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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
We do it every week on our show. Let's bring
it to DP. It's our big TV game of the week.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
You should see my fat up.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
I got an extra TV year the game game that
I will have.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Riches big TV game of the week.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
It's Rich's big TV game of the week.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
And now what started as you idiots making fun of
me became a bit sponsored by TCL. Thank you TCL,
thank you. TC got our big TV that maybe they did.
You know. I joked at you guys that you know
you got the big TV in the living room, whether
it's the seventy five or eighty five inch TV, that's
the one that's the big TV. But if you're a
true football fan, you might be an idiot like me,
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and I roll out other TV so I could have
split screens and Sunday ticket.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Riches like that nerdy av kid in high school that
rolled the TV out.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
You know what?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Very similar I do that meybe, pick me, pick me.
I wanted can I get the TV?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Miss Johnson?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So to me, no better set up than having multiple TVs.
I feel like you don't want it permanently set up
because you want your house to a classy. That's why
I roll out the other TVs and then just roll
them back into other rooms in the house. So I
want my living room to look like at sports bar
for eight hours a week Sunday football. But what we
do every week we decide what game gets the big
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TV and one gets the little TVs on the split screen,
and you know, you manipulate your Sunday ticket and Cavino,
I feel like I turned you on to Sunday take
it because you're a red zone guy. Yeah, and I
think last week we watched football together and you're like, yo,
you might got to You might have the right idea.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
When you see it. Yeah, when you experience it's a
totally different experience.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Absolutely. Yeah, it was nice.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Now the pickens are slim because we have a lot
of great football over the next couple days. So today,
I mean, every game gets the big TV because you know,
we have three games, but they're all great games. We
talked about Lions Packers being the biggest of all of them,
so telling and then the Chiefs and the Cowboys. You're
talking about America's the team, the battle of Who's America's team,
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which of.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
The games today are you most excited about?
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Oh, you know what, on the we get out of
here for DP in an hour and a half. On
the way home, I'm gonna be anticipating getting home and
immediately turning on that Packers Lions game. I'm telling you
the implications of whoever loses, I think might be out
of the playoff mix unless they get hot, because whoever
loses that game is like sort of on the outside
looking in a major way. Tomorrow. I love the game
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of the game of first place teams. The Bears.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
Are they that?
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Are they that real?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
They?
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Vegas would let you think that, No, because there's seven
point underdogs to the Eagles in Philadelphia. But when you
get to Sunday Comino, that's when you have to make
some choices.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Right now, jag with your heart or head here?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh I'm thinking totally with both, because I mean, you know,
you can't ignore your heart. But the other game stinks.
So I'll tell you what Jacks Titans. We'll talk about
the early games. Jacks Titans, No one cares, Saints, Dolphins nap,
no one cares Falcons, Jets, stinker Rams, Panthers, Panthers trying
to stay alive in the rams. You know, ten point favorites.
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That's an interesting one. But now Carver Rich bigger stinker.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
The aftermath of your Thanksgiving dinner or Falcons Jets, Oh.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Falcons Jets, bigger stinker. Yeah, but you know what, there's
two games on Sunday in the early in the early
set that deserve the TV. I know the one you're
thinking of. You're gonna say, Texans at six and five
are playing in Indianapolis. There are two games behind the Colts,
who are eight and three. Indy's favored by four and
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a half. And not only are the Texans six and five,
that division is logjams because you got the Colts at
eight and three, Jacksonville at seven and four, and Houston
at six and five. So let me let me do
a little manipulate a little schedule watching for you good.
If the Houston Texans beat the Colts, they're seven and five,
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the Colts are eight and four, and the Jags if
they win, they're eight and four. So you're looking at
you're looking at a po like the world should be
rooting for the Texans to beat the Colts, just to
make that division the tecton, just to make that division
even more ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
So I think it's gonna be exciting to see if
their defense can step up against the Colts in this situation,
just to see how good they were the last game.
You know, I think that's a really exciting, intelling game.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
So I'm gonna I'm gonna pull a lame move and
say that I'm gonna that might be the game that
gets the big TV later and maybe in the second half,
but for the first half. Call me a homer. Forty
nine Ers and brock Purdy, who has not been good
in conditions, go into Shadoor Sanders home in Cleveland, Niners
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at Brown's, and you might think, Eh, this game.
