The Best Of Covino & Rich

Rich talks MLB Wild Card action & finally gets to vent about the Mets! He talks fans who always want to blow things up when a team fails. Rich fantasizes over Brock Purdy's toe & the crew discusses Tyreek Hill's gruesome injury! There's a deep thought about modern sports injuries that lights up the studio lines. Plus, a fun game of 'WILL RICH'S MOM KNOW' & a hypothetical about Burrow/Bengals fans that goes off rails! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, thanks for listening to the best of Cabino and
Rich podcast. Be sure to catch us live every day
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
On Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Find your local station for Debino and Rich at Fox
Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day
on the iHeartRadio app I searching FSR. This is on
my mind because I just went by the way. I
went to the liquor store, not because I'm boozing. It's
the closest place that sells these little Starbucks drinks. And
my wife on our credit card bill, She's like, why

(00:33):
are you going to the liquor stor every three days.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
I'm like, no, babe, I'm not boozing.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
I promise you a nice cover story. I know.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
So I got a little coffee drink.

Speaker 4 (00:41):
By the way, is there variable pricing at that liquor store?
Because you can buy one thing one day and it's
three nineteen, and then somebody else is working and it's
three ninety nine.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Dude, this is the little crappy Starbucks can It should
not be anything more than a couple bucks four to fifty.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
It'll be four to fifty. Ye, then tomorrow somebody knew
we'll be working there. It'll be fun ninety nine, trust me,
and then three fifty the next day. Oh yeah, they
got you.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
They just had a look at you. I lived in
Times Square.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
I know that sounds crazy, but for a year and
a half of my life, my wife and I lived
in Times Square because I was doing radio and television
in Midtown Manhattan, and it only made sense to live
where I was working because I was going back and
forth a lot to the studio. I'd go to the
deli across the street and get like a bacon, egg
and cheese on a bagel, and they made a different
price every time. And I finally said to the guy

(01:29):
I live across the street, I'm local, and he's like,
oh okay, And I had a better price from that
point on because they say they you know, they see
tourists all.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Day and they're like, bacon, egg and cheese, twelve bucks.
That'll be uh ninety four dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
Exactly, And then you know they'd be like, eh, five bucks.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I want the local discount.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
So here's where I have a dumb question, and then
we'll get to all my deep thoughts today. Thanks for
hanging Cavino's swimming in a sonote somewhere and base on
our Mets Yankees.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Bet half his vacation was on me. So enjoy convi.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
You know, go get a massage. I go to get
my little can of coffee and I see they have scratchers. Now,
I'm not a scratch off lottery guy. My grandfather was,
I think every World War two old old guy from
the old the timey times was I've never bought a scratcher,
maybe in twenty years. But they had a ten dollars

(02:25):
ticket and it was said million dollars and they were
forty nine ers.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It was like a big forty nine ers logo. And
I said, you know what.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Let me get one of those, boy, And the guy goes,
ooh for the lottery. It's cash only. Now, I'm honestly
it's on my mind that that one ticket that I
couldn't buy, that I was going to buy is a
big winner.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
It's your destiny, my destiny.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
I almost want to be like, please, can you put
that one? I almost want to call him during the break,
and they.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Put it aside.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Go to the ATM, pay the five dollars ATM fee
just to get the cash out to buy that just
scratch off a millionaire.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Oh you know what they could be.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
You never know, you never know. All right, well, hey,
welcome to Coveno and Rich. Those are the dumb things
I think of, and there's plenty more today. We're gonna
have a lot of fun. But as we watched Wildcard Baseball,
congrats to the Tigers. Schooble did what schoobl supposed to do. Right,
you're you're cy young, your ace. Look at that in
the ninth they caught the Guardians in a little pickle

(03:22):
between disd and Home.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
It was, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
Playoff baseball, two to one, schooboll going seven to two thirds,
which is again what an ace should do. So congrats
the detroit they're up one to Oh maybe they get
back on track in the postseason. Now I saw that
the Cubbies beating the Padres two to one, and you'll
have Wildcard Baseball all day. So to bum because part
of me assume that this week, Danny, you and I

(03:48):
we'd be battling Mets Dodgers. But that didn't happen because
the Mets had every opportunity on planet Earth to back
into the playoffs. The Reds were not some power house team.
When your team fails and you know, neglects to make
the postseason, if some other team went eighteen and two

(04:10):
over their final twenty and it's like, what are you
gonna do? They were just that good, They were inspired,
Like like the Cleveland Guardians, they just got so good
at the end of the year. You can't it, can't
help yourself, but say, and they deserved it. The Reds
did nothing to deserve this. It's almost like the consolation
prize for the Mets sucking so bad over their last

(04:30):
eighty games. The Reds were forty and forty. They're a
five hundred team. In fact, Danny g you sent me
a meme yesterday that aggravated me even more. Do you
want to read some of these fun facts about this
Cincinnati Reds team that if your Dodgers don't sweep immediately, you.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Should be embarrassed.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, let me pull that up here.

Speaker 1 (04:46):
I think it was like, not one pitcher with fifteen
or more wins, Not one batter batted two seventy or higher.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
Yeah, no qualifying batter hit two seventy or above. No
batter hit twenty five homers, no pitcher one fifteen games,
no picture on the Reds notch two hundred strikeouts.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
So it's even more embarrassing when you look at what
Steve Cohen tried to put together with David Stearns in
New York and then Mets fell short. I will not
make this all about my Mets, I promise you, but
it's just the latest example of a team that spends
a lot of money and it doesn't work out the
way the fan base and ownership wanted. Here's the question.

(05:26):
At the trade deadline, we remember what was the big
thing up. Mets and Padres won the trade deadline. Mets
got Hellsley, they got some relievers, they got Mullins in centerfield,
and at that time I was like Mets made some improvements.
Those guys all ended up sucking. A major case of
the sucking queens. Is that David Stearn's fault. He made
the moves Mendoza. Do you blame the manager? Is that

(05:48):
who falls on the sword? I have met fan friends
that say things like, well know you gotta do no,
gotta blow the whole thing up. Everyone's gotta go. So
I want to start there today and the way we
will get to Tyreek Hill. I have thoughts on him,
and I think you look pretty happy for a goud
that got injured. I think he's happy that his days
in Miami are done. He'll start next year, and I

(06:10):
guarantee it's not there. There's updates with him. Drew Rosenhaus
has given some updates on Tyreek Hill. But when your
team stink stanny. If the Lakers, you know, are a
low seed in the playoffs, early exit, and of course
a lot of people in LA will say things like
you got a new coach, revamp, knew everything.

Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, this has happened in recent years.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Actually, do you subscribe to this or do you say no, no, no,
you don't need to rebuild and blow the whole thing up.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
You just need to revamp. Depends on the leadership of
the team. If it seems like it's rotten to the core,
then that's when, you know, fans with higher IQs would
be like, well, something's got to change from the top down.
But if you have all the right pieces in place
and there was just a lot of underperformance going on,
then it's a different story.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I mean, call me naive. I really feel like sometimes
you just have bad luck. I know you say bad
luck for three four months since June when the Mets
stunk like third worst team in baseball. That's a long
period of stank stank. That's like the Great Stink of
eighteen fifty eight, which we've talked about before. But does

(07:21):
there come a point where you say, hey, man, the
talent's there, run it back. It's just everything went wrong.
They had no comeback victories. Only team in baseball this
year to not have a ninth inning comeback. That's insane.
What are you gonna do? You just signed Wan Soto.
Lindor is clearly the fan favorite. Everyone's gonna want you
to resign Pete Alonzo and give him the money that

(07:42):
he clearly has now earned. Nemo's signed for like a decade.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
What do you do?

