July 7, 2025 • 53 mins
Dan Beyer and Monse Bolanos in for C&R as they discuss the bad blood between the Astros and Dodgers and what other unintentional rivalries exist in the world of sports. Dan and Monse take calls about unintended rivals.Dan and Monse talk about the MLB All-Star selections and how to address all of the snub talk in the media.
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Great to see.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You, Great to see you, and you too.
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and Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wel come man. On a Monday. It is Fox Sports
Radio a Monday where the Houston Astros got out the
brooms and sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Wait this, I didn't sign up for this you did
sign up for this, sign this conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Inc. The Astros go to Dodgers Stadium, win not one,
not two, but three games in a row, leave LA
with the perfect Ledger. But that's not what it's all about.
There's all Star games to talk about, and we will
and we'll talk about what's happening in the NBA. A
trade today that Monzi can't wait to talk about. But
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the Astros go and sweep the Dodgers. But it had
nothing to do with the win on Friday, the win
on Saturday, or the win on Sunday. The win on
Friday was pretty ridiculous eighteen to one.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Hey, I think that was the final score.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But throughout the weekend this was an opportunity, one that
our own Jason Stewart even got to take in himself
on Sunday. Because it's the ongoing rivalry. That isn't a rivalry.
This isn't wondering if the Padres are the Dodgers' rival,
This isn't are the Vikings the Packers rival that's this
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is none of that. This is the Dodgers hate the Astros,
and from now on, from from twenty seventeen until now on,
they will always hate the Houston Astros. That's what this
weekend was about, Moncie.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yes, it was about that because do you remember what
happened in twenty seventeen, Dan, Do.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We need Astros world champs?
Speaker 6 (02:32):
So rude?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So rude?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
The cheating Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yes, they cheated against the Yankees, cheated on the way
to beating the Dodgers and winning the World Series. And
cheaters never gonna forget, never get, always gonna be cheaters, cheaters,
once cheaters forever. I have heard that when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Men and women, ones a cheat always achieved.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Exactly do you believe in that? I?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, I completely do.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
It's hard to not right one, I just want to
believe people can.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Believe, but they can't. I complete that once a cheater
are always a cheater. Now, at some point it's gonna stop,
But once a cheat are always a cheater. And I
feel that that thought process, not that the Astros are
gonna cheat again, but it's apropos in this situation because
the Astros are the Astros, and the Dodgers will always
think that the Astros are cheaters.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
From what you laid out, absolutely absolutely, it's hard to
pretend like that's not a sore subject that whenever it
comes up, I'm like, ugh, especially because I think with Kershaw.
I do think the Kershaw slander derives a lot from
twenty seventeen, Like if we would have won the Kershaw
playoff slander maybe would not be what it is today.
And he had a great game one in twenty seventeen
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against the Astros, but he gets such slander, and I
throw it back to if that wouldn't have happened, Kershaw
wouldn't be hated as much, or would not that he
is loved.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
But you know what I'm talking about. Everyone always brings
up playoff Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nothing has been changed. The Astros are still World Series champions.
Was not vague cadd Jason Stewart was there on Sunday.
If you missed any of Jason Stewart at Dodger Stadium,
I believe we have some of that as well.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the t twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for?
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Answer me?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Are you still waiting on that answer? Jason Stewart?
Speaker 9 (04:25):
Yeah, he never answered me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's odd.
Speaker 9 (04:27):
I will say this, he did ground out or fly
out and that one at bat, So I'm guessing I
rattled him for one at bat. Now the ninth inning,
when he took a pitch a fastball over the leftfield fence,
I guess he wasn't rattled anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, no, he tends to will not get rattled.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Will you always hate the Astros?
Speaker 9 (04:47):
I will, And I don't even know if it's the
Astro's fault, And I'll blame Rob Manfred. Remember if you
go back eight years, Rob Manfred gave players complete immunity
for telling the story, so not one player has ever
suffered any punishment for it. And then when Altuve himself
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had a chance to be contrite and explain what he did,
and I won't blame him for this English second language,
he didn't come off as either contrite or apologetic. So
it just kind of left the Dodgers with a bad
taste in their mouth. Nobody was punished, the title was
not cleared, and Altuve came off as kind of this
unapo apologized jerk. So I think I blame Manfred first
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and foremost, and then I blame the Astros.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
See that it's funny you say that because I am
actually in a similar spot with my fandom with the Seahawks.
The Seahawks have rivals. They had rivals in the AFC
West Broncos Raiders, but they moved to the NFC West,
and really it's the Niners and Rams that's that's their
their rivals right now. But I will never, as a
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lifelong Seahawks fan ever cheer for the Pittsburgh Steelers again.
And it's not their fault technically that they got all
the calls in Super Bowl forty, but it kind of
is because they were the Pittsburgh Steelers. It was eighty
five percent Steeler fans at Ford Field for Super Bowl forty.
It's everything that comes with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And while
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the officiating crew was awful and even admitted as much
after the Super Bowl, I will never get over that
game and never get over even when the Seahawks won
Super Bowl forty eight. It wasn't a o that monkey's
off the back from super Bowl forty like it's still there.
They could have had two Super Bowl championships, but I
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will never cheer for the Pittsburgh Steelers for that reason.
And while you want to blame Rob Manfred I could
blame Bill Levy, the official in that game, and all
of the referee or the other officials in that contest,
but it's easier to take it out of the Pittsburgh Steelers, absolutely,
and they were less listen than the Houston Astros were.
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And it's been now going on twenty years that that
game was played, So I get it, and I feel
that there's rivals for every team in sports, but there
are unintended rivals that I think make things more interesting.
So Astros Dodgers this weekend super interesting because of that
unintended rivalry.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I didn't agree with you more and I hear what
you're saying, Jason, but I'm not gonna lie. I think
my hatred will stay for the Astros even once Hosel
Tuba leaves.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
But you're right, Hoseel tub right now. Enemy number one
will be until the end of time.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
But it will be the Astros for as long I
don't even know when. And it does partially have to
do with the fact that nothing was done. That's super
super annoying. Nothing was done about that, and not even
Dodger vans and Yege fans should be mad and everybody
else who they cheated along the way with but like
baseball fans should be mad that Manfred did nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Nothing, they should be, but they're not. That's your point.
It's only us and so then as a Dodger fan,
I and I don't want to put words in your mouth,
but I would believe like one of the comforting things
about being a Seahawk fan is with that game, everybody
also thinks that that they got screwed, except for the Steelers.
But to your case, and if you working with the
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Dodgers and Jason being a fan, I'll call you a
fan as well. Yeah, you being a fan of the Dodgers,
is nobody else has your back anymore because they're over it. Yes,
they didn't lose the World Series because of that. Even
if cheating was going on in the game against the
White Sox with a middle reliever, White Sox don't care anymore.
They're not booing the I mean they're booing their own team.
They don't have to boo the Astros. It's now only
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your battle. And that's what's also got to make it
doubly frustrating.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
You're not wrong, You're not wrong when people are so
overt except us.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
And the whole L two a thing, by the way,
And I was thinking about this yesterday as I was
heckling him, and I had a good time doing that.
I'm fifty two years old and I was heckling a ballplayer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
The thing that pisses me off most is how good
he is. Yes, the fact that he shows up almost
every park, especially the Dodgers, and he performs as well.
He's gonna walk off the field and as soon as
he can, he's gonna walk in into Cooperstown. He's a
really good player. And if he wasn't as good, it
wouldn't hurt as much.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You know, Yes, I really agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
When when a minor leaguer is busted for steroids, I
get it. They're trying to make the big leagues. In
a way, it's a Barry Bond sort of thing. Why
did Bonds need to do all this stuff? He was
already amazing as he was. When Brady Anderson does it,
or Rafael palm Merrow trying to get to that next level,
even Sammy Sosa, why do you do it? Why did
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you need to do it? Barry Bonds is the poster
child of that. Is L two Bay is great but
when you say, like you would have been a Hall
of Famer if you didn't do all of that stuff,
but you didn't help yourself, it's completely frustrating.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Very and Barry Bombs didn't even win at least Hotel Too,
but one one after the cheating he gets and then
he won another one. Yes, it's true, I know that,
but you know, think about the people who cheated and
it didn't even get them a world series.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I want to go to Papa Bear for a second,
and I want to hear from you as well. Eight
seven seven Fox eight seven seven nine six six three
six nine Ryan Smith. Yeah, he does, and you should too,
by the way, not okay, I know you're a Raiders fan.
And I said this to Mancy prior to the show.
I go, I know who Ryan Smith hates. I know
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his unintended rival of the Raiders. Because it's not the Broncos,
it's not the Chargers, it's not the Chiefs. I know
who your unintended rivalry. Sure, I think so you know who?
I said, yes, yes, yes, who is it? The Patriots? Yes?
Nailed it? Ye yes, And that's because of the.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Tuck rule, the cheating, Yes, cheating and cheating yes, cheating.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So whenever the Patriots did well, it brought you back
to that point and the tuck rule, And they did
well a lot, they won a lot, and it all
went back to that point. We're not alone in here.
You could tweet Mancy at Monzi, millennials, hit me up
at Dan Byer on Fox, But who is your unintended rival?
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Because they are all across sports? In fact, talking about
the Seahawks, I feel like the Packers had a problem
with the Seahawks at one time because of the fail
mary where when they had the replacement reps and they
called a touchdown on what was clearly an interception that
should have ended the game, but because of the chaos
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that it was, there was nothing that they could do
to overturn it. Like I felt like that added to
the rivalry. There were connections between the two organizations previously,
but I felt like that was one. I don't know
if there are others that they feel, but I felt
like it was that way. But I know this is
the case throughout sports. Is there as is the unintended rival.
The ones are usually natural because they're geographic or you've
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played for a long time, but it's the ones that
are outside outside of that realm. In college football, Oregon
in Oklahoma had like a rivalry at one point, and
this was years back, dating the stuff that happened in
their games, and all of a sudden, the Ducks are
hating the Sooners and the Sooners are hating the Ducks.
It's an interesting phenomenon because it's a bit random, but
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they're obviously all based on for a certain reason. But
I know that everyone's sports teams, you have a unintended
rival if you will.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
You know, for a while, as a Clipper fan, I
hated the Memphis Grizzlies. There was a while where it
was back and forth between us and Zach Randolph always
went off against us.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
But that one has.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Died because the Clippers don't have a rival like the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
But it's like we don't have the Glippers.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Don't have a ride or I'll tell you who. I thought. Well,
for a while, it was Golden State before we took off,
like with Sure, before they started winning titles. Yeah, there
was something there that they had with them in the.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Warriors, Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I go back more of the I think it was
the Memphis Grizzlies and I was always like I don't
want to see them ever again.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I get that the Grizzlies have kind of had one
with Minnesota. I mean, same conference as well. Maybe not
as random, but they had gone back and forth. So
that's that's what we want to hear from you. The
phone lines are starting the line up eight seven seven
nine nine one fox eight seven seven nine nine to
six six three sixty nine. I felt that the Raiders
one was appropriate, but I also it's tough to say
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the Steelers from the immaculate reception for what they had
in the nineteen seventies, like that stuff ends up moving on.
