March 14, 2025 • 40 mins
Dan Beyer & Kerry Rhodes talk about the Cincinnati Bengals reportedly getting close to an agreement with their star WR’s and what it means for their chances of actually winning games, what’s the hold up with Aaron Rodgers finding his next destination, a farewell for Fran McCaffrey, and more!
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Yes, good to be with you always. You know, we
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Speaker 1 (00:42):
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am thrown off because on Sundays, you sit in
the opposite opposite. So I looked up and I was like,
what is different about this picture?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Why different? Today?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Have seen the movie Twins? Yes, that's us, that is it.
We're just yeah, we're playing here, Danny.
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I've never seen the movie Twins. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger and
(01:42):
Danny DeVito, but I would also know the premise that
one guy is the big, tall, masculine one and then
the other one is the small, tiny, but they're twins,
so there's this dynamic that one is just extremely better
than the other. And listen, I get it, I get it,
but I just didn't think we had to go to
the Twins level.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, listen, what you're saying. It's correct on the premise
if you're on the peripheral looking. But Danny Debido was
demacho one and the tough one in that film, and
Arnold Swarzenegga was you know, he was a little bewildered
and out of his elements. So we take that as
a confidence. Okay, maybe I'll watch it this watch it. Yeah,
it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm definitely gonna skip college basketball to watch Twins. Oh no,
you're not thirty five years definitely going to happen. Carrie
and I are going to be with you for the
next two hours as we are in for the vacation
in Cavino and Rich and Spot and Danny g but
we got the whole crew with us. By the way,
are you ready, because in eighty minutes or so, you
(02:40):
are going to go head to head with Iowa Sam
Moncei and I are going to host a brand new game.
It's going to be called Initial Dissent.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
As long as it's not anything IOWA related. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Forty minutes that comes up in forty can't wait. That's
forty minutes from now where we talk about the dismissal
of Fran McCaffrey as the head basketball coach at IOWA,
which happened earlier today. What a way to go out.
That's in forty minutes right now, we talk about the
news that is just breaking within the last hour that
the NFL Network is reporting the Cincinnati Bengals have made
(03:21):
significant progress on new deals for not only t Higgins,
who has that franchise tag, but also Jamar Chase. So
the Cincinnati Bengals could be bringing back not one but
the top two favorite targets for one Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, they're doubling down on offense, winning games and winning
super Bowls. And that's just I mean, as obviously it
looks good. It's going to help help their quarterback Joe
Burrows to continue to play at the level he's playing
that but that we saw that last year scored a
ton of points. We're in a lot of games and
could have won a lot of those games, and obviously
the season could have looked differently. But defensively they struggle.
(04:01):
But the one person that didn't struggle was Trey Hendrickson.
And if they're really close to deals for their big
time receivers, it's gonna be a lot of money. So
that means there's not gonna be enough money to go
around for Trey. So looks like Trey is gonna be
heading out, and I mean they're gonna try to win games,
but it's going a.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Lot of points. And he has requested a trade. He's
gonna be in the final year of his deal and
has wanted out of Cincinnati. And this also on the
heels of the Max Crosby deal in the Miles Garrett contract. Yes,
and Trey Hendrickson, I think he's making sixteen eighteen million
dollars for twenty twenty five and you're seeing other edge
rushers get thirty five million dollars. I don't think he's
(04:41):
gonna get Miles Garrett money at forty million dollars or
not think so either, But I think that Trey Hendrickson
should be asking for that. He lived the NFL in
sacks this past year, like there's there's value to it.
It is the decision of the Cincinnati Bengals and carry
if I'm sensing correctly, And I don't want to put
words in your mouth, so I'll let you say it. Yeah,
(05:01):
are you? Are you in the sense that the Bengals
are now just extremely top heavy because of where they
are on offense, and that isn't sustainable if you want
to win a Super Bowl is the Is that the
sense that I'm getting from you.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, that's that's exactly what I'm saying. I mean, obviously, yes,
it's gonna sell tickets and Burrows and those guys, Burroughs
and Chase Higgins and you know, and and Chase, I mean, Chase,
thank you. They're gonna put up numbers. And they've they've
done that since they've been in the league, right, And
we've seen what that looks like. But we've also seen
when Cincinnati had a defense that was you know, I
(05:37):
think they were top ten that year or they're around
that like ten fifteen range where they can actually get
stops and get the ball back to their guys. They
made it to the Super Bowl, right, And so that's
the formula for them. They have to get to a
point where they're competing on that side of the ball,
because last year they couldn't even compete. And so if
you lose your top game wrecker on defense, that doesn't
bowl well for you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I agree with what you're saying, and I'm actually on
the same page with you, and I'm not arguing or
I'm not playing Devil's advocate. I'm almost trying to figure
out a way to look at this from just a
different angle. But to your point of what you're saying,
last year was a bad year for lou Ana Rumo's defense,
so much so he's not even around anymore. He's out.
(06:19):
His defensive coordinator Al Golden comes in from Notre Dame
to lead the Bengals defense. There were a lot of
players from that Super Bowl team in Super Bowl fifty
six on the defensive side of the ball that are
no longer in Cincinnati. A big, big you know, a
lot of moves made with players going in and out,
not the same defense at all. To coincide with what
(06:39):
you're saying, I think we saw last year what happens
when you have a top quarterback, top wide receiver and
a top wide receiver duo and no defense. We saw
that on display, And I actually think that last year
was best case scenario for Cincinnati in the fact of
you had Joe Burrow for the entire season. He had
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to play at an MVP caliber where we were considering,
all right, they're nine and eight, they're not even gonna
make the playoffs, but is he really the MVP. Everything
had to go right. Jamar Chase had to be what
he is the top wide receiver in the National Football League.
T Higgins has dealt with injuries time and again throughout
the last couple of years. That kind of happened in
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twenty twenty four as well. But the point being is,
I think everything went right for the Bengals offensively, and
it was how bad they were on defense that they
maxed out at nine and eight. So to your point,
I'm wondering if nine and eight is your only max out,
if you decide to operate your franchise this way and
with the amount of dollars that you were assigning to
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those three players, I don't know how you feel a
respectable defense.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, that's the problem, right, And I think that's why
if you look at just roster organization and roster building
and teams that have long time success, they're able to,
you know, sometimes make tough decisions, which is maybe we
can't we can't pay two top receivers to stay here,
(08:10):
and that's part of the process, right. We can bring
in another guy that may be just a step down
from from you know, you know, from their second guy
and T Higgins and bring in guy to guys that
can be one guy that can be an outside guy,
guy that can be a slot guy that can be
really good for you and still hold that production and
also bring back your top defensive guys. So it's just
(08:32):
there's creative ways to do this and creative ways to
build and keep an organization in the place they need
to be. And I just don't think Cincinnati's brain trust
is having enough were athal when it comes to we
just can't keep everybody happy sometimes, and that's part of
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's easy to give Joe Burrow what he wants or
what chamar Chase. It's easy to do the easy thing right,
doesn't mean it's always best for you. A lot of
times what's best for you isn't the easy thing right.
And I think that's what we're saying. I looked at
the NFL and looked at the wide receiver salary position.
There's one team in the National Football League that has
(09:09):
actually two teams. Two teams have two receivers on their
own team paid in the top ten. One is the
Philadelphia Eagles, AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. When it comes
to average annual salary, AJ Brown's average annual salary is
thirty two million dollars a year. Devonte Smith's is twenty
five million dollars a year, so they're both in the
(09:31):
top ten. But I don't think that we thought that
the Eagles won the Super Bowl because of their two
star wide receivers. No, the other team, the Miami Dolphins,
Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. Wow. And I know I'm
not comparing two of Joe Burrow. Jie Burrow is a
better quarterback, and I think that Chase and T Higgins
are better wide receivers than that duo that they have
(09:54):
in Miami. But you can't take away what Tyreek Hill
has meant for the Dolphins over the last couple of years.
Even ify T twenty four was a bit of a letdown.
Tyreek Hill at one point probably was the best wide
receiver in the NFL. And why did it get the
Miami Dolphins. And I think that's what you're saying this
is the Dolphins even have tried this and it hasn't
necessarily worked, and they've tried to do other deals. They
(10:14):
brought in Bradley Chubb from you know, in a trade
with Denver. They had a lot of assets at one point.
Then they lost some of their assets, whether doing deals
or NFL even penalized them for the tampering of Tom Brady.
There's there was a lot there for Miami, but in
the end, they're like, we're gonna put our eggs in
this basket. We're going to bring in Tyreek Hill, We've
got Jaalen Wahall, and we got to a tongue baaloa.