Speaker 2 (07:48):
Do you not run it back with a core of
a team.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Do you really start saying, well, they didn't make the postseason,
they only won eighty three games, let's blow it all up.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
It's it, seriously is situation by situation. Because of what
you just laid out, you would think that the change
that you could make would be at the managerial spot.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And then so what they did.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
They immediately said, oh, Carlos Mendoza will be back. So
what would have been the sacrificial lamb, so to speak
for the fan base, right, like, well, all right, they're
doing something. You think of all these bone heads and
queens that I root with, Right, Yeah, Mendoza's gone, and
Sterns gets a little slap on the wrist like, yeah,
you're warning, warning, Sterns. We know you rebuilt Milwaukee, but hey, hey,

(08:36):
none of that happened. So you're especially with Roco Belldell Madelli,
Bochie Ron Washington, aren't a lot of you know, there's
manager options. Plus guys were not even thinking about to
immediately say Mendoza's coming back.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, it's interesting you mentioned the Brewers, and as a
Brewers fan, not nearly as much of a Mets fan
as you are. But I go back to two thousand
and eight when the team was trying to end their
playoff drought from nineteen eighty two, and they had everything
going for them and all of a sudden they hit
this slide and Ned Yost had a lot more equity

(09:10):
within that organization than Carlos Mendoza does with the Mets.
But the Brewers are trying to end a twenty six
year postseason drought.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
So you're thinking about your baseball go but roubben Yel's
name any like it's been that long.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
Yes, at that time, you know, and you're thinking at
that point, like, we can't miss this opportunity. The change
that we need to make because we're sliding. Is they
were competing with the Mets that year for the wild card.
When you're looking at that position. They made the decision
to fire Yost because if they didn't make the playoffs,
he wasn't going to be back the next year and

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you needed to salvage something. So Dale Swam ended up
taking over and they saved the season. They ended up
making the postseason and ending the drought, and everyone was happy.
The outcome was though, if you don't make the playoffs,
Yost has gone anyway, so let's do it now. I'm
surprised it didn't happen with the Mets because of the
slide that they were at, and then it didn't happen. Then,

(10:05):
like to make the move to say we need to
make a change is probably the reason why they are
keeping him for next year, which doesn't make a lot
of sense.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
I assume he's very popular with the players, but then again,
but then again, like maybe that's not necessarily always the
best thing, right Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
And I get like the like the Marlins lined up
the weekend to beat you guys, Oh yeah, like you know,
like they set up their pitching staff the way it is.
But there is something that I think is so poetic
and not in a good way for you for the
Mets to not score any runs on the final day
of the season. And so at that point something has
to be done. And so that's why I'm not saying

(10:41):
you can't blow it up with everything that you've got committed,
but you had to at least make a change to
signify this is why it happened. This is what we've identified.
And maybe that perception may not be reality, but it
feels like you're at least addressing the problem at a
low cost of firing a manager, which happens a lot
in Major League Baseball.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
It's a low cost, you know move and a fan
reactive move to get rid of a manager. It might
not be you know, always right, Manards is not playing,
the GM's not playing when like Danny g when Stearns
goes out during the trade deadline and you know, acquires
bullpen help and Mullins in center field at that time

(11:21):
you even agree that they were like man, Metsa made
some good moves.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I saw headlines that said the Padres and the Mets
were the trade deadline winners.

Speaker 1 (11:29):
So if he made the moves that made sense on paper,
could you then blame the GM or is that like
because now you're saying, like, well, the GM's not responsible,
but we're bringing back the manager.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
He's not responsible. Who's responsible? Then?

Speaker 1 (11:42):
And again, don't make it about my Mets. If you
don't want to, just think of your own team. If
your team is not doing well, do you say who's
the core players? These guys are under contract and it
know what, it makes me think of annoying fan pet Peeves,
Which is where I sort of want to go with
this because there's so many people that loved to say,
get rid of this guy, get rid of that guy,

(12:03):
fire this guy, do this, And the answer is never
simply that contracts, no trade causes, all these things are there,
and get rid of Nimmo. Yeah he's locked up until
twenty thirty something. Are you gonna trump find a trade
partner and then approve it through him? And then who
who's playing.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
Outfield for you?

Speaker 1 (12:24):
What do you the guy that you thought was gonna
be captain for the Mets. Lin d'Or fan favorite. Every
kid's got a number twelve shirt. You're gonna say goodbye Francisco.
Let me find another elite shortstop. The Mets have so
much talent it's disgusting offensively how they couldn't get the
job done. Is it safe to say sometimes you just
quote run it back and hope you have better luck.

Speaker 3 (12:48):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 4 (12:50):
I would say this. I think this year what should
have been the Mets last year, and last year should
have been the Mets this year. Yeah, So if you
want to go, I'll go with ball don't lie theory.
So the Mets shouldn't have made it to the NLCS
last year. I mean, they probably shouldn't have beaten the
Brewers in having the heroics that they did. That was
also a year last year that I thought that the

(13:11):
we thought as a collective group that give David Sterns
a year. They weren't going to be spending a lot
of money and it was going to be leading up
to twenty twenty five. I would take as the ball
don't lie theory in that case, if that's what the
Mets are going to do, I just don't think the
reason why I thought earlier you make the change at
the managerial spot is because I don't know how much

(13:35):
equity he built up last year. But if you want
to look at it from a twenty thousand feet view,
I think that that way of last year should have
been this year, and this year should have been last year.
It's probably the way you rationalize it if you're Steve Cohen.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I just can't wrap my head around it. As a fan.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I feel like today when I watched Danny g and
Bow and Bursh and everyone here with their Dodger shirts on,
and I know Covino's probably sitting, like I said, on
a lounge chair with his Yankees, you know, swimsuit on
his pinchtripe, little five inch speedo.

Speaker 4 (14:11):
But it hasn't everything, like I know, like the pet
Alnzo situation hasn't worked out. But this is what happens.
Like you got your GM that you've wanted for years
and years and years, right, You've now signed Juan Soto.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
Yeah, in a this is supposed to be it, and
then you know you didn't do though it's just one year.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Like you have all these things that are thought to
be long term decisions, and so I guess that would
be the reason to not overreact or to tell your
buddies to to not blow it up. These are guys
that were brought in because over the long haul, you
feel that you will have more success than you than
you wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yeah, I mean you you get sodo. Like you said,
maybe just last year should have been this year. This
year should have been last year. But if you guys
have any other annoying fan pet Peeves, I would love
to hear him because one of my one of mine
that always bothers me, Danny.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I know.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
I see with Dave Roberts and your Dodgers, people love
to be like fire blank, and it's like, all right,
fire blank and tell me who then.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Yeah, And in a lot of cases nowadays with analytics
in the front office, is holding so much power over
a manager. Dave Roberts a lot of people think is
just a pawn for Friedman. So really he has job security.

Speaker 1 (15:24):
It's really interesting you would say that because I read
an article today in the New York Post. Sorry to
be so mets heavy, but it had to do with well,
maybe Mendoz is safe Danny and Dan Byer because he's
well liked and he was really just putting the lineup
out there that David Stearns in the front office was
telling him to put out there.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
Sure, it's like you know, falling the sword for what
our decisions?

Speaker 3 (15:46):
Do you give him credit for last year? Do you
give Mendoza credit for last year's run?

