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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 3 (00:16):
On the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. Carrie, I feel
it just needs to be said. There's a huge podcast
dropping in two hours. We'll get to that. But I
never root for injuries, So I don't want anybody to
think that we're happy anybody is injured. That is not
the case. Never against Shad or Sanders, never against them.

(00:36):
It stinks that he got dinged up in practice today,
Dan the Heck's Buyer, I feel like I need to
say that because the whole issue with Shador was perception
is reality, Right, That's the perception is reality. That's what
I'm saying. There's a perception that I'm against shaudor Sanders.
That is not the case. It is one hundred percent
not the case, but I still need to fight against it. Anyway.

(00:59):
That's where we start today, on this Wednesday, And there's
a perception that Travis Kelce may have lost the step. Yeah,
he's fighting back from that perception. We dive in, welcome in.
He is the all pro. I'm Dan byersitting in for
Cavino and Rich who were in for Dan Patrick earlier. Today.
Jason Stewart is here. Hello everybody. Hello, he's our executive

(01:19):
producer today. Ryan Smith is at the board. What's going on?
Papa Bear? Hello? Hello? And Chris Burfetts set the news
deesk Hi Hello, Chris Hello? All right? You good? Everything's set?
With your your mic because I know you want to
weigh in on the pod that's about to drop and
Travis Kelsey's upcoming season a lot to prove for the

(01:41):
three time Super Bowl champion, one hundred percent that part
is coming.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
But I just want to let everybody know, like off
the air, he has his Witches brew going, he has
a smoke he has to say. He's going, you know,
wishing to to do it with nom joking. He's not
doing that at all. He's definitely just dropping good takes.
And I know everybody's been up in arms about that
the last couple of days, but no, I mean it's
so much going on, you know, this Travis stuff, and
you know, as a player back in the day, like

(02:06):
you really had to focus on your craft, like that
was a big thing. If you had anything that was
going on outside of the game, it was always kind
of like frowned upon.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
You know, the job is the job.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
We're here to be the best version of the football
player that we can be, right, And then you start
getting endorsements, you get a little you know, you get
a little fame, and you start getting a little notoriety,
and obviously for your own personal reasons, you know, you
go after those things. I think, you know, the team
always wants you to talk about the team, yes, and
talk about what's going on day to day there and

(02:36):
how you're getting better and how the team's getting better.
But again, like this, you know, this career, the NFL
is such a short one, so you want to maximize
your window, so doing other things. When I think the
season is over, I feel it's perfectly fine. But when
it bleeds into what's going on throughout the year and
you know, day to day stuff, that becomes a problem.

(02:57):
And I think for Travis this is only just the
I mean, obviously he's older, he has lost the step
and you know, you know, the game changes, the game
catches up to the greatest, the greatest of who've ever
done it, and he's one of those guys that can
be in that same categories, one of the greatest tight
ends I've ever done it.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Well, let me just quick just interrupt, because I just
want people to understand essentially where we're talking what we're
talking about here. Travis Kelcey spoke with GQ and said, quote,
I think it might have slipped a little bit because
that did have a little more focus in trying to
set myself up. And he's talking about losing focus from

(03:37):
the football field because of other off field opportunities that
came up. Said opportunities came up quote where I was
excited to venture into a new world of acting and
being an entertainer. Shot up, was the host of a
Amazon series during the offseason, appeared in an FX series
as well, talking about all of the other things that

(03:59):
happened outside of football, and says that he may have
lost his focus looking at those things, which is a
reason why he had a dip in his numbers these
past couple of seasons. So that's what Travis kelce ended
up saying the GQ. Sorry I interrupted, but just wanted
to set the scene, so we can debate time where
Travis Kelsey is Yeah, no question not.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I mean I probably jumped the gun a little bit
on that, but you know, it's it's that, right, like
being a player and really concentrating on getting better at
your craft and your job is always party number one.
But when you step outside and do other things that
you know can expand your career post football, I'm always
on board for that. But when you when it bleeds
into the team, bleeds into your performance, that becomes the issue.

(04:39):
But the issue isn't that for Travis Kelcey in my opinion,
it's just that he's lost a step. And again, like you,
it happens naturally. It's part of the old addage that
you know, nobody's nobody beats Father time, right, and that's
what's happening here. It's not about him having a terrible
gig on FX and doing a bad job, and it's

(04:59):
you know, it's even though it's fun and he's done
a great job of actually putting himself out there, this
isn't the issue, Dan, and I hate when people make
excuses like that. Is just say I'm gonna you know, the
last two seasons were down years. And that's part of
being a professional as well. I've had down years and
you bounce back and you come back and do what
you can for your team. And I think that's what
he should be talking about more.

Speaker 3 (05:20):
I think there's a couple of different levels to this
Travis Kelcey conversation, and just the first of which is
the stat line. So over the last two years he
is not top the one thousand yards. In twenty twenty three,
if he played in every game played in fifteen of
the seventeen probably would have had nine hundred and eighty
four yards, but just five touchdowns that year. Last year,
playing in sixteen games, targets were down, receptions were down

(05:41):
eight hundred and twenty three yards, and just three touchdowns.
And what I find here is what they're trying to
find here, What is the reality of this, Because not
only is it the numbers sliding, you're saying that Father
Time is unbeaten. And then now you have another angle

(06:02):
of it of his effort into this. In Super Bowl
fifty nine against the Eagles. Yeah, something we've talked about,
which I think was on clear display for hundreds of
millions to see that there just wasn't There was there
was something missing, something wasn't there in Super Bowl fifty nine.
So Kelsey goes on to tell GQ Magazine, I have
such motivation to show up this year for my guys.

