August 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Dan Beyer and Kerry Rhodes in for C&R as they discuss Travis Kelce and his admission that maybe setting himself up for an off-field career may have distracted him last year. Dan and Kerry talk about how Cal Raleigh breaking a team record by Ken Griffey Jr just wouldn't feel right .Dan and Kerry bring up an exceptional season by Dan Marino.
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Carrie.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I feel it just needs to be said. There's a
huge podcast dropping in two hours. We'll get to that.
But I never root for injury, So I don't want
anybody to think that we're happy anybody is injured. That
is not the case. Never against shad or Sanders, never
against them. It stinks that he got dinged up in
practice today and the Heck's buyer. I feel like I
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need to say that because the whole issue with Shadoor
was perception is reality, Right, That's the perception is reality.
That's what I'm saying. There's a perception that I'm against
shaudor Sanders. That is not the case. It is one
hundred percent not the case, but I still need to
fight against it. Anyway. That's where we start today on
this Wednesday. And there's a perception and that Travis Kelce
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may have lost the step. Yeah, he's fighting back from
that perception. We dive in, welcome in. He is the
all pro. I'm Dan byersitting in for Covino and Rich
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Today. Jason Stewart is here. Hello everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hello, he's our executive producer today. Ryan Smith is at
the board. What's going on? Papa Bear?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hello? Hello?
Speaker 4 (01:23):
And Chris Proffetts set the news desk. Hi, Hello, Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hello? All right? You good?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Everything's set? With your your mic because I know you
want to weigh in on the pod that's about to
drop and Travis Kelsey's upcoming season a lot to prove
for the three time Super Bowl champion one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That part is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
But I just want to let everybody know, like off
the air, he has his Witches brew going, he has
a smoke he has to say, he's going, you know,
wishing that's to do it with nom joking, He's He's
not doing that at all. He's definitely just dropping good takes.
And I know everybody's been up in arms about that
the last couple of days. But no, I mean it's
so much going on. No, this tra his stuff and
you know, as a player back in the day, like
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you really had to focus on your craft, like that
was a big thing. If you had anything that was
going on outside of the game, it was always kind
of like frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know, the job is the job.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
We're here to be the best version of the football
player that we can be, right, And then you start
getting endorsements, you get a little you know, you get
a little fame, and you start getting a little notoriety,
and obviously for your own personal reasons, you know, you
go after those things.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think, you know, the team always wants you to.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Talk about the team, yes, and talk about what's going
on day to day there and how you're getting better
and how the team's getting better. But again, like this,
you know, this career the NFL is such a short one,
so you want to maximize your window, so doing other things.
When I think the season is over, I feel it's
perfectly fine. But when it bleeds into what's going on
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throughout the year and you know, day to day stuff,
that becomes a problem. And I think for Travis this
is only just an excuse. I mean, obviously he's older,
he has lost the step and you know, you know,
the game changes, the game catches up to the greatest,
the greatest of who's ever done it, and he's one
of those guys that can be in that same categories
one of the greatest tight ends I've ever done it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, well, let me just quick just interrupt, because I
just want people to understand essentially where we're talking what
we're talking about here. Travis Kelcey spoke with GQ and said, quote,
I think it might have slipped a little bit because
that did have a little more focus in trying to
set myself up. And he's talking about losing focus from
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the football field because of other off field opportunities that
came up. Said opportunities came up quote where I was
excited to venture into a new world of acting and
being an entertainer. Shot up, was the host of a
Amazon series during the off season, appeared in an FX
series as well, talking about all of the other things
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that happened outside of football, and says that he they
have lost his focus looking at those things, which is
a reason why he had a dip in his numbers
these past couple of seasons. So that's what Travis Kelcey
ended up saying the GQ. Sorry I interrupted, but just
wanted to set the scene so we can debate time
where Travis Kelsey is.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, no question not.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I mean I probably jumped the gun a little bit
on that, but you know, it's it's that, right, like
being a player and really concentrating on getting better at
your craft and your job is always party number one.
But when you step outside and do other things that
you know can expand your career post football, I'm always
on board for that. But when you when it bleeds
into the team, bleeds into your performance, that becomes the issue.
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But the issue isn't that for Travis Kelce In my opinion,
it's just that he's lost a step.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And again, like you, it happens naturally.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's part of the old adage that you know, nobody's
nobody beats Father time, right, and that's what's happening here.
It's not about him having a terrible gig on FX
and doing a bad job, and it's you know, it's
even though it's fun and he's done a great job
of actual putting themselve out there, this isn't the issue, Dan,
and I hate when people make excuses like that. Yes,
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just say I'm gonna you know, the last two seasons
were down years, and that's part of being a professional
as well. I've had down years and you bounce back
and you come back and do what you can for
your team. And I think that's what he should be
talking about more.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think there's a couple of different levels to this
Travis Kelcey conversation, and just the first of which is
the stat line. So over the last two years he
is not top one thousand yards. In twenty twenty three,
if he played in every game played in fifteen of
the seventeen probably would have had nine hundred and eighty
four yards, but just five touchdowns that year. Last year,
playing in sixteen games, targets were down, receptions were down
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eight hundred and twenty three yards and just three touchdowns.
And what I find here is what they're trying to
find here, What is the reality of this, because not
only is it the number sliding, you're saying that Father
Time is unbeaten. And then now you have another angle
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of it of his effort into this. In Super Bowl
fifty nine against the Eagles. Yeah, something we've talked about,
which I think was on clear display for hundreds of
millions to see that there just wasn't There was there
was something missing, something wasn't there in Super Bowl fifty nine.
So Kelsey goes on to tell GQ Magazine, I have
such motivation to show up this year for my guys.
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I don't say this is I shouldn't have done it,
meaning the other off field stuff. I'm just saying that
my work ethic is such that I have so much
pride in how I do things that I never want
the product to tail off. And I feel like these
past two years haven't been to my standard, and that
maybe how he feels. And sometimes you're the last one
to know yes, yes, right, yes, And I'm wondering if
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that's the case with Travis Kelcey. But this is what
I think is interesting because our executive producer Jason Stewart,
who unlike you carry has not played in the NFL,
but he had a different opinion on what Travis Kelcey
was saying or not saying in here. And Jason, your explanation,
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in your words, how you put what Kelsey did here
with GQ Magazine was what.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
I think that only a guy that's already had his
career could say this like the balls of somebody to
say in GQ to your fans that maybe something was
distracting me from doing the ultimate thing last year and
win in a Super Bowl. You can't a first or
second year player can't admit this. Even a midstream player
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can't admit this. So I kind of admire it for
being refreshing that you just don't hear people admit to this.
You know for a fact that it has happened in
other cases, but they never admit it. In fact, they
emphatically deny it and they get offended by it. So
that was kind of my takeaway. It's either refreshing to
hear or if I'm a Chiefs fan, that's kind of
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a punch in the gut a little bit, is it not?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
If it was year five Travis Kelsey who's coming off
a Pro Bowl and in year six out of day,
that would make more sense to me, like it would
be a valid option for him to go that route.
Him going that route when we know that he's telling
off and he's done, you know, it's just, yeah, that
part just doesn't It doesn't ring true to me at all.
(08:16):
It feels like something that's trying to buffer the last
two years, which I don't know why he would do that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I would rather say if this is a weird pride thing.
And that's why I side with what you're saying. Not
that I'm against what Jason says, but I think that
you're you're on target with what he says. It's easier
to say I just I didn't try, rather than to say, like,
I don't have it if I don't have it anymore.
