September 1, 2025 • 36 mins
Dan and Monse in for C&R as they explain why the Packers have a big target on their backs entering this new NFL Season. Dan and Monse answer an interesting question about Shedeur Sanders. Plus, Dan and Monse and the crew talk potential surprise teams.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Happy Labor Day and Monday to you. They don't do
chants of Monday, but I feel like we could chant
foot bo. I don't care. It's technically week one in
the NFL, right, we got a game this week like
it is week one. We are just wrapping up Week
one of the college football season. Hit Mancy up at
(00:40):
Monty Bolanos. You got me at Dan Byer on Fox
Cavino and Rich. We're in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
That's why we are in today. Jason Stewart is our
executive producer. Hello Jason, and Chris Profeder technical producer. What up, Chris,
Let's get a rolling on this Monday, because I came
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from America's dairy land, spent the last week in my
home state of Wisconsin, and they were head over heels,
head over heels when the news broke on Thursday that
Micah Parsons was going to be a member of the
Green and Gold being traded by the Packers to the
Dallas Cowboys. And now it's a whole new world for
the Green Bay Packers as they have an enormous different
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and enormous difference maker on that side of the football
to compliment what Jordan Love and the offense are going
to try to do. Bonifid superstar Michah Parsons now lining
up on defense for the Packers.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, before this trade even happened, Dan, we were
sitting here and I had a one liner where I said,
in that division, the Packers should have the most pressure
right now to come in and win it. You are
facing a team that is starting with a brand new
rookie quarterback in Ja Well rookie but not you go
what I'm saying, and JJ McCarthy who spent his first
year injured. You've got the Lions losing both of their
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offensive coordinators, and I think they're going to be bad,
but I think it's going to take a minute to
get back in their groove with new offensive coordinators. And
then I don't know what Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams
relationship is. I just think they may have similar personalities
where I wonder how truly it's going to come out
on the field for them. And so the easy team
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to put pressure on before this move even happened was
the Green Bay Packers. You were already successful last year
in a very tough division and you were basically running
it back, and so before getting Michael Parsons, I thought
the pressure was on them.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
On them.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now I'm like, oh, you better come out of the
NFC as a number one seed.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That targets is on their back. And I think that
most years, Monty, we think it's whoever made it to
the super Bowl from that conference. Like, for as much
as we don't know if the Chiefs are going to
be back or not, the road to the super Bowl
still goes through Kansas City and the AFC obviously with
the egos is the super Bowl champions. I think that
it's a no brainer or would be a no brainer
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that the road to the super Bowl in the NFC
go through Philadelphia. But I think that you're onto something.
I agree when you push in your chips like that,
and we can get to the breakdown of the chips
that were actually pushed in just The fact that Green
Bay says we're gonna go and get this player and
get that player changes everything because now it's you're in
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You're not only are you in win now mod like
you have been the last couple of years, but you
are now in win big now mode.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think that you're absolutely right with that that target
on their back because of this Michael Parsons deal, and
there's really now no more excuses for green Bay when
you push in all these chips.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Obviously, they they saw the pressure.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
They saw that they had a real chance to just
not only win the division, but win the NFC and get.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
To the Super Bowl by making this move for Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But the target on the back you you said that,
and I think that's the right expression. That is a
target on the back, which I hadn't worded it that way.
But now with Michael Parsons, Oh yeah, No, everyone is
wanting to take the Packers down because they were already good.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But I'm I see all this on paper.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm like, you need to win the NFC on paper,
But we saw the Packers already had a solid defense
last year. Their problems were offense. They kept dropping passes
like I know Matthew Golden. They've got a new rookie
receiver hoping to, you know, come out and be a
difference maker offensively.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But their offense was was sloppy. That's what needed to
be tightened up. Their defense was solid already. Yeah, you
now you get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But I think that it's it's interesting when you bring
up Matthew Golden's name because this all goes back to
a little bit of Aaron Rodgers and just to just
to branch off on that portion of it quickly, the
moves that Green Bay didn't make when Aaron Rogers were
there were because they had Aaron Rodgers right like there
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was there was so much focus on Green Bay not
taking a wide receiver in the first round and Aaron
Rodgers only throwing one touchdown pass to a first round pick,
which for so long was Marcedes Lewis, the veteran tight
end who's been in the NFL for like fifteen sixteen years,
but that was the only first round pick. I think
those stats were deceiving Monci, but they fit this argument
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because I think any NFL team would have loved to
have had Jordy Nelson. They would have loved to have
had DeVante Adams second round pick. Screen Bay drafted Randall Cobb.
I think Cobb was a second or third round pick.
They invested in the weapons, they just didn't do it
in the first round. So then they go and they
draft Matthew Golden in the first round this year, and
then now you go out and you get a defensive
player like Micah Parsons. I think it says so much
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about Green Bay and where they think they are and
where they think they are with Jordan Love, I'm sure
Aaron Rodgers is thinking like, oh great, why couldn't you
have done that when I was here? But Rogers was
viewed as the guy of being able to solve everything.
I think Green Bay is a complete team, like when
you look at Josh Jacobs, when you look at Jordan Love.
Their offensive line is intact. Their wide receiving corps was
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the question. So you draft Matthew Golden. But still there's
even people trying to convince us how productive their receiving
corps was because you had so many different guys able
to contribute. Now at the start of the season, it's
going to be a question because you don't have Christian
Watson because he's hurt. Jayden Reid is digged up a
little bit, Romeo Dobbs can never stay on the field.
So there's there are names that Green Bay used to
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rely on that you're not going to have early on
in the season. But the move to Micah Parson says, yeah,
we're ready to win a super Bowl. We want to
go to the Super Bowl. And for as much as
Philadelphia tries to defend it, if Philadelphia doesn't win this year,
guess what they won to last year. Green Bay doesn't
win it this year. To your point, it's a complete
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fail because now you're dealing with Micah Parsons, and you're
dealing with the Micah Parsons who right now entering the
season is dealing with a back injury. So now you're
gonna want to maximize everything that you have with it.
And you don't have two first round picks because you
gave them up as part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Maximize and then at the same time be cautious if
he really does have some sort of injury to his back.
You want to be cautious because you didn't just get
him for this year.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You sign him already to a four year extension. So
you're looking at the future.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But bringing up you brought up the Eagles a perfect
example though, But the Eagles are not running it right back.
They're missing five six big players that they had in
their Super Bowl team. The Packers are literally running it back.
And then some yes, it's a little bit different. So
it's like and then there's so much parody when it
comes to the division that the Eagles are in. We
hasn't been a repeat division winner since what the nineteen nineties,
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something I maybe off, but I think is idea right,
And so the Packers literally like have no excuses at
this point.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I agree, I think that there is. And I'm sitting
here because I'm in mid thought. When you look at
Detroit and you kind of laid out the division earlier,
everybody had some sort of subtractions. And we were doing
this game today. If you're just tuning in Monty and
I are with you here on Fox Sports Radio. We're
here a couple hours prior. We've got a basket of
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NFL preview questions in our helmet of questions we all
wrote each other to answer for the upcoming season, And
I got a question earlier, who was this second year
quarterback that's going to take a step back. And I
said Jaydon Daniels, just because I think it's going to
be tough to match how well he did last year,
and all the things that went right for the Commanders
are gonna something's not gonna go right this year. I'm sorry.
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It's just bound even out. At some point when you
look in the NFL, we're shocked that Matthew Stafford is
on track to start at quarterback for the Rams this
Sunday against the Texans, and the Rams are the defending
NFC West champions. Sure people think it's stuff with the
forty nine ers and coming back the Buccaneers. I mean,
there's the wide receiver room in Tampa. Chris Godwin's still
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trying to come back. Julia McMillan, Jalen McMillan, excuse me,
he's hurt, gonna miss maybe half the season. So there's
all these questions of these teams that you expect something from,
except Green Bay, where they've added and pushed it through.
