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chants of Monday, but I feel like we could chant
foot boo. I don't care. It's technically week one in
the NFL, right, we got a game this week like
it is week one. We are just wrapping up Week
one of the college football season. Hit Manty up at

(00:42):
Monty Bolanos. You got me at Dan Byer on Fox
Cavino and Rich. We're in for Dan Patrick earlier today.
That's why we are in today. Jason Stewart is our
executive producer. Hello Jason, and Chris Profeder technical producer. What up, Chris,
Let's get a roll in on this Monday because I
just came from America's dairy Land, spent the last week

(01:05):
in my home state of Wisconsin, and they were head
over heels, head over heels when the news broke on
Thursday that Micah Parsons was going to be a member
of the Green and Gold being traded by the Packers
to the Dallas Cowboys. And now it's a whole new
world for the Green Bay Packers as they have an

(01:26):
enormous different and enormous difference maker on that side of
the football to compliment what Jordan Love and the offense
are going to try to do. Bonifid superstar Michah Parsons
now lining up on defense for the Packers.

Speaker 4 (01:38):
You know, before this trade even happened, Dan, we were
sitting here and I had a one liner where I said,
in that division, the Packers should have the most pressure
right now to come in and win it. You are
facing a team that is starting with the brand new
rookie quarterback in Ja Well rookie but not you go
what I'm saying, and JJ McCarthy who spent his first
year injured. You've got the Lions losing both of their

(02:01):
offensive coordinators, and not that I think they're going to
be bad, but I think it's going to take a
minute to get back in their groove with the offensive coordinators.
And then I don't know what Ben Johnson and Caleb
Williams relationship is. I just think they may have similar
personalities where I wonder how truly it's going to come
out on the field for them. And so the easy
team to put pressure on before this move even happened

(02:24):
was the Green Bay Packers. You were already successful last
year in a very tough division and you were basically
running it back, and so before getting Michael Parsons, I
thought the pressure was on them.

Speaker 5 (02:35):
On them.

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Now I'm like, oh, you better come out of the
NFC as a number one seed.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
That targets is on their back. And I think that
most years, Monty, we think it's whoever made it to
the super Bowl from that conference. Like, for as much
as we don't know if the Chiefs are going to
be back or not, the road to the super Bowl
still goes through Kansas City and the AFC obviously with
the egos is the super Bowl champions. I think that
it's a no brainer or would be a no brainer

(03:00):
that the road to the super Bowl and the NFC
goes through Philadelphia. But I think that you're onto something.
I agree when you push in your chips like that,
and we can get to the breakdown of the chips
that were actually pushed in. Just the fact that Green
Bay says we're gonna go and get this player and
get that player changes everything because now it's you're in

(03:24):
You're not only are you in win now mod like
you have been the last couple of years, but you
are now in win big now mode. Now. I think
that you're absolutely right with that target on their back
because of this Micaeh Parsons deal. And there's really now
no more excuses for Green Bay when you push in
all these chips.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
Obviously they saw the pressure, they saw that they had
a real chance to just not only win the division,
but win the NFC and get to the Super Bowl
by making this move for Michael Parsons. But the target
on the back one hundred percent. You you said that,
and I think that's the right expression. That is a

(04:04):
target on the back, which I hadn't worded it that way.
But now with Michael Parsons, Oh yeah, no, everyone is
wanting to take the Packers down because they were already good.
But I'm I see all this on paper. I'm like,
you need to win the NFC on paper. But we
saw the Packers already had a solid defense last year.

(04:24):
Their problems were offense. They kept dropping passes, Like I know,
Matthew Golden. They've got a new rookie receiver hoping to,
you know, come out and be a difference maker offensively.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
But their offense was was sloppy. That's what needed to
be tightened up. Their defense was solid already. Yeah, you
now you get Michael Parsons.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
But I think that it's it's interesting when you bring
up Matthew Golden's name because this all goes back to
a little bit of Aaron Rodgers and just to just
to branch off on that portion of it quickly, the
the moves that Green Bay didn't make when Aaron Rodgers
were there were because they had Aaron Rodgers right like

(05:07):
there was there was so much focus on Green Bay
not taking a wide receiver in the first round and
Aaron Rodgers only throwing one touchdown pass to a first
round pick, which for so long was Marcedes Lewis, the
veteran tight end who's been in the NFL for like
fifteen sixteen years, but that was the only first round pick.
I think those stats were deceiving Monci, but they fit

(05:29):
this argument because I think any NFL team would have
loved to have had Jordy Nelson. They would have loved
to have had DeVante Adams second round pick. Screen Bay
drafted Randall Cobb. I think Cobb was a second or
third round pick. They invested in the weapons, they just
didn't do it in the first round. So then they
go and they draft Matthew Golden in the first round
this year, and then now you go out and you
get a defensive player like Micah Parsons. I think it

(05:53):
says so much about Green Bay and where they think
they are and where they think they are with Jordan Love,
I'm sure Aaron Rodgers is thinking like, oh great, why
couldn't you have done that when I was here? But
Rogers was viewed as the guy of being able to
solve everything. I think Green Bay is a complete team,
like when you look at Josh Jacobs, when you look
at Jordan Love. Their offensive line is intact. Their wide

(06:16):
receiving corps was the question. So you draft Matthew Golden.
But still there's even people trying to convince us how
productive their receiving corps was because you had so many
different guys able to contribute. Now at the start of
the season, it's going to be a question because you
don't have Christian Watson because he's hurt. Jayden Reid is
digged up a little bit, Romeo Dobbs can never stay
on the field. So there's there are names that Green

(06:39):
Bay used to rely on that you're not going to
have early on in the season. But the move to
Micah Parson says, yeah, we're ready to win a super Bowl.
We want to go to the Super Bowl. And for
as much as Philadelphia tries to defend it, if Philadelphia
doesn't win this year, guess what they won to last year,
green Bay doesn't win it this year. To your point,

(06:59):
it's a complete fail because now you're dealing with Micah Parsons,
and you're dealing with the Micah Parsons who right now
entering the season, is dealing with a back injury. So
now you're gonna want to maximize everything that you have
with it, and you don't have two first round picks
because you gave them up as part of the deal.