And the reason why maybe he can say that is
because he did have it at one time or is
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someone who didn't ever have it. You really can't take
any stock into what you're saying. So the fact that
we're even considering it shows you what Travis Kelcey accomplished
throughout his career. But I think that your point is
exactly right. The we want to know if all right,
the is it the old friend now fiance that's the
biggest pop star in the world. Well, I think that's
(09:05):
the rumors, right, That's that's the whole deal. Maybe we'll
find out in two hours as they're dropping albums and
everything of the New Heights podcast. But all of that
is going on, but he's going to point to these
other things. So it's not the relationship, it's not the play,
it's not it's not me wearing down as a player
and just getting older. It's FX and it's the Amazon
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Game show and it's all of that stuff. And I
think that's that's easy to point to.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The The thing.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That just makes me laugh about this whole thing is
this isn't to Diana Rossini of The Athletic, this isn't
to ESPN. This is the GQ magazine. Okay, so this
is like, this is like, guess what I'm done doing
nudes to Playgirl magazine. Like that's what that's what it
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would be. I'm not gonna eat meat anymore. To Carnivor's
own that, like that's the like, that's what he's doing.
He's like, I've lost my way in speaking the GQ.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Magazine like like this is this is the Like that's
the part. Also, I'm going to you and going to
your side and being like, yeah, like I don't think
that you truly believe any.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Of of that other stuff. I think you don't want
to believe that you lost a step.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And it's easy to point to that other stuff. And
by the way, more more power to you if you
can be the cover person on GQ. I'm not I'm
just it's funny to me to sit there and to
read an article in GQ about how committed Travis Kelcey
is the football?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Am I wrong? Like like this is?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
That's the part that it just it made me chuckle
because that's not necessarily where I thought I would I
would be able to read that sort of artist.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So, Dan, you're trying to say GQ doesn't put out
legit articles.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What are you doing and going on saying is that
your interests are in other areas and GQ magazine is
probably one of those areas.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's a terrible cover too. Right away, I'm sorry, I'm
kind of hating. I'm kind of hating fir coat. Yeah,
it was like a like a bare head on top
of his head or something.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Was it? Was it that extreme? Or am I exaggerated?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I thought it was some fir thing. I didn't get
the whole, the whole sort of deal I was. I
didn't see the entire picture. But he was brooding. He
had a brooding look on his face. It was crazy, man.
But again, listen to listen to this right So, the
greatest of all time. He was filming a movie, an
animated movie that was one of the biggest movies at
the time, Michael Jordan, right, while also preparing for a
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season where they came back and won a championship and
they had the best team, the best record up until
the Golden State Wars came and booked that record. They
won seventy two games. He filmed the movie, he actually
set his workout schedule early in the morning. He would
get his work out in early in the morning. So
as far as being able to do both, in general,
it can be done. So that's not an excuse.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Number one, Like if he can to go out and
film a whole movie where he's in the whole movie
and he's carrying the movie Michael Jordan, workout, play games
after filming, and then do it all over again the
next day. Like there's no reason for any player to
say that something else got in the way when you
committed to which you committed to. And so you know
he's been committed to football. If he wasn't, andy read
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wouldn't allow him to play or be a part of
what's going on. Like and it reads the old school culture,
you know what I mean. Like, so that stuff doesn't
even I don't get with that at all. And so
when you just can't like take what the real the
realism of all of this and say, you know what, again,
I'm getting older, I gotta find new ways to get
open and help my team win. I think that would
have been the better thing for me to hear.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I love when bands admit their album's stunk, right like
when when it bobs like that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You'll hear that and it may be in.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
To promote the next album, but they'll just be like, yeah,
we just it wasn't It wasn't there. They look back
and say it was missing there. There was just something
wasn't And maybe in this time with Travis Kelsey look
back and say that if he has a great year
and that will be the problem. But again, I think
I'm leaning more towards towards where you are and that
he doesn't have it because also in this piece with GQ,
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it focused on how he's prepping for the upcoming season
and has added a new a speed coach, a speed
and agility coach to his repertoire, and so he's been
working out in Florida And the point that was made
as part of this article is that Travis Kelcey is
the most effective when he's running between twelve and sixteen
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miles per hour. Now, this isn't meant to get into
the weeds. It's just that if he runs full speed,
nineteen miles per hour was a top speed they had
clocked him at in a Super Bowl. He does not
have the ability then to move his body and elude
defenders like he would normally do. And I'm curious as
a player like you hear that Travis Kelcey at times
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looks slow on the field, like just like maybe it's
because he's so massive in a certain way, but also
now it's like, is he not going to full He's
not going full speed. Do you think that's a cover
up for him losing a step or do you think
that that is an actual excuse? Is someone who's spent
eight years in the National Football League when we have
a speed coach? Is that is that bologne? Or is
that something that we could legitimately take up and say, Okay,
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that's a legitimate, legitimate thing that Travis Kelsey does when
he plays.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
No, it's blooney. How many tight ends are out running
anybody anyway? You're not out running corners because because he's
such a good player, you're going to put probably one
of your best cover guys on him. So he's never
beaten anybody with speed. He's beaten him with positioning, he's
beaten him with the christness that he runs his routes,
and that part of it is just not there right now.
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He can't get in and out of breaks, click identifying defenses.
He will always know, but that's part of it. Is
not straight straight ahead speed anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Ever, that's very interesting, Yeah, because that's what they're saying here,
is that when he's running at twelve to sixteen, he
has more ability to move and elude defenders, and he
can separate from a linebacker at that speed.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He doesn't need to be at.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Nineteen miles per hour. But it seems like it's more
trying to add to a narrative that he hasn't lost
a stet.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The pr span is impeccable right now with no, you're right,
you're one hundred percent. That's all I hear, if that's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, and I just point to the fact of the
two years ago when on a bye week he flew
to South America to see Taylor Swift in concert. Yeah,
and I know that's not brought up. I have actually
have no problem with him doing an off season TV show. No,
Jordan is like the one of one of doing what
he and there's really nobody else that can do that,
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even other players. I'll bring up shud Or Sanders. Shod
Or Sanders wants to work on music in his downtime
when he's sitting at home and done with practice. Go
right ahead, now, we don't want you to play twelve
hours of call of duty like Kyler Murray, you know,
supposedly used to. I don't think that's a great use
of time, but you do have to have an escape.
You do have a Tuesday off day. I hate comparing
real world to your world of an athlete, like the
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nine to five months through Friday job or the factory job.
I hate comparing it to professional athletes. But it's the
same way. If we're going to be critical of an
athlete doing something, we'd have to be critical of somebody
going somewhere on a Saturday or Sunday on their week off.
Like it's just at some point you need some escape.
Even if you're you're in a season, and granted you
have an off season, but your off season isn't like
an offseason. You have mini camps and the whole deal.
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So that's why I just I don't love to compare
the two, but it just seems like they're picking spots
of the TV show, the game show, and nothing else
around it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
But all that's off season stuff, and to me, I
don't think that would affect it. But also like when
you're just looking at this world here that does the
game show in August or July of twenty twenty four,
June of twenty twenty four, does that come back February
twenty twenty five when you're not putting forth the effort
in the Super Bowl? Does does it go through weeks
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one through eighteen at that point? I don't think it does.
I just, yeah, I agree with you. I think that
this is kind of a cover up, if you will,
on what the real problem is with Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And it doesn't come off. It doesn't come off great.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like again, yes, you want to be forward and up
right and up forth and have that type of energy,
but again, some things are better left un said.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We already kind of know the answer to.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
That, don't you think, though, I mean, and I'm starting
to I'm starting to kind of agree with with your
side of this here, but there's don't you agree it's
a strange way to cover something up by welcoming a
whole new thing of criticism, Like I know, going on GQ,
if you're saying that he's speaking to a certain audience
and that maybe maybe we over here wouldn't have gotten
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the information. But it just seems like he's welcoming a
whole batch of criticism by admitting to being distracted to
an entire fan base who is trying to win a
third straight Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We all know someone who loves to admit when they're
wrong because they get the soft landing. Someone says, you know,
I messed up. I can't do that again. What is
your natural response? Hey man, they'll be so hard on yourself,
like you've done a really good job. It's an actual
tactic that I think that people will use, where they
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will admit what they want to admit is wrong. And
I think that's part of it, is he doesn't want
to admit that he lost a step or he doesn't
want to admit and I don't think his relationship had
anything to do with it. I don't think he should
have gone to South America on a bye week. But
then the NFL is like, well, to cover it up,
we'll send teams to South America. You know, I'm just kidding,
but I don't like those areas aren't being touched. He's
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pointed to two off season entities of acting on TV
that I think are easy to point to exactly, and
then when you say, guess what, I lost a step,
then you're like, you know what, man, you help us
win three super Bowls. I can't wait for the upcoming season.