I think that's I agree wholeheartedly that they have the
target on their back. They may not be the odds
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on favorite to go to the Super Bowl, but they
have showed more than any other team in the NFC
that they're all in. But now this Micah Parsons back
situation is one that is I don't think that Green
Bay is overly concerned with the back issue. However, I
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also thought the back issue was fake when Micah Parsons
was a member of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm with you. I thought it was fake too. And
then even Micah, after he showed up in Green Bay and.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Had his first press conference, he said he was good
to go and that he was going to play. He's like,
I'm ready, like, let's go. But now this that you're
gonna get an Ampa jural to see to help you play, I'm.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Wondering if the Cowboys knew something we don't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Know, if it was more serious, I think that the
NFL would have to step in in a certain way.
If there was something that was known or something that
was hidden. He obviously would have to pass the physical
with Jane Bay to be able to play. And he's
done that. He's wearing his new number one jersey. He's
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been introduced. The trade has done. Cowboys are moving on.
They've got Kenny Clark. That's where we are. However, it
does bring up the point with Jerry Jones on the
reasons to do the deal, and it's funny. The reason
I think that we could talk about the Packers today,
Monci is because I felt that ever since the trade
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was done on Thursday, it was all about the Cowboys
and Jerry Jones, that there wasn't this conversation about Bay
very much on what it does for the NFC. But
now that the dust is kind of settled on this deal,
it shows you on how Green Bay is all in
and how important that this season is for them. And
to have Micah Parsons dealing with a back issue that
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may need an epidural in Week one, I think there
would be concerned. Listen, I get it to the Lions,
but considering the guy hasn't been at training camp of any.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Sorts into that position, why even.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Play on Sunday? I know, like you want to make
this great unveiling. And even though the Cowboys were saying
like we expect him to play, we expect him to
be there. If they were to play and you get
a couple of more days because you're not playing on
a Thursday, you're playing on a Sunday, I don't think
it would be the worst thing in the world for
Micah Parsons to sit out of that game against the Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I would not rush it because I feel like back
issues are not something to take lightly. It's not it's
not a sprained ankle, it's not you know, the back
can be detrimental, and I you want him for the
long haul, So I'm with you. Why would you rush
him back if he just got there?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
He just got there, He's been there a week.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Remember Michah Parsons and or his team seemed to take
offense to Jerry Jones talking about his injuries from last
season in the negotiations, so that kind of aggravated the negotiations.
It was kind of dirty pool, I thought, because he
missed what he missed three games with a high ankle
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sprain last year, if not more so, his availability was
called into question during the negotiations and then this. I
know it's a different injury and he's not available, but
it does play into this whole thing. What wasn't it
like ninety ten the ratio of people in our industry
who were calling Jerry Jones an idiot? For me, I
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think skip Bayless is like the one won voice who
liked the trade, and it's like most of that was
how could you possibly do this? But if Michaeh. Parsons
miss his time this year, say, or if he becomes
a guy that's kind of a guy that isn't available,
like an Odell Beckham junior or something, will those same
people be like maybe Jerry Jones k Newdio was talking
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about Or will they say no, Michael was injured so
we haven't been given the full Mica yet. Well, that
was one of the reasons that Jerry Jones specifically brought
up as a hesitation in this deal.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think that Jerry was right in his thinking along
that way. I didn't hate the deal from the Cowboys
perspective because I just didn't think that the Cowboys were
a Micah Parson's long term deal away from winning Super Bowls.
At some point, you have to make a tough decision
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and not pay someone, and they did. The only pushback
that I would give to that is the conversation around
the league. I think Jerry was founded in the negotiations
with Micah Parsons, but he was also speaking out of
both sides of his mouth because he said they had
a deal done back in April, So what changes between
now and then if you're using all of these reasons
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to not give him that extra money that his agent
wanted him to have. So that's the only part with
Jerry where I say, Okay, great deal, but you were
willing to pay him in April, and now you're saying
that you're concerned about his injury history and what games
he missed in paying him X amount of money. I
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also think that the deal that they got wasn't the
greatest deal to just get two first round picks and
a player to help stop the run, which they felt
was an issue of need. I felt that they could
have gotten more from another team or even from Green
Bay for Micah Parsons. So that's where I wouldn't let
Jerry off the hook because I feel in a way
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he speaking out of both sides of his mouth from
saying that they had a deal done in April and
I thought that he could get more. But ultimately, to
your point, I think that Jerry Jones has a leg
to stand up.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I don't hate this deal for the Cowboys. I agree
with you, I think maybe he could have gotten more,
and what to answer your question first, Jason, I think
that there are only people that are gonna come out
and defend Jerry Jones. Might be Cowboys fans, but if
you're not a Cowboys fans, if you're not a Cowboy fan,
and even this goes well for the Cowboys, Jared, people
don't like to give Jerry Jones credit.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
They just don't want to do that for some reason.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And the thing that I see here, it's like something
something happened where there was a switch for Jerry Jones,
as we're seeing in this documentary. The minute he felt
like Jimmy Johnson was no longer quote unquote loyal.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
To him, he immediately got the boot.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I feel like there was something went down with the
agent behind closed doors that right there, something switch for
Jimmy or excuse me, for Jerry Jones, and he wanted
to make the trade happen yesterday. And that's why he
was like two first jounp picks, cool, go ahead, send
him on his merry way, shove it up that agent's ass.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah. That's that's the problem with Jared though, for the defenders,
is to have someone who's so emotional, fair to to
like when you're in that position. You can't be that
emotional in Jerry is and I think that's a knock
on his GM duties and in his role as the
general manager.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's just hard because right he has had so much
success money wise that like he doesn't he doesn't think
he's doing a bad job. He's like, what are you
talking about? I have a billion dollar team? Yes, I
know I haven't won, but we're talking.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
About it's the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm winning here. Where what are you talking about there?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Take the Luca deal to the Lakers. When you look
back on that deal, what was the worst part about
the deal? I'll tell you what mine is and then
then you can answer. I thought it was the return
return that Dallas got in getting an injured Anthony Davis.
So their concerns of trading Luka Doncic may have been,
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may have been legit. Luca now getting into shape tells
us that he wasn't in shape previously, and Dallas may
have had those concerns, but it was the return for
what they got for him where we felt he could
have been shopped to other teams and you could have
gotten more. I don't think it's any different than what
Dallas has right now is Michael Parsons may have a
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back issue and he may have an injury problem, but ultimately,
Jerry didn't get maximum value for the piece that he had,
and ultimately, I think that comes back to Jerry Jones
is not doing the job that he should have done
as a general manager to try to squeeze every amount
of juice in a trade that you can get out
of someone of the caliber of Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I know there's a lot of similarities because it's Dallas,
poor Dallas fans, but I actually think they're not the same.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
And I feel.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Like, like you said, the Cowboys were not a Micah
Parsons extension away from getting past a playoff win. One
playoff win, they weren't even there, let alone the Super Bowl.
The MAVs went to the finals with Luca because of Luca.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't think it's so much worse.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
The Luca thing is so much worse, and you got
rid of one, the one guy who actually took you
to the finals. Micah and Luca to me are not
the same because the sports are different, not in levels
of skill, but just like what they mean to the sport.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm yeah, and I'm not, and I'm not, and I
think it's a very fair point. I think that you're
accurate with it. The point that I'm making is, even
if there was something that Dallas knew about Luca that
they wouldn't be able to continue with, the rest of
the league doesn't know about it. So you're trying to
get you know, what the real value of Luca is.
