March 13, 2025 • 41 mins
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, in for Covino and Rich, explain what to learn from the Cooper Flagg injury. We remember an absolute legend. And the guys debate if Russell Wilson has taken his last snaps as QB1 in the NFL!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Welcome Inside, Happy Thursday. Jason Smith and Mike Harbon
in for Coveno and Rich today. As we get ready,
I always look at conference Championship week Mike Cartman as
the the trial run for next week, right, Like, Okay,
there's big games going on now and every some teams
are worried I'm getting off the bubble getting in, But
(00:42):
it's really okay. This is kind of a trial run
see test bubble for next thur. What can I tell
my bosses next Thursday and Friday? But what kind of
plans can I make or not? Like like this is
like a nice little dry run where hey, if possible,
you watch the games during the day, but if not,
it's okay because really it's about next week.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, It's all just a question of you know, how
much of out you want to get. It's a better
value proposition getting out to Vegas this week before the
amateurs and the price bikes, so conference title week, save
money on your hotels, better availability for seeding in the
sports books, and all of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
See, I'm just saying, watching games on TV, you got
everybody going to Vegas this week.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I'm also just trying to figure out it's also
easier to probably come up with some lame as excuse
about taking off versus next week when someone goes, yeah,
it's the NCAA Tournament. We'll see at nine thirty for
the normal weekly meeting.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This week you might be able to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'll take off the wheel. I'll take off the Sunday
before the super Bowl. They won't see that coming, and
then I'll be to left to work during the super Bowl,
but I won't see that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm going to manimize enjoyment without having to get yourself
potentially in a picture.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, speaking of maximizing enjoyment, right, I feel like we've
dodged a big bullet here for the NCAA Tournament, but
there's still a big lesson to be learned. Of Course,
the biggest story today college basketball. Cooper Flag. Everybody's all American,
everyone's number one overall pick the.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Only guy anybody knows in college basketball.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Listen the college To be honest, the college basketball season
has been about two things this year. It's been about
Cooper Flag and Saint John's and Rick Patino. And we're
driving the bus on Saint John's Ropetino.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, don't forget the meltdowns of the greatest coach in
the game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, but Danny Hurley even is like, hey, are you
even getting in the tournament?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Just get in the tournament first, okay, and then we
can talk about Okay, sorry, sorry, three things Cooper Flag,
Rick Patino, Saint John's and Rick Patino's white suit. So
those those are the three things. It's about. SEC dominance
is fun, Sam, but now you can't compare. You have
the SEC and I got Rick Patino in a white
suit on the sideline. What wins? Rick Patino wins? I mean,
come on all the time, that's Rick Patino. I get
(02:51):
all these great schools, addiet rip Patino. But Cooper Flag,
you know, clearly he has been the number one guy
all year long, the big superstar college basketball one every
single year. On Duke getting set for a march and
For a little while today we thought there could be
an NCAA tournament on the table next week without Cooper
Flag because in the first half of Duke's win over
(03:13):
Georgia Tech and the ACC tournament this happened. Three No good.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Cooper Flagg has the rebound after the mist shot by
Jaden Mousta.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh that's not good and Flag is down. Not good.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Flag is down and laying on his stomach. Now rolls
to his back under the basket on the right side.
He went high for the rebound, landed. He's holding his
left ankle. He wants help to the bend.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Show my goodness.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, in the immediate moment, it looks less than ideal
because he couldn't put weight on it at first. Now
he's put his left foot on the floor and is
trying to put some weight on the left leg, but
he is limping and heavily limping as he comes off
the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
H ESPN Radio on the call. I like that it
looks less than ideal. I'm gonna use that now when
something I think really bad happens, I'm gonna say, you know,
that's less than ideal.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You want to play the Brunson play and c ie
if you can react like that naturally.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh boy, look at Jalen Brunson. That's that's less than ideal.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Least than ideal.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I got a flat tire on the freeway, I've spun
out and I'm in the middle lane. This is this
is less than I do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You dead pan it? No, I'm gonna have to fire
you like you're Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Is absolutely less than idea.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Now the question is should should he do operations shut
down and go hang around the rafters like Staing the
wrestler did back in the day and just watch all
the teams that are destined for the most ping pong
balls in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it's funny, you said, because the first thing we
got it we have to talk about is that he
looks to be okay. X rays on his ankle were negative,
and Duket coach John Shire said, listen, it's a long
shot for him to play tomorrow in the ACC semis
I mean, like, why would you? I mean obviously, So
it seems like he has avoided the worst injury. And
when he did limp off the floor, they did allow
(05:00):
him to He was okay walking around a little bit,
and he seemed really mad. Because he came down obviously
you see his foot come down right on the players,
that the instep of the Georgia Tech player's foot, and
it's just it's just bad. I mean, it's just bad luck.
Like that's what happened to Jalen Brunson. But Brunson, you watch,
and it was he couldn't even stand up. He found
a way to just stand in one spot, hit two
(05:20):
free throws. Flag at least was kind of walking off.
Now I don't know if I'm duke that I allowed
him to. Can you continue to walk around like that
with no help? Like they watch him walk around there?
How about you get somebody over there. Why did it
take the doctor like ten minutes to get on the
floor to go look at Cooper Flag like he's walking around, Hey,
come on, let's stop Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Trying to test it and everything. And then they eventually
do get him in the wheelchair and send him back.
So some great gifts started to float float through. I mean,
we're really a cruel society because we had, yeah, at
that point, how injured he was. But all the Paul Piers,
all the old Kevin Nash again wrestling reference, all in
the head to say, you know, gotta take care of
(05:59):
your number one property there.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't know, man. I think my favorite part of
the wheelchair pictures when people would blow them up just
to look at the ankle that it was swollen. Look
at this, this looks less than ideal? Is less than ideal?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Or they start sending in the thing. What what was
it from Friday the thirteenth, Part two where the guy
goes down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, so look here here's the thing about it? Right,
good news? Right? But this is I love nca Now
you know there's a butt coming, right, you know there's
a butt coming. I love conference tournament week. I love
teams being able to win their way in. I love
that here's a team that's gonna steal a bid from someone,
(06:37):
like it's fun, I understand it. But for teams like Duke,
every team that's at the top of their conference, all
the top twenty five teams, what do you really have
at stake during NCAA tournament week? Right? You have nothing
at stake? And all that could happen really is something
like this, right, And you see and luckily, Duke looks
like they really avoided the worst case scenario, which is
(06:59):
playing the NCAA tournament without Cooper Flag. But for teams
like Duke and Saint John's, all these teams at the
top in Houston, Texas Tech, why are you playing any
of your starters real big minutes because there's no I mean, yes, okay,
we wanted up. Do you really want a number one?
Is it really that big a deal to get a
(07:19):
number one seed? If a number one versus number two,
or if we lose early, we're a five seed instead
of a four seed, or a six seed instead of
a seven seed. Now, if you need to win, if
you need a couple of wins for your resume, then
absolutely you know who's on the bubble and who's not
right you know, okay, we got to play our guys.
But for teams at the top, the teams that are
in the top twenty five that hey, we feel pretty
good about getting in. You kind of need to treat
(07:42):
the tournament week like NFL teams treat the end of
the season when they have a place clinched in the
playoffs and they really can't move around. Whereas do you
even play your starters or do you play them just
a few minutes in each half so they can just
get a few minutes and then you take them out.
Because really, there's no scenario where this helps you. Yay,
(08:03):
you're duke, you win the your AC tournament champion regular season,
you win the conference turn What does it matter? Right, Like,
teams don't usually lose seedings by losing teams like duke
teams in the top twenty five, you don't lose a
lot of seatings by losing in your conference tournament. Right
You've done enough over the course of the year. So
I wonder if this is gonna actually be a kind
of a trendsetter for teams to say, Okay, we feel
(08:25):
really good about where we're at. We don't care where
we're seated. We don't give a crap. We can't control anything.
We don't know who's gonna play against us. There's you know,
we got sixty eight teams in here, and there's or
seventy two teams, and then there's gonna be seventy six.
In a few years, we're gonna be eighty and then
eighty six and then ninety and then one hundred and
one hundred and twenty. It doesn't matter. So we're gonna
start sitting our guys out. So now the path of
teams to potentially win their way in is gonna get
(08:47):
a little bit easier because hey, well here's Georgia Tech.