(06:23):
I don't say this is I shouldn't have done it,
meaning the other off field stuff. I'm just saying that
my work ethic is such that I have so much
pride in how I do things that I never want
the product to tail off. And I feel like these
past two years haven't been to my standard, and that
maybe how he feels. And sometimes you're the last one
to know yes, yes, right, yes, And I'm wondering if

(06:45):
that's the case with Travis Kelcey. But this is what
I think is interesting because our executive producer Jason Stewart,
who unlike you carry has not played in the NFL,
but he had a different opinion on what Travis Kelcey
was saying or not saying in here. And Jason, your explanation,

(07:05):
in your words, how you put what Kelsey did here
with GQ Magazine was what.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
I think that only a guy that's already had his
career could say this like the balls of somebody to
say in GQ to your fans that maybe something was
distracting me from doing the ultimate thing last year and
went in a Super Bowl. You can't a first or
second year player can't admit this. Even a midstream player

(07:33):
can't admit this. So I kind of admire it for
being refreshing that you just don't hear people admit to this.
You know for a fact that it has happened in
other cases, but they never admit it. In fact, they
emphatically deny it and they get offended by it. So
that was kind of my takeaway. It's either refreshing to
hear or if I'm a Chiefs fan, that's kind of

(07:55):
a punch in the gut a little bit, is it not?

Speaker 4 (07:58):
If it was year five Travis kel who's coming off
of Pro Bowl and then in you know, year sixy
had a down year, that would make more sense to me,
like it would be a valid option for him to
go that route. Him going that route when we know
that he's telling off and he's done, you know, it's just, yeah,
that part just doesn't It doesn't ring true to me

(08:18):
at all. It feels like something that's trying to buffer
the last two years, which I don't know why he
would do that.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
I would rather say this is a weird pride thing.
And that's why I side with what you're saying. Not
that I'm against what Jason says, but I think that
you're you're on target with what he says. It's easier
to say I just I didn't try, rather than to say, like,
I don't have it if I don't have it anymore.
And the reason why maybe he can say that is
because he did have it at one time, whereas someone

(08:46):
who didn't ever have it, you really can't take any
stock into what you're saying. So the fact that we're
even considering it shows you what Travis Kelcey accomplished throughout
his career. But I think that your point is exactly right.
The we want want to know if all right, is
it the is it the girlfriend now fiance that's the
biggest pop star in the world. Well, I think that's

(09:08):
the rumors, right, That's that's the whole deal. Maybe we'll
find out in two hours as they're dropping albums and
everything of the New Heights podcast. But all of that
is going on, but he's gonna point to these other things.
So it's not the relationship, it's not the play. It's
not it's not me wearing down as a player and
just getting older. It's FX and it's the Amazon Game

(09:29):
show and it's all of that stuff. And I think
that's that's easy to point to. The The thing that
just makes me laugh about this whole thing is this
isn't too Diana Rossini of The Athletic, This isn't to ESPN.
This is the GQ magazine. Okay, so this is like,

(09:53):
this is like, guess what I'm done doing nudes to
playgirl magazine. Like that's what that's what it would be.
I'm not going to eat meat anymore to carnivores. Only
that Like that's the like, that's what he's doing. He's like,
I've lost my way in speaking the GQ.

Speaker 6 (10:08):
Magazine like like this is this is the Like that's
the part. Also, I'm going to you and going to
your side and being like, yeah, like I don't think
that you truly believe any.

Speaker 3 (10:20):
Of of that other stuff. I think you don't want
to believe that you lost a step yep. And it's
easy to point to that other stuff. And by the way,
more more power to you if you can be the
cover person on GQ. I'm not. I'm just it's funny
to me to sit there and to read an article
in GQ about how committed Travis Kelce is the football?

(10:43):
Am I wrong? Like like this is? That's the part
that it just it made me chuckle because that's not
necessarily where I thought I would I would be able
to read that sort of artist.

Speaker 4 (10:53):
So, Dan, you're trying to say GQ doesn't put out
legit articles, what are you doing?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
What's going on saying is that your interests are in
other areas, and GQ magazine is probably one of those areas.
It's a terrible cover too.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Right away, I'm sorry, I'm kind of hating I'm kind
of hating coat. Yeah, it was a like a bare
head on top of his head or something.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
Was it? Was it that extreme? Or am I exaggerating?
I thought it was some fir thing. I didn't get
the whole, the whole sort of deal I was. I
didn't see the entire picture. But he was brooding. He
had a brooding look on his face.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
It was crazy, man. But again, listen to listen to
this right, So, the greatest of all time. He was
filming a movie, an animated movie that was one of
the biggest movies at the time, Michael Jordan, right, while
also preparing for a season where they came back and
won a championship and they had the best team, the

(11:43):
best record up until the Golden State Wars came and
broke that record. They won seventy two games. He filmed
the movie, he actually set his workout schedule early in
the morning. He would get his work out in early
in the morning. So as far as being able to
do both, in general, it can be done. So that's
not an excuse. Number one, Like if he can go
out and film a whole movie where he's in the

(12:05):
whole movie and he's carrying the movie Michael Jordan, workout,
play games after filming, and then do it all over
again the next day. Like there's no reason for any
player to say that something else got in the way
when you commit it to what you committed to. And
so you know he's been committed to football. If he wasn't,
Andy Reed wouldn't allow him to play or be a

(12:25):
part of what's going on.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Like and it reads the.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Old school coulture, you know what I mean, Like, so
that stuff doesn't even I don't get with that at all.
And so when you just can't like take what the
real the realism of all of this and say, you
know what, again, I'm getting older, I gotta find new
ways to get open and help my team win. I
think that would have been the better thing for me
to hear.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
I love when bands admit their album's stunk, right like
when when it bobs like that. You'll hear that and
it may be in to promote the next album, but
they'll just be like, yeah, we just it wasn't. It
wasn't there. They look back and say it was missing there.
There was just something wasn't And maybe in this time
with Travis Kelcey, he'll look back and say that if
he has a great year, and that will be the problem.