Instead of being like, why have you slacked off these
last three years? Why are you just riding into the sunset.
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They try to take control of the narrative by admitting
they're wrong, but they only want to admit what they
want to admit because then they know the other parties
will respond in that way.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Jay, STU, think about this, Out of those three things
that we just talked about, the TV show, the hosting gig,
and not being able to do it anymore, which one
is worse? Which one is worse from the standpoint of
a fan base? Yeah, like, what's more of an indictment?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I guess out of those three, the last one you
mentioned exactly, And he didn't mention that one, So that
tells me what it is right there, Those are the blame.
That's why he didn't. It's that TV show, which is
why he only had eight hundred and twenty three yards.
Imagine telling you your fan base, Dan and your teammates,
I can't do it anymore, but I'm coming out here
again for year seventeen or whatever it is. Right, Yeah,
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that would be even more selfish any other things.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
And again, doesn't seem like the Chiefs have ever planned
for this for the next era of Travis kelcey And
though they've had a couple of guys. Noah Gray is
in there as a possibility, but you know there was.
They're a team that could use that next era tight
end and they haven't moved on from it necessarily. And
they've tried to get outside guys to help to help
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Patrick Mahomes. Maybe they need somebody that's like Travis kelce
to help hear those offensive.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Got a question for you, Dan, what if? What if?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
What if he wasn't with Taylor Swift right now? Would
they still have him on a team after the last
two years in his performance in.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yes, Yes, I do think, yes, right, I don't think
that Taylor Swift has that much power. Again, he won,
he won Super Bowls before he met on Taylor Swift. Sure,
so like in the reason and that's probably you know,
it helps it helps me. Travis Kelce like, I get
all of that. So there's just a lot of equity
in there, and there are probably very few people that
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can say what he said. It's just do you believe
what he's actually saying?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
We'll find out over eighteen weeks, starting the week of
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Speaker 4 (21:19):
Chris Quick Question before you Yeah, please step away. Barry
Sanders retires in nineteen ninety eight. A shock to the
Lions fans as part of that retirement.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
We go back a long long ways.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Do Lions fans miss Barry Sanders not continuing his career?
Are they resentment? Is there any resentment at all that
he didn't become the all time leading rusher? If we
can just take a look at the Lions fans' minds
when it comes to Barry Sanders' retirements, where do they sit?
Even though it happened twenty five years ago, so it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Is a long time ago. I don't think there's a
lot of resentment, partly because I think what happens after
a career, once some time has passed, is whether or
not you decide to stand in good graces with the team.
And for Barry Sanders, he's always on the sideline with
the Lions. He's become something of an ambassador for the team.
He's always representing them, doing interviews and appearing before major games.
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The Lions, especially with when the ownership flipped over to
Sheila hamp has really taken a hard policy of making
sure all the legends come back. I think there was
some resentment, a lot of resentment with like Megatron, with
Calvin Johnson when he left because there was the whole
you know, million dollars on the table. Still that was
a big sticking point. But you know, I think there
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was a lot of reconciliation, but the first one to
really have that, you know, embrace the Lions coming back
was Barry Sanders. So if there's anyone still complaining about
Barry Sanders among Lions fans, they're like the oldest of
old heads. I think most people see him as the
Lions legend unequivocally.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The reason I bring it up is because Barry Sanders
was on his way to being the all time leading
rusher in the NFL and was going to set that
record if you would have played a couple of more seasons.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Emmett Smith ultimately left.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
The game two thousand and four with over eighteen thy
three hundred yards, but when Barry Sanders left in nineteen
ninety eight, he had fifteen two hundred and sixty nine
yards and was fifteen hundred yards shy of Walter Payton's record,
So would have been Barry Sanders, and Barry Sanders may
still be the leading rushing or leading running back or
for rushing yards today if he would have continued to
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play in his career. That's why I started and why
I asked the question to Chris is that would also
be a Lions record, right like that would be a
record embraced by the city. Cal Raley is on the
verge of breaking a lot of records for the Seattle
Mariners right now he is. He's just shy of the
pace to break Aaron Judge's record of sixty two American
(23:44):
League home runs. Right now, he's on pace for sixty one.
So they're saying the likelihood of breaking in of sixty
three or more is thirty eight point five percent. That's
according to bet online right now. Will he break the record? Yes,
is plus one twenty. No is minus one six. That's
for Judges sixty two. However, this was the one that
(24:04):
I thought was interesting. Will cal Raley break King Griffy
Junior's Mariner's single season home run record of fifty six
seventy one percent? Chance study will is he has forty
five home runs right now with forty two games left
minus two point fifty Yes, No, plus one seventy. Cal
Raley is having a magnificent season. If you're a Mariners fan,
(24:26):
do you want cal Raley to have that record or
King Griffyd Junior to have that record.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
As a Mariner fan, that's a that's a hard one, Dan.
I think that the sweetest swinging lefty ever and just
the name recognition, the father dynamic as well, just the
lure that the Griffies have.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That'd be a tough one to break.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yes, I agree to break, and it's why I brought
it up because it's not meant to disrespect cal Rally
in any way. But there is something about Ken gri
who was every kid's favorite player. I feel like of
my age and growing up because he's just he had
everything and he is, you know, so much of that organization.
Even though he left for a couple of years to
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play for the Reds, it's still they have Ken Grafree
Junior have your single season home run mark. I think
is pretty special. And it's not that the Mariners again
would cheer against cal ralely right, but I think that
there are records sometimes that you just don't want to
have broken. Roger marris Is broke a record of sixty
(25:33):
one when McGuire and Sosa and everybody were chasing it,
and while there were steroid thoughts, maybe at that time
that something was going on, there was still a group
of people that didn't want sixty one broken and that
they wanted that number to stay. And it's since been
broken by McGuire and Sosa and then obviously Bonds after that,
you know, ended up seventy three. And why Judge is
(25:53):
now sixty two is looked at as such a unique
number because he didn't pass Bonds a single season. But
you and say that it's an American League record. I
just think the thought process of breaking records and who
you want to have those records is trickier than you
would think on the surface. And I would just think
as a Mariners fan, to have Ken Griffy Junior hold
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that single season record, I think that they would they
would want Ken Griffy Junior to still have that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I could be completely off base.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm not a Mariners fan, but I think it's a
record that you would say, maybe I don't want that
one to be broken.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Yeah, get close to a col don't break it, just
get really close, like have have the end of the
season be a little countdown that you know he might
possibly do it, or he's on the brink of doing it.
But yeah, being the flag bearer for the Mariners having
that guy be Ken Griffy Junior, it's a big deal win.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
A World series could make up for it. Jason Stewart,
our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I think Roger Morris is like the perfect example here
because the people that at the time complained that Roger
Morris was just kind of this like Johnny come Lately,
who hadn't had a great yank your career they played
I think they I want to say, they expanded to
one hundred and sixty two games, so the whole asterisk
took place and it held up. By the way, the
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criticism of Roger Merris building up to that sixty one
season has held up. He didn't he did not have
a great career afterwards. That was kind of like his
one off, And I think that's the criticism of cal
Rawley's season. We don't know yet if he's going to
have other years like this. This could be his one season.