They get Duke, but Duke's not playing their guys because
they have everything clinched. Like that really should be how
teams that are securely and safely in the top five
seeds six seeds of the NCAA tournament should wind up
going forward because there's really no win and the big
loss would be something like this, potentially losing a star
(09:09):
player for the entire tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I get it, automatic bids all the way deep into
the conference tournament, rest rust and got to make sure
you take care of those TV partners. And the fact
that there's an estimated three billion dollars that's going to
bet legally in March madness. So we I mean, we
have to ramp it up properly, Jason, I mean, you
got to prime the pump. That's me the guy. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, It's like when Luca wasn't playing for the Lakers,
but they showed him before every game and he had
the great Lakers sweatsuit.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No good boy is he is he heavy?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He's wearing black and black kind of hides pounds a
little bit. I don't know what he waves to the crowd. Okay,
we got to see a little bit of Luka were waiting. No,
you'll still see these guys coming the wave, getting the
lay up line. And like I said, maybe they play
five minutes or ten, you know, a few minutes to
start the first half or what have just to just
to stay sharp in a game setting game situation. But
you're not going crazy trying to win. And because an
(10:00):
injury can happen anywhere, right it can. I mean I
would be I'd be okay if you wanted to sit
your starters out and not play him entirely, because this
is this is Cooper flag injury ten minutes into the game, right,
this is not a wear and tear. And I'm tugging
on my shorts at the end. I'm tired shooting free throws,
like I'm Joel embiid. You know this happened and you
had to come and drag em bead. I really you're
at it. I mean you just kind of side swiped
(10:23):
again to the.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Sting reference earlier you took the baseball bat to him.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Come on, man, I really didn't. It was it really
was unnecessary. But but it's still we get what I'm
saying when you say, if I say to you, hey,
when you're tired shooting free throws, who do you think of? Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think of him tugging Addy shorts. There's no okay,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So when I say that, okay, you've been working together.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's kind of a mind meld on some of these things.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Your mind absolutely goes there already, right, it goes so
you're absolutely you know that's where it is.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You were there, Dad, long lived the process. I know.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Look, it's like, if you need to dig a hole,
I'm simply handing you the shot. That's all. That's all
I'm doing right there.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You know the guy I'd never dug a hole before.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Hey, lock up, Billy Batts staying here, Billy Bat's stay
in here, keep him there. So I get it. But
I really wonder if this winds up being the the
the not fatal in the NCAA tournament. Sense cautionary tale
of Hey, this is why when you're a team like dude,
you're in the top you're you're a top twenty team,
You're gonna sit your guys in the conference tournament because
(11:27):
there's really no way. And I wonder if it's gonna
happen the next couple of days. Like, is a team
like Houston gonna say whoa whoa whoa Okay, uh yeah,
we don't need to do this, really, we don't need
to do this. Where do you say, John's gonna say, hey, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa what when you have to.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You have to retire the white suit? You wear the
white suit no the conference tournament because bad things could happen. Man,
bad things get happened. You red hanger, hiven that white
suit back in your hotel room.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
All right, Well, maybe Patino needs to save the white
suit for the turnament like Tiger Woods would save Red
until Sunday. Yeah, you know, I save the white suit
for the turn But he can still wear it if
he wants to, and then he's comes into Narco. Yeah.
But like Arja r J. Lewis, like, does he need
to play for Saint John when you're playing Thursday, Friday,
Saturday in three games in three days? Is that really smart? Is?
I mean? I don't know that it's not a light
(12:17):
It should have been a light bulb moment before this,
But now I think it's really gonna be a light bulb.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But do we get it when they've obviously done enough
too on the resume to get into the tournament outa
hell with it, We're done. Sit down, Like where do
we draw the line?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, no, it's it's when when when If you're a
team that is comfortably in the tournament and a win
or loss is only going to move you one one
spot or so, and that's I mean by the top twenty.
If you're a top twenty team, that if you're a
periphery top twenty five team, maybe if you're talking about
being like a six seven seed, you want to play
a little bit because there's teams that that are in
(12:53):
the top twenty five and then they lose early in
the conference tournament and they wind up getting left out.
It's a bad loss, and they draw you know, maybe
they're in the thirties or thirty five, and other teams
win their way in and team steel bids. But if
you're a top twenty team, you're you're getting in right
and if you're a if you're a team that's a
three seed and you lose in the first round of
the tournament. I also think that the conference committee. And
(13:16):
here's where things work in your favor as well. The
conference committee would look at that loss and say, yeah,
Duke did lose in the second round to Georgia Tech,
but none of their starters played. Cooper Flagg didn't play. Okay,
we're not we're not dinging you on that. That's just
a game that doesn't count in how we break down
your season, right, because I don't think that would be
the I don't think teams would say, oh, look Saint John,
(13:37):
Sat Kadari, Richmond, did everybody. Look, I can't believe they
did that. No, drop them down. They're an eight seed. Now, No,
it's okay Saint John's loss, but they rested their guys,
so yeah, they're gonna stay a two seed. Right. I
don't think that would be the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Case, Jason. You have people listening. If there are age
or older, the probability is high that their faces are
melting like the guy and Raiders in the Lost Dark.
Right now, they're competition. Do you mean take the conference
championships off? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm simply making it more I'm just making it more
fun for the teams on the bubble, right, Like, Hey,
the great teams they're gonna get all their attention. This
is for the teams that you know we talk about
and saying, yeah, they're really not that great, but we
could still see him playing next week. That could be great. Hey,
I'm really just that big. I'm for just a big
overall bubble tournament. Like hey, have one one selection Sunday
(14:26):
where we let in the definitive teams and then everybody
else gets invited to a tournament this week. And this
is where we play the big bubble tournament and teams
play like three games round robin, and you see who's
most impressive, and those teams wind up getting the final selections.
I'm even rough for something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh I keep behind that.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah I have that in Vegas. Sure see, now
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bracket tournament, now, I said this, I need to kind
of like like I think like a dog. I need
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to mark my territory on this. Uh yeah, I am
one hundred percent Saint John's. Although I don't care what
the draw is. I don't care who they play Saint
John's all the way through. I mean it's I'm never
gonna ever get a chance again to to have the
team that I grew up rooting for. There was my
boyhood team in my hometown. Half a season like this.
Saint John's hasn't been this good in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Has been a minute, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, forty years like I'm going back to eighty five
and Chris Mullen and Walter Berry and Mark Jackson and that,
I mean Mark Jackson was the point guard the last
time Saint John's is this good. I am just saying
I don't care. I don't care if Saint John's has
to play Duke Houston, Auburn Alabama. I don't care what
their draw is. I am taking Saint John's to win
it all.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I enjoy the cut of your jib. So many of
others have jumped on that bandwagon, because what are they
They're still at like twenty five to one though, so
the betting public hasn't jumped on board just yet. But
maybe they haven't seen enough pictures of the white suit.
Maybe we all oroprogate that across the interwebs a little
more fervently.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, well that that? Or or watch Codari Richmond and
his triple double from the other night, or r J
Lewis of the Year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's about the white suit?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Watch them?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How you get people to put their five dollars in?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh? Man up? Tell well that's that is true. Come on,
don't you want to see Patino in the white suit? Yeah?
I guess so. Wait, how does that help? If I
pick then, it doesn't matter. Just pick them, just just
pick them.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Once upon a time, and you know, we we channeled
everything back into our broadcasting world. Big games were defined
by uh who was calling it? Right? Super Bowl with Fox?
This year there's Brady uh and ready to go and
and Summer all in mad and and all that for
all these years and now it's hey, is Petino gonna
wear the white suit?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Know?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well that'll decide how big a game it is.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Let's see, Oh like Jim McMahon's headband, nor what's he
gonna write in his headband? What's he gonna say in
the headband?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I gotta buy one of those Patino sweater cards though,
especially have one in the in the studio with us.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What do you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
How does Patino drink red wine in that white suit?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Very carefully? I think I think actually he has someone,
he has someone drink it for him. That that's I
think he just he just smells it and then someone
else drinks it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Is just where the sippy cup comes out.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, or how about this? How about because this would
be a great thing for Patino, how about this for
some sort of uh maybe Scotch Guard or somebody like
wearing the white suit. You know, in a commercial, someone
hands in red wine to celebrate a win and he
spills it. But it just rolls right off the suit.
You don't even see it. Oh that's Scotch Guard or
whatever it is. Wow, Oh I gotta buy that that
(19:51):
water making suit. It just it just throws.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Usually more flammable.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know if you want to put fire in
a commercial.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I mean, I don't know if you're just saying that, yeah,
waked away, I don't know, some of it residue remained.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, truth and advertising. Here's the thing. Look, you can
spill red wine on this and look it's not going
to show up. But watch it. You just someone just
turns a lighter on and the and it and it
just goes up in flames like Gabriel Byrne in Midsummer
Sorry spoiler, all of a sudden, Just whoa what happened?
The flame is all the way over here?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That suit is the suit? Is that catchy? It's just
that catchy.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
See you're the one that brought up Midsummer not me.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, that's what I thought when I think of okay again,
when I think of people going on fire for no reason. Oh,
there's there's that scene from Midsummer See.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I always just thought about, you know when we were
playing NBA jam.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He's on fire. Yes, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in for
Cavino and Rich today here on Fox Sports Radio, and
incredibly sad news you want to get to from the
world of college basketball. It's this news is about an
hour or so old right now. John Feinstein, one of
the greatest writers in the history of sports, has passed
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away at the age of sixty eight. It's not known
a lot about what happened, but he passed away at
his brother's home. His brother making the announcement not too
long ago, and we throw around the word legend really,
you know, very carelessly sometimes and just ah, legend, legend.
I don't know that there's a bigger sports writing legend
(21:20):
that has spanned more years of his career than John Feinstein,
because what he did in nineteen eighty five with his
very first book, A Season on the Break, which is
one of the most famous sports books of all time,
following Indiana basketball around for a year and it was
the year before they won the national title, and it
was it was groundbreaking. It was I've never seen someone
(21:41):
do this, but we've had incredible writers who have chronicled
seasons before. David Halberstam is a tremendous writer. His career
is incredible. But what John Feinstein was able to do
was to to take certain topics in sports that wasn't
here's the story of last year World Series champion and
we're slapping a book out. It was here's something that
(22:04):
sounds interesting, and you read the book and you say, oh,
my goodness, that was one of the best books I've
ever read. Right, he wrote a book on the Patriot
League from the nineteen ninety nine season, right because he
wanted to write about what it was, the Last Amateurs,
what it was called. It was about because you know,
back then, nobody got scholarships, and I don't think people understood, oh, hey,
Ivy League doesn't get scholarships. A good walk spoiled about
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a season on the PGA Tour Tales from Q School,
which he wrote about guys that are just trying to
get their Q card and get to the PGA Tour.