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In who Luca is and why you're getting rid of him.
Everybody else doesn't know. They could have gotten more than
just two first round picks and Kenny Clark from it.
And I think that even though Jerry's right in doing
the deal, I mean, if Micah Parsons is limited and
is juredo throughout the next four years of his of
his contract, then Jerry wins the trade. But instead of
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winning thirty to nothing, I felt he could have won
fifty to nothing. Maybe in the end that doesn't matter
if you have that much of a much of a blowout,
but that's kind of how I view it. But I
think I think it's I think you bring up a
fair point that the you know, in comparing the two,
the Mavericks were almost to the mountaintop.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Jason Stewart now mons. You brought up the documentary. Now
have you have you finished it or you're still.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Three or four it?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Well, I know I'm on episode seven.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Okay, good Dan finished it. I finished it. I very
much recommend it. Now, Dan, as you were as you
were watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press conference trying
to justify the trade and everythink, did it also strike you?
Because it struck me this way that if you watch
the documentary, and you don't even have needed to see
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the documentary to see to know this that Jerry Jones
and Jimmy Johnson parted ways for a lot of reasons,
but the main reason was is that they couldn't really
find any any common ground on who would take credit
for the herschel Walker deal. And to this day, Jimmy
Johnson it still irks him to even mention that it
was anybody other than Jimmy Johnson. It's a huge point
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of contention. And as I'm watching Jerry Jones stumble through
this press conference on Thursday night, I want to say,
I'm thinking this is Jerry's herschel Walker. Now, if this
deal works out and these draft picks pan out and
Michael Parsons isn't great on the Packers. Jerry Jones could
for once say that he pulled off the deal and
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it was his decision. Only you get any of that
vibe out of this.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I think that's a fair assessment. I yeah, I do
get that vibe. I will also say this that I
think that throughout the layers of that documentary, the first
one of the money that he owed to people, not
only in trying to strike oil in Texas, where he
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said that this was kind of his last shot or
one of his last shots, because he owed people so
much money, so much so that he was going to
team up with Jimmy Hoffa to try to buy the Chargers,
like he was willing to do these things, but that
they're not as on firm ground as he wants you
to think that they are. So that was the revealing
thing to me, is Jerry is telling us on how
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much they were losing money with the Cowboys early on,
with the organization and the millions of dollars that they
were losing. So in all these times where he's made
a big move or made a big splash, he hasn't
been in the catbird seat. And that's how I feel
about this situation. But to bring up the Jimmy Johnson thing,
to have this be his deal. Yeah, I could see
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that of him wanting this on, you know, in.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
His obit because we talk about he's emotional, like these
other things. He thinks about it, like as much as
he's a businessman, he is very emotionally involved, and that
would be a victory that he would be able to
claim solely by himself.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So I totally see that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Absolutely, it's yes. I think that there are parallels, yes,
absolutely to it. And this could be Jerry's I'm the
one who did the money, remember that, Why did you
get more? Why you could have gotten more?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Set down?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She's I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Chris Purfet.
We are telling thank you, thank you. We are drawing
questions out of the the hat of NFL preview. I've
got one right here, all right, you guys ready for
the quick NFL questions. Will Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift
secretly get married during the season?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I wonder who wrote that one.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I can tell it's girls handwriting. I can tell
it's it's it's it's girl's handwriting. I'm sure Manzi wrote it.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, and you want to know why, Why because they're
already married.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, because Travis Kelcey is committed to focusing on this season.
And what an awful look to think that you're going
to get married between now and February when you said
you were all in on this year.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's not completely his choice though.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's true. That is very true, Chris Purfect.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Just when when sheesus decides to start putting the pressure
on it. It don't matter what week it is, that fair.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Point bye week. Keep an eye on them.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Give you on Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
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Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, Oh, Dan.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hit her up at Moncey Bolaos. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here, Chris profetis here.
We are drawing NFL preview questions out of a hat.
You've got one, I do. We're gonna hear from Tom
Brady in a second. But Manzi's preview question is will.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Shador Sanders do a postgame interview for a game he
didn't play in?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Mmm? Interesting? That was my question? That was that was
my question. Imagine how ridiculous that would Shadora doesn't play
and then you go in the locker room and there's
eight reporters around this locker room him.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yes, what'd you think of this?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What are your thoughts on the twenty four to nothing lost?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Do you think you should have gone in in the
fourth quarter?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah? Do you think you will answer the question? It
seems this is a very simple null, but apparently it isn't. Again,
he didn't play in the game. He probably doesn't even
have to shower.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
He better not. How about that?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
He will he even be in a jersey? Will he
even be in pads?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
No? He better not. But I feel like there's the
chest I.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This this started a whole gambling segment I do on
the weekends. But like, and I'm gonna give you the
over on you guys, the over under on this again?
Over under half a snap for shar Sanders in the
season like this, this over, yeah, over, He'll play at
some point. It's just it's it's fascinating how much attention
has just been beyond the pale at this point.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, which I think makes my question so much more
ridiculous yet somehow creaky from what mons from Monzi's have
to deal with. So you think you're saying yes no.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The answer should be answer is no, Whether.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There's a chance now, I guess.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Then I guess there is kind of like this uh
side bar of of options you're talking about, like an
interview from the team reporters, or even like a national interview.
But I could see some like I don't know, like
uh pop culture website doing an interview that doesn't count,
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though that's not the nature of the question, correct now.
It does remind me of second right, right right. It
reminds me of something I posted last week, and I
don't think anyone here Chris doesn't follow me on Twitter,
and I'll try not to take offense to that. And
then you guys both follow me, you didn't share it
or like it, so I'm assuming you just didn't see it.
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I sent out a tweet it was quote tweeting the
story that Shador Sanders is an Emergency three for the Browns,
and I said, so his branding team needs to change
legendary to emergency three on all of their merchandise.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
What do you guys think that's like me bounce?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
This with me bounce Emergency three, Emergency three.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I got my Emergency three T shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Can get a sponsorship with emergency.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
See three.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You guys are onto something. You're onto something.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'll let's talk to some Tom Brady or let's hear
from Tom Brady. We'll be on the call Sunday for
Fox as a Week one in the NFL season opens up.
This is what the hall seemed to be a Hall
of Fame quarterback said about what he looks for in
other quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
That's what I look for all the time when a
quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass. I actually watched to see
who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do?
I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went
down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates,
every time I wanted everyone to feel like they were
part of the success. I told the lineman, we're all
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running to the end zone and we're celebrating as a team,
because I think that's way more intimidating than a quarterback
doing his six shooter guns and pointing up in the
crowd and doing all that other that's very self promotional,
but it's not about winning, and I think winning in
football is about a team, always a team attitude.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
First PFF podcast with that, does Tom Brady have a
point when judging other quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, such a good point. I think he's a
goat for a reason. But that word intimidating. It's interesting
that he chose that word, but I understand what he's saying.
If you're playing against the team that looks like they
are one team, the brotherhood is alive and thriving, versus
individual performances of guys just wanting to toot their own horn,
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it is more intimidating to face a team like that,
that a complete team, versus one guy who's trying.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
To get all the credit. Like I feel like you can.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
If I'm playing against a team in a sport and
there's one person who seems to not be cohesive with
the team, I'm gonna try to take them out mentally.
That is the first Domino to fall. Take that one out,
and then maybe the other.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Starts to fall apart. And so I totally understand.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That I do look at that. I watch that, I
watch that I watch, I watch postgame handshakes or our
old buddy George Reister who used to team up with
on the network. I joke that they're should be a
velvet rope and a red carpet for people to line
up to shake Tom Brady's hand after the game, because
not everybody does. He can't shake every player's hands, so
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like there's a level of and I was somewhat joking.
