April 15, 2025 • 39 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they discuss the Mavericks and their closed media session Tuesday with Nico Harrison being stubborn in his messaging about trading Luka Doncic. Dan and Monse explain why they had no issue with a male Braves reporter getting the phone number of a female fan.
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
She nailed it, folks, No notes, no notes whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah said it enough, man have said it enough.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We were talking phone numbers on Covino and Rich a
week or two ago. Mancy off the top of her dome,
Welcome in, Monzy. Just you know what Monzy just did.
She did what Nico Harrison would love for her to do.
No notes, no note, no notes whatsoever. For some reason,
the Dallas Mavericks are running their postseason press conferences like
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a TGI Fridays. I'm not writing down your order at all,
and whatever comes out comes out. Whatever you say it is,
whatever you say it is. Manzurella sticks. I love TGI Fridays.
By the way, Please don't go away.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Don't go away. They took one away already near me,
near my parents.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So so sad because the Monzrella sticks were great everything.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I don't care if you don't take my order. Surprise,
who knows? Who knows what's coming? Who knows?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The whiskey glaze which used to be the Jack Daniels,
It's still the same thing.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
When I ate that stuff that was so good.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You can still dip vegetables in it if you wanted,
sure the same no good it was, you just get
deep fried broccoli or something and then dividend. Good to go.
The point being is when you go to a restaurant
and they don't write down your order, you are playing
with fire. You are one hundred percent playing with fire
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because you don't know what they're gonna get right and
what they're gonna get wrong. The Dallas Mavericks are playing
with fire because for some reason, when they call a
postseason press conference, they only pick select members of the
media to show up in front of Nico Harrison and
CEO Rich Waltz. And they also they also say no cameras,
no tape recorders, no recording. What you can write down
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is what you get. And I want to bring in
Isaac Lohenkron because you do have some of the details.
Am I understanding that the message of this the whiskey
glazed chicken breasts, if you will from TGI Fridays is
the defense wins Championship phrase from Nico Harrison.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Absolutely that was repeated multiple times during the course of
whatever this was according to the transcript, and yes, Front
Office Sports had the details of how it all went down,
they said. Initially the team did not want to allow
any audio or video recordings, but after reporters objected, the
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MAVs allowed them to record audio of the meeting, as
long as they didn't publish it. And they also asked
reporters and they only invited fifteen. They also asked them
not to post details about the news conference in real
time on social media.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Go ahead, Manzi, because I want to bring up something
that Isaac said. After you're done, it would have.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Just been easier for you to just put out your
own statement in this.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And not waste everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, absolutely, it seems like absolutely pointless. You invited a
small select few people and then you said you couldn't
use any of the footage, So you might won just
written your own statement out and published it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It would have had the same effect. Nobody wants to
hear you.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I once said that Le'Veon Bell led the NFL in
bad decisions, and I think Nico Harrison is a league leader.
In the NBA. He is the Michael Jordan of bad
decisions of the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA season.
He's the goat. Nico Harrison is the goat of bad
decisions and bad pr They had the one press conference
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where Jason Kidd sat awkwardly next to him. And I'm
not saying that kid is innocent in all of this
because that do think he played a role? Hecket sure
seems like Luca thinks he played a role, considering what
Luca was yelling on the court. But the funny thing
about the point that Isaac made of the fifteen reporters,
if you are included, is that a knock on your
reporting in essence? Like they think that you're going to
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play ball with them, or do you take that as
they feel that I'm a fair and balanced reporter, or
do they look at it like, oh, he's one of us, Yes, exactly,
Like I almost think it would be a badge of
honor to be not included, because guess what I'm doing
the real work. I'm doing the real work of the
people that you betrayed, Niko Harrison. I don't want to
be in your stupid makeshift have fun meeting. I don't
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want to be a part of that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Absolutely, it is calling you soft because if you were selected,
that means they think or they have some sort of
trust in you that you're going to take their side,
that you're going to follow their rules, like you just
said that.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You understand.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, Uc, you know where we're going side. You may
not write something mean about us. You may write something soft,
meaning you're soft. I wonder if anyone turned down the invite.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
No, I didn't know. I did see a few reporters
say I was not invited.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Where does a badge of honor fine?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Which I've done to friend's weddings. It's always such a
trump card when you're in a group of friends and
you're the one or two that didn't go and weren't
invited to the wedding, it is such a well I
wasn't invited to the wedding. It's such a stick of
the knife because the rankings are right there. But in
this case, it's not as much rankings. It's just of
do you play ball or do you not play ball?
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And the funny thing is is they still have a
season going by the way, they still have a playing
game to play, and possibly too if they end up
eating the Kings tomorrow night. But what doesn't change is
this Manzi and I think that Luca got his reception
that he deserved. In going back, and in fact, I
think it's going to be more of the same. Every
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time the Lakers go back to Dallas. May not be
like the first time, but they're going to be loud
cheers for Luca. People are going to be cheering for
Luca because there are Mavericks fans who will never Becks
fans again after this. You still have a season to play,
still have a game to play. The one defense that
I had in that game against the Lakers were the
team that Nico did want on the court involved Kyrie
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Irving and for Luca to Avis' moment, great, but it
wasn't apples to oranges or apples to apples. Whose apples
to oranges because there was no Kyrie Irving. The problem
is now as you move forward, is we don't know
what Kyrie Irving we're going to get coming off of
an ACL injury. He has advanced in his career, so
it's not like a twenty four year old getting it
and maybe coming back even better than ever as maybe
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ACL injuries, as severe as they are, they aren't the
end of a career, the death knell that you would
have in previous years. So I absolved Nico of any
of that, of them losing that game. But the point
of his defense wins championships continues to miss the point
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about the trade and the trade number one, as Dallas
Mavericks jeral manager, you think the goal is to win
a championship. You think that that's what your goal is
as a GM. And I think that there's more responsibility
on the first part of the Dallas Mavericks meaning the
name Dallas, than it is Mavericks. And that's who he abandoned,
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that's who he let down. And yeah, you have this
team and you're trying to win championships, but ultimately you
are a steward of that community, of that fan base,
and if you had any sense whatsoever, you would have
realized what Luca meant to that organization. I know the
trade's over and it's two months old. I still don't
think that the points that we argued two three months
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ago are any different than they are right now. So
him saying defense wins championships, it's not about championships and
it's about Dallas. It's not about the Mavericks. And that's
the point that I think he keeps on missing when
he's talking about this deal.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Here's the thing, Dan, There's nothing he can say to
make anything better. I agree with you, he is missing
the point. But I think like even if he got it,
even if he said that, he can't change people's minds.
Like if he came out and said, man, you guys
are right, I didn't realize the effect this was going
to have on Dallas, it.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Would just cause a second uproar.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There's nothing he can say, nothing he can do, and
it is I'm gonna say unfair, because you're right. The
team that he thought he was gonna have is not
the team he has. And we will never know what
a healthy Cyrie an ad and a healthy Dallas Mavericks
team would have done in this season, because they could
have done well. They absolutely could have done well. But
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what he did two months ago, it's just it. No,
it doesn't matter what comes out of his mouth. There's
nothing he can say to make anyone feel even an
ounce better about this trade.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You don't think that if he came out and said
publicly in speaking and said, listen, I did what I
thought was best for the organization and still believe the
move that I made was for the best interest of
this organization. But I understand your pain in dealing with this,
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and at the time maybe I didn't understand, but I
still feel like, I think there's got to be some
recognition to a fan base who just lost their hero
and their hero is now in a better situation than
he was prior. I mean Nico saying and Isaac, I
want to bring you in because I don't know if
it's internet folly or if it's fake or truth. But
(10:36):
did he say in that meeting that there wasn't a
guarantee if Luca would have signed the Supermax extension.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I remember him saying that. But you know what's really interesting,
if they had allowed that audio to be out, I could.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Just plan for you right now.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yes, yes, I will search you that transcript and get
back to you.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And the reason because I thought I saw it on
social media.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I thought I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, And so that's the point of and everybody says, like, Okay,
come on, it's still like he's fighting this battle against Luca.