(27:32):
We knew Ken Griffy was amazing, he was a Hall
of Famer. He's the natural. So I think that's what
you're speaking to, like, we want, we want our heroes
to have these records, not just kind of like Johnny
cum Lately who had one great year.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a big part
of it, and it's also just of who Ken Griffy
Junior is and what he meant to that franchise, into
that team and to to all of us. I actually
think the worst case scenario would be Rally to break
fifty six but not get to Judges sixty two, so
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to be in that sweet spot, which by the way,
seems like where he's gonna land in his home run
total if he goes on a tear. Now there's others.
Mickey Mantle, as a switch hitter, hit the most home
runs in a single season that was fifty four. There's
an eighty seven and a half percent likelihood according to
bent Online, that he breaks that number. As for Bonds's
mark of seventy three, right now, it's plus two thousand
(28:25):
and a long shot twenty to one. Current odds are
less than five percent that Roley would be able to
hit seventy three, hit forty five with forty two to go.
That seems very unlikely. But if you were to fall
short of Judge, like if you were to break Judges
record and I have sixty three, then I think now
we've really developed a new star in Major League Baseball,
because now your name is attached to that record. But
(28:46):
if he was in between, if he would broke Griffy's
record but didn't get to judges. To Jason's point of
us not knowing like what cal Rawley's career is going
to be or the rest of it's going to be,
I think there would be some unhappy people. It's not
that I don't want records broken, but it's just the
fact of certain records. It's why I just thought with
with Barry Sanders, if Barry Sanders breaks the rushing record,
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it's not just Barry Sanders record, it's the entire city
of Detroit's record, it's the Lions record, it's probably the
State of Michigan's record. So like those things come with
those sort of marks. And that's why I think where
cal Raley is right now, he's in an interesting spot
because there could be some history on its side, but
he also could have the best player in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Maybe move aside. Jason, I was thinking about this.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
So I grew up with an on the I mean,
I have a bunch of family on the East Coast,
or just big Johnny Uniteds people yeah, like you don't know,
Johnny United Us. To a lot of people of a
certain age, is like their hero. And then you're thinking,
who holds the Colts single season record for passing? Peyton
probably holds it, and that's fine, Peyton holding it, but
(29:53):
Andrew luck is the single season? Is that good?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is that Okay?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
If you're a diehard Colts fan from way back.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Hey what you got? Damn?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I No, I would say no, like you don't want
like then you just then you just say you chalk
it up to well, that's just today's that's just today's NFL.
But there's something historic about it. Even though we all
remember Ken Garyfid junior playing, it's been a while, spent
a little while, so there's some there's some history, there's
some nostalgia with it. And to that, like even if
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Peyton Manning had the record, you could say, yeah, and
it's not as much about Lu's decision, but yet it
is you didn't want to play anymore, right and was
at that level and maybe could have been a great
So you feel a little empty with that feeling. Yeah,
I think there's absolutely something to that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Johnny, You Johnny you went to the University of Where
that's right, that's right statue in the end zone or
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I know they've renovated it, like you know twenty times.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
It's still there. Lamars is inside. But here's a steal
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We'll get to that in a second. But Carry and
I were talking during the break on this record's conversation
that we had just talked about with cal Raley coming
close to possibly breaking on track to break Ken Griffey
Junior's team record for home runs for the Mariners and
a little just slightly off the pace to break Aaron
Judge's American League record of sixty two home runs in
(32:33):
the season, and Johnny Unitas was brought up by Jason
Stewart and talking about the Colts. But it's your point
is it's very difficult to talk about Johnny Unitas as
a passer considering the eras that Luck, Andrew Luck and
Peyton Manning played yes, And so the conversation then turned
to it's what made Dan Marinos nineteen eighty four season,
(32:58):
So such a rarity, which I think if it was
today with inflation, it would probably be about seven thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's be ridiculous and it would.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, And in that season Marino, who by the way,
the five and eighty four yards is twelfth best all
time now for a single season passing yarded season, we've
now expanded seventeen games, you know, game more than he played.
Not everybody Peyton Manning and others did theirs in sixteen
games as well. But Carrie wanted to know the attempts.
(33:31):
Why were the attempts so interesting to you for what
Marino had.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Because obviously in today's game, the number of attempts they're
going to be higher, And so I wanted to see
where he stood when it came to his attempts in
that season because it just wasn't part of the NFL
as far as opening up the way they do now.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yes, and so the number of attempts that Dan Marino
had in that season in nineteen eighty four were five
hundred and sixty four. Right, I asked you carry former
All Pro safety who spent eight years in the league,
where he thought that ranked all time in attempts and
where do you think it ranks?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
And I said somewhere around forty okay, forty eight on
that list, But it seems like it's.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's Dan Marino's five hundred and sixty four attempts that
season are tied with Trevor Lawrence of the Jaguars for
one hundred and seventy ninth all time. So there were
one hundred and seventy eight quarterbacks in a season that
have thrown more passes in a season than Dan Marino
threw in that season.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Tom Brady had the record through seven hundred and thirty
three passes in two thousand and two through twenty twenty two.
Excuse me with the Buccaneers. The reason as well why
Marino's numbers are so crazy is Marino threw for five
thou eighty four yards in nineteen eighty four, again when
the game was not the game that it was today.
(34:59):
Dan Fouts is the next closest from the nineteen hundreds
carry to have a season where he threw for forty
eight hundred yards in nineteen eighty one. That's best for
thirty four. The top thirty three single season passing seasons
have all come from two thousand and seven on. So
from the last eighteen years, the top thirty three passing
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seasons in the NFL, thirty two of them have been
within the last eighteen years. Only Dan Marinos in nineteen
eighty four stands alone. So you want to talk about
playing a different game, yep, and the numbers and so
you go back to that season in nineteen eighty four,
I mean, it's just and with only with only five
hundred and sixty four attempts that season of what that
(35:42):
could have been, and.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
That's thirty five attempts a game for that amount of
yardage and that amount of testdowns, It's ridiculous. You have
Mark Clayton and Mark and Duper. I mean, I want
to go back and look at some of those allies
now and some of that film and just see what
they were doing, because it's they were ahead of their
time for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, I.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Think this makes the point that you were making twenty
minutes ago, which is this, we want our heroes to
have that record. If Tua breaks that record, all the
Dan Marino fans and Dolphin fans, I think would be
so upset, and it would just be because of the
seventeenth game, right, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yes, and then them throwing on every single down, which
it seems like, I mean bratty. At one hundred and
sixty more passes than Marino had in his season, that
would feel like it's four more games, right, and there
was only one, so it's like it's a different game
and it's a different schedule. But this is yeah, this
was this was amazing. This is only two thousand and seven.
(36:41):
We're talking about that of the of the years that
go back, so within the last eighteen years, it's crazy.
All you see is like twenty twenty one, twenty thirteen,
twenty sixteen, twenty nineteen. Oh there's Dan Fouts. Oh there's
Dan Marino. He's carry roads. I'm Dan Beyer. How OBJ
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Carrie.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
I feel it just needs to be said. There's a
huge podcast dropping in two hours. We'll get to that.
But I never root for injury, So I don't want
anybody to think that we're happy anybody is injured. That
is not the case. Never against shad or Sanders, never
against them. It stinks that he got dinged up in
practice today and the Heck's buyer. I feel like I
(00:39):
need to say that because the whole issue with Shadoor
was perception is reality, Right, That's the perception is reality.