(13:06):
But again, I think I'm leaning more towards towards where
you are and that he doesn't have it because also
in this piece with GQ, it focused on how he's
prepping for the upcoming season and has added a a
speed coach, a speed and agility coach to his repertoire,
and so he's been working out in Florida and the

(13:29):
point that was made as part of this article is
that Travis Kelcey is the most effective when he's running
between twelve and sixteen miles per hour. Now, this isn't
meant to get into the weeds. It's just that if
he runs full speed, nineteen miles per hour was a
top speed they had clocked him at in a Super Bowl.
He does not have the ability then to move his

(13:49):
body and elude defenders like he would normally do. And
I'm curious as a player like you hear that Travis
Kelcey at times looks slow on the field, like just
like maybe it's because he's so massive in a certain way,
but also now it's like, is he not going to
full he's not going full speed. Do you think that's
a cover up for him losing a step or do

(14:10):
you think that that is an actual excuse? Is someone
who's spent eight years in the National Football League when
we have a speed coach? Is that is that bologney
or is that something that we could legitimately take up
and say, Okay, that's a legitimate, legitimate thing that Travis
Kelsey does when he plays. No, it's blooney.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
How many tight ends are out running anybody anyway? You're
not out running corners because because he's such a good player,
you're gonna put probably one of your best cover guys
on him. So he's never beaten anybody with speed, He's
beaten him with positioning, he's beaten him with the christness
that he runs his routes, and that part of it
is just not there right now. He can't get in

(14:49):
and out of breaks, click identifying defenses. He will always know,
but that's part of it. It is not straight straight
ahead speed anyway.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Ever. That's very interesting, Yeah, because that's what they're saying here,
is that when and he's running at twelve to sixteen,
he has more ability to move and elude defenders, and
he can separate from a linebacker at that speed. He
doesn't need to be at nineteen miles per hour. But
it seems like it's more trying to add to a
narrative that he hasn't lost a step. The pr span
is impeccable right now with no, you're right, you're one

(15:17):
hundred percent. That's all I hear, if that's what it is. Yeah,
And I just point to the fact of the two
years ago when on a bye week he flew to
South America to see Taylor Swift in concert. Yeah, and
I know that's not brought up. I have actually have
no problem with him doing an off season TV show. No,
Jordan is like the one of one of doing what
he and there's really nobody else that can do that.

(15:40):
Even other players will bring up Shudor Sanders Shore Sanders
wants to work on music in his downtime when he's
sitting at home and done with practice. Go right ahead, now,
we don't want you to play twelve hours of Call
of Duty like Kyler Murray, you know, supposedly used to.
I don't think that's a great use of time, but
you do have to have an escape. You do have
a Tuesday off day. I hate comparing real world to

(16:00):
your world of an athlete, like the nine to five
Monday through Friday job or the factory job. I hate
comparing it to professional athletes. But it's the same way.
If we're going to be critical of an athlete doing something,
we'd have to be critical of somebody going somewhere on
a Saturday or Sunday on their week off. Like it's
just at some point you need some escape. Even if
you're you're in a season, and granted you have an
off season, but your off season isn't like an offseason,

(16:22):
you have mini camps and the whole deal. So that's
why I just I don't love to compare the two,
but it just seems like they're picking spots of the
TV show, the game show, and nothing else around it.
That's what it is. But all that's off season stuff,
and to me, I don't think that would affect it.
But also like when you're just looking at this world

(16:43):
here that does the game show in August or July
of twenty twenty four, June of twenty twenty four, does
that come back February twenty twenty five when you're not
putting forth the effort in the Super Bowl? Does it
go through weeks one through eighteen at that point? I
don't think it does. Yeah, I agree with you. I
think that this is kind of a cover up, if

(17:06):
you will, on what the real problem is with Travis
Kelce and it doesn't come off. It doesn't come off great.
Like again, yes, you want to.

Speaker 4 (17:11):
Be forward and up right and up forth and have
that type of energy, but again, some things are better
left and said.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
We already kind of know the answer to.

Speaker 5 (17:20):
That, don't you think, though, I mean, and I'm starting
to I'm starting to kind of agree with your side
of this here, but there's don't you agree it's a
strange way to cover something up by welcoming a whole
new thing of criticism, Like I know, going on GQ,
if you're saying that he's speaking to a certain audience
and that maybe maybe we over here wouldn't have gotten

(17:41):
the information. But it just seems like he's welcoming a
whole batch of criticism by admitting to being distracted to
an entire fan base who is trying to win a
third straight Super Bowl.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Right. We all know someone who loves to admit when
they're wrong because they get the soft landing. Someone says,
you know what, I messed up. I can't do that again.
What is your natural response? Hey man, there'll be so
hard on yourself, like you've done a really good job.
It's an actual tactic that I think that people will use,

(18:14):
where they will admit what they want to admit is wrong.
And I think that's part of it is he doesn't
want to admit that he lost a step or he
doesn't want to admit and I don't think his relationship
had anything to do with it. I don't think he
should have gone to South America on a bye week.
But then the NFL is like, well, to cover it up,
we'll send teams to South America. You know, I'm just kidding,
but the I don't like those areas aren't being touched.

(18:34):
He's pointed to two off season entities of acting on
TV that I think are easy to point to, and
then when you say, guess what, I lost a step,
then you're like, you know what, man, you help us
win three super Bowls. I can't wait for the upcoming season.
Instead of being like, why have you slacked off these
last three years? Why are you just riding into the sunset.

(18:56):
They try to take control of the narrative by admitting
they're wrong, but they only want to admit what they
want to admit because then they know the other parties
will respond in that way.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Jay, STU, think about this. Out of those three things
that we just talked about, the TV show, the hosting gig,
and not being able to do it anymore, which one
is worse?

Speaker 5 (19:18):
Which one is worse from the standpoint of a fan base? Yeah, like,
what's more of an indictment?

Speaker 3 (19:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:25):
Out of those three, the last one you mentioned exactly,
and he didn't mention that one, So that tells me
what it is right.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
There, those are the blame. That's why he didn't. It's
that TV show, which is why he only had eight
hundred and twenty three yards.

Speaker 4 (19:39):
Imagine telling you your fan base, Dan, and you and
your teammates. I can't do it anymore, but I'm coming
out here again for year seventeen or whatever it is. Right, Yeah,
that would be even more selfish any other things.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
That's an interesting way to put it. And again, doesn't
seem like the Chiefs have ever planned for this for
thereaton the next era of Travis Kelcey, And though they've
had a couple of guys. Noah Gray is in there
as a part possibility, but you know there was. They're
a team that could use that next era tight end
and they haven't moved on from it necessarily, And they've

(20:08):
tried to get outside guys to help to help Patrick Mahomes.
Maybe they need somebody that's like Travis Kelcey to help
cure those offensive question for you, Dan, what if? What if?
What if he wasn't with Taylor Swift right now?