Speaker 1 (15:50):
They did last year by saying when the Mets started
out so bad and he was you know, he kept
that cool demeanor.

Speaker 2 (15:55):
He got credit last year for that. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
I just think it's very interesting to see New York
fans react when they spend so much money. When you
look at payrolls, the teams that spend money, they're all
in there, except for the Mets, Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies, all
the you know, they're all there.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
Look, I look at the Seahawks and the Pete Carroll
era in Seattle is one that will be remembered fondly
in later years and still to this day because of
the Super Bowl and the success in the places that
they reached that they never did. But you can't tell
me that the past five to eight years of the
Pete Carroll era in Seattle, while it was winning football

(16:33):
most of the time, winning record that it was inspiring football.
Things got old, things got like stale in a way,
and that's holding on to holding on to a coach
that brought your team to the to the greatest of heights.
There probably wasn't a reason to fire Pete Carroll when
they did, or to move on from Pete Carroll, but
you understood the temperature of your organization at that time,

(16:56):
and ownership did make the right move and it's now
going to likely payoffs. I think the Seahawks are a
top ten team this season and Mike McDonald seems to
have that defense right, you know, in a good place.
But they didn't bottom outrech You didn't go three to fourteen.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah they two.

Speaker 4 (17:12):
Yeah, they were just there just was nothing there. So
that's when you have to make the decision. So that's
when you are ownership or that's where you are the
front office. You really have to have a sense overall
of is it blowing it up, is it not blowing
it up, is it tearing it down? Do you just
need a new voice, Because even just with with the
Seahawks on paper, it wouldn't have looked like Pete Carroll
was worthy of being dismissed. Yet everything that you saw

(17:35):
for the past three seasons were probably reasons why he
should have been dismissed.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Then you hear about people that well, they you know,
they they couldn't read the room, and they got rid
of clubhouse guys, guys that really bonded the team and
you and you know, over a long season, you forget
these clubhouse guys, these locker room guys. In football, they
may have more value than you think.

Speaker 2 (17:55):
I heard like j D.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
Martinez and oh my god, Iglesias was a big deal
for the Mets and kept things light. So every team's
got those guys. Maybe you don't value them enough, And
I don't know. It's just it's interesting to see your
team on the outside looking in when there's just so
much talent. It's frustrating all in all sports for that matter,
it really is.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Nigo Horner a sacrifice fly bottom of the eighth inning,
comes now up three to one on the Padres, bottom
of the eighth Well.

Speaker 1 (18:20):
I guess you know, I saved myself money because I
probably would have tried to go to one of these games.
Now I'm doing the rationalization save money playoff games.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Who wants to spend all that enjoy it.

Speaker 3 (18:31):
Yeah, yeah, and Rich really quick to tie in a
couple of teams who played last night. The Dolphins responded
the way we thought they would. We saw them play
hard against the Bills. We saw them play hard last night.
And then I heard Ben Maller on our network screaming
about how the Bengals gave up on coach Zach Taylor.
So there's obviously injury involved in that situation. But there's

(18:51):
a couple of teams like the Titans, the Bengals, Panthers.

Speaker 1 (18:56):
For me, yeah, I from the quarterback himself that the
Titans are Yeah. Quarterback himself told me.

Speaker 3 (19:02):
I was like, wait with NFL, you're talking about your
Mets with NFL such a shorter season, obviously, Oh yeah,
what do you do in that situation? Do you do
you blow it up halfway through and try to salvage
something with an assistant coach taking over, or do you
wait until the offseason?

Speaker 2 (19:16):
I mean, if your.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Team's ass, I mean, we're keeping a book right now,
we ask, Yeah, I mean if your ass I mean
you saw your Raiders. Antonio Pierce came in to try
to save the day, but that doesn't work out.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Long term all the time. The NFL much.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Shorter leash because you're talking about seventeen games, not one
sixty two or eighty two.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
You know, it's a different mindset, you know. I just
want to make one more analogy, then we'll move on.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
I think whether it's baseball, football, basketball, hockey, every sport
where you have a passionate fan base, especially where again
one last Mets note, they broke their attendance record. The
fans really thought you got Soto. They believed in what
this team was building, So you break attendance records. There
needs to be accountability. Danny g Danny, you guys are dads.

(20:02):
When your kid does something, especially as they get older,
when they do something and misbehave, they have to be
held accountable. It's just, yeah, fifteen minutes in the dog crate.
That's what Danny dust a little column. Put him in
the dog crate.

Speaker 3 (20:15):
It's a large dog crate.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Don't nobody like when my kids, you know, Coach Rich here,
when my kids mope around, I say, hey, listen, buddy,
you gotta put I always say energy and effort. That's
what Coach Rich wants. Energy, effort and just play and
have fun. Energy and effort. When that kid's moping around,
I'm like, hey, man, then you ask me, hey, coach,
could I play shortstop or bat first? No, you didn't

(20:37):
put in the effort, effort and energy, buddy boy. So
I think we want to see accountability. And when your
team poops to bed and it's like, oh, don't worry,
coaches will be back and oh the core is still here,
fans don't like that. They want accountability. It's like it's
like a husband that goes to Vegas for the weekend
and you know, bang, some girls spearm at Rhino and

(20:58):
then his wife's like, oh, honey, you silly goose, Like
he should be held accountable. I'm not saying that's a
true story. It happened to me.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
I'm just saying it's happened to someone. I'm sure. Oh
he's will be boys and boys.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yeah, very descriptive, you know.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
And then and then lost seven hundred dollars on Roulette
that night. What I'm kidding, very specific titles. Well, hey,
your thoughts on blowing up the team or running it back?
But coming up next we'll take thoughts on that Tyreek kill.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
Last night we watched a little double doozy the second
game more of a snoozy it was.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
I mean, And by the way, have you noticed every
time I make a bet and don't put the bet in,
what are we like five for five into that?

Speaker 6 (21:36):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Yeah? Five? And oh you didn't put actual money.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
On under forty under forty nine and a half. We
hit that with Jets Dolphins by a point and a half. Thanks,
And I said, Broncos minus one and a half. We
should have just done a straight bet on that. All right,
did we close the book on my Mets for the year.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
We We're done good until Covino returns tomorrow. You know
he's going to have it in for you.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Do I do like a jerk move and payment like singles?
Do I go get a brinkch truck of quarters to.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Actually I went to the bank when I was on
Ben Mallers Show back in like twenty sixteen. I went
to the bank when I owed him a Laker Clipper
bet and I took all the money in nickels. I
got boxes of nickels, and I piled up the boxes
of nickels to pay. Oh he was not happy.

Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah, I don't know, because now then he's gonna bitch
and complain that he has to then go to the bank,
and you know what, I'll just be a man. Can
I get a big check? Should I at least make
it dramatic and try to find like one of those
big checks like I'm Ed McMahon. But then again, someone
told me Ed McMahon never actually had those big checks,
one of those like Mandela effects.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
Are you down for a discount like we were talking
with the listeners on your Carl's page about having you
do something to where you could get like five hundred
dollars off the amount owed.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, I could be bought.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Do you know me? What do you want me to do?

Speaker 2 (22:58):
Well, run around the street naked or something.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Well, oh my suggestion was here on Ventura Boulevard during
an entire commercial break. You hold a big Yankees rules
sign with bells and whistles and either that or a
Mets stink sign.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
No, he just Cavino just won a vacation. He's paying
for his daughter, sweet sixteen, and his ac went out. Cavino,
He's probably gonna try to swindle more money out, any money. Yes,
all right, you know what, Let's go to our buddy
Dan Byer for an update and then We're gonna talk
to some Tyreek killed dB.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
What's going on?