That's what I'm saying. There's a perception that I'm against
shaudor Sanders. That is not the case. It is one
hundred percent not the case, but I still need to
fight against it. Anyway. That's where we start today on
this Wednesday. And there's a perception and that Travis Kelce
(01:00):
may have lost the step. Yeah, he's fighting back from
that perception. We dive in, welcome in. He is the
all pro. I'm Dan byersitting in for Covino and Rich
who were in for Dan Patrick earlier.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Today. Jason Stewart is here. Hello everybody.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Hello, he's our executive producer today. Ryan Smith is at
the board. What's going on? Papa Bear?
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Hello? Hello?
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And Chris Proffetts set the news desk. Hi, Hello, Chris.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Hello? All right? You good?
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Everything's set? With your your mic because I know you
want to weigh in on the pod that's about to
drop and Travis Kelsey's upcoming season a lot to prove
for the three time Super Bowl champion one hundred.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
That part is coming.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
But I just want to let everybody know, like off
the air, he has his Witches brew going, he has
a smoke he has to say, he's going, you know,
wishing that's to do it with nom joking, He's He's
not doing that at all. He's definitely just dropping good takes.
And I know everybody's been up in arms about that
the last couple of days. But no, I mean it's
so much going on. No, this tra his stuff and
you know, as a player back in the day, like
(02:03):
you really had to focus on your craft, like that
was a big thing. If you had anything that was
going on outside of the game, it was always kind
of like frowned upon.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You know, the job is the job.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
We're here to be the best version of the football
player that we can be, right, And then you start
getting endorsements, you get a little you know, you get
a little fame, and you start getting a little notoriety,
and obviously for your own personal reasons, you know, you
go after those things.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
I think, you know, the team always wants you to.
Speaker 5 (02:30):
Talk about the team, yes, and talk about what's going
on day to day there and how you're getting better
and how the team's getting better. But again, like this,
you know, this career the NFL is such a short one,
so you want to maximize your window, so doing other things.
When I think the season is over, I feel it's
perfectly fine. But when it bleeds into what's going on
(02:51):
throughout the year and you know, day to day stuff,
that becomes a problem. And I think for Travis this
is only just an excuse. I mean, obviously he's older,
he has lost the step and you know, you know,
the game changes, the game catches up to the greatest,
the greatest of who's ever done it, and he's one
of those guys that can be in that same categories
one of the greatest tight ends I've ever done it.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Well, well, let me just quick just interrupt, because I
just want people to understand essentially where we're talking what
we're talking about here. Travis Kelcey spoke with GQ and said, quote,
I think it might have slipped a little bit because
that did have a little more focus in trying to
set myself up. And he's talking about losing focus from
(03:35):
the football field because of other off field opportunities that
came up. Said opportunities came up quote where I was
excited to venture into a new world of acting and
being an entertainer. Shot up, was the host of a
Amazon series during the off season, appeared in an FX
series as well, talking about all of the other things
(03:56):
that happened outside of football, and says that he they
have lost his focus looking at those things, which is
a reason why he had a dip in his numbers
these past couple of seasons. So that's what Travis Kelcey
ended up saying the GQ. Sorry I interrupted, but just
wanted to set the scene so we can debate time
where Travis Kelsey is.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Yeah, no question not.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
I mean I probably jumped the gun a little bit
on that, but you know, it's it's that, right, like
being a player and really concentrating on getting better at
your craft and your job is always party number one.
But when you step outside and do other things that
you know can expand your career post football, I'm always
on board for that. But when you when it bleeds
into the team, bleeds into your performance, that becomes the issue.
(04:36):
But the issue isn't that for Travis Kelce In my opinion,
it's just that he's lost a step.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And again, like you, it happens naturally.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
It's part of the old adage that you know, nobody's
nobody beats Father time, right, and that's what's happening here.
It's not about him having a terrible gig on FX
and doing a bad job, and it's you know, it's
even though it's fun and he's done a great job
of actual putting themselve out there, this isn't the issue, Dan,
and I hate when people make excuses like that. Yes,
(05:05):
just say I'm gonna you know, the last two seasons
were down years, and that's part of being a professional
as well. I've had down years and you bounce back
and you come back and do what you can for
your team. And I think that's what he should be
talking about more.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think there's a couple of different levels to this
Travis Kelcey conversation, and just the first of which is
the stat line. So over the last two years he
is not top one thousand yards. In twenty twenty three,
if he played in every game played in fifteen of
the seventeen probably would have had nine hundred and eighty
four yards, but just five touchdowns that year. Last year,
playing in sixteen games, targets were down, receptions were down
(05:39):
eight hundred and twenty three yards and just three touchdowns.
And what I find here is what they're trying to
find here, What is the reality of this, because not
only is it the number sliding, you're saying that Father
Time is unbeaten. And then now you have another angle
(05:59):
of it of his effort into this. In Super Bowl
fifty nine against the Eagles. Yeah, something we've talked about,
which I think was on clear display for hundreds of
millions to see that there just wasn't There was there
was something missing, something wasn't there in Super Bowl fifty nine.
So Kelsey goes on to tell GQ Magazine, I have
such motivation to show up this year for my guys.
(06:20):
I don't say this is I shouldn't have done it,
meaning the other off field stuff. I'm just saying that
my work ethic is such that I have so much
pride in how I do things that I never want
the product to tail off. And I feel like these
past two years haven't been to my standard, and that
maybe how he feels. And sometimes you're the last one
to know yes, yes, right, yes, And I'm wondering if
(06:42):
that's the case with Travis Kelcey. But this is what
I think is interesting because our executive producer Jason Stewart,
who unlike you carry has not played in the NFL,
but he had a different opinion on what Travis Kelcey
was saying or not saying in here. And Jason, your explanation,
(07:03):
in your words, how you put what Kelsey did here
with GQ Magazine was what.
Speaker 6 (07:07):
I think that only a guy that's already had his
career could say this like the balls of somebody to
say in GQ to your fans that maybe something was
distracting me from doing the ultimate thing last year and
win in a Super Bowl. You can't a first or
second year player can't admit this. Even a midstream player
(07:30):
can't admit this. So I kind of admire it for
being refreshing that you just don't hear people admit to this.
You know for a fact that it has happened in
other cases, but they never admit it. In fact, they
emphatically deny it and they get offended by it. So
that was kind of my takeaway. It's either refreshing to
hear or if I'm a Chiefs fan, that's kind of
(07:52):
a punch in the gut a little bit, is it not?
Speaker 5 (07:55):
If it was year five Travis Kelsey who's coming off
a Pro Bowl and in year six out of day,
that would make more sense to me, like it would
be a valid option for him to go that route.
Him going that route when we know that he's telling
off and he's done, you know, it's just, yeah, that
part just doesn't It doesn't ring true to me at all.
(08:16):
It feels like something that's trying to buffer the last
two years, which I don't know why he would do that.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
I would rather say if this is a weird pride thing.
And that's why I side with what you're saying. Not
that I'm against what Jason says, but I think that
you're you're on target with what he says. It's easier
to say I just I didn't try, rather than to say, like,
I don't have it if I don't have it anymore.
And the reason why maybe he can say that is
because he did have it at one time or is
(08:43):
someone who didn't ever have it. You really can't take
any stock into what you're saying. So the fact that
we're even considering it shows you what Travis Kelcey accomplished
throughout his career. But I think that your point is
exactly right. The we want to know if all right,
the is it the old friend now fiance that's the
biggest pop star in the world. Well, I think that's
(09:05):
the rumors, right, That's that's the whole deal. Maybe we'll
find out in two hours as they're dropping albums and
everything of the New Heights podcast. But all of that
is going on, but he's going to point to these
other things. So it's not the relationship, it's not the play,
it's not it's not me wearing down as a player
and just getting older. It's FX and it's the Amazon
(09:26):
Game show and it's all of that stuff. And I
think that's that's easy to point to.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
The The thing.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
That just makes me laugh about this whole thing is
this isn't to Diana Rossini of The Athletic, this isn't
to ESPN. This is the GQ magazine. Okay, so this
is like, this is like, guess what I'm done doing
nudes to Playgirl magazine. Like that's what that's what it
(09:56):
would be. I'm not gonna eat meat anymore. To Carnivor's
own that, like that's the like, that's what he's doing.
