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December 10, 2025 64 mins

C&R can't believe the sad week for Mets fans! Ever a good enough reason to jump ship? They take calls about it. Knicks get some love & they confuse 1st caller during 'MIKE'S WORDS OF WISDOM!' Mad Dog Russo was caught on video nearly breaking his legs after a disastrous halfcourt shot "attempt." Did he expose himself, or are we taking ourselves too serious? Plus, 'MID WEAK MAJOR' & more! 

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Vomit What are you vomiting about? Peter Ross everything in baseball?
That's disgruntled Mets fan Rich Davis. I'm Cavino. It's Caveno
on Rich on Fox Sports Radio with Danny G. Super producer.
Welcome back, Good night Wednesday. I know how committed Danny

(00:43):
G is to our show and to radio, and he
loves what he does. So for him to have missed
the last two shows, he had to be really sick.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
So glad to see her doing better.

Speaker 3 (00:52):
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spot's getting ready for midweek major because it's a hump day.
He's on the videos Covino and Rich FS and we
be rocking. Hell let's go so Rich. Great to see him, man,
I'm sorry, Betty.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
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play timmy trumpets for the Dodgers. I heard Danny G's
your new trumpet player.

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Speaker 4 (01:54):
Now we're giving away prizes today. But rich Man, I.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
Really am sorry because it feels like and this is
outside looking in. I'm on the outside. I'm looking in
like Aaron Lewis of Stain. It feels like your team
is crumbling. It feels like your team is falling apart.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I don't know why. That's the thing. Cave, you know,
it's like you know they talk about all one. He's
the you know, best owner in baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
And the culture there is great and everyone loves it
and they're so good to.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
The families listen, much like Dan.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Campbell when he was talking about who We're gonna buite
kneecaps and everyone's like, look at this dope, and then
it ended up working out. The Lions never won a
Super Bowl, and I don't think they're headed there.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
They shifted their culture though, for sure.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
But when you talk about Stearns, I don't think what
he's doing is rubbing anyone the right way.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Like you're the guy, you're the.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
President of Baseball Operations and you know you're here with
Steve Cohen.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
You guys are both lifelong Mets fans.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
I don't know how you let Diaz go for a
couple million more to the one you need to beat,
and then the next day, if that's not bad enough,
the face of your franchise, the home run leader, polar
Bear Pete. My kids have his shirt like it's it's
the worst Pete Alonzo going to the Orioles.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Well, it's obvious as to why Alonso left. Okay, Alonzo's
gone five year deal, one hundred and fifty five million
to the Orioles.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
He didn't go there. To the win.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
I don't believe they're contenders, but hell of a ballpark.
He'll be hitting bombs. Clearly he's trying to hit five
hundred home runs, is what he's trying. And you know
what he might at that park. Great park, great vibe, Kim,
the yards is great. But they have a long way
to go. But things change quick. I think this is
clearly a situation of he was disrespected last year, he

(03:50):
bet on himself put up big numbers again. I don't
feel the fans embraced them the way they should have.
He's been a lifelong met He's always been clutch for
you guys.

Speaker 1 (03:59):
God only the only guy that the fans relate to
when he does is like you know, LFGM and I
don't know, yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:08):
But I feel like the fans didn't have his back
enough when he was fighting to stay right. Everyone was
looking forward seeing who they could get when Alonso was
there the whole time. I really think this is a
case of job security and the five years, and I
think that meant more to him than dealing with the
Mets again and with Diaz. You know, they had Devin Williams,

(04:30):
but he had an opportunity with the Dodgers. You can't
blame him for that. So there's reasons, and I understand.
But what's gross about this, Rich is man that the
Dodgers keep getting better. But as far as your team's concerned,
you're still in it. You got Simmy and you got Sodo,
you got Lindor. It's a matter of who could you
get in the bullpen. The Mets are still looking good,
but you lost some really really big pieces.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Do you try to get Tucker? Do you get Cody Bellinger?
Do you make a trade for schoob bl I'm not
gonna Oh god, I so badly want to overreact like
every New York Mets fan that's, you know, pulling their
hair out, losing their minds like you, Alonzo's gone and
Diaz is gone. But I look at it this way, man,
it's we don't know what the roster looks like. If
you told me you need some bait, you need some bait.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Because we said this yesterday, Rich, When you lose Daz
to the Dodgers for the chance to win and play
in LA and play with the greats, anyone that was
on the fence about staying or playing with the Mets
is gone.

Speaker 4 (05:28):
Pete Alonzo. He's like, Daz is out.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Oh, I play with this team all the pressure of
New York and no one appreciates me. Anyway, I'm out.
Now that Daz and Alonzo are out, it's even a
tougher pull to want to go there. So if I'm
Cody Bellinger now, or if I'm a big time reliever,
I'm like, man, I'm not sure. So that's the only
tough part here, Like they're gonna really have to open
up the wallet. I don't think they have a problem

(05:51):
doing that, but it does send up a red flag
a little bit to those guys, you know, weighing out
their options, that hey, maybe something is up with the Mets.

Speaker 4 (05:59):
Maybe this isn't the place to be. Why are these
other people leaving now?

Speaker 1 (06:03):
Steve Collen might be the best owner in baseball, but
what if Stearns is a guy that people really don't like.
So I heard Edwin Diaz, you know from my met sources,
that he was sort of mad, and a lot of
personnel was mad that they fired pitching coach Jeremy Hefner, who.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Was very well loved within the organization.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
Those little things add up, and I don't know, I'm
not going to overreact until I see what the roster
looks like going into opening Daycause all of a sudden, listen,
if you get Tucker and you know Cody Bellinger and
you'd make a trade for school Bawl.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
And there's still a lot to do.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
But let me tell you the weakest start to the offseason,
as they call it the hot stove. You lose Diaz
and Pete Alonso and all you have to show ford is, oh,
and you lost Nimo, who was a fan favorite.

Speaker 2 (06:49):
I didn't care for Nimo, but you have three big
pieces gone.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
But you know how you could look at it, yo,
those three guys didn't do Jack Diddeley squad. They made
a one playoff run and both of those guys have
been the team for a while. So don't you have
to mix it up? When people say we're gonna blow
up the team right now, that's sort of what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Right It's odd because you still got some big names,
but there's some really really big names also jumping ship.
It's a matter of what sort of moves they make
moving forward. But based on this guys big news today
again is a tough week for Mets fans. A tough
week for Rich based on this and Rich living in

(07:27):
la Is there ever a reason? Is there ever a
reason for you Rich as a fan to jump ship?

Speaker 1 (07:35):
If there ever was, now would be it? I'm really
testing my Mets fandom. Do I really bleed blue and Orange?

Speaker 2 (07:41):
I guess that jump ship?

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Your dad went from Yankees to the Mets.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
He did. My kids are like, Dad, we like the Dodgers, part.

Speaker 5 (07:50):
Of me to the Mets. Why would you do that?
That's like jumping from the water into a ship. That
doesn't make sense, the reverse jumping ship.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
You know why.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
My mom's family were Mets fans, and I think my
dad just you know, oh, you know what it was.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
My dad blames the Bronx.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
My dad went to Fordham University in the Bronx and
got his car stolen two times. And he's like, AF
the Bronx, AF the Yankees, and he's like and he.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Lives in Queens.

Speaker 6 (08:13):
Carjackers.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
You got to remember Iowa Sam, I can't.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
I'm switching teams for this.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Well, keep in mind the Mets were a new franchise
in the sixties. Keep that moving fresh start, you know, Dodgers, Blue, Giants, Orange.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
A lot of people don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
That's how the Mets got their colors two teams that
left for the West Coast. The Mets are blue and
orange because of the Dodgers and the Giants. And you know, Kavina,
I love your question because I think that might be
one of the answers when you say, is there any
real reason to ever ever leave a team? And I
think franchises moving might be one of the few exceptions.

(08:52):
Like we have buddies that are like, yeah, I used
to be a Rams fan, then they left another back
and I'm like f them, or you know, but wev
in Saint Louis, Like I was a Rams fan, but
then they left Saint Louis. I'm not a Rams fan anymore.
So maybe that's the reason.

