular season champion as much as possible, So have them
not play until the semi finals, reward them with if
it's well the Sun Belts Conference weighted baggered, yes, and
West Coast Conference has done it forever. And make it
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as hard as possible for those really bottom dwelling teams
in those one bid leagues to make it all the
way and get an NC Tournament bid.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
So quote our friend Shack Sun Belt, I was not
familiar with your game. The one in two seeds got
the quintuple buy into either what was it the semis
I believe, yes, five rounds until they had to play.
Speaker 3 (08:57):
And not only that, I think they've both lost.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
I know South Alabama was the one seed and they did.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
And so so I think you had the three to
four matchup in the Sun Belt and and I'm actually
just bringing it up right here. It's just taking me
forever because sun And when you're scrolling through the standings
is all the way at the bottom. Yeah, because you
had South Alabama, James Madison, Arkansas State and Troy Troy
ends up getting the automatic bid, they go to the
(09:24):
to the dance. But yeah, it was like a bowling tournament.
That's how you do bowling tournaments. You just go one
to the next and the next, and if you're the
lowest seed and you can beat everybody, you moved on.
But even the double by there didn't help. It's also
crazy because here you had a four way tie, so
two teams actually had to play an extra game despite
having they were in a four way tie. Where if
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you had a four way tie in the big ten,
the top the standings, it doesn't matter. Everybody gets a
buy to the you know, to the quarterfinals. At least
this actually made it even weirder. But yeah, the Sun
Belt had crazy, crazy bracket, but it is to protect
everyone else. I think that a bigger conversation to have
at some point Erin and I actually going to be
in tomorrow Mike Harmon and Jason Smith going to be
(10:07):
in the spot for Covino and Rich and you and
I are going to be in Jason and Mike's spot,
so we could talk more about it tomorrow night, because
I think there is a conversation to have as well.
I think there's a conversation as well of why top
seeded teams even need to be in the conference tournaments.
If you're in the SEC, I know there's a lot
to play for with no.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Id to me to cut you up.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
This has been a big conversation in SEC Land this
week of like, is it actually not good to win
the conference tournament? Is it better to get knocked out
on like Friday and get two extra days rest than
if say you're Kentucky and you'd have to play Alabama
and then all Burn to win a championships.
Speaker 3 (10:44):
And I feel that there's there's not as much weight
on the conference tournament as there used to be. Remember
when we would always think like, oh, this run to
the finals has allowed this team and that would get
the bracket. And nowadays we're like, well that didn't matter
at all, let's team beat that team. Seems like things
were already set. I don't think it's got as big
of a picture.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I'll tell you this. That'll be a fun conversation for
us on Sunday. Is you and I are while I'm
filling in for Kerry Rhodes on Sunday. But you know,
three number one seeds are set in stone, and it
feels like the fourth number one seed. Whoever gets it,
whether it's Alabama, Florida, Tennessee out of the SEC, or
Michigan State out of the Big Ten, they're going to
be playing on Sunday. And so it's like the big
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thing of everybody just it's kind of been a default
talking point of like the bracket kind of gets set
on Saturday night and what happens on Sunday doesn't matter,
and the committee always says that it doesn't. Well, you know,
if Michigan State loses and gets the fourth number one
seed over an SEC team or something to that manner,
I think that'll only be a bigger picture conversation comes Sunday.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Here's and I'm I'm not as against expanding the tournament.
I wouldn't say I'm for it, but it doesn't bother
me if they expanded it to seventy six. I think
there's ways that you can make it work. The point
of the Conference champions we just brought up the Sunbay
If you wanted to give the Sun Belt regular season
champ an opportunity to play in that game, how the
heck do you do it with a four way tie?
Speaker 8 (12:09):
You know?
Speaker 3 (12:09):
Like that? Like that that's another way to. I'd love
to make it where everybody's happy, but it's just it's difficult.
You're a happy guy because of the time of year
that we are in. I love talking about sports calendar.
And the reason I talk about sports calendar so much
is I think sports fans lives are run by their
sports calendar, no doubt. And maybe when you have kids
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it's by their little league schedules. But you know when
it's football season, you know when it's baseball season, and
you know when it's March, and it's March madness, and
we are in the thick of it right now, smack
dab in the middle of the month. And Aaron Torres,
this is your time of year. If you are ranking
all of the sports that you have a passion for,
you obviously cover college basketball. College hoops has got to
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be number one on top of the list. Is this
your Christmas Day? What is your Christmas Day? Your most
fake favorite sports day of the entire sports calendar?