You're probably right, there's nothing that he can say. I
think that's that's absolutely it. But it's also of of
when you're I've said this time before, when you're in
a marriage, you learn how to apologize very quickly, and
(11:28):
an apology isn't I'm sorry you felt that way. There's
got to be some responsibility towards it, So for him
to take some responsibility on the hearts that he broke,
I think he's only fair. It may not be the
end all be all, and they're gonna be Mavericks fans
that he lost for life because of it, But my goodness,
just to even take a step towards that way, and
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doing it in a private press conference and not speaking
that way, and not speaking in a way that was public,
and only taking three questions after the trade was done
the first time, it's just an awful way to treat
your fans if you've made that awful move.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Listen. I don't disagree with you that he should say that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I just don't think it does anything if you admit
that you let go of something that was so big
to the Dallas community. If you admit that, then they're
gonna dig their heels even more of how terrible of
a GM he is. You didn't realize that, you did
not know that Luca Doncus loved Dallas the way that
we saw it from the beginning. For the last six
(12:29):
years there's stories about how I read he went to
Dick Sporting Goods, like while he was in Dallas and
did a was there working with like the with uh
Dallas community, like when and did when he went to
Dallas for the back for the first time when the
Lakers played, he went to Dick Sporting Goods and did
a whole thing there for the community. I also read
that some kid in Dallas's dad started to gofund me
(12:50):
to get him money to get the kids sporting supplies
for whatever sport he's in. Luca donated because he was
from Dallas, like he is still so invested in Dallas
till this moment. And so I feel like whatever Nico says,
it does not matter, even though I agree with you.
Even though it doesn't matter, you should still say it.
(13:11):
You should still acknowledge it. You should tell the fans
how you messed up.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Isaac Longcron has got some more information.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, to answer what you said earlier. Dan, more specifically,
veteran NBA reporter Tim McMahon was one of those covering this.
He got one of the precious invitations. So this is
a transcript. According to Tim McMahon. Tim McMahon says to Nico,
Luku was gonna sign this super max? Why didn't you
sign him? And then if you really wanted to trade him?
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And then Nico jumps in, well, there's no guarantee he
would sign a supermax. McMahon responded, he has guaranteed it.
He was bawling on the bench. Nico Harrison responded, Well,
like I said, we can agree to disagree.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
He's he really like, come on, man, come on, this is.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
This is There's no give, there is no there's nothing
towards and it would go a long way. And it's
starting to become the point of I don't know how
he's ever going to survive in that certain role, and
because everybody feels burned by it. But it's almost like
now he's digging in his heels just to be just
to be that guy, and I feel that there is
(14:20):
some healing that can be done. Look for as great
as Luca was that night in Dallas and at times
has been with the Lakers, there's also been some problems
that popped up in Dallas that have popped up in
games against LA and we're gonna see in the playoffs
as well. On the defensive side of things, and how
things play out, and maybe the Lakers will get a
root awakening. We don't know. They got the Timberwolves in
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the first round. Should be a magnificent series with that showdown.
But yeah, just to just to give a little something,
just a little bit, I mean it. It seems like
it's a contentious divorce, like of just all of a sudden,
you were served papers and you've never talked to again.
That's how Nico is handling it. And he's I mean,
(15:04):
he's not even the spoiled one in all of this.
You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
He's digging his heels and I feel like that's the
only option he has. I don't think he made this
decision by himself. I don't think so. I think he's
just the face of it right sure, And unfortunately it
sucks for him that you are being associated as a
person who made this sole decision, and I do think.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Others were involved.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But acknowledgement is what I think you're asking for, and
I agree with you. Yesterday at work, they're not listening.
One of my co workers made a mistake at work
yesterday and it really screwed us over and when I sorry.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
They're not listening. As well, because they're working, not because
they don't want to listen to the show.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, they're working. They are working.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
We have a game today, Like absolutely, I was there
and literally like somebody made a mistake, one person that
really screwed us over. And I went and approached the
person and no acknowledgment. It's like, I don't need an apology,
but don't just brush it aside, like it wasn't a
big deal because you screwed us over and again, I
don't need the apology, but acknowledgement that you messed up
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and that for some reason you just today you had
a brain fart and this is you messed up, but
no acknowledgment about it.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And I was so upset. I was so upset because
literally screwed us.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Over and you should have seen me. Should have seen me, guys,
I had steam coming out of my ears.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You just want a little give back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Because who saw the day I did?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
She's the Luka Dacic love this show. Jason Stewart's our
executive producer.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Oh man, I had something to say, and then I
just heard what Monty said. I think all of us
could relate, all of us listening to working with that
person that just can't be accountable. Yep, a lot of
us work really close to that person.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh boy. But anyways, I think.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I hadn't even thought about, I.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Said Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, go ahead, until I heard you guys summarize this.
This is kind of a new theory of mine. I'm
going to bounce it off, y'all. Now, I don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know me.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I don't get into the weeds of I don't know
Nico Harrison with it. But doesn't it sound like a
man who's been empowered by ownership a little bit? My
theory ownership says we don't want to we don't want
to commit to him for reasons A, B and C. However,
whatever reasons you believe, didn't want to get in shape,
didn't like that, he drinks a lot of beer or whatever,
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And you're going to get rid of him, and you're
going to take all the bullets as part of your compensation.
Now you're going to take all the bullets, all the
bs from everybody. Now he's talking like a guy who's empowered,
who could say whatever he wants and be guarded.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Am I do you?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
What do you think about my read on that? I
think that that's a fair read. The only issue that
I have with the read is the directive. I don't
think from upstairs said get us Anthony Davis. That's the
problem that I have with it is they could say
get rid of Luca. We don't think Luca is our future.
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But in the deal that they.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Did, terrible deal.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's an awful deal.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
How did you not get awesome?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
So there there's the heartbreak of just trading Luca on
the surface, and then it's what you got in return.
And that's where I think the defense wins championships portion
rings so hollow, is because I think it's it's more
about Dallas than it is about defense in that community.
But if you want to go the defensive route, why
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are you giving us an aging superstar with injury problems
and didn't shop him around the league. Sure, there may
have been a rumor here and a rumor there, but
LA wasn't the only team that would have wanted Luka Doncic. Now,
maybe Minnesota was given an offer, maybe Milwaukee was given
an offer. If he was traded to the Bucks. As
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a Bucks fan, I can safely say I don't think
he's signing an extension there. I just don't think that
he is. So it doesn't make sense for the Bucks
to do that. But if the Knicks called, if Boston called,
if the Heat called, if any of those teams, and
you just give him all the first round picks or
whatever player you need, then you did your due diligence
as a GM. So I think that you're right, Jason,
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and that he's almost being the role of Commissioner Goodell
as the voice of thirty two owners across the NFL
that want Roger Goodell to say this. It's just the
problem of the way that he went about it and
how we set this team up, and is so steadfast
in his process without seeing the big picture of it all.
So there's two things at play here, and he's zero
(19:37):
for two with.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
This him saying that towards the end, I think IOWI
said that he plans to be here for the three
years of his contract. I mean, obviously he says that.
I don't know if ownership feels that way, if this
was all built into this whole thing of eventually you're
going to get the buy out and find somewhere else
to go. But like so you're saying he's missed on
(19:58):
He missed on both missed on the basketball decision, and
he has really missed on the messaging, including whoever's decision
it was to do this closed door thing, which is
going to be the topic for the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, and the messaging, I think is an extension of
how you deal with that community and how you treat
Dallas and how the fans have felt because there's been
no there has really been no acknowledgment on what Luca meant.