I'll tell you another one. Speaking of moving I thought
that whenever the Colts played the Ravens that it would
be a rivalry game because the Ravens were their fans
were mad that the Colts left Baltimore in the early eighties.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You'd think that was the case. I asked my buddy
Jerry Coleman in Baltimore one time. I said, what's what's
it like? What's it what's the feeling of when the
Colts come back to Baltimore Because and now it's been
forty years. When I asked him it was probably about
thirty thirty five years, and he said once the Ravens
won their first Super Bowl over the Giants in Super
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Bowl thirty five, that went away, so that he raced
it like they got they got the win, they got
their own championship. The Colts hadn't won one at that time.
It made everything good. And now the Colts have been
an indie longer than they were in Baltimore, I think,
considering what we've gotten the Ravens even for that matter
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as well, or at least the timeline is closed. But
the point is is that that's what it took for Baltimore
to kind of move on from the Colts and to
really just be like, all right, it's normal. But I
don't there's not going to be a moving on for
me at any point. I don't know if there will
be for the Dodgers, and I don't know if there
will be for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
The Dodgers, I think winning obviously, if you win a
World Series Dodgers against the Astros, that might, yeah, alleviate.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
A lot of it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You'll never get it back though, never.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Gonna get it back, but it would alleviate a lot
of it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Sure, Winning alleviates, Yes, it does, it does exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It absolutely does. She's Batzi Belanio. So I'm Dan Byer
in for Cavino and Rich Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Ryan Smith had the Raiders the Patriots. As a Raiders fan. Jason, obviously,
as the Dodger fan, hates the Houston Astros. As you
heard him yelling at jose Lte over the weekend. That
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is how you heckle, Isaac Glowing Kron. Are you even
a fan of any team to have an unintended rival?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's actually much worse and much unprofessional than that. When
I was a kid, I was obsessed with the La
Kings hockey team. They make the Standley Cup Final for
the first time ever in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
There's the curve stick incident.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
But besides that, Patrick Waugh of the Montreal All Canadians
completely plays out of his mind, shuts them down and
just crushes me as a child. Years later, as a reporter,
I'm covering the NHL All Star Game and there he
is the man who caused me such pain as an
innocent youth, Patrick Waugh, and I started staring at him,
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I started giving him the evil eye, and it got
to the point where he turned and looked at me,
and he couldn't have been nicer. He said, hey, buddy,
here are you okay? And I'm like, oh, I suddenly
came back to professional Isaac and I was like yeah,
but I was like so devastated by that man that
I kind of find myself kind of crossing the line there,
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to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Also, by the way, saved by the Bell.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Growing up, Zach and Kelly were this thing and they
got broken up by this guy Jeff and after Patrick Muldoon.
I saw Patrick Muldoon at a Laker game one night
just as a fan, and the same thing happened.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I couldn't separate, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Reality production Zach and Gallant.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And then he cheated on Kelly with that blonde right,
couldn't stand her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, the guy was smooth though he was.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
He was once a cheat, always always a cheat.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Jesse's in Indiana joining us on Cavino and Rich Jesse,
Welcome in Happy Monday.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
How are you, hey, how's it going?
Speaker 11 (17:27):
Happy Monday to you all?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
All right? Who who do you hate that you maybe
shouldn't hate, but you have to hate for a reason.
Speaker 11 (17:35):
So minds the weird one. I'm a big soccer guy.
I'm in I'm in southern Indiana close to Ticket Tucky,
So I'm a Louisville City fan. Uh and the second
division of US soccer and the team I absolutely hate
plays and doesn't even play in our division but one Knoxville.
I can never cheer for them. We played them in
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a preseason game and they broke our captain's life. I
played for two years. He's played once in the last
two years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Oh yeah, no, hate them forever done, absolutely done.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, even at that level, Like you're just like, there's
something dirty, dirty about it. Stu's in Vegas a Raiders fan?
Or does he hate the Raiders. We're about to find out, Stu.
Welcome to Camino and.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Ra How we doing, guys?
Speaker 11 (18:22):
I hate the Raiders just because I always hated. I
don't I'm just tired of hearing about the Tuck.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, Ryan Smith not a not a fan, Stu, who
are you a fan of?
Speaker 10 (18:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Jeezu you you? Oh you dropped them Trump stew has disappeared.
Trump propaganda. Stop the propaganda.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Convenient convenient there, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I love Ah. He hates the Raiders because he hates
them talking about them.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yes, and he's a Vegas Yeah, he probably hears it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Tom's in Florida, Tom welcome.
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Yeah, Hi guys, Mine is I have an ultimate hatred
of Dan Quinn and Kyle Shanahan as a Falcons fan
all my life. Just run the damn ball against the Patriots,
so I cheer gets whoever they're coaching, just running the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So you hate the Commanders and forty nine ers forty
nine ers, Oh my, yeah, I get it. I honestly
think they hated each other. No, they didn't hate each other,
they just weren't on the same page. He should be
more mad at Kyle Shanahan than Dan Quinn though.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So if he's gonna hate a team, he should hate
the forty nine Ers more so than the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Sure, but wherever Kyle Shanahan, if he were to move again,
he's gonna hate that team.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, that is steady.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
It's more of him. But right now, as the forty.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Nine Ers, I would say seventy five Shanahan for what
happened twenty five Quinn in that spot. There you go,
So Shanahan would say seventy five percent of the reason
why we're in this game is because of me. But
that's beside the point. It's what happened in Super Bowl
fifty one. Spencer's in La Spencer, what gift do you have?
Speaker 12 (20:11):
So I'm a Rams fan and I have a friend
who's a Saints fan, and after that twenty seventeen NFC
Championship game, my friend, every time he sees me is
we would have won that Super Bowl if not for
that passing span. Ever since that game, he just hates
the Rams, And I think the same could probably be
said for every Saints fan.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I agree with that there I would if I'm a
Saints fan.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Bri Brie I know Brianna Mirel yet, yes, was at
the update desk yesterday, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Producer here at Fox Sports Radio. She is a Saints fan.
I I can get on board with that.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Yeah, totally makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And they were also in the same division at one time,
which is actually the funny because the Falcons caller called
in Falcons and forty nine Ers were in the same
division a long time ago, NFC West. But there was
a there could have been a rivalry there if you
wanted to. But I would, I would. I if I'm
a Saints fan. I'm never getting over that pass interference call.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Probably not. You probably dream about it now.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Think of that time seven because that's what happened in
the Super Bowl to the Seahawks, because there were like
seven calls that they got screwed on against Pittsburgh. Because
Jerome Bettis is playing his last game. All right, Mike's
in Saint Paul, Mike, Welcome into Fox Sports Radio. Mike.
(21:31):
All right there, I think. Do we have Mike. No,
we don't have Mike.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's all right. We'll get to Mike. A lot of
great recommendations. We'll get more again. Hit Mancy up at
Moncy Blanos. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
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Speaker 6 (22:17):
Clippers joining the finals.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I wore black for the funeral that I thought it was.
But Moncey is all game for it. She's down, yeah,
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Speaker 5 (22:30):
All of it?
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Speaker 6 (22:50):
Nicely done there, Ryan Smith, what's up everybody? Happy Monday?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Thanks for tuning in to Cavino and Rich on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
The guys were out.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Because they were in earlier to day for the Dan
Patrick Show. I am Anti Bilanas alongside Dan Byer, and
we're talking about the teams that you hate, not because
they're your rival, but maybe because of something else, like
the cheating Houston Astros from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Ten, or like the Atlanta Falcons coaching staff in Super
Bowl fifty one. Like it is specific, like there is
really individual people that people are talking about when it comes.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
To their hates exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And we are taking callers. So let's go to Eric
in North Carolina. Eric, who do you hate?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Let us know why?
Speaker 14 (23:33):
All right, here we go two thousand and one Super
Bowl Panthers Patriots. If John Casey does not kick that
ball out of bounds, does Tom Brady ever exist? And
do the Panthers finally have a Super Bowl?
Speaker 10 (23:44):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (23:44):
Wow, thank you?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So poor guy didn't have a lot to kick in.
That game was a high score, one of the better
Super Bowls that we had. But yeah, I gave the
Patriots the field position and then Adam Vintteri becomes the
the hero. I get it. I get like, there's unfortunately
this is the deal. Like Bill Buckner, you know, may
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you rest in peace, But for so long was the
villain to Red Sox fans because of the air. Maybe
not all, but to some there are people who stand out.
I love the team aspect of it where it's just
random in terms of but the randomness may have happened
in a big spot, you like in the super Bowl
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with the Seahawks and Steelers. It don't play every year,
play every four years, but when they play, there's something
to me that really still bothers me. No regular season
win is going to take over it. I said that
even winning in Super Bowl forty eight did not make
things feel better. I know you feel otherwise than others
feel that way, but just any old Like if the
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Seahawks were to beat the Steelers, I guess in a
super Bowl, maybe that would help, but it still wouldn't
undo the how they were wronged.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Super It wouldn't undo, but it would absolutely alleviate. Johnny
Papa's I think is how you say it tweeted at
me and said thanks for tweeting, thanks for the follow up.
Set can confirm that beating the rival changes everything.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Signed the two thousand and four Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Like you won't completely forget it, but it absolutely alleviates it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, and how they did it was yes, and like
if they would have won five games, it wouldn't have
had the same effect.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Sure, yes, all of.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
That would matter, but no even going you know, I
can imagine just walk off home run against the Astros
in Game seven of a World Series.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Oh, that would be so epic. That'd be so epic.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Bill's in Florida, Bill, Welcome to Convino and Rich.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Hey guys, I got a reverse hatred story. Back in
the day, I hated Tommy Disorder. I was a big
Braves fan and the Sorda was always beating the Braves
back then. Well, anyway, like a year later after that,
I decided to go to the spring training game when
the Astra was played in Outfielder County. So I bought
takeos four rows up right behind Lasorda and Ron Karanaski. Well,
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ale Hangel, Paine's wife and little boy, probably about five
or six at a time, came walking up and sat
down right in front of me. Well, Lesorta turned around,
saw her, and he was the nicest guy to them
the whole game. I mean, it was just totally changed
my perception of Tommy Lasorda.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Those moments actually are pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So he's telling me that I'm gonna meet like Hosel
tuve Ata in line at Chipotle, and I'm gonna be like, man,
you are awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
They we're gonna speak in Spanish and.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Then you're gonna go up to the register and you're
gonna find out that he bought your Chipotle for.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You, right, all of the things, all of that, and
left me a gift card for it. But that is
a great story, and Tommy Losorta has tons of those,
so no surprise there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Speaking of the Dodgers, Gill's in Virginia.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, let's go to Gil in Virginia, who hates Dodgers fans. Hi, Gil,
thanks for calling into Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 15 (27:00):
Hello, Moncy why and a long time Astros fan and
you know who else? In twenty seventeen got fined for
cheating the Boston Red Sox. But I don't hear any
of you Dodgers fans bringing them up. You know why,
because they didn't beat you. So the only two the
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only differences between those two teams and every other team
in MLB is they got caught. Every team cheats, Every
team cheats, so y'all can get off your high Hoss.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Who was the manager of the Red Sox when they
won in the two thousand and four, Yeah, I wasn't.
I could have swore he used to play for the Astros. Terry,
it was Terry Frankel. I'm not talking about that one.
I'm talking about the other one when they beat the
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, Denny Korr used to play for the Astros.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's crazy how that works.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
There was Young Overlaps.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
There's some Apple Watch stuff as well involved. As he said,
the facts were maybe misconstrued.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Am I Am I wrong on this? So Gil, thanks
for listening. Yeah, thanks for You're a little foggy on
the details.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Right.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
So, twenty seventeen, the Astros were convicted of cheating. Okay,
Alex Cora was a coach on that Astros team who
went to the Red Sox in twenty eighteen and started
pulling the same shenanigans with the Red Sox the next year.