Speaker 6 (13:03):
So today is actually my Christmas Eve. Dan, So first
of all, let me say this and I'll be quick
because I want to get everybody else's opinion on this.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
This narrative has switched.
Speaker 6 (13:12):
I feel like in the last I was arguing eight
nine years ago that the Conference championship week is actually
better than the first weekend of the NCAA tournament. You
get more games with more good teams. They all know
each other. So if Duke's the number one seed next week,
you know you could get Duke three times this weekend
against North Carolina and then against Louisville and then against whoever.
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You don't get that in the first and second round.
So I love this week. But I will tell you
this I believe, well, it's just my opinion.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
My favorite day on.
Speaker 6 (13:42):
The sports calendar is Thursday of Conference Championship Week. Every
big conference is going because of the way the by
structure works, everybody is playing on that Thursday. The SEC
in the Big ten not so much. But you get
all the big conferences for four straight windows. Everybody has
four straight windows, whether it's quarterfinals, whether it's like the
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first round into the quarterfinals. So you're gonna wake up
on Thursday and at noon Eastern the SEC, ACC, Big Ten,
Big twelve, Big East are all going to be playing
at the exact same time, and we're gonna have four
straight windows of that all day on.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Thursday, I think I saw at Sweed. It may have
been Brad Powers, It may have been Steve Fezik, I
can't remember who it was, may have been Todd Furman,
a friend of the network. But they said that to
what you said to being in Las Vegas. Oh yeah,
next weekend isn't the weekend to be in Las Vegas.
Now is the time to be in Las Vegas for
the amount of games and even the prices because of
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what everybody expects for next week that now would be
a much better and cheaper option if you were to
go to Sin City.
Speaker 6 (14:46):
So two quick things, because again I want to get
everybody else's take, But one I think that was Brad Powers.
That has been one of his takes that I've seen
him put out that I agree with and other people
might feel that way. Last year, I was in Vegas
this week four the conference tournaments PAC twelve was going on,
so it felt like a little bit more of a
place to be. There's five six conference tournaments. But I
will tell you, as somebody who generally is in Vegas
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conference tournament week, I wouldn't say it's a quiet week,
but it's not a crazy week. Last year, on the
Friday of conference tournaments. I was at Circus Sportsbook. I
should probably be given them a plug whatever, but the
place was insane, And I think people are starting to
pick up on Hey, a little bit more affordable, a
little bit less kind of cliche. You know, I can't
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think of a holiday analogy. Everybody goes out on New
Year's Eve, but is it better to whatever? Like, I
think people are starting to realize, hey, this is actually
a really fun week to be in Vegas as well.
By the way, if you like basketball, you can actually
go to conference tournaments. But even if you're just sitting
in the sports book, it is just wall to wall
nine am to Sometimes you have games tipping off nine
you know, nine am Pacific neon Eastern. Sometimes you have
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games tipping off as late as midnight Eastern. It is
just a really fun time to sit in a sports
book if that's your sae.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
So this is Christmas Sports Eve for Aaron Torres. It's
gonna be tough to sleep tonight, right, Oh yeah, knowing
that what tomorrow could we could bring.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
We're gonna have and you and I around from ten
to two am, so we get you know, think about tomorrow,
we'll have again all five conference sermons. It'll be one
of the some days a year. Five monitors in this
in this facility aren't gonna be at Four monitors in
this facility aren't gonna be enough.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
And tomorrow night's gonna be one offul.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
We're gonna have to wheel some more in. This is
the tough part because I also know that you had
you had to dwindle it down. It's not six days.
There aren't six Christmas days. You had to pick one,
as you said, like you could have. You could have
picked the Thursday and Friday of next week where or
one of the two days because it's the first round
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of the NCAA tournament. I think that those are the
best days. I absolutely love those days. But you can
only pick one, though, correct And I'm gonna pick the
Thursday because there's that first game and it's usually like
it's either a six eleven or a three, fourteen, seven, ten, some.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
Mountain West team is always playing. That's fun and.
Speaker 3 (17:09):
Inevitably of the first three games, I usually have an
Elite eight team out and nobody cares about my bracket.