Speaker 4 (20:23):
Would they still have him on the team after the
last two years in his performance, Yes.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yes, I do think Okay, yes, right, I don't think
that Taylor Swift has that much power. Again, he won,
he won Super Bowls before he met on Taylor Swift. Sure,
so so like in the reason and that's probably you know,
it helps it helps me, Travis Kelce like, I get
all of that. So there's just a lot of equity
in there, and there are probably very few people that

(20:47):
can say what he said. It's just do you believe
what he's actually saying? For sure? We'll find out over
eighteen weeks, starting the week of the first week of September.
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(21:09):
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Speaker 3 (21:22):
Happy Wednesday to you, getting set for Week two of
the NFL preseason. I don't know if Cowboy fans are
looking forward to the regular season. One super fan and
I don't know if he's a super fan, but he's
sure a celebrity fan doesn't have much faith in Jerry
Jones or what the Dallas Cowboys are doing. Hit carry
up at Carrie twenty five Roads. You can find me

(21:44):
at Dan Byer on Fox. Max tweets into the show
and the conversation we were just talking about with record breaking.
As a Tigers fan, I'd much rather see Cal Rawley,
the big Dumper, hold the Ale home run record than
any Yankee. So there it goes. There's a different way
of looking at it, not wanting a Yankee to hold
the honors. So anybody but a Yankee, whether it be

(22:06):
cal Rale, a Mariner, or anybody else, to take away
the Ale home run record from Aaron Judge. Max is
happy with that. That's how you can reach us on
X again at Carrie twenty five Roads at Dan Byron Fox,
Jason Stewart's our executive producer, Ryan Smith on the Ones
and twos, and Chris purfett Is at the news desk.
I mentioned Denzel Washington. Did you know that Denzel Washington

(22:28):
was a huge Cowboys fan? No, I did not know that.
I didn't know. I didn't know that either. What I
find so interesting if there was one team you could
pick Denzel Washington to be a fan of in all sports,
who do you think it would have been?

Speaker 4 (22:43):
I thought it would have been one of the big
cities that New York or an LA type of situation.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
I think the Lakers, because I feel like we see
him a lot at Laker games. I get, you're an actor,
you live in southern California. The Lakers are the scene.
But if I had to pick, you know who it
was on what team was his absolute favorite? I thought
it would be the Lakers. Now, in the picture that
was used in the article that was sent over to

(23:10):
us by our executive producer Jason Stewart, Denzel Washington is
wearing a Yankees cap, and now he's telling us that
he's been a Dallas Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties. Like,
you could not pick three bigger brands that people despise
more than the Cowboys, Yankees, and Lakers. But Denzel is

(23:31):
the biggest star of the stars, and those are apparently
I'm just guessing. I don't know if the Yankees or not,
but he's wearing a Yankees cap. He actually came from
New York, so there could be some ties there with
the Yankees and would have a reason to be a
fan of them. But I think we all know someone
in our life who's a Cowboys, Yankees, or Laker fan.
And now we know that Denzel Washington is speaking with ESPN,

(23:53):
says he's been a Cowboys fan since the nineteen sixties
and that Jerry Jones is making it hard for him
as a fan not to be a fan because he
says he's always going to be a Cowboys fan. But quote,
I'm still going to have the star. Oh we actually
have the audio. Okay, all right, let's play from what
Denzel had to say on ESPN about the Cowboys and
Jerry Jones.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties. He's making
it hard for me not to be a fan because
I'm still a Cowboy fan. I'm still gonna have to
start on the side of the hat. But he ain't
thinking about us. He's thinking about his pocket. Okay, I
mean Jerry Jones on the phone, Get him on the phone.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
What does he say? You tell me? What does he say?
He says that he's getting rip my Cowboys.

Speaker 8 (24:39):
We're the most successful brand in sports, you.

Speaker 9 (24:42):
Know, you mean in terms of what championship?

Speaker 3 (24:44):
No, of course he can't sayship.

Speaker 8 (24:47):
Talking about recognition, notoriety, dollars and cents.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
And sports that.

Speaker 9 (24:50):
But in the end, one of the Yankee you.

Speaker 8 (24:52):
Haven't been in an NFC championship game or Super Bowl
than thirty years. Thirty years, okay, and for some reason
he's just stubborn.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Man.

Speaker 8 (25:00):
It just and then you got his son sitting there
talking about Michael Paus' is like, hey, he.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Gotta want to sign a contract. What makes no sense? Guys,
But you know this.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
There's box office and there's Oscars. Jerry been a while,
he ain't been to the show.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
You wouldn't know, geeze Dan.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
The most impressive thing about all of this for me
is we finally found out who Denzel roots for in
twenty twenty five. He's living right as one of the
biggest stars in the world. The fact that we didn't
know that about him. He's living the way you probably
should live as a celebrity, don't. That's the thing about
Denzel that makes him still popular too. We don't know

(25:41):
anything about him. We don't know what he does outside
of acting, and I think that's impressive.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
I thought it was impressive. I thought he was reading
a script when he first started talking everything he said
right like, I thought that he was in care Like listen, listen,
just to the beginning of this. This sounds like, uh,
this sounds like I went up, Now you're the actor,
I'll play the role. And I'm gonna say, you know what,
You're no Cowboys fan.

Speaker 2 (26:07):
I've been a Cowboy fan since the sixties.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
See like right there, Like that's that's in character, right,
You're no cowboy fan. It sounding good. You're no Cowboy fan, Denzel.
You know, cowboy fan. Play the butt again, Play the
butt again, and.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Play cowboy since the sixties.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Yes, yes, so cool. He's the best. So when Denzel
Washington is now a Cowboys fan, because we just kind
of I feel like we found out about it, I
can't call him a super fan. And I also don't
think you can be a super fan of three teams.
I think you can only be a super fan of
one team because that's what takes you down that road.