Speaker 3 (09:06):
Well, we brought this up yesterday and we were talking
to Dan Bayer. You'll do anything for your kids, and
Rich is raising LA kids and they're growing up in
LA culture where sho Heyo Tani and Freddy Frehiman and
Mookie Bets and all these players are iconic and legendary.
All the kids in school are trading their cards and
wearing their jerseys, and his kids riches kids. They're all

(09:27):
excited about the Dodgers, and I mentioned that even the
corneis things, if your kids love them, you'll appreciate them
as their parent. All their goofy shows, all their little cartoons,
all of their little kiddies songs, all the things they
like are near and dear to you because you're their parent.
So I think if your kid is really showing a

(09:48):
lot of promise or a lot of fandom to a team,
I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just saying I could
see that being a catalyst for you to start embracing them.
And that is what's happening to you, whether you want
to admit it or not.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, I have a soft spot for the Dodgers, which
might be, you know, might be breaking like a man
sports rule or something. But I'm still a Mets fan.
I can't abandon this miserable franchise. But I gotta ask
you this if you're me, because I'll think I'll give
you my thoughts if you're me, and you hear that.
Diaz gets an offer from the Mets, and they told

(10:24):
Diaz and.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
There's wiggle room.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
He goes to the Dodgers, doesn't even come back to
see what the Mets counter is he's like the own
stuggle room.

Speaker 4 (10:33):
Was it next to the clubhouse somewhere?

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, that's that comes to the contract access to the
wiggle room.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
He had his own bathroom and his own wiggle room.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Hey, and then you know, by the way, Cavino, he's
gonna be at a chuckles in Burbecue this weekend.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Thank you, Danny G.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Hey, I don't see the Fox Sports radio hosts making
those uh making those jokers taking those chances, Danny G.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
I even saw that the Dodgers already started breaking out
the organ and for Edwin DS day later.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Listen to this.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
I don't feel like Danny G busted out the organ
for d Are you telling about the big triton cord?

Speaker 7 (11:10):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (11:11):
Yeah, man, uh Deeter rule the famous of course.

Speaker 1 (11:15):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (11:16):
He replaced the legendary organist at Dodger Stadium a decade
or so ago. And he's a friend of the show.
I know he listens to the network. Listen to how
he welcomed Edwin Diaz.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Oh you know what's interesting about that, Danny G.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
I'm gonna vomit on myself.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
Did the Mets sort of give him that intro?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Or is that something he came up with on his own,
because how does he take that showmanship over to Dodger Stadium?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Is that his? Or is that the it's his?

Speaker 1 (12:01):
I wonder does he go with the timmy trumpets or
does he have the organ player do it? He's got
to have the light show and everything. You guys, oh
so disgusting. How the Dodgers get better? And that's a problem.
So let me let me go back to my more.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Fun that die.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
What makes the Dodgers disgusting is that, well, they have
over a five hundred million dollar payroll, but their superstars
are likable, and this makes them even more likable and
even more fun, Like, not only do you got to
show Heo Tani and everything else, but you got this
showmanship and the theatrics of Edwin Diaz coming in from
the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (12:36):
It's insane.

Speaker 1 (12:38):
Your thoughts, and again, I don't want to make this
about my Mets, So make it about your team. What
could your team do? What could your team do to
have you possibly jump ship? And I have one answer
based on Steve Cavino that I'm gonna throw out there,
and it's it's a little bit of a juicy, dirty one.
I'll get to that in a second. But let me
tell you about Edwin Diaz again. Back to your wiggle

(13:01):
room joke. Oh, he didn't even come back to the
Mets to see what that.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Wiggle room was.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
He was so quick to be like, all right, you
know what, I'm a dollar now, I'm a dodger. Pete
Alonzo accepts the five year, one point fifty five without
even accepting an offer from the Mets. What does that
tell you about what the Mets front office is doing
right now?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
They're very put off, is sho.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
It also goes to show you that New York doesn't
have this mystique that it once had, and that's slowly
dwindling every year that goes by without a championship and
without the luster of just New York City. Man, I mean,
we're from there. Keep that in mind. We're from the
East Coast. We worked and built our career in Manhattan,
in New York City. It's sort of a down time
to be there and to play there, It really is.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
The expectations are high and for what I just heard
that Grimace signed with the Phillies.

Speaker 4 (13:53):
Oh man, it's tough week for the Mets fans.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Hey O no, but I honestly, I might just have
to accept the fact that the Mets had a magical,
beautiful run two years ago with Timmy Trumpets and Grimace
Hawk to a girl Lindor and all the magic, and
that that might've just been a cool moment, and it
might be another five to ten years when Steve Cohen
took over this team. Mets fans a runder the illusion

(14:16):
that oh, we're gonna be like the Dodgers and Yankees
and Phillies and teams that make it every year. And
already it looks like ass. And so if Pete a Lonzo,
come you out says I don't even want to see
the Mets offer I'm going to the Orioles, and Edwin
Diaz says, I'm good. I don't even need to see
the wiggle room. What does that tell you about David Stearns.

(14:37):
What does that tell you about how the front office
is rubbing people.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
Or how maybe some of the other superstars are rubbing people,
or how they really feel about the organization.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Like you said, Rich, I'm.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Getting a lot of feedback because based on this Rich's terrible, horrible,
no good, very bad day.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Is want of a jerk and we just don't know it.

Speaker 8 (14:54):
Man.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
Maybe I'm getting feedback because the question is, well, what
would it take for you to jump ship from your
team and west from Vegas, west from Idaho? Says if
your team had a twenty year streak of suck, I
think you're allowed to jump ship. He started giving you
the pass, Rich, it's been a long time eighty six,

(15:17):
it's a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
I'm not doing it. You know, I told you my
son is going to be six.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
Who if you watch yesterday show, my son Ben got
to play a little game on the air with us.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Ben is six.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Just put in perspective, that's how old I was when
the Mets won the World Series.

Speaker 4 (15:35):
You're picking your nuts. Tell yeah, you were an under Russ.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Daniel Javier Fetz says, I was a Packers fan, and
when Farv left, I did too. I realized I was
more of a far fan than the actual Packers. And
if you're a kid and you feel that way, if
you're a kid like I kind of understand that. So
that was his reasoning for jumping ship. Let's see nature

(15:59):
Boy thirty two says, DS probably got his own trumpet.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Player, and he was like, yeah, I'm out whoa getting.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
I got one? That a reason to leave a team
now since I'm having a rough day, rough week.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And in addition to this, not that you need to
feel sad for me, looks like my dog's in our
final stages, jeez, which is like miserable for the family,
miserable for me, miserable, Like.

Speaker 3 (16:27):
Make it through the holidays, please, I don't think it's
gonna happen really, yeah, man, So.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Like it's like a day to day thing.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
So I'm like trying to explain to my kids, like,
you know, dogs don't live forever. And I'm like, on
top of that, my teams are falling apart, my wife's
out of town for a family emergency.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
Like it's been an ass of a week, but I
have a fun one. So let me throw you under
the bus for a second.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
In the in the two thousands, when you and I
first became friends, you and a girlfriend dump you for
a guy on the New Jersey Nets.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
True story. Then you had another girl dump you for
a New York Ranger.

Speaker 3 (17:03):
True story, back to back. And by the way, they
weren't just like girlfriends I was dating. I was with
them for three four years at a time. Each girl
like long term relationships, and it was not good for
the ego or confidence when I was living at mom's
house trying to make it in radio.

Speaker 1 (17:18):
So my question is, when you talk about reasons to
stop your fandom if your team sucks for decades, if
your team moves, what if your girl starts sleeping with
a dude on the team you root for?

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Can you root for that? God?