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Maximize and then at the same time be cautious if
he really does have some sort of injury to his back.
You want to be cautious because you didn't just get
him for this year, you sign him already to a
four year extension, so you're looking at the future. But
bringing up you brought up the Eagles a perfect example though,
but the Eagles are not running it right back. They're
missing five six big players that they had in their

(07:38):
Super Bowl team. The Packers are literally running it back.
And then some yes, it's a little bit different. So
it's like and then there's so much parody when it
comes to the division that the Eagles are in. We
hasn't been a repeat division winner since what the nineteen nineties,
something I maybe off, but I think is idea right,
And so the Packers literally like have no excuses at

(08:01):
this point.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
I agree, I think that there is. And I'm sitting
here because I'm in mid thought. When you look at
Detroit and you kind of laid out the division earlier,
everybody had some sort of subtractions. And we were doing
this game today. If you're just tuning in Monty and
I are with you here on Fox Sports Radio. We're
here a couple hours prior. We've got a basket of

(08:23):
NFL preview questions in our helmet of questions we all
wrote each other to answer for the upcoming season, and
I got a question earlier, who was this second year
quarterback that's going to take a step back, And I said,
Jaydon Daniels, just because I think it's gonna be tough
to match how well he did last year and all
the things that went right for the Commanders are gonna

(08:44):
something's not gonna go right this year. I'm sorry. It's
just bound even out. At some point when you look
in the NFL, we're shocked that Matthew Stafford is on
track to start at quarterback for the Rams this Sunday
against the Texans, and the Rams are the defending NFC
West champions. Sure people think it is stuff with the
forty nine ers and coming back the Buccaneers. I mean,
there's the wide receiver room in Tampa. Chris Godwin's still

(09:08):
trying to come back. Julia McMillan, Jalen McMillan, excuse me,
he's hurt, gonna miss maybe half the season. So there's
all these questions of these teams that you expect something from,
except Green Bay, where they've added and pushed it through.
I think that's I agree wholeheartedly that they have the
target on their back. They may not be the odds

(09:30):
on favorite to go to the Super Bowl. But they
have showed more than any other team in the NFC
that they're all in. But now this Micah Parsons back
situation is one that is I don't think that Green
Bay is overly concerned with the back issue. However, I

(09:51):
also thought the back issue was fake when Micah Parsons
was a member of the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
I'm with you. I thought it was fake too.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
And then even Micah after he showed up in Green
Bay and had his first press conference, he said he
was good to go and that he was gonna play.
He's like, I'm ready, Like, let's go. But now this
that you're gonna get an Ampa jural to see to
help you play, I'm.

Speaker 5 (10:12):
Wondering if the Cowboys knew something we.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Don't know, if it was more serious, I think that
the NFL would have to step in in a certain
way if there was something that was known or something
that was hidden. He obviously would have to pass the
physical with Jane Bay to be able to play. And
he's done that. He's wearing his new number one jersey.

(10:35):
He's been introduced. The trade is done. Cowboys are moving on.
They've got Kenny Clark, that's where we are. However, it
does bring up the point with Jerry Jones on the
reasons to do the deal, and it's funny. The reason
I think that we could talk about the Packers today,
Monci is because I felt that ever since the trade

(10:55):
was done on Thursday, it was all about the Cowboys
and Jerry Jones, that there wasn't this this conversation about
green Bay very much on what it does for the NFC.
But now that the dust is kind of settled on
this deal, it shows you on how green Bay is
all in and how important that this season is for them.
And to have Micah Parsons dealing with a back issue

(11:16):
that may need an epidural in Week one, I think
there would be concerned. Listen, I get it to the Lions,
but considering the guy hasn't been at training camp of
any sorts in that position, why even play on Sunday?
I know, like, you want to make this great unveiling.
And even though the Cowboys were saying like we expect
him to play, we expect him to be there if

(11:36):
they were to play, and you get a couple of
more days because you're not playing on a Thursday you're
playing on a Sunday. I don't think it would be
the worst thing in the world for Micah Parsons to
sit out of that game against the Lions.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
I would not rush it because I feel like back
issues are not something to take lightly. It's not a
sprained ankle, it's not you know, the back can be detrimental,
and I you want him for the long So I'm
with you. Why would you rush him back if he
just got there. He just got there, He's been.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
There a week.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
Jason Stewart's our executive producer.

Speaker 6 (12:08):
Remember Micah Parsons and or his team seemed to take
offense to Jerry Jones talking about his injuries from last
season and the negotiations, so that kind of aggravated the negotiations.
It was kind of dirty pool, I thought, because he
missed what he missed three games with a high ankle

(12:30):
sprain last year, if not more so, his availability was
called into question during the negotiations and then this. I
know it's a different injury and he's not available, but
it does play into this whole thing. What wasn't it
like ninety ten the ratio of people in our industry
who were calling Jerry Jones an idiot for me. I

(12:51):
think Skip Bayless is like the one won voice who
liked the trade, and it's like most of that was
how could you possibly do this? But if Michael Parsons
miss his time this year, say, or if he becomes
a guy that's kind of a guy that isn't available,
like an Odell Belckham Junior or something, will those same
people be like maybe Jerry Jones NWDIO was talking about,

(13:12):
or will they say no, Michael was injured, so we
haven't we haven't been given the full Mica yet. Well,
that was one of the reasons that Jerry Jones specifically
brought up as a hesitation in this deal.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
I think that Jerry was right in his thinking along
that way. I didn't hate the deal from the Cowboys
perspective because I just didn't think that the Cowboys were
a Micah Parson's long term deal away from winning Super Bowls.
At some point, you have to make a tough decision

(13:45):
and not pay someone, and they did. The only pushback
that I would give to that is the conversation around
the league. I think Jerry was founded in the negotiations
with Micah Parsons, but he was also speaking of both
sides of his mouth, because he said they had a
deal done back in April. So what changes between now

(14:05):
and then if you're using all of these reasons to
not give him that extra money that his agent wanted
him to have. So that's the only part with Jerry
where I say, Okay, great deal, but you were willing
to pay him in April, and now you're saying that
you're concerned about his injury history and what games he

(14:27):
missed in paying him X amount of money. I also
think that the deal that they got wasn't the greatest
deal to just get two first round picks and a
player to help stop the run, which they felt was
an issue of need. I felt that they could have
gotten more from another team, or even from Green Bay
for Micah Parsons. So that's where I wouldn't let Jerry

(14:49):
off the hook, because I feel in a way he
speaking out of both sides of his mouth from saying
that they had a deal done in April and I
thought that he could get more. But ultimately, to your point,
I think that Jerry Jones has a leg toy stand up.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
I don't hate this deal for the Cowboys. I agree
with you I think maybe he could have gotten more
and what to answer your question first, Jason, I think
that there are only people that are gonna come out
and defend Jerry Jones. Might be Cowboys fans, but if
you're not a Cowboys fans, if you're not a Cowboy fan,
and even this goes well for the Cowboys, Jared, people
don't like to give Jerry Jones credit.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
They just don't want to do that for some reason.