Stuff that you wouldn't think that would be something that
would that would be, oh, this is really interesting, and
all of a sudden it's oh my god, I can't
get enough of this book, right, like he wrote. My
favorite Feinstein book that he wrote was the Army Navy book,
(22:46):
where he followed Army and Navy in nineteen ninety five.
He followed both of them and everything was about building
towards the game at the end of the year, right
was between Army Navy, and it was just outstanding. I mean,
he wrote so many books that were like this of
this ilk and everybody's got their favorites. But I read
that book thirty years ago, right I read I read
Civil War Army Navy thirty years ago, and I still
(23:08):
remember people from the book. I remember Jim Cantaloup, who
was the big star player for Army in nineteen ninety five,
and they would ask him what kind of name is
that and he would say it's produce, right, Like I
still remember because that's how much that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's my favorite, Melanie, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's how much I remember that book and all of
the books he wrote, and certain things that still stick out.
And and I've read probably two thirds to three quarters
of all those books. Like he wrote forty books. I
didn't read the any of the he wrote some young
adult lot last few years, and he had some series
with which I just haven't read, but all his other ones,
I mean I don't read, you know me, I don't
read a lot of sports books. But when he comes
(23:43):
out with something that's, oh yeah, I want to read
it because I don't really care if it's something that
is interesting to me off the bat, I know he's
going to make it interesting. And that was always something
and that's what some of that's what the best writers
can make you do. Here's a book. Even when I
read novels now, you know, because I read all the time. Now,
I read probably fifty books a year I read a book.
It doesn't matter. Sometimes the plot doesn't matter if you're
(24:04):
telling me a great story and you're telling us something
where I just find myself getting lost in the pages.
And John Finstein was able to do that time and
time again.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Forty four books published the Young young adult series. Certainly
I would take my daughters to the library or over
to a Barnes and Noble and you'd see a giant
sections like that guy is a big deal, and now
he's crossed over into this section. So trying to move
some of those books over from the rest of his stash,
(24:33):
just saying hey, mom, Dad, grab these while you're here.
But we were just talking about him a couple of
weeks ago at the passing of Gene Hackman, right because
you know, you get into Brian dennahe and his portrayal
of Bob Knight versus you know, Dale and what we
had with Gene Hackman and all of that. So season
(24:54):
on the brink, and people maybe didn't love the movie
adaptation of it as much.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was weird. It was. It was a little with
very avant garde and very strange how they did it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But it's that kind of thing where it's like, all right,
this is how we we get that cross section and
crossover and and sometimes that's what it takes, is you
get stuff uh put into film made for TV movies, uh,
television series, whatever else some of our favorites. But a legend,
I mean used to be just a constant companion on
(25:27):
on some of those sports reporters shows back in the day. Uh,
especially when we're getting to this time of year. So
good thoughts with his family's friends and and certainly go
check out the the IMDb and and and the the
history and and get back to reading folks.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Uh. Now you know what this is leading to. You know,
I have a great John Feinstein story. Of course, you
you know I have one, right, Okay, this is because
I think I think about this and it was actually
it's so it's so weird that it was during conference
championship week. There's my John Finstein story. So this is
a I'm not gonna say some of the names just
because you know, we don't have to, but John Findese's
(26:05):
name you need to know. So I was doing radio
show during the day about twenty is, twenty ish years ago,
and at this point, John Feinstein was not just an author,
but he was really active in being a college basketball insider. Right.
He was on TV, not just sports reporters. He did
pieces for ESPN on college basketball, like he was it. So,
(26:28):
I'm doing a show in the afternoons. We're doing a
show and my partner and it was kind of this
person's show, and I was the co host and John
Feinstein was coming on and the host gets this idea
and he says, hey, what if we do this? And
I said what He's what if we have because we're
having Feinstein on today and tomorrow. Right, he was coming
on Thursday and Friday for conference championship. He was coming
on at the end of the day Thursday previewing Friday's games. Okay, great,
(26:52):
what if we do a whole segment with him? And
we do it like the games tomorrow have already happened,
and we're saying who the winners are, and then tomorrow
we'll play it back and see if we were right.
And I said, wait, wait, what do you want to do?
I don't understand. He goes, do the segment like the
games that were preving have already happened. I said, okay,
So we say, like Duke wins you know this this
(27:14):
and Latner does this where yeah, yeah, yeah, we do it,
and then tomorrow we have fine scene on again. We
play it back and see if we're right, and I
go okay, and I think and I go, hm, how
do I say this? What do I say? And I said,
weh Maybe I don't know, and I knew John finds
Stein a little bit from when we overlapped a little
bit of ESPN. I go, yeah, I don't know, because
he's coming on in like five minutes right like we're
(27:36):
getting we're getting ready for the commercial break coming into
when he comes on the air. And I said, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if that's something to
spring on him right now. I don't know if he's
someone that would I don't know. Do you think he'd
like that idea? I mean, I don't know. And I
just throw that out there, right and I say, you know,
I said my piece. He tells the producer his idea.
Producer says, all right, well, let me throw it by
Feinstein before we have him on and see what he says.
(27:58):
I'm like, okay, So I feel like we're on the
same page here, and I'm going oh please. I hope
Feinstein hates this idea. I really hope he hates it.
But he finds a way to be very tactful, and
I hope, you know, I mean, what are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do? What's he gonna say? So
we're in commercial and we're like two three minutes out
from the segment, and the produce says, Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna. I told Feinstein you had an idea you
(28:19):
wanted to run by him. Let me patch him through
to you, so you so you can tell him what
it is. Okay, Great? So he patches find Stein through.
He says, hey, don't I do it? Hey, guys, what's
going on? Hey? Great? And and you know, the host says, hey,
what if I was thinking about this right? What if
instead of talking about the games today and previewing the
games tomorrow, we talk about the games tomorrow like they've
already happened. And and and then we play this tape
(28:41):
back tomorrow and we go over and see what we
got right if we were wrong about that? And I'm
sitting here and I just have this pit in my stomach, going,
what is he gonna say? What? Just just be I'm like,
just you know, find a way to be tactful and
say it. This is what John Feinstein says. He says it. No,
I've never forgot this. He says it, just like this.
He goes, uh, you know, I think that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I'm good friend, and I'm like, okay, answing around like
we're dad.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We're not gonna do that. Okay, We're not gonna do it.
We're just gonna talk about the games. Okay, we're here.
I am worried. How's he gonna say it? How's he
gonna say it? Is?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's a terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There are ideas in this world that are goods. Is
not one of them. That's a good story, though, I
have You've probably exhaled quite a bit right there.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yes, yes, And I didn't look at anybody. I just said, okay,
all right, let me get like, I'm getting my notes ready. Okay, like,
what are we gonna do.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
We're gonna predict a box for this?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, we're gonna talk about Carmelo Anthony and
we're gonna talk about that. Okay, great, we're gona talk
about Okay, we got this right, here. Nick Collison, all right, credit,
got my questions ready, not looking at anybody, just gonna
sit right here with my head down until we start
talking to John Finstein.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Unless they produced the little hat that Johnny Carson wore
his Karnak showing, oh, then maybe it could work.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit swollen Dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon in for Cafino and Rich Today. Hey, be
sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.
Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a
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(30:22):
What a life? What a career? Time out to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports with
Isaac lohencron I Lo. What do you got for us?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Hey, guys. Interesting news today out of the world of
Major League Baseball, the Tampa Bay Rays announced that they're
abandoning their plans to build a new ballpark and instead
or planning to return to Tropicana Field in twenty twenty six.
The Rays here in twenty twenty five going to be
playing their home games at Steinbrenner Field and at Tampa.
In college basketball earlier today, in the ACC Tournament quarterfinals,
(30:53):
Number one Duke defeated Georgia Tech seventy eight to seventy,
but Duke star Cooper Flagg left the game with a
spring lef ankle. Head coach John Shire said X rays
were negative and that it will be a long shot
for him to play in the semi finals tomorrow. In
the NFL, former Miami Dolphins running back Raheem most It
signing a one year, two million dollar deal with the
Las Vegas Raiders. Quarterback Mason Rudolph signing with the Pittsburgh
(31:16):
Steelers for two years and eight million dollars. Steelers also
resigning receiver Ben Scernik. The Washington Commanders resigning receiver Noah Brown.
I was gonna tell you something about Noah Brown, but
I think I'll.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
No, don't leave leave Chicago Bears. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Oh my gosh, I just got hit with two laser
beams through the glass. So I'm glad I left that short.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Can you leave out the biggest play he had last year?