(10:35):
And what do they have to show for it? A
first round wildcard exit in a road game against the
Kansas City Chiefs and the Bengals have already been to
a super Bowl. So you're looking at it and saying, great,
all right, Cincinnati, let's run it back again. I just
don't think it's sustainable. And I don't think that everything
can go right for Cincinnati like it did in twenty
twenty four when they didn't even make the playoffs. Like,
(10:55):
at some point you got to address your offensive line
as well, So you got to protect Joe Burrow, who
has I don't want to say been injury prone, but
it has been hurt throughout at times in his career. Right,
and now you've got that. I just wonder as well.
I just think they're kind of taking the easy way
out on this.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And that, and what that does for a team. Right,
think about how good Joe Burrows was last year and
the numbers were remarkable and the stats and you know,
obviously one of the most explosive teams in the league.
But what that does for you is that puts constant
pressure on you to go out and do that thing,
to go out and do that, to score, to put
(11:32):
up big points and outscore teams. And so that what
happens in those situation is you play a good team.
When you're right there neck and neck, obviously the other
team's going to continue to score because your defense can't
stop anybody. So it puts pressure on those offensive guys
to almost overachieve every game because there's a level that
I think great players can play at play at consistently,
(11:55):
and that's it's only two people on that team on Cincinnati,
even on the offense side of the ball that it's great. See,
Higgins is a really really, really good receip so if
he has any drop off and the Lion can't protect,
you're forcing two guys to go out and be superhuman
every game and you just can't do that. And so
that's what happened last year in the moments that really count,
with him. How many cutch turnover was that Joe Burrows
(12:18):
have in those situations because he's trying to force the
ball in because he's he's not going to get the
ball back if they don't get this touch down with
four minutes left in the game.
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What if this is a Dallas Maverick situation? Oh, here
(12:45):
we go.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Sorry, I can't believe it, Bo, What are you laughing at?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So? Actually, I actually tried this out on Bowl in
our in our conversations pre show, and he did not
laugh in my face, so I did. So I think
Bo knows what's coming here. What about if it's more
important to Cincinnati to keep this trio than win a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And the fact of what keeping people in the seats
is what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, like I felt when the Mavericks traded Luca It
was so devastating that even winning a championship for Dallas
wouldn't make up for the fact that those Maverick fans
don't have Luca to cheer for anymore, because I felt
like he was so a part of that team and
then a part of that city that it winning a
(13:35):
championship without Luca wasn't going to be the same of
not only of them winning one with Luca, but of
just having Luca on that team. What about if Cincinnati
is saying it's not that they're not going to compete
with Super Bowls, because when you have Joe Burrow, you
have a shot. You have a shot better than most
teams in the league because of where who your quarterback is.
That is undeniable. But the fact of them saying, we
(14:00):
could make all these moves, we could make these difficult decisions.
We could let t Higgins go, we could try to
go cheap, we could try to make trades, we could
invest the money somewhere else. Maybe they bring Trey Hendrickson back,
Maybe they don't. What the point is is they want
to keep this trio together because of what it means
to Cincinnati. Would that make any sense to you? I'm
calling it the the Luka doncic Nico Harrison rule.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It makes absolutely zero sense. Okay, all right, yeah, those
guys Joe Burrows. Obviously you can't lose a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
T Higgins.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm sorry. I know we want to pay him. I
know he's a really good receiver. He can go kick
rocks and we can bring in a couple of guys
that can feel that role. I'm just telling it's this,
And even for the protection of Joe Burrow going out
and trying to screw all these points, you're putting him
in a position to get hurt as well because they're
not sound. You got to be sound in the NFL
(14:55):
to win.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
All right, Okay. Another layer to this, Adam Schefter reporting
that Jamar Chase wants more more than forty million dollars
a year. He wants, whether it be forty point one
or forty one million dollars, he wants to be the
highest paid non quarterback per average annual salary in the
National Football League. That hits your ear? Are you fine
(15:17):
with Jamar Chase being the highest paid non quarterback in
the National Football League? He'll be making if he got
forty one million dollars a year. That's six million dollars
more than the highest paid wide receiver right now in
the game annually, and that's Justin Jefferson at thirty five million. No,
you're not good with that. No, so thirty eight is
(15:38):
what you think?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, what you just said. Six If he made one
dollar more than Justin Jefferson in theory, he should be happy.
And if he's really committed to winning, and what we're
talking about right now the conversation is winning super Bowls.
We know they can win games if they want to
do that sacrifice a little bit. And I know they're young,
(15:58):
and I know they're this is this would be his
first you know, I guess extended big contract. He was
the first round, top guy, so he's gotten paid, but
this will be the big one. So I understand it.
But there are dollars and there are ways to construct
this thing, and he can be he can be re
upped in the next offseason where I mean he may
thirty six point one. They can move things around to
where the annual salary goes up the dollar amount with
(16:22):
guaranteed in the next next season.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There's ways to do it. The tricky part about it,
and I think that's a really good point. You're not
just trying to top Justin Jefferson, you're trying to top
Miles Garrett. But by blowing past Justin Jefferson, the next
wide receiver that's up for the contract is not going
to reach forty one million dollars. They're going to be
very few. So Jamar Chase is going to be the
(16:44):
highest paid wide receiver if he gets set forty one
million dollars for a while in the National Football League.
So that isn't a team thing. That's not the Heatles
kind of taking different contracts in Miami to fit Lebron, Wade,
and Bosh. Not that they took extreme discounts, but everybody
wasn't maxed out. Some people took a little bit less year.
That's not what you're getting in Cincinnati. So maybe another
(17:05):
reason why it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Would you guys feel differently about all of this if
it was a team other than the Bengals about to
allocate all these resources.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's I will say this. I know you're not getting
at this, but I've thought about this. I think them
going to the Super Bowl already allows them to do this,
Like it's like a hey, we made it to a
super Bowl already, when it's a weird way of thinking.
Usually you're putting all of your eggs in the basket
to get to that Super Bowl. Or for that point,
(17:37):
I'm almost thinking that they're saying, yeah, our kind of
work is done. Not looking them at the Bengals as
the woe mee Bengals, the down trodden, the cheap Bengals.
I don't look at it like that. I look at
it just from a different angle of I think them
going to the super Bowl like they did three years
ago is enough for them to be like, all right,
(17:58):
we did our stuff. Pay us down. If it doesn't
work out, it doesn't matter because they've already got that
in their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I just feel like, when you're that team allocating all
those resources to really those three guys, you have to
be able to find good young defensive talent for cheap
in the draft, right. And the Bengals have six scouts
total in their organization, right, A team like the Rams,
who they play in the Super Bowl have twenty five,
And like, if you're the Bengals, how are you gonna
find that cheap talent?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, we gotta talk about think about it. We're talking
about the Bengals right under Marvin Lewis. They were very
content with him for a long long time of just
being competitive, a team that could, you know, make the
playoffs here and there and never won a playoff game.
Like it's crazy. He was there for how long, I know,
ten plus years and they never won a playoff game.
(18:47):
They made it a couple of times. So to your point,
being content with we already got our super Bowl could
be a thing, but I just it just it irks me.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
They may and they were a penalty of fifteen yard
late hit out of bounds penalty from taking the Chiefs
into overtime and possibly beating them again. Oh yeah, yeah
for sure. Yeah. So it's it's so like all of
that is is gravy to Bo's point of only having
six scouts, they need to hire me, then well, I mean,
well I guess they don't have any money, so probably
(19:17):
I was gonna say that was just like like to
his point, it's like that you better have better scouts
so you can find those diamonds in the rough. And
I think they're thinking, well, who cares who we get
because we can only pay him X amount anyway, and
if they're any good, we're probably not gonna be able
to keep them long term.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Dan and I can scout from home. I can do
I can do a home job. It can be really cool.
I can just look online and see, you know, look
at look at guys forty times and look how many
times they bench.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Press and probably be a better upgrade. Right, there's a
there's a theme. I think you could. I think you'd
have to fit it in during your studio time on scouting.
There is the conversation that we've had over the last
fifteen years, I would say in the NFL, and what
star receiver has really led you to a Super Bowl? Now?
Cooper Cup I think obviously was where is Yes, oddly
(20:01):
enough against Cincinnati and Super Bowl fifty six that ended
up happening if the Bengals hold on, so they're twenty
eight to three. Julio Jones, I think is a part
of that conversation. But really there there hadn't been. And
I think that the bigger question than was what duo
of wide receivers you had greatest show on turf with
the Rams and Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce when their
(20:22):
Super Bowl like they did in Super Bowl thirty four.