But what I love doing and I love being here,
and I feel that it is it is so great
because everybody's involved. Yes, I love and I'll get into
other sports things, so I'll just talk about this. I
love the different picks, the paths, and I don't want
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to say usually because I don't want to jinx it,
but there seems to be because those teams are seated
fairly closely, and if it's a six eleven game, maybe
it's a really high end mid major that got an
at large bid or at least won their conference tournament
and they're playing a team that's maybe a little iffy,
that's bordering outside of the top twenty five, and you
get a good game, and you could get a Cinderella.
It's that first that first day, even just that first
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wave of eight games. I absolutely love it. The feeling
I have that morning, as opposed to any other sports
day on the calendar is different. So while to tomorrow
is your Christmas sports eave, mine is a week from
tomorrow that's my Christmas sports day.
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I think it's totally fair. And like you said, that
is one thing about the about the NCAA tournament. Everybody
has a bracket, everybody has interest, everybody makes the same
jokes about oh there, well, I guess I'm not getting
the perfect bracket this year, Dan, and you know had
Colorado State should have known better. Is it is a
really fun day. And by the way, really quickly just
because we again we can only pick one. So it's
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not as though I don't like the first Thursday the
NCAA tournament. It's just correct that's my preference. But yeah,
that first Thursday is awesome and there's definitely a vibe
in the air.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
I tell the story of that first day Ohio State.
This ended up Aaron Craft's last game, Ohio State Dayton
playing in a first round game. Dayton I think ended
up going to the Elite eight. That yes, this was
about twenty fourteen, and Ohio State loses on a buzzer
beater and I see our good held John Ramos on
the other side of the glass, jumping up and down
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and just cheering because Dayton is upset Ohio State and
someday and originally right that all is he not from Dayton.
I go to John because I was cheering for Ohio
State obviously not only for bracket purposes, but just of
being a fan. And I say to John and like,
how far did you have Dayton? And He's like, I'll
lose the next round.
Speaker 4 (19:25):
I would rather put.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
Our friendship at jeopardy and in peril for one point
in the NCAA tournament bracket. But so, but that's what
it does, That's what the day does. It's it's great,
Ryan Berschinger, do you have a Christmas sports Day?
Speaker 9 (19:41):
I do. I also love the first day of the tournament,
so I'm glad you spoke on that for the for
all the same reasons. I just think it's so much fun.
I will I will say opening day, and in Major
League Baseball, I think I took Isaac.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know if you did or not.
Speaker 9 (19:59):
No, I obviously it's people treat it like a holiday,
and I think that that's so cool. Baseball truly gets
the spotlight on that day, and it's also sort of
a return to normalcy for us who follow baseball pretty devoutly.
It's a following Baseball takes up a majority of our
life because of how long the season is, so that
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first day just getting to celebrate the return of baseball,
making a point of watching baseball. Granted, I don't think
the last couple of years some of the TV networks
have done as good of a job as giving as
many games as they should. Hopefully that changes, but overall, yeah,
that's a very special day in the sports.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Has it changed by not being on a Monday for you,
like that first week in April? That's where it was
for so long. Now it's on a Thursday. It's kind
of funky. As it changed at all to me? And
for me it has it completely has.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
It hasn't changed too much for me because still being
on a weekday, I think it still gives it that
same sort of level. If it was on like a Saturday,
it would feel really weird for sure.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Yeah. Yeah, I remember how many National Championship games that
you would have on Opening Day. It'd be like, oh,
baseball starts that day in the National Championship game is
at night? Isaac Lowincron Do you have a sports Christmas Day?
Speaker 10 (21:19):
Technically this all occurs over a twenty nine hour span,
so I'm going to round it to one day. It's
Divisional Playoff weekend in the NFL. It seems as of
all the playoff weekends, not counting the Super Bowl because
that's just one game, but wild card, divisional playoff, conference
championship games, the Divisional playoff weekend set of games has
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always seemingly traditionally had the better quality matchups and better quality,
most exciting finishes across the board compared to the other
two weekends of the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I'll never forget a few years ago when you had
the Bengals upsetting the Titans on an Evan McPherson field
goal late in the game they win it. Then you
had the Niners go to Green Bay and go to
overtime and beat the Packers. Sorry Bursch and Sam, but
then you had an even better game with the Rams
beating the Buccaneers, and the Buccaneers came all the way back,
and then the Rams ended up winning. And then you
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had Bill's Chiefs in that thirteen second affair that we know,
each game that weekend just got better and better. It
was a football in nirvana. Iowa, Sam. I didn't mean
to pinch you for time you want to do it.