Speaker 4 (23:27):
My friend Danny rich Sam spot. We got a final
at Wrigley, but before it went final, this happened. Kelly
swings and it's a high five ball dp pluff center field,
coming back sheets at the track.

Speaker 2 (23:41):
They're the long dum Comes take the league.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Carson Kelly went back to back with Saya Suzuki Comes
led two to one. That added insurance in the eighth
on a Nico Horner sack fly. They just beat the
Padres three to one to get Game one of their
National League wild Card series. It's a best of three
coming when three to look at Danny g smiling you
hate the Padres.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Huh, I didn't say anything.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
You're smiling a ear to ear. Come on, Manny Machato.
You don't have to be happy anyway.

Speaker 4 (24:08):
It's interesting because the Brewers fared better against the Cubs
this year than they did with the Padres. But you
would think, do you want to face your rival? Do
you want your rival to lose?

Speaker 1 (24:18):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Well right now, three to one, Cubs get that victory.
A lower scoring affair earlier today in Cleveland between the
Guardians and Tigers.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Goobol drops his hands into his motion. The O two
is swinging a mess. Who change up? Gets Johnkins Noel
to start the eighth. Fourteen strikeouts for Terrek Schoobel.

Speaker 4 (24:37):
And seven and two thirds on the Tigers Radio Network,
a career high. It's had a franchise high in the
postseason with fourteen case Tigers beat the Guardians two one.
Cleveland had a runner on third with no one out
in the ninth and the Tigers got out of it.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
Man, Yeah they got.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
They got Jose Ramirez in a rundown after a comebacker
to the picture with one out, and that kind of
say the day for the Guardians. Red Sox and Yankees
coming up. Six Eastern Reds Dodgers nine Eastern. Ron Washington,
who had to take a leave of absence this year
because of health issues for the Angels, will not return
next to her as their skipper. Neither will Interram manager
Ray Montgomery.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Tire act play of the day. You gotta feel bad
for the guy. Tyreek Hill's leg basically snapped in half
and it looked as if he trying to fire up
the crowd. Afterwards, Deryk killed the injured dolphin following his reception,
they called for a cart.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Joe, He's on the cart. Now, all the guys Dolphin
players coming over to the hand.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
The whole sion came over right now, that's not a
good sign.

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(26:09):
And insensitively, I'm sure people like he was on my
fantasy team. He looked pretty fired up, and as the
insensitive memes go, he's just happy he doesn't have to
play for the Dolphins anymore. Of course, now you know
what's interesting injuries like that.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
Timelines.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
I'm always so intrigued when, like when Nick Mosa went down,
I'm like, oh, could it be back by the playoffs?
Then I'm thinking, remember Aaron Rodgers when he was hurt.
His whole thing was I'm training that I'm gonna beat
the odds and remember he had planned to come back
that year had the Jets been competitive. He had the
whole Achilles thing and he's like, yeah, I'll be ready

(26:47):
to roll, and you're like ready to roll. It's never
been done. And I see like, my dude, Brandon Ayuk
with no real end in side, like when's he coming back?
But tyreek Kill, according to Drew Rosenhouse right, Dan Bayer said,
the plan with the right rehab will be the beginning
of the season.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
This is isn't that a lot that's ambitious?

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Now, Oh, it's not only ambitious, it's such an agent
doing his job for a guy that will be available
for teams to sign.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (27:15):
So that's the issue at hand is I wouldn't believe
anything that Drew Rosenhaus is saying, but I am reporting
it because that is what he said. I just think
it's the surgery they had today successful from what we understand.
But like as ayuk situation was, Kyle Shanahan says, guess what,

(27:36):
there was more damage. Are we going to find out
what exactly happened to tyreek Kill's me? Is it just
an acl is it multiple ligaments in that knee? I
think it behooves only Drew Rosenhaus and Tyreek Hill to
say that he is going to be ready for the
start of next season.

Speaker 1 (27:52):
Man, it did not look good. And I always wonder
in those moments, and again, God forbid this ever happens
to any of us playing rex sports or anything you get.
You know, every so often you play softball, basketball at
the gym. You know, you see guys your own age
forty something all a sudden, Ah, I've seen guys rounding
second base and as they always say, look so is
there a sniper in the tree, Like some guy just

(28:14):
ah falls in between second and third base. As we
all get older, not just pros, people have these injuries
and they're brutal.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
You see people.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Twisting these Is the adrenaline pumping so much that while
it is pain, it's more just that adrenaline shock or
do you think it's not to be morbid? Is it
like a constant pain in that moment or is it
more adrenaline in shock? You think when Tyreek Hill is
like waving and pumping up the.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Crowd, shock, right, I mean like yeah, absolutely yeah, in
adrenaline rushing through his body. I'm sure in his mind
and he's got a big ego. We all know that,
but he's thinking to himself, I got to come back
from this. He's in your mind like everything's going in
fast forward, fast foot yeah, and you're thinking about what's
to come. But at the same time, he's trying to

(29:00):
let the fans know I'm all right, I'm gonna be back.
I'm all right, and we're gonna be good in this game.

Speaker 7 (29:04):
Right here, I was telling Danny about this, We were
talking about him like it sort of seemed like one
of those kind of unrealistically positive reactions like, Yeah, I'm
gonna be back from this and no time, it's gonna
be fine. Everything's gonna be good, Mike. I guess to
be a really great athlete like that, you have to
have that mentality.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
Yes, so, But Drew rosenhows, like Dan Bayer said, he
has to be optimistic. Danny, Denise, say, you send me
a little screenshot of what like some of the guaranteed
money that's not guaranteed, or some of the money that
you might have thought, oh, he's gonna get, but there's
not a lot of guarantees for Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 3 (29:34):
Yeah. Yeah, I'll look up that contract info right now.
But as Bayer was saying he's gonna be available and yeah.
According to a spot track, it says his contract contains
one point eight million of per game active roster bonuses
in twenty twenty five, one point four million of which
he'll now miss out on. None of the thirty six

(29:54):
million owed to him in twenty twenty six is currently
guaranteed damn.

Speaker 1 (29:58):
So that's that's yeah, you tell, I mean, we forget
perspective sometimes because these guys make so much money that injury,
you know, could have cost Tyreek Hill thirty forty million dollars.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
There's also there's also the fact of there are some
there's sometimes our injury guarantees and contracts. However, with that
being the final year next year of Tyreek Hill's contract,
not likely to have injury guarantees. So remember when the
Broncos benched Russell Wilson. Yes, there was also the point
of they don't want to get him hurt so his

(30:32):
salary the next year doesn't kick in and then you're
on the hook for that. With Tyreek Hill, that doesn't
apply in this situation.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Tyrek Kill and Drew Rosenhaus.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Their goal now is to recover and put the perception
out there that some new team's going to sign him
to a new deal next year because he'll be ready
to go for Week one. That's wild. So wishing Tyreek
the best. And I want to bring up a thought
that you might think, Rich is this like some did
you have edible last night?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I did not.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
But this is the thought that I feel like I
don't hear enough people talk about. Maybe let me tell you,
Danny G. Maybe it's because I'm not thinking like a
sports stat nerd. I'm thinking more like like a regular
dumb guy. Thought in our lifetime, the amount of Tommy
John surgeries, ACL's achilles, these major major injuries we're seeing

(31:26):
in sports, is there any part of you that thinks
when these sports were developed, we have outgrown athletically the
way these sports were designed.