You had Reggie Wayne Marvin Harrison with the Colts in
Super Bowl forty one, but again in that game, outside
of a busted coverage from Reggie Wayne, it wasn't a
great offensive game for the Colts. It's also just the
point of, yeah, do you need great wide receivers to
win a Super Bowl? And yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And to your point that ram one. I mean, obviously
Holt and Bruce were great, but the person on that
team that won them that Super Bowl, that made things
so much easier for those guys wasn't either one of them.
It was Marshall falk Oh. Yeah, he comes to the
game and that's the number one guy you gain planned for. Like,
those guys were great, and I'm not taking anything away
(21:05):
from them. Their Hall of Fame as we know that,
but Marshall Faulk was the main, the main sticking point there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's a good point. He's carry Rhodes, He's an All
Pro for a reason. Final to make Carrie twenty five roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Are
you still on ex bo? I can't remember you're on?
Speaker 3 (21:20):
You're off? At Bono Jackson?
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Okay, at Boonot Jackson he's back. He is also Blue Sky. Yes,
he's on Blue Sky. Are you really active on Blue Skuy?
Speaker 5 (21:29):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
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I've also got my eye on some golf ax Shay
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There's two shots back. Should be a great weekend. I
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Speaker 4 (22:50):
About to ask me if I didn't know anything that
was going on about that golf you were talking about.
I have no idea, So I was gonna be like, you.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Know about the Island Green at seven? Have you heard
about the Island Green at TPC Sawgrass? Okay, I know
I'm a golf fan, but I just I felt like
I asked the crew last night and I got four
blank looks at me. I thought it was much more
known in the world of sports of people who aren't
golf fans. But see they're at the seventeenth right now,
(23:19):
and he's going to be hitting to an island green
that is one hundred and forty seven yards away, surrounded
ninety nine percent of it by water. It's gonna hold on.
It's gonna hold on, and it's gonna be a long
putt and hold on, hold on. That's what I tell
my golf ball. Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That's what I noticed. I was like, a hold on,
it's pretty water. I was like, there's a lot of
water around it. That's what I noticed.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I had the good fortune of playing TPC Sawgrass. It's
been a while, about fifteen years ago. I was the
first one out on a Monday, second one out. I
passed the group ahead of me on the fourth hole,
so I basically had the course to myself. And I
saw an alligator in the pond between sixteen and seventeen. Yep,
this is he thinking its head out.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Did you aim for it with the ball? No? What
were you thinking?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, I'll tell you. When I hit the shot on seventeen,
I did land it on the green, but it rolled
back and was on the fringe and almost rolled into
the water. That's about where the pin was, to be honest,
where it is today, just like that ball, and my
ball stopped there, and then I blew the putt ten
feet past because I'm like, it's a birdie putt. I
ended up three putting for a bogie. But I thought
the Island Green was much more popular in the entire
(24:28):
sports world than it is.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Eitherwise, you misjudged that one, just like Trey Henderson's market.
So I think, uh, yeah, that's all right.
Speaker 1 (24:36):
Well, I'll tell you if I ever go to TBC
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All right, Manzie, let's give Carrie Rhodes is Duke Cooper
flag update because he's going to be rushing out of
here for the ACC semifinals. What is going on today,
MONTI in the world of sports.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, this just came out, but it should not be
a surprise that Cooper Flag is out for tonight's ACC
semi final game against North Carolina because of that ankle injury. Again,
not a surprise. The coach Hats said it was a
very long shot that he was going to be able
to play, and so he is officially out right now.
In the SEC quarter final, you know, the Texas Longhorns
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were given the Texas the Tennessee volunteers or run for
their money. But right now, a ranked Tennessee is up
sixty seven to fifty six with about seven minutes to
go in the game. Earlier in the SEC, Jeni Broom
had twenty three points and fifteen rebounds for third ranked Auburn.
They defeated Ole Miss sixty two to fifty seven. At
the Big Ten quarterfinals, Number eighteen Wisconsin topped UCLA eighty
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six to seventy. Well Number seven Michigan State outscored Number
twenty three Oregon seventy four to sixty four, and at
the AAC quarterfinals, Number sixteen has survived eighty three to
eighty against Wichita State. Iowa has parted ways with coach
Friend McCaffrey after fifteen seasons. He reached the he reached
seven NCAA tournaments and his fifteen years and is the
school's all time leader and wins with two undred and
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ninety seven. But Iowa finished seventeen and sixteen this year.
And the NBA Lakers are going to have nobody tonight,
No Lebron James, no Luca doncz no, no jackson' hayes,
Dorian Finney, Smith and Gave Vincent are doubtful for tonight's
game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What about Michael Jones.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I got to stretch it out there. I may not
make the Duke game now.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Name there? What I didn't hear Brownie's name there?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Ronnie's name is not in there, so he might. He
might be a starting that is for sure. And in
the NFL, you guys started the show that yes, reports
are that the Bengals have made significant progress on contract
extensions which mark Chase anti Higgins. Both deals could be
finalized in the coming days. NFL Network first with the story.
Then ESPN reported that the league expectation is that Jamar
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Chase is going to get somewhere around forty point one
million to forty one million, topping Miles Garrett, made him
the highest payton on a quarterback in the NFL by
to you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
We don't have any news on Aaron Rodgers on except
Diana Rossini saying that the Vikings are still wondering what
they should do. They've only had You've only had and
it's not even a month carry It's more than that.
You likely knew Sam Donald wasn't going to be back.
It was more of a question when he was playing
at that MVP level, But once they got ousted from
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the wild card round, they're sure didn't seem to be
a sentiment that he would return, considering how he played
in this final couple of games of the season. But
if you weren't sold on JJ McCarthy or you weren't
ready for him to be it, didn't think that he
was going to be healthy enough. Isn't this decision more
in the forefront of your mind than sitting right now?
And it's just it seems to be a mess when
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it comes with Aaron Rodgers, because I'm not sure Vikings
fans even want Aaron Rodgers in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, I mean, could be true. I don't know. I
do know that you're right though, they should have had
a contingency plan and it seems like even during the season,
they were already having a contingency plan, right They brought
in Daniel Jones late late in the season, and obviously
I never thought he was the guy. But you're bringing
in these guys to see what they can do and
see if you can you know, Kevin O'Connell's great at
(28:22):
being a quarterback quote unquote. You guys can't see this.
I'm doing their quotes a quarterback whisperer, right, And so
if you get guys in that have had a little
success and you could actually bring them in close to
your facility, your program, see what they're about. Obviously, Daniel
Jones wasn't that guy, but they should have been thinking
about this, and especially with the strets that you know
Dnald had down, you know, closing out the season this year,
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they should have had a plan in place. And Aaron
Rodgers right now, even if JJ McCarthy is going to
be the guy, you want him to have some type
of guy, a veteran guy in there who could potentially
be the guy that can play and if he needs
time even during the season, why not bring in Airon Rodgers.
That doesn't really make any sense.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I'll say I'll say this, I don't think you bring
in Aaron Rodgers for him to back up JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh no, no, not the backup. I'm saying, yeah, if
Jaj isn't ready, yeah, I mean he added a catastophic injury.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Gout, so then yeah, to that point, then what are
you saying about JJ McCarthy. Are you long playing this?
Are you already selling your stock on this? Because Aaron
Rodgers is coming off of that thirty eight one hundred
yard season that carry loves to talk about.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's correct and the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Numbers are there. I thought he would retire. Sure doesn't
seem like he's going to. But you're also leaving the
Pittsburgh Steelers sitting there hanging because that's the decision. And
I get what you're saying about being that mentor to
JJ McCarthy, but doing so as the starter with McCarthy
the backup, you have the starting job in Pittsburgh if
you want it. And Minnesota apparently one free agency which
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I don't know is they've give awards for that, but
I've been seeing a plus for Minnesota and all the
signings they've done and what they've done for their offensive line.
But a lot of times free agency doesn't win you
Super Bowls, And I'm just saying, is Minnesota in a
way felt. I don't want to say lightning in a
bottle because a lot of the pieces are there, but
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Sam Darnold for those fifteen weeks was lightning in a bottle.
And I'm sure they're thinking, well, if we can get
that from a consistent quarterback that's not gonna maybe fold
in Week eighteen or or be under pressure and make
the decisions he made in a wild card game, then
we should be fine. But almost like the Bengals, like,
you're not gonna run it back exactly how it is.