Speaker 4 (15:23):
And the thing that I see here, it's like something
something happened where there was a switch for Jerry Jones,
as we're seeing in this documentary. The minute he felt
like Jimmy Johnson was no longer quote unquote loyal to him,
he immediately got the boot. I feel like there was
something went down with the agent behind closed doors that

(15:45):
right there, something switch for Jimmy or excuse me, for
Jerry Jones, and he wanted to make the trade happen yesterday.
And that's why he was like two first jounp picks cool,
go ahead, send him on his merry way, shove it
up that agent's ass.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Yeah, that's that's the problem with Jerry though, for the
defenders is to have someone who's so emotional fair to
to like when you're in that position, you can't be
that emotional in Jerry is and I think that's a
knock on his GM duties and in his role as
the general manager.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
It's just hard because right, he has had so much
success money wise that like he doesn't he doesn't think
he's doing a bad job.

Speaker 5 (16:26):
He's like, what are you talking about? I have a
billion dollar team. Yes, I know I haven't won, but
we're talking about it.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
It's the most valuable franchise.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
I'm winning here.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Where what are you talking about there?

Speaker 3 (16:37):
Take the Luca deal to the Lakers. When you look
back on that deal, what was the worst part about
the deal? I'll tell you what mine is and then
then you can answer. I thought it was the return
return that Dallas got in getting an injured Anthony Davis.
So their concerns of trading Luka Doncic may have been legit.

(17:05):
Luca now getting into shape tells us that he wasn't
in shape previously, and Dallas may have had those concerns,
but it was the return for what they got for
him where we felt he could have been shopped to
other teams and you could have gotten more. I don't
think it's any different than what Dallas has right now.
Is Michael Parsons may have a back issue and he

(17:26):
may have an injury problem, but ultimately, Jerry didn't get
maximum value for the piece that he had, and ultimately,
I think that comes back to Jerry Jones is not
doing the job that he should have done as a
general manager to try to squeeze every amount of juice
in a trade that you can get out of someone
of the caliber of Michael Parsons.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
I know there's a lot of similarities because it's Dallas,
poor Dallas fans, but I actually think they're not the same.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
And I feel.

Speaker 4 (17:54):
Like, like like you said, the Cowboys were not a
Micah Parsons extension away from getting past a playoff win
one playoff win, they weren't even there, let alone the
Super Bowl. The MAVs went to the finals with Luca
because of Luca.

Speaker 5 (18:12):
I don't think it's so much worse.

Speaker 4 (18:13):
The Luca thing is so much worse, and you got
rid of one, the one guy who actually took you
to the finals. Mica and Luca, to me, are not
the same because the sports are different, not in levels
of skill, but just like what they mean to the sport.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
I'm yeah, and I'm not and I'm not, And I
think it's a very fair point. I think that you're
accurate with it. The point that I'm making is, even
if there was something that Dallas knew about Luca that
they wouldn't be able to continue with, the rest of
the league doesn't know about it. So you're trying to
get you know, what the real value of Luca is.

(18:48):
In who Luca is and why you're getting rid of him.
Everybody else doesn't know. They could have gotten more than
just two first round picks and Kenny Clark from it.
And I think that even though Jerry's right in doing
the deal, I mean, if Micah Parsons is limited and
is injured or throughout the next four years of his
of his contract, then Jerry wins the trade. But instead

(19:09):
of winning thirty to nothing, I felt he could have
won fifty to nothing. Maybe in the end that doesn't
matter if you have that much of a much of
a blowout, but that's kind of how I view it.
But I think I think it's I think you bring
up a fair point that the you know, in comparing
the two the Mavericks were almost to the mountaintop Jason Stewart.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
Now, Mons, you brought up the documentary. Now have you
have you finished it or you're still.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Three or four it?

Speaker 5 (19:29):
Well, I know I'm on episode seven.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
Okay, good, Dan finished it. I finished it. I very
much recommend it. Now, Dan, as you were, as you
were watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press conference trying
to justify the trade and everythink, did it also strike you?
Because it struck me this way that if you watch
the documentary, and you don't even have needed to see

(19:51):
the documentary to see to know this that Jerry Jones
and Jimmy Johnson parted ways for a lot of reasons,
but the main reason was is but they couldn't really
find any common ground on who would take credit for
the herschel Walker deal. And to this day, Jimmy Johnson
it still irks him to even mention that it was
anybody other than Jimmy Johnson. It's a huge point of contention.

(20:15):
And as I'm watching Jerry Jones stumble through this press
conference on Thursday night, I want to say, I'm thinking
this is Jerry's herschel Walker. Now, if this deal works
out and these draft picks pan out and Michah Parsons
isn't great on the Packers. Jerry Jones could for once
say that he pulled off the deal and it was
his decision. Only you get any of that vibe out

(20:38):
of this, I think.

Speaker 3 (20:40):
That's a fair assessment. I yeah, I do get that vibe.
I will also say this that I think that throughout
the layers of that documentary, the first one of the
money that he owed to people, not only in trying
to strike oil in Texas, where he said that this

(21:01):
was kind of his last shot or one of his
last shots, because he owed people so much money, so
much so that he was going to team up with
Jimmy Hoffa to try to buy the Chargers, like he
was willing to do these things, but that they're not
as on firm ground as he wants you to think
that they are. So that was the revealing thing to me,
is Jerry is telling us on how much they were

(21:22):
losing money with the Cowboys early on, with the organization
and the millions of dollars that they were losing. So
in all these times where he's made a big move
or made a big splash, he hasn't been in the
Catbird seat, and that's how I feel about this situation.
But to bring up the Jimmy Johnson thing, to have
this be his deal, yeah, I could see that of

(21:45):
him wanting this on, you know, in.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
His obit because we talk about he's emotional like these
other things. He thinks about it, like as much as
he's a businessman, he is very emotionally involved, and that
would be a victory that he would be able to
claim solely by himself.