(26:49):
And they're super fans. They're celebrity super fans. When you
when you think of the Lakers. Who do you think
of as as their superfan Zach Nicholson, Yes, absolutely, I
think that there are second and third place. I actually
thought maybe Denzel could get a podium spot because I
feel like we see him a lot at Laker games,
like Flee right at Chili Peppers. Diane Cannon, we would

(27:11):
always see her at Laker games. So those are celebrities.
But Jack Nicholson probably the biggest celebrity sports fan that
there is. I'll say this, Paul Rudd and Eric stone Street.
Stone Street because a modern family and where he was
and plus during this decade of success, whether it be
the Royals in the Chiefs, like I feel like those

(27:32):
two guys because they're Kansas City fans, have gotten a
lot of run as celebrity fans of their hometown Kansas
City teams. So first it was the Royals, then it's
obviously the Chiefs over the past you know, seven or
eight years since they've been winning Super Bowls and going
to Super Bowls. But I feel like we get a
lot of Paul Rudd and a lot of Eric stone

(27:54):
Street when it comes to a team like Kansas City.
Other celebrity super fans that you can think of plus
we'll take your nominations at Carrie twenty five Roads. You
can find me at Dan Byer on Fox phone number
eight seven seven nine nine six six three six nine.
That's eight seven seven nine to nine on Fox. Who
pops up into your mind? That's quite a few.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
And the one that I mean, obviously, this guy's not
a celebrity, and I'm a Jet guy. But I don't
know if you guys even know, but the Fireman Ed
as a as a Superjet fan, the guy.

Speaker 3 (28:20):
That leads the Jets cheer all, he would be super fan.
Only do I know a Fireman D When I went
to a Jets game fourteen years ago. Uh, I've got
about eight videos of Fireman Ed leading cheers. There you go.
You weren't playing for them at the time. This is
about twenty eleven. I went to just a regular season game,
and that's that's really all it was. It's just I

(28:40):
wanted to see the stadium, wanted to see what the
atmosphere was like, and I wanted to see what Fireman
Ed did, and it was it was a deal. So
I'm totally down to the Fireman D. He's near the
top of the food chain. When I think of like
super fans one hundred percent. But I'll go, I guess
celebrity the one that we've seen the most and I
think with a kind of coincidence with their success is

(29:03):
Bradley Cooper with the Eagles. He's always there pretty much,
I mean for the big games, even when they're not big. Yeah,
and he's in the areas, he's there, So I'll give
him a little credit for sticking sticking with this team.
I had always thought that it was because he was
in that movie about the Eagles, like that's what And
then I'm like, I didn't know what came first, chicken

(29:24):
or the egg. And then I found out he's from
the area, So I didn't realize. But so when I'm like, oh,
that's that fits in just well that that he played
the role in. Was it Silver Linings Playbook? Yeah, that's
the name of the movie. Yeah. I think that he's
absolutely Jason Stewart's celebrity sports fans. So I have one.

Speaker 5 (29:41):
But I did think as you guys were talking there,
I thought of an interesting subcategory of the adult world
super fans on only fans. Interesting subcategory, right, I'm sure
that's searched. Who matth McConaughey. I think is has reached

(30:03):
the point maybe of being obnoxious, because everything Longhorn all
of a sudden becomes about McConaughey, and he really loves
the attention. But it's the first thing that comes to
my mind.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
I I remember being on the field for a game
that Texas won, like their Bowl game, and he's, you know,
amongst the amongst the crowd, and then the mix and everything. Yeah,
tried to try to steal a picture, tried to not
with him, but just of him. I think it did
a pretty good job. Chris Prophet so on.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
I don't think she's on only fans. But you guys,
remember there was a no for Florida State. There was
like a a porn star fan who was trying to
attract like players to Florida State for the seminals.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, way to play stupid. Who is that we've left
like Ben Stiller, Tracy Moore on the board for the
for the Knicks, Right, Yeah, that's the big the biggest,
biggest one, probably of all of them. I was I

(31:10):
was about to write that. I wrote down Mary hart
uh behind him played for the Dodgers, right I obviously
her and Larry King when when Larry King used to
be a Dodger fan, you know r I p no
no longer no, no longer a member of this category.
But Chris go to Chris. He goes right to the adult.
But he found the pathway by using get I get accused.

(31:32):
I get accused all the time of making about Detroit.
I could have said, hell, hey, I got Tim Robinson,
Sam Richardsoner now like big Lions guys and everything and
never heard of no who was Who's the game? Who's
the video game? Ninja? Yes? Yeah, everyone thinks fan.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
And also Bob Seeger is a big Lions.

Speaker 3 (31:52):
Fan as well. That I could keep going back and
back with the Lions. Sure, I'll tell you another like
super fan. I think Lil Wayne and the Packers for
what he is, he's like it's so random, but he
talks about when the Packers made the Super Bowl, when
Brett Favre and Reggie White won it in Super Bowl
thirty one, they were in New Orleans, and he became
like a die hard Packers fan, right, Like, that's one

(32:14):
that stands out to me of like the newer generation
of sports celebrity fans. I got one more diehard. That's
kind of offbeat.

Speaker 4 (32:21):
But he's had all the games, all the big basketball games,
and I know he's a super fan of basketball. I
don't know if there's a specific team, but James Goldstein,
the guy that dresses weird at everything big basketball game.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
Yes, I know exactly. You know, he goes everywhere, exact
game that he can go to, gets front row seats
to everyone.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
What's the story? Is he like a real estate guy.
He's a fashion I know he's a big fashion guy.
I don't know what all he's done. Yes, everybody knows him.
He has carte blanche. I've seen him. I've seen him
like I was fortunate enough to cover a couple of
NBA finals. In one of the NBA finals that I
covered was two thousand and seven with the Spurs and Calves.

(33:03):
So you have Lebron. You don't think that the Spurs
are a big deal, but you remember back then Eva
Longoria and Tony Parker were together. There's also there's I'm
totally blanking on the actor's name, but I just remember
and seeing how celebrities were treated around the NBA finals.
Some more got more respect than others. Jimmy Goldstein got

(33:28):
got that like the Eva Longoria treatment like wherever you
wanted to go, whoever you wanted to talk to, No
security guard was stopping you. But again to your point
of who is the guy with the funky clothes sitting courtside?