I said this, I read somebody else saying this on
social media today, so it's not an original thought. It
was my original thought. But we have the same thoughts
(20:33):
in Monte think we've even had this discussion as well.
I think Mavericks fans would rather have Luca than win
an NBA championship without him, And so that's the point
of having Luca on your side and being your your
player is more important than winning a trophy, even if
they would win it this year, I think they would
rather trade that trophy for.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
A lifetime of Luca.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yes, exactly, having him be your guy is something spell
and maybe having an opportunity year in and year out
to do it. Moving him robbed fans of that opportunity
that no championship can fill and two three months later,
whatever it's been because I forget what April fifteenth, that's right,
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for as long as it's been, that still has not
been filled. And that's been the problem with the deal
the whole time.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Absolutely. And here's the thing, It's like this. This isn't
with every player.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
This is an isolated situation because it's Luka Doncic and
the Maybe a Nicola Jokic would have a similar effect
of Steph Curry, right, maybe, but it's just it's only
few players that we would be feeling like this about.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And that's what it is. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think if you would have asked the Dallas Mavericks fans, hey,
you want to have Luca for the next ten twelve
years and maybe never maybe never win a championship, or
trade him and.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Maybe win a championship.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Listen, there comes a time. Damian Lillard in Portland is
the best example. He probably he stayed as long as.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
He possibly can he possibly could, and.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Then a deal finally had to be made and look
at hasn't worked out. On the other side, the Mavericks
decided to not.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Exhaust that option exactly, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
That's an issue.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If we would have been talking about this yes in
year ten eleven, maybe we're feeling different.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But obviously this.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Was so hush hush because he knew this is this
is not gonna fly with a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
It's not gonna fly with a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Still can't get it right in Dallas, can't.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Get it right and with this meaning pathetic again, just
release your own statement.
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Lucky you guys.
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Speaker 2 (23:06):
Then a little bit I wasn't invited, which is no,
it's fine, it's fine, No, we're good.
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I don't want to go anyway.
Speaker 4 (23:12):
Someone only has two tickets yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:14):
Oh you think I needed to get oh no, to
go to my place of work. You think I just
call to my place of work.
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(23:40):
in Major League Baseball last night, and it had nothing
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latest of what's happening on this magical Tuesday. Hello Isaac, Hello, All.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
About the general manager starting in the NFL, Miami Dolphins
GM Chris Greer, saying today he is seeking to trade
star cornerback Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Jalen did not ask for a trade, so we went
through the process and just felt that after numerous conversations
and then talking last week with Jalen and his agent.
It was best to move forward and it was best
interest of the Miami Dolphins and for Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
As far as Tyreek Hill is concerned.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
That is not anything that we're pursuing. You know, like
I said, who know, if someone wants to come and
give me two first round picks, then we consider it.
But as of right now, that's not anything we're pursuing.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And in the NBA, we will start with multiple outlets
supporting Milwaukee starred Damian Lillard's blood clot in his right
calf going to cause him to miss the start of
the playoffs. Milwaukee hosts Indiana starting on Saturday, but also today.
Dallas Mavericks general manager at Nico Harrison said he has
no regrets about trading Luka Doncic to the Lakers in February.
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He said, quote, we wanted a two way player to
lead our team, and that was Anthony Davis. We got
what we wanted dot dot dot. Eventually, I'll earn the
trust of this community back on quote now. Front Office
Sports reported the news conference was invite only. Team initially
didn't want to allow any audio or video recordings, but
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after reporters objected. The MAVs allowed the reporters to record
audio of the meeting as long as they didn't publish it.
And you know this news conference, in this whole Dallas
media strategy has scored big with fans on social media
at all underscore things, underscore MAVs posting stuff. Couldn't even
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get twenty four hours of just enjoying page Becker's in
Dallas before Nico Harrison did something stupid and finally at
Jazz six two six underscore commenting quote I hate Nico Harrison.
My children will hate him. Geez, my grandchildren will hate him,
My great grandchildren will hate him. My entire bloodline will
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hate him. Unquote Dan and Monci, I think.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Paige Becker's first request should be that team should move
to Buffalo. Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yes? Great much? Did you get it and you didn't?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That's good? That was good.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Boom roasted.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
There it is, hey go boom roasted.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thank you very much. Isaac loh and kron hit him
up at Isaac Lohan Krohn speaking, did he say newlyweds?
Did you mention newlyweds at any point? Or did you
say I thought there was there was something of of
of maybe Bliss I thought there was some tie into
of a relationship or whatnot. Because it transitions to our
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next door, it does, it does where Last night the
Braves are taking on the Blue Jays in a rematch
of the nineteen ninety two World Series, which I know
so many of us of my generation will remember. You
believe that the Toronto Blue Jays were in World Series,
Manzi and they actually went the back to back World Series. Yeah,
and one of them both. That's that's the crazy part.
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Last night, a rematch of the ninety two World Series,
had nothing to do again with anything that happened on
the field. It was all about what happened during the
Braves regional broadcast on FanDuel Sports Network and Sideline. Reporter
Wiley Ballard was up in a specific area of what
was formerly known as SkyDome and was chatting it up
(27:16):
with fans and play by play announcer Brandon Gordon. This
is how it all went down.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
We having a lot of fun up here. Off the
coroner rooftop. Who do we got you?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
What's your name?
Speaker 9 (27:24):
My name is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Kayla, Kayla,
and you guys hanging out the rooftop lounge.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Often once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Okay, well, we timed it pretty well.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
All right.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
How are you guys feeling my root for the Braves today?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I'm hoping for the bus. What about you? Are you
Braves fan?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Now?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Not?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Quiet?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Quiet?
Speaker 9 (27:45):
All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys,
come luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Come on it, come on, get us.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Some more Bras fans.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
All right, So they want me to get your number,
they want you to get.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
I'm dead serious, they're saying to my right, and I
shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are are
not making this up. Even if you guys weren't, I
might use that in the future. That's actually pretty good move.
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So the best part of this right now is that
while they could totally be faking, and this might be
the new move, you just walk around with a fan
duel microphone and an earpieceing and convinced fans that they're
actually on TV.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.
I got the number. We're good.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I thought it was amazing. I thought it was hilarious.
Other people have had different a difference of opinions. MANSI yeah, unprofessional,
that's what I've heard. Yeah, imagine the genders being reversed. Yeah,
extremely unprofessional. This is not acceptable. Those just a few
(28:59):
of the phrases used to talk about Wiley Ballard's asking
a woman her phone number while doing a report on
the Braves Regional Network. I am just not ready to
take it that seriously. I thought it was fun. There
may be a double standard. I just did not think
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that what that was was this egregious sort of moment
in sports broadcasting that we will remember forever. Maybe it
was a little out of touch, if somebody wants to
say that, But I thought it was fun. I thought
it was in jest. I don't think that was the
main point of the whole bit. I think it turned
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into that everybody was laughing. I thought the woman in
the piece played her part well in saying like, oh,
they're saying it.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I was not offended by this whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I was not bothered or offended. But yes, it is
a double standard, that's true. If a woman did that,
she would be crucified. She would absolutely be dragged through
the mud.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I believe all of that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
She may have been fired on the spot. Honestly, I
believe that there is a mega double standard.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
But I was not bothered by it. I did not
think it was vile.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I did not think it was nasty or creepy like
other words I read. I had to see the video
because I was seeing these words as well, but I
saw nasty, creepy, vile. And then I looked at the
video and I was like, Okay, is it inappropriate?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I guess you can say that you're working.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Maybe you should have stepped aside, taking your little ear
piece out, not had the cameras rolling, then come back
and been like Lauren, Sorry, I said Laurens the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I just got some hurt. But Lauren, Hi, I think
you're cute. Can I get your number?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Maybe that would have been the better approach, But I agree,
I think it all happened in the moment, and I
don't think this guy was planning to get the number
until he heard in his ear get those numbers, which
was not what they were referring to.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
They were saying the Braves Fans numbers up, but he
got an idea and he was like, oh I should
get this girl's number. Oh my god. I think it
just all happened. He felt it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't think she was uncomfortable. She also could have
said no, like there was nothing I did not. I
had no problem with it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I thought that he threw it back to them, yeah,
it was over, yeah, and that he was gonna do
some work. Yes, to your point, maybe the numbers were
to get more Braves fans. I did think that he
mentioned phone numbers, and I thought that that was a
funny joke, like, hey, I'm gonna work and try to
get these numbers. Would that have been un It was
that line unprofessional already, Like because I don't feel that way.