Speaker 5 (22:01):
So I totally see that. Absolutely, it's yes.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
I think that there are parallels, yes, absolutely to it.
And this could be Jerry's I'm the one who did
the money, Parson, remember that, Why did you get more?
Why you could have gotten more?

Speaker 5 (22:16):
Settle down, now down She's.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I'm Dan Byer. Jason Stewart's here, as is Chris Purfet.
We are telling thank you, thank you. We are drawing
questions out of the the hat of NFL preview. I've
got one right here, all right, you guys, ready for
the quick NFL questions. Will Travis Kelcey and Taylor Swift
secretly get married during the season?

Speaker 5 (22:39):
I wonder who wrote that one.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah, I can tell it's girls handwriting. I can tell
it's it's it's it's girl's handwriting. I'm sure Manzi wrote it. No,
and you want to know why.

Speaker 5 (22:51):
Why because they're already married.

Speaker 3 (22:53):
No, because Travis Kelcey is committed to focusing on this season.
And what an awful look to think that you're going
to get married between now and February when you said
you were all in on this year.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That's not completely his choice though.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
That's true. That is very true, Chris Purfet.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
Just when Jesus decides to start putting the pressure on it,
it don't matter what week it is, fair point, bye week.

Speaker 5 (23:20):
Keep an eye on them.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
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Speaker 3 (23:32):
A Happy week one to you. A happy Labor Day.
And I didn't realize, but this is a busy day
for the Canadian Football League as well. Action going on
Labor Day for them. L A b oh. You are
welcome in. It is a Monday here on Fox Sports
Radio if you know. And Rich we're in for Dan
Patrick earlier today. So you got Manci Milanios and myself

(23:55):
with Jason Stewart and Chris Purfett hanging out after an
almost full week of college football. Just one more game
to go. We'll get into that a little bit, plus
week one in the NFL. Buckle up, hang out, have
a good time. Wrap up your extended weekend with us
right here on Fox Sports Radio. What a weekend it was,
What a weekend.

Speaker 4 (24:16):
I can't believe it's September. Really though, really, I can't
believe football season is here. We've been waiting so patiently
for it.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
You realize how quickly it's going to go.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's gonna be a I know, did you say, Mansi
you could be waiting all day for a Sunday night.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
I could be waiting all day for Londay.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yes, absolutely, And it is gonna go by in the
blink of a night. We're gonna be celebrating our birthdays
before we know it.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
Dan, that is true. Yes, January just around the corner.
Something that we all look forward to, those January birthdays
when there's so much to do outside, when you live
in certain parts of the game.

Speaker 5 (24:50):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Know what you do, You go bowling. Yeah, that's what
it is. Bowling. Birthday parties are the thing to do
in January. There was a part of this past weekend
in Columbus, Ohio State knocks off Texas and college football,
LSU wins the Battle of Death Valleys going to Clemson's
Death Valley, and it was also a Battle of the Tigers.
By the way, it was the LSU Tigers against the
Clemson Tigers. LSU gets the win there Florida State with

(25:15):
the upset of Alabama. We had a uniform controversy between
Northwestern and Tulane that one's kind of been cleared up
a little bit, but Tulane taking it out taking their
frustrations out on the Wildcats of Northwestern after Tulane felt
Northwestern didn't allow them to wear their white uniforms to
honor the twentieth anniversary and all the victims of Hurricane

(25:40):
Katrina in the twenty year anniversary of them playing their
first game after that tragedy. So much going on in
college football, but I would say that the ultimate storyline
was happening on Saturday before any games had started, and
that was Lee Corso saying goodbye to college game Day.

(26:04):
So much so that if you missed it. Fox and
ESPN worked out in an agreement that allowed Fox to
carry the live headgear segment being broadcast on ESPN, the
two big competitors joining forces to honor Lee Corso as
the Ohio State band spelled Corso out across the field.

(26:28):
The ESPN crew was fifty yard line in front of
the band as Lee Corso made his final pick and
his final appearance on college game Day. And I didn't cry,
but I could understand why there would be reasons to
be cutting onions. Sure, a very emotional time for so
many that loved college football, and I've loved it for
so long. Lee Corso an absolute staple you put Mount

(26:52):
Rushmore of, like these iconic media personalities is really what
it is. And Lee Corso's on that we said goodbye
to him on Saturday in his final broadcast.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
College football and lea course will kind of go hand
in hand. And the fact that you said ESPN and
Fox were like, Yeah, this is such a big deal,
You're both going to be able to have this content
that just goes to show how big he is in
the world of college football and the respect and the
respect there are things that there are talents that come
along and people work for different networks, and I mean

(27:25):
John Madden worked for all of them, Like I mean,
he truly did.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
NBC, ABC, Fox, CBS worked for all of them, and
everybody has their piece of it, but Courso was such
an institution. And honestly, before Fox got big into college football,
it was ESPN who really really had their arms around it.
I mean, CBS obviously had a role, and we always
knew the CBS theme song, but to have it on

(27:50):
a twenty four hour a day network, to have it
starting at noon Eastern and you're going way past midnight
that night with College Game Day, Final and the shows
that they would put on ESPN, to their credit, has
helped take college football to a certain level, and Lee
Corso was a huge piece of that. And it just

(28:10):
got me the thinking of not only of other personalities
in his role, because I think John Madden is a
is a very fair one to put, but those personalities
and just finales in general, of the final one. I mean,
we just had a recent one in the NBA where HB.
Brown called this last game for ESPN, So you have

(28:32):
that sort of farewell. There are a lot of farewells,
and that's what got my mind thinking of what are
the farewells that stand out to you? Eight seven, seven,
nine nine on Fox eight, seven, seven, nine, nine to six,
six three sixty nine. We know how Cavino and Rich
love to get you involved, and we'd love to hear
from you as well. If you want to hit up
Moncy at Moncey Belanos, you can find me at Dan
Byer on Fox. The farewells of farewells occurred with Lee

(28:56):
Corso on Saturday, but there are a lot of other
farewells that end up standing in your mind.