Speaker 3 (33:41):
There's the myth about him. You do know him, but
then he's he is the celebrity. He is the celebrity.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Co sure, Yes, speaking of funky, do you remember there
was a I remember seeing Jack Nicholson, you know, the
Lakers legend. I'm pretty sure he was at courtside for
a Clippers playoff game about ten years ago, really, and
it was like a great betrayal. I remember that was
like lob City Alsodden Jack Nicholson's there. Also, does every

(34:05):
city have like a famous lawyer injury lawyer.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
Superman dude? Yes, yes, I feel like there's a lot.
I know I can't name every single one, but I
know LA does, Detroit does, for sure, I know Milwaukee
does as well. Yes, people know them and yeah you
can see them. They probably purchased minority shares into the organization.
I'll I love the mix of celebrity and super fans.

(34:31):
I'm going to give you who I think is the
biggest super fan, and I don't think he's a fan
of the team anymore. Marlin's Man, Remember Marlin's Guy, marlins Man,
Do you remember Jason Stewart, You know who I'm talking about,
Marlin's Man, Marlin's Guy.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
That I was going to bring him up as like
the poor man's what's his name, Weinstein Gold you guys,
oh man, poor Man's goals. Marlin's Man wishes he got
that love because he pays to get into all the
sporting events. But I remember when my twenty twenty year

(35:10):
old son at the time so Marlin's Man at a
Dodger game, ran, I've never seen my son get so
excited to take a selfieousybody. Marlin's Man resonates with gen
Z a lot.

Speaker 3 (35:23):
He absolutely does, because he's everywhere, and that's the that's
part of the deal. The other thing with Marlin's Man
is he and the organization had a split, like when
Derek Jeter came in. Huh, there was a fracture in
the relationship. And Marlin's Man still wears his Marlin's gear
for a uniform set that they no longer wear. They

(35:43):
have an entirely different logo. They don't wear that Blaze
Orange one. But I have seen within the calendar year
Marlin's man at a sporting event. I have not seen
him as much lately, but I know that I've seen
him behind on plate for at least a game this year. Krise,
can we find Marlon Harland Man's real name? Yes, Lawrence Levy, Yes,

(36:04):
that's who he was. Kurt's and Erie, Pennsylvania. Kurt, Welcome
to Communo and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 9 (36:11):
Hey, what's going up, guys?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
What's happened?

Speaker 10 (36:13):
Man doing?

Speaker 9 (36:15):
All right?

Speaker 10 (36:15):
Did you guys mention Chiefs fan yet?

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (36:18):
The one that got arrested or the uh.

Speaker 9 (36:20):
The the one that was Robin Banks?

Speaker 4 (36:23):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (36:24):
Chief?

Speaker 3 (36:24):
Is it Chief's Aholic?

Speaker 10 (36:25):
Yeah? Yeah, that guy was awesome and he's in jail
right now.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
But yes, is it the Netflix documentary? Kurt? Is that
where it is? Where?

Speaker 9 (36:36):
Oh?

Speaker 10 (36:36):
No, I just knew about it from paying attention to sports.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I didn't.

Speaker 10 (36:40):
I mean, I'm gonna watch the documentary if there is one.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
There is one, Yeah on Netflix. Oh, these these super
fans are amazing, Kurt, good, good nomination. I went to
the celebrity route and talking about the Kansas City Chiefs,
I saw Paul run at Super Bowl fifty nine walking
on the field uh with his son prior to the
Eagles and Chiefs game, And I just feel like like
throughout that week, whenever the Chiefs are there, you always

(37:03):
have either Eric stone Street or Paul Rudd as part
of the conversation. Wasn't Billy Crystill a big met fan?
He was a big Clip Noise Yankees fan because he
loved Making Man, but he loved the Clippers as well.
He and Penny Marshall were huge Clipper fans. And on
the super fan tip of Clippers Clipper Darryl of course, yah,

(37:25):
there would there would be one. I'll tell you one
in the college ranks you mentioned earlier, Matthew McConaughey and Texas.
Ohio State has two super fans, one that is liked
and one that nobody Billy likes, but you will if
you ever watch an Ohio State football game, you will
undoubtedly see Big nutt or Buckeye Guy. Big Nuts, the

(37:50):
guy that people like. Buckeye Guy showed up at Earl
Bruce's a memorial service in his full Ohio State gear
like this is just one of the things. He's the
guy that's always on TV he's dressed up. He's got
an Ohio State cape and a cowboy hat on big nuts.
The one who paints his face. I think he's lost
a little weight. But every single Saturday that they play,

(38:14):
it's who the camera goes to, and they are always
on TV. But sometimes your super fan, your sports superfan,
is not liked by your regular fan base. And that
happened to be the case, uh with with one of
the Ohio State superfans.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
What was the guy, the OKC superfan, the one that
was really tan with the white teeth.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
I can't do it was Portland that yeah, yes, yeah again,
Yeah he was great. And Charles Barkley back and forth. Yes,
I remember that as well. Matt and Augusta Georgia. We're
talking super fans and slub fans here on Cavino and
Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. Matt, what's going on.

Speaker 10 (38:51):
Hey, Georgia.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
But I real quick.

Speaker 10 (38:54):
There was a guy for fift years at the University
of Florida. They called himself mister two Bits, and he
would run from one spot of the stadium to the other.
He was a ticket by in person and leave the
two Bits year in the entire stadium eighty ninety thousand
people would chime in and he was like beloved. He

(39:14):
went swooler in the fifties and didn't stop and diet
I mean the twenty ten or something. He may have
to know the Florida Gators to know it, but he
was like super fan.

Speaker 3 (39:27):
Oh he was, He absolutely was. He didn't And and
to Matt's point, who was in Valdosta not Augusta as
he said the he was known in the stadium. It's
not like CBS put him on TV right but before
every game because I had covered a few Florida games
back in the day and it was yeah, two bits,
four bits, six bits a dollar like that sort of chance.