Just leave, just leave it. No one needs to know,
and we all remember, We all remember Noah Brown. No
you bring it up.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
No need to bring up the play by no h. Finally,
NBC has extended its Olympic rights deal with the International
Olympic Committee for three billion dollars, comprising their coverage of
the twenty three prey four Winter Olympics in Salt Lake
City as well as the twenty thirty six Summer Games. Guys,
back to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
You, thanks a bunch, Eilo. Uh, you know that that
Tampa Bay Rays story, Mike. I you know, we always
look in, We always look and uh, every so often
we go, wow, this guy's the worst owner in sports,
right and so far, like Woody Johnson has taken that
mantle from Jerry Jones over the course of the past year,
especially when you know when you're when your eighteen year
old son is making decisions. Oh my sweet brick.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, Woody Johnson's had that. But I gotta be honest,
I think Ray's owner Stu Sternberg may be more hated
than any other owner in sports. I mean, every single
comment on this story today was sell the team. Right.
I'm like, wow, okay, why is sell the team trending? No,
it's every single thing is Stu sell the team, Sell,
sell the team sell the team.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, that was a story we touched on briefly earlier
in the week that came out of the Athletic that
Rob Manford and some of the higher powered owners are
trying to pressure him into putting the team up for sale.
Into interim, they'll play at the Yankees Minor League, their
spring training facility. Steinburn Field's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's ceas what thirty four hundred, thirty five hundred?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah? I did a couple of stand ups many years
ago with a Rod and Jeter in the background, one
of my proudest moments in terms of televised network stuff
for Fox Sports Net back in the day. But yeah,
this is crazy. Just how many of these guys really
if you had the chance to just vote them off
the island like it was a reality show, how many
(33:34):
of them would go at this point?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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(33:58):
up in a bit, but straight ahead, the biggest story
of the day in NFL free agency revolves around a
quarterback who may have played his last down. That's next
right here, Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for the guys.
This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Nice suit, don't spill that on my white suit to day,
Nice suit. I got to do a postgame presser and
I can have big red splotches all over me and
on camera. Fox Sports Radio we really hit on something,
(34:42):
Mike Harmon, that really question. I mean, Patino, that's that's
absolutely like a huge endorsement deal for him White.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So sure, yeah, and then you get the Tide pens
and whatever else you need.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I meant it all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
mean you have to get past the whole people are
having one in the sideline of a college basketball game
and it's just a commercial. Well, Lebron did it's a commercial.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Go through a broad been sitting on the bed a minute.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's it. Lebron's in the commercial. He's the one that he's.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Got plenty of time off right now. He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He's hurt.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
That's it, is that Cameron, He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Patino's gonna have some time off the very beginning
of next week. So we we get we get Lebron, Patina,
we shoot the commercial. Boom, it's out there. Oh I
like this commercial.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
If we do the footage right, we can also get
a trailer for a would be sequel to American Psycho. Sure,
they already had one with me, Laguritez. I'm talking, you know,
deeper into uh you know, a universe.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why you get so dark with that? Now?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
You brought up Midsummer earlier in the hour.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm just finishing the circle Patina running into a stereo
with a chainsaw and dropping it like come.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
On, wow, I mean he wasn't wearing a suit, Netsy, and.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
He was he was wearing his birthday suit. Yeah, let's
go big news from the NFL. As we continue to
wait to find out just exactly what Aaron Rodgers and
Russell Wilson's future plans are been a lot of attention
on Rogers last couple of days. Potentially he's deciding if
(36:11):
he wants to go to the Steelers or not. But
today is really about Russell Wilson, and I think we
have to start getting around to the notion that we've
seen him play his last down in the NFL. Right
he went. He visited Cleveland today and left without a contract.
H Russell Wilson could have signed anywhere and he hasn't. Right,
(36:35):
if he was going to go back to the Steelers,
they would have signed him, if they really You don't
mess around and play and play a little bit of
chicken with your quarterback, right, you know, oh maybe we're
here now. You know, do you see a quarterback you want?
You go right after him? Right, first day of free agency? Boom,
Seahawks grabs Sam Darnold, Jets grabbed Justin Fields. And I'm
sure Roger Goodell said, Okay, enough with the quarterback news
(36:57):
for a day. Daniel Jones, can you hold your decision
till tomorrow? Yeah, that's fine. Next day, Boom Daniel Jones,
Indianapolis Colts. If Russell Wilson was a guy the Steelers wanted,
they would have gotten him, right, They would have signed
him already. If the Giants wanted Russell Wilson, they would
have signed him already. He has been out there and
he can want to play as much as he wants to.
(37:17):
But when the league tells you, hey, there's not a
lot of interest in you, and the only two teams
that seem to have any sort of interest in a
quarterback haven't signed you, are we really going to see
Russell Wilson play in the NFL? Was this visit to
the to the Browns just, hey, we're here because we
want to try to get some heat on Russell and
and and try to move the market here a little
(37:38):
bit because we're not getting anything so far, right, I mean,
I think we're kind of overestimating just what his absolute
value is on the open market. He had a good
four or five game stretch when he took over for
Justin Fields, which he probably shouldn't have taken over what
he did. But then the last few weeks he was done,
and so teams are looking at Russell Wilson in the
(37:58):
light of maybe last year that was the best thing
he had left. That was his death cry right, that
was his last moment. Was that four or five week
run when he played pretty well, but the end of
the season was really bad. Conversely, why there's a little
bit more heat on Aaron Rodgers because he ended better, Right,
He still ended the last eight to nine games of
the season was pretty good, right endo top ten in yards,
(38:18):
top ten in touchdown passes, but Wilson ended poorly. And
I mean, I see all this going on, but I
just see this as people just trying to make stuff happen. Right, Like,
the Giants could have signed Wilson and still had whatever
plan they want a quarterback going into the draft. If
Shador Sanders is there, if he's not, if cam Water's there,
if he's not, they could still have Russell Wilson into
(38:39):
one of those guys. They could still have Russell Wilson
into a quarterback they take beginning of the second round,
if it's Kyle McCord or Quinn Ewers or Jackson Dart,
whoever's there. And the fact they still haven't done so
he leaves Cleveland without a contract when Cleveland needs guys, right,
they got Kenny Pickett, who said I'm going to get
a chance to battle for the starting quarterback job this
year with whoever they bring up where it's whether it's
a veteran or whether it's a rookie. And he's still
(39:03):
sitting out there with no job. I mean, he's not
someone that's going to take a backup gig. And so
I sit here and say, get used to the fact
that we may have seen Russell Wilson play his last
down in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, I mean some of it becomes a ho. What
truly is the timetable for Aaron Rodgers to make a
decision in whatever he's mulling, whatever the offer is that
Dulac there for the Post Gazette reported there in Pittsburgh yesterday.
So you got that floating the Giants, Shane and Dable
have They've been given the vote of confidence that no
(39:35):
matter how bad badly this team performs in twenty five,
that they get a stay of execution to build with
a new quarterback. So you just put someone trial by
fire or do you get the placeholder to maybe ease
the suffering of their fans still smarting from whatever they
thought Saquon Barkley could have been with them, just not
(39:55):
with them, not with them. It's not we broke up, Okay,
I get it. We broke up, just not with Ham. Okay, dude,
I just went full Oceans eleven.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's gonna be twenty fifth. We're gonna get to the
last Bobby Benia day and people are gonna say, I
still can't believe we let Barkley go. I can't believe
we let Barkley was dude, Come on, man, that was
twelve years ago, Barkley said, retired. I still can't believe
we let him go. We would have won the super Bowl. Yeah, no, No,
that's the uncle Rico. If they coach put me in
the fourth quarter, we would have won state. No, you're not.
(40:24):
You were terrible with Saquon Barkley. You would have been terrible.
Didn't matter. He would have barely run for a thousand yards,
so it would have been awful. Just this is kind
of how it goes, you know, ta Kuon Barkley left.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, yeah, I mean sometimes you just got fuck get
better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.
But for Kenny Pickett, he's looking over his shoulder when
Russell Wilson comes walking in. I'm guessing he's doing some
lat work or something like, the hell this guy again?
I mean, I'm a super Bowl champion don't get it wrong.
I mean I got my Super Bowl, you know, alongside
uh Saquon Barkley. But Russell Wilson's gonna come knocking on
(40:56):
my door again. Come on, I don't have time to this.
And is this he's really just trying to make Miles
Garrett feel better because one of the things he said
he acted he wanted to be an active recruiter. So
I was like, I give Russell his visit.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Fine, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
A week.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We're not going to sign him?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
No? No, fine? Do I need to be here? No?
Not at all? Okay, great, Just let me know how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Is he willing to play for the minimum? That's all
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. So we
may have seen Russell Wilson play his last down in
the NFL. More big stories out of the NFL and NBA.