Speaker 5 (29:02):
I mean, immediately when you mentioned farewell and I'll never.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Forget it, let me write it down, let me write it.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
Okay, Okay, I'm going away from sports, I am because
immediately when you were talking about big farewells, one that
I'll never ever forget was the end of Friends.

Speaker 5 (29:21):
Did she get off the plane? Did she get off
the plane?

Speaker 4 (29:24):
I got off the plane and the door opens with
her And that was the second to last episode two.
Then I believe it was the second to last one
for their big farewell But like that, the way Friends ended,
it was like there's not many shows that I think
wrap up nicely and have a nice farewell and actually
close the chapter and close the door.

Speaker 5 (29:45):
They literally closed Monica's door.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
Cry, I did I guess I did.

Speaker 4 (29:50):
And sometimes I'll be watching it and I'll still get
a little like emotional because I just remember, I feel
like I go back in time being at home and
watching that on a Thursday night.

Speaker 5 (30:00):
So was it thursdays?

Speaker 3 (30:02):
So Rachel gets off the plane. Rachel gets off, Yes,
to be with Ross again.

Speaker 5 (30:07):
Yes, she doesn't go to Paris. She was going to
Paris on a new job.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
And then she gets off the plane after Ross tries
to go stop her at the airport and then he
tells her I'm still in love with you, and she's like,
I can't do this right now, I've got to go,
and then she goes and she gets off the plane.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
I never liked them together in the show. I felt
they were better when they were apart than when they
were a couple. Well, that's that's again the best. You know,
this was seventeen pages front and back, and I'll just
read your letter like those are the best. When they
were they were splitting.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
Up, when they're fighting.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Yes, I love That's why I love so I get it,
like your point of them, like putting the.

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Perfect They just wrapped it up like there is no
questions left after how they ended that when you have
other shows and you're like.

Speaker 5 (30:56):
Really, this is how you ended it. There's so many
questions left, there's.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
A lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure.

Speaker 5 (31:02):
With those yes, with those yes totally.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
And if you can make your core fan base happy,
I think that that's satisfies.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
I didn't watch Game of Thrones, but apparently that one sucked.

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Everybody was real mad about that finite as our producer
Jason is not in his head.

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Yes I didn't watch that, but people are real mad
about that one.

Speaker 3 (31:18):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (31:18):
Game of Thrones was awful. The entire season. Their entire
final season is dreadful.

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Here's the great thing about I for me with Game
of Thrones is we watched it all via streaming. They're
like like catching up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I watched with
eight years prior. Yes, I did not did not watch it.
I don't think I would have been able to. So
to watch that show, just to be able to go
to another episode was magnificent. The problem was is when

(31:46):
I saw the ending on social media, because we had
just started watching the show, I knew what was going
to happen at the end, or at least how it
was going to happen at the end. Which ruined the
ending for me a little bit. But I from your
experience and what you guys are saying, I remember there
being enormous backlash to how it wrapped up. Is that

(32:07):
going to be your finale? Jason that no? Remember No.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
In fact, I'm amazed because I was in my head
thinking about all of these sports farewells, and I'm just
amazed at how great you guys are at weaving pop
culture into your sports. It's pretty incredible because I didn't
even think that was an option to go with the friends.
You guys are just your your magicians.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
I thought that there was I wrote down a different
one for Manzi. I thought it was going to be
sports wise. I think when you talk about recent sports farewells,
I think the place that we go to is Kobe,
like that's the and now, obviously with what has happened since,
it's even more so in our mind. But even that
night overshadowed the Warriors winning the record seventy three seventy

(32:57):
third regular season game completely dominate everything. And I think
sports finalees like if you bring up like one of those,
it's yeah, it's tough to beat that.

Speaker 6 (33:08):
It's so rare to get an athlete have with an
amazing farewell, because so many athletes don't determine their farewell
or it's it's in retrospect. So the Kobe thing was
very much planned. We knew what his final game was.
They weren't making the playoffs. This was it. And then
he had that speech at the end where he dropped
the mic. I think we played within the last year

(33:31):
parts of that farewell speech, and I it brought tears
to my eyes because he mentions his daughter in that
farewell speech, and then like looking back, it was like
I remember in the moment, it was powerful. And then
even if you watch it now, I dare you not
to cry. But along those lines, locally Los Angeles based,
we knew it was coming to an end. But Vin

(33:53):
Scully's final season and his final broadcast, I want to say,
Kevin Costner like hosted this long ordeal and it was
to me that entire season was sad for me. Vin
Scully was the soundtrack of my childhood and I just
remember getting at times just emotional as we went along.

(34:14):
This will be the last time he'll be here, This
will be the last time he does this. Uh. That
was a big sports farewell For me, that was like
that was closing the book on a part of my life.
And I think a lot of people shared that feeling.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Was the final game in San Francisco? Was that the final?

Speaker 1 (34:32):
I think so?

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah that he yes, that he called I believe it
was in San Francisco. But the farewell here at Dodger Stadium,
he sang, he didn't he sing to the fans.

Speaker 5 (34:41):
Yeah, like he literally sang to the fans like what.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
A bad job by Major League base.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Absolutely well, they wanted they wanted it to be the
Giants because at the first, you know, the Giants and
the Dodgers in New York, and like that's how he
kind of started back there.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
We started with the Dodgers back in New York.

Speaker 4 (34:56):
So there was a bit of history there that wasn't
completely dropping the ball.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
But you're right, like the last game should.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Have been on the Dodter Stadium, but there was a
historical reference of him calling the last game against the Giants.

Speaker 3 (35:08):
Yeah, at least then an end in Miami. But yes, yeah, Marlins,
Marlins fans, I'll go unless Chris has got a farewell?
Yeah you got one, Chris.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
I do, I do. I always remember this one and
I just I don't know why, Like I'm not a
fan of the team, although my grandfather was, but it's
always seared into my brain, probably because he was a closer,
Mariano Rivera, because his entrance, his walks the mount, everything
was always so iconic that there was always this pageantry

(35:42):
when Mariano Rivera comes out enters Sandman and you know
that that's like, here's your doom, here's your doom. You
can't win. They're sending out Mariano Rivera to mow your
team down. And there was I don't remember the context
of the game, but he basically couldn't finish the game.