(39:48):
He would do that before the game. So I know
exactly what Matt is talking about. There's but again like
he wouldn't he wouldn't have been on TV some of
these some of these guys Clipper Daryl get you know
shots from Prime Ticket or you know the Logan TV.
And we know Marlin's Man and others, Fireman ed, Fireman
absolutely Fireman that is guests on shows right like we're

(40:11):
talking Jets today, Fireman d comes and you know, joins
the program and you know, like when does it become
too much as a superfan. Dan is there when you're
going on show exactly. That is the line, and that's it.
James is in Virginia winging in on the celeb super
fan conversation. James, what's happening?

Speaker 9 (40:32):
Oh, thank you for taking my call. Gentlemen.

Speaker 4 (40:34):
Happy Wednesday, Man, Happy Wednesday.

Speaker 9 (40:38):
Big time all the time, every time, man, And I'd
be remiss if I didn't call in and shout out
my man. May he rests in teeth cheap z man
for salute the Commanders Man. But back then it was
hell to the Redskins, and my man always came in
with his big headdress. Super fan all the way. Line. Man, Hey,
I appreciate you guys getting me also quick, y'all have
a wonderful day.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Man.

Speaker 9 (40:58):
Salute the Commanders.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Brother. Yeah, I remember, I remember, and I remember videos
of him fighting with Cowboy fans physically fighting, and they
actually made NFL film's clips when they're talking about the
Cowboys Washington rivalry at the time, you would see him, Yes,
there there were. Now I'm not saying that he fought
every game. I'm just saying with the Cowboys rivalry that
was always a built up one oh Man.

Speaker 5 (41:19):
Yeah, we just had a phone call by the way
that he didn't want to come on the air, but
he had a good one. Was there one person or
was it a collection of people that would show up
with the three sixteen sign? One guy, one guy with
the three sixteen sign, the Austin No, the John three sixteen,
the first to start it. That's how Austin got it. Yeah,

(41:40):
but well I shouldn't say that's how Awesome got it.
But the guy who was behind the goalpost and at
the John three sixteen, I think there was a documentary
made about him as well, Like I relieve, Yes, I
don't know the exact details of it, but yes, I
think that was that was one guy that it became
pop and maybe was done by other people, but I

(42:03):
know solely at first it was done by by one person.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
Dan, I'm questioning your fan with Seattle. Now, until I
see you painted up or wearing a sign or a
T shirt, you're not a super fan.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
That's well, you know, the Seahawks have had a couple
of like recent super fans where you know it's guys,
guys from Seattle, like Joel McHale, Chris Pratt. Yeah, one
Wayne Wilson was another Mina Kimes is probably the biggest
like super fan, but I mean she's a member of
the media. I don't know you can put it that way.
But I'll tell you what, watching the Seahawks in the

(42:34):
eighties and nineties, there weren't a lot of celebrities that
were claiming the Seahawks at that time, right And nowadays
different story, but so more of the new school celebs
that have that have come around for the Seahawks and
maybe maybe they'll be coming out for the Mariners as well,
you know, as they continue their push good conversation here,
what's more annoying to you celeb fans like as a player? Well, actually, no,

(42:56):
I know that answer. You would love to mingle with
the celebrities. It's the super fans where you're like, Okay,
you may want to chill on the face paint. Is
that right?

Speaker 4 (43:03):
Exactly? You're a grown man. You got a nine to
five that you got to go to relax a little.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Bit, just a little bit. Yes, he's carry roads. I'm
Dan byer in for Covino and Rich here on Fox
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Speaker 3 (43:23):
Chris Quick Question, before you Yeah, put you step away.
Barry Sanders retires in nineteen ninety eight, a shock to
the Lions fans. As part of that retirement, we go
back a long long ways. Do Lions fans miss Barry
Sanders not continuing his career? Are they resentment? Is there
any resentment at all that he didn't become the all

(43:43):
time leading rusher? If we can just take a look
at the Lions fans minds when it comes to Barry Sanders' retirements,
where do they sit? Even though it happened twenty five
years ago.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
So it is a long time ago. I don't think
there's a lot of resentment, partly because I think what
happens after a career, once some time has passed, is
whether or not you decide to stand in good graces
with the team. And for Barry Sanders, he's always on
the sideline with the Lions. He's become something of an
ambassador for the team. He's always representing them, doing interviews

(44:13):
and appearing before major games. The Lions, especially with when
the ownership flipped over to Sheila hamp has really taken
a hard policy of making sure all the legends come back.
I think there was some resentment, a lot of resentment
with like Megatron, with Calvin Johnson when he left, because
there was the whole you know, million dollars on the table.
Still that was a big sticking point. But you know,

(44:36):
I think there was a lot of reconciliation. But the
first one to really have that, you know, embrace the
Lions coming back was Barry Sanders. So if there's anyone
still complaining about Barry Sanders among Lions fans, they're like
the oldest of old heads. I think most people see
him as the Lions legend unequivocally.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
The reason I bring it up is because Barry Sanders
was on his way to being the all time leading
rusher in the NFL and was going to set that
record if you would have played a couple of more seasons.
Emmett Smith ultimately left the game in two thousand and
four with over eighteen three hundred yards, But when Barry
Sanders left in nineteen ninety eight, he had fifteen two
hundred and sixty nine yards and was fifteen hundred yards

(45:15):
shy of Walter Payton's record, So it would have been
Barry Sanders, and Barry Sanders may still be the leading
rushing leading running back or for rushing yards today if
he would have continued to play in his career. That's
why I started and why I asked the question to
Chris is that would also be a Lions record, right
like that would be a record embraced by the city.

(45:35):
Cal Raley is on the verge of breaking a lot
of records for the Seattle Mariners right now, he is.
He's just shy of the pace to break Aaron Judge's
record of sixty two American League home runs right now,
He's on pace for sixty one. So they're saying the
likelihood of breaking in of sixty three or more is

(45:57):
thirty eight point five percent. That's according to bet online
right now now, will he break the record? Yes, is
plus one twenty. No is minus one sixty that's for
Judges sixty two. However, this was the one that I
thought was interesting. Will cal Raley break King Griffy Junior's
Mariner's single season home run record of fifty six seventy
one percent? Chance study will is he has forty five

(46:19):
home runs right now with forty two games left minus
two fifty, Yes, no, plus one seventy. Cal Raley is
having a magnificent season. If you're a Mariners fan, do
you want cal Raley to have that record or King
Griffy Junior to have that record? As a Mariner fan,

(46:40):
that's a that's a hard one.