Speaker 2 (31:38):
To be played on the YouTube.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Right now, you know, I'm gonna call up the YouTube
chaff and say hi to you guys, YouTube dot com.
Slash at Covin on rich FSR. Back to Kavino. He's
the type of guy on vacation that really does activities,
like I saw him crocheting something with his girlfriend. He's
the guy that does all the activities the resorts offers

(32:04):
Macro main is he he's macro may. I don't know
what big difference.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
My grandma would be hyped Danny if the results she
had crochet needles all over the right apart very soothing.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
I think I feel like Kavino's girlfriend, as we know
because we play the game, is a Kavino or Belichick.
Kavino has a younger girlfriend named Jordan, who's in her
early thirties. She pulls him into all these activities like
let's go, you know, let's go play archery, let's go
you know, boarding and stuff. He does these things so

(32:36):
out of his comfort zone. So I'm sure we'll hear
some stories tomorrow. Kavino will be back. But right now
I want to continue my deep thought.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
And then we are going to play will Rich's mom.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
No, we're going to give away some Cavino and Rich
Fox Sports Radio, Nerve Football's. I texted my mom, I said,
be ready in fifteen minutes. We're going to give you
a call. We're simply going to give my mom basic
sports and entertainment questions. And it's really like door boomer
parents know these answers. We'll do that coming up, all right,

(33:08):
But my thought about Tyreek Hill when you see all
these guys baseball, football, basketball, whether it's Kevin Durant or
Nick Bosa, Tyreek Hill, all the Tommy John surgeries in baseball,

(33:28):
ACL's achilles, it might sound like a stoner thought. I
promise you I didn't just take a bong rip like
it's college days. I really think, man, that perhaps have
we physically outgrown the nature in which these sports were
designed to be played, Because in the sixties, seventies, eighties,

(33:53):
like we watch old highlights and these guys were in shape,
but they were like I like that bods.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
They weren't as big.

Speaker 3 (34:02):
They all looked like Clayton Kershaw.

Speaker 1 (34:03):
They all looked like Clayton Kershaw's man boobs. They all,
you know, like Ozzie Smith was just like a skinny, slender,
athletic shortstop, you know. Joe Montana. Joe Montana had like
my muscle mass. Like these guys were just athletic dudes.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
They were men.

Speaker 2 (34:20):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They had like dad's strength.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
They had like you know, like your your grandpappy would
they have the ability to like lift stuff and you're like, yeah, Grandpa,
you never worked out, why are you so strong? I
feel like athletes had that type of physique guys got injured,
but not the way they do now. And is it
because when you add size, strength, speed, athleticism, the ability

(34:45):
to jump in ways that guys couldn't back in the day,
Like we talk about all these like, hey, what if
someone of this generation played this generation? I promise you
everyone that would whoop anyone else in another generation. I
don't care what anyone said, as they would whoop their
ass completely.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
Without a doubt.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
The most doodoo NBA team would beat the best NBA
team thirty forty years ago, just based on size, strength ability.
Baseball guys back in the day, we're throwing what low
nineties tops and they had what two pitches. Guys now
are throwing five different pitches and you could tell by
how the fatigue they can't do it for more than

(35:26):
five or six innings.

Speaker 2 (35:27):
So my question is are we just too big, strong
and fast and not flexible enough?

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Two?

Speaker 1 (35:37):
Well, we are flexible, but is our body not designed
for the speed, strength and size of how you get
hit today, how fast you throw today?

Speaker 3 (35:46):
But don't we always hear that when you add the
muscle mass, you lose some flexibility.

Speaker 2 (35:51):
That is true, but I just think about it, Danny
g like.

Speaker 5 (35:54):
Not necessarily, but yes, there.

Speaker 1 (35:57):
I feel like there's something to be said about what
I'm saying where there's so many injuries to elite athletes.
But is that maybe because when you throw one hundred
and two miles an hour, you break one hundred. Every
guy's got guys that can throw a hundred now and
they've been doing it since they're teenagers, and wide receivers
are running faster and jumping higher than they ever have,

(36:19):
and guys that are hitting them even though you can't
hit helmeuch to Hew manymore, they're just bigger.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Is there anything to this thought, Damn buyer. I think
that there is something to it.

Speaker 3 (36:30):
Now.

Speaker 4 (36:30):
I don't know is to jump off point the neighbor's injury,
because I think that is separate from say, pitchers in
baseball not being able to get a grip and throwing
out their elbow because of the amount of for how
hard they throw in what they're.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Trying to do with a baseball.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
Maybe there's maybe there's some similarities with that. I do
think at some point that the physical nature of all
of these athletes has gotten to a level where maybe
we had never seen before. But like Malik Neighbors tearing
out his knee, I just think is we just thought
that fake AstroTurf in this fake grass stuff was going
to be sufficient. And it's back where we started in

(37:12):
the mid to late eighties, when we started to take
that turn away from AstroTurf, when it started to get
so bad.

Speaker 8 (37:18):
Now.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Cavino, as you know, is a big boxing guy, and
he loves to point out that, you know, we've got
stronger and bigger, and physiques are more impressive. Your brain,
the human brain hasn't changed. Yes, you know, let's get
to this. So guys, you get hit now, it's different

(37:41):
than getting hit in different generations. I feel that everyone's
bigger and stronger, and it's unbelievable to think that people
don't talk about this more Like again, look at all
your baseball pictures. These guys are ripped, they're throwing one
hundred miles an hour. Mechanically they're probably you would argue, oh,
they're probably more mechanically sound than ever before. They know

(38:03):
every angle, there's no more old school like Satchel page
wind up. They realized, well, that's not the way you're
gonna get momentum there's pitching coaches for kids. My kid
is five, Sam, he plays pony ball. Not the next
step above Shetland is when they don't do the coach
pitch and the t ball pinto the kids are pitching

(38:24):
and the best ones have pitching coaches at seven or
eight years old. That's the kids' sports world. There specialization.
The kids sports world filters then into travel ball colleges
and the pros, and I just feel like there's something about.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
Almost like we've overtrained. We're too strong, we're too fast,
or too everything, and it leaves us so susceptible to
just getting injured all the time.

Speaker 7 (38:51):
I think you look at players like football from the
nineteen twenties or like its inception all the way to
the fifties, guys weren't weight training, and they were playing
a lot of times both ways, so they were like
out of weight. They weren't all bulked up specializing in
one position. I feel like football players who played in
that era, they a lot of them just lived like long,
normal lives. Like Johnny Lujack played way back in the day.

(39:12):
He died a couple of years ago at the age
of ninety eight, and he played football for a long time,
and I think guys today, a lot of football players,
maybe they played in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, they
might be dying in their fifties, sixties, seventies because they
just take.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
So much abuse over the course of their life.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
I'm just saying, like like a wide receiver, now correct
me if I'm wrong. I could be completely wrong. I
don't think though. I don't think that though when we
were kids. If you're kid of the eighties and nineties,
Andre Reid, Michael Irvin, Jerry Rice, Steve Largent, Mark Duper,
Mark Clayton, like you know Chris Carter. Yeah they got
banged up. But you name every team in the NFL,

(39:48):
and I could almost feel like you could tell me
how they've missed a year or half a year because
of some legitimate major injury.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
It is wild to me.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
It used to be the anomaly when a when a
running back would have some crazy knee injury. Now it's everyone,
and it's like, hey, we'll see you next year because
medicine is so great. But guys are being torn apart,
and I want to take your feedback.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I think guys are asked to do more from you know,
certain aspects if you're I don't know why I feel
that quarterbacks were only suffering maybe a knee injury here
or there, or.