(31:37):
I just I don't know if I'm getting to be
old guy and just don't care anymore. And maybe I'm
not offended by as much stuff. I know it's usually
get off my lawn, guy, But I just don't think
this is the battle that you want to fight for it.
It shouldn't be a battle of asking people their phone
numbers to go out on a date.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right, Yes, as I could not agree with you more
because I do think there's a double standard, but I
want to go fight for equal pay, like you know
what I'm saying, Like that's rob upset about I'm not
said about this like go.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I also feel like I don't know men.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Men are the ones typically who hit on women, right,
And I do think if a woman did this, I
feel like people would like it.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I feel like you would see a lot of people
come out and be like you go girl, and then
there would be the ones dragging as well.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
See. I don't know if people would like it, but
I just I don't see how this is harmless and creepy.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I don't think it is.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Maybe it wasn't the best move. Like overall, when you
take a step back, it was entertaining television.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
It was. It absolutely was more.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Entertaining than anything in that game. I would say, especially
if you're a Blue Jays fan, because they were losing
in that game. Isaac Glowing Kron your experience as a broadcaster,
what's your honest opinion?
Speaker 5 (32:49):
How many have you hit on throughout your h I.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Can tell by his face he's pretty No, he's got
a stance on this. I'm thinking you're thinking this is
wildly inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
On the contrary, oh okay, hey, I didn't have a
problem with it. But at the same time, there is
an overwhelming double standard in play.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Here when it comes to stereotypes.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Because I'll be very honest with you, when I found
out about this last night on social media. I didn't
see any pictures, I didn't see any video. I just
saw a name Braves reporter Wiley. And the first thing
I said to myself, honest to goodness, oh no, she
is going to get slammed on social media for this
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because I saw the name Wiley. Not a lot of
dudes named, not a lot anybody. But I assumed it
was a woman, and that was my first thought, which
points to the stereotypes involved.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Interesting. I thought that Isaac would be on the other
side of it, but maybe he consumed it like oll.
He consumed it in his own way and came out
with his opinion. Jason Stewart's here, Chris Purfetts here. I
want to hear their thoughts. We want to hear your thoughts.
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not talking pitchy and hits. Maybe we were talking getting
(35:02):
hit on, because that's what seemed to happen during the
Braves broadcast last night. Wanted to know your thoughts on
the situation on whether the Brave Sideline reporter was wrong.
Just put it that way, Wiley Ballard, was he wrong
for getting a phone number live on the air during
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that Braves Blue Jays game eight seven seven nine nine
on Fox at eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three six'. NINE i know we did have some callers
a little bit, ago BUT i want to get To
Jason stewart. First are you are you put off by
any of? This this Widely ballard.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Interview So i'm not in the least bit put off by,
it But i'm probably not the gender that is put
off by. It there's an Off announcing article that basically
screenshotted a lot of the female reaction to, this and
these women are, reporters they're women in the, business and
they were the ones in the reaction that you guys
talked about That imagine if this was. Reversed this is,
(36:04):
creepy this is, disgusting very. Unprofessional and the one thing
that went through my, mind well two. Things if these
people do get into a, relationship these two and they get,
married this will be the ultimate how did you guys?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Meet?
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Story like when you go to places and they're. Strangers
how'd you guys? Meet this is a great story and
including all of their brushback he got for, this but
it also reading the reaction to it was kind of
a harsh reminder of how hard it is to navigate
the waters for single men in this day and, age
(36:39):
the art of, seduction the art of, attraction that there
you are walking on eggshells with every. Move so that
kind of that that really hit home with me to
see the reaction to. THIS i don't want to dismiss
any of that, reaction but as a as a, man
that's WHAT i came up.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
With Chris, purfetter technical, PRODUCER i know this hit you
at nine.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
O'clock, YEAH i, LOOK i don't. THINK i, Like i'm
not casting judgment on envy. IT i just think in my,
MOMENT i was just awkward situations make me uncomfortable to watch.
Sometimes so when it was unfolding AS i was watching the,
video it's, Like i'm just kind of feeling uncomfortable on
behalf of everyone, involved mostly just thinking on how it's
(37:24):
going to break, down probably because of this kind of,
reaction that it's going to get judged that you, KNOW
i the woman in that moment on the spot over the,
number the guy like trying to play it off with
the people in his. Ears everything just felt. AWKWARD i
missed the part at the end where he actually did
get the, number SO i guess that kind of sticks the.
Landing but just everything in the moment just kind of
(37:45):
like felt super uncomfortable for, me and that just kind
of makes me recoil a little bit on behalf of other.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
People interesting BECAUSE i heard the words, disgusting vile BEFORE
i looked at the, Video and WHEN i looked at the,
VIDEO i thought it was so. INNOCENT i was not
uncomfortable for anybody. INVOLVED i thought it looked so. INNOCENT
i think it's all.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Around, yeah, sorry BECAUSE i just want TO i think
it's the process of consuming. This if you're watching the
game and you see that, exchange you laugh about. It
if you see the headline unprofessional, act you.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
All you came from it with a certain, yes.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
In a certain way of thinking of it instead of
just you, know consuming it organically like it. Was AND
i think so if you're if you're consuming it that,
way you're already going in with a preconceived notion of
what it, is and it may have affected, your, uh
your opinion of. It it's not to say that there
isn't a double, standard BECAUSE i THINK i totally agree
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with you that there.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Is there, is. ABSOLUTELY i just.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Does everything have to be a? Problem can we just
maybe just laugh at? This and it was. FUNNY i
thought the woman handled handled herself even better Than wiley
ballor did and saying again the point of, oh it's
them in your, ear that's what it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Is she was so, forish she was to enjoy.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
It, yeah she liked.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It it was.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
SWEET i thought it was. CUTE i thought it was.
Cute this doesn't mean that you should go and do, that.
Though read the.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
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Speaker 4 (01:11):
She nailed it, folks, No notes, no notes whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah said it enough, man have said it enough.
Speaker 4 (01:19):
We were talking phone numbers on Covino and Rich a
week or two ago. Mancy off the top of her dome,
Welcome in, Monzy. Just you know what Monzy just did.
She did what Nico Harrison would love for her to do.
No notes, no note, no notes whatsoever. For some reason,
the Dallas Mavericks are running their postseason press conferences like
(01:41):
a TGI Fridays. I'm not writing down your order at all,
and whatever comes out comes out. Whatever you say it is,
whatever you say it is. Manzurella sticks. I love TGI Fridays.
By the way, Please don't go away.
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Don't go away. They took one away already near me,
near my parents.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
So so sad because the Monzrella sticks were great everything.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
I don't care if you don't take my order. Surprise,
who knows? Who knows what's coming? Who knows?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
The whiskey glaze which used to be the Jack Daniels,
It's still the same thing.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
When I ate that stuff that was so good.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
You can still dip vegetables in it if you wanted,
sure the same no good it was, you just get
deep fried broccoli or something and then dividend. Good to go.