Speaker 3 (04:57):
You really care.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
I'm a Niners fan, so I'm a little biased. But
should or Sanders gets to start. They're saying it could
be a snow game, So Niners versus Browns in the snow,
should or Sanders versus shaky brock Purty why at his
back all week saying that he had a rough game.
The picks were, they were there, but I don't think
there was ill advised as people thought. So of course
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I like the Niners Browns. I think that's a really
fun analogy in the snow analogy.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
We're gonna talk movies later on. Let me give you
a movie analogy here. Texans Colts is the original Rocky
it's the best game. Forty nine Ers Browns is Rocky four.
It's not the best, but it might be the most exciting, yeah,
or I.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Mean exciting in the fact that it might be just
like a sloppy defensive battle in the snow.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
And you know, but the forty nine Ers should or
Sanders like, there's so much excitement there. There's so many
sex namesolved.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
So I think there could be a lot of a
lot of fun in that game. So those are your
two games to choose from. I'm going Niners Browns. But
that's a really you know, I'm surprised I missed that
earlier when I was looking at my favorite games of
the week Texans Colts, because we forget that, Danny g
that Texans defense that you've been talking about that could
play effective down the stretch because that division plays each
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other a bit and the Texans Colts. And we just
talked about Trevor Lawrence fifteen minutes ago about how, you know,
is it time for him to step it up? Because
if they win this week and the Colts lose. Now
you're logjammed in that division. You got two eight and
four teams and the Texans right behind them. So that
division is far from written. Remember a couple weeks ago
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we thought it was all cults. The cults have stumbled
a little bit now and the other teams have shown
some life. So that's a hell of a great division
right now to be interested in. Now later games again,
there's only three to choose from because we have so
many great games today and tomorrow on Black Friday. Vikings, Seahawks, Raiders, Chargers, No,
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so you gotta go Bills at Steelers. Bills are seven
and four, Steelers are six and five. To me, they
one of these teams. It's almost the story of like
stop the bleeding right, Like could the Bills show some
life and be like, hi, a right, we're back, We're
eight and four, we won or do the Steelers continue
to give the Bills some woes? And then the Steelers
would be tied with the Ravens. Who do you like
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their cove Bills? Are Steelers?
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I like the Bills and his Gills are.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Only favored by They're favored by only three and a half.
It's in Pittsburgh, but that that could be a really
fun late afternoon game on Sunday.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
The only thing is at Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
But yeah, Bill's got to turn it around and really
like make a statement here and get on the right track.
So Bill Steelers, I agree with you, Rich, And I
know Danny G's gonna be watching his Raiders and all,
but yeah, Bill Steelers, Big TV game of the.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Week, Danny, I know your theory is that you never
root against your team. I get it, Like some people,
like you know, they want their team to tank.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
For the draft picks.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
They're playing the Chargers in LA, Like, is there any
instinct even try to get to the game, Like even
if you got free tickets, would you'd be like I'm
not even feeling it right now? Or like when your
team stinks, do you even want to go see him live?
Speaker 5 (08:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I mean I still want to go see live NFL
football if I have the chance. And this game really
is going to be whose O line is the most
injured and stinks the most as far as depth goes,
because as I've been telling you guys, they both teams
have third stringers playing on the line, and so you've
seen the struggles Herbert's had and Gino Smith definitely does
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not handle pocket pressure well. So he's had an atrocious
season because of that and other reasons.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
I know, you like to see, you know, when your
team is sort of stinking, you like to look for
glimmers like brock Bowers is doing good. Oh, Ashton Genty's
finally gonna have a good game, Like you look for
little things. Do you want like rank spoiler to the charges?
Is that appealing to you or do you like eeah, yeah,
right now?
Speaker 6 (08:47):
I do not like this coaching staff, so I cannot
I'm not gonna sit here on line and be like, oh,
I see lots of hopefulness here. There's little things that
I'm hopeful about.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I'm not. I would rather Mark Davis sell the team.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
I heard that Tom Brady there's some dissension because Tom
Brady was very high on Chick Kelly and some of
the decisions the Raiders made that are not working out
were like tom Brady driven, and there's a little a
little dissension with him.
Speaker 6 (09:16):
I'm with tom Brady on this. I don't think Schip
Kelly was the problem necessarily. I think that him and
Pete Carroll. Not being on the same page is a problem.