He's like, I've lost my way in speaking the GQ.
Speaker 7 (10:05):
Magazine like like this is this is the Like that's
the part. Also, I'm going to you and going to
your side and being like, yeah, like I don't think
that you truly believe any.
Speaker 4 (10:17):
Of of that other stuff. I think you don't want
to believe that you lost a step.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
And it's easy to point to that other stuff. And
by the way, more more power to you if you
can be the cover person on GQ. I'm not I'm
just it's funny to me to sit there and to
read an article in GQ about how committed Travis Kelcey
is the football?
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Am I wrong? Like like this is?
Speaker 4 (10:42):
That's the part that it just it made me chuckle
because that's not necessarily where I thought I would I
would be able to read that sort of artist.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
So, Dan, you're trying to say GQ doesn't put out
legit articles.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
What are you doing and going on saying is that
your interests are in other areas and GQ magazine is
probably one of those areas.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's a terrible cover too. Right away, I'm sorry, I'm
kind of hating. I'm kind of hating fir coat. Yeah,
it was like a like a bare head on top
of his head or something.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Was it? Was it that extreme? Or am I exaggerated?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
I thought it was some fir thing. I didn't get
the whole, the whole sort of deal I was. I
didn't see the entire picture. But he was brooding. He
had a brooding look on his face. It was crazy, man.
But again, listen to listen to this right So, the
greatest of all time. He was filming a movie, an
animated movie that was one of the biggest movies at
the time, Michael Jordan, right, while also preparing for a
(11:37):
season where they came back and won a championship and
they had the best team, the best record up until
the Golden State Wars came and booked that record. They
won seventy two games. He filmed the movie, he actually
set his workout schedule early in the morning. He would
get his work out in early in the morning. So
as far as being able to do both, in general,
it can be done. So that's not an excuse.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Number one, Like if he can to go out and
film a whole movie where he's in the whole movie
and he's carrying the movie Michael Jordan, workout, play games
after filming, and then do it all over again the
next day. Like there's no reason for any player to
say that something else got in the way when you
committed to which you committed to. And so you know
he's been committed to football. If he wasn't, andy read
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wouldn't allow him to play or be a part of
what's going on. Like and it reads the old school culture,
you know what I mean. Like, so that stuff doesn't
even I don't get with that at all. And so
when you just can't like take what the real the
realism of all of this and say, you know what, again,
I'm getting older, I gotta find new ways to get
open and help my team win. I think that would
have been the better thing for me to hear.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
I love when bands admit their album's stunk, right like
when when it bobs like that.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
You'll hear that and it may be in.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
To promote the next album, but they'll just be like, yeah,
we just it wasn't It wasn't there. They look back
and say it was missing there. There was just something
wasn't And maybe in this time with Travis Kelsey look
back and say that if he has a great year
and that will be the problem. But again, I think
I'm leaning more towards towards where you are and that
he doesn't have it because also in this piece with GQ,
(13:12):
it focused on how he's prepping for the upcoming season
and has added a new a speed coach, a speed
and agility coach to his repertoire, and so he's been
working out in Florida And the point that was made
as part of this article is that Travis Kelcey is
the most effective when he's running between twelve and sixteen
(13:34):
miles per hour. Now, this isn't meant to get into
the weeds. It's just that if he runs full speed,
nineteen miles per hour was a top speed they had
clocked him at in a Super Bowl. He does not
have the ability then to move his body and elude
defenders like he would normally do. And I'm curious as
a player like you hear that Travis Kelcey at times
(13:56):
looks slow on the field, like just like maybe it's
because he's so massive in a certain way, but also
now it's like, is he not going to full He's
not going full speed. Do you think that's a cover
up for him losing a step or do you think
that that is an actual excuse? Is someone who's spent
eight years in the National Football League when we have
a speed coach? Is that is that bologne? Or is
that something that we could legitimately take up and say, Okay,
(14:20):
that's a legitimate, legitimate thing that Travis Kelsey does when
he plays.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
No, it's blooney. How many tight ends are out running
anybody anyway? You're not out running corners because because he's
such a good player, you're going to put probably one
of your best cover guys on him. So he's never
beaten anybody with speed. He's beaten him with positioning, he's
beaten him with the christness that he runs his routes,
and that part of it is just not there right now.
(14:46):
He can't get in and out of breaks, click identifying defenses.
He will always know, but that's part of it. Is
not straight straight ahead speed anyway.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
Ever, that's very interesting, Yeah, because that's what they're saying here,
is that when he's running at twelve to sixteen, he
has more ability to move and elude defenders, and he
can separate from a linebacker at that speed.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
He doesn't need to be at.
Speaker 4 (15:05):
Nineteen miles per hour. But it seems like it's more
trying to add to a narrative that he hasn't lost
a stet.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
The pr span is impeccable right now with no, you're right,
you're one hundred percent. That's all I hear, if that's
what it is.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Yeah, and I just point to the fact of the
two years ago when on a bye week he flew
to South America to see Taylor Swift in concert. Yeah,
and I know that's not brought up. I have actually
have no problem with him doing an off season TV show. No,
Jordan is like the one of one of doing what
he and there's really nobody else that can do that,
(15:37):
even other players. I'll bring up shud Or Sanders. Shod
Or Sanders wants to work on music in his downtime
when he's sitting at home and done with practice. Go
right ahead, now, we don't want you to play twelve
hours of call of duty like Kyler Murray, you know,
supposedly used to. I don't think that's a great use
of time, but you do have to have an escape.
You do have a Tuesday off day. I hate comparing
real world to your world of an athlete, like the
(15:59):
nine to five months through Friday job or the factory job.
I hate comparing it to professional athletes. But it's the
same way. If we're going to be critical of an
athlete doing something, we'd have to be critical of somebody
going somewhere on a Saturday or Sunday on their week off.
Like it's just at some point you need some escape.
Even if you're you're in a season, and granted you
have an off season, but your off season isn't like
an offseason. You have mini camps and the whole deal.
(16:21):
So that's why I just I don't love to compare
the two, but it just seems like they're picking spots
of the TV show, the game show, and nothing else
around it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
That's what it is.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
But all that's off season stuff, and to me, I
don't think that would affect it. But also like when
you're just looking at this world here that does the
game show in August or July of twenty twenty four,
June of twenty twenty four, does that come back February
twenty twenty five when you're not putting forth the effort
in the Super Bowl? Does does it go through weeks
(16:54):
one through eighteen at that point? I don't think it does.
I just, yeah, I agree with you. I think that
this is kind of a cover up, if you will,
on what the real problem is with Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
And it doesn't come off. It doesn't come off great.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like again, yes, you want to be forward and up
right and up forth and have that type of energy,
but again, some things are better left un said.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
We already kind of know the answer to.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
That, don't you think, though, I mean, and I'm starting
to I'm starting to kind of agree with with your
side of this here, but there's don't you agree it's
a strange way to cover something up by welcoming a
whole new thing of criticism, Like I know, going on GQ,
if you're saying that he's speaking to a certain audience
and that maybe maybe we over here wouldn't have gotten
(17:39):
the information. But it just seems like he's welcoming a
whole batch of criticism by admitting to being distracted to
an entire fan base who is trying to win a
third straight Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
We all know someone who loves to admit when they're
wrong because they get the soft landing. Someone says, you know,
I messed up. I can't do that again. What is
your natural response? Hey man, they'll be so hard on yourself,
like you've done a really good job. It's an actual
tactic that I think that people will use, where they
(18:11):
will admit what they want to admit is wrong. And
I think that's part of it, is he doesn't want
to admit that he lost a step or he doesn't
want to admit and I don't think his relationship had
anything to do with it. I don't think he should
have gone to South America on a bye week. But
then the NFL is like, well, to cover it up,
we'll send teams to South America. You know, I'm just kidding,
but I don't like those areas aren't being touched. He's
(18:32):
pointed to two off season entities of acting on TV
that I think are easy to point to exactly, and
then when you say, guess what, I lost a step,
then you're like, you know what, man, you help us
win three super Bowls. I can't wait for the upcoming season.