I was joking, but almost not really, but in a
way like okay, you can't just go up, just like
when Jamison Williams asked for Aaron Rodgers jersey after the
last Lions Packers game that Rogers had, like all right,
you're not getting it, and second of all, you're not
even close to the level of player that would get
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that jersey. Like I guess, you know, it never hurts
to ask, But I'll watch that. I'll watch when a
quarterback throws it to his teammate this celebration if there's
thought to be any you know, like rift, like Josh
Allen Stefan Diggs remember when they were teammates in Buffalo
and we thought that there may be was a fallout
if Josh Allen throws him a touchdown? Are they shaking hands?
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Are they? Are they? Buddy? Buddy? I watch those things
and I'm actually surprised that Tom Brady does as well.
And Doug Gottlieb here on the network talks about how
he was called out in a film review when he
was playing basketball at Notre Dame and he wasn't cheering
for his teammates on the sideline, and the coach circled
it and said, like, why aren't you cheering? And it's
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something that he had never forgotten. I think it is
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It is a big deal, and it is shocking to
hear Tom Brady. Sorry, I mean to cut you off,
Tom Brady, to say it like that out loud. Do
you also watch when somebody when a player drops a
pass to see how the quarterback reacts.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I also look at that too, just to see how
frustrated the quarterback looks.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yes at times, you know, or is it just like
all right, moving on to the next play, or how
much are they holding onto it?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I look at who helps up who in an NBA game.
I look at who shakes who's ever hand slapping five
at the free throw line, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I mean you mentioned Doug Doug Gottlieb's example at Notre Dame.
Remember when Lebron broke the all time scoring record and
then Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Was like not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, like he was just off to the side, like
just kind of like over it. Like that's something you
we all remember that one. You pay attention to the
little things.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like this, Yes, and that's what makes Tom Brady got
Brady the goat the Goat. She's Monty Blagos. I'm Dan
Byer in for Covito and Richie. By the way, we're
in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Guys. We'll be back
in their normal spot tomorrow as we get ready for
Week one of the NFL season.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
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Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's Cavino and rich But the guys, we're in for
Dan Patrick this morning. So you get me Monty Blagos
and Dan Bayer on this Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's great to be uh, to be working having a
good time. We are those traveling, please be safe. Yeah
you're home right now. Tomorrow Oh man, that wake up
after Labor Day weekend. Kids are back in school, gotta
go back to work. That's a tough one. Tuesday after
Labor Day is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
The worst day is the day after the super Bowl,
not the Tuesday after Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I completely disagree.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yes, oh, because you're at the super Bowl every year,
it is.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, I've been fortunate enough to attend a few, and
I still think that this because this is when reality hits.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You like to start like the school year and like
everything gets back in business.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think the start of the football season is an uplifter.
Yeah you know.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, it's also the end of summer, right, Like that helps.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's the end of summer that kills me. Yes, And
I think to your point, you're thinking super Bowl is
tough because not only it's the game, but it's the
end of football. I hate the end of summer. I
really do. I love Fall of everything that comes with it,
but the end of summer I become a summer person.
I've said this over like the last decade or so.
I don't know why. I never like appreciated summer, and
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now for the last ten years, I just I love
every second of it.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean if summer's fine, but September is the
best month.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Of the year. All right, Well, well we are in it.
We are in it right now, in it to win it. Jason,
did you wake up early to send out your normal
tweet of I saw seven hours ago the tweet sent.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah, it was actually late today.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
It took me a good thirty minutes for someone to
remind me on social media that I hadn't sent it yet.
That's how that's how wired they are. By the way,
fall starts officially on the twenty second of September.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yes, so the unofficial end of summer. Right, we got
three more weeks. Do you do you have a question?
Do you need to draw?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I just remember I was the one who I can draw?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah? Oh, do you know you guys need a question? Yeah,
we need a crew. What we've been doing is we
threw a bunch of questions into the hat.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh Dodgers, not your helmet.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, but it isn't real because it doesn't have la.
It just says Dodgers on top of it instead of
the logo.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, that would be an l a hat.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Oh boy, here we go, not the whole deal, all right,
Chris Burfett, you want to draw?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, sure, let's see here. This one's in like the
shape of a crane. I don't know who decided to.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Fold this one gotta be adjacent one.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Who is even positioned as the surprise team this year?
I okay, spoiler this is one I wrote. But oh okay,
I just I wrote this because I feel like looking
at I just we just did the predictions over the
weekend of like the teams, I don't feel like there's
any surprise this year. It feels like a lot of chalk.
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It feels like we've come into this year. We do
this kind of every year where we kind of already
pick out who are the teams, but there's not a
lot of room I feel like for surprise teams. If
the Falcons are good, I think we saw the roots
for that, but there's no team like last year was
it was the Commanders. No one was talking about the
Commanders being a good to a playoff, a NFC championship
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contender that they turned into last year and I'm looking
around the league, and I'm not sure if there's a
lot of room for surprise teams like that. So I
guess maybe the Cardinals if they shape things up.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think that's a good pick.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But like, besides that, there's not a lot of like latitude.
I feel like there we've got a clear upper class
and a clear lower class right now. To the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I like Chris wrote a question that we would be
like no one, really no one, and.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
He wanted to answer it to no one?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Did you like freeze the answer like the eighty five
draft lottery?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, who's the frozen question?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You think I'm smart enough to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'll I think you're very smart, but maybe not to
those you know, deceitful levels. I will say this, I
think in the divisions where we think there could be
a surprise, the teams are so tough at the top,
like the NFC East. Yeah, I'd be shocked if the
Giants or Dallas made it through, not because I think
so poorly of those teams, but also you have to
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navigate through Philadelphia and Washington. He used the Falcons as
an example. Would be would be would we be shocked
if Carolina made this run. I think we'd be very surprised,
but I don't know if we'd be shocked because I
don't think we look at that as a really strong division.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Fair and you're right on the money. Yes, I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And I was gonna say, like, are you talking about
divisions to come out of nowhere or like.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
To come out No, just a team to come out
of there, like how the Commanders came out of the
East last year.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, I you know, Hey, let's put it on the Buccaneers.
I know they're gonna have some players missing, but I
think the Buccaneers can surprise.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, it would because they made the playoffs the last
two years. What are you talking about? Did we already
know the Buccaneers?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
No, to actually come out of the NFC.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Oh, to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yes, all right, okay, Yeah, to actually come out of
the NFC, That's.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What I meant.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
She's Monty, I'm dan More. Next
Hey, thanks for listening to the Cadino and Rich Podcast.