Speaker 4 (46:41):
Dan. I think that the sweetest swinging lefty ever, and
just the name recognition, the father dynamic as well, just
the lure that the Griffies have.

Speaker 3 (46:55):
That'd be a tough one to break. Yes, I agree
to break. And it's why I brought it up because
it's not meant to disrespect cal Rally in any way.
But there is something about Ken Griffey Jr. Who was
every kid's favorite player. I feel like of my age
and growing up because he's just he had everything and
he is, you know, so much of that organization. Even

(47:15):
though he left for a couple of years to play
for the Reds, it's still they have Ken Grifree Junior
have your single season home run mark. I think is
pretty special. And it's not that the Mariners again would
cheer against cal ralely right, but I think that there
are records sometimes that you just don't want to have broken.

(47:35):
Roger marris Is broke a record of sixty one when
McGuire and Sosa and everybody were chasing it. And while
there were steroid thoughts maybe at that time that something
was going on, there was still a group of people
that didn't want sixty one broken and that they wanted
that number to stay. And it's since been broken by
McGuire and Sosa and then obviously Bonds after that, you know,

(47:56):
ended up seventy three, and why Judges now sixty two
is looked at is such a unique number because he
didn't pass Bonds a single season, but you can say
that it's an American League record. I just think the
thought process of breaking records and who you want to
have those records is trickier than you would think on
the surface. And I would just think, as a Mariners fan,

(48:17):
to have Ken Griffy Junior hold that single season record,
I think that they would they would want Ken Griffy
Junior to still have that. I could be completely off base.
I'm not a Mariners fan, but I think it's a
record that you would say, maybe I don't want that
one to be broken.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
Yeah, get close to a col don't break it, just
get really close, like have have the end of the
season be a little countdown that you know he might
possibly do it, or he's on the brink of doing it.
But yeah, being the flag bearer for the Mariners, having
that guy be Ken Griffy Junior, it's a big deal.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Win a World Series could make up for it. Jason Stewart,
our executive producer.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
I think Roger Morris is like the perfect example here
because the people that at the time complained that Roger
was just kind of this like Johnny cum Lately who
hadn't had a great Yankee career. They played I think
they I want to say, they expanded to one hundred
and sixty two games, So the whole asterisk took place
and it held up. By the way, the criticism of

(49:16):
Roger Merris building up to that sixty one season has
held up. He didn't he did not have a great
career afterwards. That was kind of like his one off,
And I think that's the criticism of cal Rawley's uh season.
We don't know yet if he's going to have other
years like this. This could be his one season. We

(49:37):
knew Ken Griffy was amazing, He was a Hall of
Famer he's the natural. So I think that's what you're
speaking to, like, we want, we want our heroes to
have these records, not just kind of like Johnny cum
Lately who had one great year.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
Yeah, yeah, I think that's a that's a big part
of it, and it's also just of who Ken Griffy
Junior is and what he meant to that franchise, into
that team and to to all us. I actually think
the worst case scenario would be Raleigh to break fifty
six but not get to Judges sixty two, so to

(50:09):
be in that sweet spot, which, by the way, seems
like where he's gonna land in his home run total
if he goes on a tear. Now there's others. Mickey Mantle,
as a switch hitter, hit the most home runs in
a single season that was fifty four. There's an eighty
seven and a half percent likelihood, according to bent Online,
that he breaks that number. As for Bonds's mark of
seventy three right now, it's plus two thousand and a

(50:29):
long shot twenty to one. Current odds are less than
five percent that Raley would be able to hit seventy three,
hit forty five with forty two to go. That seems
very unlikely. But if you were to fall short of Judge,
like if you were to break Judges record and I
have sixty three, then I think now we've really developed
a new star in Major League Baseball because now your
name is attached to that record. But if he was

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in between, if he would broke Griffy's record but didn't
get to Judges, to Jason's point of us not knowing
what cal Rawley's career is going to be or the
rest of it's going to be, I think there would
be some unhappy people. It's not that I don't want
records broken, but it's just the fact of certain records.
It's why I just thought with with Barry Sanders, if

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Barry Sanders breaks the rushing record, it's not just Barry
Sanders record, it's the entire city of Detroit's record, it's
the Lions record, it's probably the State of Michigan's record.
So like those things come with those sort of marks,
And that's why I think where cal Raley is right now,
he's in an interesting spot because there could be some
history on its side, but he also could have the
best player in franchise history. Maybe move aside Jason.

Speaker 5 (51:36):
I was thinking about this, so I grew up with
an on the I mean I have a bunch of
family on the East Coast or just big Johnny unitas
people yep, like you don't know, Johnny United Us. To
a lot of people of a certain age, is like
their hero. And then you're thinking, who holds the cold
single season record for passing? Peyton probably holds it, and
that's fine, Peyton holding it, but Andrew luck is the

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single season? Is that good?

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Is that Okay?

Speaker 5 (52:02):
If you're a diehard Colts fan from Wyduck.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Hey what you got? Damn? I No, I would say no,
like you don't want like then you just then you
just say you chalk it up to well, that's just
today's that's just today's NFL. But there's something historic about it.
Even though we all remember Ken Garofid junior playing, it's
been a while, it's spent a little while, so there's
some there's some history, there's some nostalgia with it. And

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to that, like, even if Peyton Manning had the record,
you could say, yeah, and it's not as much about
lux decision, but yet it is you didn't want to
play anymore, right, and was at that level and maybe
could have been a great So you feel a little
empty with that feeling. Yeah, I think there's absolutely something
to that. That's funny, Johnny.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
You Johnny, you went to the University of where that's right,
that's right.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
Statue in the end zone or do they move it.
I know they've renovated it, like you know, twenty times.

Speaker 4 (52:54):
It's still there. Lamar's is inside, but here's a steal
at the foot at the foot.

Speaker 3 (52:58):
Right, he's Carrier Roads. I'm Empire in four Cavino and
Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.