The point being is when you go to a restaurant
and they don't write down your order, you are playing
with fire. You are one hundred percent playing with fire
(02:38):
because you don't know what they're gonna get right and
what they're gonna get wrong. The Dallas Mavericks are playing
with fire because for some reason, when they call a
postseason press conference, they only pick select members of the
media to show up in front of Nico Harrison and
CEO Rich Waltz. And they also they also say no cameras,
no tape recorders, no recording. What you can write down
(03:02):
is what you get. And I want to bring in
Isaac Lohenkron because you do have some of the details.
Am I understanding that the message of this the whiskey
glazed chicken breasts, if you will from TGI Fridays is
the defense wins Championship phrase from Nico Harrison.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Absolutely that was repeated multiple times during the course of
whatever this was according to the transcript, and yes, Front
Office Sports had the details of how it all went down,
they said. Initially the team did not want to allow
any audio or video recordings, but after reporters objected, the
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MAVs allowed them to record audio of the meeting, as
long as they didn't publish it. And they also asked
reporters and they only invited fifteen. They also asked them
not to post details about the news conference in real
time on social media.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Go ahead, Manzi, because I want to bring up something
that Isaac said. After you're done, it would have.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Just been easier for you to just put out your
own statement in this.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
And not waste everyone's time.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Yes, absolutely, it seems like absolutely pointless. You invited a
small select few people and then you said you couldn't
use any of the footage, So you might won just
written your own statement out and published it.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
It would have had the same effect. Nobody wants to
hear you.
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I once said that Le'Veon Bell led the NFL in
bad decisions, and I think Nico Harrison is a league leader.
In the NBA. He is the Michael Jordan of bad
decisions of the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five NBA season.
He's the goat. Nico Harrison is the goat of bad
decisions and bad pr They had the one press conference
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where Jason Kidd sat awkwardly next to him. And I'm
not saying that kid is innocent in all of this
because that do think he played a role? Hecket sure
seems like Luca thinks he played a role, considering what
Luca was yelling on the court. But the funny thing
about the point that Isaac made of the fifteen reporters,
if you are included, is that a knock on your
reporting in essence? Like they think that you're going to
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play ball with them, or do you take that as
they feel that I'm a fair and balanced reporter, or
do they look at it like, oh, he's one of us, Yes, exactly,
Like I almost think it would be a badge of
honor to be not included, because guess what I'm doing
the real work. I'm doing the real work of the
people that you betrayed, Niko Harrison. I don't want to
be in your stupid makeshift have fun meeting. I don't
(05:31):
want to be a part of that at all.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Absolutely, it is calling you soft because if you were selected,
that means they think or they have some sort of
trust in you that you're going to take their side,
that you're going to follow their rules, like you just
said that.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
You understand.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Yeah, Uc, you know where we're going side. You may
not write something mean about us. You may write something soft,
meaning you're soft. I wonder if anyone turned down the invite.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
No, I didn't know. I did see a few reporters
say I was not invited.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
Where does a badge of honor fine?
Speaker 4 (06:07):
Which I've done to friend's weddings. It's always such a
trump card when you're in a group of friends and
you're the one or two that didn't go and weren't
invited to the wedding, it is such a well I
wasn't invited to the wedding. It's such a stick of
the knife because the rankings are right there. But in
this case, it's not as much rankings. It's just of
do you play ball or do you not play ball?
(06:29):
And the funny thing is is they still have a
season going by the way, they still have a playing
game to play, and possibly too if they end up
eating the Kings tomorrow night. But what doesn't change is
this Manzi and I think that Luca got his reception
that he deserved. In going back, and in fact, I
think it's going to be more of the same. Every
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time the Lakers go back to Dallas. May not be
like the first time, but they're going to be loud
cheers for Luca. People are going to be cheering for
Luca because there are Mavericks fans who will never Becks
fans again after this. You still have a season to play,
still have a game to play. The one defense that
I had in that game against the Lakers were the
team that Nico did want on the court involved Kyrie
(07:11):
Irving and for Luca to Avis' moment, great, but it
wasn't apples to oranges or apples to apples. Whose apples
to oranges because there was no Kyrie Irving. The problem
is now as you move forward, is we don't know
what Kyrie Irving we're going to get coming off of
an ACL injury. He has advanced in his career, so
it's not like a twenty four year old getting it
and maybe coming back even better than ever as maybe
(07:34):
ACL injuries, as severe as they are, they aren't the
end of a career, the death knell that you would
have in previous years. So I absolved Nico of any
of that, of them losing that game. But the point
of his defense wins championships continues to miss the point
(07:54):
about the trade and the trade number one, as Dallas
Mavericks jeral manager, you think the goal is to win
a championship. You think that that's what your goal is
as a GM. And I think that there's more responsibility
on the first part of the Dallas Mavericks meaning the
name Dallas, than it is Mavericks. And that's who he abandoned,
(08:17):
that's who he let down. And yeah, you have this
team and you're trying to win championships, but ultimately you
are a steward of that community, of that fan base,
and if you had any sense whatsoever, you would have
realized what Luca meant to that organization. I know the
trade's over and it's two months old. I still don't
think that the points that we argued two three months
(08:40):
ago are any different than they are right now. So
him saying defense wins championships, it's not about championships and
it's about Dallas. It's not about the Mavericks. And that's
the point that I think he keeps on missing when
he's talking about this deal.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Here's the thing, Dan, There's nothing he can say to
make anything better. I agree with you, he is missing
the point. But I think like even if he got it,
even if he said that, he can't change people's minds.
Like if he came out and said, man, you guys
are right, I didn't realize the effect this was going
to have on Dallas, it.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
Would just cause a second uproar.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There's nothing he can say, nothing he can do, and
it is I'm gonna say unfair, because you're right. The
team that he thought he was gonna have is not
the team he has. And we will never know what
a healthy Cyrie an ad and a healthy Dallas Mavericks
team would have done in this season, because they could
have done well. They absolutely could have done well. But
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what he did two months ago, it's just it. No,
it doesn't matter what comes out of his mouth. There's
nothing he can say to make anyone feel even an
ounce better about this trade.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
You don't think that if he came out and said
publicly in speaking and said, listen, I did what I
thought was best for the organization and still believe the
move that I made was for the best interest of
this organization. But I understand your pain in dealing with this,
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and at the time maybe I didn't understand, but I
still feel like, I think there's got to be some
recognition to a fan base who just lost their hero
and their hero is now in a better situation than
he was prior. I mean Nico saying and Isaac, I
want to bring you in because I don't know if
it's internet folly or if it's fake or truth. But
(10:36):
did he say in that meeting that there wasn't a
guarantee if Luca would have signed the Supermax extension.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I remember him saying that. But you know what's really interesting,
if they had allowed that audio to be out, I could.
Speaker 4 (10:56):
Just plan for you right now.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Yes, yes, I will search you that transcript and get
back to you.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
And the reason because I thought I saw it on
social media.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
I thought I did too.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Yeah, And so that's the point of and everybody says, like, Okay,
come on, it's still like he's fighting this battle against Luca.
You're probably right, there's nothing that he can say. I
think that's that's absolutely it. But it's also of of
when you're I've said this time before, when you're in
a marriage, you learn how to apologize very quickly, and
(11:28):
an apology isn't I'm sorry you felt that way. There's
got to be some responsibility towards it, So for him
to take some responsibility on the hearts that he broke,
I think he's only fair. It may not be the
end all be all, and they're gonna be Mavericks fans
that he lost for life because of it, But my goodness,
just to even take a step towards that way, and
(11:50):
doing it in a private press conference and not speaking
that way, and not speaking in a way that was public,
and only taking three questions after the trade was done
the first time, it's just an awful way to treat
your fans if you've made that awful move.