Next Fox, What was that fuck?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Hello, Welcome Inside, Happy Thursday. Jason Smith and Mike Harbon
in for Coveno and Rich today. As we get ready,
I always look at conference Championship week Mike Cartman as
the the trial run for next week, right, Like, Okay,
there's big games going on now and every some teams
are worried I'm getting off the bubble getting in, But
(00:42):
it's really okay. This is kind of a trial run
see test bubble for next thur. What can I tell
my bosses next Thursday and Friday? But what kind of
plans can I make or not? Like like this is
like a nice little dry run where hey, if possible,
you watch the games during the day, but if not,
it's okay because really it's about next week.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, It's all just a question of you know, how
much of out you want to get. It's a better
value proposition getting out to Vegas this week before the
amateurs and the price bikes, so conference title week, save
money on your hotels, better availability for seeding in the
sports books, and all of those things.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
See, I'm just saying, watching games on TV, you got
everybody going to Vegas this week.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, I'm also just trying to figure out it's also
easier to probably come up with some lame as excuse
about taking off versus next week when someone goes, yeah,
it's the NCAA Tournament. We'll see at nine thirty for
the normal weekly meeting.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
I know it.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
This week you might be able to get away with it.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
I'll take off the wheel. I'll take off the Sunday
before the super Bowl. They won't see that coming, and
then I'll be to left to work during the super Bowl,
but I won't see that.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
I'm going to manimize enjoyment without having to get yourself
potentially in a picture.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Now, speaking of maximizing enjoyment, right, I feel like we've
dodged a big bullet here for the NCAA Tournament, but
there's still a big lesson to be learned. Of Course,
the biggest story today college basketball. Cooper Flag. Everybody's all American,
everyone's number one overall pick the.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Only guy anybody knows in college basketball.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Listen the college To be honest, the college basketball season
has been about two things this year. It's been about
Cooper Flag and Saint John's and Rick Patino. And we're
driving the bus on Saint John's Ropetino.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
Hey, don't forget the meltdowns of the greatest coach in
the game.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Yeah, but Danny Hurley even is like, hey, are you
even getting in the tournament?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Just get in the tournament first, okay, and then we
can talk about Okay, sorry, sorry, three things Cooper Flag,
Rick Patino, Saint John's and Rick Patino's white suit. So
those those are the three things. It's about. SEC dominance
is fun, Sam, but now you can't compare. You have
the SEC and I got Rick Patino in a white
suit on the sideline. What wins? Rick Patino wins? I mean,
come on all the time, that's Rick Patino. I get
(02:51):
all these great schools, addiet rip Patino. But Cooper Flag,
you know, clearly he has been the number one guy
all year long, the big superstar college basketball one every
single year. On Duke getting set for a march and
For a little while today we thought there could be
an NCAA tournament on the table next week without Cooper
Flag because in the first half of Duke's win over
(03:13):
Georgia Tech and the ACC tournament this happened. Three No good.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Cooper Flagg has the rebound after the mist shot by
Jaden Mousta.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Oh that's not good and Flag is down. Not good.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Flag is down and laying on his stomach. Now rolls
to his back under the basket on the right side.
He went high for the rebound, landed. He's holding his
left ankle. He wants help to the bend.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Show my goodness.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Well, in the immediate moment, it looks less than ideal
because he couldn't put weight on it at first. Now
he's put his left foot on the floor and is
trying to put some weight on the left leg, but
he is limping and heavily limping as he comes off
the floor.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
H ESPN Radio on the call. I like that it
looks less than ideal. I'm gonna use that now when
something I think really bad happens, I'm gonna say, you know,
that's less than ideal.
Speaker 3 (04:03):
You want to play the Brunson play and c ie
if you can react like that naturally.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Oh boy, look at Jalen Brunson. That's that's less than ideal.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Least than ideal.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
I got a flat tire on the freeway, I've spun
out and I'm in the middle lane. This is this
is less than I do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
You dead pan it? No, I'm gonna have to fire
you like you're Ron Burgundy.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
Is absolutely less than idea.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Now the question is should should he do operations shut
down and go hang around the rafters like Staing the
wrestler did back in the day and just watch all
the teams that are destined for the most ping pong
balls in the NBA.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, it's funny, you said, because the first thing we
got it we have to talk about is that he
looks to be okay. X rays on his ankle were negative,
and Duket coach John Shire said, listen, it's a long
shot for him to play tomorrow in the ACC semis
I mean, like, why would you? I mean obviously, So
it seems like he has avoided the worst injury. And
when he did limp off the floor, they did allow
(05:00):
him to He was okay walking around a little bit,
and he seemed really mad. Because he came down obviously
you see his foot come down right on the players,
that the instep of the Georgia Tech player's foot, and
it's just it's just bad. I mean, it's just bad luck.
Like that's what happened to Jalen Brunson. But Brunson, you watch,
and it was he couldn't even stand up. He found
a way to just stand in one spot, hit two
(05:20):
free throws. Flag at least was kind of walking off.
Now I don't know if I'm duke that I allowed
him to. Can you continue to walk around like that
with no help? Like they watch him walk around there?
How about you get somebody over there. Why did it
take the doctor like ten minutes to get on the
floor to go look at Cooper Flag like he's walking around, Hey,
come on, let's stop Cooper Flagg.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Trying to test it and everything. And then they eventually
do get him in the wheelchair and send him back.
So some great gifts started to float float through. I mean,
we're really a cruel society because we had, yeah, at
that point, how injured he was. But all the Paul Piers,
all the old Kevin Nash again wrestling reference, all in
the head to say, you know, gotta take care of
(05:59):
your number one property there.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
I don't know, man. I think my favorite part of
the wheelchair pictures when people would blow them up just
to look at the ankle that it was swollen. Look
at this, this looks less than ideal? Is less than ideal?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Or they start sending in the thing. What what was
it from Friday the thirteenth, Part two where the guy
goes down the stairs.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Oh yeah, yeah, so look here here's the thing about it? Right,
good news? Right? But this is I love nca Now
you know there's a butt coming, right, you know there's
a butt coming. I love conference tournament week. I love
teams being able to win their way in. I love
that here's a team that's gonna steal a bid from someone,
(06:37):
like it's fun, I understand it. But for teams like Duke,
every team that's at the top of their conference, all
the top twenty five teams, what do you really have
at stake during NCAA tournament week? Right? You have nothing
at stake? And all that could happen really is something
like this, right, And you see and luckily, Duke looks
like they really avoided the worst case scenario, which is
(06:59):
playing the NCAA tournament without Cooper Flag. But for teams
like Duke and Saint John's, all these teams at the
top in Houston, Texas Tech, why are you playing any
of your starters real big minutes because there's no I mean, yes, okay,
we wanted up. Do you really want a number one?
Is it really that big a deal to get a
(07:19):
number one seed? If a number one versus number two,
or if we lose early, we're a five seed instead
of a four seed, or a six seed instead of
a seven seed. Now, if you need to win, if
you need a couple of wins for your resume, then
absolutely you know who's on the bubble and who's not
right you know, okay, we got to play our guys.
But for teams at the top, the teams that are
in the top twenty five that hey, we feel pretty
good about getting in. You kind of need to treat
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the tournament week like NFL teams treat the end of
the season when they have a place clinched in the
playoffs and they really can't move around. Whereas do you
even play your starters or do you play them just
a few minutes in each half so they can just
get a few minutes and then you take them out.
Because really, there's no scenario where this helps you. Yay,
(08:03):
you're duke, you win the your AC tournament champion regular season,
you win the conference turn What does it matter? Right, Like,
teams don't usually lose seedings by losing teams like duke
teams in the top twenty five, you don't lose a
lot of seatings by losing in your conference tournament. Right
You've done enough over the course of the year. So
I wonder if this is gonna actually be a kind
of a trendsetter for teams to say, Okay, we feel
(08:25):
really good about where we're at. We don't care where
we're seated. We don't give a crap. We can't control anything.
We don't know who's gonna play against us. There's you know,
we got sixty eight teams in here, and there's or
seventy two teams, and then there's gonna be seventy six.
In a few years, we're gonna be eighty and then
eighty six and then ninety and then one hundred and
one hundred and twenty. It doesn't matter. So we're gonna
start sitting our guys out. So now the path of
teams to potentially win their way in is gonna get
(08:47):
a little bit easier because hey, well here's Georgia Tech.
They get Duke, but Duke's not playing their guys because
they have everything clinched. Like that really should be how
teams that are securely and safely in the top five
seeds six seeds of the NCAA tournament should wind up
going forward because there's really no win and the big
loss would be something like this, potentially losing a star
(09:09):
player for the entire tournament.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
I get it, automatic bids all the way deep into
the conference tournament, rest rust and got to make sure
you take care of those TV partners. And the fact
that there's an estimated three billion dollars that's going to
bet legally in March madness. So we I mean, we
have to ramp it up properly, Jason, I mean, you
got to prime the pump. That's me the guy. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
No, It's like when Luca wasn't playing for the Lakers,
but they showed him before every game and he had
the great Lakers sweatsuit.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
No good boy is he is he heavy?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
He's wearing black and black kind of hides pounds a
little bit. I don't know what he waves to the crowd. Okay,
we got to see a little bit of Luka were waiting. No,
you'll still see these guys coming the wave, getting the
lay up line. And like I said, maybe they play
five minutes or ten, you know, a few minutes to
start the first half or what have just to just
to stay sharp in a game setting game situation. But
you're not going crazy trying to win. And because an
(10:00):
injury can happen anywhere, right it can. I mean I
would be I'd be okay if you wanted to sit
your starters out and not play him entirely, because this
is this is Cooper flag injury ten minutes into the game, right,
this is not a wear and tear. And I'm tugging
on my shorts at the end. I'm tired shooting free throws,
like I'm Joel embiid. You know this happened and you
had to come and drag em bead. I really you're
at it. I mean you just kind of side swiped
(10:23):
again to the.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Sting reference earlier you took the baseball bat to him.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
Come on, man, I really didn't. It was it really
was unnecessary. But but it's still we get what I'm
saying when you say, if I say to you, hey,
when you're tired shooting free throws, who do you think of? Oh?