Who did the who the Red Sox beating the World
Series Dodgers? The Dodgers. Alex Cora got suspended what a year? Yes,
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So I think those are the details, right? Am I
am I wrong on any of that?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think the details are everybody cheats and that was
actually supposed to be Arim song instead of everybody hurts.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But everybody cheats. Stop it, stop it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Jeffreys in Arizona. I think he's going to the college
game with this one. Jeffrey, Welcome in Hell.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Actually go by the new turf. But I used to
be tussy Toro the mascot, so I'm going outside the box.
I despise Oklahoma State's mascot, the ugliest mascot ever, the
Cowboys and also my favorite, even though my favorite pet
part boxer Partnerbrador Duke. I cannot stand the Duke and
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the dookies.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Why because of the antics of the mascots? Is that
why the well, no, the appearance. Okay, right, I think
we're starting to we're starting to, you know, veer off,
We're starting We're going straight.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Up because not for an incident or a moment or
a series.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I hate my husband, you know, like thanks Joan, Joan
and des Moines. No, don't even bother calling. We know
it's not working out. You know who I love Isaac Lohink.
Let's go to him for the latest. What's happening today?
We mascots are being brought into it. Why do you
hate the Duke mascot just because the way he looks.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And doesn't everybody speaking of love. I'm hunched over deep
into research about something that is just beginning to trend,
and that is a photograph of legendary NFL quarterback Tom
Brady appearing to have dinner with a famous woman and
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that picture is starting to really really trend and go viral. Sidney,
I was actually gonna ask you to guess it's actually
a different woman than Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Manca, you want to take a shot at it?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
What exactly what are they doing? Something soap again?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, they appear to be having dinner, which I'll get to.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
It's a it's a photograph that is taking social media
by storm right now.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Any guesses on who the ladies?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I just looked at it, Okay, I just looked
it up, so I'm I'm not included.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
I want to say these two actresses ruled the aughts.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Go for it? Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well, what's your guess?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I vaguely saw it.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
It's like Kate Hudson and somebody that was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Actually a different woman than Tom Brady has been pictured with.
The latest is Sophia Virgara Oa. We know how Mancy
feels about that, But it looked like they were having
dinner at a very nice, fancy outdoor place, a lot
of other people around, and a guest is giving miss
Virgara a kiss on the forehead in the picture, but
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it appears that they are dining together. They're sitting side
by side, and it does appear to be a big
circular table and not necessarily a table for two. But
social media is going wild about it. So that is
apparently not the last you were going to hear about
Brady and Virgara. Meanwhile, in the fourth round at Wimbledon today,
nineteen seed Grigor Dimitro of Bulgaria goes up to two
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sets to none over one seed Yanick Center, but then
on the third set, Dimitrov sustained an apparent right pectoral injury.
Here's how it sounded on Radio Wimbledon.
Speaker 16 (32:09):
How can he swing that army? It really seems very
unlikely that you will. I know, he's having to retire.
He's come back on the courts water Shane. That is,
he's played so well. He's actually in tears coming back.
But your heart goes out to Grigo Timitrov.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It was the fifth consecutive Grand Slam. Yeah, that Dimitrov
had to retire from because of injury. Earlier, American Ben
Shelton advanced to the quarterfinals with a four set win
over Italy's Lorenzo Sonigo. NBA ESPN reported that Kyle Lowry's
agreed to a one year deal to return to the
Philadelphia seventy six ers, and the New York Knicks officially
announced the hiring of Mike Brown as their new head coach.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Dan and Monci, you know, i'd hate that picture. Ja
ja ja, that's my that's me doing my Sophia Vegara onto.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's pretty impressive that she's never got and better at
speaking English.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
It's impressive.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's part of the deal.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
She can't get better. She can't get better off the air.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'll bet you though that off the air she speaks
it better than the three of us combined.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's totally leaned into.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah, she has to practice because it's hard to not
get out of it like that's impressive.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
She has to practice at home and keep the accent.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, it's yeah, it's part of the deal.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah, well, yeah, you wouldn't find her as attractive.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Correct, Well, no, that's not what I meant. No, I
thought you were going to say something else, and I
already had the answer.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
It happens.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
I love how nervous Dan gets whenever we talk about
attractive women. Not as nervous as John Ramos used to get,
because we knew what was waiting at home for John.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But I have no We played the nearly wed game
once with John and we needed to clarify because it
was him and Mancy. We had to clarify that they
were not actually an item.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
We weren't.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
We're pretending, John pretending.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Yeah, but I will say that I have zero problems
saying this full throated pause. Uh, Sophia Ragara is dripping
wet hot, and I just realized that she's my age.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
She's my age.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah, she is dripping what hot? I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Speaking of John Ramos tenth anniversary of Kitty Boo being
killed by the neighborhood dog, So rip to Kitty Boo,
we miss you. John's cat got out and then the
neighborhood German shepherd and then got I know, thank.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
You for thank you for bringing that into our lives.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Anyos, I'm dan byer. John said to us on time,
can you can you just not talk about Kitty Boo again?
So I have not stopped talking about it. I see
John hasn't been at the network for john and a
half and we're still talking about it here on Fox
Sports right now. Brandon tweets in I hate those cheeters
from Houston to this day. I don't know why Manfred
didn't punish the players at all. Both the seventeen and
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twenty two titles should have been vacated.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Right, Brendan, I agree, Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I know that the Packers and Cowboys have had rivalries
in the past, but if you're like a current Cowboy fan,
you'd have to hate the Packers for the des Bryant
sure like non catch. If you're the Lions. There was
a call in the game prior to that Packers Cowboys
matchup that went against the Lions, so I would be like, oh,
you probably got to be pretty annoyed with the Dallas Cowboys.
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Those are the things that I was looking at in
all of this. Maybe not too as big of a
stage of a World Series or a Super Bowl, but
there are things that happen in certain games that always
stick with you and they never leave.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
She's Moncey Blagos, I'm Dan Byer. We will never leave.
As we continue here on Fox Sports, Radio in for
Cavino and Rich, hit Mancy up at Monte Bolognos. You
can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
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Speaker 10 (35:56):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
That All Star fever is starting to spread, and that's
not good thing, Manzi. Usually it's great. Oh yes, I've
got spring fever. All Star fever is something that is
so so different all in itself. We're talking All Star
fever here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, we do have summer fever. It's just All Star
fever is not as hot. It's a little cool.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
All Star fever is you know what. I'm not feeling
too well, and it's usually because of snubs.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Snubs, but do we really care?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
There's a dirty little secret behind all of that. Welcome in.
It is Fox Sports Radio in for Covino and Rich,
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. Today. Isaac Low
and Crown, Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith are here for us.
The All Star reserves. We knew the starters were announced,
but the All Star reserves, the rosters were filled out
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yesterday and something that is as old as time occurred yesterday,
and that is making a list of All Star snubs. Now,
this is where the fever is a bad thing. I
find it funny on how year after year there are
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always snubs. There are players on your team that you
think should be on the All Star squad but that
didn't make the squad, and you're ticked off because that
player was good for your team. And then you start
being that person and saying, well, how did this guy
make it? Why did this guy make it? Why does
every team have to be an All Star? It happens
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every single year, and we drive down that same road.
You know what else happens every single year? Manci, I'm
going to lean on the shoulders of Jason Stewart, our
executive producer. That makes the point, and Jason, I will
let you verbalize it, because these rosters aren't necessarily set
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in stone, are they? So what else happens every single
year when it comes to All Star rosters and it
comes to All Star snubs?
Speaker 9 (37:59):
So this is kind of the day that radio producers
and TV debate show producers could be really wazy, Like
they could go into their calendar in December and be like,
on July the seventh we could have a segment and
talk about the snubs. And by the way, the word
snub is not a great word to hear. It's like
a it's like a smegma. Is that the word that
everyone hates? And then there's a word that women, all
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women hate that ends in an st that I won't
say those words, but snub is such a bad word.
And like every single year, we could have a segment
where we're like, all right, well we're the biggest snubs.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I want to hear your calls.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
I'll call in be really upset about who doesn't make
the team, and then throughout the week, as injuries occur,
those same snubs that everyone was screaming about just make
the team and that's it. So it basically was just
a huge waste of air for radio people.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Outrage for the sake of outrage when it doesn't even matter.
And you heard Manti say it off the top, this
is meant no disrespect to the broadcast that is put
together by Fox, as the All Star Game will be
on Fox. I feel that it is rage for the
sake of rage, or something to be upset about because
it hurt your feelings. But how many people will actually
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boycott the All Star Game because their player wasn't in it,
or actually watch the All Star Game and care as
it's going on because their player isn't in the game.
Like if you think that Juan Soto should be in
the game, and let's say, to Jason's point, he gets
into the game as an injury replacement, you darn well
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sure you'd better be watching in the fifth inning when
he comes in as an injury replacement because you complained
the whole week about how Wan Soto should have been
an All Star, which, by the way, I think there's
a very good argument on why Wan Soda will be
an All Star. We'll get to that in a bit.
But it's never paid off. It's a reason to complain.
To Jason's point, it's a topic, it's low hanging f
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but it's also never paid off. Manzi where I don't
think people are sitting there tuning into the All Star
Game if their guy gets in when they were so
mad that they weren't there in the first place, completely
double talking.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Does this come because maybe we're holding on to baseball
being the last real All Star Game, and so we
want to care or pretend to care but in reality,
I will put on the All Star Game right, have
it on the background, But it's more of a matchup
that I'm looking for. I'm looking for a matchup that
I may not get to see a lot throughout the
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regular season, and then I'm moving on. But are we
holding on because we think it's the last real All
Star Game?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think that's a very interesting point, and I think
it could be a valid point. I also think it's
the only thing going on right now. As a sports
fan of teams that you care about, so football is
about to start, the NBA has ended, so you're passionate
about your baseball team. If you're in that mode, there
are a lot of people passionate. If you've seen the
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numbers from this past weekend, Major League Baseball put them
out magnificent Fourth of July weekend for baseball. So it's healthy.
But I think that there's there's not a lot to
distract people right now. It's summertime. Guess what, let's find
something to bother me. But I think that what you
said is what you said is real. I also think
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that the openness of the roster is real. So in
an NBA All Star Game, you have twelve spots. I
think for team I think you should have fifteen. I
think that that would be good for the game. There
are veterans that don't necessarily want to play. I'm not
trying to fix. It's not a fix in the All
Star conversation, but I think that it should be opened
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a little bit more, and I think that it would
help the product. I think that this is open enough.
Yes it is, and so to that aspect, I think
that there is there is some weight to being an
All Star, but it's also the only thing that's going
on right yeaw, you.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Hardly get to say, these All Star pitchers, we want
to see more than one inning of Paul Skeins, but
that's probably what you're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yes, So it's like.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
You're you're angry, but you're right. What else are you
gonna be angry about the way a mascot looks?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
No, you gotta be angry.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'm I'm looking at a list of snubs. I'm gonna
take this from SI dot com. Okay, a list of
what snubs?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Snubs?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Okay, snubs, yes.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Snubs, snubs.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Can you believe JP Crawford didn't make the All Star Game?