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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Happy Labor Day and Monday to you. They don't do
chants of Monday, but I feel like we could chant
foot bo. I don't care. It's technically week one in
the NFL, right, we got a game this week like
it is week one. We are just wrapping up Week
one of the college football season. Hit Mancy up at
(00:40):
Monty Bolanos. You got me at Dan Byer on Fox
Cavino and Rich. We're in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
That's why we are in today. Jason Stewart is our
executive producer. Hello Jason, and Chris Profeder technical producer. What up, Chris,
Let's get a rolling on this Monday, because I came
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from America's dairy land, spent the last week in my
home state of Wisconsin, and they were head over heels,
head over heels when the news broke on Thursday that
Micah Parsons was going to be a member of the
Green and Gold being traded by the Packers to the
Dallas Cowboys. And now it's a whole new world for
the Green Bay Packers as they have an enormous different
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and enormous difference maker on that side of the football
to compliment what Jordan Love and the offense are going
to try to do. Bonifid superstar Michah Parsons now lining
up on defense for the Packers.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
You know, before this trade even happened, Dan, we were
sitting here and I had a one liner where I said,
in that division, the Packers should have the most pressure
right now to come in and win it. You are
facing a team that is starting with a brand new
rookie quarterback in Ja Well rookie but not you go
what I'm saying, and JJ McCarthy who spent his first
year injured. You've got the Lions losing both of their
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offensive coordinators, and I think they're going to be bad,
but I think it's going to take a minute to
get back in their groove with new offensive coordinators. And
then I don't know what Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams
relationship is. I just think they may have similar personalities
where I wonder how truly it's going to come out
on the field for them. And so the easy team
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to put pressure on before this move even happened was
the Green Bay Packers. You were already successful last year
in a very tough division and you were basically running
it back, and so before getting Michael Parsons, I thought
the pressure was on them.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
On them.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now I'm like, oh, you better come out of the
NFC as a number one seed.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
That targets is on their back. And I think that
most years, Monty, we think it's whoever made it to
the super Bowl from that conference. Like, for as much
as we don't know if the Chiefs are going to
be back or not, the road to the super Bowl
still goes through Kansas City and the AFC obviously with
the egos is the super Bowl champions. I think that
it's a no brainer or would be a no brainer
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that the road to the super Bowl in the NFC
go through Philadelphia. But I think that you're onto something.
I agree when you push in your chips like that,
and we can get to the breakdown of the chips
that were actually pushed in just The fact that Green
Bay says we're gonna go and get this player and
get that player changes everything because now it's you're in
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You're not only are you in win now mod like
you have been the last couple of years, but you
are now in win big now mode.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
Now.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I think that you're absolutely right with that that target
on their back because of this Michael Parsons deal, and
there's really now no more excuses for green Bay when
you push in all these chips.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Obviously, they they saw the pressure.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
They saw that they had a real chance to just
not only win the division, but win the NFC and get.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
To the Super Bowl by making this move for Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
But the target on the back you you said that,
and I think that's the right expression. That is a
target on the back, which I hadn't worded it that way.
But now with Michael Parsons, Oh yeah, No, everyone is
wanting to take the Packers down because they were already good.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
But I'm I see all this on paper.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
I'm like, you need to win the NFC on paper,
But we saw the Packers already had a solid defense
last year. Their problems were offense. They kept dropping passes
like I know Matthew Golden. They've got a new rookie
receiver hoping to, you know, come out and be a
difference maker offensively.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
But their offense was was sloppy. That's what needed to
be tightened up. Their defense was solid already. Yeah, you
now you get Michael Parsons.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
But I think that it's it's interesting when you bring
up Matthew Golden's name because this all goes back to
a little bit of Aaron Rodgers and just to just
to branch off on that portion of it quickly, the
moves that Green Bay didn't make when Aaron Rogers were
there were because they had Aaron Rodgers right like there
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was there was so much focus on Green Bay not
taking a wide receiver in the first round and Aaron
Rodgers only throwing one touchdown pass to a first round pick,
which for so long was Marcedes Lewis, the veteran tight
end who's been in the NFL for like fifteen sixteen years,
but that was the only first round pick. I think
those stats were deceiving Monci, but they fit this argument
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because I think any NFL team would have loved to
have had Jordy Nelson. They would have loved to have
had DeVante Adams second round pick. Screen Bay drafted Randall Cobb.
I think Cobb was a second or third round pick.
They invested in the weapons, they just didn't do it
in the first round. So then they go and they
draft Matthew Golden in the first round this year, and
then now you go out and you get a defensive
player like Micah Parsons. I think it says so much
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about Green Bay and where they think they are and
where they think they are with Jordan Love, I'm sure
Aaron Rodgers is thinking like, oh great, why couldn't you
have done that when I was here? But Rogers was
viewed as the guy of being able to solve everything.
I think Green Bay is a complete team, like when
you look at Josh Jacobs, when you look at Jordan Love.
Their offensive line is intact. Their wide receiving corps was
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the question. So you draft Matthew Golden. But still there's
even people trying to convince us how productive their receiving
corps was because you had so many different guys able
to contribute. Now at the start of the season, it's
going to be a question because you don't have Christian
Watson because he's hurt. Jayden Reid is digged up a
little bit, Romeo Dobbs can never stay on the field.
So there's there are names that Green Bay used to
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rely on that you're not going to have early on
in the season. But the move to Micah Parson says, yeah,
we're ready to win a super Bowl. We want to
go to the Super Bowl. And for as much as
Philadelphia tries to defend it, if Philadelphia doesn't win this year,
guess what they won to last year. Green Bay doesn't
win it this year. To your point, it's a complete
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fail because now you're dealing with Micah Parsons, and you're
dealing with the Micah Parsons who right now entering the
season is dealing with a back injury. So now you're
gonna want to maximize everything that you have with it.
And you don't have two first round picks because you
gave them up as part of the deal.
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Maximize and then at the same time be cautious if
he really does have some sort of injury to his back.
You want to be cautious because you didn't just get
him for this year.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
You sign him already to a four year extension. So
you're looking at the future.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
But bringing up you brought up the Eagles a perfect
example though, But the Eagles are not running it right back.
They're missing five six big players that they had in
their Super Bowl team. The Packers are literally running it back.
And then some yes, it's a little bit different. So
it's like and then there's so much parody when it
comes to the division that the Eagles are in. We
hasn't been a repeat division winner since what the nineteen nineties,
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something I maybe off, but I think is idea right,
And so the Packers literally like have no excuses at
this point.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I agree, I think that there is. And I'm sitting
here because I'm in mid thought. When you look at
Detroit and you kind of laid out the division earlier,
everybody had some sort of subtractions. And we were doing
this game today. If you're just tuning in Monty and
I are with you here on Fox Sports Radio. We're
here a couple hours prior. We've got a basket of
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NFL preview questions in our helmet of questions we all
wrote each other to answer for the upcoming season, And
I got a question earlier, who was this second year
quarterback that's going to take a step back. And I
said Jaydon Daniels, just because I think it's going to
be tough to match how well he did last year,
and all the things that went right for the Commanders
are gonna something's not gonna go right this year. I'm sorry.
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It's just bound even out. At some point when you
look in the NFL, we're shocked that Matthew Stafford is
on track to start at quarterback for the Rams this
Sunday against the Texans, and the Rams are the defending
NFC West champions. Sure people think it's stuff with the
forty nine ers and coming back the Buccaneers. I mean,
there's the wide receiver room in Tampa. Chris Godwin's still
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trying to come back. Julia McMillan, Jalen McMillan, excuse me,
he's hurt, gonna miss maybe half the season. So there's
all these questions of these teams that you expect something from,
except Green Bay, where they've added and pushed it through.
I think that's I agree wholeheartedly that they have the
target on their back. They may not be the odds
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on favorite to go to the Super Bowl, but they
have showed more than any other team in the NFC
that they're all in. But now this Micah Parsons back
situation is one that is I don't think that Green
Bay is overly concerned with the back issue. However, I
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also thought the back issue was fake when Micah Parsons
was a member of the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I'm with you. I thought it was fake too. And
then even Micah, after he showed up in Green Bay and.
Speaker 3 (09:57):
Had his first press conference, he said he was good
to go and that he was going to play. He's like,
I'm ready, like, let's go. But now this that you're
gonna get an Ampa jural to see to help you play, I'm.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
Wondering if the Cowboys knew something we don't.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Know, if it was more serious, I think that the
NFL would have to step in in a certain way.
If there was something that was known or something that
was hidden. He obviously would have to pass the physical
with Jane Bay to be able to play. And he's
done that. He's wearing his new number one jersey. He's
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been introduced. The trade has done. Cowboys are moving on.