They're fortunate that Brian Flores is back. You didn't get
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an EDG coaching job, so he returns next season. So
I get while there's optimism there, Aaron Jones comes back,
you have top wide receivers, but man too, I just
Vikings fans don't want Aaron Rodgers. I would say, if
you had to ask them if they want him or not,
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they would say no. And I think it's different from
when Brett Faarr was there, because this was a team
that had just been searching and they would love to
stick it to the Green Bay Packers and Farv was
still playing at a high level at that point, and
then when he went to Minnesota almost takes them to
a super Bowl. But I don't know if I think,
if I'm a Vikings fan, i'd rather just see what
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JJ McCarthy has at this point now. If it is
injury related, right, completely different story. But if it's injury related,
now I'm concerned that JJ McCarthy's just future as a whole.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, the crazy part about the Brett Favre element that
you threw in, because obviously this would be the same
route for Aaron Rodgers, right Green Bay Jets to Minnesota,
I'd hit back on you and say, as a teammate
of Brett Farv's, he played okay, he wasn't great, and
there were questions coming off that offseason. He injured his
elbow during his shoulder or his elbow during that last
season with US, and I thought he was going to retire,
(31:58):
so similar to what you're saying. So I don't know
if Minnesota even thought that he was that good or not,
but I think it's more about sticking it to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
What you said on the ladder, sure that he teamed
up with Brad Childress, and they did make a run
because they you know what I mean, NFC Championship game.
I just think it's a different sort of feel than
just the Vikings dynamic as a team. Back then, I
felt that it fit better than what Rogers is doing.
(32:29):
It almost feels like now the Vikings as Rogers awaits
for what they're doing, the Vikings are trying to decide
not whether Rogers can play, but whether they want to
enter into everything that comes with Aroon Rodgers. So you know,
to that point, and you're saying that for farv it
was more of a conversation, but it worked out for them.
I also feel that the Vikings at that point where
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they were would have done anything, and I still think
that they feel that way because they haven't been back
to a Super Bowl. Still haven't obviously won a Super Bowl.
You know, the last Super Bowl they were in was,
you know, forty fifty years ago. Who was the coach then,
Dan Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I can't remember right now when they went to the
Super bowls No, No, when Brett came Brad Childers.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Okay, yes, I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Just trying to correlate the head coaches too, because Kevin
O'Donnell had such a firm grip on that team as well.
The Aaron Rodgers part of it could be, you know,
an issue.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's the that's the drama
with it. Bo Benson is just mad that everybody is
forcing him to Minnesota to complete this era, to complete
this Brett mirror.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Kurrie and I have kind of talked about this before,
but it does feel like there's some wish casting going
on here too, where it's everybody wants to see Aaron
Rodgers complete the Brett Favre career tour. So it's just like, well,
maybe if we like post enough about it, it'll come true.
But like, if the Vikings starting job was actually available,
Rogers would have signed there already.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
If it's down to Minnesota, New York or Pittsburgh and
you can start it all three, that's a no brainer
to me. That's the Viking all day, every day. But
I think it says something that he's just sitting out
there waiting and the Vikings are not in any rush
to sign him. But yeah, all the time, people just
wish things to happen because they want more interesting things
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I feel like, here's the thing about This is where
the JJ McCarthy dynamic comes in. And again, if it
is about his health and where he is, then it's
a bigger dilemma. But I don't know why you would
do this to your young quarterback in his psyche to
even be thinking about Aaron Rodgers and playing this game.
That's the portion of it that I don't understand. I mean,
the Colts gave Anthony richards in two years of being
(34:35):
as their guy and it hasn't worked out, and now
they're like, all right, we're gonna bring in competition for you. Obviously,
when they drafted JJ McCarthy, they didn't expect him to
be injured when he got injured, but they had a
backup plan in case he wasn't ready as a rookie.
Now it's your number two and you're still wondering if
he's going to be your quarterback or if he's still
healthy enough. I don't think that's great for JJ McCarthy,
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and I don't think it's great for JJ McCarthy's future.
That's more of the domino that I just don't understand,
because it sure seems like a no brainer that once
Sam Darnold left, it's gonna be JJ McCarthy's job, and
then you would just find some veteran at some point
to be his backup. But apparently it's not as cut
and dry as that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, Kevin O'Connell wants to win. I know him very well,
teammate of mine, competitive guy, super smart guy, and obviously
the season didn't end the way they wanted to last year,
so he wants to double down on that and win.
So I could see the inches in that.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
But you're right.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I mean, fragility is a real thing when it comes
to anybody in this world. And so when you talk
about somebody that's considered one of the best in the
world at what they do in the NFL and a
young guy that hasn't had any real success, you're putting
them at risk for being for losing that confidence really quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer. The last time I
challenged carry On stats, I got schooled and he was right.
Brett far through twenty two interceptions in his lone season
with the Jets and you were there, So that was
enough for me to not challenge it. We are company
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Speaker 1 (36:21):
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Dan Byer. He's the all pro Kerry Rhoads. I had
revision his history with Brett Fahre. We looked through the numbers.
We looked at the latter part of the season. Those
twenty two interceptions, about half of them came in the
final six games. Ow Man, bad memories.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Ye carry road talkways through my body right now?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Dan Oh, what could have been saying goodbye to Fran
McCaffrey done after fifteen years as the Iowa head coach.
He and the school parting ways today. Fran McCaffrey went
out as only Fran McCaffrey could yesterday and their Big
Ten turn in game against Illinois. This is what went
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down on the Big Ten network.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
It's the parents.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
They're nervous for the entire forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Ray White now fifteen points on only.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Six shots, and Brand McCaffrey just got teed up. Frank
can't get another one. I mean, this game is still
very much a reach.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Just waits, don't have to said the Magic Wars, but
it looks like Fran wants.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
To have some more here. Oh yes, he has just
been at such a mistake. The second technical has been
assessed to Fran McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
And he's just been ejected from this ballgame.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh there. It is ending his fifteen years as the
Iowa Hawkeyes head coach. And I had heard that it
probably wasn't going to be a sixteenth season. It wasn't
a great year for Iowa. That did beat Ohio State
in the first round of the Big Ten Tournament to
extend their season by a day. But this is this
seems a little tough for Iowa Sam. I think he
kind of expected it, but it's never easy to see
(37:57):
a longtime head coach move along in Iowa City. Yeah,
I personally, I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
I can't buy into this theory that he wanted to
be ejected for his final game in Iowa. I just
think that's a bad look. I mean, if anything, you know,
maybe I'm taking a naive angle on this, but wouldn't
you want to try to coach your team to a
win and then maybe try to It's almost impossible to
win the Big Ten tournament when you're the fifteen seed,
but getting your getting ejected for your final game as coach,
(38:26):
to me, it just seems like you can't be with
your guys to hug them when they come off the court.
To me, I just I don't. I don't think he
wanted that, and I just it's too bad it ended
that way.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Go ahead, Dan, I don't think he meant to get
the first technical. Sure, and then when he did, it's
just like, all right, let's do this because it wasn't.
We've seen Fran stare down an official. Oh yeah, literally
stand in his face and just stare at him. We've
seen him go out officials. This is not anything new
(38:55):
with Freend McCaffrey, but he knows the magic words. Robbi Hubble,
Robbie Humble even said it himself that yeah, look out,
you can't get the second And as soon as Humble
said that, there it went. He leaves top a little bit, Yes,
but he didn't. He didn't rant and rave he just
said the magic words. And that's why I'm thinking he
didn't sit in pregame being like I'm gonna get ejected.
(39:16):
It was a nine point game in the second half
when he ended up getting tossed. It's the point of
he was so mad and I think everything was adding
up that when he got the first he's just like,
let's just get the second and go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I think it, and he did a battle. Obviously, words
get exchanged and the bloods get the blood gets pumping,
and we know how that feels and what that looks
like and what it correlates to. We just saw that.
I mean, it is a really good way to go out.
I can't our terms, right, I cannot lie. And also
what I would think with this is he knew this
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was his last year as well. Team wasn't going to win.
I know. I I say, get your money's worth, and
I think he did that so exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, and honestly, like there's a point I understand, like
we're Sam's coming. I don't think that Franz said when
I if I don't return next year, I'm going to
make sure I get checked in my last game. I
just think he got the technical because he wanted, and
it just is like, all right, I'm gonna keep going.
I'm just I'm not gonna stop because this is how
I feel. Can't stop till you get enough. Be sure
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
We're not gonna play coy like Duke's going to over
this weekend over Cooper flag status. It's not gonna happen.
We're gonna give it to you straight. Because it's a Friday,
Carrie Rhoads, it's a Friday here on Covino and Rich.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Yes, good to be with you always. You know, we
you have our own spot in our own time. We
do it, do this a lot, but always fun to
step in somebody else's space in their domain and have
a little fun as well.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Iowa Sam is here already dropping some Bill Belichick on it.
Today's Friday, Ben and our stable Bo Bence in in
for Danny g Today is our executive producer. It's happening
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Speaker 2 (01:00):
I am thrown off because on Sundays, you sit in
the opposite opposite. So I looked up and I was like,
what is different about this picture?