Short stuff? For the Seattle Mariners. Like this is I
know it sounds absurd. That's what we're doing here, That's
what we're doing. So if you're arguing about that it's ridiculous,
well JP stands for just pathetic. Jasony slashing two eighty five,
three eighty six and three eighty right now. I mean,
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like it's it's ridiculous. Joe Ryan of the Twins not
an All Star, absurd, Christopher Sanchez of the Phillies.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Absurd all Star.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
These are part of the list of.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
The Looks, not an All Star.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So the Nationals had an All Star snub. They are trocious.
They won like eight games this year. It's more than that,
but I get it, so CJ. Abrams. The point is,
this is what it's come down to, and I'm not
trying to disrespect any of those players and what they
have done this season. In fact, it would be a
great honor, I'm sure, for those players to be named
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an All Star. And that's a bit of the rub
with all of this, but it's fake outrage and it's
not real. The last name on the list is Juan
Soto of the New York Mets, and I'm sorry for
a game that's made for TV. Juan Soto deserves to
be at the All Star Game, and he deserves to
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be at the All Star Game for the same reason
that Clayton Kershaw is at the All Star Game, because
we want to see Clayton Kershaw there, likely for the
last time. They did this with with Miguel Cabrera and
putting him as a veteran to the All Star team.
This is expanding the All Star roster. This is a
way of doing it. But when you talk about the
stories that have happened in Major League Baseball so far
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in the first half of the season, sorry, Wan Soto
has been a part of that discussion. And if his
numbers are even in the neighborhood and being an All Star,
you want to see Juan Soto. He's on a new team,
he's back to being in the National League. All of
that factors in. Like, I do think that that is
a snub for the reason that you want to make
the game as appealing as it is. And it's no
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disrespect to someone like JP Crawford. There's none of that
CJ Abrams, no disrespect meant towards those players. But Sodo
moves the needle in a way that those players don't.
And that's why when you're talking about a made for
TV event, that's what that's what he does, That's what
this does. Soda should have been an All Star absolutely.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
How much money is he making?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, the biggest contract
he has to be in the All Star Game. It's
kind of silly that they didn't make that decision ahead
of time. Maybe they wanted this to be the real
snub while everybody else, like you said, there's a lot
of players that could have, should have, would have. You know,
there's a lot of good talent out there, but like
Jan Sodo, not being in the initial list is kind
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of just like you dropped the big ball here. You
have to have him out there, and his numbers are
in the ballpark. He started off slow, and that was
the big discussion at all. He misses the Yankees, but
those numbers, I look, they're in the ballpark. He should
be there. He's he's the highest paid player in baseball
right now, get out there, put him in the All
Star Game.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Don't make this be a story when it's not, especially
because Jason said it.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
There's gonna be an injury or something, and he's gonna
be the first one they put into replace.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
There's always gonna be someone that's left out, always, whether
you know the NCAA tournament, the team that's you know,
not number sixty nine or number seventy, they didn't make
the field of sixty eight. In this case, somebody's going
to be left out. I'm not saying Wan Soda should
replace someone. Just make sure that Wan SODA's on the team,
just like you made sure that Clayton Kershaw is on
the team this year, just like you have Miguel Cabrera
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being on the team a year or two ago. All
of that is completely understood and accepted and honestly welcomed.
And I think if you expanded it, I've been I've
thought Major League Baseball should do this. Bonzie Jason and
I have been together long enough that he's heard this
argument before. Last year we were lucky enough that Paul
Skeens was put on the All Star team and ended
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up getting the start in the All Star Game. We
all wanted to watch Paul Skeins pitch in that first inning.
The year prior, Ellie de la Cruz was taking over
Major League Baseball, and in highlight after highlight after highlight,
was his time in the big leagues all star worthy?
Probably not. Were the numbers that he was putting up.
Did they measure with the top All Stars? Maybe not
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at that point, but he was talked about top five
player in the game for those two months or a
month and a half that he was there. What's the
problem with adding a young star to each of these rosters?
To put it in the game that would actually probably
want to play. It also allows you to have a
future star instead of having a Future Stars game on
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the Sunday when there's actual games going on at that ballpark.
Put a future star, a guy that's in the big
leagues as a possible future All Star, and make them
a part of that roster. It can only help your
brand that you're cultivating future stars for the team. If
they're doing it for the old guys, they should figure
out a way to do it for the young guys
as well.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
You couldn't have said it better because it's like, this
is one of those moments or one of these events
where you lean into the popularity side of it. It
is a popularity yes, yes, lean into that this is
the time to do it. This is the All Star Game.
We're not talking about, you know, an award at the
end of the season where you know it's one person here.
You should absolutely have the guys that are popular and
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bringing eyes to the sport.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
They dropped the ball with Elie de la Cruz. I
was here with you when you were talking about that
a year ago.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
And they're dropping the ball with Juan Soto again, unless
you wanted this to be the topic of conversation when
in reality, it's a bad look on baseball.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
It's a bad look on how you're handling things.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And I think monestly they've opened the door or it's
been opened for so long because of the rule that
every team has been an All Star or it needs
an All Star. Because you lay out that rule right there,
that then tells me you kind of have I'm not
carte blanche, but you have the ability to make the
rosters like they should be. Realistically, if you didn't do
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this in the National League, you'd have Phillies, Mets, Cubs
and Dodgers and a few Giants and Padre sprinkled in
like that's what it would be, and half the league
would be washed out. I don't know if that's good.
I don't know if that's bad, but that's what it is.
But you have flexibility in doing this because you're already saying,
we're making these guys an All Star. Now there's that
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lesson the label of All Star. I don't think one bit.
I don't think that it does. I think that it's
revered by your home team. But it does tell me
that there are pieces that you can move. And honestly,
there are guys who are in this All Star Game
that probably want to have one at bat and be
good with it. Now, it would give us something to
complain after the All Star Game. But if you have
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other guys to play those spots, I don't see how
it could be a bad thing.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
It can't be a bad thing. That's why it's so
interesting that they haven't done this.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Like you just said, there's players who are just gonna
get one at bat, and there's others that fans tune
in and there's still probably.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
Only going to get one at bat, and that should
also change.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
I understand you want to bring in all of these pictures,
but the ones that people really want to watch, you
got to keep them in there longer than an inning
and that's not gonna happen because of the size of
this roster for the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, I you know what, I can get on board
with that. I'm trying to expand and saying like, maybe
these guys would play more. But if you're saying for
the product, I wouldn't necessarily hate it. I think some
of these guys, you take a young star, like, just like,
how would Elie de la Cruz do over that forty
eighth to seventy two hours being in the same line
locker room with Baseball's best, right, Like, I think that
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there's there's a valuable piece in that as well. So
you're going in a different direction than I am. But
I don't. I don't hate yours at all.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
But you make a point, and I'm just like, here,
I'm adding to it in the sense of, like, you
have so many people on your roster, why not add
another one? Now, if you're not going to have that
many people on the roster, then you're able to keep these.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
Guys out for a lot longer, which is really what
a lot of people want.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
But you already have such a big roster, you might
as well add the popular one.
Speaker 9 (50:28):
Sure, Jason Stewart, it feels like your idea Dan might
come from like the rights holders, right, the executives of
Fox or ESPN, whoever's carrying the game, would choose someone
who moves the needle, and you promoted as such, this
is our either young player that moves the needle or
who's the center fielder for the for the A's that
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seems to make a circus catch once a week. Oh yeah,
and it's like a chance to not only announce that
they're included in the game, but to promote someone that
is young and up and coming. Denzel Club Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. And also, by the way, Joe Ryan being
on the snub list, I would argue that Joe Ryan's
like immediate family doesn't need to see him at the
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Alstro game. That's how boring. Joe Ryan as a pitcher
is as boring as his name, Joe Ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
It's about it's about stars. It is old and new
and current, and that's what I think is lost in
all of this. To his point, I don't want to
speak for Joe Ryan's family. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
But if you're trying to bring in people and trying
to bring in more eyes. And I'll tell you what,
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if Denzel Clark was added to this roster as a
young star, I would have been able to say Denzel
Clark right at that point. Now we've seen the catch.
We've seen the catch is the ace stink right now,
it's not necessarily on the forefront of our mind. But
you put him in an All Star game, he robs
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someone of a home run. We're talking about Denzel Clark's
twenty twenty five home run robbing in Atlanta as an
All Star highlight throughout the years. So I think that
ends up paying all for It helps at least throughout
the season for the A's in that part, to add
another young name, bring somebody out to the ballpark. There's
no negatives in any of this. It just and when
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you've already set out the rules to be what they are,
to try to appease every certain fan base, I think
there's other ways that you can do it instead of
maybe turning them off if they're not happy with the snubs.
Speaker 6 (52:34):
It just seems like a missed opportunity. You know who
are they.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
The WNBA, Oh, Moncey Blagos hit it off at Monzi Bolognos.
You can find me at dan Byer on Fox All
Star Game a week from tomorrow in Atlanta. You will
see it on Fox Home Run Derby a week from
tonight as well as the bats will line up. Yes,
the first half of the Major League Baseball season soon
(53:00):
coming to a close. Again, hit Moncy up at monci
Bolano so you can find me at dan Byer on Fox.
Mancy mentioned the WNBA, and we have more insight now
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
Hey, Happy Monday to you. You made it through the
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Dan absolutely not no Monday Blues whatsoever. She is Monty Belanos.
I'm Dan Byert, no Cavino and Rich because the guys
were doing the Dan Patrick Show earlier today, so that's
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why we are in their place. Isaac lowin gron Is
at the news desk where I usually am. Hello, Isaac,
Great to see.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You, Great to see you, and you too.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Moncey Hey, Papa Bear, Ryan Smith our technical producer, Hello,
and Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Hello.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Wel come man. On a Monday. It is Fox Sports
Radio a Monday where the Houston Astros got out the
brooms and sweeping the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
Wait this, I didn't sign up for this you did
sign up for this, sign this conversation.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Inc. The Astros go to Dodgers Stadium, win not one,
not two, but three games in a row, leave LA
with the perfect Ledger. But that's not what it's all about.
There's all Star games to talk about, and we will
and we'll talk about what's happening in the NBA. A
trade today that Monzi can't wait to talk about. But
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the Astros go and sweep the Dodgers. But it had
nothing to do with the win on Friday, the win
on Saturday, or the win on Sunday. The win on
Friday was pretty ridiculous eighteen to one.
Speaker 6 (01:48):
Hey, I think that was the final score.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
But throughout the weekend this was an opportunity, one that
our own Jason Stewart even got to take in himself
on Sunday. Because it's the ongoing rivalry. That isn't a rivalry.
This isn't wondering if the Padres are the Dodgers' rival,
This isn't are the Vikings the Packers rival that's this
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is none of that. This is the Dodgers hate the Astros,
and from now on, from from twenty seventeen until now on,
they will always hate the Houston Astros. That's what this
weekend was about, Moncie.
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Yes, it was about that because do you remember what
happened in twenty seventeen, Dan, Do.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
We need Astros world champs?
Speaker 6 (02:32):
So rude?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
So rude?
Speaker 6 (02:34):
The cheating Astros.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Yes, they cheated against the Yankees, cheated on the way
to beating the Dodgers and winning the World Series. And
cheaters never gonna forget, never get, always gonna be cheaters, cheaters,
once cheaters forever. I have heard that when it comes to.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Men and women, ones a cheat always achieved.