But Pete Carroll brought his son in to be the
O line coach, and from the very beginning they were
stubborn with JPJ powers Johnson, who's an elite center, but
they played him out of position. They put Meredith and
these other like third string guys on the O line,
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and oh surprise, the other teams are sacking your quarterback
eight to ten times a game. They've made some horrible
personnel decisions. And when a coaching staff is doing that
and they don't have good schemes, that's when you need
to clean house and get a new coaching staff.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Well, speaking of your game, Danny J. Raiders, Chargers that
logjam I speak of in the AFC South with the
Texans and that defense, the Jags and Trevor Lawrence finally
trying to you know, put together a winning season to
make a run. Those teams would be quite pleased if
the Raiders won, because the Chargers are that seven and
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four team that right now, if the season were to
end now, they got that, they got that wildcard spot
locked up. But the Chargers at seven and four, after
they play your Raiders, they play the Eagles, the Chiefs,
the Cowboys, and mark this game down a couple of
days after Christmas. It might be one of those flex
games you know to have Saturday and Sunday games.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
The last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Texans at Chargers that could determine who gets a wildcard
spot Texans and Chargers. Then the Chargers got to end
the season in Denver, and Denver could be fighting for
a one seed. So unless you know old Khakis himself
less Harbaugh, and you know that team gets it together.
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Unless unless all of a sudden Madison Beer starts given
some sweet kisses, then I don't know. I don't know
if that team has it together. I don't know, I
don't know if the Chargers make it dude interesting AFC picture.
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Speaker 2 (11:55):
We're gonna talk a bunch of NFL. We'll talk some fights. Kavino,
what else is on your big commit So what's on
your mind?
Speaker 4 (12:01):
Well, speaking of your big kebas your big TV game
of the week, we got to talk lots of foods, balls,
like I said, Jim Well, Pacio said something interesting about
his dad, Manny Poachio. If we have time, we'll get
to that. The thing is, it's an action packed show,
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Speaker 2 (12:41):
Whether you're like it or not, You're in the middle
of a Cavino on Rich sandwich.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
Exactly, And who cares about the Thanksgiving Day parade?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Watch us now?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Like Rich said on YouTube, do you really care about
the return of Felix the Cat? Probably there, you know,
my kid out there knows Felix the Cat.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Dude.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
My daughter wants to probably see the La Loo float
or the Stranger Things float or what's the new one?
The K pop demon Hunters.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
Well, Rich's head is equally as big. Tell them to
watch pull that up on the TV and enjoy. So again.
You also live chat on our YouTube page Coveno and
Rich FSR.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Covino and Rich FSR.
Speaker 4 (13:17):
But the biggest story today besides Turkey ass and friends
and family and being in your hometown and what am
I gonna wear to see the fam is football.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
I mean a story.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
I mean football, particularly in my opinion, pay attention, listen up.
Hate to say this. Detroit Lions lose today.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
It's over I first, and first mostly I want to
say what action pack games we have for this day?
And I'm great at just sitting there and watching people.
I say, what's your role? What are you bringing. I'm
bringing myself. I already brought myself from La back to
Jersey to see the family.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
And I sit there and lamp.
Speaker 4 (13:56):
I'm lining the rest of the day watching TV, watching
the games and man Packers, Lions, Chiefs, Cowboys, Bengals, Ravens.
Speaker 2 (14:05):
Doesn't get much better than that. I know you think
that you're just staying out of the way, but you're
so unhelpful. Huh, I do nothing.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Yeah, that's really my role.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
It's like, my biggest role is how could I eat
and not hate myself later on?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Because yesterday I cracked.
Speaker 4 (14:23):
I coasted through the day yesterday, knowing that Thanksgiving was today,
I'm like, you know what, let me sort of eat
but not too much today, and then by the end
of the day I cracked and I ate everything in sight.
It's almost impossible to eat healthy at mom's house or
wherever you're going. So you know, my job today is
to is to eat, not hate myself, and just not
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get up and watch some football.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
That's really it. And we got some great games, dude.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
It's gonna be really great to just be chilling, enjoying
a drink, enjoying the holiday, being thankful, and being thankful
for these matchups.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Well, let's dive in. That's no more day Lions packers.