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Why different? Today?
Speaker 4 (01:11):
Have seen the movie Twins? Yes, that's us, that is it.
We're just yeah, we're playing here, Danny.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
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I've never seen the movie Twins. It's Arnold Schwarzenegger and
(01:42):
Danny DeVito, but I would also know the premise that
one guy is the big, tall, masculine one and then
the other one is the small, tiny, but they're twins,
so there's this dynamic that one is just extremely better
than the other. And listen, I get it, I get it,
but I just didn't think we had to go to
the Twins level.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
No, listen, what you're saying. It's correct on the premise
if you're on the peripheral looking. But Danny Debido was
demacho one and the tough one in that film, and
Arnold Swarzenegga was you know, he was a little bewildered
and out of his elements. So we take that as
a confidence. Okay, maybe I'll watch it this watch it. Yeah,
it's a classic.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I'm definitely gonna skip college basketball to watch Twins. Oh no,
you're not thirty five years definitely going to happen. Carrie
and I are going to be with you for the
next two hours as we are in for the vacation
in Cavino and Rich and Spot and Danny g but
we got the whole crew with us. By the way,
are you ready, because in eighty minutes or so, you
(02:40):
are going to go head to head with Iowa Sam
Moncei and I are going to host a brand new game.
It's going to be called Initial Dissent.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
As long as it's not anything IOWA related. I'm good.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
Forty minutes that comes up in forty can't wait. That's
forty minutes from now where we talk about the dismissal
of Fran McCaffrey as the head basketball coach at IOWA,
which happened earlier today. What a way to go out.
That's in forty minutes right now, we talk about the
news that is just breaking within the last hour that
the NFL Network is reporting the Cincinnati Bengals have made
(03:21):
significant progress on new deals for not only t Higgins,
who has that franchise tag, but also Jamar Chase. So
the Cincinnati Bengals could be bringing back not one but
the top two favorite targets for one Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Yeah, they're doubling down on offense, winning games and winning
super Bowls. And that's just I mean, as obviously it
looks good. It's going to help help their quarterback Joe
Burrows to continue to play at the level he's playing
that but that we saw that last year scored a
ton of points. We're in a lot of games and
could have won a lot of those games, and obviously
the season could have looked differently. But defensively they struggle.
(04:01):
But the one person that didn't struggle was Trey Hendrickson.
And if they're really close to deals for their big
time receivers, it's gonna be a lot of money. So
that means there's not gonna be enough money to go
around for Trey. So looks like Trey is gonna be
heading out, and I mean they're gonna try to win games,
but it's going a.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Lot of points. And he has requested a trade. He's
gonna be in the final year of his deal and
has wanted out of Cincinnati. And this also on the
heels of the Max Crosby deal in the Miles Garrett contract. Yes,
and Trey Hendrickson, I think he's making sixteen eighteen million
dollars for twenty twenty five and you're seeing other edge
rushers get thirty five million dollars. I don't think he's
(04:41):
gonna get Miles Garrett money at forty million dollars or
not think so either, But I think that Trey Hendrickson
should be asking for that. He lived the NFL in
sacks this past year, like there's there's value to it.
It is the decision of the Cincinnati Bengals and carry
if I'm sensing correctly, And I don't want to put
words in your mouth, so I'll let you say it. Yeah,
(05:01):
are you? Are you in the sense that the Bengals
are now just extremely top heavy because of where they
are on offense, and that isn't sustainable if you want
to win a Super Bowl is the Is that the
sense that I'm getting from you.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Yeah, that's that's exactly what I'm saying. I mean, obviously, yes,
it's gonna sell tickets and Burrows and those guys, Burroughs
and Chase Higgins and you know, and and Chase, I mean, Chase,
thank you. They're gonna put up numbers. And they've they've
done that since they've been in the league, right, And
we've seen what that looks like. But we've also seen
when Cincinnati had a defense that was you know, I
(05:37):
think they were top ten that year or they're around
that like ten fifteen range where they can actually get
stops and get the ball back to their guys. They
made it to the Super Bowl, right, And so that's
the formula for them. They have to get to a
point where they're competing on that side of the ball,
because last year they couldn't even compete. And so if
you lose your top game wrecker on defense, that doesn't
bowl well for you.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I agree with what you're saying, and I'm actually on
the same page with you, and I'm not arguing or
I'm not playing Devil's advocate. I'm almost trying to figure
out a way to look at this from just a
different angle. But to your point of what you're saying,
last year was a bad year for lou Ana Rumo's defense,
so much so he's not even around anymore. He's out.
(06:19):
His defensive coordinator Al Golden comes in from Notre Dame
to lead the Bengals defense. There were a lot of
players from that Super Bowl team in Super Bowl fifty
six on the defensive side of the ball that are
no longer in Cincinnati. A big, big you know, a
lot of moves made with players going in and out,
not the same defense at all. To coincide with what
(06:39):
you're saying, I think we saw last year what happens
when you have a top quarterback, top wide receiver and
a top wide receiver duo and no defense. We saw
that on display, And I actually think that last year
was best case scenario for Cincinnati in the fact of
you had Joe Burrow for the entire season. He had
(07:03):
to play at an MVP caliber where we were considering,
all right, they're nine and eight, they're not even gonna
make the playoffs, but is he really the MVP. Everything
had to go right. Jamar Chase had to be what
he is the top wide receiver in the National Football League.
T Higgins has dealt with injuries time and again throughout
the last couple of years. That kind of happened in
(07:24):
twenty twenty four as well. But the point being is,
I think everything went right for the Bengals offensively, and
it was how bad they were on defense that they
maxed out at nine and eight. So to your point,
I'm wondering if nine and eight is your only max out,
if you decide to operate your franchise this way and
with the amount of dollars that you were assigning to
(07:45):
those three players, I don't know how you feel a
respectable defense.
Speaker 4 (07:49):
Yeah, that's the problem, right, And I think that's why
if you look at just roster organization and roster building
and teams that have long time success, they're able to,
you know, sometimes make tough decisions, which is maybe we
can't we can't pay two top receivers to stay here,
(08:10):
and that's part of the process, right. We can bring
in another guy that may be just a step down
from from you know, you know, from their second guy
and T Higgins and bring in guy to guys that
can be one guy that can be an outside guy,
guy that can be a slot guy that can be
really good for you and still hold that production and
also bring back your top defensive guys. So it's just
(08:32):
there's creative ways to do this and creative ways to
build and keep an organization in the place they need
to be. And I just don't think Cincinnati's brain trust
is having enough were athal when it comes to we
just can't keep everybody happy sometimes, and that's part of
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
It's easy to give Joe Burrow what he wants or
what chamar Chase. It's easy to do the easy thing right,
doesn't mean it's always best for you. A lot of
times what's best for you isn't the easy thing right.
And I think that's what we're saying. I looked at
the NFL and looked at the wide receiver salary position.
There's one team in the National Football League that has
(09:09):
actually two teams. Two teams have two receivers on their
own team paid in the top ten. One is the
Philadelphia Eagles, AJ Brown and Devonte Smith. When it comes
to average annual salary, AJ Brown's average annual salary is
thirty two million dollars a year. Devonte Smith's is twenty
five million dollars a year, so they're both in the
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top ten. But I don't think that we thought that
the Eagles won the Super Bowl because of their two
star wide receivers. No, the other team, the Miami Dolphins,
Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. Wow. And I know I'm
not comparing two of Joe Burrow. Jie Burrow is a
better quarterback, and I think that Chase and T Higgins
are better wide receivers than that duo that they have
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in Miami. But you can't take away what Tyreek Hill
has meant for the Dolphins over the last couple of years.
Even ify T twenty four was a bit of a letdown.
Tyreek Hill at one point probably was the best wide
receiver in the NFL. And why did it get the
Miami Dolphins. And I think that's what you're saying this
is the Dolphins even have tried this and it hasn't
necessarily worked, and they've tried to do other deals. They
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brought in Bradley Chubb from you know, in a trade
with Denver. They had a lot of assets at one point.
Then they lost some of their assets, whether doing deals
or NFL even penalized them for the tampering of Tom Brady.
There's there was a lot there for Miami, but in
the end, they're like, we're gonna put our eggs in
this basket. We're going to bring in Tyreek Hill, We've
got Jaalen Wahall, and we got to a tongue baaloa.
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And what do they have to show for it? A
first round wildcard exit in a road game against the
Kansas City Chiefs and the Bengals have already been to
a super Bowl. So you're looking at it and saying, great,
all right, Cincinnati, let's run it back again. I just
don't think it's sustainable. And I don't think that everything
can go right for Cincinnati like it did in twenty
twenty four when they didn't even make the playoffs. Like,
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at some point you got to address your offensive line
as well, So you got to protect Joe Burrow, who
has I don't want to say been injury prone, but
it has been hurt throughout at times in his career. Right,
and now you've got that. I just wonder as well.