They've got Kenny Clark. That's where we are. However, it
does bring up the point with Jerry Jones on the
reasons to do the deal, and it's funny. The reason
I think that we could talk about the Packers today,
Monci is because I felt that ever since the trade
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was done on Thursday, it was all about the Cowboys
and Jerry Jones, that there wasn't this conversation about Bay
very much on what it does for the NFC. But
now that the dust is kind of settled on this deal,
it shows you on how Green Bay is all in
and how important that this season is for them. And
to have Micah Parsons dealing with a back issue that
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may need an epidural in Week one, I think there
would be concerned. Listen, I get it to the Lions,
but considering the guy hasn't been at training camp of any.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Sorts into that position, why even.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Play on Sunday? I know, like you want to make
this great unveiling. And even though the Cowboys were saying
like we expect him to play, we expect him to
be there. If they were to play and you get
a couple of more days because you're not playing on
a Thursday, you're playing on a Sunday, I don't think
it would be the worst thing in the world for
Micah Parsons to sit out of that game against the Lions.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
I would not rush it because I feel like back
issues are not something to take lightly. It's not it's
not a sprained ankle, it's not you know, the back
can be detrimental, and I you want him for the
long haul, So I'm with you. Why would you rush
him back if he just got there?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
He just got there, He's been there a week.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Remember Michah Parsons and or his team seemed to take
offense to Jerry Jones talking about his injuries from last
season in the negotiations, so that kind of aggravated the negotiations.
It was kind of dirty pool, I thought, because he
missed what he missed three games with a high ankle
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sprain last year, if not more so, his availability was
called into question during the negotiations and then this. I
know it's a different injury and he's not available, but
it does play into this whole thing. What wasn't it
like ninety ten the ratio of people in our industry
who were calling Jerry Jones an idiot? For me, I
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think skip Bayless is like the one won voice who
liked the trade, and it's like most of that was
how could you possibly do this? But if Michaeh. Parsons
miss his time this year, say, or if he becomes
a guy that's kind of a guy that isn't available,
like an Odell Beckham junior or something, will those same
people be like maybe Jerry Jones k Newdio was talking
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about Or will they say no, Michael was injured so
we haven't been given the full Mica yet. Well, that
was one of the reasons that Jerry Jones specifically brought
up as a hesitation in this deal.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I think that Jerry was right in his thinking along
that way. I didn't hate the deal from the Cowboys
perspective because I just didn't think that the Cowboys were
a Micah Parson's long term deal away from winning Super Bowls.
At some point, you have to make a tough decision
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and not pay someone, and they did. The only pushback
that I would give to that is the conversation around
the league. I think Jerry was founded in the negotiations
with Micah Parsons, but he was also speaking out of
both sides of his mouth because he said they had
a deal done back in April, So what changes between
now and then if you're using all of these reasons
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to not give him that extra money that his agent
wanted him to have. So that's the only part with
Jerry where I say, Okay, great deal, but you were
willing to pay him in April, and now you're saying
that you're concerned about his injury history and what games
he missed in paying him X amount of money. I
(14:27):
also think that the deal that they got wasn't the
greatest deal to just get two first round picks and
a player to help stop the run, which they felt
was an issue of need. I felt that they could
have gotten more from another team or even from Green
Bay for Micah Parsons. So that's where I wouldn't let
Jerry off the hook because I feel in a way
(14:47):
he speaking out of both sides of his mouth from
saying that they had a deal done in April and
I thought that he could get more. But ultimately, to
your point, I think that Jerry Jones has a leg
to stand up.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I don't hate this deal for the Cowboys. I agree
with you, I think maybe he could have gotten more,
and what to answer your question first, Jason, I think
that there are only people that are gonna come out
and defend Jerry Jones. Might be Cowboys fans, but if
you're not a Cowboys fans, if you're not a Cowboy fan,
and even this goes well for the Cowboys, Jared, people
don't like to give Jerry Jones credit.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
They just don't want to do that for some reason.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
And the thing that I see here, it's like something
something happened where there was a switch for Jerry Jones,
as we're seeing in this documentary. The minute he felt
like Jimmy Johnson was no longer quote unquote loyal.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
To him, he immediately got the boot.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
I feel like there was something went down with the
agent behind closed doors that right there, something switch for
Jimmy or excuse me, for Jerry Jones, and he wanted
to make the trade happen yesterday. And that's why he
was like two first jounp picks, cool, go ahead, send
him on his merry way, shove it up that agent's ass.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yeah. That's that's the problem with Jared though, for the defenders,
is to have someone who's so emotional, fair to to
like when you're in that position. You can't be that
emotional in Jerry is and I think that's a knock
on his GM duties and in his role as the
general manager.
Speaker 3 (16:16):
It's just hard because right he has had so much
success money wise that like he doesn't he doesn't think
he's doing a bad job. He's like, what are you
talking about? I have a billion dollar team? Yes, I
know I haven't won, but we're talking.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
About it's the most valuable franchise.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
I'm winning here. Where what are you talking about there?
Speaker 1 (16:35):
Take the Luca deal to the Lakers. When you look
back on that deal, what was the worst part about
the deal? I'll tell you what mine is and then
then you can answer. I thought it was the return
return that Dallas got in getting an injured Anthony Davis.
So their concerns of trading Luka Doncic may have been,
(17:01):
may have been legit. Luca now getting into shape tells
us that he wasn't in shape previously, and Dallas may
have had those concerns, but it was the return for
what they got for him where we felt he could
have been shopped to other teams and you could have
gotten more. I don't think it's any different than what
Dallas has right now is Michael Parsons may have a
(17:22):
back issue and he may have an injury problem, but ultimately,
Jerry didn't get maximum value for the piece that he had,
and ultimately, I think that comes back to Jerry Jones
is not doing the job that he should have done
as a general manager to try to squeeze every amount
of juice in a trade that you can get out
of someone of the caliber of Michael Parsons.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
I know there's a lot of similarities because it's Dallas,
poor Dallas fans, but I actually think they're not the same.
Speaker 4 (17:50):
And I feel.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Like, like you said, the Cowboys were not a Micah
Parsons extension away from getting past a playoff win. One
playoff win, they weren't even there, let alone the Super Bowl.
The MAVs went to the finals with Luca because of Luca.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
I don't think it's so much worse.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
The Luca thing is so much worse, and you got
rid of one, the one guy who actually took you
to the finals. Micah and Luca to me are not
the same because the sports are different, not in levels
of skill, but just like what they mean to the sport.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I'm yeah, and I'm not, and I'm not, and I
think it's a very fair point. I think that you're
accurate with it. The point that I'm making is, even
if there was something that Dallas knew about Luca that
they wouldn't be able to continue with, the rest of
the league doesn't know about it. So you're trying to
get you know, what the real value of Luca is.
(18:45):
In who Luca is and why you're getting rid of him.
Everybody else doesn't know. They could have gotten more than
just two first round picks and Kenny Clark from it.
And I think that even though Jerry's right in doing
the deal, I mean, if Micah Parsons is limited and
is juredo throughout the next four years of his of
his contract, then Jerry wins the trade. But instead of
(19:07):
winning thirty to nothing, I felt he could have won
fifty to nothing. Maybe in the end that doesn't matter
if you have that much of a much of a blowout,
but that's kind of how I view it. But I
think I think it's I think you bring up a
fair point that the you know, in comparing the two,
the Mavericks were almost to the mountaintop.