On the other side, I.
Speaker 7 (22:29):
Would just say, yeah, absolutely, something March Madness related, or
maybe like the true week one of college football, or
maybe the start of conference playing college football. Okay, and
like I give you again, Sam gives us three and
I don't have it. I was just going to open
the phone lines seven nine to nine on Fox eight seven, seven, six, three,
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sixth nine.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
He can't help him. I can't one month's worth of days.
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the college basketball And what is Aaron Torres's Sports Christmas Day?
His best day of the year when it comes to
sports is tomorrow. We've had some great nominations. Isaac Lohenkron
bringing up the twenty nine hour sports period of mid
to late January now the Divisional playoff round in the NFL.
Ryan Bershing are a huge Opening Day fan. Let's go
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to Tony in Virginia, who's got his sports Christmas Day
already set Tony, Welcome to Covino and Rich.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
How you doing hey, fellas, I'm doing fine. Thanks. Mine
is also the Thursday of March madness. You get sixteen
one and done in one day, and every four or
five years it's also Saint Patti's Day. Oh yes, you
can't go you cannot go wrong on that day.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
That is a great, great observation, Like it's like a
bonus day. It's almost like the Olympics, like it just
comes around if it happens to land and the Thursday
is better than the Friday. There is something something sad
about the last games on Friday.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
No doubt.
Speaker 6 (26:18):
We've talked about this, Like you want to talk about
the best moments on the sports calendar, that's up for debate.
The worst moments on the sports calendar. The first game
on Saturday of the NCAA tournament when there's only one
game and you're like, well, where's.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The other games?
Speaker 6 (26:33):
And it's like, oh, there's only one this stupid noon
eastern tip off. How do we not have another game?
And then also waking up on the Elite eight Saturday,
when it's like you're just ready for any game you're
cause you're still getting multiple games in the Sweet sixteen.
Then you wake up on Elite eight Saturday, the games
don't start to like four pm.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
The technology that we have become accustomed to in the
tournament shines bright on that Elite eight Saturday, because there
isn't another score to watch on the screen that's going
on at the same time to be like I need
to turn over to TBS or I need to turn
over to TNT or True TV. It's all gone, and
all it is is just a scroll of the scores
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from the night before and the other game that's that day.
That's basically what it is.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
That's another joke that everybody makes the first day of
the NCAA termin Oh guess I gotta.
Speaker 4 (27:26):
Find True TV on the dial again. Where could it be?
Speaker 6 (27:29):
It's like, yeah, we've heard literally nine thousand people make
that joke in the last day or so. And then
of course when the True TV run ends, then it
becomes see you next year, True TV, good luck and
practical joke.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I feel they have a little bit more of a
footing now, but you are absolutely correct, because that's where
also with the first four end up, Yes, right on
True TV. I also think that True TV gets like
the earlier close window of games, so like on a Friday,
the games that will be going on are either going
to be on TBS, or TNT, like the last game
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of the day isn't going to be on true TV.
But I'm glad Tony and I are in lockstep. There
are great days of the NCAA Tournament. My favorite sporting
event is the Masters, Yes, but there's four days of it,
and honestly, for as great as Sunday is, because the
old saying, the Masters doesn't start until the back nine
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on Sunday. When it's over, it stinks. Sure when it's done,
like that night, you're just you know, like, man, now
I got to wait another year from this. And there's
a bit of a hangover on the Monday as well
from just being like, oh and now we got to
wait another year to see the great sights of Augusta National.
Saturday provides great moving day at the Masters. I was
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going to say the Thursday because it's the start of it,
but again, there's four days of the event, kind of
like the NCAA Tournament, and it just keeps on getting
better and better each day. It's tough the top for
me Day one of the NCAA Tournament just because ironically
I feel it's the high point of the actual bracket.
Speaker 6 (29:02):
Well, you and I have talked about this not the
best day. No one's arguing it's the best day, but
one of the two of the more underrated days, Day
one and Day two of what they now call the
Open Championship, which I still call the British Open. Yes,
Dan Byer makes his cinnamon rolls. We've talked about that.