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I think of him tugging Addy shorts. There's no okay,
all right.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
So when I say that, okay, you've been working together.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It's kind of a mind meld on some of these things.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Your mind absolutely goes there already, right, it goes so
you're absolutely you know that's where it is.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
You were there, Dad, long lived the process. I know.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Look, it's like, if you need to dig a hole,
I'm simply handing you the shot. That's all. That's all
I'm doing right there.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
You know the guy I'd never dug a hole before.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Hey, lock up, Billy Batts staying here, Billy Bat's stay
in here, keep him there. So I get it. But
I really wonder if this winds up being the the
the not fatal in the NCAA tournament. Sense cautionary tale
of Hey, this is why when you're a team like dude,
you're in the top you're you're a top twenty team,
You're gonna sit your guys in the conference tournament because
(11:27):
there's really no way. And I wonder if it's gonna
happen the next couple of days. Like, is a team
like Houston gonna say whoa whoa whoa Okay, uh yeah,
we don't need to do this, really, we don't need
to do this. Where do you say, John's gonna say, hey, whoa, whoa,
whoa whoa what when you have to.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
You have to retire the white suit? You wear the
white suit no the conference tournament because bad things could happen. Man,
bad things get happened. You red hanger, hiven that white
suit back in your hotel room.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
All right, Well, maybe Patino needs to save the white
suit for the turnament like Tiger Woods would save Red
until Sunday. Yeah, you know, I save the white suit
for the turn But he can still wear it if
he wants to, and then he's comes into Narco. Yeah.
But like Arja r J. Lewis, like, does he need
to play for Saint John when you're playing Thursday, Friday,
Saturday in three games in three days? Is that really smart? Is?
I mean? I don't know that it's not a light
(12:17):
It should have been a light bulb moment before this,
But now I think it's really gonna be a light bulb.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
But do we get it when they've obviously done enough
too on the resume to get into the tournament outa
hell with it, We're done. Sit down, Like where do
we draw the line?
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Well, no, it's it's when when when If you're a
team that is comfortably in the tournament and a win
or loss is only going to move you one one
spot or so, and that's I mean by the top twenty.
If you're a top twenty team, that if you're a
periphery top twenty five team, maybe if you're talking about
being like a six seven seed, you want to play
a little bit because there's teams that that are in
(12:53):
the top twenty five and then they lose early in
the conference tournament and they wind up getting left out.
It's a bad loss, and they draw you know, maybe
they're in the thirties or thirty five, and other teams
win their way in and team steel bids. But if
you're a top twenty team, you're you're getting in right
and if you're a if you're a team that's a
three seed and you lose in the first round of
the tournament. I also think that the conference committee. And
(13:16):
here's where things work in your favor as well. The
conference committee would look at that loss and say, yeah,
Duke did lose in the second round to Georgia Tech,
but none of their starters played. Cooper Flagg didn't play. Okay,
we're not we're not dinging you on that. That's just
a game that doesn't count in how we break down
your season, right, because I don't think that would be
the I don't think teams would say, oh, look Saint John,
(13:37):
Sat Kadari, Richmond, did everybody. Look, I can't believe they
did that. No, drop them down. They're an eight seed. Now, No,
it's okay Saint John's loss, but they rested their guys,
so yeah, they're gonna stay a two seed. Right. I
don't think that would be the.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Case, Jason. You have people listening. If there are age
or older, the probability is high that their faces are
melting like the guy and Raiders in the Lost Dark.
Right now, they're competition. Do you mean take the conference
championships off? How dare you?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
I'm simply making it more I'm just making it more
fun for the teams on the bubble, right, Like, Hey,
the great teams they're gonna get all their attention. This
is for the teams that you know we talk about
and saying, yeah, they're really not that great, but we
could still see him playing next week. That could be great. Hey,
I'm really just that big. I'm for just a big
overall bubble tournament. Like hey, have one one selection Sunday
(14:26):
where we let in the definitive teams and then everybody
else gets invited to a tournament this week. And this
is where we play the big bubble tournament and teams
play like three games round robin, and you see who's
most impressive, and those teams wind up getting the final selections.
I'm even rough for something like that.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Oh I keep behind that.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Yeah, yeah I have that in Vegas. Sure see, now
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by Tractor Supply for life out here. Now speaking of
bracket tournament, now, I said this, I need to kind
of like like I think like a dog. I need
(17:15):
to mark my territory on this. Uh yeah, I am
one hundred percent Saint John's. Although I don't care what
the draw is. I don't care who they play Saint
John's all the way through. I mean it's I'm never
gonna ever get a chance again to to have the
team that I grew up rooting for. There was my
boyhood team in my hometown. Half a season like this.
Saint John's hasn't been this good in twenty five.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Has been a minute, yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Right, forty years like I'm going back to eighty five
and Chris Mullen and Walter Berry and Mark Jackson and that,
I mean Mark Jackson was the point guard the last
time Saint John's is this good. I am just saying
I don't care. I don't care if Saint John's has
to play Duke Houston, Auburn Alabama. I don't care what
their draw is. I am taking Saint John's to win
it all.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
I enjoy the cut of your jib. So many of
others have jumped on that bandwagon, because what are they
They're still at like twenty five to one though, so
the betting public hasn't jumped on board just yet. But
maybe they haven't seen enough pictures of the white suit.
Maybe we all oroprogate that across the interwebs a little
more fervently.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, well that that? Or or watch Codari Richmond and
his triple double from the other night, or r J
Lewis of the Year.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
It's about the white suit?
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Watch them?
Speaker 3 (18:27):
How you get people to put their five dollars in?
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh? Man up? Tell well that's that is true. Come on,
don't you want to see Patino in the white suit? Yeah?
I guess so. Wait, how does that help? If I
pick then, it doesn't matter. Just pick them, just just
pick them.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
Once upon a time, and you know, we we channeled
everything back into our broadcasting world. Big games were defined
by uh who was calling it? Right? Super Bowl with Fox?
This year there's Brady uh and ready to go and
and Summer all in mad and and all that for
all these years and now it's hey, is Petino gonna
wear the white suit?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Know?
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Well that'll decide how big a game it is.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Let's see, Oh like Jim McMahon's headband, nor what's he
gonna write in his headband? What's he gonna say in
the headband?
Speaker 3 (19:08):
I gotta buy one of those Patino sweater cards though,
especially have one in the in the studio with us.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
What do you got, Frostburg?
Speaker 3 (19:16):
How does Patino drink red wine in that white suit?
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Very carefully? I think I think actually he has someone,
he has someone drink it for him. That that's I
think he just he just smells it and then someone
else drinks it.
Speaker 3 (19:28):
Is just where the sippy cup comes out.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, or how about this? How about because this would
be a great thing for Patino, how about this for
some sort of uh maybe Scotch Guard or somebody like
wearing the white suit. You know, in a commercial, someone
hands in red wine to celebrate a win and he
spills it. But it just rolls right off the suit.
You don't even see it. Oh that's Scotch Guard or
whatever it is. Wow, Oh I gotta buy that that
(19:51):
water making suit. It just it just throws.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Usually more flammable.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
I don't know if you want to put fire in
a commercial.
Speaker 3 (20:01):
I mean, I don't know if you're just saying that, yeah,
waked away, I don't know, some of it residue remained.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Well, truth and advertising. Here's the thing. Look, you can
spill red wine on this and look it's not going
to show up. But watch it. You just someone just
turns a lighter on and the and it and it
just goes up in flames like Gabriel Byrne in Midsummer
Sorry spoiler, all of a sudden, Just whoa what happened?
The flame is all the way over here?
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That suit is the suit? Is that catchy? It's just
that catchy.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
See you're the one that brought up Midsummer not me.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Well, that's what I thought when I think of okay again,
when I think of people going on fire for no reason. Oh,
there's there's that scene from Midsummer See.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
I always just thought about, you know when we were
playing NBA jam.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
He's on fire. Yes, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in for
Cavino and Rich today here on Fox Sports Radio, and
incredibly sad news you want to get to from the
world of college basketball. It's this news is about an
hour or so old right now. John Feinstein, one of
the greatest writers in the history of sports, has passed
(20:59):
away at the age of sixty eight. It's not known
a lot about what happened, but he passed away at
his brother's home. His brother making the announcement not too
long ago, and we throw around the word legend really,
you know, very carelessly sometimes and just ah, legend, legend.
I don't know that there's a bigger sports writing legend
(21:20):
that has spanned more years of his career than John Feinstein,
because what he did in nineteen eighty five with his
very first book, A Season on the Break, which is
one of the most famous sports books of all time,
following Indiana basketball around for a year and it was
the year before they won the national title, and it
was it was groundbreaking. It was I've never seen someone
(21:41):
do this, but we've had incredible writers who have chronicled
seasons before. David Halberstam is a tremendous writer. His career
is incredible. But what John Feinstein was able to do
was to to take certain topics in sports that wasn't
here's the story of last year World Series champion and
we're slapping a book out. It was here's something that
(22:04):
sounds interesting, and you read the book and you say, oh,
my goodness, that was one of the best books I've
ever read. Right, he wrote a book on the Patriot
League from the nineteen ninety nine season, right because he
wanted to write about what it was, the Last Amateurs,
what it was called. It was about because you know,
back then, nobody got scholarships, and I don't think people understood, oh, hey,
Ivy League doesn't get scholarships. A good walk spoiled about
(22:26):
a season on the PGA Tour Tales from Q School,
which he wrote about guys that are just trying to
get their Q card and get to the PGA Tour.