Speaker 1 (17:32):
Can you root for the team, like, can you know
God forbid your ex instead of a ranger? What if
all of a sudden she started banging Paul O'Neil or something.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Oh my goodness, a warrior. There's no way I could
go back there.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
What if all of a sudden you found out that
your girl was having sleepovers a Bernie Williams house.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
I'd say that would burn, baby burn. I'd say that
would be a legitimate reason. I'll tell you this from experience, dude,
and thanks for rubbing it in Rich What a poky.
I think that at my days of going to nets games,
at that primo time of my life when I had
the time to do so, ended abruptly. Guess who I

(18:09):
stopped going to see? Guess whose team I stopped watching?
The New jersey nets. They are the new jersey nets.
At the time, it was just too tough. So yeah,
I think those are legitimate reasons. I do if you
happen to be in that weird situation that I was in,
I had a streak of bad luck. And by the way,
you could chime in not only on the phones at
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, but we are

(18:31):
streaming live on YouTube, so there's a live YouTube chat
where you could chop it up with Lisa, Neste Ban
and Nathan Nathaniel Richards and n W Covino and Rich
FSR on YouTube.

Speaker 4 (18:44):
Covino and rich FSR.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
Who do we got, Danny g Let's start with Matt
in La Matt cal.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
Matty, Matt, You're on the show, Covino and Rich.

Speaker 9 (18:54):
Yo, Covino and Rich natural content back by since your holiday, bs,
what up? A couple of things to me, It's like
one like, I mean, I'm a nineties kid on here
in La trading a favorite player. I'm in the minority
here with the Lakers.

Speaker 8 (19:11):
I was a huge nicka.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Oh wait say that again. You were a huge what
you were a huge what?

Speaker 8 (19:19):
Nick?

Speaker 9 (19:22):
I was flushed and I know they brought in shit
out and they brought a Kobe, but it also brought
in a bunch of casual fans and I didn't like that.

Speaker 10 (19:29):
And also just moving change of locations.

Speaker 9 (19:32):
I mean all the La Ram fan as a kid
with Jerome Venice and everything, and when they up and
moved to Saint Louis.

Speaker 10 (19:38):
That just that was just crushing. I mean, granted they.

Speaker 9 (19:40):
Moved back, but honestly, it's just.

Speaker 2 (19:42):
Not the same.

Speaker 3 (19:43):
Hey, if your team moves, yeah, they left you, and
maybe a new team comes into town and and maybe
you embraced them, like I get that. And I think
the real, subtle, behind the scenes reason Rich poses this question,
because we've asked this before, is because he's had such
a tough week any serious se debating jumping on ship
and having fun with his kids and enjoying Los Angeles

(20:06):
to the state the city he lives in, and start
rooting for the Dodgers, and he's probably you're probably wondering,
that's what words in your mouth? How much flak will
give you as a lifelong Mets fan, buddy, Ricky switching teams.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
There's there's two levels to this. Yes, you guys bust
on my balls. As a big deterrent, absolutely right. I
would be a I would be a frauds as Rob
Parker would say, fraud fou gayzy. I would be the
worst if I if I left the Mets. But then
you know what happened, all Hall, You know what happened.
If I left the Mets, They'd win a World Series

(20:41):
in the next five years and I would not be
able to really cheer for it.

Speaker 5 (20:45):
No, Rich, come on, like, you will always just be
a Mets fan on the back burner. So if they
do ever get good, you could just go right back.

Speaker 6 (20:50):
It's fine.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
You can't quit being a Mets fan.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
You can't be a wishy washing and.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
Then then then me going from Mets to the Dodgers
is wishy washy. So just stay with the Mets, you know,
for them.

Speaker 1 (21:05):
I have a buddy, Rob, a Brooklyn dude that lives
out here in La one of my buddies I play
softball with. He's the late forties, so he never saw
the Jets win anything. He was not born and you know,
he was born after nineteen sixty nine and he's been
a lifelong Jets fan. Two years ago he made a
choice and I was like, because he's not the type

(21:26):
that would. He's sort of like a man's man. He's like, Yo,
this f the Jets. I'm done. He's like, I live
in La I'm here for you know, the last ten
plus years. I'm a Chargers guy now, and I'm like,
for really goes? I like Jim Harbaugh, you know, justin
Herbert's cool fit. Yo, I'm done with the Jets.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
I go for Really.

Speaker 3 (21:44):
He's like, yep, is that just a conscious decision? You
could just start liking things because you decided to. I
don't know, There's gotta be more to it, you know,
I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
Rich.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
What could really make you jump ship to is your
love of certain players, Meaning like if you were young
enough to appreciate Jordan in the nineties, and let's say
you were a kid from New York, you could easily
went from the Knicks to the Bulls because of his
super stardom.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Shoaho Tani, he's getting fancy.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
What about the people? What about the people that jump
on and they don't stay on? Like, for instance, I
jumped on the Niners as a kid because my dad
thought Joe Montana and probably still think Shoe Montana was
the coolest dude ever.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
He wasn't wrong. So as a kid, I can see
you saying, hell, yeah he is.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
So my dad's like, oh, I love Montana, so do you.
He bought me a little Montana jersey, so I was
never a front runner. Yeah they were good, but I
was a five year old kid. The same way. My
son's like Freddie and Mookie, and you know I love Montana.
You love Hannah Montana. I love her too. My Ley
celebrating twenty years of Hannah Montana next year. See, I
know all Montana told you so cove. Joe Montana was

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the way that I got into the Niners, and I've
loved him through Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Kaepernick, you know,
Jimmy G.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
Brock Purty.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
You know, my dad doesn't love them as much as
I do. My dad likes the Niners, but my dad's like,
I love Montana now like he does, he does not
love him as much as I do.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
I said, Joe Montaga because he caught you at a
very easily influential life.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
I'm saying that's sort of how some people were, like
I love Jordan the Bulls, and then when Jordan retired, like, yeah,
I guess I like the bulls.

Speaker 3 (23:28):
I suppose you know, like you know, but I'm just
trying of reasons that you would jump. And a superstar
that transcends the game, could really you win could be
the answer.

Speaker 6 (23:38):
I don't get though.

Speaker 5 (23:39):
I mean, maybe it's because I grew up a college
football fan where the turnovers every four years, But like,
I don't get this whole rooting for a player and
where he goes on the team, Like, you either root
for the team or you don't.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
The whole rooting for players thing is a very gen
z thing to do.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
My brother, who's younger than me, was a little influential kid.
When Mookie Wilson, Remember Mookie Wilson, he traded from the
Mets of the blue Jays. My brother didn't become a
Blue Jays fan, but I remember there was a year
where he bought a Blue Jay's hat and he's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (24:06):
With Mookie, And I was like, what do you like
the blue Jays Now? He's like, I love Mookie Wilson,
so listen, I get it. Well, one last thing.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
I know we're running late, but when I was watching
Monday night football Eagles, Chargers, Danny g it doesn't strike
you being that you're a longtime LA guy. When I
see all those people like emphatically cheer for the Chargers,
I almost feel like their plants, like that woman from
a couple of years ago, because I'm like, who really
likes the Chargers in LA?

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Like, how do you just pick up a team? That's
what I get what Kevin I's saying.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
That, Rich, how did your buddy go from rooting for
the Jets and then rooting for a team who has
never won a Super Bowl in the Chargers. I like,
you actually picked like a team that's like kind of
on the same level as the Jets in a lot
of ways.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
There's a lot of layers here, a lot of layers here.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Yeah, I think it has to happen organically. I don't
think you could wake up one day and say, you
know what today's today, I decide to root for Chargers.

Speaker 4 (24:54):
Also, that's weird to me.

Speaker 6 (24:55):
Also, Covino, your boy CC Sabathia. A couple of months ago,
after a bad Raider loss, Don't ask me which one,
he posted on social media picture of him, his mom
and sister outside of the Oakland Coliseum back in the day,
and he said, I know that wins are really important
to all of us. But some things with our teams
are more important than wins and losses, like my family

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and our traditions and everything. Culture, all my memories of
my family and our team together.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Yeah, that's true, man.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
And when you have culture like that, like the Raiders
fans do, I don't think you could ever jump ship.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Look. Rich's prisoner of the moment. It's a sad week.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
He's got a heavy heart, his doggie's sick, he's losing
a player.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
He's on my doggie's on our deathbed. And the Mets
you're getting rid of all their players. What am I
gonna do with my Shaye Stadium snow globe around the holidays?