Instead of being like, why have you slacked off these
last three years? Why are you just riding into the sunset.
(18:53):
They try to take control of the narrative by admitting
they're wrong, but they only want to admit what they
want to admit because then they know the other parties
will respond in that way.
Speaker 5 (19:04):
Jay, STU, think about this, Out of those three things
that we just talked about, the TV show, the hosting gig,
and not being able to do it anymore, which one
is worse? Which one is worse from the standpoint of
a fan base? Yeah, like, what's more of an indictment?
Speaker 1 (19:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (19:21):
I guess out of those three, the last one you
mentioned exactly, And he didn't mention that one, So that
tells me what it is right there, Those are the blame.
That's why he didn't. It's that TV show, which is
why he only had eight hundred and twenty three yards.
Imagine telling you your fan base, Dan and your teammates,
I can't do it anymore, but I'm coming out here
again for year seventeen or whatever it is. Right, Yeah,
(19:43):
that would be even more selfish any other things.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
That's an interesting way to put it.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
And again, doesn't seem like the Chiefs have ever planned
for this for the next era of Travis kelcey And
though they've had a couple of guys. Noah Gray is
in there as a possibility, but you know there was.
They're a team that could use that next era tight
end and they haven't moved on from it necessarily. And
they've tried to get outside guys to help to help
(20:09):
Patrick Mahomes. Maybe they need somebody that's like Travis kelce
to help hear those offensive.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
Got a question for you, Dan, what if? What if?
Speaker 5 (20:19):
What if he wasn't with Taylor Swift right now? Would
they still have him on a team after the last
two years in his performance in.
Speaker 4 (20:23):
Yes, Yes, I do think, yes, right, I don't think
that Taylor Swift has that much power. Again, he won,
he won Super Bowls before he met on Taylor Swift. Sure,
so like in the reason and that's probably you know,
it helps it helps me. Travis Kelce like, I get
all of that. So there's just a lot of equity
in there, and there are probably very few people that
(20:44):
can say what he said. It's just do you believe
what he's actually saying?
Speaker 1 (20:48):
For sure?
Speaker 4 (20:48):
We'll find out over eighteen weeks, starting the week of
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Speaker 4 (21:19):
Chris Quick Question before you Yeah, please step away. Barry
Sanders retires in nineteen ninety eight. A shock to the
Lions fans as part of that retirement.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
We go back a long long ways.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Do Lions fans miss Barry Sanders not continuing his career?
Are they resentment? Is there any resentment at all that
he didn't become the all time leading rusher? If we
can just take a look at the Lions fans' minds
when it comes to Barry Sanders' retirements, where do they sit?
Even though it happened twenty five years ago, so it.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Is a long time ago. I don't think there's a
lot of resentment, partly because I think what happens after
a career, once some time has passed, is whether or
not you decide to stand in good graces with the team.
And for Barry Sanders, he's always on the sideline with
the Lions. He's become something of an ambassador for the team.
He's always representing them, doing interviews and appearing before major games.
(22:11):
The Lions, especially with when the ownership flipped over to
Sheila hamp has really taken a hard policy of making
sure all the legends come back. I think there was
some resentment, a lot of resentment with like Megatron, with
Calvin Johnson when he left because there was the whole
you know, million dollars on the table. Still that was
a big sticking point. But you know, I think there
(22:32):
was a lot of reconciliation, but the first one to
really have that, you know, embrace the Lions coming back
was Barry Sanders. So if there's anyone still complaining about
Barry Sanders among Lions fans, they're like the oldest of
old heads. I think most people see him as the
Lions legend unequivocally.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
The reason I bring it up is because Barry Sanders
was on his way to being the all time leading
rusher in the NFL and was going to set that
record if you would have played a couple of more seasons.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Emmett Smith ultimately left.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
The game two thousand and four with over eighteen thy
three hundred yards, but when Barry Sanders left in nineteen
ninety eight, he had fifteen two hundred and sixty nine
yards and was fifteen hundred yards shy of Walter Payton's record,
So would have been Barry Sanders, and Barry Sanders may
still be the leading rushing or leading running back or
for rushing yards today if he would have continued to
(23:20):
play in his career. That's why I started and why
I asked the question to Chris is that would also
be a Lions record, right like that would be a
record embraced by the city. Cal Raley is on the
verge of breaking a lot of records for the Seattle
Mariners right now he is. He's just shy of the
pace to break Aaron Judge's record of sixty two American
(23:44):
League home runs. Right now, he's on pace for sixty one.
So they're saying the likelihood of breaking in of sixty
three or more is thirty eight point five percent. That's
according to bet online right now. Will he break the record? Yes,
is plus one twenty. No is minus one six. That's
for Judges sixty two. However, this was the one that
(24:04):
I thought was interesting. Will cal Raley break King Griffy
Junior's Mariner's single season home run record of fifty six
seventy one percent? Chance study will is he has forty
five home runs right now with forty two games left
minus two point fifty Yes, No, plus one seventy. Cal
Raley is having a magnificent season. If you're a Mariners fan,
(24:26):
do you want cal Raley to have that record or
King Griffyd Junior to have that record.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
As a Mariner fan, that's a that's a hard one, Dan.
I think that the sweetest swinging lefty ever and just
the name recognition, the father dynamic as well, just the
lure that the Griffies have.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That'd be a tough one to break.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
Yes, I agree to break, and it's why I brought
it up because it's not meant to disrespect cal Rally
in any way. But there is something about Ken gri
who was every kid's favorite player. I feel like of
my age and growing up because he's just he had
everything and he is, you know, so much of that organization.
Even though he left for a couple of years to
(25:12):
play for the Reds, it's still they have Ken Grafree
Junior have your single season home run mark. I think
is pretty special. And it's not that the Mariners again
would cheer against cal ralely right, but I think that
there are records sometimes that you just don't want to
have broken. Roger marris Is broke a record of sixty
(25:33):
one when McGuire and Sosa and everybody were chasing it,
and while there were steroid thoughts, maybe at that time
that something was going on, there was still a group
of people that didn't want sixty one broken and that
they wanted that number to stay. And it's since been
broken by McGuire and Sosa and then obviously Bonds after that,
you know, ended up seventy three. And why Judge is
(25:53):
now sixty two is looked at as such a unique
number because he didn't pass Bonds a single season. But
you and say that it's an American League record. I
just think the thought process of breaking records and who
you want to have those records is trickier than you
would think on the surface. And I would just think
as a Mariners fan, to have Ken Griffy Junior hold
(26:14):
that single season record, I think that they would they
would want Ken Griffy Junior to still have that.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
I could be completely off base.
Speaker 4 (26:22):
I'm not a Mariners fan, but I think it's a
record that you would say, maybe I don't want that
one to be broken.
Speaker 5 (26:27):
Yeah, get close to a col don't break it, just
get really close, like have have the end of the
season be a little countdown that you know he might
possibly do it, or he's on the brink of doing it.