Stuff that you wouldn't think that would be something that
would that would be, oh, this is really interesting, and
all of a sudden it's oh my god, I can't
get enough of this book, right, like he wrote. My
favorite Feinstein book that he wrote was the Army Navy book,
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where he followed Army and Navy in nineteen ninety five.
He followed both of them and everything was about building
towards the game at the end of the year, right
was between Army Navy, and it was just outstanding. I mean,
he wrote so many books that were like this of
this ilk and everybody's got their favorites. But I read
that book thirty years ago, right I read I read
Civil War Army Navy thirty years ago, and I still
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remember people from the book. I remember Jim Cantaloup, who
was the big star player for Army in nineteen ninety five,
and they would ask him what kind of name is
that and he would say it's produce, right, Like I
still remember because that's how much that.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
That's my favorite, Melanie, that's a good one.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
That's how much I remember that book and all of
the books he wrote, and certain things that still stick out.
And and I've read probably two thirds to three quarters
of all those books. Like he wrote forty books. I
didn't read the any of the he wrote some young
adult lot last few years, and he had some series
with which I just haven't read, but all his other ones,
I mean I don't read, you know me, I don't
read a lot of sports books. But when he comes
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out with something that's, oh yeah, I want to read
it because I don't really care if it's something that
is interesting to me off the bat, I know he's
going to make it interesting. And that was always something
and that's what some of that's what the best writers
can make you do. Here's a book. Even when I
read novels now, you know, because I read all the time. Now,
I read probably fifty books a year I read a book.
It doesn't matter. Sometimes the plot doesn't matter if you're
(24:04):
telling me a great story and you're telling us something
where I just find myself getting lost in the pages.
And John Finstein was able to do that time and
time again.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Forty four books published the Young young adult series. Certainly
I would take my daughters to the library or over
to a Barnes and Noble and you'd see a giant
sections like that guy is a big deal, and now
he's crossed over into this section. So trying to move
some of those books over from the rest of his stash,
(24:33):
just saying hey, mom, Dad, grab these while you're here.
But we were just talking about him a couple of
weeks ago at the passing of Gene Hackman, right because
you know, you get into Brian dennahe and his portrayal
of Bob Knight versus you know, Dale and what we
had with Gene Hackman and all of that. So season
(24:54):
on the brink, and people maybe didn't love the movie
adaptation of it as much.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It was weird. It was. It was a little with
very avant garde and very strange how they did it,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
But it's that kind of thing where it's like, all right,
this is how we we get that cross section and
crossover and and sometimes that's what it takes, is you
get stuff uh put into film made for TV movies, uh,
television series, whatever else some of our favorites. But a legend,
I mean used to be just a constant companion on
(25:27):
on some of those sports reporters shows back in the day. Uh,
especially when we're getting to this time of year. So
good thoughts with his family's friends and and certainly go
check out the the IMDb and and and the the
history and and get back to reading folks.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Uh. Now you know what this is leading to. You know,
I have a great John Feinstein story. Of course, you
you know I have one, right, Okay, this is because
I think I think about this and it was actually
it's so it's so weird that it was during conference
championship week. There's my John Finstein story. So this is
a I'm not gonna say some of the names just
because you know, we don't have to, but John Findese's
(26:05):
name you need to know. So I was doing radio
show during the day about twenty is, twenty ish years ago,
and at this point, John Feinstein was not just an author,
but he was really active in being a college basketball insider. Right.
He was on TV, not just sports reporters. He did
pieces for ESPN on college basketball, like he was it. So,
(26:28):
I'm doing a show in the afternoons. We're doing a
show and my partner and it was kind of this
person's show, and I was the co host and John
Feinstein was coming on and the host gets this idea
and he says, hey, what if we do this? And
I said what He's what if we have because we're
having Feinstein on today and tomorrow. Right, he was coming
on Thursday and Friday for conference championship. He was coming
on at the end of the day Thursday previewing Friday's games. Okay, great,
(26:52):
what if we do a whole segment with him? And
we do it like the games tomorrow have already happened,
and we're saying who the winners are, and then tomorrow
we'll play it back and see if we were right.
And I said, wait, wait, what do you want to do?
I don't understand. He goes, do the segment like the
games that were preving have already happened. I said, okay,
So we say, like Duke wins you know this this
(27:14):
and Latner does this where yeah, yeah, yeah, we do it,
and then tomorrow we have fine scene on again. We
play it back and see if we're right, and I
go okay, and I think and I go, hm, how
do I say this? What do I say? And I said,
weh Maybe I don't know, and I knew John finds
Stein a little bit from when we overlapped a little
bit of ESPN. I go, yeah, I don't know, because
he's coming on in like five minutes right like we're
(27:36):
getting we're getting ready for the commercial break coming into
when he comes on the air. And I said, yeah,
I don't know. I don't know if that's something to
spring on him right now. I don't know if he's
someone that would I don't know. Do you think he'd
like that idea? I mean, I don't know. And I
just throw that out there, right and I say, you know,
I said my piece. He tells the producer his idea.
Producer says, all right, well, let me throw it by
Feinstein before we have him on and see what he says.
(27:58):
I'm like, okay, So I feel like we're on the
same page here, and I'm going oh please. I hope
Feinstein hates this idea. I really hope he hates it.
But he finds a way to be very tactful, and
I hope, you know, I mean, what are we gonna do?
What are we gonna do? What's he gonna say? So
we're in commercial and we're like two three minutes out
from the segment, and the produce says, Okay, I'm gonna
I'm gonna. I told Feinstein you had an idea you
(28:19):
wanted to run by him. Let me patch him through
to you, so you so you can tell him what
it is. Okay, Great? So he patches find Stein through.
He says, hey, don't I do it? Hey, guys, what's
going on? Hey? Great? And and you know, the host says, hey,
what if I was thinking about this right? What if
instead of talking about the games today and previewing the
games tomorrow, we talk about the games tomorrow like they've
already happened. And and and then we play this tape
(28:41):
back tomorrow and we go over and see what we
got right if we were wrong about that? And I'm
sitting here and I just have this pit in my stomach, going,
what is he gonna say? What? Just just be I'm like,
just you know, find a way to be tactful and
say it. This is what John Feinstein says. He says it. No,
I've never forgot this. He says it, just like this.
He goes, uh, you know, I think that's a terrible idea.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I'm good friend, and I'm like, okay, answing around like
we're dad.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
We're not gonna do that. Okay, We're not gonna do it.
We're just gonna talk about the games. Okay, we're here.
I am worried. How's he gonna say it? How's he
gonna say it? Is?
Speaker 5 (29:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I think that's a terrible.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
There are ideas in this world that are goods. Is
not one of them. That's a good story, though, I
have You've probably exhaled quite a bit right there.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yes, yes, And I didn't look at anybody. I just said, okay,
all right, let me get like, I'm getting my notes ready. Okay, like,
what are we gonna do.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
We're gonna predict a box for this?
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, yeah, Yeah, we're gonna talk about Carmelo Anthony and
we're gonna talk about that. Okay, great, we're gona talk
about Okay, we got this right, here. Nick Collison, all right, credit,
got my questions ready, not looking at anybody, just gonna
sit right here with my head down until we start
talking to John Finstein.
Speaker 3 (29:54):
Unless they produced the little hat that Johnny Carson wore
his Karnak showing, oh, then maybe it could work.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Exit out bout of Fresca, Exit swollen Dome. Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon in for Cafino and Rich Today. Hey, be
sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel.
Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a
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(30:22):
What a life? What a career? Time out to find
out what's trending in the wide world of sports with
Isaac lohencron I Lo. What do you got for us?
Speaker 5 (30:29):
Hey, guys. Interesting news today out of the world of
Major League Baseball, the Tampa Bay Rays announced that they're
abandoning their plans to build a new ballpark and instead
or planning to return to Tropicana Field in twenty twenty six.
The Rays here in twenty twenty five going to be
playing their home games at Steinbrenner Field and at Tampa.
In college basketball earlier today, in the ACC Tournament quarterfinals,
(30:53):
Number one Duke defeated Georgia Tech seventy eight to seventy,
but Duke star Cooper Flagg left the game with a
spring lef ankle. Head coach John Shire said X rays
were negative and that it will be a long shot
for him to play in the semi finals tomorrow. In
the NFL, former Miami Dolphins running back Raheem most It
signing a one year, two million dollar deal with the
Las Vegas Raiders. Quarterback Mason Rudolph signing with the Pittsburgh
(31:16):
Steelers for two years and eight million dollars. Steelers also
resigning receiver Ben Scernik. The Washington Commanders resigning receiver Noah Brown.
I was gonna tell you something about Noah Brown, but
I think I'll.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
No, don't leave leave Chicago Bears. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (31:33):
Oh my gosh, I just got hit with two laser
beams through the glass. So I'm glad I left that short.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
Can you leave out the biggest play he had last year?
Just leave, just leave it. No one needs to know,
and we all remember, We all remember Noah Brown. No
you bring it up.