Speaker 4 (25:45):
Is there ever a reason to leave your team?

Speaker 3 (25:48):
Petelazzo leaving for five years, one hundred and fifty five
million to the Orioles. Scott Fermeyer says, you just need
to have a quote unquote side piece team Rich and
as a side piece a La Janie Rossi apartment too.
Are your gumad team? Do you have one and just

(26:10):
don't tell anybody about it? Is that how it works?
So you have some joy on the side, But we
got something?

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Are you saying the Dodgers it's okay if they're like
my side booty, that's hey.

Speaker 3 (26:20):
I'm telling you what Scott said. He recommended that, you know,
keep it big in discreets.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
You know we have By the way, I'm not leaving
the Mets for the record, that's I'm not cut from
that cloth and being like, yeah, I'm out. I'll stick
with this stupid team forever. But I will say, you know,
we've seen I'll give you an example. There's a guy
that you and I know from Brooklyn.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
His name is Vinnie. Read this and we're gonna get
to all the phone calls.

Speaker 1 (26:46):
Vinnie, who you know, is the most abrasive Met fan
you know, goes what the f happened in the last
twenty four hours? It's really is it really worth watching
this f and dumpster fire for an s bag organization?

Speaker 2 (26:59):
I may tap like this is like a lifer, you know, Vini.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
Yeah, he's hardcore Mets. I mean, it's disappointing, it really is.
It's a really bad week. You're losing your superstars, and
it's it's extra hurtful when you made all the other
moves to make it better, you know, again the big
Wan Soto deal, for example, But Let's go to the
phones eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox, Cavino and Rich Danny G
who we.

Speaker 6 (27:21):
Got another Matt, this time in Georgia.

Speaker 4 (27:24):
Hey, Matt, Yo, what's up Georgia?

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Matt?

Speaker 10 (27:26):
What's up? Fellas?

Speaker 11 (27:27):
Listen?

Speaker 7 (27:28):
I feel like if you got a side team or
a secondary team, you don't even have a team.

Speaker 6 (27:33):
And this is coming from an.

Speaker 7 (27:34):
Atlanta Falcons Atlanta Hawks fan.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Like I could have, I would.

Speaker 6 (27:40):
I'm fifty years old. I would have traded him forty
years ago if I could. I just couldn't do it.

Speaker 7 (27:44):
And I hate to mix two stories together, Cavino, but
I would give.

Speaker 6 (27:49):
Anybody on the team my girl for a championship.

Speaker 7 (27:52):
For one of those teams, y'all yo, he had all.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
That over, he would tell White to go ahead with
Michael Pennix Junior form meant the super Bowl? Camino crazy enough,
our buddy Donnie Popador who listens. He recently said, damn you,
Michael Vick for pulling me into this Falcons team, because
now I can't now, like all these years later, they suck,
like you can't leave.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Who else we got, Danny G.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Let's go to Vegas. Larry, Hey, Larry.

Speaker 7 (28:19):
Larry, what's going on now?

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Anybody?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Yo?

Speaker 7 (28:24):
Hey, this is what I said. It's a lot of
people in Vegas. They're getting passes because we never had
a professional NFL team, no, a major league team coming,
so a lot of people had teams like the Giants
or whatever. But now that the Raiders here, they was like,
they're giving them passes. Like and I'm like, I'm fifty three, bro,
I'm from the old school. I'm a Buffalo Bills and
it's to the cast gets dropped. But you got people

(28:44):
in Vegas that are literally think it's okay.

Speaker 4 (28:47):
Here's the difference.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Ever happen Larry.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Respect Larry dude, but he's rooting for the Bills. The
Bills are a great team. What if you root for
the Jets and you're you're in Vegas. Isn't this a
perfect like pivotal moment to maybe say, you know, maybe
it's time.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
There's some exceptions.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
I feel the reason I'm staying with the Mets no
matter what, is because I feel what Larry said. When
you see Vegas Raiders fans or like I said, Chargers
fans in LA, it's like, what did you do a couple.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Of years ago.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now, all of a sudden, you go justin Herbert like
it feels full gazy.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
You had out enough for a week ass team. You're happy,
But you know that is a unique situation that I'd
have to hear you out. I'm not a fan of
leaving your team, but I'd have to hear that one out.
Who else you got, DANNYJ Let's go to Charlotte and
it's Tracy, Tracy, what's up?

Speaker 12 (29:36):
Hey? Hey, you guys love your show caller, longtime listener,
and I think everybody's fan experience can be defined by them.
They just have to deal with whatever the consequences of
their decisions. So I changed teams. I grew up forty
nine Ers fan New York Man's fans. When I moved

(29:58):
to Charlotte in nineteen nine, my first time I ever
lived in a city with a football team. I grew
up in a small town. Take the forty nine Ers
because of Joe Montana, because somebody gave me a jersey
when I was five years old, and I chose conscious
decision to embrace this team that was local. They were
brand new. I think it was the year after they started,

(30:21):
and I have lived with those Panthers for thirty years
and it has been a lot of good times and
mostly miserable times.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Man, you know, you remind us of our friend Drew
in Nashville. You guys know our bud, Drew mack Cavino.
He's a lifelong Colts fan, but he lives in Nashville
and he sort of runs things in Nashville. His kids
loved the Titans. Listen, not that they're good this year,
but he had season tickets to the Titans, and he's like,
I know they're in the same division, so it's even
more wonky. But he has a soft spot for the Titans.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
It happens, all right, So I do have a final thought,
Jerry Springer's style. We got one more phone call on this,
but first an update from the great Dan Byer.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
Guys.

Speaker 11 (31:01):
A huge news breaking within the last hour or so
is that the University of Michigan has fired at football
coach Sharon Moore after two seasons.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
Wow.

Speaker 11 (31:09):
Michigan Athletic director Ward Manuel releasing a statement saying that
Moore was terminated with cause as there is credible evidence
that Moore had an inappropriate relationship with a staff member.
More went fifteen and eight during his two seasons at Michigan.
Biff Pogey is expected to take over as the interim
head coach as Michigan will be playing in the Citrus

(31:30):
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Speaker 1 (32:19):
Opens up on the left side and he stuffs it
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Speaker 3 (32:27):
New York Advances in the Cup quarterfinal and now take
on Orlando in the semifinals.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Man, there's some sad Nicks and Mets fan out there
being like, well, I guess at least the Knicks are
still in the Cup.

Speaker 3 (32:39):
The Cup embarrassing, well rich, you know the question based
on Alonso now leaving Diaz An Alonso left the Mets
this week.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
It's tough.

Speaker 3 (32:50):
I think here's my prediction. If the question is when's
it okay to leave your team? You're an old school
sort of guy, and you have an old school way
of thinking, and I feel like our generation was a
little more loyal. But today these pros ain't loyal. These
pros are not loyal. They jump ship and they played
for those teams. As this younger generation comes up, you

(33:12):
think they're going to be loyal to teams. They're not
loyal to their own relationships. They're not loyal to their
own marriages. How fickle are young people in today's life?
In today's world of dating, someone gave you the ick
because they jumped over a puddle funny and you broke
up with them. You think those type of people care
about loyalty. I think based on this, based on the

(33:33):
way sports is moving. We're gonna see this happening more
and more often. There's no loyalty when it comes to
this stuff moving forward.