I know all about the cinnamon roles in the buyer household.
You make it for the neighbors, even the ones that
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play basketball until two in the morning. And no, I
but there's a lot of fun days on the sports calendar.
By the way, did anyone mention the first Thursday of
the NFL season banner night where it's like, oh my god,
football's back. No, I don't think anybody did.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
No one has. And honestly, as I thought about the Masters,
and I thought about the opening of the NCAA tournament,
Week one of the NFL season has got a bunch
of different emotions to that point of where you are
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because when the games kickoff for us in California ten
o'clock in the morning, but one o'clock when all of
the games count, and when your Fantasy football box score
updates and changes, and you know you're playing fantasy football.
For real. You're not gonna watch your quarterback take a
snap at a preseason game and leave. There's something about it,
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There's something great about it. Justin's in South Dakota a
football thought on his mind. Justin, what's your sports Christmas Day?
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Well?
Speaker 11 (30:28):
Thanksgiving is my Christmas Day?
Speaker 4 (30:30):
Oh wow, I.
Speaker 11 (30:33):
Absolutely love it, guys. I just growing up. I go
out to Graham and Grandpa's house. You know, the turkey's
in nov and the aroma. You got football coming on.
I'm a Viking fan, so I am not a Lions
fan nor a Cowboys fan, but I love the tradition.
If it was grown Dog's Day, I could do that deal.
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I would wake up every morning, would be faint.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Justin, how old are you? If you don't mind me asking?
Speaker 11 (31:04):
I am forty seven?
Speaker 3 (31:05):
Okay. So what was that Thanksgiving like for you? When
Randy Moss ripped the top off of the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 11 (31:10):
Oh? My god, best average. I will never forget it.
I have a thirteen year old son and he's watched
the highlights one hundred times. Best day average.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh great, great nominee from Justin in South Dakota. He's right.
He probably saw the Vikings play the Lions from time
and again. But man late nineties Randy Moss. Yeah, it's
like three catches, one hundred and sixty yards and three
touchdowns in that game against the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (31:39):
It was absurd underrated time on the college basketball calendar
calendar as well, So could have a second third screen
battle for Atlantis. I'm just throwing it out there for
just and you had the Egg Bowl, but yeah, you know,
and then there's there's the day after.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
But again we're not talking about the day after, but
there is anticipation afterwards, which helps.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Yeah, first of all, but you know what you talk
about underrated sports days Black Friday and before this was
even before the NFL. You get random college football games,
but everybody's chilling.
Speaker 4 (32:07):
You're kind of out, but you're kind of not out.
Speaker 6 (32:10):
You know, like I don't know what you guys do
as a family on Black Friday, but you know, you know,
as you know, I go out to Vegas with my
mom where she has her house, and it's kind of
a day where everybody's around, but you know, maybe he
bounce out to a late brunch because you know, you
don't want you're tired of eating leftovers, and there's just
a game on Black Friday is a very underrated sports
day on the calendar.
Speaker 3 (32:30):
I am a we gotta do a we gotta do
a worst sports day because I think everybody thinks all
middle of summer, after the All Star break, and it's
really not that it's not that bad at that point.
There are other days where you have withdrawal or something
just doesn't live up to it. I don't know, maybe
even tomorrow night we'll get together.
Speaker 6 (32:48):
I was gonna say, as much of a college basketball
fan as I am, the Sunday between conference championships in
Super Bowl where they're trying to push the Pro Bowl
on us but nobody's into the Pro doesn't really work
except by the way this was. This was the week
this year that Luca got traded, so that helped with
that void.
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I think at that point the season is getting so long,
and if your team's not in it, I'm just like,
all right, I'll just go for the party. Yeah, that
doesn't say as much as it does, but the Saint
Patty's Day with the first day of the tournament and
Thanksgiving and football seemed to work.
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It's Covino and Ritch. Here at Fox Sports Radio Liveforthetirack
dot com studio. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer in
for the guys, kind of wrapping up our sports holiday,
greatest sports day of the year. Aaron Torres is tomorrow.
He's not gonna be able to sleep tonight, so excited
for all of the college hoops action. I'll tell you what.