Speaker 5 (19:20):
Jason Stewart now mons. You brought up the documentary. Now
have you have you finished it or you're still.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Three or four it?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Well, I know I'm on episode seven.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Okay, good Dan finished it. I finished it. I very
much recommend it. Now, Dan, as you were as you
were watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press conference trying
to justify the trade and everythink, did it also strike you?
Because it struck me this way that if you watch
the documentary, and you don't even have needed to see
(19:49):
the documentary to see to know this that Jerry Jones
and Jimmy Johnson parted ways for a lot of reasons,
but the main reason was is that they couldn't really
find any any common ground on who would take credit
for the herschel Walker deal. And to this day, Jimmy
Johnson it still irks him to even mention that it
was anybody other than Jimmy Johnson. It's a huge point
(20:12):
of contention. And as I'm watching Jerry Jones stumble through
this press conference on Thursday night, I want to say,
I'm thinking this is Jerry's herschel Walker. Now, if this
deal works out and these draft picks pan out and
Michael Parsons isn't great on the Packers. Jerry Jones could
for once say that he pulled off the deal and
(20:32):
it was his decision. Only you get any of that
vibe out of this.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I think that's a fair assessment. I yeah, I do
get that vibe. I will also say this that I
think that throughout the layers of that documentary, the first
one of the money that he owed to people, not
only in trying to strike oil in Texas, where he
(20:57):
said that this was kind of his last shot or
one of his last shots, because he owed people so
much money, so much so that he was going to
team up with Jimmy Hoffa to try to buy the Chargers,
like he was willing to do these things, but that
they're not as on firm ground as he wants you
to think that they are. So that was the revealing
thing to me, is Jerry is telling us on how
(21:18):
much they were losing money with the Cowboys early on,
with the organization and the millions of dollars that they
were losing. So in all these times where he's made
a big move or made a big splash, he hasn't
been in the catbird seat. And that's how I feel
about this situation. But to bring up the Jimmy Johnson thing,
to have this be his deal. Yeah, I could see
(21:42):
that of him wanting this on, you know, in.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
His obit because we talk about he's emotional, like these
other things. He thinks about it, like as much as
he's a businessman, he is very emotionally involved, and that
would be a victory that he would be able to
claim solely by himself.
Speaker 4 (21:59):
So I totally see that.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Absolutely, it's yes. I think that there are parallels, yes,
absolutely to it. And this could be Jerry's I'm the
one who did the money, remember that, Why did you
get more? Why you could have gotten more?
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Set down?
Speaker 1 (22:15):
She's I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Chris Purfet.
We are telling thank you, thank you. We are drawing
questions out of the the hat of NFL preview. I've
got one right here, all right, you guys ready for
the quick NFL questions. Will Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift
secretly get married during the season?
Speaker 4 (22:36):
I wonder who wrote that one.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, I can tell it's girls handwriting. I can tell
it's it's it's it's girl's handwriting. I'm sure Manzi wrote it.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, and you want to know why, Why because they're
already married.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
No, because Travis Kelcey is committed to focusing on this season.
And what an awful look to think that you're going
to get married between now and February when you said
you were all in on this year.
Speaker 2 (23:02):
That's not completely his choice though.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
That's true. That is very true, Chris Purfect.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Just when when sheesus decides to start putting the pressure
on it. It don't matter what week it is, that fair.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
Point bye week. Keep an eye on them.
Speaker 6 (23:18):
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Speaker 1 (23:28):
Give you on Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. I'm
Dan Bayer. That's Maria Belangos here on Fox Sports Radio.
Just kidding Monzy here, fight her on X at Moncey Belanos.
What's the name of this song? I felt like they
were saying Maria a lot.
Speaker 4 (23:47):
Yeah, Oh, Dan.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Hit her up at Moncey Bolaos. You can find me
at Dan Byer on Fox. Jason Stewart's here, Chris profetis here.
We are drawing NFL preview questions out of a hat.
You've got one, I do. We're gonna hear from Tom
Brady in a second. But Manzi's preview question is will.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Shador Sanders do a postgame interview for a game he
didn't play in?
Speaker 1 (24:13):
Mmm? Interesting? That was my question? That was that was
my question. Imagine how ridiculous that would Shadora doesn't play
and then you go in the locker room and there's
eight reporters around this locker room him.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yes, what'd you think of this?
Speaker 1 (24:31):
What are your thoughts on the twenty four to nothing lost?
Speaker 4 (24:33):
Do you think you should have gone in in the
fourth quarter?
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Yeah? Do you think you will answer the question? It
seems this is a very simple null, but apparently it isn't. Again,
he didn't play in the game. He probably doesn't even
have to shower.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
He better not. How about that?
Speaker 2 (24:50):
He will he even be in a jersey? Will he
even be in pads?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
No? He better not. But I feel like there's the
chest I.
Speaker 2 (25:02):
This this started a whole gambling segment I do on
the weekends. But like, and I'm gonna give you the
over on you guys, the over under on this again?
Over under half a snap for shar Sanders in the
season like this, this over, yeah, over, He'll play at
some point. It's just it's it's fascinating how much attention
has just been beyond the pale at this point.
Speaker 1 (25:26):
Yes, which I think makes my question so much more
ridiculous yet somehow creaky from what mons from Monzi's have
to deal with. So you think you're saying yes no.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
The answer should be answer is no, Whether.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
There's a chance now, I guess.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Then I guess there is kind of like this uh
side bar of of options you're talking about, like an
interview from the team reporters, or even like a national interview.
But I could see some like I don't know, like
uh pop culture website doing an interview that doesn't count,
(26:03):
though that's not the nature of the question, correct now.
It does remind me of second right, right right. It
reminds me of something I posted last week, and I
don't think anyone here Chris doesn't follow me on Twitter,
and I'll try not to take offense to that. And
then you guys both follow me, you didn't share it
or like it, so I'm assuming you just didn't see it.
(26:24):
I sent out a tweet it was quote tweeting the
story that Shador Sanders is an Emergency three for the Browns,
and I said, so his branding team needs to change
legendary to emergency three on all of their merchandise.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
What do you guys think that's like me bounce?
Speaker 4 (26:44):
You're trying to do.
Speaker 3 (26:45):
This with me bounce Emergency three, Emergency three.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
I got my Emergency three T shirt.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Can get a sponsorship with emergency.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
See three.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
You guys are onto something. You're onto something.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
I'll let's talk to some Tom Brady or let's hear
from Tom Brady. We'll be on the call Sunday for
Fox as a Week one in the NFL season opens up.
This is what the hall seemed to be a Hall
of Fame quarterback said about what he looks for in
other quarterbacks.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
That's what I look for all the time when a
quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass. I actually watched to see
who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do?
I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went
down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates,
every time I wanted everyone to feel like they were
part of the success. I told the lineman, we're all
(27:37):
running to the end zone and we're celebrating as a team,
because I think that's way more intimidating than a quarterback
doing his six shooter guns and pointing up in the
crowd and doing all that other that's very self promotional,
but it's not about winning, and I think winning in
football is about a team, always a team attitude.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
First PFF podcast with that, does Tom Brady have a
point when judging other quarterbacks?
Speaker 3 (28:03):
I mean, such a good point. I think he's a
goat for a reason. But that word intimidating. It's interesting
that he chose that word, but I understand what he's saying.
If you're playing against the team that looks like they
are one team, the brotherhood is alive and thriving, versus
individual performances of guys just wanting to toot their own horn,
(28:24):
it is more intimidating to face a team like that,
that a complete team, versus one guy who's trying.
Speaker 4 (28:30):
To get all the credit. Like I feel like you can.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
If I'm playing against a team in a sport and
there's one person who seems to not be cohesive with
the team, I'm gonna try to take them out mentally.
That is the first Domino to fall. Take that one out,
and then maybe the other.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
Starts to fall apart. And so I totally understand.