Speaker 1 (33:41):
Can I wrap it up by saying, just over the
last twenty years, I've seen that sentiment because your brother
who's thirty year old, Dude, your younger brother significantly younger,
he'll wear like an A's hat because he's like, yo,
it's green and it matches my sneakers.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Dude, I like the Aes. I guess he'll wear he'll
wear other teams apparel because it looks cool. You would never.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Never, never look Lisa even said loyalty is a dying
trait in general. So as these younger people come up,
that means nothing to them. They're like, yeah, I like
the Yankees, but I also like this team, Or I
like the Yankees, but they got my favorite players, so
now I like the Mits. Like I think, based on
the mindset of younger people on their come up, is
going to be more and more common as time goes on.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Well, we're gonna get to a lot of NFL football
for the rest of the show. But Cavino final thought,
are you shocked at Pete Alonzo didn't even even even
for maybe even h optics, at least hear the Mets out.
Is that weird to you? I think it's odd that
he didn't even hear them out.

Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, that just goes to show you that his mind
was set, his mind was made up already.

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Danny g we got one more call.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
Yeah, let's wrap it with Michael in Canada. He's calling
for Montreal.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Jumping shit, Mike, what's up?

Speaker 10 (34:54):
How you guys doing? A huge, huge, huge fan of
your show.

Speaker 4 (34:57):
Love what you do, appreciate it?

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Oh duff? Thank you man.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
I that expos documentary, and I'm sure you're probably gonna
talk a little expos right.

Speaker 10 (35:04):
No, believe it or not, I'm not. I'm not heartbroken
that the team's been gone. It's crazy that we even
had one here. Drive by the stadium all the time.
It's the probably the ugliest building in our in our
fair city. But I grew up my When I was
nine years old, my mom brought me to a sports
store and bought me a hat out of a discounted bin,
a corduroy purple hat with a Minnesota Vikings logo on it.

(35:26):
And I have a Vikings fans for the last forty
five years because of it, and yeah, you know, they
break my heart every every year. It's getting worse by
the day here this year. And I always joke with
my buddies, if ever you need Vikings gear and you
can't find it online, call me up because I've got
it all. But I don't know what to do now.
You know, I'm stuck with this team forever. My kids

(35:47):
have got the affliction and they all make fun of
me for it.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, co, well, thank you man. I thought he was
going to go exposed. Let's say you are a dude
in Montreal or woman in Montreal in the exposed leave
Are you a national stan or well, of course.

Speaker 3 (36:00):
Yeah that was reason to leave. Yeah, sometimes there's unique situations.
That's definitely a classic one. So next Hour Rich Midweek Major,
the biggest stories in sports and pop culture. Mike's Wednesday
Words of Wisdom. We got prizes to give away and
riches in a crime more about his Mets. We do
it every Wednesday. Mike has wisdom. He has words you

(36:22):
have to remember and repeat verbatim, and if.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
You do, you win a football A lah. Philip Rivers,
All right, let's hear it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
It's time for the guy that runs this place.

Speaker 11 (36:34):
Just for clarification, guys, Big Mike does not run this place.

Speaker 6 (36:38):
He is not in charge of everything. He has no
power over really anybody here. He does not run this place.

Speaker 13 (36:44):
It's Big Mike's words of wisdom on a Wednesday.

Speaker 14 (36:52):
When making dinner for your children, it doesn't have to
be fancy, just edible and not on fire.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
It's pretty wise of Mike to make sure the kiddies
are safe. So if you could repeat that verbatim, you
win a prize. Simple as that. And if you're busy,
you can't call in right now. There's other ways. Follow
our YouTube page Coveno and Rich FSR say some nice things.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Get Dannyg's attention.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
If he emails you, you get a prize, or just
follow the podcast, leave a nice review Coveno and Rich
wherever you stream your podcasts, So.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
We'll take some as wisdom.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
By the way, Yeah, why you aren't feeling it?

Speaker 1 (37:34):
Well, no, I'm saying, like you know, on a TV
show gets renewed and they're like, oh, we never thought
beyond this.

Speaker 2 (37:41):
Did Mike think be on doing this a few weeks?

Speaker 3 (37:44):
I don't, I don't know, I mean, or maybe it's
so wise it's just over our heads, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Maybe maybe so maybe you just want to hear it one.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Last Yeah, sure, maybe maybe there's a deeper meeting that's
going right past us.

Speaker 14 (38:00):
When making dinner for your children, it doesn't have to
be fancy, just edible and not on fire.

Speaker 2 (38:09):
That's pretty easy, I think. I don't think there's anything
deep to that.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
For a great stocking stuff for a CNR on FSR
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to win out. You could repeat it verbatim and while
we get the phone calls. Danny G's on the phones,
Rich have you seen his clip of mad Dog speaking
of old guys?

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Mad Dog Eh.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
Kevin doing Rich my guys and speaking of Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
One last thought I was thinking about you said the
last time we played was COVID.

Speaker 2 (38:39):
There's been so.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
Many like NFL player experiments that have coming gone since
Philip Rivers actually played, like Trey Lance on the Niners,
Zach Wilson like. There have been like storylines that have
started and finished since he played.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
So five years in the league is a long time.

Speaker 3 (38:57):
Well, I'll hold that thought because if we have time,
you know, maybe we'll talk about things that have happened
since then, Like there's a lot of time in between there.
So that's the last time they made the playoffs. Congrats on,
you know, staying in shape and taking that risk and
prolonging your Hall of Fame NFL Hall of Fame eligibility

(39:17):
because that resets. Now I mentioned mad Dog Russo. Now
keep in mind, we work with that guy for years.
We were fans of his growing up. So anything we say,
we say respectfully. There's a clip of him. I can't
see what court he's on, but he's either on a
professional basketball court or a college court. It's ASU. He's

(39:39):
a he's at an ASU. He's on the ASU basketball court,
and he's taken shots, you know, basketball shots.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
And that shot looked like ass.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
Yeah, he's taking that's a good one, man. That was
ass And Dan Orlovsky, his colleague at ESPN, actually po
to it and he said, man, this is awful. I
think that the quote was this is awful, and it's
Mad Dog doing his old guy dribble Bob cose He's
doing his best Bob Coosey dribble and then shot and

(40:13):
he looks so terrible.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
You know, Dan Patrick, he does one crossover, double dribbles
a couple of times, and then like throws the ball
up with one arm.

Speaker 4 (40:20):
Dude, he does that babbleverble.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
I believe there's a promo that runs here often on
Fox Sports ready about Dan Patrick and his crew being
the worst when it comes to, you know, living a
life of sports, but being the worst athletes, something along
those lines. I think mad Dog Russo takes the cake
because he has no form?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (40:45):
And again it is all in fun and you know
he's in his sixties, so who knows where it will
be again, So he starts by dribbling, crossover, three steps,
dribbles again, travels. Here's this is completely air ball falls
at the end, almost falls.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Like everything about it, it was funny.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Here's a question I have for you guys, is it
is it funny?

Speaker 1 (41:08):
And just like yo, mad Dog's a great sport which
he is, right of course he is.

Speaker 2 (41:12):
Or or would you not expose yourself like that?

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Meaning if you're a guy that talks about sports for
a living and you're known to be like that guy,
and you're you're on the radio or TV or podcast
criticizing athletes.

Speaker 3 (41:25):
It's one thing, rich, It's one thing to be a
good sport right, and props to mad Dog. But I
live by the words of marvelous Marvin Hagler, where it's
never let him see a sweat, and that applies in
several different ways in my mind. Meaning you know how
many women I disappointed in my life because they saw
me like try to dance because in their mind, I'm
this Latino guy. I must have some salt some moves,

(41:48):
and those salt some moves might translate in the bedroom.
And let's say I just went goofy a little bit
at a party or something, and they see how I
really move, man, I basically canceled myself out of their
mind because I exposed myself. So based on that, I'm
saying you don't always go for it. I don't think
you exposed yourself that way. You keep the fantasy alive.

(42:09):
If you know your skill set, and you know what
you're good at and what you're not good at, you
lean into what you're good at.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
Perfect I'm glad you said this because I have two
examples in our show's history where I, for one time
I thought our video guy Spot was spitefully sabotaging. Let's
hear it, we were at the MLB All Star festivities. Yeah,
and you and I were doing some VP in a
batting cage. I was ripping line drive, line drive, line drive.