Y know this this game means so much more than
we think. And you know it's the backdrop of a
holiday where you are sitting around with your stinky uncle
who is probably gonna, you know, argue about politics at
dinner later in the day, You're sitting there with your
cousins and siblings, and you know it's a day of
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friends and family. But let's not forget this game is
so significant. And I'll say it again if you didn't
hear me, Lions lose today, I think they're out. In fact,
I think they're out because I've been crunching the schedule.
I love schedule watching. If you don't know Kavino and Rich,
I just really overanalyze the schedule. I'm the guy that
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looks ahead schedule watching. Yeah, I look way too far
ahead on the schedule every week. In fact, I'm guilty
of it in every sport. Like some people sit back
and just live in the moment.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
I feel like you've evolved it though you're no longer
the schedule watcher, which I used to criticize you for.
But I do feel the importance. You've you've really convinced
me to be more of a schedule watch and now
you're the schedule cruncher.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
You're like the captain Crunch of Crunch on this.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I think it's BS when athletes say, well, not so
much BS, but I don't buy it when they're like,
you know, you know, we play today, we win today,
that's you know, uh, you know, I'm We're only worried
about one game at a time. I get that sentiment,
but it's human nature to be like, all right, well
then what like you just said it before your your
daughter had her sweet sixteen this past weekend, and by
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the way, happy birthday to her. Youah, the dad of
a pain in the as teenage daughter.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, Steve Cavino, True, yes and very very expensive. Yes,
you yourself were like.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Once I get past the sweet sixteen, and then I
gotta worry about the holidays. Like we're always working, yes,
always looking ahead as people, So I'm scheduled watching it.
I want to look at the Lions schedule and you
tell me, you look at in the eyes and the
als tell me this isn't a pain in the ass schedule.
If you're a Lions fan, because then I want to
break down the NFC North and and look at how
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difficult all three of these teams schedules are moving forward
because we talked about it on our show. So if
you listen to us on the daily in the afternoon,
we talked about how the Lions, Packers, and Bears. Oh my,
one of those teams is out. I'm convinced that the
Seahawks and the Niners are both making the playoffs. The
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Seahawks have a cake schedule, and I think they're pretty good.
I'm a Niners fan, and I'm not being a Homer
when I say this. The Niners next two games the
Browns and the Titans. If the forty nine Ers beat
the Browns and the Titans, they're ten and four, and
I'd argue they don't have to win one more game
out of their final three. Go eleven and six. You're
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in the Lions, Packers, and Bears. Listen to these schedules.
If the Lions lose today to Green Bay, first of all,
Matt Lafleur is gonna be sweating a little less because
that guy could possibly be on the hot seat in
Green Bay. Lions seven and four. They lose today, they're
seven five, which is pedestrian, as they say. Then they
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got to play the Cowboys, and I said to Danny
g before the show, Danny, we're like not sleeping on
the Cowboys, but they're like so just coasting through this
season that the tie they had with the Packers is
so indicative of how I feel about them, and they're
so like man. But if they win today, if they
upset the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day in Dallas, not impossible
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at all.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
They've been playing chang their narrative a little bit.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Yeah, they'd be six five in one, so why we
make it It seem like they're completely out of it if
they went on a run, right, so they the Lions
would have to play the Cowboys next week, then they
play the Rams in LA, who you could argue is
the best team in the NFL. Then they play the
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Vikings and the Bears. And to me, I just think
that the Packers. If the Packers beat the Lions today,
you can see Dan Campbell and Jared Goff just feeling
really like, Wow, what a step backwards for a team that.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Would you say?
Speaker 2 (19:09):
For the last couple of years, is everyone's like other
than their own team was like, man, it's sort of
nice to see the Lions good again. That's might be over.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
It's the most detrimental for the Lions, no question, no dignity,
no doubt. The NFC North is stacked, and we're going
to see this all pan out and play out throughout
the day. I think we need to start by saying,
where were we with the Green Bay Packers early in
the season, right with Michael Parsons and everything.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Very high on them. Let's keep that in mind and
think about.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
Where we are today the Lions, however, here's how I
see it.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Rich.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Oh, and they have to play the Steelers. That was
the one game I forgot. But that's again, that's that's
like one of those I don't know Steelers.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
We were very high on the Packers leading into this season,
but we've been high on the Lions for like the
past three years. And how much time do you really
get in the NFL to really make that impact and
really break through?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
You know, you're the guy.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
I gotta quote Captain crunch Rich Davis, mm, the Crunchberries,
the Saggies.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
You also say that, hmm, there's only little windows in
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And when you think about the Lions and Dan Campbell
and Jared Goff, this is their chance to do it.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
If not now what another year?