I just think they're kind of taking the easy way
out on this.
Speaker 4 (11:10):
And that, and what that does for a team. Right,
think about how good Joe Burrows was last year and
the numbers were remarkable and the stats and you know,
obviously one of the most explosive teams in the league.
But what that does for you is that puts constant
pressure on you to go out and do that thing,
to go out and do that, to score, to put
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up big points and outscore teams. And so that what
happens in those situation is you play a good team.
When you're right there neck and neck, obviously the other
team's going to continue to score because your defense can't
stop anybody. So it puts pressure on those offensive guys
to almost overachieve every game because there's a level that
I think great players can play at play at consistently,
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and that's it's only two people on that team on Cincinnati,
even on the offense side of the ball that it's great. See,
Higgins is a really really, really good receip so if
he has any drop off and the Lion can't protect,
you're forcing two guys to go out and be superhuman
every game and you just can't do that. And so
that's what happened last year in the moments that really count,
with him. How many cutch turnover was that Joe Burrows
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have in those situations because he's trying to force the
ball in because he's he's not going to get the
ball back if they don't get this touch down with
four minutes left in the game.
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What if this is a Dallas Maverick situation? Oh, here
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we go.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
Sorry, I can't believe it, Bo, What are you laughing at?
Speaker 1 (12:51):
So? Actually, I actually tried this out on Bowl in
our in our conversations pre show, and he did not
laugh in my face, so I did. So I think
Bo knows what's coming here. What about if it's more
important to Cincinnati to keep this trio than win a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
And the fact of what keeping people in the seats
is what you're saying.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yeah, like I felt when the Mavericks traded Luca It
was so devastating that even winning a championship for Dallas
wouldn't make up for the fact that those Maverick fans
don't have Luca to cheer for anymore, because I felt
like he was so a part of that team and
then a part of that city that it winning a
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championship without Luca wasn't going to be the same of
not only of them winning one with Luca, but of
just having Luca on that team. What about if Cincinnati
is saying it's not that they're not going to compete
with Super Bowls, because when you have Joe Burrow, you
have a shot. You have a shot better than most
teams in the league because of where who your quarterback is.
That is undeniable. But the fact of them saying, we
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could make all these moves, we could make these difficult decisions.
We could let t Higgins go, we could try to
go cheap, we could try to make trades, we could
invest the money somewhere else. Maybe they bring Trey Hendrickson back,
Maybe they don't. What the point is is they want
to keep this trio together because of what it means
to Cincinnati. Would that make any sense to you? I'm
calling it the the Luka doncic Nico Harrison rule.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
It makes absolutely zero sense. Okay, all right, yeah, those
guys Joe Burrows. Obviously you can't lose a guy like that.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
T Higgins.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I'm sorry. I know we want to pay him. I
know he's a really good receiver. He can go kick
rocks and we can bring in a couple of guys
that can feel that role. I'm just telling it's this,
And even for the protection of Joe Burrow going out
and trying to screw all these points, you're putting him
in a position to get hurt as well because they're
not sound. You got to be sound in the NFL
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to win.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
All right, Okay. Another layer to this, Adam Schefter reporting
that Jamar Chase wants more more than forty million dollars
a year. He wants, whether it be forty point one
or forty one million dollars, he wants to be the
highest paid non quarterback per average annual salary in the
National Football League. That hits your ear? Are you fine
(15:17):
with Jamar Chase being the highest paid non quarterback in
the National Football League? He'll be making if he got
forty one million dollars a year. That's six million dollars
more than the highest paid wide receiver right now in
the game annually, and that's Justin Jefferson at thirty five million. No,
you're not good with that. No, so thirty eight is
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what you think?
Speaker 4 (15:38):
Yeah, what you just said. Six If he made one
dollar more than Justin Jefferson in theory, he should be happy.
And if he's really committed to winning, and what we're
talking about right now the conversation is winning super Bowls.
We know they can win games if they want to
do that sacrifice a little bit. And I know they're young,
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and I know they're this is this would be his
first you know, I guess extended big contract. He was
the first round, top guy, so he's gotten paid, but
this will be the big one. So I understand it.
But there are dollars and there are ways to construct
this thing, and he can be he can be re
upped in the next offseason where I mean he may
thirty six point one. They can move things around to
where the annual salary goes up the dollar amount with
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guaranteed in the next next season.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
There's ways to do it. The tricky part about it,
and I think that's a really good point. You're not
just trying to top Justin Jefferson, you're trying to top
Miles Garrett. But by blowing past Justin Jefferson, the next
wide receiver that's up for the contract is not going
to reach forty one million dollars. They're going to be
very few. So Jamar Chase is going to be the
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highest paid wide receiver if he gets set forty one
million dollars for a while in the National Football League.
So that isn't a team thing. That's not the Heatles
kind of taking different contracts in Miami to fit Lebron, Wade,
and Bosh. Not that they took extreme discounts, but everybody
wasn't maxed out. Some people took a little bit less year.
That's not what you're getting in Cincinnati. So maybe another
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reason why it's not gonna work.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Would you guys feel differently about all of this if
it was a team other than the Bengals about to
allocate all these resources.
Speaker 1 (17:13):
That's I will say this. I know you're not getting
at this, but I've thought about this. I think them
going to the Super Bowl already allows them to do this,
Like it's like a hey, we made it to a
super Bowl already, when it's a weird way of thinking.
Usually you're putting all of your eggs in the basket
to get to that Super Bowl. Or for that point,
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I'm almost thinking that they're saying, yeah, our kind of
work is done. Not looking them at the Bengals as
the woe mee Bengals, the down trodden, the cheap Bengals.
I don't look at it like that. I look at
it just from a different angle of I think them
going to the super Bowl like they did three years
ago is enough for them to be like, all right,
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we did our stuff. Pay us down. If it doesn't
work out, it doesn't matter because they've already got that
in their back pocket.
Speaker 3 (18:05):
I just feel like, when you're that team allocating all
those resources to really those three guys, you have to
be able to find good young defensive talent for cheap
in the draft, right. And the Bengals have six scouts
total in their organization, right, A team like the Rams,
who they play in the Super Bowl have twenty five,
And like, if you're the Bengals, how are you gonna
find that cheap talent?
Speaker 4 (18:26):
Well, we gotta talk about think about it. We're talking
about the Bengals right under Marvin Lewis. They were very
content with him for a long long time of just
being competitive, a team that could, you know, make the
playoffs here and there and never won a playoff game.
Like it's crazy. He was there for how long, I know,
ten plus years and they never won a playoff game.
(18:47):
They made it a couple of times. So to your point,
being content with we already got our super Bowl could
be a thing, but I just it just it irks me.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
They may and they were a penalty of fifteen yard
late hit out of bounds penalty from taking the Chiefs
into overtime and possibly beating them again. Oh yeah, yeah
for sure. Yeah. So it's it's so like all of
that is is gravy to Bo's point of only having
six scouts, they need to hire me, then well, I mean,
well I guess they don't have any money, so probably
(19:17):
I was gonna say that was just like like to
his point, it's like that you better have better scouts
so you can find those diamonds in the rough. And
I think they're thinking, well, who cares who we get
because we can only pay him X amount anyway, and
if they're any good, we're probably not gonna be able
to keep them long term.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Dan and I can scout from home. I can do
I can do a home job. It can be really cool.
I can just look online and see, you know, look
at look at guys forty times and look how many
times they bench.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Press and probably be a better upgrade. Right, there's a
there's a theme. I think you could. I think you'd
have to fit it in during your studio time on scouting.
There is the conversation that we've had over the last
fifteen years, I would say in the NFL, and what
star receiver has really led you to a Super Bowl? Now?
Cooper Cup I think obviously was where is Yes, oddly
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enough against Cincinnati and Super Bowl fifty six that ended
up happening if the Bengals hold on, so they're twenty
eight to three. Julio Jones, I think is a part
of that conversation. But really there there hadn't been. And
I think that the bigger question than was what duo
of wide receivers you had greatest show on turf with
the Rams and Torry Holt and Isaac Bruce when their
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Super Bowl like they did in Super Bowl thirty four.
You had Reggie Wayne Marvin Harrison with the Colts in
Super Bowl forty one, but again in that game, outside
of a busted coverage from Reggie Wayne, it wasn't a
great offensive game for the Colts. It's also just the
point of, yeah, do you need great wide receivers to
win a Super Bowl? And yeah?