(36:02):
But it was the final game Mariano Rivera was going
to play, and they sent out and there was there
was a point where they sent out Jeter and and
pet and he petted out to the mound to get him,
and it was just this it it felt like a
Hollywood moment. It felt like, you know, this very bittersweet
moment of like this is it. This is the end

(36:25):
of this generation of Yankees players. Uh, they got to
linger out there, and obviously the cameras linger on everything.
There's the emotion between these guys who have you know,
played all these playoff series, gone to the World Series,
won the World Series together, just it it seared into
my brain as one of the few moments in reality

(36:47):
that actually feels like it could have probably been in
a movie.

Speaker 3 (36:50):
I I got teary eyed. You're talking about the Yankees
with Jeter's gatorade ad remember that, Like I was just
like and I was no Derek Jeter fan. I was
not a Yankees fan by any means, but you know,
because he's also like he's the last of an era.
Like when you're the last of an era, I think

(37:11):
that there's a lot of luggage that you carry with you,
and I felt that Jeter was of that era and
just hearing the Obviously music does it as well when
you put it together, but I remember I got emotional
with that.

Speaker 4 (37:23):
It hits a little different, yes, with music, absolutely, but
even Derek Jeter his final game where he walked it
off against the Orioles, like that was his final.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
At bat, I believe at Yankee Stadium.

Speaker 4 (37:34):
So it's just like, there's that's a perfect way to
also end it. You couldn't script it better for Derek Jeter.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I know Jason is a lover of documentaries. I don't
know if you've seen this one, but the Roger Federer
Twelve Days, covering Roger Federer's final matches of his professional career,
very very well done and Amazon if you're looking for it.
But what I what struck me so much about it

(38:01):
was because it wasn't at US Open, it wasn't at
a Wimbledon. It was they were at matches in I
believe it was in It was in London. It was
in New York or London. The point being what stood
out to me was how much Rafael night Doll was
emotionally invested. Like you would understand sometimes guys can put
up a brave front and sometimes they're unable to and

(38:24):
may break down. But to have someone be your rival
and competitor to not be able to keep in your
emotions into to sob now that you're.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
It's all, yes, I remember this now, yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah, like it was truly.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Yeah, literally he was sobbing and.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
There was you know, there's so much to it, but
you knew that this was going to be the end.
It wasn't like did he get ousted in the semi finals?
You know this was this was going to be the match.
This was going to be the end of the career,
so you had a set date. They were able to
cover those final twelve days and everything that came with it.
But to see how the other competitors were so emotionally

(39:02):
moved by Federer's retirement was something that always stuck with me.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Yeah, that's a good one. I forgot about that one.

Speaker 6 (39:08):
It does remind me of that that whole chance to
say goodbye thing, right, I mean, Federer had obviously announced
that this is it, and it gave everyone a chance
to kind of get their ducks in order to say goodbye.
Most athletes never get that chance. Most head coaches don't.
And it reminds me of the Patriots. I thought that

(39:32):
Bob Kraft. I thought he did Belichick dirty at the
end of his final season. I think everyone kind of
knew that was going to be Belichick's last season. In fact,
he probably could have been fired before the season ended,
so maybe Kraft extended him the courtesy of not doing that.
But I don't remember there being any kind of goodbye
from the Patriots fans. It was never announced, and maybe

(39:54):
Belichick got something to do with this, but it was
just kind of weird, right, You have the greatest head
coach in the is true of the NFL, and that
you know, our most contemporary dynasty and no one ever
really said goodbye. And I think that was because of
Bob Kraft.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
There's you know, you look back, that's why like like
Peyton Manning's farewell is a super Bowl win, Like who
doesn't want to go out like that way in winning it?
But more times than not you have losses in games,
and unfortunately in Belichick's tenure, it just got to be
so sour at the end that there was no opportunity

(40:29):
that fans actually wanted the person to leave. Like that's
there's there's there's such a balance with that. The TV
show aspect the finales, that the best finale that I remember,
and I think that the Friends won is pretty good.
But I'll never forget when Cheers ended again this is
a little before your time, but just to just to

(40:52):
have Sam Malone, you know, tell the customer that you
know the bar was closed, you know, sorry, we're closed,
and then he walks off getting emotional just thinking about it.
But that episode was like wow. And Cheers is one
of those shows too that I had more appreciation of
as I got older. Jokes. I understood jokes that they
made in the show that I didn't understand when I
was younger. But for the Seinfeld one that was panned

(41:15):
so much and people not liking the ending, like, there
are some really good ones, and the Cheers one stands
out to me.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
Sticking here with TV shows, I didn't watch Cheers, but
I do know that final scene and people talk about it.
The Office the farewell to Michael Scott so not the
end of the Office. The farewell to Michael Scott was
Chef's kiss. Once Michael Scott left the office, I had
a rough going trying to, you know, enjoy.

Speaker 5 (41:43):
It as much.

Speaker 4 (41:44):
And then they do wrap up the show again and
they bring Michael Scott back, you know, they bring him
back for just like a hot second and they wrap
it up. That's fine, But the farewell to how they
said goodbye to Michael Scott, I think they executed that
really well.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
Those are spots too where the actors know where like
the emotion comes in when you know what's really happening.

Speaker 4 (42:07):
Yeah, it's not to cut you off, but like there's
a scene where he says by to Pam at the
airport because he's leaving to go be with Holly, and
there's a scene where he's talking to Pam and they
talked about it after that they had that moment they recorded.
Then there's no sound and they by themselves, like they
really said by to each other, but they didn't have
the sound, and the actors both were like, it was
really sweet because we knew they were recording us, but

(42:28):
we knew they couldn't hear us, so we had our
own little go bye while being filmed, and that's what
they showed. And then they also sing to him using
the song from the musical Rent three hundred and sixty five. Right, yeah, yeah,
they sing that to him and he did not know
that was happening. That was on the spot, So they
did a lot of things just kind of on the spot.

(42:49):
I thought that was a well done farewell for Michael
Scott in the office.