Speaker 6 (02:52):
Exactly do you believe in that? I?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
You know, I completely do.
Speaker 6 (02:58):
It's hard to not right one, I just want to
believe people can.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Believe, but they can't. I complete that once a cheater
are always a cheater. Now, at some point it's gonna stop,
But once a cheat are always a cheater. And I
feel that that thought process, not that the Astros are
gonna cheat again, but it's apropos in this situation because
the Astros are the Astros, and the Dodgers will always
think that the Astros are cheaters.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
From what you laid out, absolutely absolutely, it's hard to
pretend like that's not a sore subject that whenever it
comes up, I'm like, ugh, especially because I think with Kershaw.
I do think the Kershaw slander derives a lot from
twenty seventeen, Like if we would have won the Kershaw
playoff slander maybe would not be what it is today.
And he had a great game one in twenty seventeen
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against the Astros, but he gets such slander, and I
throw it back to if that wouldn't have happened, Kershaw
wouldn't be hated as much, or would not that he
is loved.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
But you know what I'm talking about. Everyone always brings
up playoff Kershaw.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Nothing has been changed. The Astros are still World Series champions.
Was not vague cadd Jason Stewart was there on Sunday.
If you missed any of Jason Stewart at Dodger Stadium,
I believe we have some of that as well.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for the number of
pitches you saw coming to the t twenty seventeen postseason?
Speaker 8 (04:16):
Huh?
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Is that what twenty seven stamps for?
Speaker 6 (04:21):
Answer me?
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Are you still waiting on that answer? Jason Stewart?
Speaker 9 (04:25):
Yeah, he never answered me.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's odd.
Speaker 9 (04:27):
I will say this, he did ground out or fly
out and that one at bat, So I'm guessing I
rattled him for one at bat. Now the ninth inning,
when he took a pitch a fastball over the leftfield fence,
I guess he wasn't rattled anymore.
Speaker 6 (04:42):
Yeah, no, he tends to will not get rattled.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Will you always hate the Astros?
Speaker 9 (04:47):
I will, And I don't even know if it's the
Astro's fault, And I'll blame Rob Manfred. Remember if you
go back eight years, Rob Manfred gave players complete immunity
for telling the story, so not one player has ever
suffered any punishment for it. And then when Altuve himself
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had a chance to be contrite and explain what he did,
and I won't blame him for this English second language,
he didn't come off as either contrite or apologetic. So
it just kind of left the Dodgers with a bad
taste in their mouth. Nobody was punished, the title was
not cleared, and Altuve came off as kind of this
unapo apologized jerk. So I think I blame Manfred first
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and foremost, and then I blame the Astros.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
See that it's funny you say that because I am
actually in a similar spot with my fandom with the Seahawks.
The Seahawks have rivals. They had rivals in the AFC
West Broncos Raiders, but they moved to the NFC West,
and really it's the Niners and Rams that's that's their
their rivals right now. But I will never, as a
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lifelong Seahawks fan ever cheer for the Pittsburgh Steelers again.
And it's not their fault technically that they got all
the calls in Super Bowl forty, but it kind of
is because they were the Pittsburgh Steelers. It was eighty
five percent Steeler fans at Ford Field for Super Bowl forty.
It's everything that comes with the Pittsburgh Steelers. And while
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the officiating crew was awful and even admitted as much
after the Super Bowl, I will never get over that
game and never get over even when the Seahawks won
Super Bowl forty eight. It wasn't a o that monkey's
off the back from super Bowl forty like it's still there.
They could have had two Super Bowl championships, but I
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will never cheer for the Pittsburgh Steelers for that reason.
And while you want to blame Rob Manfred I could
blame Bill Levy, the official in that game, and all
of the referee or the other officials in that contest,
but it's easier to take it out of the Pittsburgh Steelers, absolutely,
and they were less listen than the Houston Astros were.
(07:01):
And it's been now going on twenty years that that
game was played, So I get it, and I feel
that there's rivals for every team in sports, but there
are unintended rivals that I think make things more interesting.
So Astros Dodgers this weekend super interesting because of that
unintended rivalry.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
I didn't agree with you more and I hear what
you're saying, Jason, but I'm not gonna lie. I think
my hatred will stay for the Astros even once Hosel
Tuba leaves.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
But you're right, Hoseel tub right now. Enemy number one
will be until the end of time.
Speaker 5 (07:35):
But it will be the Astros for as long I
don't even know when. And it does partially have to
do with the fact that nothing was done. That's super
super annoying. Nothing was done about that, and not even
Dodger vans and Yege fans should be mad and everybody
else who they cheated along the way with but like
baseball fans should be mad that Manfred did nothing about it.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Nothing, they should be, but they're not. That's your point.
It's only us and so then as a Dodger fan,
I and I don't want to put words in your mouth,
but I would believe like one of the comforting things
about being a Seahawk fan is with that game, everybody
also thinks that that they got screwed, except for the Steelers.
But to your case, and if you working with the
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Dodgers and Jason being a fan, I'll call you a
fan as well. Yeah, you being a fan of the Dodgers,
is nobody else has your back anymore because they're over it. Yes,
they didn't lose the World Series because of that. Even
if cheating was going on in the game against the
White Sox with a middle reliever, White Sox don't care anymore.
They're not booing the I mean they're booing their own team.
They don't have to boo the Astros. It's now only
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your battle. And that's what's also got to make it
doubly frustrating.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
You're not wrong, You're not wrong when people are so
overt except us.
Speaker 9 (08:50):
And the whole L two a thing, by the way,
And I was thinking about this yesterday as I was
heckling him, and I had a good time doing that.
I'm fifty two years old and I was heckling a ballplayer.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Now.
Speaker 9 (09:01):
The thing that pisses me off most is how good
he is. Yes, the fact that he shows up almost
every park, especially the Dodgers, and he performs as well.
He's gonna walk off the field and as soon as
he can, he's gonna walk in into Cooperstown. He's a
really good player. And if he wasn't as good, it
wouldn't hurt as much.
Speaker 6 (09:21):
You know, Yes, I really agree with you.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
When when a minor leaguer is busted for steroids, I
get it. They're trying to make the big leagues. In
a way, it's a Barry Bond sort of thing. Why
did Bonds need to do all this stuff? He was
already amazing as he was. When Brady Anderson does it,
or Rafael palm Merrow trying to get to that next level,
even Sammy Sosa, why do you do it? Why did
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you need to do it? Barry Bonds is the poster
child of that. Is L two Bay is great but
when you say, like you would have been a Hall
of Famer if you didn't do all of that stuff,
but you didn't help yourself, it's completely frustrating.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
Very and Barry Bombs didn't even win at least Hotel Too,
but one one after the cheating he gets and then
he won another one. Yes, it's true, I know that,
but you know, think about the people who cheated and
it didn't even get them a world series.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
I want to go to Papa Bear for a second,
and I want to hear from you as well. Eight
seven seven Fox eight seven seven nine six six three
six nine Ryan Smith. Yeah, he does, and you should too,
by the way, not okay, I know you're a Raiders fan.
And I said this to Mancy prior to the show.
I go, I know who Ryan Smith hates. I know
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his unintended rival of the Raiders. Because it's not the Broncos,
it's not the Chargers, it's not the Chiefs. I know
who your unintended rivalry. Sure, I think so you know who?
I said, yes, yes, yes, who is it? The Patriots? Yes?
Nailed it? Ye yes, And that's because of the.
Speaker 7 (10:57):
Tuck rule, the cheating, Yes, cheating and cheating yes, cheating.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
So whenever the Patriots did well, it brought you back
to that point and the tuck rule, And they did
well a lot, they won a lot, and it all
went back to that point. We're not alone in here.
You could tweet Mancy at Monzi, millennials, hit me up
at Dan Byer on Fox, But who is your unintended rival?
(11:22):
Because they are all across sports? In fact, talking about
the Seahawks, I feel like the Packers had a problem
with the Seahawks at one time because of the fail
mary where when they had the replacement reps and they
called a touchdown on what was clearly an interception that
should have ended the game, but because of the chaos
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that it was, there was nothing that they could do
to overturn it. Like I felt like that added to
the rivalry. There were connections between the two organizations previously,
but I felt like that was one. I don't know
if there are others that they feel, but I felt
like it was that way. But I know this is
the case throughout sports. Is there as is the unintended rival.
The ones are usually natural because they're geographic or you've
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played for a long time, but it's the ones that
are outside outside of that realm. In college football, Oregon
in Oklahoma had like a rivalry at one point, and
this was years back, dating the stuff that happened in
their games, and all of a sudden, the Ducks are
hating the Sooners and the Sooners are hating the Ducks.
It's an interesting phenomenon because it's a bit random, but
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they're obviously all based on for a certain reason. But
I know that everyone's sports teams, you have a unintended
rival if you will.
Speaker 5 (12:35):
You know, for a while, as a Clipper fan, I
hated the Memphis Grizzlies. There was a while where it
was back and forth between us and Zach Randolph always
went off against us.
Speaker 6 (12:46):
But that one has.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
Died because the Clippers don't have a rival like the Lakers.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
But it's like we don't have the Glippers.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Don't have a ride or I'll tell you who. I thought. Well,
for a while, it was Golden State before we took off,
like with Sure, before they started winning titles. Yeah, there
was something there that they had with them in the.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Warriors, Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
I go back more of the I think it was
the Memphis Grizzlies and I was always like I don't
want to see them ever again.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
I get that the Grizzlies have kind of had one
with Minnesota. I mean, same conference as well. Maybe not
as random, but they had gone back and forth. So
that's that's what we want to hear from you. The
phone lines are starting the line up eight seven seven
nine nine one fox eight seven seven nine nine to
six six three sixty nine. I felt that the Raiders
one was appropriate, but I also it's tough to say
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the Steelers from the immaculate reception for what they had
in the nineteen seventies, like that stuff ends up moving on.
I'll tell you another one. Speaking of moving I thought
that whenever the Colts played the Ravens that it would
be a rivalry game because the Ravens were their fans
were mad that the Colts left Baltimore in the early eighties.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
That's a good one.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
You'd think that was the case. I asked my buddy
Jerry Coleman in Baltimore one time. I said, what's what's
it like? What's it what's the feeling of when the
Colts come back to Baltimore Because and now it's been
forty years. When I asked him it was probably about
thirty thirty five years, and he said once the Ravens
won their first Super Bowl over the Giants in Super
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Bowl thirty five, that went away, so that he raced
it like they got they got the win, they got
their own championship. The Colts hadn't won one at that time.
It made everything good. And now the Colts have been
an indie longer than they were in Baltimore, I think,
considering what we've gotten the Ravens even for that matter
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as well, or at least the timeline is closed. But
the point is is that that's what it took for Baltimore
to kind of move on from the Colts and to
really just be like, all right, it's normal. But I
don't there's not going to be a moving on for
me at any point. I don't know if there will
be for the Dodgers, and I don't know if there
will be for the Raiders.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
The Dodgers, I think winning obviously, if you win a
World Series Dodgers against the Astros, that might, yeah, alleviate.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
A lot of it.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You'll never get it back though, never.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
Gonna get it back, but it would alleviate a lot
of it.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
Sure, Winning alleviates, Yes, it does, it does exactly.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
It absolutely does. She's Batzi Belanio. So I'm Dan Byer
in for Cavino and Rich Here on Fox Sports Radio,
Ryan Smith had the Raiders the Patriots. As a Raiders fan. Jason, obviously,
as the Dodger fan, hates the Houston Astros. As you
heard him yelling at jose Lte over the weekend. That
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is how you heckle, Isaac Glowing Kron. Are you even
a fan of any team to have an unintended rival?