Speaker 4 (20:44):
And to your point that ram one. I mean, obviously
Holt and Bruce were great, but the person on that
team that won them that Super Bowl, that made things
so much easier for those guys wasn't either one of them.
It was Marshall falk Oh. Yeah, he comes to the
game and that's the number one guy you gain planned for. Like,
those guys were great, and I'm not taking anything away
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from them. Their Hall of Fame as we know that,
but Marshall Faulk was the main, the main sticking point there.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
That's a good point. He's carry Rhodes, He's an All
Pro for a reason. Final to make Carrie twenty five roads.
You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox. Are
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Speaker 3 (21:20):
You're off? At Bono Jackson?
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Speaker 1 (22:10):
It's Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's
Carrie Rhodes, I'm Dan Byer, Monsey Milanial. So give us
an update and just a minute here or show of
what's going on on this Friday. A lot of college hoops.
I've also got my eye on some golf ax Shay
Batiya Minwou Lee leading the Players Championship, Rory McCloy, Kala Morikawa,
There's two shots back. Should be a great weekend. I
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Speaker 4 (22:50):
About to ask me if I didn't know anything that
was going on about that golf you were talking about.
I have no idea, So I was gonna be like, you.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Know about the Island Green at seven? Have you heard
about the Island Green at TPC Sawgrass? Okay, I know
I'm a golf fan, but I just I felt like
I asked the crew last night and I got four
blank looks at me. I thought it was much more
known in the world of sports of people who aren't
golf fans. But see they're at the seventeenth right now,
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and he's going to be hitting to an island green
that is one hundred and forty seven yards away, surrounded
ninety nine percent of it by water. It's gonna hold on.
It's gonna hold on, and it's gonna be a long
putt and hold on, hold on. That's what I tell
my golf ball. Yeah, hold on.
Speaker 4 (23:36):
That's what I noticed. I was like, a hold on,
it's pretty water. I was like, there's a lot of
water around it. That's what I noticed.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
I had the good fortune of playing TPC Sawgrass. It's
been a while, about fifteen years ago. I was the
first one out on a Monday, second one out. I
passed the group ahead of me on the fourth hole,
so I basically had the course to myself. And I
saw an alligator in the pond between sixteen and seventeen. Yep,
this is he thinking its head out.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Did you aim for it with the ball? No? What
were you thinking?
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, I'll tell you. When I hit the shot on seventeen,
I did land it on the green, but it rolled
back and was on the fringe and almost rolled into
the water. That's about where the pin was, to be honest,
where it is today, just like that ball, and my
ball stopped there, and then I blew the putt ten
feet past because I'm like, it's a birdie putt. I
ended up three putting for a bogie. But I thought
the Island Green was much more popular in the entire
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sports world than it is.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Eitherwise, you misjudged that one, just like Trey Henderson's market.
So I think, uh, yeah, that's all right.
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All right, Manzie, let's give Carrie Rhodes is Duke Cooper
flag update because he's going to be rushing out of
here for the ACC semifinals. What is going on today,
MONTI in the world of sports.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, this just came out, but it should not be
a surprise that Cooper Flag is out for tonight's ACC
semi final game against North Carolina because of that ankle injury. Again,
not a surprise. The coach Hats said it was a
very long shot that he was going to be able
to play, and so he is officially out right now.
In the SEC quarter final, you know, the Texas Longhorns
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were given the Texas the Tennessee volunteers or run for
their money. But right now, a ranked Tennessee is up
sixty seven to fifty six with about seven minutes to
go in the game. Earlier in the SEC, Jeni Broom
had twenty three points and fifteen rebounds for third ranked Auburn.
They defeated Ole Miss sixty two to fifty seven. At
the Big Ten quarterfinals, Number eighteen Wisconsin topped UCLA eighty
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six to seventy. Well Number seven Michigan State outscored Number
twenty three Oregon seventy four to sixty four, and at
the AAC quarterfinals, Number sixteen has survived eighty three to
eighty against Wichita State. Iowa has parted ways with coach
Friend McCaffrey after fifteen seasons. He reached the he reached
seven NCAA tournaments and his fifteen years and is the
school's all time leader and wins with two undred and
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ninety seven. But Iowa finished seventeen and sixteen this year.
And the NBA Lakers are going to have nobody tonight,
No Lebron James, no Luca doncz no, no jackson' hayes,
Dorian Finney, Smith and Gave Vincent are doubtful for tonight's
game in Denver.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
What about Michael Jones.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
I got to stretch it out there. I may not
make the Duke game now.
Speaker 3 (26:37):
Name there? What I didn't hear Brownie's name there?
Speaker 2 (26:40):
Ronnie's name is not in there, so he might. He
might be a starting that is for sure. And in
the NFL, you guys started the show that yes, reports
are that the Bengals have made significant progress on contract
extensions which mark Chase anti Higgins. Both deals could be
finalized in the coming days. NFL Network first with the story.
Then ESPN reported that the league expectation is that Jamar
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Chase is going to get somewhere around forty point one
million to forty one million, topping Miles Garrett, made him
the highest payton on a quarterback in the NFL by
to you.
Speaker 1 (27:09):
We don't have any news on Aaron Rodgers on except
Diana Rossini saying that the Vikings are still wondering what
they should do. They've only had You've only had and
it's not even a month carry It's more than that.
You likely knew Sam Donald wasn't going to be back.
It was more of a question when he was playing
at that MVP level, But once they got ousted from
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the wild card round, they're sure didn't seem to be
a sentiment that he would return, considering how he played
in this final couple of games of the season. But
if you weren't sold on JJ McCarthy or you weren't
ready for him to be it, didn't think that he
was going to be healthy enough. Isn't this decision more
in the forefront of your mind than sitting right now?
And it's just it seems to be a mess when
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it comes with Aaron Rodgers, because I'm not sure Vikings
fans even want Aaron Rodgers in Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, I mean, could be true. I don't know. I
do know that you're right though, they should have had
a contingency plan and it seems like even during the season,
they were already having a contingency plan, right They brought
in Daniel Jones late late in the season, and obviously
I never thought he was the guy. But you're bringing
in these guys to see what they can do and
see if you can you know, Kevin O'Connell's great at
(28:22):
being a quarterback quote unquote. You guys can't see this.
I'm doing their quotes a quarterback whisperer, right, And so
if you get guys in that have had a little
success and you could actually bring them in close to
your facility, your program, see what they're about. Obviously, Daniel
Jones wasn't that guy, but they should have been thinking
about this, and especially with the strets that you know
Dnald had down, you know, closing out the season this year,
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they should have had a plan in place. And Aaron
Rodgers right now, even if JJ McCarthy is going to
be the guy, you want him to have some type
of guy, a veteran guy in there who could potentially
be the guy that can play and if he needs
time even during the season, why not bring in Airon Rodgers.
That doesn't really make any sense.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I'll say I'll say this, I don't think you bring
in Aaron Rodgers for him to back up JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
Oh no, no, not the backup. I'm saying, yeah, if
Jaj isn't ready, yeah, I mean he added a catastophic injury.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Gout, so then yeah, to that point, then what are
you saying about JJ McCarthy. Are you long playing this?
Are you already selling your stock on this? Because Aaron
Rodgers is coming off of that thirty eight one hundred
yard season that carry loves to talk about.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
It's correct and the.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
Numbers are there. I thought he would retire. Sure doesn't
seem like he's going to. But you're also leaving the
Pittsburgh Steelers sitting there hanging because that's the decision. And
I get what you're saying about being that mentor to
JJ McCarthy, but doing so as the starter with McCarthy
the backup, you have the starting job in Pittsburgh if
you want it. And Minnesota apparently one free agency which
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I don't know is they've give awards for that, but
I've been seeing a plus for Minnesota and all the
signings they've done and what they've done for their offensive line.
But a lot of times free agency doesn't win you
Super Bowls, And I'm just saying, is Minnesota in a
way felt. I don't want to say lightning in a
bottle because a lot of the pieces are there, but
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Sam Darnold for those fifteen weeks was lightning in a bottle.
And I'm sure they're thinking, well, if we can get
that from a consistent quarterback that's not gonna maybe fold
in Week eighteen or or be under pressure and make
the decisions he made in a wild card game, then
we should be fine. But almost like the Bengals, like,
you're not gonna run it back exactly how it is.