Speaker 5 (12:04):
Listen. I don't disagree with you that he should say that.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
I just don't think it does anything if you admit
that you let go of something that was so big
to the Dallas community. If you admit that, then they're
gonna dig their heels even more of how terrible of
a GM he is. You didn't realize that, you did
not know that Luca Doncus loved Dallas the way that
we saw it from the beginning. For the last six
(12:29):
years there's stories about how I read he went to
Dick Sporting Goods, like while he was in Dallas and
did a was there working with like the with uh
Dallas community, like when and did when he went to
Dallas for the back for the first time when the
Lakers played, he went to Dick Sporting Goods and did
a whole thing there for the community. I also read
that some kid in Dallas's dad started to gofund me
(12:50):
to get him money to get the kids sporting supplies
for whatever sport he's in. Luca donated because he was
from Dallas, like he is still so invested in Dallas
till this moment. And so I feel like whatever Nico says,
it does not matter, even though I agree with you.
Even though it doesn't matter, you should still say it.
(13:11):
You should still acknowledge it. You should tell the fans
how you messed up.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Isaac Longcron has got some more information.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yeah, to answer what you said earlier. Dan, more specifically,
veteran NBA reporter Tim McMahon was one of those covering this.
He got one of the precious invitations. So this is
a transcript. According to Tim McMahon. Tim McMahon says to Nico,
Luku was gonna sign this super max? Why didn't you
sign him? And then if you really wanted to trade him?
(13:39):
And then Nico jumps in, well, there's no guarantee he
would sign a supermax. McMahon responded, he has guaranteed it.
He was bawling on the bench. Nico Harrison responded, Well,
like I said, we can agree to disagree.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
He's he really like, come on, man, come on, this is.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
This is There's no give, there is no there's nothing
towards and it would go a long way. And it's
starting to become the point of I don't know how
he's ever going to survive in that certain role, and
because everybody feels burned by it. But it's almost like
now he's digging in his heels just to be just
to be that guy, and I feel that there is
(14:20):
some healing that can be done. Look for as great
as Luca was that night in Dallas and at times
has been with the Lakers, there's also been some problems
that popped up in Dallas that have popped up in
games against LA and we're gonna see in the playoffs
as well. On the defensive side of things, and how
things play out, and maybe the Lakers will get a
root awakening. We don't know. They got the Timberwolves in
(14:41):
the first round. Should be a magnificent series with that showdown.
But yeah, just to just to give a little something,
just a little bit, I mean it. It seems like
it's a contentious divorce, like of just all of a sudden,
you were served papers and you've never talked to again.
That's how Nico is handling it. And he's I mean,
(15:04):
he's not even the spoiled one in all of this.
You know, that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
He's digging his heels and I feel like that's the
only option he has. I don't think he made this
decision by himself. I don't think so. I think he's
just the face of it right sure, And unfortunately it
sucks for him that you are being associated as a
person who made this sole decision, and I do think.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Others were involved.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
But acknowledgement is what I think you're asking for, and
I agree with you. Yesterday at work, they're not listening.
One of my co workers made a mistake at work
yesterday and it really screwed us over and when I sorry.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
They're not listening. As well, because they're working, not because
they don't want to listen to the show.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Yeah, they're working. They are working.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
We have a game today, Like absolutely, I was there
and literally like somebody made a mistake, one person that
really screwed us over. And I went and approached the
person and no acknowledgment. It's like, I don't need an apology,
but don't just brush it aside, like it wasn't a
big deal because you screwed us over and again, I
don't need the apology, but acknowledgement that you messed up
(16:08):
and that for some reason you just today you had
a brain fart and this is you messed up, but
no acknowledgment about it.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
And I was so upset. I was so upset because
literally screwed us.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
Over and you should have seen me. Should have seen me, guys,
I had steam coming out of my ears.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
You just want a little give back.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Because who saw the day I did?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
She's the Luka Dacic love this show. Jason Stewart's our
executive producer.
Speaker 7 (16:35):
Oh man, I had something to say, and then I
just heard what Monty said. I think all of us
could relate, all of us listening to working with that
person that just can't be accountable. Yep, a lot of
us work really close to that person.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Oh boy. But anyways, I think.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
I hadn't even thought about, I.
Speaker 4 (16:55):
Said Jason Stewart.
Speaker 7 (16:56):
Yeah, go ahead, until I heard you guys summarize this.
This is kind of a new theory of mine. I'm
going to bounce it off, y'all. Now, I don't know anything.
Speaker 4 (17:05):
You know me.
Speaker 7 (17:05):
I don't get into the weeds of I don't know
Nico Harrison with it. But doesn't it sound like a
man who's been empowered by ownership a little bit? My
theory ownership says we don't want to we don't want
to commit to him for reasons A, B and C. However,
whatever reasons you believe, didn't want to get in shape,
didn't like that, he drinks a lot of beer or whatever,
(17:26):
And you're going to get rid of him, and you're
going to take all the bullets as part of your compensation.
Now you're going to take all the bullets, all the
bs from everybody. Now he's talking like a guy who's empowered,
who could say whatever he wants and be guarded.
Speaker 6 (17:45):
Am I do you?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
What do you think about my read on that? I
think that that's a fair read. The only issue that
I have with the read is the directive. I don't
think from upstairs said get us Anthony Davis. That's the
problem that I have with it is they could say
get rid of Luca. We don't think Luca is our future.
(18:06):
But in the deal that they.
Speaker 5 (18:08):
Did, terrible deal.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
It's an awful deal.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
How did you not get awesome?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
So there there's the heartbreak of just trading Luca on
the surface, and then it's what you got in return.
And that's where I think the defense wins championships portion
rings so hollow, is because I think it's it's more
about Dallas than it is about defense in that community.
But if you want to go the defensive route, why
(18:33):
are you giving us an aging superstar with injury problems
and didn't shop him around the league. Sure, there may
have been a rumor here and a rumor there, but
LA wasn't the only team that would have wanted Luka Doncic. Now,
maybe Minnesota was given an offer, maybe Milwaukee was given
an offer. If he was traded to the Bucks. As
(18:53):
a Bucks fan, I can safely say I don't think
he's signing an extension there. I just don't think that
he is. So it doesn't make sense for the Bucks
to do that. But if the Knicks called, if Boston called,
if the Heat called, if any of those teams, and
you just give him all the first round picks or
whatever player you need, then you did your due diligence
as a GM. So I think that you're right, Jason,
(19:15):
and that he's almost being the role of Commissioner Goodell
as the voice of thirty two owners across the NFL
that want Roger Goodell to say this. It's just the
problem of the way that he went about it and
how we set this team up, and is so steadfast
in his process without seeing the big picture of it all.
So there's two things at play here, and he's zero
(19:37):
for two with.
Speaker 7 (19:38):
This him saying that towards the end, I think IOWI
said that he plans to be here for the three
years of his contract. I mean, obviously he says that.
I don't know if ownership feels that way, if this
was all built into this whole thing of eventually you're
going to get the buy out and find somewhere else
to go. But like so you're saying he's missed on
(19:58):
He missed on both missed on the basketball decision, and
he has really missed on the messaging, including whoever's decision
it was to do this closed door thing, which is
going to be the topic for the next twenty four hours.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Yeah, and the messaging, I think is an extension of
how you deal with that community and how you treat
Dallas and how the fans have felt because there's been
no there has really been no acknowledgment on what Luca meant.
I said this, I read somebody else saying this on
social media today, so it's not an original thought. It
was my original thought. But we have the same thoughts
(20:33):
in Monte think we've even had this discussion as well.