Speaker 4 (20:22):
You can give them another year to be dominant in
the NFL, another year to be dominant in this ever
changing NFC North where you got the Bears who are
looking legit, it's now or never like that old ESPN
show we used to host, It's Now or Ever for
the one Ever. Honestly, that's how I'm seeing it. And
Jared Goff, he's thirty one, but he feels like he's
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forty one.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
He feels like he's thirty.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
No, why he feels older because he was straight up
traded for Matthew Stafford and we're like, what Stafford thirty seven?
So when is Gough thirty seven? No, that was, but
it feels like it. It feels like it. It also
feels like he's had his chance with the Lions. The
Lions have come so close, They've played so tough, right,
they've proven to be like we've criticized Dan Campbell and
his raw, raw attitude at first, and he proved to
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be that guy, and they proved to be that team
to take chances and they played tough and gritty, but
they're not playing that same way this year seven and four.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
This is the weekend they have to turn it around.
So when Rich and.
Speaker 4 (21:17):
I agree, it's a fact that Lions have to beat
the Packers today at home, and if they don't, I'd
have to say that little window that we're talking about,
that little window of opportunity is definitely closing if it's not.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Now, Danny, we talk about these little windows, and we
want to assume that everyone's everyone peaks with a Super
Bowl appearance or win. Some teams peak and it's almost
there and that's the peak.
Speaker 6 (21:43):
Sometimes windows get jammed up, though, because Detroit lost their
offensive coordinator Ben Johnson.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now Ben Johnson, you could see that something's just not
clicking right.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
You hear that on radio and TV shows, But you
also don't hear anyone mention anymore. That they also lost
their defensive coordinator, Aaron Glenn, and so that hurts as well.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Samuel Porta, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:02):
Their center Frank Ragnow who is coming back now retired,
not coming back for them, and guard they're one of
their best guards signed with the Titans. So there is
some context to this. It's not like all of a
sudden they woke up and they stink.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, that's what happens, as you know, when a team,
when a team is good, and this happens in all sports,
but especially the NFL, a team gets good, all of
a sudden, everyone wants to and deserves to get paid,
and you can't really keep that team fully intact anymore.
If you're really good, you know what happens. Your offensive
and defensive coordinator start to get opportunities to head coach
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other places. Your role players get the most money role
players could get, and your star players on the top
of the tier for wide receiver, quarterback, tight end. So
it's very hard to keep a dynasty together. And the
Lions right now are at a very big cross roads
today Thanksgiving where they've lost seven of their last eight
Thanksgiving Day games. Now, I know they weren't really good
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for most of those years.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
But dude, this is such a big crossroads. I saw
bone thugs in Harmony.
Speaker 5 (23:04):
Just by the way.
Speaker 6 (23:07):
I know it's not sexy football talk to talk about
the line in the center, but we heard Isaac Lohenkron
on our afternoon show yesterday talk about how Rag Noow
is going to come out of retirement. The Lions could
see him return against the Rams.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Oh wow. So yeah, and he's a big deal. He
was a four time Pro Bowl makes a big difference.
And you know we've seen it with certain players in
the NFL. You see with Joe Alt to the Chargers,
you lose or big Treent Williams of the Niners. If
one of your big linemen are down, like a star player,
that changes the whole complexity of like ever just.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Ask the Chargers as the Raiders.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah so, but again, we can't be surprised if it
doesn't go the Lions. Wait today, when you think about
again how quick the narratives change and how high we
were on the Packers leading into this season, right so
we're starting to see those things paying out.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
But I think we've made it clear.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
Fox Sports Radio Nation, Dan Patrick Nation, this is the
biggest for the Lions right now.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
It's their time. They have to make it happen.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
They have to win today if they want to see
the playoffs, if they want to make that impact. And
we want to know what you think about the NFC
North Bears, Packers, Lions, Vikings. What do you think in
eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox we're telling you
what we're thinking here.