(42:41):
One pitch, I lunged and missed it. He posts on
Instagram like two swings. One of them is the one
I missed. I'm like, did you do that on purpose?
And I know for a fact we didn't event once
a top golf and you admit you're not much of
a golfer.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
I'm not saying I'm a Tiger Woods, but you don't
want to.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
You don't want to post like your weakss golf swing,
do you know? No?

Speaker 3 (43:07):
I don't even want to let anyone know how bad
I am. So it's not that I'm the guy who
doesn't participate. I want to participate in things that I'm
good at, right. I want to magnify and lean into
the things that show me in a good light, not
things that make me look lame. And I think this
makes mad Dog look like a good sport, but it

(43:28):
also makes him look very lame because he's a guy
that built a career in sports.

Speaker 4 (43:33):
That's that's the.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Other side talking about it. He could say, I just
talk about him. I don't play him.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
I mean he pulls a hamstring, he travels, he throws
an airball, he almost falls. Like there's so many things
going on in this clip that's gone viral.

Speaker 6 (43:47):
Why not at least use both your hands in arms
to push the ball, like off your chest a football pass.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
I just watched it, Danny g look at look at
the last second.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Kavino's right. Thank God for mad Dog's sake, because he's
a good dude.

Speaker 10 (44:00):
He does it.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Looks say he almost pulls it Achilles at them.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Yeah, he looks. He got some tight hammies there. It
looks like a sniper shot him. No, it really does.
And knowing him, it's even funnier. And he is a
funny guy, so I get it. Uh, and clearly not
taking himself too serious in this moment, but or maybe
when you get older, richly he stopped caring about how
you're perceived in that way.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
I really I don't care for the most part. But
our video guy, spot, do you remember what I'm talk about?
Because you got all snippy with me. I remember this.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It was at the All Star Game this past summer.
We were hanging with MLB. We had a great relationship
and still do with Major League Baseball. We went to
the fan fest and we did a little VIP tour.
Cavino and I took about fifty swings each. I probably
missed one ball and that was part of the clip
you posted and you were.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
Like, who curs.

Speaker 15 (44:45):
I mean, there was a lot of stuff to process,
but I sent it through AI to get like the
best shot, and.

Speaker 4 (44:51):
That's what it gave me back.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Yeah, I gave you the worst.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
I don't blame artificial intelligence on this one.

Speaker 2 (44:56):
But Sam, I'm not even joking. I'm not saying I'm uh,
you know, I'm no Petal.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
New Baltimore took here like one low light out of
forty nine highlights.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Yo, Sam, I'm in the cage ripping.

Speaker 6 (45:08):
There weren't that many.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
I was hilarious one I lunge one time it hit
like a little like a foul ball or missed it,
and spots like that's the one that makes our sizzle real.

Speaker 3 (45:17):
At So the question based on this fun viral video
of Chris Man dog russo are old Palin colleague who's
sixty six for the record and still bringing it?

Speaker 2 (45:27):
I posted it.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Yeah, do you go for it or do you not
expose yourself, because not exposing yourself times sometimes makes you
appear to be like a stick in the mud and
no fun.

Speaker 4 (45:37):
And I get that.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
I'm accused of that a lot too, But I'd rather
sit it out than give people ammunition to make fun
of me about you know, I.

Speaker 2 (45:43):
Have a question, Yeah, when you think of social media and.

Speaker 4 (45:46):
Then I'm disappointing myself at the same time, I know.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
The sentiment is that, hey, listen, don't take social media serious.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
It's all bs. In fact, what do you tell younger kids.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
You probably tell your teenage daughter, hey, melody, social media
is other pe highlight reel.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
It's not real life.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
They're only posting the good moments they're they're they're posting
the picture of you know them on date night where
they're looking all beautiful. They're not picturing them having a
fight with their boyfriend in pajamas.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
You know.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
You know, she says when I say that, she takes
her headphone out and says, would you say that?

Speaker 2 (46:16):
And I said, not, think you can go.

Speaker 1 (46:20):
And I bring that up because I wonder if there's
something authentic about throwing the real you out there. I
saw our buddy Rob Parker bowling, but isn't the real
you like things you lean into?

Speaker 2 (46:35):
But all right, Rob, right, Rob's a good friend of ours.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, Oh, I can't say I didn't notice that he
posted a video of him bowling and he got like
a six on It was like.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
I would post, I would want to post a strike
Steve Ache? Again? Am I thinking? Am I?

Speaker 8 (46:51):
Like?

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Am I carrying too much? Like you want to?

Speaker 6 (46:54):
Danny?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
Would you want to post you throwing a six?

Speaker 6 (46:57):
Of course not. But as you mentioned, and you can't
take yourself too seriously. But your story about your swing
and miss it reminds me of a famous Ben Maller story.
His listener still torture him over this. He had a
meet and greet in Minnesota and the venue he held
it at they had the axe throwing, and a listener
filmed him, and he swears it's the only miss he had.

(47:19):
This axe that Mallard throws bounces and ricochets all over
the place and almost kills a listener, And to this
day he's like, oh, I swear I was good at it.
That was the one bad throw. Mom, Look ma, look
look I just did it. No, I get it now
you're watching. I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
Denny How do you think I'm being serious because we're
pals with him, and I know it haunts him. We
worked at Series ExM for decades.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Right, how do you think Baba Booie feel about that?

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Feels that he's been a radio producer for thirty forty
years or Howard Stern maybe the most famous producer in
old school radio? Right that one of the things you
first think of is Baba booe Gary del Bote's first
pitch that sucked.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
A lifelong Mets guy too, baseball fan. He's a hardcore
baseball fan, you.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
Know, like fifty cent.

Speaker 1 (48:03):
Yeah, you might be thinking, oh, the documentary maker from
Netflix about did he?

Speaker 2 (48:08):
No, I'm thinking the guy that can throw first pitch. Yeah,
I don't want to be embarrassed like that.

Speaker 3 (48:14):
And again, like if it's act storring and I'm not
good at it and I never expected to be good
at it, I care a little less something that I
was once pretty decent at and now I stink at Nah,
I'll pass on that. And so your thoughts again, the
question is do you go for it or do you
never expose yourself in that way? But right now, Rich,
we got to see if we got a winner Okay, okay, cool.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
Let's get a winner, and then I want to tie
it into one other quick thought before we get to
midweek major.

Speaker 2 (48:39):
Who do we got Danny?

Speaker 6 (48:39):
All right? The first listener through is Craig in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Craig, what's up about?

Speaker 10 (48:45):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (48:45):
How are you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (48:47):
You want to repeat the words of wisdom or what?
Let's let's win a prize for the holidays.

Speaker 6 (48:51):
Sure, all right, Craig, let the music marinate whenever you're ready.

Speaker 14 (49:01):
Okay, So what I what exactly am I doing?

Speaker 2 (49:04):
So that's.

Speaker 10 (49:07):
I've never I've never played this.

Speaker 6 (49:09):
So it's like, it's okay, you just need to repeat
back what Big Mike's words wisdom or verbatim.

Speaker 10 (49:15):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
I don't think he's going to do.

Speaker 4 (49:17):
I think he's exposing himself.

Speaker 10 (49:20):
Yeah, this isn't going the way.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
I'm sorry, this isn't.

Speaker 10 (49:24):
Going the way I thought it was.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
That's why, Hey, you know, yeah, he just exposed himself.
He's a bonehead. He called up the radio and had
no idea what I then you wanted.

Speaker 11 (49:33):
To be like, Hey, Patrick Mahomes, you know, call back
on Tuesday Tuesday for Mahomes Trivia.

Speaker 4 (49:42):
Appreciate maybe the last one standing on Monday.

Speaker 6 (49:44):
Well, Craig, now that you know how the game goes,
try next Wednesday.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Yeah you were, Craig, Mike. Word for word, it's pretty simple.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Thank you for trying. John and Illinois up next. Thank
thank you, Craig.

Speaker 1 (49:59):
I'll gonna say give give Craig a big thank you
because you can't look bad at all.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Now, what's up? Go ahead, let's hear this.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
When making dinner for your children, it doesn't have to
be anything fancy, just edible and not on fire.