But yeah, being the flag bearer for the Mariners having
that guy be Ken Griffy Junior, it's a big deal win.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
A World series could make up for it. Jason Stewart,
our executive producer.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I think Roger Morris is like the perfect example here
because the people that at the time complained that Roger
Morris was just kind of this like Johnny come Lately,
who hadn't had a great yank your career they played
I think they I want to say, they expanded to
one hundred and sixty two games, so the whole asterisk
took place and it held up. By the way, the
(27:11):
criticism of Roger Merris building up to that sixty one
season has held up. He didn't he did not have
a great career afterwards. That was kind of like his
one off, And I think that's the criticism of cal
Rawley's season. We don't know yet if he's going to
have other years like this. This could be his one season.
(27:32):
We knew Ken Griffy was amazing, he was a Hall
of Famer. He's the natural. So I think that's what
you're speaking to, like, we want, we want our heroes
to have these records, not just kind of like Johnny
cum Lately who had one great year.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a big part
of it, and it's also just of who Ken Griffy
Junior is and what he meant to that franchise, into
that team and to to all of us. I actually
think the worst case scenario would be Rally to break
fifty six but not get to Judges sixty two, so
(28:04):
to be in that sweet spot, which by the way,
seems like where he's gonna land in his home run
total if he goes on a tear. Now there's others.
Mickey Mantle, as a switch hitter, hit the most home
runs in a single season that was fifty four. There's
an eighty seven and a half percent likelihood according to
bent Online, that he breaks that number. As for Bonds's
mark of seventy three, right now, it's plus two thousand
(28:25):
and a long shot twenty to one. Current odds are
less than five percent that Roley would be able to
hit seventy three, hit forty five with forty two to go.
That seems very unlikely. But if you were to fall
short of Judge, like if you were to break Judges
record and I have sixty three, then I think now
we've really developed a new star in Major League Baseball,
because now your name is attached to that record. But
(28:46):
if he was in between, if he would broke Griffy's
record but didn't get to judges. To Jason's point of
us not knowing like what cal Rawley's career is going
to be or the rest of it's going to be,
I think there would be some unhappy people. It's not
that I don't want records broken, but it's just the
fact of certain records. It's why I just thought with
with Barry Sanders, if Barry Sanders breaks the rushing record,
(29:09):
it's not just Barry Sanders record, it's the entire city
of Detroit's record, it's the Lions record, it's probably the
State of Michigan's record. So like those things come with
those sort of marks. And that's why I think where
cal Raley is right now, he's in an interesting spot
because there could be some history on its side, but
he also could have the best player in franchise history.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
Maybe move aside. Jason, I was thinking about this.
Speaker 6 (29:32):
So I grew up with an on the I mean,
I have a bunch of family on the East Coast,
or just big Johnny Uniteds people yeah, like you don't know,
Johnny United Us. To a lot of people of a
certain age, is like their hero. And then you're thinking,
who holds the Colts single season record for passing? Peyton
probably holds it, and that's fine, Peyton holding it, but
(29:53):
Andrew luck is the single season? Is that good?
Speaker 1 (29:56):
Is that Okay?
Speaker 6 (29:57):
If you're a diehard Colts fan from way back.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Hey what you got? Damn?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
I No, I would say no, like you don't want
like then you just then you just say you chalk
it up to well, that's just today's that's just today's NFL.
But there's something historic about it. Even though we all
remember Ken Garyfid junior playing, it's been a while, spent
a little while, so there's some there's some history, there's
some nostalgia with it. And to that, like even if
(30:25):
Peyton Manning had the record, you could say, yeah, and
it's not as much about Lu's decision, but yet it
is you didn't want to play anymore, right and was
at that level and maybe could have been a great
So you feel a little empty with that feeling. Yeah,
I think there's absolutely something to that.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
That's funny.
Speaker 5 (30:40):
Johnny, You Johnny you went to the University of Where
that's right, that's right statue in the end zone or
do they move it.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
I know they've renovated it, like you know twenty times.
Speaker 5 (30:49):
It's still there. Lamars is inside. But here's a steal
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(32:11):
We'll get to that in a second. But Carry and
I were talking during the break on this record's conversation
that we had just talked about with cal Raley coming
close to possibly breaking on track to break Ken Griffey
Junior's team record for home runs for the Mariners and
a little just slightly off the pace to break Aaron
Judge's American League record of sixty two home runs in
(32:33):
the season, and Johnny Unitas was brought up by Jason
Stewart and talking about the Colts. But it's your point
is it's very difficult to talk about Johnny Unitas as
a passer considering the eras that Luck, Andrew Luck and
Peyton Manning played yes, And so the conversation then turned
to it's what made Dan Marinos nineteen eighty four season,
(32:58):
So such a rarity, which I think if it was
today with inflation, it would probably be about seven thousand yards.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
It's be ridiculous and it would.
Speaker 4 (33:08):
Yeah, And in that season Marino, who by the way,
the five and eighty four yards is twelfth best all
time now for a single season passing yarded season, we've
now expanded seventeen games, you know, game more than he played.
Not everybody Peyton Manning and others did theirs in sixteen
games as well. But Carrie wanted to know the attempts.
(33:31):
Why were the attempts so interesting to you for what
Marino had.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
Because obviously in today's game, the number of attempts they're
going to be higher, And so I wanted to see
where he stood when it came to his attempts in
that season because it just wasn't part of the NFL
as far as opening up the way they do now.
Speaker 4 (33:51):
Yes, and so the number of attempts that Dan Marino
had in that season in nineteen eighty four were five
hundred and sixty four. Right, I asked you carry former
All Pro safety who spent eight years in the league,
where he thought that ranked all time in attempts and
where do you think it ranks?
Speaker 5 (34:11):
And I said somewhere around forty okay, forty eight on
that list, But it seems like it's.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
It's Dan Marino's five hundred and sixty four attempts that
season are tied with Trevor Lawrence of the Jaguars for
one hundred and seventy ninth all time. So there were
one hundred and seventy eight quarterbacks in a season that
have thrown more passes in a season than Dan Marino
threw in that season.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Tom Brady had the record through seven hundred and thirty
three passes in two thousand and two through twenty twenty two.
Excuse me with the Buccaneers. The reason as well why
Marino's numbers are so crazy is Marino threw for five
thou eighty four yards in nineteen eighty four, again when
the game was not the game that it was today.
(34:59):
Dan Fouts is the next closest from the nineteen hundreds
carry to have a season where he threw for forty
eight hundred yards in nineteen eighty one. That's best for
thirty four. The top thirty three single season passing seasons
have all come from two thousand and seven on. So
from the last eighteen years, the top thirty three passing
(35:22):
seasons in the NFL, thirty two of them have been
within the last eighteen years. Only Dan Marinos in nineteen
eighty four stands alone. So you want to talk about
playing a different game, yep, and the numbers and so
you go back to that season in nineteen eighty four,
I mean, it's just and with only with only five
hundred and sixty four attempts that season of what that
(35:42):
could have been, and.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
That's thirty five attempts a game for that amount of
yardage and that amount of testdowns, It's ridiculous. You have
Mark Clayton and Mark and Duper. I mean, I want
to go back and look at some of those allies
now and some of that film and just see what
they were doing, because it's they were ahead of their
time for sure.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Jason Stewart, our executive producer, I.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
Think this makes the point that you were making twenty
minutes ago, which is this, we want our heroes to
have that record. If Tua breaks that record, all the
Dan Marino fans and Dolphin fans, I think would be
so upset, and it would just be because of the
seventeenth game, right, yes, yes.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yes, and then them throwing on every single down, which
it seems like, I mean bratty. At one hundred and
sixty more passes than Marino had in his season, that
would feel like it's four more games, right, and there
was only one, so it's like it's a different game
and it's a different schedule. But this is yeah, this
was this was amazing. This is only two thousand and seven.
(36:41):
We're talking about that of the of the years that
go back, so within the last eighteen years, it's crazy.
All you see is like twenty twenty one, twenty thirteen,
twenty sixteen, twenty nineteen. Oh there's Dan Fouts. Oh there's
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