Speaker 2 (24:18):
Said Vikings, And the funny part is like such a
non factor, but not really. You know why they because
the Vikings could very well be the team that f's
up someone's little mission or a goal. Like division games
are never easy because these teams know each other, there's history,
this rivalry is like, so what if the Vikings are
the team that or what.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
If rich the Bears really are that good Of all
the teams that we speak of, they're the ones you
sleep on the most, and they're eight and three, and
they're the ones that have been consistently better and better
every week. I don't want to sound like a broken record,
but on our show, I'm telling you they're like a
stock that just keeps going up.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
They're just going up and looking.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Better every week.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
The Bears are what happens when a plan works out
the way you think it will, Like, all right, we're
gonna get Ben Johnson and he what he's gonna do
is he's gonna, you know, really be an asset to
Kayleb Williams and you'll see, and it's working out the
way they want. At Chicago, crap never works out that way,
but it is working out perfectly. But you know, dare
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I look at the schedule just a little more.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh, the rich loves to look at the schedule.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
Game schedule, watch it. I love looking at the schedule.
And I'm sorry if it's a payin the st but
let me break something down because I said the Lions
are seven and four. They have a tough road ahead.
They could go five hund oh the rest of the way,
and I don't know if that's enough. Because we've talked
about how in the NFC, I think eleven and six
is that magic record that will get you into the postseason.
I think ten and seven will not make the playoffs,
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except for the winner of the NFC South, which is
probably gonna be like the Bucks at nine and eight
or something. I know we're still a little while away.
I don't want to look too much ahead. But here
I am getting down on the Lions. I want to
hear from you guys, Dan Patrick, Dan att Nation, because
I feel like you can make that same argument that
if all right, well, if the Packers lose today, they're
seven to four and one, they have to play the
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Bears twice. They have to play the Ravens and the Broncos.
The Ravens fighting for their division. The Broncos one of
the best AFC teams, so you could see the Packers
falling apart, and there's this weird sentiment that, you know,
six weeks ago, we're like, man, they got Michael Parsons,
this team's the team to be, and then all of
a sudden, they've played average. Jordan Loves had some good moments,
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but I think we also want to just believe that, man,
the Packers are a quarterback machine. Like they go from
you know, Brett Farve to Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love,
like we like too quick to think Jordan Love's in
that progression, like hold up, maybe not, I don't know.
And then your Bears here.
Speaker 4 (26:52):
People have been saying who are the Packers and their
identity to use?
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Are they?
Speaker 4 (26:58):
With that schedule coming up, you're gonna now real quick
who they really are because that's competitive.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
All right, Let's let's do the Bears schedule and then
we'll take your feedback At eight seven seven nine nine
on Fox. Appreciate it if you're listening on the app,
if you're on your way to Grandma's house or driving
around eight seven seven nine nine on Fox, Covino and
Rich try to keep it as interactive as possible. Love
filling in for Dan Patrick, I'll give you the Bears
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final six games. Now, I don't I don't want to
be a pain in the assen and make you do this,
but I'm going to.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
All right.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
They play tomorrow on Black Friday, inarguably their biggest game
of the year because they're eight and three, a test
of all tests. They go to Philadelphia. Let's say the
Eagles win, little little uh maybe maybe you could argue, hey,
it's a close game, but we'll give experience and home
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field to the Eagles tomorrow, and that's how that's how
you may look at it. Or what Eagles are favored
by seven? I thought that would be like three and
a half or so seven Vegas.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
The Bears and they're nine and three.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Alright, but let's let's let's be negative, uh nor BeRTOS
for a second. Let's be negative, Nancis. Let's say let's
say the Eagles just outclassed them. Now they're eight and four.
They played two games against the Packers. Still, let's say
they split those games, right, nine and five, one lost,
one win, right, you a little push they beat the Browns.
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Now they're ten and five, they play the forty nine
Ers in the Lions wow one and one, so they
may eleven and six like eleven and six, I think
is a conservative. I think that's fair to say, right,
because the Niners are gonna ed. Yeah, so I think today.
(28:48):
So I'll stick by my original feeling that whoever loses today,
Packers or Lions out out.