Speaker 2 (50:13):
What sorry? He stumbled it.

Speaker 10 (50:15):
He followed it.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Sounded so good.

Speaker 6 (50:19):
You were so confident.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
Yeah, sounded great. I love the delivery. But you heard
a word.

Speaker 6 (50:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:24):
Sorry, sorry man? Who else do we got?

Speaker 3 (50:26):
Danny g eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox Verbatim
to win the CNR NERF Turbo Grip Football.

Speaker 6 (50:34):
All right, up? Third is Jim and Boise.

Speaker 4 (50:38):
Jim, come on hey.

Speaker 8 (50:42):
When you're cooking?

Speaker 4 (50:43):
No, my goodness, isn't that hard?

Speaker 6 (50:48):
And we played it twice? Should we should we define
what verbata means?

Speaker 4 (50:52):
Verbata means word for word?

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Oh yeah, there you go?

Speaker 10 (50:55):
All right?

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Is this the last time we have five chances?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Right?

Speaker 6 (50:57):
All right?

Speaker 3 (50:58):
One more let's go another one on four Covino and
Rich Mike's Wednesday Words of Wisdom for a prize. Hey,
we're just trying to get back to to you for.

Speaker 6 (51:08):
The holidays, all right. Rick in Kansas is up next.

Speaker 4 (51:10):
Hey, Rick and Kansas, let it breathe and let's go.

Speaker 12 (51:15):
We're making dinner for your kids.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
Man, the controversy, let's just strike out here.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
The plot thickens because this is the last and final
round for a prize.

Speaker 6 (51:26):
Yeah, we'll have to do that on the other side.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
All right, we'll do it on the other side. Who
could repeat it verbatim? For a stocking stuffer the coveted
brand new Nerve football.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
We'll get to it next.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
Plus we'll continue with go for It or Don't expose
yourself and Midweek Major. Rich, we got to get to
midwek Major. Now we're in the middle of playing Mike's
Wednesday Words of Wisdom. We have one last shot at
getting it right, repeating his words of wisdom verbatim.

Speaker 2 (51:55):
Who do we got?

Speaker 6 (51:55):
D MG Fifth and final try Gary and Idaho.

Speaker 8 (52:00):
Let's go Gary, all right, when making dinner for your children,
it doesn't have to be fancy, just edible and not
on fire.

Speaker 4 (52:12):
Yeah, that's aware, So Ma, that's a you're doing it.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
Congrats Moling.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
That's a holiday prize stocking stuffer for all the coveted
Turbo Grip cn R and FSR Nerve Football, Danny G.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
You'll be sending one out stay on hold. Congrats man.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Thanks Gary, And I also want to I also want
to give people on the live chat Rich on our
YouTube live chat Covino and Rich FSR join the fun
and watch what you hear. They got it right too,
But you gotta call in to play this game. But
props to you, Cove.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
We mentioned Gary Baba Booie Dell about that, and that
guy's name was Gary.

Speaker 4 (52:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (52:48):
I always had a fun fact that I love dropping
is that we had Rick Springfield on our show once.

Speaker 2 (52:53):
The legend Rick Springfield.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Yeah, and he said the name of the song was
Gary's Girl.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
But he thought in the eighties.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Gary wasn't like the coolest name, so he's like, he
just didn't changed it to Jesse, so it was actually
Gary's Girl. But he's like, Gary didn't seem like a
cool eighties name.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Well, that guy seemed pretty cool to me. He's the
big winner. He's the cool guy.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
Today.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Congrats. That is a great fun fact Rich. But now
it's time.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
I wish it I had Gary's girl.

Speaker 3 (53:18):
Yeah, not the same ring. Now it's time for mid
Week Major.

Speaker 13 (53:24):
Yeah, Coveno and Rich get you over the middle of
the week.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
When mid Week Major Major, Oh, I love that.

Speaker 13 (53:33):
We throw sports and pop culture headlines and topics at
the fellas and it's like the kids.

Speaker 8 (53:39):
Say, that's summit.

Speaker 2 (53:40):
We definitely see it our scoring mid Week Major.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
Oh Yeah, let's go faster to give Spotty eight full minutes.

Speaker 2 (53:50):
I don't want him.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
Before I hand things over to the number one and
only host of this segment. Usually we rolled a two
big red love dice, but since Covino sitting over there
in the main studio by himself, you're in the home.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Studio cove Ry deal advantage.

Speaker 3 (54:04):
Look what I'm holding, Oh, Ben Mallards, ass penny discontinued.

Speaker 6 (54:08):
Ass penny. I'm gonna flip it. You call it in the.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Air heads, heads, I win tails, Rich.

Speaker 6 (54:13):
Is loose it is head.

Speaker 4 (54:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:16):
That means Coveno gets first take. And now, ladies and gentlemen,
the most famous person besides Judy Bloom from Scotch Plains
New Jersey spotty boy.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Hi guys, spot how are you. Let's jump right in.
How's okay?

Speaker 6 (54:30):
I mean, it's on my list of stories, so we
might as well just tap into it.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
Have some quotes.

Speaker 15 (54:33):
But talking about Philip Rivers ready to get back on
the field, of course, not without some concern from his
family and his wife. Spoke with the media earlier today,
marking his first time on the NFL.

Speaker 4 (54:43):
Podium since twenty twenty one in his retirement.

Speaker 15 (54:46):
So, when asked about his retirement, said his wife is
quite anxious. My wife has been a big fan the
whole time I played, and she's nervous about the physical
aspect of it, as you would expect any wife to be.
He said, there's always been a risk in the two
hundred and fifty games. He whether you're twenty four in
the best shape, or you're forty four and not so sure,
anything can happen. That has never been a concern of mine.

(55:07):
He said he didn't walk away because he felt like
he was done. He just wanted to spend time with
his family and he did. He has what ten kids?
Ten kids.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
I believe he's a grandpa midweeker major.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
He stays in shape.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
I think everything about this story is interesting and major
for sure, because we're all gonna be tuned in to
see what he still has root for the old guy. Really,
he's the best choice. There's so many questions.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Forty four.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Again, that's a young man in life, but an old
guy on the field, especially when you haven't played in
five years. And he also said at the press conference, no, zoom,
let's go because the last time he was on the podium,
the last time he was doing press it was twenty twenty,
so everything was zoom and covid and miserable, and I

(55:54):
could see a part of him not wanting to go
out like that and you know, doing it live in
front of people again. So that's kind of cool. Very major.
I mean, I agree, it's major. I mean fall eyes
on Philip Rivers.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
In fact, I hate to say this against Dan byer Ah,
forget it, he's a Camino guy.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
Anyway, if they beat the Seahawks, what a.

Speaker 1 (56:13):
Cool upset special that would be their double digit underdogs.

Speaker 2 (56:16):
But if Philip Rivers takes the feel for the.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
Cults and they beat the hot Seahawks, that's just another
amazing story for the twenty twenty five NFL season and
interestingly enough, Like you said, it's it's been a minute.
We just saw Lebron James. Who's you know anyone forty plus.
Lebron has like arthritis and old guy injury, so it's
always a risk, especially at that age.

Speaker 2 (56:35):
But wishing them the best.

Speaker 15 (56:37):
All right over to the not so hot Chiefs. Travis
Kelsey didn't hold back sharing his feelings on the state
of the Cheeks Cheeks the cheeks on this they are
cheeks they are on this week's New Heights podcast episode.
So after they went six to seven this past we Sunday,
Kelsey said, it's I'm gonna have to censor myself here.
It's a scf ing feeling, especially dropping the effing ball

(57:02):
late in the game like we when we were on
our last effing chance to make something shake. Clearly he's emotional.
His brother of course, there to support him. But Travis
says he'll put his heart on the line for the
last four games of the season because his teammates and
the Chiefs Kingdom deserves it. He said, we're gonna keep
efing rolling. Oh and if you're a big Kelsey fan,
I know Rich Cavino, you're a big Jason Kelce f fan.