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Brad LaRue tweets in with a great recommendation and one
that I think is going to make all of us
here sad new Year's Day used to be one of
the best sports days of the year, with all of
the college bowl games, Like what a great day that
was from front to back. Still home to college football
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playoff games, home to the Rose Bowl, but not what
it once was. Heck, the Winter Classic they even moved
off of New Year's Day, a great recommendation of oh
what could have been and what used to be.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
I think it was better. I still think it's good.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
First of all, I could be wrong on this, but
as they kind of shuffle around this college football playoff,
I think there's even talk that the Rose Bowl isn't necessary.
Either it's going to be out of the rotation or
it's not going to be on New Year's Day anymore.
So you talk about something that takes that to an
even another level. I will say that is the one
day where it feels like everybody is locked in on
college football.
Speaker 4 (35:19):
Deeper you get into.
Speaker 6 (35:20):
January, it's another conversation for another day, maybe even tomorrow.
But deeper you get into January, the more it seems
to skew towards the NFL. But college football is always
going to be uh January.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
But here's here's the other another dirty, little secret is
the Rose Bowl moving isn't new. When January first is
on a Sunday, it's the NFL's Day. They'll move the
Rose Bowl to January second and all of all of
the bowl games and the NFL takes it over. But
there was a point where New Year's Day was in
this year we had well we didn't have the Tripleheader
(35:52):
because of the happenings in New Orleans unfortunately, but you
would have had Texas, Arizona State, Oregon, Ohio State, and
then Joy Notre Dame. But I felt like at the
time when you could go from Gator Bowl to Outback Bowl,
to Citrus Bowl, the Fiesta Bowl, the Rose Bowl, the
Sugar Bowl, the Orange Bowl, like it was all there
(36:13):
and that was January one and those games, and it
was it was a different It was such a different
feel because now all of the games mean something because
of where they are in the bracket, but just the
variety of different games. There was so much pride in
winning your bowl game that just isn't there anymore. That's
why it's such a great recommendation by Brad of what
(36:35):
could have been and what could be and it's never
going to be that way. Again unfortunately never going to
be that way again.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
And college football.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
You know, this is not a March conversation, but college
football I think is going too far sideways. Nothing probably
better epitomizes that than what does and doesn't matter on
January one.
Speaker 4 (36:57):
But but yeah, it was a great support stage.
Speaker 3 (37:00):
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it is Cavino and Rich. He's erin Torres. I'm Dan
Byer live from the tirec dot com studios. You know
the other point that I would make of why college
(37:22):
football has gone off the rails, and I feel a
little I feel a little dirty in saying this because
Rich Davis sits in your chair, But I think you
would agree with me. So Syracuse plays tonight in the
ACC Tournament. I don't know anything that happened to Syracuse
this year in college basket.
Speaker 6 (37:39):
How about this because I looked it up yesterday, sixteen
years ago. Today, maybe the greatest champ Week game ever
that I was at the six overtime.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
Game sixteen years ago today.
Speaker 6 (37:49):
Wow, and I was there, and I actually Syracuse was
a Yukon rival. I'm a ukond of lum for people
who don't know. And it's gone from even though they
don't play, it's gone from we don't like them to
just kind of feel bad for him. I'll say this
really quick. That is an incredible place to watch a
game when that team is good. You know, if we
ever do our programs that we want to see back
(38:12):
on top, I would say Syracuse is towards the top
of that list because thirty six thousand people at the
Carrier Dome is unlike anything else in college basketball.
Speaker 4 (38:19):
And it's kind of sad.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I don't want to say the fall from their greatness
to what they were in the later Beehim years and
they were bubble teams, but there were still they go
to a Final four as a ten seed what decade
ago or you know, whatever it was. You know they
had runs in them, but you felt that that was
the bottom. Oh yeah, and now you're playing SMU tonight
in a game where you're an underdog and you're a
(38:42):
fourteen and eighteen squad. I'll tell you of what what
could have been. You mentioned football, like it's the race
of football. So Syracuse joins the ACC because guess what,
it's better for football. I don't know if it was
for Syracuse. I know Jim Beheim, which is things were different,
but he's no longer there.
Speaker 6 (38:59):
And by the way, conference tournament in North Carolina not
moving the needle like it did in New York City.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
He's here and Torres, I'm Dan Byer, It's Ben Cavino
and Rich Enjoy the rest of the day and sleep
well tonight as your sports Christmas Day hits tomorrow. See
you
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