Speaker 5 (31:47):
No need to bring up the play by no h. Finally,
NBC has extended its Olympic rights deal with the International
Olympic Committee for three billion dollars, comprising their coverage of
the twenty three prey four Winter Olympics in Salt Lake
City as well as the twenty thirty six Summer Games. Guys,
back to.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
You, thanks a bunch, Eilo. Uh, you know that that
Tampa Bay Rays story, Mike. I you know, we always
look in, We always look and uh, every so often
we go, wow, this guy's the worst owner in sports,
right and so far, like Woody Johnson has taken that
mantle from Jerry Jones over the course of the past year,
especially when you know when you're when your eighteen year
old son is making decisions. Oh my sweet brick.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
You know, Woody Johnson's had that. But I gotta be honest,
I think Ray's owner Stu Sternberg may be more hated
than any other owner in sports. I mean, every single
comment on this story today was sell the team. Right.
I'm like, wow, okay, why is sell the team trending? No,
it's every single thing is Stu sell the team, Sell,
sell the team sell the team.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
Well, that was a story we touched on briefly earlier
in the week that came out of the Athletic that
Rob Manford and some of the higher powered owners are
trying to pressure him into putting the team up for sale.
Into interim, they'll play at the Yankees Minor League, their
spring training facility. Steinburn Field's beautiful.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, it's ceas what thirty four hundred, thirty five hundred?
Is that what it is?
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah? I did a couple of stand ups many years
ago with a Rod and Jeter in the background, one
of my proudest moments in terms of televised network stuff
for Fox Sports Net back in the day. But yeah,
this is crazy. Just how many of these guys really
if you had the chance to just vote them off
the island like it was a reality show, how many
(33:34):
of them would go at this point?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
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get off the air. Well, we'll have more basketball coming
(33:58):
up in a bit, but straight ahead, the biggest story
of the day in NFL free agency revolves around a
quarterback who may have played his last down. That's next
right here, Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for the guys.
This is Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith
Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven
pm Pacific.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
Nice suit, don't spill that on my white suit to day,
Nice suit. I got to do a postgame presser and
I can have big red splotches all over me and
on camera. Fox Sports Radio we really hit on something,
(34:42):
Mike Harmon, that really question. I mean, Patino, that's that's
absolutely like a huge endorsement deal for him White.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
So sure, yeah, and then you get the Tide pens
and whatever else you need.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
I meant it all yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I
mean you have to get past the whole people are
having one in the sideline of a college basketball game
and it's just a commercial. Well, Lebron did it's a commercial.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Go through a broad been sitting on the bed a minute.
Speaker 1 (35:07):
That's it. Lebron's in the commercial. He's the one that he's.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Got plenty of time off right now. He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
He's hurt.
Speaker 3 (35:13):
That's it, is that Cameron, He's hurt.
Speaker 1 (35:15):
Yeah. Patino's gonna have some time off the very beginning
of next week. So we we get we get Lebron, Patina,
we shoot the commercial. Boom, it's out there. Oh I
like this commercial.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
If we do the footage right, we can also get
a trailer for a would be sequel to American Psycho. Sure,
they already had one with me, Laguritez. I'm talking, you know,
deeper into uh you know, a universe.
Speaker 1 (35:36):
Why you get so dark with that? Now?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
You brought up Midsummer earlier in the hour.
Speaker 1 (35:40):
I'm just finishing the circle Patina running into a stereo
with a chainsaw and dropping it like come.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
On, wow, I mean he wasn't wearing a suit, Netsy, and.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
He was he was wearing his birthday suit. Yeah, let's
go big news from the NFL. As we continue to
wait to find out just exactly what Aaron Rodgers and
Russell Wilson's future plans are been a lot of attention
on Rogers last couple of days. Potentially he's deciding if
(36:11):
he wants to go to the Steelers or not. But
today is really about Russell Wilson, and I think we
have to start getting around to the notion that we've
seen him play his last down in the NFL. Right
he went. He visited Cleveland today and left without a contract.
H Russell Wilson could have signed anywhere and he hasn't. Right,
(36:35):
if he was going to go back to the Steelers,
they would have signed him, if they really You don't
mess around and play and play a little bit of
chicken with your quarterback, right, you know, oh maybe we're
here now. You know, do you see a quarterback you want?
You go right after him? Right, first day of free agency? Boom,
Seahawks grabs Sam Darnold, Jets grabbed Justin Fields. And I'm
sure Roger Goodell said, Okay, enough with the quarterback news
(36:57):
for a day. Daniel Jones, can you hold your decision
till tomorrow? Yeah, that's fine. Next day, Boom Daniel Jones,
Indianapolis Colts. If Russell Wilson was a guy the Steelers wanted,
they would have gotten him, right, They would have signed
him already. If the Giants wanted Russell Wilson, they would
have signed him already. He has been out there and
he can want to play as much as he wants to.
(37:17):
But when the league tells you, hey, there's not a
lot of interest in you, and the only two teams
that seem to have any sort of interest in a
quarterback haven't signed you, are we really going to see
Russell Wilson play in the NFL? Was this visit to
the to the Browns just, hey, we're here because we
want to try to get some heat on Russell and
and and try to move the market here a little
(37:38):
bit because we're not getting anything so far, right, I mean,
I think we're kind of overestimating just what his absolute
value is on the open market. He had a good
four or five game stretch when he took over for
Justin Fields, which he probably shouldn't have taken over what
he did. But then the last few weeks he was done,
and so teams are looking at Russell Wilson in the
(37:58):
light of maybe last year that was the best thing
he had left. That was his death cry right, that
was his last moment. Was that four or five week
run when he played pretty well, but the end of
the season was really bad. Conversely, why there's a little
bit more heat on Aaron Rodgers because he ended better, Right,
He still ended the last eight to nine games of
the season was pretty good, right endo top ten in yards,
(38:18):
top ten in touchdown passes, but Wilson ended poorly. And
I mean, I see all this going on, but I
just see this as people just trying to make stuff happen. Right, Like,
the Giants could have signed Wilson and still had whatever
plan they want a quarterback going into the draft. If
Shador Sanders is there, if he's not, if cam Water's there,
if he's not, they could still have Russell Wilson into
(38:39):
one of those guys. They could still have Russell Wilson
into a quarterback they take beginning of the second round,
if it's Kyle McCord or Quinn Ewers or Jackson Dart,
whoever's there. And the fact they still haven't done so
he leaves Cleveland without a contract when Cleveland needs guys, right,
they got Kenny Pickett, who said I'm going to get
a chance to battle for the starting quarterback job this
year with whoever they bring up where it's whether it's
a veteran or whether it's a rookie. And he's still
(39:03):
sitting out there with no job. I mean, he's not
someone that's going to take a backup gig. And so
I sit here and say, get used to the fact
that we may have seen Russell Wilson play his last
down in the NFL.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
Yeah, I mean some of it becomes a ho. What
truly is the timetable for Aaron Rodgers to make a
decision in whatever he's mulling, whatever the offer is that
Dulac there for the Post Gazette reported there in Pittsburgh yesterday.
So you got that floating the Giants, Shane and Dable
have They've been given the vote of confidence that no
(39:35):
matter how bad badly this team performs in twenty five,
that they get a stay of execution to build with
a new quarterback. So you just put someone trial by
fire or do you get the placeholder to maybe ease
the suffering of their fans still smarting from whatever they
thought Saquon Barkley could have been with them, just not
(39:55):
with them, not with them. It's not we broke up, Okay,
I get it. We broke up, just not with Ham. Okay, dude,
I just went full Oceans eleven.
Speaker 1 (40:03):
It's gonna be twenty fifth. We're gonna get to the
last Bobby Benia day and people are gonna say, I
still can't believe we let Barkley go. I can't believe
we let Barkley was dude, Come on, man, that was
twelve years ago, Barkley said, retired. I still can't believe
we let him go. We would have won the super Bowl. Yeah, no, No,
that's the uncle Rico. If they coach put me in
the fourth quarter, we would have won state. No, you're not.
(40:24):
You were terrible with Saquon Barkley. You would have been terrible.
Didn't matter. He would have barely run for a thousand yards,
so it would have been awful. Just this is kind
of how it goes, you know, ta Kuon Barkley left.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, yeah, I mean sometimes you just got fuck get
better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.
But for Kenny Pickett, he's looking over his shoulder when
Russell Wilson comes walking in. I'm guessing he's doing some
lat work or something like, the hell this guy again?
I mean, I'm a super Bowl champion don't get it wrong.
I mean I got my Super Bowl, you know, alongside
uh Saquon Barkley. But Russell Wilson's gonna come knocking on
(40:56):
my door again. Come on, I don't have time to this.
And is this he's really just trying to make Miles
Garrett feel better because one of the things he said
he acted he wanted to be an active recruiter. So
I was like, I give Russell his visit.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Fine, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
A week.
Speaker 1 (41:10):
We're not going to sign him?
Speaker 4 (41:11):
Right?
Speaker 1 (41:11):
No? No, fine? Do I need to be here? No?
Not at all? Okay, great, Just let me know how
it goes.
Speaker 3 (41:15):
Is he willing to play for the minimum? That's all
I need to know.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. So we
may have seen Russell Wilson play his last down in
the NFL. More big stories out of the NFL and NBA.
Next Fox, What was that fuck?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Sorry,
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