Speaker 6 (42:53):
Most of these relationships, by the way, and because of
contractual reasons or because the actor or creators have had
some kind of friction, so most actors don't need to
don't get to have that farewell. Most are just kind
of written off, and like what happened to George Clooney
in the r oh Okay, so to actually have those
moments are so rare where a popular show loses its

(43:17):
most popular figure. They know they're going to continue, but
they could say goodbye to the named person. Good very rare.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
Right, that's a great point. I couldn't even tell you
what happened on the last episode of the Office.

Speaker 4 (43:29):
Dwight gets married with Angel and it's supposed to be
Jim is supposed to be the best man, and Jim's like,
I can't be your best man, and then here comes
Michael Scott. Oh, that's that's kind of like how they
do it?

Speaker 3 (43:43):
Sure, and then Jim looked at the camera.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
And was like, and then Michael Scott says, that's what
she said, and then like, that's literally I think it
is one line in that episode.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Yeah, completely lost on me because it was memorable. It
wasn't you kind of spread away? Can we can we agree?
The most memorable is Sopranos, Like for just I mean,
it's the conversation that just continued because of the lack
of closure. I didn't even watch it.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
And I didn't watch it, so I was like, I
don't know, should I watch it?

Speaker 5 (44:19):
Is it that much?

Speaker 3 (44:20):
But still the conversations that came from of fans and everybody.
It's it's not exactly of where were you at this
point or you remember where you were when this happened,
but I feel that there are so many people of
Like I remember I was watching and a Thelmo cable
went out. You know, I didn't mean to do that
in a New Jersey accent. Sorry Cavino and Rich Sorry Spot,

(44:43):
sorry about that, but that's what I felt like was
one that even if you weren't invested in the show,
you had some sort of connection or feeling towards it
because of the way that it just ended.

Speaker 6 (44:55):
I probably spent way too much time on the Sopranos
and reading a out the Sopranos, and then during COVID
it got kind of a rebirth because during COVID, two
of the character actors did a podcast where they went
each and every episode they covered it, so you could
watch the podcast and then you could watch the show

(45:16):
as an accompaniment. It was pot for Sopranos nerds.

Speaker 3 (45:20):
It was amazing.

Speaker 6 (45:21):
So then you start thinking about that last episode, and
it was so controversial and it pissed so many people
off in real time. But I think people have begun
to appreciate the way he ended it, because the creator
of the show wanted everybody to in their own mind,
have their ending. He left it open to interpretation. How
does this series end in the viewer's mind? And I

(45:45):
think it was brilliant. It just abruptly ended with a
journey song and then people are like, well, what happened?
We need to know what happened. But I think that
the kind of the nuance of writing it that way
to where you the viewers, going to come up with
your own ending, such a brilliant way to end it interesting.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
I feel like we the viewers don't like that. We
want you to tell us how it ended.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
To Jason's point, at that minute, you feel that way.
Right time goes on, you're kind of like, Okay, I
think Tony Soprano lives, or I think Tony Soprano does.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
And I feel like you also leave it the door
cracked open in case you wanted to bring the show back.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
Always sure by not completely.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
Right that maybe just maybe, just maybe.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
That's the only good thing about it, but that's not
my style. Tell me how it ends, I'll.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Tell tell me. I'll tell you, yeah, because I know
we got to go to break but this we can continue.
I know there's more. We haven't even talked about music
and bands and farewell tours. In that sort of deal,
I think of coach k.

Speaker 5 (46:46):
Oh that's a good one too, because.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
We know it was coach K's last season, but Coach
K's only way to leave was winning a national championship,
and Coach k ends up going out losing in the
final four to North Carolina, like like like think about that,
Like the career is is dard near unmatched and the

(47:10):
success is great, but the one ending like it's different, like,
oh guess what we we You know, we lost we
lost to Michigan, or we lost to Michigan State, or
you know, they're a tough team we've played throughout the years.
We lost to Texas or something like that. But to
be against your long term rival, and maybe maybe in
a way there was I don't know something fitting with that,

(47:30):
but I always felt like it's tough if you're a
college basketball coach and you're about to walk off into
the sunset, there is only one winner, like in so
many sports, and you're because of the tournament, you're likely
going to end with a loss. And that's what happened
with coach k all right, we got Robert in Las Vegas. Robert,
welcome to Comuno and Rich how you're doing. I was

(47:54):
in college. It was like the super Bowl, the final
episode of Mash. Yeah, yes, most watched, most watched television episode. Yeah, yep,
in history. What what did Robert? Where were you in college?
Did you all gather around the TV and watch the
final episode? Oh?

Speaker 7 (48:15):
Exactly?

Speaker 3 (48:16):
It was my frout house and there were more people
in that tube room than there were for the super Bowl. Great, Great,
that's so good. Reference.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
That is a show very close to my heart because
Jamie Farr, who played what was it Max Klinger on
that show, like from Toledo, personally from Toledo, and like
talked about Toledo a lot in the show, and like
you can still go to restaurants around Toledo and they
have plenty of Mash stuff all over the walls.

Speaker 3 (48:46):
It's the finale still holds the record for the most
viewers for a single episode of a scripted show. Wow
got a sixty point three rating a nineteen eighty three
February twenty eight. Yes, that's now they've been knocked out
by super bowls. Sure, but for the like most watched broadcast.

(49:08):
It's super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl, super Bowl,
super Bowl, super Bowl, mash super Bowl, super Bowl. So
that's what it is. That's when you get when you
look at the ratings. She's Moncey Bolago. So I'm Dan
Byer in for Cavino and Rich here. That's the finale
on our finale is perfect way to end it.

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(49:54):
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We are drawing NFL preview questions out of a hat.
You've got one, I do. We're gonna hear from Tom
Brady in a second. But Manzi's preview question is will.

Speaker 4 (50:12):
Shador Sanders do a postgame interview for a game he
didn't play in.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
M interesting, that was my question. That was that was
my question. Imagine how ridiculous that would Shadora doesn't play
and then you go in the locker room and there's
eight reporters around this locker.

Speaker 5 (50:33):
Room talking to him. Yes, what do you think of this?

Speaker 3 (50:35):
What are your thoughts on the twenty four to nothing lost?

Speaker 5 (50:37):
Do you think you should have gone in in the
fourth quarter?

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Yeah? Do you think you will answer the question? It
seems this is a very simple null, but apparently it isn't. Again,
he didn't play in the game. He probably doesn't even
have to shower.