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Like a like if Joe Montana got smushed, Yeah, got a.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
Shoulder Injuri thighs and you know his graphic and gruesome
that as that injury was, Like, those were the type
of injuries now with guys being more mobile and moving
around and doing those things. I don't know, I don't know.
I don't know if there's scientific data that has that information,
but I do think that you are doing more so

(40:49):
you are more susceptible to certain types of injuries. Yeah,
quarterbacks just run, are more mobile and run more than
they than they did. You know, thirty forty years ago.

Speaker 1 (40:59):
The routes, receivers are running the crossover dribbles and quick movements.
These NBA players are making the one hundred and two
mile an hour fastballs pitchers are throwing.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
There just seems to be so much more stress on.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
The body because there were demanding more that everyone just
can't And don't give me this bs that guys are
just tougher Back in the day, no guys ruppering his
achilles or you know, acl injury and just keep playing.
Don't tell me guys are so tough that they played
a season, you know, terribly injured.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Well it wasn't. Don't give me that bs. Yes, Danny,
Oh that was me. Oh what's up?

Speaker 4 (41:38):
Sam?

Speaker 7 (41:38):
I just think also, guys in the last forty years
are you know, eating more protein. They're just bigger, they're stronger,
and yeah, like you said, our skull and our brain
are the same, but they're getting hit and it's more
like a collision than it was in the past than
it does more damage to the body. Like offensive linemen
in the fifties were like in the two hundred, two
hundred and fifty pound range.

Speaker 4 (41:57):
Now they're over three hundred pounds. So in the in
the game of football, and I don't know if this
is like this in any other sport. I don't think
that there is, because I think football is so unique.
I think that football has just gotten more complex, got
more complicated throughout the years. Yes, it's not just hand
off to the running back, throw the ball to the

(42:17):
tight end or wide receivers.

Speaker 1 (42:19):
So there are schemes that cuts the athleticism everything, but
the athleticism is the word, right, because all this everything
I'm saying cross sports comes down through the athleticism that's
needed to play in today's professional sports world.

Speaker 4 (42:33):
Yes, and I think forty years ago and I just
used that as an example. I don't know how many
times we were talking about ambulance balls and I'm talking
about the throws that the quarterbacks make where their wide
receiver is going to get killed. And someone like Jack
Tatum in the nineteen seventies, Danny's Raiders made a living
off of that, right, crushing a wide receiver wide receiver

(42:56):
on a slant. Now that's kind of been eliminated. Teams
aren't doing that as much anymore. So someone may say, well,
they look at what Jack Tatum did to these guys
in the nineteen seventies. With all that being said, I
do think NFL teams now are so deep in trying
to find any edge that they can get that they
push those lines to maybe you end up putting guys

(43:18):
in tough spots because you're trying to get any advantage
that you can get.

Speaker 2 (43:22):
It's it's amazing when you always hear it.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
At the combine, they'll be like, man, this guy's three
hundred and something pounds and he runs a whatever forty
and you're like, wow, like you know, my dude, big
Trent Williams and the Niners just seems like, how can
he be that big and strong and that agile? And
I heard I'll givem props. I think it was Nick
right or brew who used to do it, Brussard who
used to do odd couple On FS one, they were

(43:48):
talking about how for the Ravens can the Ravens whether
this Lamar might be injured storm and it's like they
were talking about, how have you load up that line,
fall back and get all these all these guys who
were named are all six three six four, three hundred
pounds full back, you know the size of Derrick Henry,
and you're thinking, like, these guys are just they should

(44:09):
not be that fast and agile for their size. It
doesn't make sense to me. Let's go to Nick and Alabama.
You're on with Kevin on Rich what's that Bud Holy Machael.

Speaker 6 (44:19):
I appreciate you guys taking my call.

Speaker 4 (44:21):
What's up?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Man?

Speaker 6 (44:21):
I didn't think I really didn't think you'd take it.
I listened to you guys all the time.

Speaker 3 (44:25):
I love you. Thanks.

Speaker 6 (44:28):
Listen, guys, I think you're missing the bone.

Speaker 2 (44:30):
Oh, let's hear it.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
No.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
Look, I mean I played, I played sports, and I
quit college football because my coach, God bless him, Gary Barnett,
wanted me to take steroids. And that was back in
nineteen eighty two.

Speaker 8 (44:45):
But I was a cop for thirty six years, and.

Speaker 6 (44:47):
I've seen people destroy themselves because they take body enhancing drugs,
whether it be testosterone, Diana ball, testosterone, hgh whatever. Here's
the problem. There's the part that nobody wants to talk about.
When you grow the muscle so fast, the tendons don't grow.

(45:12):
You have to understand, like you can have the biggest
quad in the whole world, but the tendons that are
around it, the steroids don't make those grow.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Whether so whether it's illegal or illegal enhancements or supplements,
you're saying that our body's not designed for that. Like
like our buddy Mauser and hit us up in Cincinnati.
He goes, it's interesting because all these injuries happen. Yet
we could all agree that equipment in all sports has
gotten safer. Helmets, padding, baseball, basketball, compression. This that like

(45:45):
the equipment and everything that the pictures don't throw complete
games any longer. Yeah, pictures so eight they average five
six innings, so it's a very different game.

Speaker 7 (45:54):
Rules have been changed to make the games. A lot
of games safer, Like my friend's father was a for
IOW in the early nineteen seventies and they're terrible, and
you're allowed back then to like when the center was
snapping the ball, you could push the centers like face
down into the dirt, like you could just like pile
drive him and he and my friend's dad he's passed
away now. He had nerve damage in his shoulders and

(46:17):
neck and he developed Parkinson's later in life. You wonder
if maybe the rule changes help people, but they have
too much weight on their frame, and like our caller
mentioned the tendons issue.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, Bob in Texas, you're all with Kevin on reritch.
What's up, Bob.

Speaker 8 (46:30):
I think when you compare generations, it's like fine China
against stoneware. And the players today have been more specialized,
and they play less sports when they're younger, and everybody's
a pitcher for the rest of their life or their
receiver for the rest of their life, and they don't
get they're not as much all around athletes and well

(46:50):
rounded and maybe not choosing the right sport. But if
you look at some of the players today, they could
not play in the seventies because they couldn't throw a
complete gay.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
Yeah, but they're bigger and stronger, they just don't have
I don't know that they're just it just it makes
no sense because if the guys are bigger, faster, stronger,
and more agile, how are they also more fragile.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
That just doesn't make sense.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
There's also there's muscles, and then there's joints, and it
seems like a lot of these issues are happening around
the joint. And you know there's the hamstring strange obviously,
but like at the so the joints aren't being strengthened.
It And I'm reading a couple of things and checking
out AI and seeing all the all these different sort
of effects that are having on it, and a lot

(47:39):
of it is players are training for explosiveness, not for
joint stability. Different to protect quarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Like we said, that's a great answer, that's already a
great answer.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:51):
The the fphesis on are you are you an explosive
off the off the snap? But the explosiveness versus like
you said, stabilia.

Speaker 5 (47:59):
Joints to Yeah, like you know, locking in a knee
versus just like getting a good explosive jump, protecting certain
players in the way that the routes are designed to
protect those players are creating more awkward collisions. So that's
creating more awkward injuries. Was what was the jumping off point?