They're fortunate that Brian Flores is back. You didn't get
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an EDG coaching job, so he returns next season. So
I get while there's optimism there, Aaron Jones comes back,
you have top wide receivers, but man too, I just
Vikings fans don't want Aaron Rodgers. I would say, if
you had to ask them if they want him or not,
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they would say no. And I think it's different from
when Brett Faarr was there, because this was a team
that had just been searching and they would love to
stick it to the Green Bay Packers and Farv was
still playing at a high level at that point, and
then when he went to Minnesota almost takes them to
a super Bowl. But I don't know if I think,
if I'm a Vikings fan, i'd rather just see what
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JJ McCarthy has at this point now. If it is
injury related, right, completely different story. But if it's injury related,
now I'm concerned that JJ McCarthy's just future as a whole.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Well, the crazy part about the Brett Favre element that
you threw in, because obviously this would be the same
route for Aaron Rodgers, right Green Bay Jets to Minnesota,
I'd hit back on you and say, as a teammate
of Brett Farv's, he played okay, he wasn't great, and
there were questions coming off that offseason. He injured his
elbow during his shoulder or his elbow during that last
season with US, and I thought he was going to retire,
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so similar to what you're saying. So I don't know
if Minnesota even thought that he was that good or not,
but I think it's more about sticking it to Green Bay.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
What you said on the ladder, sure that he teamed
up with Brad Childress, and they did make a run
because they you know what I mean, NFC Championship game.
I just think it's a different sort of feel than
just the Vikings dynamic as a team. Back then, I
felt that it fit better than what Rogers is doing.
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It almost feels like now the Vikings as Rogers awaits
for what they're doing, the Vikings are trying to decide
not whether Rogers can play, but whether they want to
enter into everything that comes with Aroon Rodgers. So you know,
to that point, and you're saying that for farv it
was more of a conversation, but it worked out for them.
I also feel that the Vikings at that point where
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they were would have done anything, and I still think
that they feel that way because they haven't been back
to a Super Bowl. Still haven't obviously won a Super Bowl.
You know, the last Super Bowl they were in was,
you know, forty fifty years ago. Who was the coach then,
Dan Minnesota.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
I can't remember right now when they went to the
Super bowls No, No, when Brett came Brad Childers.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Okay, yes, I'm.
Speaker 4 (33:13):
Just trying to correlate the head coaches too, because Kevin
O'Donnell had such a firm grip on that team as well.
The Aaron Rodgers part of it could be, you know,
an issue.
Speaker 1 (33:21):
Yeah, absolutely, and I think that's the that's the drama
with it. Bo Benson is just mad that everybody is
forcing him to Minnesota to complete this era, to complete
this Brett mirror.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
Kurrie and I have kind of talked about this before,
but it does feel like there's some wish casting going
on here too, where it's everybody wants to see Aaron
Rodgers complete the Brett Favre career tour. So it's just like, well,
maybe if we like post enough about it, it'll come true.
But like, if the Vikings starting job was actually available,
Rogers would have signed there already.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Thanks.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
If it's down to Minnesota, New York or Pittsburgh and
you can start it all three, that's a no brainer
to me. That's the Viking all day, every day. But
I think it says something that he's just sitting out
there waiting and the Vikings are not in any rush
to sign him. But yeah, all the time, people just
wish things to happen because they want more interesting things
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
I feel like, here's the thing about This is where
the JJ McCarthy dynamic comes in. And again, if it
is about his health and where he is, then it's
a bigger dilemma. But I don't know why you would
do this to your young quarterback in his psyche to
even be thinking about Aaron Rodgers and playing this game.
That's the portion of it that I don't understand. I mean,
the Colts gave Anthony richards in two years of being
(34:35):
as their guy and it hasn't worked out, and now
they're like, all right, we're gonna bring in competition for you. Obviously,
when they drafted JJ McCarthy, they didn't expect him to
be injured when he got injured, but they had a
backup plan in case he wasn't ready as a rookie.
Now it's your number two and you're still wondering if
he's going to be your quarterback or if he's still
healthy enough. I don't think that's great for JJ McCarthy,
(34:57):
and I don't think it's great for JJ McCarthy's future.
That's more of the domino that I just don't understand,
because it sure seems like a no brainer that once
Sam Darnold left, it's gonna be JJ McCarthy's job, and
then you would just find some veteran at some point
to be his backup. But apparently it's not as cut
and dry as that.
Speaker 4 (35:14):
Yeah, Kevin O'Connell wants to win. I know him very well,
teammate of mine, competitive guy, super smart guy, and obviously
the season didn't end the way they wanted to last year,
so he wants to double down on that and win.
So I could see the inches in that.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
But you're right.
Speaker 4 (35:29):
I mean, fragility is a real thing when it comes
to anybody in this world. And so when you talk
about somebody that's considered one of the best in the
world at what they do in the NFL and a
young guy that hasn't had any real success, you're putting
them at risk for being for losing that confidence really quickly.
Speaker 1 (35:46):
He's Carrier Roads. I'm Dan Byer. The last time I
challenged carry On stats, I got schooled and he was right.
Brett far through twenty two interceptions in his lone season
with the Jets and you were there, So that was
enough for me to not challenge it. We are company
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Speaker 5 (36:10):
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Speaker 1 (36:21):
It's Cavino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
Dan Byer. He's the all pro Kerry Rhoads. I had
revision his history with Brett Fahre. We looked through the numbers.
We looked at the latter part of the season. Those
twenty two interceptions, about half of them came in the
final six games. Ow Man, bad memories.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
Ye carry road talkways through my body right now?
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Dan Oh, what could have been saying goodbye to Fran
McCaffrey done after fifteen years as the Iowa head coach.
He and the school parting ways today. Fran McCaffrey went
out as only Fran McCaffrey could yesterday and their Big
Ten turn in game against Illinois. This is what went
(37:02):
down on the Big Ten network.
Speaker 5 (37:04):
It's the parents.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
They're nervous for the entire forty minutes.
Speaker 5 (37:07):
Ray White now fifteen points on only.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Six shots, and Brand McCaffrey just got teed up. Frank
can't get another one. I mean, this game is still
very much a reach.
Speaker 5 (37:19):
Just waits, don't have to said the Magic Wars, but
it looks like Fran wants.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
To have some more here. Oh yes, he has just
been at such a mistake. The second technical has been
assessed to Fran McCaffrey.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
And he's just been ejected from this ballgame.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Oh there. It is ending his fifteen years as the
Iowa Hawkeyes head coach. And I had heard that it
probably wasn't going to be a sixteenth season. It wasn't
a great year for Iowa. That did beat Ohio State
in the first round of the Big Ten Tournament to
extend their season by a day. But this is this
seems a little tough for Iowa Sam. I think he
kind of expected it, but it's never easy to see
(37:57):
a longtime head coach move along in Iowa City. Yeah,
I personally, I don't.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
I can't buy into this theory that he wanted to
be ejected for his final game in Iowa. I just
think that's a bad look. I mean, if anything, you know,
maybe I'm taking a naive angle on this, but wouldn't
you want to try to coach your team to a
win and then maybe try to It's almost impossible to
win the Big Ten tournament when you're the fifteen seed,
but getting your getting ejected for your final game as coach,
(38:26):
to me, it just seems like you can't be with
your guys to hug them when they come off the court.
To me, I just I don't. I don't think he
wanted that, and I just it's too bad it ended
that way.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
Go ahead, Dan, I don't think he meant to get
the first technical. Sure, and then when he did, it's
just like, all right, let's do this because it wasn't.
We've seen Fran stare down an official. Oh yeah, literally
stand in his face and just stare at him. We've
seen him go out officials. This is not anything new
(38:55):
with Freend McCaffrey, but he knows the magic words. Robbi Hubble,
Robbie Humble even said it himself that yeah, look out,
you can't get the second And as soon as Humble
said that, there it went. He leaves top a little bit, Yes,
but he didn't. He didn't rant and rave he just
said the magic words. And that's why I'm thinking he
didn't sit in pregame being like I'm gonna get ejected.
(39:16):
It was a nine point game in the second half
when he ended up getting tossed. It's the point of
he was so mad and I think everything was adding
up that when he got the first he's just like,
let's just get the second and go. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:28):
I think it, and he did a battle. Obviously, words
get exchanged and the bloods get the blood gets pumping,
and we know how that feels and what that looks
like and what it correlates to. We just saw that.
I mean, it is a really good way to go out.
I can't our terms, right, I cannot lie. And also
what I would think with this is he knew this
(39:48):
was his last year as well. Team wasn't going to win.
I know. I I say, get your money's worth, and
I think he did that so exactly.
Speaker 1 (39:57):
Yeah, and honestly, like there's a point I understand, like
we're Sam's coming. I don't think that Franz said when
I if I don't return next year, I'm going to
make sure I get checked in my last game. I
just think he got the technical because he wanted, and
it just is like, all right, I'm gonna keep going.
I'm just I'm not gonna stop because this is how
I feel. Can't stop till you get enough. Be sure
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