(57:25):
He's dropping a new holiday song this week with his company,
Garage beerd It's going to be released on the website
special Holiday Vinyl Collector's Edition with Travis Kelce reading a story.

Speaker 6 (57:36):
If you want to catch that midweek or major.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
I'd say the second half of the story with Jason
singing his mead who cares about that? That's so many
I'm not buying it, but props to him. He's very entertaining.
As far as Travis, I'd say that's major because I
see the writing on the wall and it says Rich
Davis is a weenie, and it says this is the
last Hurrah Kelsey and that's why I'm home. Said something

(58:00):
along the lines recently of like he just wants to
appreciate his moments with Kelsey while he's around, something along
those lines. Yea, and yeah, I'm glad that he cares,
but this is not how he wanted to go out.

Speaker 4 (58:12):
Unfortunately, that's just.

Speaker 2 (58:13):
How it is now. I think it's major because.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
You could argue this is America's team Cowboys versus the
Chiefs was a record breaking not only attendant's a viewership,
so there's still an interest for the Chiefs and the
Taylor Travis Kelsey thing is still a big story.

Speaker 2 (58:31):
They're gonna get married next year. The fact that they're
not gonna make the.

Speaker 1 (58:34):
Postseason, I'll be honest, it's an l for the NFL.
Luckily the NFL is a is you know king anyway,
but this is a big deal. And as far as
Kelsey's bro Jason singing, Kimino's full of it because what
are you gonna listen to?

Speaker 2 (58:47):
The waitresses? I forgot Cramberry's too. I love it.

Speaker 6 (58:50):
Come on, what do you listen to?

Speaker 4 (58:51):
That's my favorite Christmas jam?

Speaker 1 (58:53):
Yeah okay bing Crowsby Yeah love that.

Speaker 15 (59:00):
Giants Running Back Camp Scataboo shared a big social media
update today and then it's a he's back on his
feet walking. So he posted a clip on his social
earlier today of him walking into the team facility without
the assistance of a scooter or a boot. So it's
been about two months since his gruesome injury where his
foot was like spun around facing the wrong way. He said, quote,

(59:22):
God is good man. Just want to say thank you
to everybody that's supported. We're getting back. Let's go Midweek
or major Major. I love this, dude. No Scooter, what's
that a boot? I think this is great. I think
this is great news.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
You know, he's a young player, he caught a tough
break and we want to see him recover fully and
we want him to bring that energy back to the NFL.
That was a fun storyline for everybody, especially for Giants fans.
So it's good to see that he's recovering, that he's
already moving forward.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
That you said fully, Dan, I think it's major too.

Speaker 2 (59:57):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (59:58):
I love the camp scatter you yet Jackson dark connection.
I don't think he's officially like there yet until they
start headbutting again. But I think it's a great story
for the NFL. I think every year we talk about
how every story, every team has its own storyline. And
the Giants already have their setup for next year, bottom

(01:00:18):
feeder type of team.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
They got some good young talent, can they build around it.
The Giants are going to be very interesting offseason team.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
And I think when they start selecting, like who's gonna
be hard knocks, who's who?

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Would not want to see those guys.

Speaker 6 (01:00:31):
All right?

Speaker 15 (01:00:31):
Considering a career change, Well, you might want to be
considered being a water boy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
I know you do a great so you're gonna start
telling me about skate USA dot com or something.

Speaker 15 (01:00:41):
Sorry, I know you do a great water boy impression. Well,
new reports have been revealed that show the current average
salary for a water boy, and some fans are stun
It fluctuates depending on the team, but the average is
fifty to sixty thousand dollars a year. So they tend
to be paid less during the offseason and don't get
paid during preseason. But most water boys do. You have
a background in athletics.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
And our quality quality.

Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
Are officially classed as being part of the team's training staff.
They also are expected to sign a non compete which
restricts them from jumping from team to team, so they
take it very seriously and it's more than just carrying
a bottle of water. They tape up guys, provide treatment
during the week before and after games, and it's more
of an apprenticeship as part of the training staff to

(01:01:25):
learn the craft.

Speaker 4 (01:01:25):
So midweek or major this is mid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
We're talking water boys. In related news, wedding singers also.

Speaker 3 (01:01:31):
Make fifty Bobby Bouchet and Robbie Hart both make about
fifty to sixty k a year.

Speaker 4 (01:01:38):
I think it's cool, but it's not that major. It's
kind of mid.

Speaker 2 (01:01:42):
I think it's I think it's major. And I'll tell
you what, I never knew that water boys had not competes.

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
You can't give water to anyone else, you hear me,
You can't give anyone else water. But I do think
it's interesting because we forget that ball boys or ball girls.
Water boys we think that's like a silly position.

Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
But they are part of the staff, of part of
the training. You know, it's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:02:03):
Rich As a guy in radio, I can tell you
straight up, I don't care. I was working in the
late nineteen hundreds driving radio station vans, but my full
time salary was twenty four.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Thousand a year.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
So to see what water boys are getting paid sixty
thousand a year to be surrounded by really cool people
and living the dream sort of for a young person,
it's not too shabby.

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Yeah, I mean cool. Don't pay the bills though.

Speaker 6 (01:02:27):
It's a good entry point.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
No, but it's it's it's somewhere, it's almost And if
that's your entry.

Speaker 1 (01:02:31):
Point to being part of the training staff and like
the head trainer or something.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
That's yeah, I feel that's that's cool.

Speaker 14 (01:02:37):
Good, All right, thanks.

Speaker 4 (01:02:38):
Guys, Thank you spun.

Speaker 3 (01:02:42):
Who else could you really see returning to the big leagues,
to the NFL, to professional sports? Because one answer comes
to mind, and it's not a player, it's a coach.
And there's a lot of buzz that John Gruden might
be that guy. Is he the number one answer?

Speaker 6 (01:02:58):
You might be at least in Rumorville.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Yeah, in Rumorville he might be.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
But hey, if you have any answers, hit us up
at Covino and Rich and think about it and maybe
we'll talk about it tomorrow. There's a lot of rumors
about your boy, dany g.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
The ship has sailed on a few of them.

Speaker 1 (01:03:13):
But I remember, for a minute, don't you feel like
every off season you would see Bartolo Cologne.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Oh yeah, he's long.

Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
No matter how big he was, the throw he just
throws strikes. So I feel like there was a time
where I'm like, could he come back again?

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Bartolo's one?

Speaker 1 (01:03:27):
I said Gronk At one point, I was like, maybe
Gronky comes out. There are guys like t O or
Ocho Cinco where I always thought that maybe a team
would would take a chance, but they never did that.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
There are guys that threw it out there.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Those those are older examples because I think that windows closed.
So who are the other ones that are still around?

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Of like, maybe didn't Leonard Fournette this year be like yo,
I want I want back in and everyone's like, oh,
we're good, Rich.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
How about one connected to John Gruden, who did the
Colts contact before they went and talked with Philip Rivers.
Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Oh, you know Derek Carr there saying that maybe he's
a he's a mentor, like one year quarterback for whoever
the Raiders draft, right.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Yeah, and he's showing promise and broadcasting too though. So
there's a lot of rumors about Cruden, Giants, Raiders, Brown Steelers.
You know what, We'll talk more about it tomorrow. Think
about it in the meantime, Rich, Sorry about your Mets buddy.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
All right, Well, hey, have a good one.

Speaker 4 (01:04:22):
Arima there you baby, See you in the Promised Land.
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by Audiochuck Media Company.

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz

The Brothers Ortiz is the story of two brothers–both successful, but in very different ways. Gabe Ortiz becomes a third-highest ranking officer in all of Texas while his younger brother Larry climbs the ranks in Puro Tango Blast, a notorious Texas Prison gang. Gabe doesn’t know all the details of his brother’s nefarious dealings, and he’s made a point not to ask, to protect their relationship. But when Larry is murdered during a home invasion in a rented beach house, Gabe has no choice but to look into what happened that night. To solve Larry’s murder, Gabe, and the whole Ortiz family, must ask each other tough questions.

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