I think Mavericks fans would rather have Luca than win
an NBA championship without him, And so that's the point
of having Luca on your side and being your your
player is more important than winning a trophy, even if
they would win it this year, I think they would
rather trade that trophy for.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
A lifetime of Luca.
Speaker 4 (20:55):
Yes, exactly, having him be your guy is something spell
and maybe having an opportunity year in and year out
to do it. Moving him robbed fans of that opportunity
that no championship can fill and two three months later,
whatever it's been because I forget what April fifteenth, that's right,
(21:17):
for as long as it's been, that still has not
been filled. And that's been the problem with the deal
the whole time.
Speaker 5 (21:23):
Absolutely. And here's the thing, It's like this. This isn't
with every player.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
This is an isolated situation because it's Luka Doncic and
the Maybe a Nicola Jokic would have a similar effect
of Steph Curry, right, maybe, but it's just it's only
few players that we would be feeling like this about.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
And that's what it is. I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I think if you would have asked the Dallas Mavericks fans, hey,
you want to have Luca for the next ten twelve
years and maybe never maybe never win a championship, or
trade him and.
Speaker 5 (21:58):
Maybe win a championship.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
Listen, there comes a time. Damian Lillard in Portland is
the best example. He probably he stayed as long as.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
He possibly can he possibly could, and.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Then a deal finally had to be made and look
at hasn't worked out. On the other side, the Mavericks
decided to not.
Speaker 5 (22:12):
Exhaust that option exactly, exactly.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
That's an issue.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
If we would have been talking about this yes in
year ten eleven, maybe we're feeling different.
Speaker 5 (22:19):
But obviously this.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Was so hush hush because he knew this is this
is not gonna fly with a lot of people.
Speaker 5 (22:29):
It's not gonna fly with a lot of people.
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Still can't get it right in Dallas, can't.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Get it right and with this meaning pathetic again, just
release your own statement.
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(23:40):
in Major League Baseball last night, and it had nothing
to do with any play on the diamond. We're gonna
get to that after Isaac Lohan Kron gives us the
latest of what's happening on this magical Tuesday. Hello Isaac, Hello, All.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
About the general manager starting in the NFL, Miami Dolphins
GM Chris Greer, saying today he is seeking to trade
star cornerback Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 8 (24:01):
Jalen did not ask for a trade, so we went
through the process and just felt that after numerous conversations
and then talking last week with Jalen and his agent.
It was best to move forward and it was best
interest of the Miami Dolphins and for Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
As far as Tyreek Hill is concerned.
Speaker 8 (24:16):
That is not anything that we're pursuing. You know, like
I said, who know, if someone wants to come and
give me two first round picks, then we consider it.
But as of right now, that's not anything we're pursuing.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
And in the NBA, we will start with multiple outlets
supporting Milwaukee starred Damian Lillard's blood clot in his right
calf going to cause him to miss the start of
the playoffs. Milwaukee hosts Indiana starting on Saturday, but also today.
Dallas Mavericks general manager at Nico Harrison said he has
no regrets about trading Luka Doncic to the Lakers in February.
(24:47):
He said, quote, we wanted a two way player to
lead our team, and that was Anthony Davis. We got
what we wanted dot dot dot. Eventually, I'll earn the
trust of this community back on quote now. Front Office
Sports reported the news conference was invite only. Team initially
didn't want to allow any audio or video recordings, but
(25:08):
after reporters objected. The MAVs allowed the reporters to record
audio of the meeting as long as they didn't publish it.
And you know this news conference, in this whole Dallas
media strategy has scored big with fans on social media
at all underscore things, underscore MAVs posting stuff. Couldn't even
(25:28):
get twenty four hours of just enjoying page Becker's in
Dallas before Nico Harrison did something stupid and finally at
Jazz six two six underscore commenting quote I hate Nico Harrison.
My children will hate him. Geez, my grandchildren will hate him,
My great grandchildren will hate him. My entire bloodline will
(25:51):
hate him. Unquote Dan and Monci, I think.
Speaker 4 (25:54):
Paige Becker's first request should be that team should move
to Buffalo. Yeah, what do you think?
Speaker 5 (25:59):
Why not?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yes? Great much? Did you get it and you didn't?
Speaker 5 (26:05):
That's good? That was good.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Boom roasted.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
There it is, hey go boom roasted.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
Thank you very much. Isaac loh and kron hit him
up at Isaac Lohan Krohn speaking, did he say newlyweds?
Did you mention newlyweds at any point? Or did you
say I thought there was there was something of of
of maybe Bliss I thought there was some tie into
of a relationship or whatnot. Because it transitions to our
(26:33):
next door, it does, it does where Last night the
Braves are taking on the Blue Jays in a rematch
of the nineteen ninety two World Series, which I know
so many of us of my generation will remember. You
believe that the Toronto Blue Jays were in World Series,
Manzi and they actually went the back to back World Series. Yeah,
and one of them both. That's that's the crazy part.
(26:53):
Last night, a rematch of the ninety two World Series,
had nothing to do again with anything that happened on
the field. It was all about what happened during the
Braves regional broadcast on FanDuel Sports Network and Sideline. Reporter
Wiley Ballard was up in a specific area of what
was formerly known as SkyDome and was chatting it up
(27:16):
with fans and play by play announcer Brandon Gordon. This
is how it all went down.
Speaker 9 (27:21):
We having a lot of fun up here. Off the
coroner rooftop. Who do we got you?
Speaker 6 (27:24):
What's your name?
Speaker 9 (27:24):
My name is Lauren Laurence, all right, and I'm Kayla, Kayla,
and you guys hanging out the rooftop lounge.
Speaker 5 (27:29):
Often once a year I come out to visit.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Okay, well, we timed it pretty well.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
All right.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
How are you guys feeling my root for the Braves today?
Speaker 4 (27:38):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (27:39):
I'm hoping for the bus. What about you? Are you
Braves fan?
Speaker 7 (27:42):
Now?
Speaker 10 (27:43):
Not?
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Quiet?
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Well?
Speaker 6 (27:44):
Quiet?
Speaker 9 (27:45):
All right, I'm gonna go to work up here, guys,
come luck the rest of the way. Okay, Wiley, we
got five innings, four innings to get the numbers.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
Come on it, come on, get us.
Speaker 4 (27:55):
Some more Bras fans.
Speaker 6 (27:58):
All right, So they want me to get your number,
they want you to get.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
I'm dead serious, they're saying to my right, and I
shouldn't believe me because she thinks you guys are are
not making this up. Even if you guys weren't, I
might use that in the future. That's actually pretty good move.
This is unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
So the best part of this right now is that
while they could totally be faking, and this might be
the new move, you just walk around with a fan
duel microphone and an earpieceing and convinced fans that they're
actually on TV.
Speaker 9 (28:24):
I should have thought of this years ago. I am speechless.
I got the number. We're good.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I thought it was amazing. I thought it was hilarious.
Other people have had different a difference of opinions. MANSI yeah, unprofessional,
that's what I've heard. Yeah, imagine the genders being reversed. Yeah,
extremely unprofessional. This is not acceptable. Those just a few
(28:59):
of the phrases used to talk about Wiley Ballard's asking
a woman her phone number while doing a report on
the Braves Regional Network. I am just not ready to
take it that seriously. I thought it was fun. There
may be a double standard. I just did not think
(29:23):
that what that was was this egregious sort of moment
in sports broadcasting that we will remember forever. Maybe it
was a little out of touch, if somebody wants to
say that, But I thought it was fun. I thought
it was in jest. I don't think that was the
main point of the whole bit. I think it turned
(29:44):
into that everybody was laughing. I thought the woman in
the piece played her part well in saying like, oh,
they're saying it.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (29:54):
I was not offended by this whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
I was not bothered or offended. But yes, it is
a double standard, that's true. If a woman did that,
she would be crucified. She would absolutely be dragged through
the mud.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I believe all of that.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
She may have been fired on the spot. Honestly, I
believe that there is a mega double standard.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
But I was not bothered by it. I did not
think it was vile.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I did not think it was nasty or creepy like
other words I read. I had to see the video
because I was seeing these words as well, but I
saw nasty, creepy, vile. And then I looked at the
video and I was like, Okay, is it inappropriate?