Speaker 1 (29:03):
Today.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
I'm pretty sure Danny g agrees.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
I think the whole show agrees that it is most
important for the Lions right now.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
I hate to say it, because again, I think all
these teams are fun, but you know what, through everyone
for a loop, the NFC West having three teams that
are gonna have double digit wins because I thought, I
think a lot of people thought that the forty nine
ers would either struggle if people were hurt, and they've
actually Kyle Shanahan's out coached the world. The Rams are
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really good. No one thought they'd be that good. I mean,
Matthew Stafford's been as healthy as could be and the
Coup was the only guy banged up for a little
bit and he's back. And the Seahawks that team, like,
if we're trying to figure out their identity, how about
Terry Denny's just said they're really good and Sam Donold's
playing like a g like that team's surprised the hell
out of me. So I think because the NFC West
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had the weakest out of conference schedule, out of division schedule,
they're all double digital in teams, a lot of tough
games for the NFC North. So one of those three
powerhouse teams is out. And I think I think it's
very clear that whoever loses today A is not going
to get a Turkey leg and they're Turkey and there
and then no Turkey ass.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
So that's the best part.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
So whoever loses today, Jared Goff might be walking away
without Turkey as and without a playoff spot.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
You know what the toughest part is.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Then you're saying all this, You're getting me excited, right hey, Rich,
great job crunching numbers, crunching schedule.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
I just love watching.
Speaker 4 (30:33):
I know, Yeah, I don't care about the Prey today.
I'm not even caring that much about the Turkey as.
I am really caring about these games. And that's what
we're trying to do. Get you pumped about it and
trying to see what you think about.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
It, think of how many years, Think of how many
years we watched a meaningless like Bears Lions Thanksgiving game
just because it was tradition and they were both under
five hundred. Today we have games of significance, and that
is significant because usually it's like a background football. We
love it, it's Thanksgiving. We actually have games that are
worthy of paying attention to.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
But dude, get this.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
I'm so glad you said, Okay, Timmy, no breaks, get.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
This games that you want to pay attention to, because why,
usually it's just background fun while you're stuff in your
face and chatting it up with Uncle Bart.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Right if Uncle.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Fred and your little uncle Bart's already drunk at lunch talk.
Speaker 4 (31:20):
No, but you got your little nieces and nephews and
family there, right, it's kind of hard to really chop
it up and pay attention to whatever nonsense they're yapping
about when you're so glued on these games that matter
for once, it's going to be so hard to be
engaged with your family that you never see when you're
really focused in on these games. Yeah, I guess wah wah,
(31:41):
wah wah, your uncle, your uncle Fred and Aunt Fanny,
You're like.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Wah wah, wah wah.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
And you're like, yeah, yeah, Uncle, tell me more. So
you went on a cruise switch Caribbean Carnival. Oh sounds great.
Oh so oh you met another couple on the cruise
from Oh that's tell me more.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
You are not going to care about anything anyone saying today.
Good luck trying to pay attention to that when you
got these games.
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Speaker 3 (32:28):
Rich do you hear that, affiliates?
Speaker 2 (32:30):
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Speaker 2 (32:59):
Like stuff into a turkey. We have a lot to
jam in real quick. So uh, there's a many pakia
thought and I just want to go over our picks
for today. We talked to Jim Well Pokio, the son
of many pac man pakiw and he makes his pro debut,
the son of a legendary boxer, makes his debut this
weekend actually out here in California, and we talked to
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him about his dad and whether or not he thinks
his dad should run it back with Mayweather. There's rumor
that it could be a big Netflix, big money thing.
Here's what Jim Well Paccio had to say. A lot
of rumors.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
About your dad, Manny and Floyd Mayweather too, a lot
of you know, you're on social media, you have a big.
Speaker 2 (33:42):
Presence on social and in other ways, rumors that you're
concerned about dad fighting again. Is that true?
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:47):
Yeah, I mean he's turning forty seven this December, so
you know, like I love him and I've been watching
him ever since, and like, you know, I don't really
want him to take any more punishment. You know, he's
He's accomplished a lot, and I think his eight division
record is unbreakable, so he's already done everything, you.
Speaker 4 (34:05):
Know, But he looks so good against Mario Barrios. Dude,
I watched it if I was in Mexico, watched that fight,
but he looked really good. You wanted to end like
that if you had your choice, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (34:17):
Yeah, if it was up to me, I would. I
wouldn't want him to find anymore. But you know, if
he does decide to take one more, then you know
I'm here to support.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
That's Jim Weel Pokyah again fighting Brendan Lalley on ESPN
Plus this weekend, so check that out. He's talking about
Manny as if he's like one hundred and forty six. Yeah,
and he's only forty six years old. That's old in boxing,
but yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I bet.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
By the way, that full interview is on our Fox
Sports Radio YouTube page, YouTube dot com, slash at Covino
and Rich FSR where you could watch us right now.