Speaker 1 (15:43):
It's actually much worse and much unprofessional than that. When
I was a kid, I was obsessed with the La
Kings hockey team. They make the Standley Cup Final for
the first time ever in nineteen ninety three.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
There's the curve stick incident.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
But besides that, Patrick Waugh of the Montreal All Canadians
completely plays out of his mind, shuts them down and
just crushes me as a child. Years later, as a reporter,
I'm covering the NHL All Star Game and there he
is the man who caused me such pain as an
innocent youth, Patrick Waugh, and I started staring at him,
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I started giving him the evil eye, and it got
to the point where he turned and looked at me,
and he couldn't have been nicer. He said, hey, buddy,
here are you okay? And I'm like, oh, I suddenly
came back to professional Isaac and I was like yeah,
but I was like so devastated by that man that
I kind of find myself kind of crossing the line there,
(16:45):
to be honest with you.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
Also, by the way, saved by the Bell.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Growing up, Zach and Kelly were this thing and they
got broken up by this guy Jeff and after Patrick Muldoon.
I saw Patrick Muldoon at a Laker game one night
just as a fan, and the same thing happened.
Speaker 4 (17:02):
I couldn't separate, you know.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
Reality production Zach and Gallant.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
And then he cheated on Kelly with that blonde right,
couldn't stand her.
Speaker 2 (17:11):
Yes, the guy was smooth though he was.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
He was once a cheat, always always a cheat.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
Jesse's in Indiana joining us on Cavino and Rich Jesse,
Welcome in Happy Monday.
Speaker 10 (17:25):
How are you, hey, how's it going?
Speaker 11 (17:27):
Happy Monday to you all?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Thanks?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
All right? Who who do you hate that you maybe
shouldn't hate, but you have to hate for a reason.
Speaker 11 (17:35):
So minds the weird one. I'm a big soccer guy.
I'm in I'm in southern Indiana close to Ticket Tucky,
So I'm a Louisville City fan. Uh and the second
division of US soccer and the team I absolutely hate
plays and doesn't even play in our division but one Knoxville.
I can never cheer for them. We played them in
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a preseason game and they broke our captain's life. I
played for two years. He's played once in the last
two years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Oh yeah, no, hate them forever done, absolutely done.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Yeah, even at that level, Like you're just like, there's
something dirty, dirty about it. Stu's in Vegas a Raiders fan?
Or does he hate the Raiders. We're about to find out, Stu.
Welcome to Camino and.
Speaker 10 (18:20):
Ra How we doing, guys?
Speaker 11 (18:22):
I hate the Raiders just because I always hated. I
don't I'm just tired of hearing about the Tuck.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, Ryan Smith not a not a fan, Stu, who
are you a fan of?
Speaker 10 (18:38):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Jeezu you you? Oh you dropped them Trump stew has disappeared.
Trump propaganda. Stop the propaganda.
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Convenient convenient there, Ryan.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I love Ah. He hates the Raiders because he hates
them talking about them.
Speaker 6 (18:58):
That's so interesting.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
Yes, and he's a Vegas Yeah, he probably hears it
all the time.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Tom's in Florida, Tom welcome.
Speaker 10 (19:07):
Yeah, Hi guys, Mine is I have an ultimate hatred
of Dan Quinn and Kyle Shanahan as a Falcons fan
all my life. Just run the damn ball against the Patriots,
so I cheer gets whoever they're coaching, just running the ball.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
So you hate the Commanders and forty nine ers forty
nine ers, Oh my, yeah, I get it. I honestly
think they hated each other. No, they didn't hate each other,
they just weren't on the same page. He should be
more mad at Kyle Shanahan than Dan Quinn though.
Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
So if he's gonna hate a team, he should hate
the forty nine Ers more so than the Commanders.
Speaker 5 (19:45):
Sure, but wherever Kyle Shanahan, if he were to move again,
he's gonna hate that team.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Yes, that is steady.
Speaker 6 (19:50):
It's more of him. But right now, as the forty.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Nine Ers, I would say seventy five Shanahan for what
happened twenty five Quinn in that spot. There you go,
So Shanahan would say seventy five percent of the reason
why we're in this game is because of me. But
that's beside the point. It's what happened in Super Bowl
fifty one. Spencer's in La Spencer, what gift do you have?
Speaker 12 (20:11):
So I'm a Rams fan and I have a friend
who's a Saints fan, and after that twenty seventeen NFC
Championship game, my friend, every time he sees me is
we would have won that Super Bowl if not for
that passing span. Ever since that game, he just hates
the Rams, And I think the same could probably be
said for every Saints fan.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
I agree with that there I would if I'm a
Saints fan.
Speaker 5 (20:35):
Bri Brie I know Brianna Mirel yet, yes, was at
the update desk yesterday, that's right.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Producer here at Fox Sports Radio. She is a Saints fan.
I I can get on board with that.
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Yeah, totally makes sense.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
And they were also in the same division at one time,
which is actually the funny because the Falcons caller called
in Falcons and forty nine Ers were in the same
division a long time ago, NFC West. But there was
a there could have been a rivalry there if you
wanted to. But I would, I would. I if I'm
a Saints fan. I'm never getting over that pass interference call.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Probably not. You probably dream about it now.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Think of that time seven because that's what happened in
the Super Bowl to the Seahawks, because there were like
seven calls that they got screwed on against Pittsburgh. Because
Jerome Bettis is playing his last game. All right, Mike's
in Saint Paul, Mike, Welcome into Fox Sports Radio. Mike.
(21:31):
All right there, I think. Do we have Mike. No,
we don't have Mike.
Speaker 13 (21:34):
Mike.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
That's all right. We'll get to Mike. A lot of
great recommendations. We'll get more again. Hit Mancy up at
Moncy Blanos. You can find me at Dan Byer on Fox.
We are in for Cavino and Rich today. This all
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patiently waiting to talk about the huge deal that happened
in the NBA today about the Los Angeles or with
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the Los Angeles.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
Clippers joining the finals.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
I wore black for the funeral that I thought it was.
But Moncey is all game for it. She's down, yeah,
a Manzi. The leopard is that leopard print? What is
that tiger cheetah?
Speaker 5 (22:30):
All of it?
Speaker 2 (22:31):
All right, all of it. The Liam Cohen era with
the Jaguars is here, and Manzi's bringing it in. She's
Monzi Milanios. I'm Dan Buyer in for Covino and Rich
here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (22:40):
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Speaker 6 (22:50):
Nicely done there, Ryan Smith, what's up everybody? Happy Monday?
Speaker 5 (22:53):
Thanks for tuning in to Cavino and Rich on Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
The guys were out.
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Because they were in earlier to day for the Dan
Patrick Show. I am Anti Bilanas alongside Dan Byer, and
we're talking about the teams that you hate, not because
they're your rival, but maybe because of something else, like
the cheating Houston Astros from twenty seventeen.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Ten, or like the Atlanta Falcons coaching staff in Super
Bowl fifty one. Like it is specific, like there is
really individual people that people are talking about when it comes.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
To their hates exactly.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And we are taking callers. So let's go to Eric
in North Carolina. Eric, who do you hate?
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Let us know why?
Speaker 14 (23:33):
All right, here we go two thousand and one Super
Bowl Panthers Patriots. If John Casey does not kick that
ball out of bounds, does Tom Brady ever exist? And
do the Panthers finally have a Super Bowl?
Speaker 10 (23:44):
Oh?
Speaker 15 (23:44):
Wow, thank you?
Speaker 2 (23:48):
So poor guy didn't have a lot to kick in.
That game was a high score, one of the better
Super Bowls that we had. But yeah, I gave the
Patriots the field position and then Adam Vintteri becomes the
the hero. I get it. I get like, there's unfortunately
this is the deal. Like Bill Buckner, you know, may
(24:08):
you rest in peace, But for so long was the
villain to Red Sox fans because of the air. Maybe
not all, but to some there are people who stand out.
I love the team aspect of it where it's just
random in terms of but the randomness may have happened
in a big spot, you like in the super Bowl
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with the Seahawks and Steelers. It don't play every year,
play every four years, but when they play, there's something
to me that really still bothers me. No regular season
win is going to take over it. I said that
even winning in Super Bowl forty eight did not make
things feel better. I know you feel otherwise than others
feel that way, but just any old Like if the
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Seahawks were to beat the Steelers, I guess in a
super Bowl, maybe that would help, but it still wouldn't
undo the how they were wronged.
Speaker 5 (24:59):
Super It wouldn't undo, but it would absolutely alleviate. Johnny
Papa's I think is how you say it tweeted at
me and said thanks for tweeting, thanks for the follow up.
Set can confirm that beating the rival changes everything.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
Signed the two thousand and four Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
Like you won't completely forget it, but it absolutely alleviates it.
Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yes, and how they did it was yes, and like
if they would have won five games, it wouldn't have
had the same effect.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Sure, yes, all of.
Speaker 5 (25:28):
That would matter, but no even going you know, I
can imagine just walk off home run against the Astros
in Game seven of a World Series.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
Oh, that would be so epic. That'd be so epic.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Bill's in Florida, Bill, Welcome to Convino and Rich.
Speaker 8 (25:42):
Hey guys, I got a reverse hatred story. Back in
the day, I hated Tommy Disorder. I was a big
Braves fan and the Sorda was always beating the Braves
back then. Well, anyway, like a year later after that,
I decided to go to the spring training game when
the Astra was played in Outfielder County. So I bought
takeos four rows up right behind Lasorda and Ron Karanaski. Well,
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ale Hangel, Paine's wife and little boy, probably about five
or six at a time, came walking up and sat
down right in front of me. Well, Lesorta turned around,
saw her, and he was the nicest guy to them
the whole game. I mean, it was just totally changed
my perception of Tommy Lasorda.
Speaker 2 (26:25):
Those moments actually are pretty cool.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
So he's telling me that I'm gonna meet like Hosel
tuve Ata in line at Chipotle, and I'm gonna be like, man,
you are awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:34):
They we're gonna speak in Spanish and.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Then you're gonna go up to the register and you're
gonna find out that he bought your Chipotle for.
Speaker 5 (26:38):
You, right, all of the things, all of that, and
left me a gift card for it. But that is
a great story, and Tommy Losorta has tons of those,
so no surprise there.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
Speaking of the Dodgers, Gill's in Virginia.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
Yeah, let's go to Gil in Virginia, who hates Dodgers fans. Hi, Gil,
thanks for calling into Cavino and Rich.
Speaker 15 (27:00):
Hello, Moncy why and a long time Astros fan and
you know who else? In twenty seventeen got fined for
cheating the Boston Red Sox. But I don't hear any
of you Dodgers fans bringing them up. You know why,
because they didn't beat you. So the only two the
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only differences between those two teams and every other team
in MLB is they got caught. Every team cheats, Every
team cheats, so y'all can get off your high Hoss.
Speaker 7 (27:35):
Who was the manager of the Red Sox when they
won in the two thousand and four, Yeah, I wasn't.
I could have swore he used to play for the Astros. Terry,
it was Terry Frankel. I'm not talking about that one.