Speaker 5 (50:53):
He better not. How about that?

Speaker 1 (50:55):
He will he even be in a jersey? Will he
even be in pads?

Speaker 5 (50:59):
No? He he better not. But I feel like there's
a chat.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
I this this started a whole gambling segment I do
on the weekends. But like, and I'm gonna give you
the over on you guys, the over under on this
again over under half a snap for Sarar Sanders in
the season like.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
This this over, yeah, over.

Speaker 1 (51:21):
He'll play at some point. It's just it's it's fascinating
how much attention has just been beyond the pale at this.

Speaker 3 (51:29):
Point, yes, which I think makes my question so much
more ridiculous, yet somehow criky from what mons from Monzi's
have to deal with. So you think you're saying yes, no.

Speaker 5 (51:41):
The answer should be is noll Whether there's a chance.

Speaker 6 (51:47):
Now, I guess. Then, I guess there is kind of
like this uh side bar of of options you're talking about,
like an interview from the team reporters, or even like
a national interview. But I could see some like I
don't know, like a pop culture website doing an interview
that doesn't count, though that's not the nature of the question,

(52:10):
correct Now, it does remind me of a second right, right right.
It reminds me of something I posted last week, and
I don't think anyone here Chris doesn't follow me on Twitter,
and I'll try not to take a best to that.
And then you guys both follow me, an you didn't
share it or like it, so I'm assuming you just
didn't see it. I sent out a tweet. It was

(52:31):
quote tweeting the story that Shador Sanders is an emergency
three for the Browns, and I said, so his branding
team needs to change legendary to Emergency three on all
of their merchandise. What do you guys think that's like?

Speaker 5 (52:48):
You're trying to do this with me? Bounce Emergency three,
Emergency three.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
I got my Emergency three T shirt.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
You can get a sponsorship with emergency.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Three of them.

Speaker 5 (53:03):
You're onto something.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Now, let's talk to some Tom Brady or let's hear
from Tom Brady. We'll be on the call Sunday for
Fox as a Week one in the NFL season opens up.
This is what the Hall it seemed to be the
Hall of Fame quarterback said about what he looks for
in other quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 (53:20):
That's what I look for all the time when a
quarterbacks throws a touchdown pass, I actually watched to see
who he goes and celebrates with, because what did I do?
I looked for my offensive lineman every time I went
down and celebrated in the end zone with my teammates,
every time, I wanted everyone to feel.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Like they were part of the success.

Speaker 7 (53:39):
I told the lineman, we're all running to the end
zone and we're celebrating as a team, because I think
that's way more intimidating than a quarterback doing his six
shooter guns and pointing up in the crowd and doing
all that other that's very self promotional, but it's not
about winning, and I think winning in football is about
a team, always a team attitude.

Speaker 3 (54:01):
First PFF podcast with that, does Tom Brady have a
point when judging other quarterbacks?

Speaker 4 (54:08):
I mean, such a good point. I think he's got
for a reason. But that word intimidating. It's interesting that
he chose that word, but I understand what he's saying.

Speaker 5 (54:16):
If you're playing against the team.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
That looks like they are one team, the brotherhood is
alive and thriving, versus individual performances of guys just wanting
to toot their own horn. It is more intimidating to
face a team like that, a complete team versus one
guy who's trying.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
To get all the credit. Like I feel like you can.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
If I'm playing against a team in a sport and
there's one person who seems to not be cohesive with
the team, I'm gonna try to take them out. Mentally,
that is the first domino to fall. Take that one out,
and then maybe the other.

Speaker 5 (54:51):
Starts to fall apart. And so I totally understand that.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
I do look at that. I watch that I watch that.
I watch, I watch postgame handshakes or our old buddy
George Reister who used to team up with on the network.
I joked that there should be a velvet rope and
a red carpet for people to line up to shake
Tom Brady's hand after the game, because not everybody does.
He can't shake every player's hands, so like there's a

(55:15):
level of and I was somewhat joking. I was joking,
but almost not really, but in a way like okay,
you can't just go up, Just like when Jamison Williams
asked for Aaron Rodgers jersey after the last Lions Packers
game that Rogers had, like, all right, you're not getting it.
And second of all, you're not even close to the
level of player that would get that jersey. Like I guess,

(55:37):
you know, it never hurts to ask. But I'll watch that.
I'll watch when a quarterback throws it to his teammate,
this celebration. If there's thought to be any you know,
like rift, like Josh Allen Stefan Diggs, remember when they
were teammates in Buffalo and we thought that there may
be was a fallout. If Josh Allen throws him a touchdown?
Are they shaking hands? Are they? Are they? Buddy? Buddy?

(56:00):
I watch those things and I'm actually surprised that Tom
Brady does as well. And Doug gottliep here on the
Network talks about how he was called out in a
film review when he was playing basketball at Notre Dame
and he wasn't cheering for his teammates on the sideline,
and the coach circled it and said, like, why aren't
you cheering? And it's something that he had never forgotten.

(56:21):
I think it is a big deal.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
It is a big deal, and it is shocking to
hear Tom Brady. Sorry, I mean to cut you off,
Tom Brady, to say it like.

Speaker 5 (56:28):
That out loud.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Do you also watch when somebody when a player drops
a pass to see how the quarterback reacts.

Speaker 5 (56:35):
I also look at that too, just to see how
frustrated the quarterback looks.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Yes at times, you know, or is it just like
all right moving on to the next play, or how
much are they holding onto it.

Speaker 3 (56:46):
I look at who helps up who in an NBA game.
I look at who shakes who's ever hand slapping five
at the free throw line, all of that stuff.

Speaker 4 (56:53):
I mean you mentioned dog Doug Gottlieb's example at Notre Dame.
Remember when Lebron broke the all time scoring record and
then Anthony Davis was like not celebrating yet, like he
was just off to the side, like just kind of
like over it. Like that's something you we all remember
that one. You pay attention to the little things like this.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
Yes, and that's what makes Tom Brady got Brady the goat.

Speaker 5 (57:15):
The goat.

Speaker 3 (57:15):
She's Moncey Belano. So I'm Dan Byr in for Covito
and rich who by the way, we're in for Dan
Patrick earlier today. Guys, we'll be back in their normal
spot tomorrow as we get ready for Week one of
the NFL season.