It just does get you thinking of though, as your
parents get older. What do you not want to see them?
Do I want to throw this out here as winter's hitting.
It was like recently, a couple of years ago, you
were on the East coast where you are now your parents' house,
(35:00):
and I remember you saying, yeah, my dad's outside shoveling snow.
Your dad's like seventy and you let him shovel snow. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (35:06):
Yeah, Well that's the question. It's like, hey, do you
want to keep him active?
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Right?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
And do you want to embarrass your your older relatives,
like as if they can't do it anymore, Like I
don't know if that's in your place or for them
to figure it out on their own, or how about this,
do you dad, if your parents are still around, right,
be grateful and thankful Thanksgiving if you're blessed enough to
still have this situation, do you let them flip the
bill if you happen to go out to dinner together,
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or do you say no, I got it because I'm
I'm the man now, right, Like I think.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
It's nice to offer, but some don't you. If your
parents insist, I think you'll let them. But it's nice
to you know, pay it back and pay for it
a little bit if they were great parents to you.
But yeah, there are things like, for instance, you get
to a certain age. My dad had to admit this
to himself because my dad's an active guy, plays tennis, golf,
So my dad's a really active seventy is your old guy.
He went on Vikigo travels quite a bit. One of
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the times he was in to Minica Republic or Aruba
or something, he went snorkeling, and he admits this, someone
had to jump in and sort to help him, and
he felt embarrassed and he's like, oh, my snorkeling days
are over. He's like, you know, he goes, I test
my limits and he's like, some things you got to
just say I'm done with. And he's like scuba diving
and snorkeling. He's like, it's not a seventy year old
(36:19):
man's game.
Speaker 4 (36:20):
Well, I think Chimwell handles it perfectly. He's like, hey,
he expresses how he feels about it. But at the
same time, if Manny chooses to still do those things, he's.
Speaker 3 (36:28):
Like, I'm here to support him.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
So it's a question they have to ask yourself, do
you step in, do you man the grill? Because you're
an adult now, and tell dad to take a back seat.
You know, if you're a woman, do you tell mom
I got the turkey? Or do you let them still
do what Mom and dad still want to do.
Speaker 2 (36:44):
That's a good one because a lot of times, a
lot of times you want to be like, listen, you
don't have to host anymore. I'll host Mom. You're you
know you're sixty or seventy. Why are you going to
slave over the oven in the kitchen? My wife or
my sister or I'll do it, someone else will do it,
but I don't know. Then, much like someone that retires,
then you feel like, well, what do we do now?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Wow?
Speaker 2 (37:06):
You just heard Leak Courso the other day said since
he's been off of college football coverage, life sucks, like
you know, so why I let.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Him live if they can think about it.
Speaker 4 (37:15):
We talked to Jim Well about his fight this weekend
and a lot about Manny and Manny's future. Over Promised
Episode one nineteen at Covino and Rich FSR.
Speaker 2 (37:23):
I now all my NFL picks. I got some great
parlays and teasers, all that great stuff. I call it
great stuff because it is on our bonus podcast, Over Promised,
which is right there with that interview on the same
episode as our interview with Jim wellpociaw on our YouTube page.
Would love you to check that out, but I do
want to get your pick on one game, the one
that starts like in an hour. Do we like the
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Lions or Packers. Where's your instinct? Because the loser, we
said it before, the loser could see themselves out of
the playoff mix in a month from now.
Speaker 3 (37:52):
I'm going Lions on this one, man.
Speaker 4 (37:53):
I think this is where they turn it around and
we see how tough and g ready the Lions still are.
Speaker 2 (37:58):
They're not as Yeah, Josh jas back right, Josh Jacobs
is healthy. So I'm going Packers. I think Packers win
and the Lions are in a really rough spot.
Speaker 6 (38:08):
Danny g thoughts really quick. I think the Lions are
going to handle it at home, all right.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
I got Packers.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Ramsey, thank you, Spotty, thank you. Have a happy Thanksgiving
everyone at Kobe and r Rich thanks to letting the
film for DP.
Speaker 3 (38:22):
By see you in the Promised Land. Happy Thanksgiving,