I'm talking about the other one when they beat the
the Dodgers.
Speaker 2 (27:54):
Yeah, Denny Korr used to play for the Astros.
Speaker 7 (27:57):
Huh.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
That's crazy how that works.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
There was Young Overlaps.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
There's some Apple Watch stuff as well involved. As he said,
the facts were maybe misconstrued.
Speaker 9 (28:07):
Am I Am I wrong on this? So Gil, thanks
for listening. Yeah, thanks for You're a little foggy on
the details.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Right.
Speaker 9 (28:13):
So, twenty seventeen, the Astros were convicted of cheating. Okay,
Alex Cora was a coach on that Astros team who
went to the Red Sox in twenty eighteen and started
pulling the same shenanigans with the Red Sox the next year.
Who did the who the Red Sox beating the World
Series Dodgers? The Dodgers. Alex Cora got suspended what a year? Yes,
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So I think those are the details, right? Am I
am I wrong on any of that?
Speaker 2 (28:40):
I think the details are everybody cheats and that was
actually supposed to be Arim song instead of everybody hurts.
Speaker 6 (28:48):
But everybody cheats. Stop it, stop it.
Speaker 2 (28:51):
Jeffreys in Arizona. I think he's going to the college
game with this one. Jeffrey, Welcome in Hell.
Speaker 13 (28:58):
Actually go by the new turf. But I used to
be tussy Toro the mascot, so I'm going outside the box.
I despise Oklahoma State's mascot, the ugliest mascot ever, the
Cowboys and also my favorite, even though my favorite pet
part boxer Partnerbrador Duke. I cannot stand the Duke and
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the dookies.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Why because of the antics of the mascots? Is that
why the well, no, the appearance. Okay, right, I think
we're starting to we're starting to, you know, veer off,
We're starting We're going straight.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
Up because not for an incident or a moment or
a series.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
I hate my husband, you know, like thanks Joan, Joan
and des Moines. No, don't even bother calling. We know
it's not working out. You know who I love Isaac Lohink.
Let's go to him for the latest. What's happening today?
We mascots are being brought into it. Why do you
hate the Duke mascot just because the way he looks.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
And doesn't everybody speaking of love. I'm hunched over deep
into research about something that is just beginning to trend,
and that is a photograph of legendary NFL quarterback Tom
Brady appearing to have dinner with a famous woman and
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that picture is starting to really really trend and go viral. Sidney,
I was actually gonna ask you to guess it's actually
a different woman than Sidney Sweeney.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Manca, you want to take a shot at it?
Speaker 6 (30:45):
What exactly what are they doing? Something soap again?
Speaker 4 (30:48):
Well, they appear to be having dinner, which I'll get to.
Speaker 1 (30:51):
It's a it's a photograph that is taking social media
by storm right now.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
Any guesses on who the ladies?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Well, I just looked at it, Okay, I just looked
it up, so I'm I'm not included.
Speaker 9 (31:03):
I want to say these two actresses ruled the aughts.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
Go for it? Is that fair?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Well, what's your guess?
Speaker 2 (31:11):
I vaguely saw it.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
It's like Kate Hudson and somebody that was.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
Actually a different woman than Tom Brady has been pictured with.
The latest is Sophia Virgara Oa. We know how Mancy
feels about that, But it looked like they were having
dinner at a very nice, fancy outdoor place, a lot
of other people around, and a guest is giving miss
Virgara a kiss on the forehead in the picture, but
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it appears that they are dining together. They're sitting side
by side, and it does appear to be a big
circular table and not necessarily a table for two. But
social media is going wild about it. So that is
apparently not the last you were going to hear about
Brady and Virgara. Meanwhile, in the fourth round at Wimbledon today,
nineteen seed Grigor Dimitro of Bulgaria goes up to two
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sets to none over one seed Yanick Center, but then
on the third set, Dimitrov sustained an apparent right pectoral injury.
Here's how it sounded on Radio Wimbledon.
Speaker 16 (32:09):
How can he swing that army? It really seems very
unlikely that you will. I know, he's having to retire.
He's come back on the courts water Shane. That is,
he's played so well. He's actually in tears coming back.
But your heart goes out to Grigo Timitrov.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It was the fifth consecutive Grand Slam. Yeah, that Dimitrov
had to retire from because of injury. Earlier, American Ben
Shelton advanced to the quarterfinals with a four set win
over Italy's Lorenzo Sonigo. NBA ESPN reported that Kyle Lowry's
agreed to a one year deal to return to the
Philadelphia seventy six ers, and the New York Knicks officially
announced the hiring of Mike Brown as their new head coach.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
Dan and Monci, you know, i'd hate that picture. Ja
ja ja, that's my that's me doing my Sophia Vegara onto.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
It's pretty impressive that she's never got and better at
speaking English.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
It's impressive.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
That's part of the deal.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
She can't get better. She can't get better off the air.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I'll bet you though that off the air she speaks
it better than the three of us combined.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's totally leaned into.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah, she has to practice because it's hard to not
get out of it like that's impressive.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
She has to practice at home and keep the accent.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Well, it's yeah, it's part of the deal.
Speaker 6 (33:25):
Yeah, well, yeah, you wouldn't find her as attractive.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Correct, Well, no, that's not what I meant. No, I
thought you were going to say something else, and I
already had the answer.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
It happens.
Speaker 9 (33:40):
I love how nervous Dan gets whenever we talk about
attractive women. Not as nervous as John Ramos used to get,
because we knew what was waiting at home for John.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But I have no We played the nearly wed game
once with John and we needed to clarify because it
was him and Mancy. We had to clarify that they
were not actually an item.
Speaker 6 (33:59):
We weren't.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
We're pretending, John pretending.
Speaker 9 (34:02):
Yeah, but I will say that I have zero problems
saying this full throated pause. Uh, Sophia Ragara is dripping
wet hot, and I just realized that she's my age.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
She's my age.
Speaker 6 (34:15):
Yeah, she is dripping what hot? I like that.
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Speaking of John Ramos tenth anniversary of Kitty Boo being
killed by the neighborhood dog, So rip to Kitty Boo,
we miss you. John's cat got out and then the
neighborhood German shepherd and then got I know, thank.
Speaker 6 (34:33):
You for thank you for bringing that into our lives.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Anyos, I'm dan byer. John said to us on time,
can you can you just not talk about Kitty Boo again?
So I have not stopped talking about it. I see
John hasn't been at the network for john and a
half and we're still talking about it here on Fox
Sports right now. Brandon tweets in I hate those cheeters
from Houston to this day. I don't know why Manfred
didn't punish the players at all. Both the seventeen and
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twenty two titles should have been vacated.
Speaker 6 (34:59):
Right, Brendan, I agree, Listen.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
I know that the Packers and Cowboys have had rivalries
in the past, but if you're like a current Cowboy fan,
you'd have to hate the Packers for the des Bryant
sure like non catch. If you're the Lions. There was
a call in the game prior to that Packers Cowboys
matchup that went against the Lions, so I would be like, oh,
you probably got to be pretty annoyed with the Dallas Cowboys.
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Those are the things that I was looking at in
all of this. Maybe not too as big of a
stage of a World Series or a Super Bowl, but
there are things that happen in certain games that always
stick with you and they never leave.
Speaker 6 (35:35):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
She's Moncey Blagos, I'm Dan Byer. We will never leave.
As we continue here on Fox Sports, Radio in for
Cavino and Rich, hit Mancy up at Monte Bolognos. You
can find me at Dan Bayer on Fox.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
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Speaker 10 (35:56):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (35:56):
That All Star fever is starting to spread, and that's
not good thing, Manzi. Usually it's great. Oh yes, I've
got spring fever. All Star fever is something that is
so so different all in itself. We're talking All Star
fever here on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Yeah, we do have summer fever. It's just All Star
fever is not as hot. It's a little cool.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
All Star fever is you know what. I'm not feeling
too well, and it's usually because of snubs.
Speaker 6 (36:24):
Snubs, but do we really care?
Speaker 2 (36:27):
There's a dirty little secret behind all of that. Welcome in.
It is Fox Sports Radio in for Covino and Rich,
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. Today. Isaac Low
and Crown, Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith are here for us.
The All Star reserves. We knew the starters were announced,
but the All Star reserves, the rosters were filled out
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yesterday and something that is as old as time occurred yesterday,
and that is making a list of All Star snubs. Now,
this is where the fever is a bad thing. I
find it funny on how year after year there are
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always snubs. There are players on your team that you
think should be on the All Star squad but that
didn't make the squad, and you're ticked off because that
player was good for your team. And then you start
being that person and saying, well, how did this guy
make it? Why did this guy make it? Why does
every team have to be an All Star? It happens
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every single year, and we drive down that same road.
You know what else happens every single year? Manci, I'm
going to lean on the shoulders of Jason Stewart, our
executive producer. That makes the point, and Jason, I will
let you verbalize it, because these rosters aren't necessarily set
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in stone, are they? So what else happens every single
year when it comes to All Star rosters and it
comes to All Star snubs?
Speaker 9 (37:59):
So this is kind of the day that radio producers
and TV debate show producers could be really wazy, Like
they could go into their calendar in December and be like,
on July the seventh we could have a segment and
talk about the snubs. And by the way, the word
snub is not a great word to hear. It's like
a it's like a smegma. Is that the word that
everyone hates? And then there's a word that women, all
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women hate that ends in an st that I won't
say those words, but snub is such a bad word.
And like every single year, we could have a segment
where we're like, all right, well we're the biggest snubs.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I want to hear your calls.
Speaker 9 (38:36):
I'll call in be really upset about who doesn't make
the team, and then throughout the week, as injuries occur,
those same snubs that everyone was screaming about just make
the team and that's it. So it basically was just
a huge waste of air for radio people.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Outrage for the sake of outrage when it doesn't even matter.
And you heard Manti say it off the top, this
is meant no disrespect to the broadcast that is put
together by Fox, as the All Star Game will be
on Fox. I feel that it is rage for the
sake of rage, or something to be upset about because
it hurt your feelings. But how many people will actually
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boycott the All Star Game because their player wasn't in it,
or actually watch the All Star Game and care as
it's going on because their player isn't in the game.
Like if you think that Juan Soto should be in
the game, and let's say, to Jason's point, he gets
into the game as an injury replacement, you darn well
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sure you'd better be watching in the fifth inning when
he comes in as an injury replacement because you complained
the whole week about how Wan Soto should have been
an All Star, which, by the way, I think there's
a very good argument on why Wan Soda will be
an All Star. We'll get to that in a bit.
But it's never paid off. It's a reason to complain.
To Jason's point, it's a topic, it's low hanging f
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but it's also never paid off. Manzi where I don't
think people are sitting there tuning into the All Star
Game if their guy gets in when they were so
mad that they weren't there in the first place, completely
double talking.
Speaker 5 (40:12):
Does this come because maybe we're holding on to baseball
being the last real All Star Game, and so we
want to care or pretend to care but in reality,
I will put on the All Star Game right, have
it on the background, But it's more of a matchup
that I'm looking for. I'm looking for a matchup that
I may not get to see a lot throughout the
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regular season, and then I'm moving on. But are we
holding on because we think it's the last real All
Star Game?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think that's a very interesting point, and I think
it could be a valid point. I also think it's
the only thing going on right now. As a sports
fan of teams that you care about, so football is
about to start, the NBA has ended, so you're passionate
about your baseball team. If you're in that mode, there
are a lot of people passionate. If you've seen the
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numbers from this past weekend, Major League Baseball put them
out magnificent Fourth of July weekend for baseball. So it's healthy.