Speaker 1 (28:49):
That I do look at that. I watch that, I
watch that I watch, I watch postgame handshakes or our
old buddy George Reister who used to team up with
on the network. I joke that they're should be a
velvet rope and a red carpet for people to line
up to shake Tom Brady's hand after the game, because
not everybody does. He can't shake every player's hands, so
(29:10):
like there's a level of and I was somewhat joking.
I was joking, but almost not really, but in a
way like okay, you can't just go up, just like
when Jamison Williams asked for Aaron Rodgers jersey after the
last Lions Packers game that Rogers had, like all right,
you're not getting it, and second of all, you're not
even close to the level of player that would get
(29:31):
that jersey. Like I guess, you know, it never hurts
to ask, But I'll watch that. I'll watch when a
quarterback throws it to his teammate this celebration if there's
thought to be any you know, like rift, like Josh
Allen Stefan Diggs remember when they were teammates in Buffalo
and we thought that there may be was a fallout
if Josh Allen throws him a touchdown? Are they shaking hands?
(29:54):
Are they? Are they? Buddy? Buddy? I watch those things
and I'm actually surprised that Tom Brady does as well.
And Doug Gottlieb here on the network talks about how
he was called out in a film review when he
was playing basketball at Notre Dame and he wasn't cheering
for his teammates on the sideline, and the coach circled
it and said, like, why aren't you cheering? And it's
(30:15):
something that he had never forgotten. I think it is
a big deal.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It is a big deal, and it is shocking to
hear Tom Brady. Sorry, I mean to cut you off,
Tom Brady, to say it like that out loud. Do
you also watch when somebody when a player drops a
pass to see how the quarterback reacts.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
I also look at that too, just to see how
frustrated the quarterback looks.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Yes at times, you know, or is it just like
all right, moving on to the next play, or how
much are they holding onto it?
Speaker 1 (30:41):
I look at who helps up who in an NBA game.
I look at who shakes who's ever hand slapping five
at the free throw line, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I mean you mentioned Doug Doug Gottlieb's example at Notre Dame.
Remember when Lebron broke the all time scoring record and
then Anthony Davis.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Was like not celebrating.
Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, like he was just off to the side, like
just kind of like over it. Like that's something you
we all remember that one. You pay attention to the
little things.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Like this, Yes, and that's what makes Tom Brady got
Brady the goat the Goat. She's Monty Blagos. I'm Dan
Byer in for Covito and Richie. By the way, we're
in for Dan Patrick earlier today. Guys. We'll be back
in their normal spot tomorrow as we get ready for
Week one of the NFL season.
Speaker 6 (31:21):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (31:31):
It's Cavino and rich But the guys, we're in for
Dan Patrick this morning. So you get me Monty Blagos
and Dan Bayer on this Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
It's great to be uh, to be working having a
good time. We are those traveling, please be safe. Yeah
you're home right now. Tomorrow Oh man, that wake up
after Labor Day weekend. Kids are back in school, gotta
go back to work. That's a tough one. Tuesday after
Labor Day is a tough one.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
The worst day is the day after the super Bowl,
not the Tuesday after Labor Day.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
I completely disagree.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
Yes, oh, because you're at the super Bowl every year,
it is.
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Well, I've been fortunate enough to attend a few, and
I still think that this because this is when reality hits.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
You like to start like the school year and like
everything gets back in business.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think the start of the football season is an uplifter.
Yeah you know.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
Yeah, it's also the end of summer, right, Like that helps.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
It's the end of summer that kills me. Yes, And
I think to your point, you're thinking super Bowl is
tough because not only it's the game, but it's the
end of football. I hate the end of summer. I
really do. I love Fall of everything that comes with it,
but the end of summer I become a summer person.
I've said this over like the last decade or so.
I don't know why. I never like appreciated summer, and
(32:55):
now for the last ten years, I just I love
every second of it.
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Yeah, I mean if summer's fine, but September is the
best month.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Of the year. All right, Well, well we are in it.
We are in it right now, in it to win it. Jason,
did you wake up early to send out your normal
tweet of I saw seven hours ago the tweet sent.
Speaker 5 (33:14):
Yeah, it was actually late today.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
It took me a good thirty minutes for someone to
remind me on social media that I hadn't sent it yet.
That's how that's how wired they are. By the way,
fall starts officially on the twenty second of September.
Speaker 1 (33:28):
Yes, so the unofficial end of summer. Right, we got
three more weeks. Do you do you have a question?
Do you need to draw?
Speaker 4 (33:35):
I just remember I was the one who I can draw?
Speaker 1 (33:37):
Yeah? Oh, do you know you guys need a question? Yeah,
we need a crew. What we've been doing is we
threw a bunch of questions into the hat.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
Oh Dodgers, not your helmet.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yeah, but it isn't real because it doesn't have la.
It just says Dodgers on top of it instead of
the logo.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
No, that would be an l a hat.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
Oh boy, here we go, not the whole deal, all right,
Chris Burfett, you want to draw?
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, sure, let's see here. This one's in like the
shape of a crane. I don't know who decided to.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Fold this one gotta be adjacent one.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Who is even positioned as the surprise team this year?
I okay, spoiler this is one I wrote. But oh okay,
I just I wrote this because I feel like looking
at I just we just did the predictions over the
weekend of like the teams, I don't feel like there's
any surprise this year. It feels like a lot of chalk.
(34:29):
It feels like we've come into this year. We do
this kind of every year where we kind of already
pick out who are the teams, but there's not a
lot of room I feel like for surprise teams. If
the Falcons are good, I think we saw the roots
for that, but there's no team like last year was
it was the Commanders. No one was talking about the
Commanders being a good to a playoff, a NFC championship
(34:52):
contender that they turned into last year and I'm looking
around the league, and I'm not sure if there's a
lot of room for surprise teams like that. So I
guess maybe the Cardinals if they shape things up.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
I think that's a good pick.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But like, besides that, there's not a lot of like latitude.
I feel like there we've got a clear upper class
and a clear lower class right now. To the NFL.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I like Chris wrote a question that we would be
like no one, really no one, and.
Speaker 4 (35:20):
He wanted to answer it to no one?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
Did you like freeze the answer like the eighty five
draft lottery?
Speaker 2 (35:26):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:26):
No, who's the frozen question?
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You think I'm smart enough to do something like that.
Speaker 1 (35:31):
I'll I think you're very smart, but maybe not to
those you know, deceitful levels. I will say this, I
think in the divisions where we think there could be
a surprise, the teams are so tough at the top,
like the NFC East. Yeah, I'd be shocked if the
Giants or Dallas made it through, not because I think
so poorly of those teams, but also you have to
(35:52):
navigate through Philadelphia and Washington. He used the Falcons as
an example. Would be would be would we be shocked
if Carolina made this run. I think we'd be very surprised,
but I don't know if we'd be shocked because I
don't think we look at that as a really strong division.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
Fair and you're right on the money. Yes, I agree
with you.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
And I was gonna say, like, are you talking about
divisions to come out of nowhere or like.
Speaker 2 (36:18):
To come out No, just a team to come out
of there, like how the Commanders came out of the
East last year.
Speaker 3 (36:22):
Yeah, I you know, Hey, let's put it on the Buccaneers.
I know they're gonna have some players missing, but I
think the Buccaneers can surprise.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
No, it would because they made the playoffs the last
two years. What are you talking about? Did we already
know the Buccaneers?
Speaker 4 (36:34):
No, to actually come out of the NFC.
Speaker 1 (36:36):
Oh, to go to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yes, all right, okay, Yeah, to actually come out of
the NFC, That's.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
What I meant.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
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