Speaker 1 (48:17):
Tyreek Hill and Neighbors, you could say, well, all the guys.
It seems like every year or so, multiple elite guys. Dan,
I'm just saying every year, multiple elite guys are out,
and I just feel like when we were kids, and
I'm not doing the oh back in the day because
I don't think those guys are certainly not stronger or
better and not tougher. It just there's something to be
said about like these guys are so big and so
strong and so fast, yet they're also fragile.

Speaker 4 (48:39):
Yeah, yeah, and that's why, like I think, like Tyreek's
situation last night is different than Malik Neighbors. Tyreek's injury
came on grass, Like are talking about like a like
a playing surface sort of thing. I think Melik neighbors
injury is directly related to the playing surface that he
played on, which is different to what we are You
know to what we are talking about.

Speaker 5 (48:59):
And you know what is a huge part of strength,
conditioning and muscle building and all that is recovery time.
And if you're constantly playing, if you're constantly training, if
you're constantly you know, conditioning, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Drew Rosenhouse told me, Tyrek's gonna be ready for a
week exactly.

Speaker 5 (49:16):
Like if you're not giving yourself, like you know, I
roll my ankle, I'm out out of the gym for
two weeks. It's like you got to give yourself that
proper time, and they are not allowed that proper time
to let things set in and strengthen properly before going
out and activating again.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Well, I appreciate you guys letting me. It's a great top.
I'm glad. I appreciate you guys.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Let me before you know, I was gonna say, I'm
glad you guys let me air out this thought because
I do feel like we don't talk about it enough
and I hate the old and I'm glad we didn't
go back in the day people were tougher, because that's
not where I was going.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
I was just going that everyone's bigger, stronger, and better.

Speaker 8 (49:52):
Now.

Speaker 2 (49:53):
Why why we so hurt.

Speaker 1 (49:55):
I don't remember when you were a kid in the
eighties or nineties, an NFL season or an MLB season
didn't go by where multiple ace pitchers or quarterbacks or
wide receivers were all out with like big acl achilles,
Tommy John.

Speaker 2 (50:09):
It just wasn't a thing.

Speaker 4 (50:10):
I'll tell I'll tell you this. Just saw John Carlo
Stanton ground it into an inning ending double play.

Speaker 1 (50:15):
Oh, they could have threw that ball to the center
fielder and then first base, he still would have been out.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
That guy slow as hell.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Look, but also they threw that ball at first base.
He was halfway down the line.

Speaker 4 (50:22):
But also if you were to talk about who is
the maybe best fit, who's the best in shape baseball player?

Speaker 2 (50:28):
And John Carlo, yeah, who's always.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Hurt John Carlo, He's the best example of a guy
that with his shirt off. Do you tell your wife, Hey,
I am here, sweetheart, listen, I hey, honey, money. They'll
at him not to give Ben Sheets, you know, not
to have him catch astray. But I covered the Brewers
twenty some years ago, and Ben Sheets in the locker

(50:51):
room was great, magnificent, And Ben Sheets with his shirt
off wasn't John Carlo Stanton, like not even Chloe, Yeah,
not even close to it, dude, Kershaw mahomes. So look
at all these guys that seems like.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
Yeah, yeah right, Kershaw is catching strays, you know, for
for for what he is, you know, what he looks like.
So there's yeah, it's it's an interesting in there are
guys that play the same sports in that way. I
feel like everybody in the NFL kind of looks the same,
you know, like in like in some way or another,
I mean taking out the lineman.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
But but situations look get a you know, look at
another hunk who is married to Olivia Culpo has a baby.
Now my guy, Christian McCaffrey, I mean, is there anyone
more ripped and conditioned than him. Yeah, He's always always
fighting the injury bug because he's just such a competitor
and the quickness and as the spot said, the emphasis

(51:47):
on explosiveness that is such a big part of it.
Wrap it up, Dan in Idaho. Then we're gonna play
a game, giveaway some prizes here.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
What's up Dan?

Speaker 8 (51:55):
Hey? You know one of the things I've always said,
especially with the Achilles, the knee injuries, the acl just
what did we do twenty thirty forty years ago as kids,
What did we do every.

Speaker 6 (52:06):
Day all day, especially in the summers. We rode bikes,
and no kids ride bikes anymore. And I think that's a.

Speaker 8 (52:14):
Big part of why there's so many lower.

Speaker 6 (52:17):
Extremity in bro.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Dan, I love your thought that that's so interesting. It's
almost so ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
No, but it's almost so ridiculous, actually, Vix, but it's
so ridiculous that it almost goes along with my thought,
like we're trying to come out with an answer, and Dan,
I'll be honest, that's one hell of a contributing answer,
like why it makes no sense? Did you know Tyreek
Hill not ride enough? Did he not play, you know,
ride bikes on the neighborhood that? Did he not have
a mongoose or a.

Speaker 3 (52:42):
GT Some college dude needs to do a study on that.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
We played this game once before when my mother was
visiting Los Angeles, right.

Speaker 3 (52:54):
Danny Joyesh. She was live in studio at the time.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
And I just find this fun because I think we
always want to know, like do you think you're would
know that?

Speaker 2 (53:00):
You think your dad would know that? So do we
have my mom on the phone?

Speaker 3 (53:04):
We do Sam, go ahead, fire up that music. Well,
let's go now, yeah, here we go, and we will
get Richie's mom on the line. Hello, Rich's mom Mom?
Hi guy, Oh hey mom, how are you? That's my mom,
Marianne say hi everyone?

Speaker 2 (53:21):
All right? All right, hey mom, Hey guys.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
All right, so my mom, my mom lives in the
Baltimore area. And let me tell you she sees a
lot of very sad Ravens fans. Did you say at work?
A lot of sad Ravens fans?

Speaker 8 (53:35):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I bet right.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
Now, here's how the game is played.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
I'm going to ask you a question. Don't answer right away.
We have a contestant that's gonna guess whether or not
you know the answer. So wait, let the guy make
the guests, and then i'll ask you again.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
All right, sounds good?

Speaker 3 (53:54):
All right, will and'll.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Well, Rich's mom know who's our contestant.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Our contestant is Matt in Placerville.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Cal Matt, how are you, buddy?

Speaker 3 (54:02):
I'm doing good?

Speaker 8 (54:03):
Hey?

Speaker 6 (54:03):
Can you guys tell me? All right?

Speaker 2 (54:04):
We can hear you by. All right, so you know
how this game is played?

Speaker 3 (54:06):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (54:07):
Yeah, okay, I'm gonna ask a question. You answer if
my mom will know? Will Rich's mom know yes or no?
And Matt, you got to get two of these right
out of the five too. Here we go, all right,
Question number one again, Mom, don't answer right away? Okay,
what is the name of the Raiders running back from
Boise State that broke out in Week four with one

(54:29):
hundred and fifty five total yards and three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (54:32):
For the Raiders? Matt, will my mom know? Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (54:39):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Emphy genty yes, wow, wow.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Wow, Well you know, keep in mind my mom, I
name my brother James after her crush on Jim Punkin.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Really impressed Mom. How about that sixty four yard touchdown
run where it was high stepping?

Speaker 2 (55:01):
Great? Do you love him?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
He love?

Speaker 1 (55:03):
My mom? Wanted to get a gent t shirt when
we were in Vegas. All right, Question number two a mom?
Who will be performing at the halftime show with this
year's Super Bowl in February?

Speaker 2 (55:16):
Matt, will my mom know? Yes or no?

Speaker 8 (55:19):
No?

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Mom?

Speaker 2 (55:23):
Bunny for two?