But I think that there's there's not a lot to
distract people right now. It's summertime. Guess what, let's find
something to bother me. But I think that what you
said is what you said is real. I also think
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that the openness of the roster is real. So in
an NBA All Star Game, you have twelve spots. I
think for team I think you should have fifteen. I
think that that would be good for the game. There
are veterans that don't necessarily want to play. I'm not
trying to fix. It's not a fix in the All
Star conversation, but I think that it should be opened
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a little bit more, and I think that it would
help the product. I think that this is open enough.
Yes it is, and so to that aspect, I think
that there is there is some weight to being an
All Star, but it's also the only thing that's going
on right yeaw, you.
Speaker 5 (41:59):
Hardly get to say, these All Star pitchers, we want
to see more than one inning of Paul Skeins, but
that's probably what you're gonna get.
Speaker 6 (42:08):
Yes, So it's like.
Speaker 5 (42:10):
You're you're angry, but you're right. What else are you
gonna be angry about the way a mascot looks?
Speaker 6 (42:15):
No, you gotta be angry.
Speaker 2 (42:16):
I'm I'm looking at a list of snubs. I'm gonna
take this from SI dot com. Okay, a list of
what snubs?
Speaker 3 (42:25):
Snubs?
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Okay, snubs, yes.
Speaker 6 (42:27):
Snubs, snubs.
Speaker 2 (42:28):
Can you believe JP Crawford didn't make the All Star Game?
Short stuff? For the Seattle Mariners. Like this is I
know it sounds absurd. That's what we're doing here, That's
what we're doing. So if you're arguing about that it's ridiculous,
well JP stands for just pathetic. Jasony slashing two eighty five,
three eighty six and three eighty right now. I mean,
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like it's it's ridiculous. Joe Ryan of the Twins not
an All Star, absurd, Christopher Sanchez of the Phillies.
Speaker 6 (42:58):
Absurd all Star.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
These are part of the list of.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
The Looks, not an All Star.
Speaker 2 (43:03):
So the Nationals had an All Star snub. They are trocious.
They won like eight games this year. It's more than that,
but I get it, so CJ. Abrams. The point is,
this is what it's come down to, and I'm not
trying to disrespect any of those players and what they
have done this season. In fact, it would be a
great honor, I'm sure, for those players to be named
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an All Star. And that's a bit of the rub
with all of this, but it's fake outrage and it's
not real. The last name on the list is Juan
Soto of the New York Mets, and I'm sorry for
a game that's made for TV. Juan Soto deserves to
be at the All Star Game, and he deserves to
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be at the All Star Game for the same reason
that Clayton Kershaw is at the All Star Game, because
we want to see Clayton Kershaw there, likely for the
last time. They did this with with Miguel Cabrera and
putting him as a veteran to the All Star team.
This is expanding the All Star roster. This is a
way of doing it. But when you talk about the
stories that have happened in Major League Baseball so far
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in the first half of the season, sorry, Wan Soto
has been a part of that discussion. And if his
numbers are even in the neighborhood and being an All Star,
you want to see Juan Soto. He's on a new team,
he's back to being in the National League. All of
that factors in. Like, I do think that that is
a snub for the reason that you want to make
the game as appealing as it is. And it's no
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disrespect to someone like JP Crawford. There's none of that
CJ Abrams, no disrespect meant towards those players. But Sodo
moves the needle in a way that those players don't.
And that's why when you're talking about a made for
TV event, that's what that's what he does, That's what
this does. Soda should have been an All Star absolutely.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
How much money is he making?
Speaker 5 (44:51):
Seven hundred and sixty five million dollars, the biggest contract
he has to be in the All Star Game. It's
kind of silly that they didn't make that decision ahead
of time. Maybe they wanted this to be the real
snub while everybody else, like you said, there's a lot
of players that could have, should have, would have. You know,
there's a lot of good talent out there, but like
Jan Sodo, not being in the initial list is kind
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of just like you dropped the big ball here. You
have to have him out there, and his numbers are
in the ballpark. He started off slow, and that was
the big discussion at all. He misses the Yankees, but
those numbers, I look, they're in the ballpark. He should
be there. He's he's the highest paid player in baseball
right now, get out there, put him in the All
Star Game.
Speaker 6 (45:31):
Don't make this be a story when it's not, especially
because Jason said it.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
There's gonna be an injury or something, and he's gonna
be the first one they put into replace.
Speaker 2 (45:40):
There's always gonna be someone that's left out, always, whether
you know the NCAA tournament, the team that's you know,
not number sixty nine or number seventy, they didn't make
the field of sixty eight. In this case, somebody's going
to be left out. I'm not saying Wan Soda should
replace someone. Just make sure that Wan SODA's on the team,
just like you made sure that Clayton Kershaw is on
the team this year, just like you have Miguel Cabrera
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being on the team a year or two ago. All
of that is completely understood and accepted and honestly welcomed.
And I think if you expanded it, I've been I've
thought Major League Baseball should do this. Bonzie Jason and
I have been together long enough that he's heard this
argument before. Last year we were lucky enough that Paul
Skeens was put on the All Star team and ended
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up getting the start in the All Star Game. We
all wanted to watch Paul Skeins pitch in that first inning.
The year prior, Ellie de la Cruz was taking over
Major League Baseball, and in highlight after highlight after highlight,
was his time in the big leagues all star worthy?
Probably not. Were the numbers that he was putting up.
Did they measure with the top All Stars? Maybe not
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at that point, but he was talked about top five
player in the game for those two months or a
month and a half that he was there. What's the
problem with adding a young star to each of these rosters?
To put it in the game that would actually probably
want to play. It also allows you to have a
future star instead of having a Future Stars game on
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the Sunday when there's actual games going on at that ballpark.
Put a future star, a guy that's in the big
leagues as a possible future All Star, and make them
a part of that roster. It can only help your
brand that you're cultivating future stars for the team. If
they're doing it for the old guys, they should figure
out a way to do it for the young guys
as well.
Speaker 5 (47:28):
You couldn't have said it better because it's like, this
is one of those moments or one of these events
where you lean into the popularity side of it. It
is a popularity yes, yes, lean into that this is
the time to do it. This is the All Star Game.
We're not talking about, you know, an award at the
end of the season where you know it's one person here.
You should absolutely have the guys that are popular and
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bringing eyes to the sport.
Speaker 6 (47:52):
They dropped the ball with Elie de la Cruz. I
was here with you when you were talking about that
a year ago.
Speaker 5 (47:57):
And they're dropping the ball with Juan Soto again, unless
you wanted this to be the topic of conversation when
in reality, it's a bad look on baseball.
Speaker 6 (48:06):
It's a bad look on how you're handling things.
Speaker 2 (48:08):
And I think monestly they've opened the door or it's
been opened for so long because of the rule that
every team has been an All Star or it needs
an All Star. Because you lay out that rule right there,
that then tells me you kind of have I'm not
carte blanche, but you have the ability to make the
rosters like they should be. Realistically, if you didn't do
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this in the National League, you'd have Phillies, Mets, Cubs
and Dodgers and a few Giants and Padre sprinkled in
like that's what it would be, and half the league
would be washed out. I don't know if that's good.
I don't know if that's bad, but that's what it is.
But you have flexibility in doing this because you're already saying,
we're making these guys an All Star. Now there's that
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lesson the label of All Star. I don't think one bit.
I don't think that it does. I think that it's
revered by your home team. But it does tell me
that there are pieces that you can move. And honestly,
there are guys who are in this All Star Game
that probably want to have one at bat and be
good with it. Now, it would give us something to
complain after the All Star Game. But if you have
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other guys to play those spots, I don't see how
it could be a bad thing.
Speaker 6 (49:17):
It can't be a bad thing. That's why it's so
interesting that they haven't done this.
Speaker 5 (49:21):
Like you just said, there's players who are just gonna
get one at bat, and there's others that fans tune
in and there's still probably.
Speaker 6 (49:27):
Only going to get one at bat, and that should
also change.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
I understand you want to bring in all of these pictures,
but the ones that people really want to watch, you
got to keep them in there longer than an inning
and that's not gonna happen because of the size of
this roster for the All Star Game.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Yeah, I you know what, I can get on board
with that. I'm trying to expand and saying like, maybe
these guys would play more. But if you're saying for
the product, I wouldn't necessarily hate it. I think some
of these guys, you take a young star, like, just like,
how would Elie de la Cruz do over that forty
eighth to seventy two hours being in the same line
locker room with Baseball's best, right, Like, I think that
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there's there's a valuable piece in that as well. So
you're going in a different direction than I am. But
I don't. I don't hate yours at all.
Speaker 5 (50:10):
But you make a point, and I'm just like, here,
I'm adding to it in the sense of, like, you
have so many people on your roster, why not add
another one? Now, if you're not going to have that
many people on the roster, then you're able to keep these.
Speaker 6 (50:21):
Guys out for a lot longer, which is really what
a lot of people want.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
But you already have such a big roster, you might
as well add the popular one.
Speaker 9 (50:28):
Sure, Jason Stewart, it feels like your idea Dan might
come from like the rights holders, right, the executives of
Fox or ESPN, whoever's carrying the game, would choose someone
who moves the needle, and you promoted as such, this
is our either young player that moves the needle or
who's the center fielder for the for the A's that
(50:49):
seems to make a circus catch once a week. Oh yeah,
and it's like a chance to not only announce that
they're included in the game, but to promote someone that
is young and up and coming. Denzel Club Yeah yeah,
yeah yeah. And also, by the way, Joe Ryan being
on the snub list, I would argue that Joe Ryan's
like immediate family doesn't need to see him at the
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Alstro game. That's how boring. Joe Ryan as a pitcher
is as boring as his name, Joe Ryan.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
It's about it's about stars. It is old and new
and current, and that's what I think is lost in
all of this. To his point, I don't want to
speak for Joe Ryan's family. Maybe it is, maybe it isn't.
But if you're trying to bring in people and trying
to bring in more eyes. And I'll tell you what,
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if Denzel Clark was added to this roster as a
young star, I would have been able to say Denzel
Clark right at that point. Now we've seen the catch.
We've seen the catch is the ace stink right now,
it's not necessarily on the forefront of our mind. But
you put him in an All Star game, he robs
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someone of a home run. We're talking about Denzel Clark's
twenty twenty five home run robbing in Atlanta as an
All Star highlight throughout the years. So I think that
ends up paying all for It helps at least throughout
the season for the A's in that part, to add
another young name, bring somebody out to the ballpark. There's
no negatives in any of this. It just and when
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you've already set out the rules to be what they are,
to try to appease every certain fan base, I think
there's other ways that you can do it instead of
maybe turning them off if they're not happy with the snubs.
Speaker 6 (52:34):
It just seems like a missed opportunity. You know who
are they.
Speaker 2 (52:38):
The WNBA, Oh, Moncey Blagos hit it off at Monzi Bolognos.
You can find me at dan Byer on Fox All
Star Game a week from tomorrow in Atlanta. You will
see it on Fox Home Run Derby a week from
tonight as well as the bats will line up. Yes,
the first half of the Major League Baseball season soon
(53:00):
coming to a close. Again, hit Moncy up at monci
Bolano so you can find me at dan Byer on Fox.
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