Speaker 5 (30:34):
I guess you can say that you're working.
Speaker 2 (30:36):
Maybe you should have stepped aside, taking your little ear
piece out, not had the cameras rolling, then come back
and been like Lauren, Sorry, I said Laurens the first time.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
I just got some hurt. But Lauren, Hi, I think
you're cute. Can I get your number?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Maybe that would have been the better approach, But I agree,
I think it all happened in the moment, and I
don't think this guy was planning to get the number
until he heard in his ear get those numbers, which
was not what they were referring to.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
They were saying the Braves Fans numbers up, but he
got an idea and he was like, oh I should
get this girl's number. Oh my god. I think it
just all happened. He felt it.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I don't think she was uncomfortable. She also could have
said no, like there was nothing I did not. I
had no problem with it whatsoever.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
I thought that he threw it back to them, yeah,
it was over, yeah, and that he was gonna do
some work. Yes, to your point, maybe the numbers were
to get more Braves fans. I did think that he
mentioned phone numbers, and I thought that that was a
funny joke, like, hey, I'm gonna work and try to
get these numbers. Would that have been un It was
that line unprofessional already, Like because I don't feel that way.
(31:37):
I just I don't know if I'm getting to be
old guy and just don't care anymore. And maybe I'm
not offended by as much stuff. I know it's usually
get off my lawn, guy, But I just don't think
this is the battle that you want to fight for it.
It shouldn't be a battle of asking people their phone
numbers to go out on a date.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
Right, Yes, as I could not agree with you more
because I do think there's a double standard, but I
want to go fight for equal pay, like you know
what I'm saying, Like that's rob upset about I'm not
said about this like go.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I also feel like I don't know men.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Men are the ones typically who hit on women, right,
And I do think if a woman did this, I
feel like people would like it.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I feel like you would see a lot of people
come out and be like you go girl, and then
there would be the ones dragging as well.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
See. I don't know if people would like it, but
I just I don't see how this is harmless and creepy.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
I don't think it is.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
Maybe it wasn't the best move. Like overall, when you
take a step back, it was entertaining television.
Speaker 5 (32:36):
It was. It absolutely was more.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Entertaining than anything in that game. I would say, especially
if you're a Blue Jays fan, because they were losing
in that game. Isaac Glowing Kron your experience as a broadcaster,
what's your honest opinion?
Speaker 5 (32:49):
How many have you hit on throughout your h I.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Can tell by his face he's pretty No, he's got
a stance on this. I'm thinking you're thinking this is
wildly inappropriate.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
On the contrary, oh okay, hey, I didn't have a
problem with it. But at the same time, there is
an overwhelming double standard in play.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Here when it comes to stereotypes.
Speaker 3 (33:13):
Because I'll be very honest with you, when I found
out about this last night on social media. I didn't
see any pictures, I didn't see any video. I just
saw a name Braves reporter Wiley. And the first thing
I said to myself, honest to goodness, oh no, she
is going to get slammed on social media for this
(33:34):
because I saw the name Wiley. Not a lot of
dudes named, not a lot anybody. But I assumed it
was a woman, and that was my first thought, which
points to the stereotypes involved.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
Interesting. I thought that Isaac would be on the other
side of it, but maybe he consumed it like oll.
He consumed it in his own way and came out
with his opinion. Jason Stewart's here, Chris Purfetts here. I
want to hear their thoughts. We want to hear your thoughts.
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not talking pitchy and hits. Maybe we were talking getting
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hit on, because that's what seemed to happen during the
Braves broadcast last night. Wanted to know your thoughts on
the situation on whether the Brave Sideline reporter was wrong.
Just put it that way, Wiley Ballard, was he wrong
for getting a phone number live on the air during
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that Braves Blue Jays game eight seven seven nine nine
on Fox at eight seven seven nine nine six sixty
three six'. NINE i know we did have some callers
a little bit, ago BUT i want to get To
Jason stewart. First are you are you put off by
any of? This this Widely ballard.
Speaker 7 (35:41):
Interview So i'm not in the least bit put off by,
it But i'm probably not the gender that is put
off by. It there's an Off announcing article that basically
screenshotted a lot of the female reaction to, this and
these women are, reporters they're women in the, business and
they were the ones in the reaction that you guys
talked about That imagine if this was. Reversed this is,
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creepy this is, disgusting very. Unprofessional and the one thing
that went through my, mind well two. Things if these
people do get into a, relationship these two and they get,
married this will be the ultimate how did you guys?
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Meet?
Speaker 7 (36:18):
Story like when you go to places and they're. Strangers
how'd you guys? Meet this is a great story and
including all of their brushback he got for, this but
it also reading the reaction to it was kind of
a harsh reminder of how hard it is to navigate
the waters for single men in this day and, age
(36:39):
the art of, seduction the art of, attraction that there
you are walking on eggshells with every. Move so that
kind of that that really hit home with me to
see the reaction to. THIS i don't want to dismiss
any of that, reaction but as a as a, man
that's WHAT i came up.
Speaker 4 (36:56):
With Chris, purfetter technical, PRODUCER i know this hit you
at nine.
Speaker 10 (37:02):
O'clock, YEAH i, LOOK i don't. THINK i, Like i'm
not casting judgment on envy. IT i just think in my,
MOMENT i was just awkward situations make me uncomfortable to watch.
Sometimes so when it was unfolding AS i was watching the,
video it's, Like i'm just kind of feeling uncomfortable on
behalf of everyone, involved mostly just thinking on how it's
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going to break, down probably because of this kind of,
reaction that it's going to get judged that you, KNOW
i the woman in that moment on the spot over the,
number the guy like trying to play it off with
the people in his. Ears everything just felt. AWKWARD i
missed the part at the end where he actually did
get the, number SO i guess that kind of sticks the.
Landing but just everything in the moment just kind of
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like felt super uncomfortable for, me and that just kind
of makes me recoil a little bit on behalf of other.
Speaker 2 (37:52):
People interesting BECAUSE i heard the words, disgusting vile BEFORE
i looked at the, Video and WHEN i looked at the,
VIDEO i thought it was so. INNOCENT i was not
uncomfortable for anybody. INVOLVED i thought it looked so. INNOCENT
i think it's all.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
Around, yeah, sorry BECAUSE i just want TO i think
it's the process of consuming. This if you're watching the
game and you see that, exchange you laugh about. It
if you see the headline unprofessional, act you.
Speaker 5 (38:20):
All you came from it with a certain, yes.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
In a certain way of thinking of it instead of
just you, know consuming it organically like it. Was AND
i think so if you're if you're consuming it that,
way you're already going in with a preconceived notion of
what it, is and it may have affected, your, uh
your opinion of. It it's not to say that there
isn't a double, standard BECAUSE i THINK i totally agree
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with you that there.
Speaker 5 (38:47):
Is there, is. ABSOLUTELY i just.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Does everything have to be a? Problem can we just
maybe just laugh at? This and it was. FUNNY i
thought the woman handled handled herself even better Than wiley
ballor did and saying again the point of, oh it's
them in your, ear that's what it.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Is she was so, forish she was to enjoy.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
It, yeah she liked.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
It it was.
Speaker 5 (39:09):
SWEET i thought it was. CUTE i thought it was.
Cute this doesn't mean that you should go and do, that.
Though read the.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Room read the room, first you know What i'm. Saying,
absolutely She's Monte.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
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