Speaker 3 (55:28):
Matt is one for one, one for two.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
I don't think you can name one song, but you
knew was bed Bunny, So I'm proud of you.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yes, I love him?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
The pop culture all right?

Speaker 1 (55:36):
Here, we go, Mom, what baseball player is known as
the big dumper because he has a big ass and
he hit sixty home runs for the Seattle Maritors.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
Matt, will my mom know?

Speaker 3 (55:51):
Yes or no?

Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yees? Mom don't know?

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Oh okay, Bobby, Mommy answer is cal Rally, she loves
a big dumper.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
We know that, Cal look up, but you might like it.
I don't know we're getting look up, but look up.
Don't look up as but but you know what I mean.
We're getting the crunch time here. Matt has two more opportunities.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
All right, here we go, Mom, as you know, your
son me very very upset about the New York Mets.
The Mets missed the final wild card on a tie
breaker to what team? Well, my mom, no Matt?

Speaker 2 (56:36):
Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (56:40):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Mom?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
No, the Mets lost to the Marlins. But the Reds
are in the playoffs. All right, so it comes down
to the final one. All right, Mom, I want to
put I want you to put your thinking cap on. Yes,
dam byer.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
There are no more magical two words in sports than
question five. Right here, you always hear Game seven, Game seven,
Question five. This is where it all rides.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
This is for all the marbles, Mom for this guy
Matt in California. Here's your final question. What three teams
has Lebron James played for? What three teams has Lebron
James played for? Matt Will Marianne?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
My Mom?

Speaker 2 (57:29):
No, yes or no?

Speaker 1 (57:33):
No?

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Mom Lake, Yes, I don't know any other ones? Man,
you win's a winner?

Speaker 8 (57:47):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (57:48):
Wow, Mom? Where is Lebron James frum? Do you know
where he's from? No, he's from Ohio. He played for
the Cleveland Cavaliers. No, and he went down and he
went down to Miami.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
To play for the Heat. Remember he promised all those championships,
not one, not two?

Speaker 3 (58:04):
No, no, all right, thank you riches, Mom and Matt
in Plasterville, California. Congratulations you won a new CNR. Congratulations.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
Hey, by the way, Mom, I know you want to
go get a T shirt. Yeah, you got a T
shirt for losing a comin on Rich Fox Sports Radio
t shirt. But no, my mom wants to do. Mom
what an ultimate weekend? She wants to go back to
Vegas and she wants to go see the Wizard. She
wants to see the Wizard of Ositt the Sphere, and
she wants to see the Raiders play at home, so
I said, wait for you some to get his next contract.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
All right, mom, thank you, love you, thanks for playing.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Yes, the Bengals whole season got flipped upside down because
Joe Burrow. It looks like most of the season he's
out and it's all turf tow.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
This is not good. And we describe turf toe.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Take your thumb and pull it back until it hurts,
and that hyper extension and snap of that tendon would
be the equivalent to what turf toe on your.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
Big toe is.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
And I said, put a Cincinnati Bengals fan licked Joe
Burrow's toe once a day for the whole season if
it meant Burrow's back. A better question was posed, that's
not as weird. Would you would you endure that injury
if it meant Joe Burrow didn't like if I said, hey,
you're a Bengals fan. You have turf toe for the
next three months, but Joe Burrow's fine. Do you think

(59:29):
fans would take on the pain for the player they
root for. Do Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays mean that much
to you, like Danny g If I told you, you know,
the Raiders weren't a better spot. But uh, you know,
genty out it pull the groin muscle. If I said, Danny,
he's fine, but that means you pulled the grind muscle.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
Now this is going to have to be for a
playoff winner, a championship.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
Yeah yeah, Now you're not your set. What is your team?
One in three? Two and two?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
What they Yeah?

Speaker 1 (59:55):
One and three like that for you, it doesn't apply.
But there are times where you're in your in playoff.

Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
Mode like I.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
You know, if you said in order to win a
playoff game, then you'd see me coming in to work
on crutches.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
I know that. I still think the Phillies are one
of the favorites to really take the World Series. I
think they're a really well balanced squad. Yet, know, Zach Wheeler,
what if I told some of these bonehead, diehard Phillies fans, who,
by the way, they really are the most passionate you
gotta respect Philadelphia sports fans. Do you think someone that

(01:00:27):
would take on the injuries of players missing if it
meant that guy's healthy? And I think the answer is yes.
People paint their face, people spend thousands of dollars, People
buy jerseys, people get tattoos.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
You tell me they want to endure an injury.

Speaker 4 (01:00:41):
Dan Bayer someone ate horsepoop after a celebration, of course,
so they had already won to do it. Yeah, Like,
if that allowed you to win, tells you everything that
you need to know. I guarantee you go up to
the Bay Area. I'm not saying I would do this.
I got other things going on. I got to be
Coach of the Year for and I like to stay active.

(01:01:01):
But I guarantee there's Niner fans that if you said, hey,
would you take on Bosa's acl I bet you they would.
I bet you this in die hard Bang Bang Niners
gang people that would say, yeah, dude, I'll take on
the injury in some hypothetical world.

Speaker 2 (01:01:17):
Transfer it from him to me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
But well, because think of it, we're so die hard Sam.
It's not like people break their TVs. People cry, people
are emotional, you see how I mean? Sports bring out
so much passion in people. And I really think that, like,
if you told me what would I do for the
Mets to have made the playoffs this year, and instead
of just sitting around today and then playing, I probably

(01:01:41):
would have taken on a little something.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Maybe who knows, just saying this conversation could become very morbid.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
It can become I mean, no one's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Saying they're going to take on any deadly things, but
I mean like like, if you know, if I told
you I was going to win some big thing, but Sam,
you have to break your big toe.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
I think you'd break your big toe. Well, Danny brought
up to this scene. Go ahead, Danny of my casino.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:02:06):
The guys like where they say like, you can walk
out of here with the money, but we're gonna break
your knees or we'll break your hand and you get
nothing with something like that. Yeah, And the guys like, yeah,
I'll take.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
The broken hand.

Speaker 8 (01:02:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
They smash his fingers with the hammer.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
If I told Sam, if I told you, iowa like
shock the world like next year and there's the undefeated
football playoff and won the whole thing. But we got
to smash your hand with a hammer.

Speaker 3 (01:02:27):
Oh my gosh. See, but that heals. It needs to
be something that lasts forever, like herpes.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Were handed out herpes you're giving Sam.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
I just want a broken hand.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
This is I'm not going to consider that other option.
This is a simple hand injury. Thank god, Cadino's back tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
For the record, Sam would get herpes if I would
would score thirty or more in a game.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
I go out and make bad decisions, right Yeah, all right,
Hey guys, I want to thank all of you for
holding down the fort. Dann Bayer, thank you for being
a fantastic co host, and Danny g just being the
best produce and the biz.

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
And I was saying, you bring the joy and Spot
you're pretty cool too, Ice stream Videos, best video guy
in the biz.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
And our buddy Covino will be back tomorrow and he'll
probably have a smile on his face because what are
the Yankees up one?

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Nothing?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
And your Mets aren't in it. You're gonna chair for
my Dodgers tonight because we got Blake Snell versus Hunter Green.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
I am, and I'll tell you why. Because f the
Reds and something I want to talk about tomorrow. I
think I have to accept the fact that my son
wants to be a Dodgers fan. Yeah, so I don't
know how to feel about this. We'll discuss all this.
Thanks for hanging with Covino on Rich until tomorrow. A
ribadret you baby, See you in the Promised Land.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Goodbye,